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Feb. 23, 2021 - The Unexplained - Howard Hughes
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Edition 522 - Craig Campobasso

Award-winning Hollywood Casting Director Craig Campobasso has worked with them all - including Spielberg and David Lynch.... His whole life has been connected with UFO and alien phenomena....

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Across the UK, across continental North America and around the world on the internet, by webcast and by podcast, my name is Howard Hughes and this is the return of the unexplained.
Well, spring is coming by the looks of it.
Got a beam of sunshine coming through my apartment window at the moment, so not bad.
Hey, let's just hope that before very long we get our freedom from COVID-19 and coronavirus and can put it firmly in the rearview mirror.
That would be nice, wouldn't it?
Thank you very much for all of your emails.
I'm going to name-check a few people.
Then we get to the guest on this edition, Hollywood Casting Director Craig Campobasso.
A man who is remarkable, as you will hear.
Shout outs, Darren.
Thanks very much for the story, Darren, that you sent me.
Very moving, real-life story about a magpie, but behaving in a very odd way for reasons that you told me.
Thank you for sharing that with me, Darren.
Definitely unexplained.
Mike got in touch.
He wants to hear Richard Wiseman on this show.
That's a good call, Mike.
He used to do an awful lot of radio stuff with me, but hasn't in recent years.
So we'll give that a go.
Karen in Michigan heard the show with Dr. Stephen Greer and heard us talk about the CE5 alien contact protocol.
And she said, I can tell you it works as far as I'm concerned, says Karen.
Last summer, my sister and I, that's Chris, who live in different states, did the meditations on our own for a few weeks.
And then I went to go and visit her in Mississippi.
While I was there, we decided to try to make contact.
We went outside at nightfall and followed the protocol using the CE5 app.
We waited, nothing happened.
We decided to stay outside anyway, just to stargaze.
All of a sudden, we saw a bright light appear in the sky, and then it disappeared.
At first, we thought it was an airplane, so we continued chatting.
Then we saw it again in the same spot as before.
This happened at least five times in an hour.
We don't know if it actually was an ET craft, nor did we have expensive equipment to try and capture an image, just an old iPhone, but it was quite an experience.
Karen, thank you for that.
Maybe I should give this a try in my local park.
Watch this space, as they say.
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Right.
The guest, Craig Campobasso in Los Angeles, is an acclaimed multi-award winning Hollywood casting director, but much more than that.
I mean, his contact book of A-lister is pretty incredible, as you will hear.
He's worked with people like Steven Spielberg and David Lynch, Burt Reynolds, and a ton of other people, Loney Anderson, but you name them.
He's known them.
But he also has a considerable interest for personal reasons in UFOs and aliens, and indeed has written extensively about those things.
So he's the guest on this edition, and we'll also talk about his definition of the various species of aliens about which he's written a book.
So Craig Campabasso, coming soon here on The Unexplained.
Thank you very much for being part of all of this.
Remember that website, theunexplained.tv, and also don't forget to check out my official Facebook page, the official Facebook page of The Unexplained with Howard Hughes.
All right, let's get to Los Angeles, California now, where I'm sure the weather is always better than it is here in London, and say, Craig Campobasso, thank you very much for coming on my show.
So great to be here, Howard.
How are you?
I'm very good.
Are you near or in Los Angeles?
Did I do you a disservice there?
No, I am in Los Angeles proper, but I just sort of live in one of the valleys that is within Los Angeles.
So yes, that was correct.
Okay, and how are you getting by all you Los Angelinos now?
How's it going for you?
Well, everything has opened back up.
You can go back and start eating outside at restaurants and things of that nature.
And I haven't checked the numbers lately to see if they're going down, but I hear that they're starting to go down and lots of people are getting vaccinated and all of that.
And the film production continues to endure during it all.
Really?
Did they, I mean, I must admit, I haven't checked in with my friend Jeannie Wolfe, veteran Hollywood correspondent for a little while, but did productions continue with COVID restrictions?
Were they able to keep filming?
They were able to keep filming until they made them stop a few times when the pandemic got really bad and there was a period of a month or two where you could not film.
But everything is up.
They've got everything going.
I do a couple of TV shows.
I have a movie shooting right now.
And they're all very good about everyone getting COVID tested before you arrive.
Or if you're shooting at a studio, all the actors and everybody has to, they get a test three days before.
And before they lit them on the studio lot, they wait outside and then they take their temperature.
They give them an Insta test.
And if everything's okay, then they send them into the studio and they go and do their work.
And everyone's sort of sequestered away.
And all of that.
The actors love it because now even the small people who have doing the small parts, get their own private room with their own private bathroom, where before they were just in a free-for-all.
So, these days, if you call for a trailer, you might actually get one.
You might get one.
That's right.
I don't think I'd stretch my life.
Well, it's good to know that, you know, come hell high water, two world wars and COVID.
Nothing much stops Tinsel Town, Craig.
That's right.
Very heartwarming to hear from you.
All right.
You've got a great track record that goes back to when you were a kid.
So talk to me about you.
I've got a top line here on your biography, and I'll only read this bit, and you can fill in the blanks.
Because multi-award-winning filmmaker, Emmy-nominated casting director Craig Campabasso was 15 when he started in the entertainment business.
His young acting career was off to a great start.
Your first gig, apparently, was a commercial for McDonald's.
Nothing wrong with that.
And then it all caught fire from there because you found yourself working.
And let's just talk briefly about this because great career at a very young age with real A-listers.
I began my career working on David Lynch's Dune for producer Dino DeLaurentes.
And I actually was one of the few people that worked on that movie for four long years.
I mean, the first year it was just me, David Lynch, Rafaela DeLaurentis, and a couple of secretaries.
And then the production started.
We were at Universal and then we went into a long pre-production.
And then we moved, the filming location was down at Estudios, Cherubusco, in Mexico City.
And Rafaela and Dino, at the same time, were producing Conan the Destroyer with Arnold.
So I was working on both those productions at the same time.
And we were shooting both those productions at the same time.
So if you were looking for Grace Jones, for instance, you would go to the Dune set because you knew she wouldn't be on her set.
She'd be over looking to see what's going on on the Dune set.
So it was quite fun going back and forth.
And when we had the premiere, the Royal Premiere was in London.
My very first time there was in 1984.
And all my ancestors come from England.
So it was very exciting to go.
And we had the big premiere and then we had the big after party at a place called Blondie's.
So you're a brick, really, underneath it up there.
I am.
I am 58%, to be exact.
That is a very precise quotient.
So, I mean, you must have a hell of an address book there.
You know, Arnold Schwarzenegger, you worked with David Lynch, Grace Jones, who I love, Slave to the River.
You know, so you got a real wham-bang start to all of this then.
It sounds from the story that you tell, you kind of started at the top.
I didn't really know I was starting at the top because I didn't know anybody in the film business.
I didn't even know who David Lynch or Dino de Laurentis or who any of them were when I started.
And it was just sort of this four long years of tutelage from these masters and watching and observing and them teaching me.
And if I had questions and things, they were always so gracious to help me and to answer.
And Dino always had many productions going on, so I could always sort of check in on some of those others.
And I started learning about the whole backstory of the business and how things are done and all of that.
So it was quite interesting.
So June then, working with David Lynch on Dune, do you think that that is where, or maybe not, the interest in sci-fi, space, aliens, intergalactic stuff began?
Actually, no.
I was never into science fiction or into extraterrestrials, otherworldly things at all until after I was working on Dune, I went to Steven Spielberg's Amazing Stories, his TV show over at Universal.
And during this time, I had one of the most intense spiritual awakenings I ever had in my life.
And this is sort of where I started connecting into understanding how the universe works and understanding being interconnected with everything.
And as I started to grow and to learn and sprout, this is where the interest began.
And I started going and listening to lectures and reading lots of books.
And then I would meet ufologists and I've become friends with them over all these years.
I've gone on cases.
I've studied.
I don't consider myself a ufologist.
I consider myself an enthusiast.
I have met many, many people who have been either abducted or they are contactees in both negative and positive situations.
And when you just start learning all of this information, it's amazing what is out there if you look.
And I've had a very long time to look.
So this is how my interest began way back when.
What were you doing for Steven Spielberg?
What was your role?
I started on his show.
That's where I started my casting career as a casting associate.
And it was his anthology series.
So it was very exciting to work on that show Because every week we had a different director, and it was a different type of show.
One week it could be fantasy, the next week sci-fi, the next week horror.
And we worked with all these huge directors.
My favorite director that we worked with, well, one of them was Burt Reynolds.
This is where I first met him.
And I worked with him many times over the years and hired him in movies and things, even one with Raquel Welch.
I think it was their third or fourth movie together.
And he was just so kind and so gracious.
And Lonnie Anderson starred in the episode along with Dom De Louise and a bunch of other wonderful greats.
And I just remember one day I was sick and I stayed home and he called me at home and he said, are you okay?
Can I go buy you some chicken soup or some food and bring it to your house?
And I was like, oh, God, no, don't do that.
I'll get fired.
You know.
Well, that's a hell of a house caller, Burt Reynolds.
I've heard stories about Burt Reynolds.
You know, we tend to think of him, if we've seen him on TV here or in the movies, you think of a guy with a hairy chest, denim shirt, moustache, perfectly coiffed hair.
But there was a lot of people say that Burt Reynolds was a fantastic guy.
Yes.
Yes, he was amazing.
He literally was extremely kind.
And like even when, even on Amazing Stories, at the end of the episode, he bought everyone denim jackets with Amazing Stories logo on the back for the entire casting crew.
So was Bert Reynolds into all of this stuff?
Did he have an interest in the paranormal?
I will tell you, I talked to many actors and a lot of famous ones at that.
And a lot of them did.
I never did talk to Bert about it.
But many of them are into it.
Some of them have had their own extraterrestrial experiences as well.
Can you name some names here?
I can't name those names because that was in strictness of confidence.
But one question I would always ask is, if a benevolent race came and said, hi, would you like to come on our ship and we'll give you a tour of the universe, would you go?
And I would say about 75 to 80% of everyone's always said yes.
And the rest said no, that they'd be too afraid of the unknown.
So lots of people, lots of people were just enamored with the subject.
Now, when you were working on these things as a young man, and we kind of skipped over it, and that's my fault.
I should have pressed you a little bit more on it, but let's go to it now, just before we conclude this segment.
Age 26, life-changing spiritual awakening.
Big words.
Yes.
What happened?
Big spiritual awakening.
I started having dreams.
And in these dreams, I would just see these three beings and I would just feel this immense unconditional love emanating from them.
And I would wake up and just think it was a dream and I would forget about it.
And it kept repeating night after night after night after night.
And then that lasted for two months.
And then the next two months, I would be in the dream, but then I would wake up in the dream and feel like I was actually there with them, which was a whole different experience.
And I would sort of wake up and I would think it over and ponder it.
And then it would just go out of my mind.
And that lasted for two months.
And then for the last two months, which was a total of six months, I would have those two same processes.
And then I would open my eyes, I'd wake up in bed, and then I would see these three beings' astral forms at the foot of my bed.
And I would still feel this emanation, this love.
And then at the end of that, then these beings actually fed me from their hands this golden light that ballooned into my body.
And that's what sort of went in and woke up my cellular structure and opened me up.
It's like as if the universe opened up and you got to feel its extreme love.
And in that instance, it's almost like I would equate it to when people have a near-death experience and they say it was the most unbelievable loving thing they ever felt and they didn't want to come back, but they were told that they had to come back because they had unfinished business.
I would equate it to that type of love.
So it began in this way, and I just kept escalating and learning and going on this journey.
And then during this waking period of two years, I wrote a book.
And it was a 400-page book.
And I was lucky enough to meet Shirley MacLean.
I gave it to Shirley to read.
And she was like, oh, my God, you have so much to say.
You know, this is amazing.
She gave me some advice.
She gave me a lot of advice about things to do and about structure of the book.
At the time, I was quite good friends with her daughter, and she said, you know, I should mention them more because it would also help with the book.
And we had a lot of great philosophical conversations way back in the day.
Well, Craig, let me tell you that it never hurts.
I've discovered my whole life through, and my colleagues will be nodding in agreement and appreciation here.
It never hurts to drop a few names.
Right.
Craig Campabasso, What a life this guy's had.
We're going to be talking about the ET soon.
Don't worry if you're into all of those things.
But I mean, what a life he's had.
You started writing, and you got advice from luminaries like Shirley McLean.
And you began to write books, but they were fiction works, weren't they?
They were kind of like the stuff you were doing in your day job on the films and TV series.
When I, at the end of this, writing this 400-page book, one of these beings, these masters, I call them master teachers because that's what they are, said to me, when you connect in, by the way, it's what I call a mind internet.
So you can, because you are open, you become this open channel, you can correspond with other beings as well.
And since these three beings were there from the beginning, the one male master teacher said, what would you say if I told you you just wrote that book for yourself?
And I said, well, then I learned a lot about myself.
And he said, now it's time to actually sit down and write the books that you came here to write.
And he said, so sit at your table and I want you to write and write and write and never, don't stop, don't edit.
Keep going until no more words are heard in your head.
And so.
So were they, sorry to interrupt, were they feeding you with stories or were they just giving you permission, you think, to do your thing?
Well, to me, it was actually like reading a book.
I would see the visuals.
I would hear words.
I would write words down that I didn't even know what they meant.
And then later I would go to the dictionary and look them up and go, oh, that fits perfectly there.
So where was this coming from then?
Well, later on, I learned that it's channeled.
It's channeled information that is being channeled from this higher source.
So this is where my book series came into being called The Autobiography of an Extraterrestrial Saga.
And right now there's four books in the saga, and there'll be seven in total.
So would you call that then fiction based on what you believe is fact?
Well, I leave it up to the reader to believe and take it which way they want to take it.
I want to talk about your new book about all the different races, but just on the four books that you've written of this kind in this genre, I mean, how would you sum them up then?
If you could?
Well, it's a little difficult, but I'll do my best.
If you wanted to know what it's like out there in the universe and the structure of all of the positive, fully conscious, enlightened beings, these are the books for you.
The main character is a gentleman named Tehran, who is a Pleiadian from the Pleiades, and he is a college professor at the University of Melchizedek, and he is at the college level there.
And he teaches starseeds or highly advanced beings who are going to reincarnate on dualistic worlds like Earth.
And because they have already been fully conscious when they are born here, they're able to activate their spiritual center and spiritually grow.
And that helps raise consciousness on the planet.
So this is a universal program, as they explain it, to get everyone on Earth and to raise the consciousness on Earth so that at a certain point, universal society will rejoin or will join with Earth and we will become a part of that community again because we lost it, because we digressed into a dualistic nature.
What do you mean?
Well, at a certain point in Earth's history, way back when, there were many conscious beings.
And in the extraterrestrial species almanac, some of those races were actually here and seeded the planet as well.
And so they were living in a fully conscious race until they started getting, their ego started growing.
And then they started warring and everything digressed and we lost that way.
And so we became dualistic.
So how I explain it in simpler terms is a dualistic being is learning the difference between right and wrong and using their mind or their ego.
And then a fully conscious being uses their heart and understands what all the dualistic tools are in the universe and is able to therefore interact with beings with grace and ease and truth.
So in other words, here, we might get mad at somebody and we hold resentment and we don't talk to them anymore.
In a fully conscious world, they would talk it out and they would figure out which is the best way.
And if those two beings couldn't do it, then they would get an intermediary to help them work through it.
And then therefore, there is no ill at ease or no disease that is left on the body.
Okay.
So there's now.
So This influence, this Pleiadian influence, you believe is here.
It's always been here.
Is that right?
Yes.
It's always been here.
Yes.
And how does this, I'm sure you're aware of the stories of Billy Meyer, the events in the life of Billy Meyer.
He claims to be connected with the Pleiadians.
Yes, yes.
There's a lot of people who tend to be connected to the Pleiadians as well.
And how did all this go down when you're making a living doing your stuff in Hollywood casting, which you still do after 40 years?
How did all of this stuff, if you talked about it, go down with your colleagues?
I will tell you, when it even started happening to me at age 26, I started having get-togethers at my house and I would share my experiences with my friends.
I would have a UFologist come to my house.
Back then, everything was on VHS tapes.
We would pop the VHS tapes in and they would see all the latest footage of discs shaped craft, UFOs, different things, talking.
They would talk about the latest stuff.
And these parties grew.
Back then, of course, I had a one-bedroom apartment, but these parties grew into over 100 people coming to my house at once.
There was such a thirst to hear this knowledge.
So I used to make big giant vats of spaghetti and feed everybody.
Did you ever talk to Spielberg about this stuff?
Because, of course, he made close encounters and E.T. and a ton of other stuff.
He did, yes.
I mean, I only ran into him a couple of times during Amazing Stories because he was off shooting the color purple at the time.
But I didn't have that much interaction with him.
It was just with our main producer, David Vogel, who later went on to become one of the senior VPs at Disney for many, many years.
But I did hear that, I heard through the grapevine, and I don't know if it's true, but that I think that the government went to him and wanted him to make close encounters of the third kind and took him to see the bodies.
No, well, I heard part of that.
I heard the first part of that.
The second part is interesting.
Do you think, and you know Hollywood better than I ever will, obviously, do you think that there is an agenda that somebody is driving here that we're getting a kind of, and have for decades, a kind of disclosure, but we're getting it through the movies and TV?
I do believe that is true.
And this is in a good sense so that people will understand it.
Now, I made the short film Stranger at the Pentagon, which is the Valiant Thor story.
And we're making it right now into a big feature film.
I'm raising the financing now.
All right.
Well, let's get into that.
And we'll talk in the next segment about all the alien races.
But I wanted to try and get into the Valiant Thor story, too.
I had heard about this.
And you know that this story is widely debunked.
The idea being that I think for a period of about three or four years, an extraterrestrial was actually part of the Pentagon, the government establishment, and I think also went to the United Nations and various other things.
And you know that the story that didn't emerge until more recent years has been widely, widely debunked.
What do you think?
I mean, do you think that's just a bit of fiction, or do you think that there's some truth in that?
Who do you think Valiant Thor was?
Well, Valiant Thor was a created being.
He did not have a belly button.
So we would sort of put him in a more angelic sort of classification.
Throughout history, there's been several created beings that have come here as well.
And we would call them a universal emissary.
He came, it was a prearranged meeting, and so they knew the date that he was coming.
And so he was here for three years to discuss a proposal, which was to eliminate sickness, disease, prolonged life, talk to them about atomics and the dangers of what it's doing interdimensionally and throughout the universe, free energy, all those things, also about the ways of the universe.
Sorry to hear I go jumping in again.
I hate that.
Sure.
So forgive me.
Do you believe that Valiant Thor existed?
Well, I will tell you what I have found.
I met Dr. Frank Stranges in 2001.
Who was the man we have to say who put the story out there?
Who put the story out there and who met him in December of 1959 and then reconnected with him in 61 and then stayed friends with him and his complement all the way up until his death in 2008.
So here are the things that we do know is that Admiral Richard E. Byrd wrote a letter to a Rear Admiral in 1956.
I have a copy of the letter from the Byrd family.
And in this letter, he was asking that they could bring his nephew, Harley Byrd, over to the DOD because he was recently married and had a kid and he needed something more stable because he was in the Honor Guard at the time.
So in early 57, Harley Bird was given a job in Project Blue Book.
And so he was there during the Valiant Thor time that he was there for those three years.
And he wrote The foreword to Stranger at the Pentagon and confirmed the story.
Paul Hellier, when Ancient Aliens saw my short film, they called me, wanted to do a story on Valiant Thor and Dr. Frank.
I appeared on the show.
Paul Hellier, the former Canadian Minister of Defense, confirmed the Valiant Thor story on that program.
So there was in reality, and I kind of somewhere in my head here, maybe this is just a fantasy on my part, I seem to remember seeing film of Valiant Thor.
Maybe I'm confused here.
But Valiant Thor was said to be a real-life Venusian almost ambassador to this planet.
Well, what we have come to know is that he is more universal because he's a created being.
So he's immortal, right?
So his place where he lived was the interior of Venus.
I do not believe he was a Venusian, but a lot of people believe that because Dr. Frank always talked about him being from Venus because that's where he was because he's sort of in charge of this sector of the universe as being an ambassador between worlds.
And if there's disputes, he's one of the people that goes and helps to try and rectify things.
But there's been, throughout the years, I've met and talked with a lot of different people who told me they worked in different things.
One guy called me once, said he worked in the Secret Service back in those times, and he said, the story is true.
I met several other people who just said, I'm just going to tell you the story is true.
I met another guy who had a radio show who told me he used to be in the CIA on the side.
He said, all I can tell you is the story is true.
I cannot prove the story.
I can only share all the information and the stories that Dr. Frank told me.
I would love it to believe that.
I mean, but you do know that a lot of people debunk this.
And they also debunk Dr. Frank.
They say he didn't have the qualifications that he said he had and all of that stuff.
But then that goes with this territory.
Me personally, I would love to believe that Valiant Thor existed.
I mean, according to the detail of this, he's supposed to have been introduced to both Eisenhower and Nixon when he was vice president.
That's correct.
Yeah.
And that happened.
The very first meeting happened on Saturday, March 16th, 1957.
And then he was there for three years.
He supposedly also was there for the beginning parts of NASA and helped them regulate their space suits and things because a lot of, well, the astronauts were constantly getting really, really sick and throwing up.
So helped with that.
These are stories that Dr. Frank also told me.
The photographs that were taken of Valiant Thor were taken by a retired Air Force photographer at Howard Menger's farm.
And Howard Menger was a huge contactee back in this time in New Jersey.
And Valiant Thor, his Vice Commander Dawn, and another Vice Commander's wife, whose name was Jill, went to one of his UFO lectures in his backyard where he used to have them.
And this is where the retired photographer saw Valiant Thor, knew there was something different.
He saw that he did not have palm prints or fingerprints.
And he said when he looked at him, he looked right through him like he was looking into the depths of his soul and could read everything about him.
So it was the strangest feeling.
So he focused on taking over 250 photographs of Valiant Thor, Dawn, and Jill that day.
Now, when, because all of the beings that Howard was in contact with were human, there was a secret handshake that they gave to Howard to let Howard know that they were not from here.
That evening, after it had dispersed, and the Air Force photographer's name was August Roberts, and they called him Auggie.
Auggie went up to Howard and said, those three, were they from here?
Did they give you the handshake?
And he said, yes, they did give me the handshake.
So there was that confirmation that goes back way into that story.
And I obtained that information through people who a lot of the August Roberts files were handed down to over the years of things that Augie typed up that he was going to write a book about.
So I have the pages of the book that he was going to write.
This movie you're working on is going to be amazing.
I think it's an incredible story that people need to hear.
Craig Campabaso in Los Angeles.
Craig, I'm sorry, we talked about so much other cool stuff.
The book that we were supposed to be talking about, we're going to have to cram in now at the end.
I think we're going to have to talk again.
82 species, you say, of extraterrestrial.
How do you know that?
There's well more than 82 species, but what I had to do is when I was doing the book is figure out a number.
And I had listened to Paul Hellier giving a talk.
We just talked about him, the former Canadian Minister of Defense.
And he said that he knew of 82 races that have visited or are visiting Earth.
So I decided to honor him and use 82 races.
And that's how I came up with that number.
Most of us have heard of the Greys.
The Greys are either robots or they're not very intelligent worker bees in a lot of people's estimation.
A lot of people have heard about the reptilians.
They're the ones who have a bit more in the way of brains and call the shots and stuff.
But beyond that, I think it's fuzzy for most people.
They don't really know that much about the different species.
When, as we talked about my spiritual awakening, I began this giant quest and I just started absorbing all these books about contactees and meeting the people who were doing them.
For instance, Colonel Wendell Stevens did over 60 books in his lifetime of contactees who had met many races from around the universe.
And then there were other books that I particularly liked.
So what I did is I contacted them and I not, Wendell has passed, but his daughter runs his company now.
So I obtained permission to sort of retell a little bit of their stories in the book.
And then if people are interested in learning more about it, they can go to the back of the book under further reading.
But some of the most interesting ones are there's a group called Aryans, which are actually Asian-looking extraterrestrials.
And there are several other races that are variations of Asian.
One race is called the Ni, it's GnE.
And anyway, they explain how their whole solar system was warring and warring and warring.
And then at a certain point, they all just said, what are we doing this for?
And now they all work together and they travel in motherships and explore the universe and things of that nature.
So there's a real life, just like Star Trek.
You think there's an intergalactic federation?
Yes, yes, yes.
And is that why we don't, if there are 82 species or more, is that why they don't reveal themselves more because they've agreed to handle us, the human race on Earth, in a particular way, and they're all doing it the same way?
Well, through this consciousness-raising program, when we're ready and we therefore match their consciousness, then we will rejoin with it.
So that's why we just see the crafts.
Lots of people are having experiences and things of that nature.
Like, for instance, the Alpha Centaurians, which are, there's a man named Ricardo Gonzalez who lives in South America.
He is having face-to-face contact with the Alpha Centaurians, and they say that they know of 1,019,000 races.
And then if you get into, yes, and that's just what they know of.
And then there's the Urantia book, which is a big, thick book about the universe and all kinds of stuff.
It says that our planet Earth registry number is 5,342,482,337,666.
So if that's just our registry number in the universe, how many planets are there in the universe?
I mean, so...
They're waiting for us to catch up, our consciousness to catch up.
And then, like what happened with me, you sort of get in this mind internet and you start to travel and you can start connecting with different beings and different species and different things of that nature.
There's a whole longer thing of a conversation that we can have much later where I can go into greater detail on all of that.
But there are many people who are having contacts and things, and some people don't want to talk about it.
And there are many people that work in positions all over the world who are having experiences.
And then there are extraterrestrials who are human who are actually living on Earth and working in different jobs because they're also here because their consciousness is helping to raise the planet.
For instance, the Clarions, there's a gentleman in Italy named Maurizio Cavallos having face-to-face contact with them.
He's taken pictures of about six or seven of them, and he allowed me to reproduce two of the photos of a male and a female in the book.
So we've got, I think, about four or five photographs of real extraterrestrials.
One of those pictures I took myself while I was studying a case in the North Carolinas.
You took a picture of an ET.
I did.
It was a friend of mine was abducted and had this major experience.
He's a very well-known case.
And so I flew back there with another friend and he took me down to the river where it all happened and showed me everything, then took me back to the house they abandoned, him and his family, because there was just too much stuff going on there.
But in his backyard was like a forest.
And he said, when I came home with my son, the rest of the family was gone.
And we were so freaked out that they parked in the back and they were entering the house through the back and they were seeing the extraterrestrials walking out of the forest towards them.
And his son is telling me the story and he's flipping out and he showed me in his bedroom.
He goes, and I'm shutting the blinds and it's like right looking at me right there from the window outside.
And so as he's telling me the story in the forest, I was using my Minolta camera and I kept snapping photographs.
I didn't look at those and I was in the hotel room the next morning and I said, well, let me look at these.
And all of a sudden I see this Shadow, not a shadow, but a solid form that was in shadow of a being who had short legs.
The legs were about as high as your knee, a normal person's knee.
Then it was a very long, wide torso, arms, a long neck, and an elongated head.
And it was holding a light source.
And when I saw that light source, I said, oh my God, that's an interdimensional device.
And then I lightened the photograph up, and you could see more features on its face.
And it's wearing goggles.
And the goggles, I automatically said, oh, this is how they see interdimensionally, like we use night vision binoculars, right?
And my friend, when I showed him the picture that day, he said, yeah, that's them.
And he said, and by the way, they allowed you to take their photograph.
They wanted you to take their photograph.
So anyway, the very next photo after this being were giant streamers of plasma falling from the sky.
And so I put all of these photos as the last entry in the back of the book called The Unknown Alien.
And anyway, it is just fascinating.
And we came to know and doing some research because my friend knows some people who he talks to who are in the know.
I'll just put it that way, that these beings had not been seen on planet Earth since the 50s.
So it's just all fascinating.
Well, no, it is.
There's a lot more to talk about.
And I know some of my listeners are going to say, you talked with him about all sorts of other stuff.
We want to hear about all the alien races.
And to them, I say, we will talk again, Craig Campabasa.
Finally, the crux of it all, though, is this.
There are good ones and bad ones, aren't there?
They're not all good.
Yes.
Right.
That's correct.
And there's neutral ones as well.
How are the bad ones kept in check then by the good ones?
How come, you know, the bad ones are not doing bad deeds here on Earth as far as we know?
Well, the bad ones know how to circumvent universal law.
So, for instance, they can't come here and start abducting people or doing things of that nature because they know they'll get caught.
So what they do is they go to the representatives of the countries and say, look, we'll give you technology.
You let us set up some underground bases.
You give us that authority.
And you let us pick up from time to time the undesirables on your planet so we can study their body and we'll put them back.
Right.
So this, as we know, happened here in the U.S. And then over time, when some of these saucers were downed, they actually started finding not only animal body parts, but human body parts in them.
So there's a battle being fought over us then.
The good ones and the bad ones are vying for supremacy?
Well, they're vying for supremacy in the sense of this is a dualistic world that the rest of the universe, I call it the galactarian alignment of space peoples and planets because that's how it was presented to me, that this is the next world that is going there.
So all of these darker energies, extraterrestrials, people on Earth who are in the control system, who rule the world, as I say in Stranger at the Pentagon, they rule it behind corporations and they run it because they're the money masters.
So they can sort of dictate how things go and they can kind of run the world.
And if you kind of look at what's going on now, it makes you think, doesn't it?
So very quickly, if you can answer this in 30 seconds, you'll be my new best friend.
There's a lot of talk about disclosure.
What is to disclose?
If we get disclosure, what's going to be disclosed?
Well, I don't think the government's going to actually ever come out and give that kind of disclosure.
But I think films like Stranger at the Pentagon and lots of other things, and they're releasing little bits and stuff out there, I think that's how it's going to go.
By the way, people can watch Stranger at the Pentagon on Amazon Prime, and it is in the UK, so you can watch it there.
And if people want to check out your website so they can check out everything that they do, what's that?
The website for my autobiography of an extraterrestrial books is autobiographyofunanet.com.
I sign and autograph all the books, by the way, and personalize them.
The ET Almanac is also at autobiographyofunet.com.
And you click on other books.
And all things Stranger at the Pentagon is stranger at the Pentagon.com.
I have all of Dr. Frank's out-of-print books there, including Stranger at the Pentagon.
And people can also watch the short film on the website there.
Oh, boy.
Yes.
Well, we're going to have to talk again.
I've got to go.
Craig, thank you so much.
Thank you, Howard.
I had a great time.
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