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Aug. 18, 2021 - The Unexplained - Howard Hughes
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Edition 567 - Linda Moulton Howe
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Across the UK, across continental North America and around the world on the internet, by webcast and by podcast, my name is Howard Hughes and this is The Unexplained.
Hope you're feeling okay.
I'm recording this at the back end of a day when it's been sunny and warm and I actually had time to go for a little cycle.
So I'm here in my t-shirt and my shorts still.
It's been kind of nice.
But, you know, back to business.
Guest on this edition, an update from Linda Moulton Howe, of course, stalwart of the Ark Bell show years ago and friend of mine for 20 years or more.
So Linda Moulton Howe from EarthFiles.com will be here.
We'll be talking about various things, including our position in the cosmos and whether we are alone or not.
I think you might have an inkling where that one's going to go.
I also want to do some shout-outs on this edition.
Thank you very much to Adam at Creative Hotspot for his work on getting the shows out.
Thanks, Adam.
And Haley for booking the guests.
Thank you, Haley.
And to you for being part of this.
If you sent me an email recently that requires a reply and you haven't had one, please remind me about that.
I do see and read and take on board every email that comes in.
And thank you for that.
If you want to email me, go to the website, theunexplained.tv.
Follow the link from there.
A few people to say hello to before we get to Albuquerque and talk with Linda.
Listener in Bursa, Turkey.
I'm really sorry on my notes here, I've lost your name, but you know who you are.
Says that I've listened to every one of your programs, some of them more than once.
Thank you so much for that.
Nick in North Allerton, a retired doctor.
Nick, nice to hear from you.
Thank you.
Nice email.
Paul Williams, thank you.
Andrew in Bristol, good to hear from you.
Jen in Cardiff, nice email.
Thank you, Jen.
Wants to hear more from Dr. Stephen Greer.
He has been on recently, but I'm sure he'll be on again.
Fernando, a Portuguese man residing in the US.
Thank you for emailing.
Nice to hear from you.
Margie or Margie in Germany.
Good to hear from you.
Stuart asks, did I ever guest host on Art Bell's show?
Maybe in another lifetime.
But sadly, no, I never actually did.
I nearly got to work with him, but that's a different thing.
That was towards the end of his life, and he is still sorely missed, Stuart, as we know.
Keith in Braintree, Essex, good to hear from you.
Ian in Run Corn.
Kevin enjoyed Barry de Gregorio.
I certainly find that an interesting and, and what's the word I'm looking for?
Nurturing conversation, if that's the word.
And Charlene in Oshawa in Canada.
I know I probably said that wrong.
And also Shirley.
Charlene and Shirley.
I don't know whether you know each other, but in the same place, got in touch.
Always good to hear from you.
Now, this comes from Mo.
A lot of people, I told the story about how when I was a kid and I'd been to the fun fair in Southport with my grandmother, I think I was 11, and I saw a cloven-hoofed man walking along towards the train station wearing an overcoat.
And I seem to remember a sort of goat face too.
And my grandmother said, don't look.
And of course I did.
So Mo got in touch about this.
A number of people have got in touch about this.
And thank you if you have.
But Mo says this, and I'm going to read his email as it appears.
Been listening for quite a few years, intrigued when you mentioned the hoof stranger.
When I was about 10, growing up in Dunganon, Northern Ireland, my grandmother, who lived with us, told me this story sitting around the fireplace on a blustery winter night.
The story goes that she asked her grandfather how a strange impression was made in the hearth.
He told her the following story.
He lived in a very rural area of Ireland, heard a knock at the door one night.
He was surprised, given the distance between neighbours living off the beaten path, and the fact that it was raining outside, that somebody would be knocking on the door late in the evening.
He opened the door to find a cloaked stranger standing before him.
He had a cane and wore a hat that hid his eyes.
The stranger asked to be let in to dry off.
Being courteous, he let him in.
The man walked by him and sat in the chair next to the fire.
He offered the stranger a cup of tea and hung the kettle over the fire.
Back when they did that sort of thing, I remember that.
As he glanced down after putting the kettle over the fire, he thought it strange that no shoes protruded from under the cloak.
They chatted a few, and when the water had boiled, he got up and walked over to the cabinet to get some cups.
There was a mirror over the cabinet, and as he looked at the stranger in the mirror to continue his conversation, he was shocked to see the man didn't have shoes, but had hoofs on his feet.
He froze.
Instead of cups, he reached for a small bottle of holy water that he kept in the house.
He pulled the stopper off and immediately turned to throw it at the stranger.
The stranger pulled his cloak up to cover his face and leapt into the fire.
The last thing he saw was one hoof on the hearth, and the man turned into a fireball and vaporized up the chimney.
To this day, supposedly the imprint of a hoof can be seen in the stone hearth.
Never heard anybody mention a hoof stranger in 40 years.
Strange world, says Mo.
Mo, thank you for sharing that, and if you've shared a story like that, I've had a few of them.
Thank you so much.
Interesting, after all of these decades of my life, I find that I'm not alone in having experienced that.
And I'm certain, as clearly as the day that it happened, of what I saw.
It just goes to show.
Maybe it was preparation for doing the unexplained.
Who knows?
Right, let's get to Albuquerque, New Mexico then.
Linda Moulton Howe, investigative reporter, founder of EarthFiles.com is on.
One of Art Bell's most regular and most respected guests.
Linda Moulton Howe, thank you very much for coming back on my show.
Oh, thank you, Howard.
I think it's important that we keep in connection at a time where on my mind and everyone I know is prayers for this whole world against COVID and all the variants.
And, you know, I tend not to talk about COVID on this show because it polarizes people terribly.
And I start getting emails from people with every kind of perspective on this.
And, you know, I would rather do a show that keeps us together than a show that divides us, I think.
But just on the COVID subject, I think the world's experience of it, and this is all I'm going to say, is very, very different at the moment.
I'm seeing that there's a resurgence in Australia.
Here in the United Kingdom, we had our so-called Freedom Day, and when I go out, I've been out cycling today in the sunshine.
You know, a lot of people are just kind of behaving as if the last 18 months or so have been erased.
It's almost as if some kind of veil or curtain has been lifted from people.
And I have to say, you know, I hope it stays that way because I don't think that people could stand going through that anymore.
Howard, here in the United States, it's as bad or worse than it's ever been with the whole new layer of young people.
The news this morning was filled all over the United States about how there are no intensive care units for people 12 and under, and that is the biggest growing population, where in the beginning, it appeared that the children were somehow more immune from the horrible COVID.
Now, as we are in August and we're supposed to have kids getting ready to go to school, now the peak is there, making it all the more horrible.
Well, I don't know where this is going to go, Linda.
I know that in the United Kingdom, the appetite for more lockdowns is pretty much zero now.
I don't think people could take it.
But it is interesting to me.
I'm trying to pick my words carefully here.
I had to go, I lost my phone a week ago, so I had to get on a train and go into a part of London to try to get myself another phone.
And I was interested for the first time to see a near-packed train.
And that was an experience that really unnerved me, you know, to see people all around me like it used to be.
I'd forgotten what that was like.
I remember March 2020 going to work on a Sunday night on an absolutely empty train station.
And I went to the train station.
I treated myself to a cab ride to the train station on this particular night.
I was going to work from a station called Hampton Court, near Hampton Court Palace.
And I passed restaurants and cafes and bars and stuff.
And people were closing stuff down.
And it was like, it reminded me of, there was a movie years ago about a nuclear attack.
It was fiction, and it was based on a book called On the Beach.
I'm sure you know this movie.
Oh, yes.
And there was a lot of drama in that movie.
It was about a submarine crew who found themselves at sea when a nuclear attack happened, a nuclear alert.
And we saw scenes of all the cities deserted.
And it was like that.
So it was the weirdest, weirdest thing.
I think we have lived.
Whatever view people take of this, and I get the emails, we have lived through an extraordinary time that has changed all of us.
If you haven't had coronavirus, and I think that I had it at the very beginning, whatever it was, was not like any flu that I've ever had.
And it made me really ill for 10 days or so.
And, you know, I had a recuperation period after that.
But the experience of lockdown, being at home and all the rest of it is something that I now would not want to repeat.
For the first six months, I thought, hey, whoopee, I'm working by myself, paddling my own canoe, doing my own thing.
I can manage without other people.
But of course, in this world, you cannot completely be alone.
And I think it has its consequences.
And I think we will see those consequences.
I'm feeling it.
And I'm starting to emerge from my cocoon.
But I think we will see those consequences.
Just one story connected with coronavirus.
I think we can go here.
And I don't think this is going to polarize people.
I read, and this is based on a Danish TV documentary that aired on Thursday.
And I'm quoting here, the idea that the coronavirus originated accidentally via Chinese laboratory workers has again surfaced in this documentary.
China has reacted furiously to suggestions that this pandemic was caused by malpractice involving one of its labs, but quotes, this is part of a probable assumption, according to the head of the World Health Organization Mission Investigating the Origins of the Pandemic.
Quotes, an employee of the lab gets infected while working in a bat cave collecting samples.
Such a scenario, while being a lab leak, would also fit our first hypothesis of direct transmission of the virus from bat to human.
This is a hypothesis that we consider to be likely.
This is according to Peter Den Embarek, or Embarek, telling the Danish public channel TV2.
I didn't read or tell that very well.
But just the idea that this is how it may have emerged with workers collecting bat samples is pretty frightening.
And it makes you wonder what we might have to face next if something like this occurs, doesn't it?
Well, let me share with you and your audience something important that I learned and reported in my EarthFiles YouTube channel back in the spring, probably March to April of 2020.
I was talking with medical people that I had interviewed on things like H1, N1, and other serious illnesses over the past, and was referenced to a Professor Coe, COOUEY, at the University of Pittsburgh in Pennsylvania.
And I took to him the question, is there any evidence?
Because he was a cellular biologist and they were working at the electron microscope level trying to see the coronavirus.
They didn't even have electron microscope images of it until in the spring.
And the dimension of the coronavirus was given as one 20,000th of a millimeter beyond our comprehension to imagine the smallness that could be doing so much devastation.
And when I asked him if he thought there was any hard evidence that he and other university professors were seeing about whether this could be engineered by humans, he said, I think extremely fairly.
He said, we can see arguments on both sides, but he said, this is what the consensus seems to be.
the very serious lab, the bio weapon for lab in Wuhan, had by its own definition always sent people out to the bat caves in this area where the horseshoe bat and the pangolin are cohabiting together to gather on purpose for medical research,
the guano, the bat droppings, taking them back to the Biohazard 4 lab in Wuhan to study with the idea that if they found something that was in a medical alert, they might be able to divert over and over potential pandemics.
That was one of the reasons that that lab existed in Wuhan.
And Professor Kawi said, it is as likely that there were scientists guarded in the lab that were using the CRISPR gene by gene by gene analysis, and that you, when working with a CRISPR, you can end up changing the genetic code of what you're studying.
It's just part of playing with the CRISPR.
And he said they are supposed to have what we will say is trash handled at an extremely conservative level so that no matter what happened between CRISPR and a legitimate study of a gene sequence is not going to go into trash that would ever have any contact with the world outside of the biohazard lab.
And Professor Cooi said, it is possible that that is where the slip-up, the mistake, is that trash that should never have reached the outside world had CRISPR manipulated genes,
not because of some insidious goal on the part of the Chinese scientists for some government policy, but because they were trying to see what would happen if they did this, this, this in a gene sequence, looking for the potential of a pandemic.
And if that were true, if what Professor Coe told me in the spring of 2020 were true, then the greatest irony is that we are now in August of 2021, a year and a half later, and that there are now more discussions about the intent of China and genetic weaponizing than there were 18 months ago.
And of course, getting information is the hardest thing of all.
A team has already been in there.
And, you know, they didn't exactly get the most fulsome of cooperation by all reports.
So the truth of it is that we may never know the truth.
We may only be able to guess.
But the thing before we leave this, and, you know, I know that coronavirus polarizes people, and I know that I get emails about it, so I don't want to talk too much about it.
Like I say, I want this show to unite people, not divide it.
I think this is fascinating, and I think the level of speculation, the level of comment about this is becoming clearer and more informed.
And I think, I don't know what you think, Linda, we will certainly hear more of this.
This is not going to go away.
Oh, Howard, I talked with a doctor just a week ago who said people do not realize that behind Delta is coming Lambda and then is coming beta, that these are out of areas such as Brazil and South Africa.
And if we had this kind of devastation with Delta, a variant of COVID-19 that is like COVID-19 on steroids, Delta is a whole different kettle of fish than where we started.
And they are, the medical community is extremely concerned privately about Lambda and beta coming next.
I don't think we're out of the woods for another year or two.
Well, I'm praying that we are heading in the right direction.
And I'm praying that you're wrong about that because I really seriously wonder whether people could stand any more of what we certainly want.
And look, some countries like India have had terrible things to go through.
But the experience on a human level of being locked away, of not being able to conduct your life in the way that you did, of just losing a section of your life, which I have, and I'm starting to realize in my tiny little life, you know, working here by myself, the terrible, terrible consequences of it.
So, you know, we need to watch this.
But I just thought I would reflect that.
And that is all really that I would like to say about this.
But interesting that you've been doing work on this, Linda.
I have since the very beginning.
Medical reporting has been one of the longest parts of my career, which is how I got into animal mutilations in the first place.
But I wanted to just say one more thing, if I could.
COVID-19 and all the subsequent variants, they are so serious, they are so lethal, that if we do not have people on this planet reporting the truth, then the entire world population becomes more and more vulnerable.
Masks should never have been weaponized.
Never.
Getting vaccines should never have been weaponized.
Okay, well, I think what we've just discussed about the origins of what we've been through, I think is hugely interesting and quite frightening.
And I think as a human race, we deserve to know more.
I think we can absolutely agree on that.
Just very quickly, these last few months, we haven't spoken.
I've just looked at my records.
I don't think we've spoken for about eight months now.
So that's the thick end of a year, certainly more than half a year, Linda.
You know, how has your life continued?
You know, How have you been?
Have you been able to do your work?
I've never been busier in my entire existence.
When you don't have to commute, when you don't have to get on two or three airplanes every month, 2019, I have 46 airline tickets in the year 2019.
Yeah.
And when you have to fly a lot of places and you have to be doing all kinds of conference presentations, it eats up or has eaten up a big part of life in the past.
And when it came to survival and staying in, what it did was focus my attention on many things that I had put in piles that I needed to read and study.
And so what I have found is more and more discovery from myself, more and more discovery in the people willing to talk with me on the record with or without their real names.
And that has been what I have been sharing every week on Wednesday nights in my EarthFiles YouTube channel, which is devoted as much as I can to hard facts and evidence concerning the existence of other intelligences in this universe, the fact that Earth is like a hotel, and that more and more government and military people are reinforcing others who have talked to me and I have shared.
I think this is one of the subjects that you're going to hear more and more about.
Earth is like a hotel.
It has been for at least 270 million years.
And the hotel metaphor is this.
Homo sapiens, sapien, and evolving primates going back to Homo erectus in Africa have been surface creatures.
But before 2 million years ago and currently, there have been many other intelligences from other parts of this galaxy and perhaps other galaxies that look for planets that they can use as laboratories, experimental, creating, mining.
And this has a reputation, this planet Earth, for being a place where genetic, we'll say genetic manipulation, the big oceans can be tested, but that there is another aspect of Earth that humans have never really understood.
We live on the surface.
We think that's the way all life lives if there is other life.
The truth is, many, many, many species, because of the type of solar system they are in or the sun that they have, they must be underground.
And that in this planet, we have just been hearing reports just in the last few months about discoveries of new, huge, cavernous places inside the top, let's say, within 75 miles or down, big caverns.
Well, I have been hearing for probably a decade for the first time about the fact, and that was from a physicist who had worked at Area 51, and he said, what we began to realize is that there have been non-humans based inside of this planet,
based beneath the oceans and the seas as well, meaning you can go down through land and go into one of these huge cavernous places made apparently from some kind of gas chemistry with the internal aspects of this planet.
But that there are reports that if you went down below the oceans, which cover two-thirds of this planet, and you go to the bottom, you don't stop on the bottom, you keep going through the bottom basins of the oceans,
you come also in to other huge cavernous spaces that other life forms have been using on this planet for at least 270 million years.
And when I share this with you now, I do with much more sense that what I'm telling you, even though I can't show you, I don't have photographs, I can't get the people who know about this firsthand.
It isn't because they've been down physically themselves.
It's because we now are more sophisticated with all of our penetrations in the ice of Antarctica, through the oceans.
What we can learn about our own planet now has leapt in huge exponential degrees in just the last decade or so.
And that it ties directly to information that has come to me in the past from people who have served in the military or intel who say this planet has been a base and has been a home, has been a laboratory to other intelligences.
And in the beginning, people said for eons.
It was a man who retired from the Defense Intelligence Agency in December of 1999, who worked for a month to set up a meeting with me through a man who worked in the World Bank.
They probably were both government intel colleagues working together with saying and showing legitimate other work, but I do suspect they worked together.
And they did a meeting in which the retiring Defense Intelligence Agency analyst said, I have read your books.
I have followed your work.
Quote unquote, you have some of the most accurate information of anybody who is reporting on the planet.
And I wanted you to understand some of the context that I know is true.
And that's when he gave me a geophysical, I guess you would say, lesson, like in school, about this planet, how this planet relates and fits into 10 light years.
If you drew a circle that went around our sun and you went out in all directions for 10 light years, how many planets would have other life if you go out 20 light years, if you go out 50 light years?
Our government already knows so much about other life forms that it is astounding to me that we in 2021 went through a 180-day countdown requested by Congress for the Director of National Intelligence and the Secretary of Defense to collaborate in a report about unidentified aerial phenomena,
which is the same as the last 70-some years of the word or the words unidentified flying objects or UFOs.
They're one in the same.
And that I thought finally, somebody with deep intelligence is now, they have put this together.
So everybody is in anticipation, in anticipation, positive anticipation of hearing the government finally announce we're not alone in this universe.
Sorry, we haven't told you since World War II, but we wanted to make sure that we understood what is the bell-shaped curve of friendlies, neutrals, and hostiles, and we can stand in front of you and whatever else they wanted to say.
I felt this was the most positive possible approach.
The world is waiting for truth.
The truth, the expectation that we're not alone in the universe, is what the vast majority of all people on the planet think privately.
We know that from polls.
Well, indeed, yes, I was going to say they tell, and there's an opinion poll reported on your own website, earthfiles.com, that says exactly that.
This is the unclassified report.
What do you think?
What are you hearing might be in the classified report?
What is it that we haven't been told?
I got a personal note from somebody in Washington, D.C., who has helped me.
This was the quote.
The classified report is very disappointing, quote, close quote.
Now, disappointing could be that they really did expect that finally that declarative sentence, we are not alone in this universe.
We are in a universe that has at least 3 trillion galaxies by the last computation of computers.
We are in one galaxy of 3 trillion.
Everywhere we look in all directions, the same types of elements, the same type of properties, the same type of physics.
And for us to think that this would be the only planet that had life, that it had life that evolved into intelligence is more unreasonable than just about anything that could be posited.
And then you add to that that the people who are riding this difficult horse out of Washington, D.C., if they know what the military and Intel people have told me over the last 42 years,
not only do we know at official levels that we're not alone in this universe, we do know we have policies, we have scientists in collaboration with some of the non-humans who have helped us with technological evolution.
So why bother to compile a report?
Well, the report, remember that 180-day report, seemed to be set in motion because of the Navy videos.
If you go back to December 16, 2017, the New York Times above the fold on the front page, the most important place in the New York Times, there is a large shot of what came to be known to the world as the Tic Tac on the FLIR video that was being shot by a Navy pilot.
And that this was not known to human technologies was the bottom line of that report.
Since December 16th, 2017, New York Times, Washington Post also had a report that day, and Politico.
And those three credible news stories for the very first time, all at the same time, were reporting about the Navy radar, Navy FLIR of objects that pilots said it's the Navy pilots who reported.
I clocked this thing at 12,000 miles an hour and it did 90 degree turns.
That's not possible for humans.
And indeed, we have this interim report now.
And we've had people like veteran Senator Harry Reid, who is retired now, but is still very interested in these things, essentially saying that that interim report is not good enough.
And we need to do this in more detail.
And we need to be, well, maybe leveling with the people a little more.
You mentioned Politico.
There was a report on Politico, I think today, last couple of days.
Quotes, the Pentagon is considering giving the Space Force, remember Donald Trump's Space Force, a greater role in stepped-up effort to track.
Trump's Space Force.
That Space Force already existed long before he ever became president.
Okay, well, I read the reports and I bought them then.
Okay, the Space Force that existed beforehand quotes: The Pentagon is considering giving the Space Force a greater role in a stepped-up effort to track and investigate reports of UFOs, but the newest military branch isn't over the moon about the idea.
Space Force leaders are still struggling to rebrand an organization that's been lampooned since before its birth.
Now they're conflicted about becoming the military's go-to on what the Pentagon now calls unidentified aerial phenomena.
So Space Force apparently is being handed this hot potato.
They may not necessarily want it.
What do you make of that?
Howard, what you just described is called deflection.
Deflection.
The truth.
The Space Force has been in operation and has been involved with a collaboration with extraterrestrial biological entities probably for at least two decades or more.
How do you know that?
Because of people who have served and have talked to me and have actually shown me some proof.
Can you tell me anything about that proof?
I'm sorry to, here I am interrupting and just because it's such a crucial key point.
What sort of proof have they shown you?
I cannot discuss it.
You're going to have to accept that I have worked for a very long time and that my reports, as far as I'm concerned, have always been supported by evidence and the evolution of history.
And what I'm trying to share with you is we are in a time of theater because they are trying, the they are the people who know and have been working, having to do with other life forms in this universe for a very long time.
And for a period going back to World War II on, our government, England, Australia, New Zealand, and Canada, the allies of World War II, they discovered during World War II that there were technologies that were running rings literally around the jets,
for example, that were flying and that we or whoever was observing and reporting knew that it was something that humans had not made.
And the whole issue of extraterrestrial biological entities and advanced technologies became information that was known to people who had served in World War II and beyond.
Therefore, in the 50s, when Leonard Stringfield wrote that very important book, Situation Read, Leonard Stringfield invited me to his home when there was a conference in the Midwest in that area where he lived.
And he said, I want you to see with your own eyes some of the correspondence that I have not shared.
And I read letters typed and handwritten, just like I get, but it was to him because he focused on what did the U.S. Air Force know about UFOs and what were their policies.
And that day he looked eye to eye with me and he said, Linda, I served in the Air Force.
And I know for a fact there was a standing order in the 1950s for a short period of time for our pilots in the Air Force to shoot down UFOs.
And Linda, we lost so many pilots trying to carry that order out, and none of the families were ever told the truth.
That is a direct quote from Len Stringfield to me.
That's astonishing, Linda.
How do you think they've been able to keep that?
You know, look, in a democracy, you're going to laugh now, but in a democracy, I'm a great believer in the fact that, you know, covering up and wrongdoing and all the rest of it, those things can continue for a good long period, but eventually they come out.
If that's happened, if there have been dog fights or if pilots have lost their lives pursuing or challenging craft not of this earth since the 1950s, surely we'd have heard about that.
Non-disclosure agreements.
Non-disclosure agreements apply whether you're in the military, a corporation, intelligence.
You sign agreements.
I've been shown some of them.
Some of them say you give up your constitutional rights to a trial.
If you didn't know that, that's the reality.
Right.
So anybody who comes clean on stuff like this risks being thrown into the equivalent of Guantanamo Bay and forgotten about.
It's the highest priority subject in the United States government.
And Magic, M-A-J-A-I-C, that has that particular classification that Dr. Robert Wood and his son, Ryan, they did a really important contribution back in the 70s when they got the 35 millimeter negative film.
It's a big long story, but they ended up with 35 millimeter negative film and that Dr. Wood, who was at the time working in aerospace and retired in the early 1990s,
at the time of the transition from working officially in aerospace at McDonnell Douglas and getting the 35 millimeter negative through Stanton Friedman and others in a UFO group that received this 35 millimeter film, Dr. Bob Wood, aerospace engineer for more than 30 years, he wanted to get the 35 millimeter printed.
And that's how we came to have what is called the SOM 1-01 Training manual about how to retrieve unidentified flying objects on crash sites and what to do with the extraterrestrial biological entities.
All of these are words in that document that on the front cover says stamped War Office, because it was at the time War Office before it became the Pentagon and the Department of Defense, April 1954.
Dr. Wood was able to track down at Kirtland Air Force Base in Albuquerque, the person who was a head of that military print shop at Kirtland Air Force Base in April of 1954,
who confirmed, yes, that he was at the printing press when the Psalm 101 classified MAGIC, M-A-J-I-C, as the highest classification and on the front was all the warnings about how this should never, ever, ever reach the public.
Well, the person who took the 35 millimeter shots of the cover, every page to the end, and got that film to people in a UFO organization who got it to Stanton Friedman, a physicist.
God rest his soul wherever he is now.
Stan was a great, great person.
Stan called up Dr. Bob Wood and asked him if he would be interested in following up.
And that's how we know about the whole magic Psalm 101 training manual that even has on one of the pages.
It says live extraterrestrial biological entities will be taken to Barking Sands, an island in the Hawaii chain that we used during World War II.
It has breakdowns on where certain dead bodies will be taken, where live technology is to be taken.
It's all in the Psalm 101 training manual that was leaked to the 35 millimeter film and got to us as groups of investigators in the early 1990s.
I've reported about it to, it seems, so much.
Others have too.
But when you are on a planet where the political systems, the geopolitical structures are basically organized against a truth that they don't want the planet to know for reasons that are not clear,
then you end up with what we've had for the last decade since the close of World War II, when the Allies and certainly Germany, Hitler had even told people that he was allied with blonde, blue-eyed beings from the planet Aldebaran or Aldebaran, however you want to pronounce it.
Well, of course, you know, to be balanced about it, Hitler said many things to many people.
Many things were written about Hitler.
But what we do know is that Werner von Braun, Hitler's rocket man, who of course became the mastermind of Apollo, is said to have had exotic material from Roswell in his office.
So, you know, but all right, last point on this, and then I want to talk about some other stuff that is kind of hot topic.
Why do you think then we've had all of this hoo-ha, as we say in the U.S., all of this kerfuffle about this interim report, and there's going to be another report, and Politico reporting this week that the Pentagon is giving the Space Force responsibility for looking into the UFO question, and NASA's looking into the UFO question.
I don't understand, if they wanted it kept secret, why would they place so much spotlight onto the subject this year?
Why would they do that?
Because there is something ticking in this galaxy.
There is a timetable and that it relates to, I'll go back to the hotel metaphor.
If we're on a planet on the surface, largely, and the rest of the planet going down beneath our feet and down beneath the oceans is occupied and has been for 270 million years by others that use this planet as a laboratory,
then maybe what's happening is it has finally reached some kind of a critical point where if the governments of this planet do not get out to the public the reality of our true existence in relationship to an enormous and complex universe in which there is consciousness from one end to the other, that it is filled with consciousness.
And if something should decide that it wants to take the hotel for itself, then it would be abusive to the nth degree to have not told the surface population about the truth.
I hear what you say, but we have this drama going on, don't we?
What are they going to tell us in the end?
Are they going to tell us nothing to see here or we need to do more investigations for another 20 years?
What are we going to be hearing, do you think?
I don't think that there is time for them to continue deflection.
Right.
Because there is a natural momentum, you think, to events that will overtake them in the end.
And so are they trying to, assuming this is some kind of conspiracy, are the powers who know about this trying to news manage this, trying to event manage this.
Deflection is management of media.
Deflection is management of social populations.
So is something going to happen that we will eventually be warned about and told about in a way that the powers that be, who are not being straight up with us, you know, that they have a plan to reveal this in their own sweet time?
Is that the way this is?
Or are we not going to know about it until one day we wake up and something's happened?
Remember when, what was it now?
It was just a few months ago that Chaim Eshad, who was the father and grandfather of the missile program and satellite program in Israel, and he released a memoir.
And in the memoir, the entire epilogue that is entitled, his epilogue is entitled, We Are Not Alone.
And I did a lot of reporting about this at my EarthFiles YouTube channel and earthfiles.com, my news website.
And I was working through two people who grew up in Tel Aviv, Israel, where Haimeshid is.
And they spoke both English because of educations.
And they helped me do the translation from the original Hebrew, in which it came out only in Hebrew.
And what it boiled down to is in his epilogue, he put photographs, which are at myearthfiles.com.
You can go and see at my EarthFiles.
If you go to the YouTube channel and you type in Heim, H-A-I-M, Eshed, E-S-H-E-D.
If you type that in, it will take you to the EarthFiles YouTube channel broadcast that I did with this, as well as in my EarthFiles.com news.
And one of the questions that was posed in the book itself by Chaim Eshad, or you would say an answer, his answer to the question, why have we not been told the truth?
Why haven't the extraterrestrial biological entities that our government has known about since World War II been announced to the general population?
And Haim Eshad says in the epilogue, the timeline is not ours.
It is theirs.
And this man, we have to just remind my listener, was the former space security chief of Israel.
Yes.
And he has a tremendous sophistication.
And I think that it was smart of him to put all of the UFO extraterrestrial.
We're not alone in this epilogue at the end.
But you would be amazed how many people communicate and say, somebody showed me an English translation and there's nothing.
They're only looking at the front of the book.
I and others have announced it is only the epilogue, which goes on for many pages.
And yet that shows, Howard, how people don't absorb what is being reported.
It is the epilogue of Chaim Eshid's book.
And in that was one of the most surprising things because of the two men that I was working with for the English translation from the original Hebrew.
You couldn't find when the first announcements of the book were made earlier this year, you could not find anything that was out in any organization, not even in the Hebrew newspapers in Israel, that showed the images that Chaim Eshad put in his epilogue.
Why are they important?
He put at least three really clear, and they look like structures.
And the plate ID is, this is Mars, this is where these are.
And Chaim Eshad in his epilogue is trying to have the reader look at these photos.
When you look at one, it looks like somebody had taken and made some kind of molded bricks and made a cone rising several feet in the surface.
And then there were others that he is convinced are symbols on the destruction of some structure that was there.
And it's not like Chaim Eshad takes your hand and says, look at this, look at this, this is this, this is this.
He puts them, puts the photos in his epilogue as if you get this far, consider these structures on Mars.
To be continued, as they say, Linda.
This conversation is something else that's not going to go away.
And this is a hell of an interesting year.
We live in interesting times.
You first came to prominence for most people with your work on animal mutilations and who might be doing these strange mutilations, which there is no doubt are happening around the world.
They're happening in parts of England, in Yorkshire and places like that.
Animals, sometimes deer, sometimes sheep, sometimes goats stripped in a surgical way, with surgical precision, and their mouth parts removed in a surgical way, in a bloodless way, in a way that unless you had a highly sophisticated operating theater, you couldn't do in some field miles away from a town or city.
Now, this is happening all over the world.
I know that it's happening here, isolated incidents, but they get reported.
Last year we had, and you and I discussed it, a large incident in France, I think involving horses.
That may have been Spain.
Yeah, it was France, wasn't it?
Yeah.
And this year it was Oregon.
What is the latest on this?
What more do you know?
Well, Oregon has had bloodless, trackless animal mutilations since the late 1960s, repeating and cycles.
Every state in the United States, every province in Canada have had reported bloodless, trackless animal mutilations.
And some of the timelines go all the way back to around 1960 to 61.
The highest number of concentrated animal mutilations, at least in Canada and the United States, were between 1974 and 1984.
Why that specific decade?
I have never been able to find an answer.
There were many mutilations in various parts of the planet before 74 and after 84.
But there was this height, this big peak.
And Sheriff Tex Graves in Logan County in Northern Colorado, who was the first person in law enforcement that I went to do what's called a background interview.
I was director of special projects at the CBS station in Denver.
And my job has always been in medicine, science, environmental matters.
And that grew out of my getting a master's degree in communications at Stanford University and graduating in 1968 with a master's from Stanford and going into news immediately.
I worked at KNBC first as a street reporter.
Then they hired me to work on a documentary at KNBC.
And then I was asked to produce a live studio program and I was married at the time.
All of the work that I was doing was in science, medicine, and the environment.
And my husband went to Harvard to get an MBA.
And I was hired to do all of the medical programming for WCBB, the ABC affiliate in Boston.
From there, I was hired to be director of special projects in Denver, where my husband also took a Time Inc.
corporation job in the development of cable.
And so now we are at about 1976 is when I started working as director of special projects.
And my job was to do documentaries, contribute news, and to do live studio programs where I would bring in people like one show, I brought in a retired director of the Central Intelligence Agency to deal with matters that in the state of Colorado, it was a big issue.
And we would have the governor, I had the governor in a program, and we would take on issues.
So it's in that context, from graduating from Stanford in 1968 to getting to 1979, that I had done all this science, medicine, and environment and some things political, all this television work.
And as a manager in the station, as I was as director of special projects, I was in charge of the subjects.
That summer of 79, while I was working on another documentary, were headlines in the Rocky Mountain News and the Denver Post about more.
It said, more, the return of, again, bloodless, trackless animal mutilations.
Well, they really had never been on my radar of any real consequence.
So seeing the headlines in the newspapers of Denver as if this is something that has happened before, I wanted to get to the bottom of it.
And I remember thinking, maybe this is like the Dugway Sheep Proving Ground nerve gas issue that happened in the 60s when the government finally owned up to the fact that it had done experiments with a nerve gas in, I think it was Utah, in areas in the West, and animals, cattle, horses had died.
That is a real background historic event.
So in the summer of 1979, as director of special projects at the CBS station in Denver, when I saw those headlines, I thought, maybe it's the government again.
Well, that's why I went up to see Sheriff Tex Graves, who was retiring from the Logan County Sheriff's Office after 23 years as sheriff there.
He was highly respected.
And I spent a half a day at where he was, and he showed me Polaroids, 266 color Polaroids that he himself had taken of mutilations using a Polaroid.
And as you and everybody knows, you don't mess around with Polaroids.
You get in a Polaroid whatever is in front of you, and they are not subject to being able to be altered or messed with.
So seeing all of those color Polaroid photos, and I asked him if I could lay them out in a timeline on the floor, and there were so many with large gaping holes or round, perfectly circular holes.
No fluid.
You could not see any fluid on the ground.
There were no tracks.
That was one of the things that hit me first looking at the Polaroids.
I'm looking at animals lying on a right side or a left side, and they have these holes and these excisions, and there's no blood, there's no fluid.
But in the dry, dry face powder ground around many of them, there's no tracks, including no tracks of the animal.
And it was Sheriff Tex Graves who's showing me all of this.
At one point, he stopped and we looked at each other and he said, Linda, I want to save you some time.
The perpetrators of these bloodless, trackless animal mutilations are creatures from outer space, quote, unquote, emblazoned in my mind from what would have been September of 79 bombshell 40 odd years ago.
All these decades.
Yeah, and I felt like somebody had hit me with an electric wire in a garden.
I actually had some kind of an electric charge hurt reaction as his words came to me.
That's what I felt, not knowing, Howard, that from 79 to 2021, August 15th, that it would be, or today is the 14th,
that I would be the rest of my professional life would be trying to get to the facts and the truth, not only about animal mutilations, but everything else that began to unfold, that humans were being taken in beams of light, as ranchers saw the animals being taken out of their pasture in beams of light.
A lot of people don't realize that there were all kinds of eyewitness sightings to craft beams of light that could raise things in and out of pastures.
Deputies saw it, sheriffs saw it, and it was verboten.
Everybody was afraid to talk.
So many people, when I was doing, working on what became a strange harvest that received a regional Emmy as a documentary, people would say, look, it's okay for me to talk to you, but I'm not going to go in front of your camera.
And Sheriff Tex Graves, I wanted him to tell me on camera what he told me that day in his office, showing me his 266 color Polaroids.
I wanted him to stand up in front of my television camera that we wouldn't start filming for another two weeks because I was doing some kind of research to find out where I should go and who I should talk to first.
And Sheriff Tex Grave said, Linda, I want you to know the truth, but I'm not going to stand in front of your camera and then be ridiculed and criticized for the rest of my retirement.
So how come this is how unfair it all has been that people have tried to report the truth?
And then there is the, what will we call it, manipulated political global point of view that has been installed by power brokers.
You don't even think that we have other life in the universe.
You just concentrate that you're it on Earth.
As if this particular political point of view then gives the power brokers of Earth a much easier hand in controlling, guiding, deflecting this population.
And maybe finally, Howard, the real revolution is beginning to take place, that something sees the problem in having an entire civilization of 8 billion humans.
No one outside of the rarefied air of Pentagons and Ministry of Defenses know anything.
Well, I think there is a conversation that will be continuing.
We've discussed many of those things that you told me from 40 years ago before, but here we are in August 2021, as you say, these things are still happening.
And the perplexing thing about this is that we don't seem to be any further on.
People are still reporting, yes, the carcass was stripped in this way.
Yes, it was surgical.
There may have been reports of something being dropped onto a field or beamed up and then dropped or whatever it might be.
And no signs of access or exit from the location.
But 40 years on, we don't seem to be getting anywhere with this.
We just know that this is happening.
I think that my work in animal mutilation stands up and has stood up for the last 42 years.
I know that I have heard from certain people who have worked in Washington on both the analysis side and the military side, and they have told me your investigations of animal mutilations are one of the most solid facets of reporting about the extraterrestrial biological entity interaction with this planet that anyone has done.
I'm not trying to pat myself on any back.
It's extremely difficult.
It is extremely challenging to deal with subjects that the power brokers of the world don't want anybody to know.
My attitude is Homo sapiens sapien, even if we're in a hotel where for 270 million years there have been a multiplicity of different intelligences that have used, occupied, and been based on Earth to do whatever they wanted to do.
Homo sapien sapien deserves by the 21st century to be told we are a genetic creation of manipulation of genes in already evolving primates.
We need to be told about hybrids and hybridization.
We need to be told about which solar systems within 10 light years, 20 light years, 50 light years of this solar system already are involved with all kinds of interstellar operations that involve some classified people from this planet.
Can you imagine, Howard, that we, we, Elon Musk, that Elon Musk is preparing to live up to what he said was his timeline, that in 2024, he was going to launch to Mars with the goal of putting 1 million Homo sapiens sapiens from Earth in the underground lava tube base or bases on Mars by 2050,
2050.
There has to be a reason for why someone or ones want this to begin to happen now.
And I wanted to also share with you and your UK audience something that I keep pasted along with other things.
This was a June 25th, 2009 press release statement by UK Colonel Charles, well, it was American in the United States.
He was in the UK when he made this statement.
He is from the United States.
Colonel Charles I. Halt, retired, former deputy base commander at RAF Bentwaters in England in December 1980, a subject that I also have done much, much reporting with men who were there, who saw lights, who saw beams.
And Colonel Halt on June 25th, 2009 said, quote, his statement released to the public, I wish to make it perfectly clear that UFOs I saw were structured machines moving under intelligent control and were operating beyond the realm of anything I have ever seen before or since.
Sounds like Lou Elizondo describing UAPs, right?
I believe the objects I saw at close quarter were extraterrestrial in origin and that the security services of both the United States and England were and have been complicit in trying to subvert the significance of what occurred at Rendlesham by use of well-practiced methods of disinformation,
close quote.
And that is my definition of deflection.
Governments are very skilled at deflection, make the public look at the right hand with some glitter in it, while what is really happening is in the left hand, 180 degrees away.
And I've always thought that this statement by Colonel Halt was one that was most obscured and yet was the closest to the truth.
And it was about probably five or seven years after that that I was interviewing Lynn Buchanan.
He was a controlled remote viewer in Project Stargate that was working for the Defense Intelligence Agency in Washington, D.C. They were housed in a World War II building on the territory of the shiny black National Security Agency building in Fort Meade.
They were relegated to being obscure and nobody knowing that these men were trained as controlled remote viewers.
And Lynn Buchanan told me in this interview that one of the subjects that all of the remote viewers would later learn, because they don't talk with each other about their so-called tasking.
They're tasked to discover something on the earth, in the moon, out in the solar system, whatever it is, but nobody talks and nobody is to share information.
It was only later.
It's never revealed till the end, is it?
Yeah, that they all shared information later on after the Project Stargate was disbanded by the CIA, that they had all been tasked with the question, is there other consciousness in this universe?
And the answer was in spades, yes.
It is full of consciousness.
And it was Lynn Buchanan who said, and we all got the same kind of profile.
Linda, there are friendlies, but we might not be here if we didn't have a lot of friendlies.
There are a lot of neutrals, more neutrals than the friendlies, but the neutrals don't want to do anything to us.
That's why we call them neutrals.
And then there are the hostiles.
And Linda, the hostiles would like to annihilate the surface life of this earth, and they would like to have the planet.
And that was the first time that in my human mind, when Lynn Buchanan said those words to me in an interview that is still at earthfiles.com, and I've shared it also at my EarthFiles YouTube channel broadcast, that suddenly motives, motives began to come into my mind.
Gee, many Christmas.
And later it's added, if we're on a planet that is so extraordinary that a bunch of different intelligences want to use Earth as a laboratory and have done so for at least 270 million years, then this planet might be a little bit more unique than humans have ever been told or have understood.
And that others in this universe Might even fight each other for territorial claim on this planet.
And eventually, human power brokers wake up to that fact.
And now we're getting into the 21st century, where it may be that there are a lot of arguments coming about who is going to inhabit and control this hotel planet.
There was a lot of other stuff I was going to ask you about.
Sadly, we're out of time, and I just sat and listened because you never fail to interest me, Linda.
I don't know how you do it.
I don't know where you get the stamina from.
I don't know where you get the motivation from.
But I hope that continues for a good, long time.
Linda, thank you.
Me too, Howard.
Thank you.
And God bless you and all of your listeners.
May we be protected by the thought that dwells in the light.
Amen.
Thank you, Linda.
See ya.
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