The Unexplained - Howard Hughes - Edition 92 - Peter Maxwell Slattery

Sept. 20, 2012 - The Unexplained - Howard Hughes

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Edition 92 - Peter Maxwell Slattery

This Edition features an ordinary young Australian guy who says he has had a lifetime ofextraordinary UFO and alien contact.

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	Across the UK, across continental North America, and around the world on the internet, by webcast and by podcast, my name is Howard Hughes and this is The Return of the Unexplained.
	Thank you for keeping faith with the show and with me and thank you very much for all the emails that I've had lately.
	I'm going to do some name checks probably in the next edition, but thank you for your good thoughts.
	Lots of emails coming in at the moment from Australia and New Zealand.
	I think somebody there is linking to the website www.theunexplained.tv and that's why we've got a lot of new listeners.
	So welcome to The Unexplained.
	If you're listening down under, wherever you're listening, please tell your friends about this show.
	We've got to spread the word.
	This time round, we've got our first Australian guest.
	The man is Peter Maxwell Slattery.
	Now, if you live in Australia, you've probably read and heard about this guy.
	You might well have seen him on television as well.
	He is what we might call a UFO experiencer, he says.
	But there's a hell of a lot more to his story than that, so we'll be talking to him in just a little while.
	I've been trying to get a decent connection to Australia, and we're going to get the best phone line that we can, but it may not be fantastic quality, so I apologise for that.
	We tried to connect digitally.
	That was a non-starter.
	And I've tried a number of phone lines, and we've got the best one that we can get.
	But his story is well worth hearing, so please, if you can, persevere with it, because I think he's worth hearing.
	And certainly a new take on UFOs and aliens in this edition of The Unexplained.
	As we record this, I think a big change is happening in the media here, and I think probably around the world, it seems that more and more people are getting their content, their news and music, entertainment, information online.
	Now, that's great news for people like me who make shows like this.
	And I think there is a huge sea change happening.
	You know, the mainstream media organisations have been caught out, I think.
	They're on the back foot because of this, and they're having to try to respond to it.
	But of course, they're doing it as a business first.
	We're doing it because we love doing this show.
	And if we can get some donations in to help us run it, this show runs at a loss, so the donations are absolutely vital, then that's fine.
	That's our model for this.
	And if one day we can get a sponsor or somebody to back us or some network to carry the show, that'd be great too.
	But it is interesting that the way people get their material, their content, their information and entertainment is definitely shifting.
	I think I'll keep you posted on that because I think we're going to see more changes in 2013.
	But that, as they say, is a little way down the track.
	Thank you very much to Adam Cornwell at Creative Hotspot in Liverpool for his fantastic work on the website and getting this show out to you as ever.
	If I sound a little bit late night talk radio at the moment, it's because I'm recording this in the middle of the night in the UK so I can connect to Sydney.
	It's a place near Sydney called Albury, and we'll talk in just a second to Peter Maxwell Slattery about his UFO contact experience, which from what I've read about it is pretty damned amazing.
	If you want to get in touch with me, please do.
	Go to the website www.theunexplained.tv.
	There you can leave a donation.
	And it is vital, whatever you do, however you're hearing this show, if it's through iTunes or a portal, please go to the website, www.theunexplained.tv.
	Right, let's cross to Australia now to Old Breed near Sydney, and we're going to talk to Peter Maxwell Slattery.
	Peter, thank you very much for coming on the show.
	Thank you for having me.
	Hey, now, listen, I was hoping to chance a digital connection to you, but we tried before, and it didn't really work out.
	So we're doing it the old-fashioned way on the telephone, but that's how things used to be done.
	I'm going to sound like a real British tourist here, but what's the weather like?
	Yes, starting to get a little bit muggy, and we've had some five showers where I'm located now, which is good.
	So we're starting to get rid of the cold weather and the warmer weather's coming in.
	And there's still a bit of snow up on the mountains, which is about an hour and a half drive away from here.
	There's Mount Buffalo and Mount Hotham and Mount Bogon.
	So that's not too far away.
	But when you've got a bit of wind, it gets pretty chilly.
	But besides that, it's not too bad.
	Yeah, no, I've been listening to the radio over the last couple of months from down under.
	I listened to 2GB and 2UE from down there.
	And you've had some pretty rough weather, haven't you, over the last couple of months before springtime?
	Yeah.
	Even at the start of the year, we had major floods up in the Queensland region, the state of Queensland, which is the northeast day.
	We've even had a bit of earthquake activity, which is unusual because we're actually on one tectonic plate.
	So we've had that, and we get the cyclones sort of this time year-round up to about Christmas.
	So, yeah, we've had floods.
	You know, we've had the fires a couple of years ago, which were pretty full on.
	So we've had a bit of everything.
	But hopefully you're going to get your reward now because just as we go into autumn time and we're heading towards winter pretty rapidly up here, you're very nicely coasting into spring.
	And I'm very, very jealous.
	Let me tell you.
	When summer comes, you might be jealous.
	Well, you know, I love Sydney.
	I've been there.
	I haven't told you this, but I've been there twice, both times doing radio shows.
	And the last time, if I remember right, we actually did the show from a ferry, you know, one of the ferries that goes across by the opera house.
	Yeah, yep, that's in the mainly area.
	And we were anchored directly opposite the opera house.
	And this ferry, I think we charted it or something, and we got a bunch of British people.
	People back.
	Were you in that area?
	Yeah, no, we had a great time.
	It was really good.
	We were so well looked after there.
	But, you know, when you leave Australia, when you leave Sydney and you come back here, you miss it really because everything is so laid back.
	You know, there's no bull there in a way that there is in other places.
	You know, people are just...
	I think they're very direct.
	I do.
	So I think you're in a good place.
	But there we are.
	That's good.
	That's good.
	All right.
	Now, the reason we're talking is that you are, if this is the right term to use for you, a UFO and alien experiencer.
	Is that the right term?
	Have I got that correct?
	Yeah, I'd prefer that instead of contact A or deducte or any of that sort of thing.
	So yeah, no, that's fine.
	And you got in touch with me, and then I did a bit of research on you, and I found that you've had quite a lot of media coverage down there.
	I know you've been on the TV a couple of times in Australia, but a lot of interest down there.
	Just explain to people who have no idea who you are up here, why that is, what you've been telling the media there.
	Well, I started filming, taking pictures of UFOs in the daytime, at night time, capturing apparitions and orbs on video and camera as well.
	And one of the people from the local news area here did a piece on me on the news Prime Television.
	And sort of, I didn't know it was going to be played around the whole country, but it ended up being played around the same station, but in other parts of the country.
	And after that, it sort of just took off from there.
	And ever since, people have just been interested in what I've been capturing and what else I've witnessed as well.
	So that's sort of just how it came about.
	But I've been seeing these things since I was 12 years old in 1995.
	I'm 28 years old now.
	And that was the interesting thing about you.
	You know, you've been consistent about this.
	And everything that I've read about you says that the story begins when you were a boy of 12, but continued till later.
	Now, a lot of us, when we were little, when we were younger, like to make stuff up.
	I can remember, I have to say that myself and a bunch of other kids took a picture of a Frisbee years and years ago when we were about 10.
	And we got the local newspaper.
	This is a terrible admission to make for somebody who does a show like this.
	We got the local paper to publish it.
	But you know, we grew out of it.
	This is something that's been with you all your life.
	Yeah, like I didn't even come out about my first sighting for around nine years.
	And even then, I didn't really say much because I had my second sighting in 2004 with a friend of mine actually a block from where I live now.
	I was living close by to where I am now, but I was actually on a street that's next to my block now.
	And I really didn't even say anything from then up till about 2009, 2010.
	And then like in October 2010, the sighting, like I had six sightings in two weeks, witnessed four times by another block.
	I didn't see it the sixth time, but like another person who's seen it and said the exact, like reported the exact same thing.
	I didn't even upload the videos at that time or nothing.
	So I didn't send it to you.
	And what did you see, Peter?
	What were you seeing?
	I mean, six times in two weeks for anybody is a hell of a lot.
	I mean, once in a lifetime, most of us don't even get that.
	Well, it was sort of like an orb.
	Like it was a white light about the size of a two-story house.
	And it would have been about a K and a half away, two Ks.
	And what was happening was I finished work for the day and picked up a mate.
	We went and saw another friend.
	And then we ended up going back to my place.
	And I was driving down Eden Street in Lamington, which is a suburb in Albury.
	And straight ahead at the end, like it's a pretty big street.
	It's probably about a K long, half a K long.
	And when I got to the end, like about halfway down, I saw this light in the sky, but all of a sudden it just went up, then it went right, and then it started just making these cool, smooth maneuvers, like back and forth on itself and up and down.
	I pulled over and another couple of cars pulled up behind me.
	And we just got out of the car, you know, looking at it, just going, what is it?
	What are we looking at?
	Like, it was absolutely, it wasn't conventional like any aircraft we've got at all.
	Like it was only four o'clock in the four or five in the Arbo as well.
	So it was in broad daylight.
	Like it was in the summertime and in the summertime the sun doesn't go down here till about 9930.
	The important thing about these sightings is that you didn't see it alone.
	It's not just one person trying to persuade the world.
	It was you and some other people, yeah?
	Yeah.
	So that was the 2004 one.
	But in 2010, it was the exact same thing, except one of the nights, I don't know if you're seeing the footage, but you can see me point at the object in the sky and it's sitting still and all of a sudden it just shoots off.
	Like all the sightings, when I had the two-week sightings, all of them were that similar to that orbit I saw in 2004, but on the one particular night, like I filmed that once, but another time when I filmed it, as I said, I was pointing at it and it shot off.
	That was, it sort of looked more like an oval shape and like it could have been a disc, I don't know, but it was sort of in that shape of a disc, but it was just emanating the exact same white light like the other crafts were.
	But see, they were different again to what I saw when I was 12 years old.
	What did you see?
	When I was 12 years old.
	Well, I was living with my dad at the time and I went to go from his house and walk down to the corner of Bick Road and the Hume Highway, which is the main highway between Melbourne and Sydney.
	Melbourne's about three hours, three and a half hours south and Sydney's about five hours northeast.
	And I was going up there just to get a slurpee, like an ice cold drink, because it was summer.
	It would have been probably between two and three in the Arbo as well, I think.
	It was in the afternoon time.
	I can't remember the exact time or the exact day, but it was summertime.
	And to my right, I saw, you know, like you ate dumbbells?
	You what?
	You do weights at the dumbbells?
	Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
	Weights.
	Yeah.
	Well, if you get one of those weights and put it on its side, and it's like, it wasn't like a chrome, but it was a grey colour.
	Like it was like a dull metallic.
	It didn't really shine, but it was just, I don't know, it's really hard to explain.
	But that dumbbell shape that you're talking about, Peter, is from what I remember and what I've read, that's a classic UFO shape, isn't it?
	They're not just all round and disc.
	I was talking about the actual weight itself.
	It wasn't like a flying saucer, but it was like a disc.
	a perfect round circle, like an actual weight.
	I got you.
	It's the end part of it.
	I understand.
	Yeah, like an actual weight.
	And like it was probably about 2K away, but it looked like it was three times the size of a football field.
	It was absolutely gigantic.
	And what did you think about that?
	Well, I just, I literally just stood there dumbfound.
	Like I was 12 years old at the time and it stood still, but as soon as my eyes met with it, it stayed still for a few seconds and then it slowly hovered west in front of Red Light Hill, which is like a main hill here that's got the red lights on top of it for the airplanes and it's got the TV towers and that.
	And it hovered actually in front of that and then went west out of the suburb of Lovington.
	And I didn't tell anybody about that till 2004 when my mate me witnessed that one that I was telling you about earlier.
	I didn't say anything to anyone because I was a pretty hyperactive kid and I literally thought no one would believe me.
	The only TV shows or anything I'd seen at the time was stuff like The Extraordinary and Senegal UFOs and caroons and that sort of stuff.
	But as I said, this wasn't like a flying saucer.
	It was just like a gigantic disc.
	So when you saw it the second time and you were older and you were with friends, you thought, well, I've got to come out and admit I've been here before.
	Well, yeah, but I only said it to my brother and in front of another mate.
	And funny enough, my brother only in the last couple of years said that he saw something similar around the same year.
	But he's like five years older than me.
	And he was with 10 of his mates.
	And they actually called him up lately when they saw me on telly.
	And they, he talked to about three of the people out of the 10 people.
	And they brought it up to him going, can you remember what we saw out near Red Light Hill, which is the hill that I'm talking about?
	So, and even then, I really didn't say any, I didn't, you know, blurt it out to anybody really except me mate that I saw it with, me brother and maybe two or three other people.
	So the momentum was growing.
	It was becoming more.
	You had these six sightings across two weeks.
	What did you do about that?
	Well, I contacted the air services two or three times.
	And each time they said that the air control tower was closed, which I don't understand because there's planes coming here until late in the night.
	And these sightings were happening between about five and nine at night.
	Give or take, like each sighting was at a different time.
	So I just don't understand that.
	And after a while, I just gave up until I had a sighting in Melbourne a few years, like about a year ago, I had a sighting because I did paranormal investigating for a while, which I've stopped now and taking UFA reports.
	But I was coming back from Melbourne and the ghost hunting buddy of mine saw it at the same time I did and he witnessed it with me and I contacted the air services.
	That's the only other time I contacted them and they said there was nothing in the area at the time.
	But every single sight, not every single sighting, but three of the sightings that I contacted the Air Services Australia hear about it.
	They said each time that the control towers were shut, which I just don't get because the control tower has to be open for planes to land here.
	And if this is between five and nine in the evening, you know, planes from all over the world are coming at that time.
	I remember when I arrived in Sydney, it was about 5 or 6 p.m.
	So they're operating hard.
	You know what I mean?
	Yeah, no, you're exactly right.
	So unless they've got another system of how that works, I just don't understand how the control tower, because people were contacting me going, there's planes coming in like the debunkers and skeptics.
	And I said, look, I've got the emails and I totally agree with you that, you know, there should be somebody in the control power or something going on there because, you know, but I've got the emails telling me that they're shut at that time.
	Now, if you lived in the UK or if you lived in America, there are UFO groups.
	I mean, there are some here in London and they're all over the UK.
	Loads of them in America.
	Do you have those in Australia?
	Yeah, yeah.
	We've got, like, Victoria's got two or three groups.
	Sydney's, you've got New South Wales Research Sydney.
	You've got basically a major, like a pretty good foundation research or investigation group in every state.
	So, yeah, like we've got that as well.
	We've had that for going back, I reckon, 20, 30 years now.
	And did you make contact with them?
	Did you make contact with any of them?
	Yeah, I did.
	But nobody, I got a couple of callbacks and they looked at the footage and said, interesting and that.
	But I was three and a half hours away from the nearest UFO society and the next closest one is five hours away.
	So I don't know if that has something to do with it.
	Like I never got a phone call.
	All these, the people contacted me by email, but it's only since I've really got out there with all my evidence that other groups have started contacting me now and looking at my story.
	And it's just like, well, you know, I contacted MUFON here.
	I contacted one of the Victorian research groups and a couple of other groups.
	I can't remember the exact names, but yeah, they sent interesting footage, but nothing else.
	So when I got this news, it was like everyone started wanting to talk to me.
	And it's like, well, I've been trying to talk to people for ages about this.
	Okay, now you are already a ghost investigator.
	You've said that.
	And that will make some people who are listening to this think, well, this guy is more inclined to think that he's seeing something paranormal, more inclined than most of us because he's already got a background in this.
	What would you say to that?
	Well, that's the thing.
	At the same time as my second sighting, I write about in my book and I've gone on about it in other interviews and they said it on Prime TV that I've seen shadow people.
	And I've got witnesses to that that actually worked where I worked at the Albury Cave here.
	The place is haunted.
	I got told that by my boss before I even took the job.
	And see, what happened was for years I was left with questions because this was ongoing.
	Not only like you've got two types of haunting, residual type haunting and television type haunting.
	And the Albury Tape that I was working at really got me into all this with the ghost hunting side because I got told that there was activity there and I just, I didn't blow it off, but I just, you know, kept it in the back of my mind just for the simple fact that I'd seen something years before that I just couldn't explain around the same time.
	And sure enough, talking to another bloke there and a couple of teachers there, so the Adult Education Institute there.
	And people would tell me their stories and I witnessed coughing and loud bangs in the toilet block.
	There was a couple of different toilet blocks within the same block and a few different set of stairs.
	And I witnessed apparitions running, like an apparition running down that almost at the same time.
	And then I found out later that a guy died in the toilet from an asthma attack and a bloke died on the steps from slipping over and cracking his skull.
	So you're kind of receptive to this kind of thing.
	When you started to see these UFOs, what sort of feelings went along with that?
	Well, the first couple of times, like the first two times, it was more awe.
	It was just like an awe feeling.
	Later on, I started to feel like it electric static charge sort of thing around me.
	But not only that, what I find weird, and I write about this in my books, is that since 2010, I just know when to walk outside and to see a UFO.
	I can't explain it.
	I just know when to walk outside and there they are, run back inside, grab the camera and take a shot if I'm able to get it or even capture it on my side.
	But you're saying that you get a feeling and when you get that feeling, you know that if I step out the door then, there's going to be something for me to see.
	Yeah, but it took like five sightings to realize that since 2010, it was like, why is it that I know to go outside and I see a craft in the sky?
	So it sounds like whatever it is, if it is anything, it's around you.
	It's finding you.
	Well, it could be.
	Like, I've had experiences with actual beings now.
	And I just, yeah, it's just hard to explain because all I can tell is that that's something in me that I just know when to go outside.
	And I'm just only lately come to realize that they're basically telepathically contacting me.
	It's not coming, it's coming through more like a thought.
	And I just go outside and there they are.
	And that's what you've been telling the television down in Sydney, isn't it?
	That you've had contact with beings.
	Tell me about that.
	Talk to me about that.
	Well, before I actually was able to, I've only communicated with one of them.
	There's three different types of beings that I've seen.
	One is the first one that I ever saw was about seven foot, between six and a half, seven foot tall, and it was a light blue light bean.
	It appeared exactly like human form, but there was no private parts or anything.
	It was just legs, arms, body, head.
	But it had eyes, a mouth and hair, but it was all the same light colour.
	It looked like between a...
	And where did you see this?
	Was this being walking down the street?
	Was it on the craft?
	Was it in your house?
	It just appeared in my house.
	In your house?
	The doors locked.
	Yeah, the doors were locked.
	The windows were shut.
	It just appeared out of nowhere.
	And if I'd seen that, I'd have died with fright.
	Well, I'll tell you what, it scared the absolute living crap out of me.
	Like, I can't explain it anyway.
	And I've seen that same being four times, and he just appeared one time with another one.
	So I saw that for a while.
	And then a few months, about a month after I saw that, I had a lady appear in my house who appeared out of nowhere like you've got a film running.
	Imagine there's no cut in the film.
	All of a sudden, you've just got an object in that film.
	Well, she just appeared in my house and she had blondish brown hair and sort of the skin colour was between a Caucasian and an Asian colour, but her eyes were about three times the size.
	They weren't any different.
	They had like the pupil bit and the, you know, the like her eyes were blue and then you got the white behind it, but they were really beautiful blue.
	And she had on like a wet suit, but it wasn't tight fitting and it wasn't loose fitting and it was a two-piece suit.
	It came up to a turtleneck on the top.
	Now from the top of the turtleneck down to about her shoulders was just black, but the rest of the clothing had triangles, squares and rectangles in it that were colours between black, blue and yellow.
	Oh, and were they like hieroglyphic symbols, do you think?
	No, not symbols, it was just shapes all over the whole piece.
	And when she appeared and you say that she was quite a beautiful vision with beautiful eyes, was there any communication between you?
	Yes, that's the one that I've communicated with eight times, but I've only spoken to her in person four times.
	The other times it's been messages just in my head.
	I can't explain it any other way.
	It's like there's a microphone inside my brain and it's just there.
	It's got nothing to do with the ears.
	It's just in my head and that's how it is when she actually speaks to me is telepathically.
	She's obviously had messages for you.
	What has she told you?
	Well, the first time she appeared, I jumped back and once I was able to get the balls enough to just compose myself and speak to her, I asked her who she was and she told me that her name was Shizi and I got a symbol in her head saying S-H-I-J-I.
	I asked her, yeah, Shizi.
	And I asked her where she was from and she said the pleadies.
	And we talked about it, well, she talked to me about a few things, telling me how humans are special, we're all special and we don't know who we are.
	Now, on the, it was the last telepathic message I had because people were asking me where she's from and I said, look, I think he's pleading.
	I don't have a clue, don't ask me because I just don't know how.
	Well, a few months ago, she told me that in a message, I had a vision in my head when I was walking from the office to the kitchen.
	And it was really troubling me at this time because I had people from all around the world asking me these things, emails and people contacting me.
	And she must have just knew that, and by the way, she's not a she or a he or human.
	That's how she appears.
	I found out later on.
	But from this message, she put, basically I had a vision in my head that I was in the universe.
	And she said, I'm from here.
	And it was a picture of the Pleiades, but there were stars everywhere.
	I could see the background, everything.
	And she said, I'm the fourth star from the left.
	And I said, look, there's just too many stars.
	And she zoomed in on this one star.
	And she said, I'm an etherile being from here.
	Now, I didn't even know what etheral meant at the time.
	And I went and looked up the star system.
	And I didn't know what angle she was showing to me from, but I found a picture similar.
	And it's a star me rope.
	So she's from an actual star, not a planet, an actual star.
	And what did she tell you about life there?
	You know, about the other beings that lived there?
	Well, they're light beings.
	They don't eat.
	She's fifth dimensional, she said, or fifth density.
	And it's more as if she's trying to...
	She hasn't really said much about her planet except that their needs are not our needs and they're basically in service mode.
	They don't.
	We're talking about something from another realm that their needs are not what ours are.
	And I think, from what I understand, they're trying to up our spiritual gain and stop getting, you know, obsessed with the physicality of things in our world.
	And when she said we don't know who we are, did she ever explain that to you?
	Yes, but over many periods, all I can really say, I've said everything I can in the book so far.
	Say everything is in there, but to cut to the chase, she said that we're all a part of God, the God source, which is how she put it to me, universal consciousness or God source.
	And that if you can imagine in the beginning, there was this huge gigantic being, like an actual spirit, and it wanted to go and experience life in every single form and gain knowledge in every single way possible.
	So it created the planets and then it basically exploded half of its spirit up, which created zillions and zillions and zillions and zillions of spirits to go out into the whole entire universe throughout all dimensions and experience life in every single form and gain knowledge in every single form.
	And when you started telling people the stuff that she was telling you, and even the fact that you'd had this contact with Shi Chi, what did your ordinary friends, the guys that you know, what did they say to you?
	They must have teased you rotten about that.
	Didn't they?
	No, I've been so surprised.
	I hardly even speak about it to anyone.
	That's why I wrote the books.
	I'd rather people read the books so they can get all the everything that I've experienced in their kit.
	That's what I say to people.
	If you want to know about it, either like I've, you know, give them a PDF or give them a book and just go, look, I could sit down for literally a week and go on about this.
	And I'm sort of sick of it to the point going on about it.
	Because I did at a few stages.
	My dad was a cop for 38 years and he was blown out by it.
	Your dad was a cop for 38 years.
	Yeah, and he was a bit blown out, like a police officer, and he was a bit blown out by all this.
	Hey, listen, so was my dad.
	So was my dad, very practical guy.
	But, you know, my dad had experienced ghosts and stuff like that.
	So I guess your dad came round to understanding it, did he?
	Yeah, he's borderline, but if I didn't have the support I've got from a couple of mates in my family, I don't know where I'd be because I thought I was going insane.
	Like, literally.
	Well, you know, there would be people, and there are going to be people who will say, well, this guy's obviously got some kind of mental imbalance.
	Did you tell anybody like a doctor?
	Have you ever had like a medical opinion on what this might be?
	Yeah, well, I talked to me, doctor, and after looking at my website and talking to me, he goes, you're fine.
	He goes, I can't explain the photos and videos he got.
	But he goes, look, you're fine.
	You've got to deal with it.
	And, you know, all very nice for him to say you've got to deal with it, but of course, he's not the one who's dealing with it.
	You know, you sound to me like an ordinary, decent, Aussie guy, you know.
	Did you ever ask yourself, you must have, why has this come to me?
	Yeah, I was asking that myself for a long time, absolutely long time.
	And that's the thing.
	I've been told that apparently I was being in a higher dimension, I've come reincarnated down dimensions to bring the energy in with thousands of other people.
	And I still doubt it, but that's what I've been told.
	And it sort of explains.
	Hang on, so they've told you you've got a job to do here and you're not the only one who's got a job to do here.
	Yeah, apparently there's people spread it out all over the globe in every city and every town that like there's more people in the cities because there's got to be more energy there.
	I can't explain it any other way except that that's sort of all I could tell you is what I've been told.
	And has she ever told you anything that you know you're treading a very it's a very hard path that you're walking here, Peter, because a lot of people are not going to believe this.
	Of course they're not.
	And, you know, you say people around you.
	I don't expect people to believe me.
	I tell them that.
	I say, look, without UFOs or anything, if you look at all the government documents out there, the government wanting either come forward, you know, I say, go and do your own homework and don't, I don't expect anybody to believe me.
	But I tell people, go and do your own homework.
	If somebody was telling me my story, I would have a very hard time even taking it on board.
	What this brings me to, though, is it would be nice if they had told you something to help you defend yourself when people say, I don't believe this.
	Do they give you any information that you couldn't have known any other way than by hearing it from them, from her?
	No, not really.
	And that's why I'm skeptical about people with dates and channeling beams and all that sort of thing because I don't get dates, times.
	I've been told about earth changes.
	There's been nothing specific.
	It's more like awakening me to who I am and what part of my mission is being here.
	All right.
	And just give me, summarise for me.
	Just tell me what you think the mission is then.
	You gave me an idea of it just a minute ago.
	You said to, you know, it's all about this awakening and there are other people.
	You know, how are you going to go about that mission?
	Well, it's sort of two part.
	I meant to be here also just for energy.
	Just my frequency being here is going to help raise others.
	And the other part of it is I don't, like, with the books and the website and doing some media stuff, they said others will awaken and come to you.
	And I've had some tripped out phone calls to people who told me what's in my sink, where I am in my house and they're on the other side of the country.
	I've got the number come up on my phone from a different area code.
	I've walked around the house while they're talking to me.
	So hang on.
	Let's not lose this point.
	You're saying that after you started doing this and you started getting coverage for it, you had phone calls from people who say that they've had telepathic contact with you.
	They know where you are.
	They know what you're doing.
	Yeah, and they told me that it's all real and stop doubting.
	Stop being stubborn.
	And do you know who those people are and where they are?
	I know where they are and I know who they are.
	I haven't met them in person because we're talking hours away.
	And you're absolutely certain, hand on heart, that they are not winding you up.
	No, because I don't know how people could know how many dishes I've got in my sink and where I'm sitting in my house.
	You sound very calm about it.
	If it was me, I would feel really...
	You sound very, very calm about all this stuff.
	Well, I've got over.
	I was depressed as hell for a while, and I've just got to get over it.
	I've just got to get over it.
	But these people have told me things about me that nobody, not even my best mate or my family knows.
	And they've just told me to stop being stubborn and do what I've got to do.
	I can't explain it any other way.
	And like I've had experiences with the little greys as well, but some of them have been grey, some of them have been brown.
	And I found out that the light blue light being is last, I've never had contact except once with the light blue light being, and I was approached by two of them.
	And one of them stepped forward and said, wear Elohim, don't fear, it's okay.
	And next minute I had three hours missing time.
	Now, Elohim is going to be God or God's in the Bible.
	And people are telling me I'm in contact with angels and God.
	But what I know is that these things are ethereal beings.
	They're not God.
	They've told me that God is in all of us, that we are from God, our actual being, not our physicality, but our actual being.
	And as far as you know, how do they think they're going to change this world?
	How are they going to make us different?
	Apart from making us realize, as they say, who we are, what sort of practical changes do you think they might be trying to make?
	Have they given you any clue about that?
	Well, from what I know is that they've tried going through specific channels in government and hierarchy people throughout society.
	And the media hasn't got hold of it.
	The government is doing nothing about it.
	So they're basically infiltrating on a civilian level, awakening the actual mass.
	That makes a lot of sense.
	So they've been trying to do it another way.
	And they've basically said, we're banging our heads or whatever it is we've got against a brick wall.
	So we're going to have to do it another way.
	We're going to have to go to the people directly.
	Yes, and they can't direct, they can chat to us or whatever, but they can't directly interfere.
	And that's why you're not meant to, from what I can understand, I don't think we're meant to go down dimensions, but because things have been at a standstill, to speak, beings have had to reincarnate down the dimensions to infiltrate and play a part in humanity, in the human body.
	Now, they've also told me that we're the fourth civilization.
	There was Atlantis before us and another two before that, which absolutely blows my mind.
	this kind of comprehend data.
	So we're talking about what the Yeah, and another, like, I can't prove Atlantis, but there's meant to be Atlantis and another two before that, that they've told them, that also declined and that we had abilities in the past and that our DNA was turned down to 10% because we lost the oneness.
	And they didn't, apparently we were seeded by many races and because we lost the oneness, the DNA was turned off each time in each civilization.
	And it's like the fourth time they've had to go through the process again.
	And we're losing the oneness right now.
	And it's up to us.
	This shift is up to us how this turns out.
	It's not up to them.
	They can make us aware, but it's up to humanity to do this.
	And not everything up there is good.
	I can tell you that.
	Okay, that's, well, all right, we'll explore that in just a second.
	But what you're saying is very important.
	You're saying that these other civilizations failed because they didn't realize something.
	They didn't realize their spirituality or whatever.
	And a higher power turned off their DNA.
	In other words, stopped them reproducing, stopped them being.
	And you're being told that that's coming to us if we don't buck our ideas up.
	Yeah?
	yeah, that's a good way to put it in a nutshell.
	Yeah, and when we talk about bucking your ideas up, what do you take that to mean?
	Well, what do you actually mean by that?
	Do you mean like when you can like simplifying it down?
	Well, basically what I mean is, you know, if we if we don't get more spiritual, if we don't realize what we are, where we came from, and where we fit into everything, then we're going to go down like these other civilizations.
	I'm just trying to get a handle on this.
	Yeah, no, well, yeah, I just, I couldn't hear you properly.
	Yeah, no, that's, from my understanding, that's basically it.
	Apparently, this shift has been going on for the last 30, 40 years, and we're only about halfway through it.
	We're seeing more energy now and earth changes.
	And basically, we're at the point now where these things, these realities, these other realities are going to come through.
	But it's up to us to take this on board and to work with it to stop the fighting, to stop the racism, to stop the wars, to stop the riots, to join together as one, because we've lost that oneness.
	There's a chance that it's going to all decline.
	The human civilization is going to decline and we're going to have to re-up again.
	So if we don't work as a team, as a human race, we're going to go down the pan.
	Well, it's a two-way street.
	It's either a path to enlightenment and oneness, or things are going to get more worse than what they are right now.
	And I don't wish that for humanity at all.
	And Peter, you said that there was not just good and caring out there, but there's also bad darkness out there.
	Can you explain that?
	Well, from what my understanding is that we're a connection between a direct connection to universal consciousness and the God source and the angelic realm.
	Now, the ethereal beings people call angels, but they're not angels, they're ethereal beings, but they're basically the same thing that they're talking about in ancient scripts.
	Now, what's happening is this is a project where many civilizations have got together and wanted to create basically an ultimate being in the 3D realm.
	Give me that again.
	You can see they've wanted to create an ultimate being.
	An ultimate being.
	Yeah, in the 3D realm.
	In our third dimension, if you can understand what I'm saying.
	Okay.
	Because we're in the third.
	Yeah.
	So what they didn't expect was all the human emotion and all that once they put all these races together.
	That's why the DNA was turned off because of all our emotion and everything, they didn't expect us to be how we are emotionally.
	And that's where people get, you know, they're all about themselves and they lost the oneness.
	They didn't expect this to be an outcome now.
	So we're an experiment.
	We're their experiment almost and it's gone a bit wrong.
	Yes.
	And what's happening now, from my understanding, is that there are certain grays, not all greys are bad, not all grays are good, but there's greys and other races that are trying to alter our DNA and stuff their project up now.
	If you can understand what I'm saying, that are jealous because we've got abilities that many other beings and extraterrestrial life out there and beings in other dimensions, we've got abilities when our DNA is fully turned on that they can't, we can do things that they can't when our DNA is fully turned on.
	And these other beings are trying to stop that.
	Now, this is important, Peter.
	We're being fought over by these beings, by these races.
	They're fighting over us.
	What can we do about that?
	Well, we can become one again and we're going to get our powers back and it's not going to matter the good beings or the bad beings.
	It's going to be up to us where we go from there if we come back to the oneness.
	To understand how big this project is, I can remember Richard Hoagland saying that when we landed on the moon, it rang like a bell for over an hour once we had a seismograph on there.
	Once they put more seismographs on there, they realised that there was definitely geometric arc-shaped objects a thousand miles underneath the moon's surface.
	And that when they did a core sample, it showed that the moon was exposed, not on the top surface, but once they went down in the core sample further into the actual moon, they found out that the moon had been brought from one solar system to our solar system because it had been exposed to a different sun.
	Now, this whole process has been set up.
	And this is what we know now in our solar system has been set up to create us.
	This is how big, and I don't expect anyone to believe me.
	This is Richard Hoagland's own NASA data that he's come across.
	And that sort of fits in with what I've been told.
	This has all been set up.
	This has all been created.
	For the life that exists in the three dimensions that we've got now, you need the moon, sun, and the earth.
	And the moon needs to be going around the earth at a certain speed because before that, all we had was microbacterial life.
	And then when the moon was brought here, that's when other things were able to exist, like plants and living creatures and humans.
	And what about, have you been told anything about Mars?
	Because we've got the Mars Curiosity mission up there at the moment and some very good pictures coming back.
	Have you been told anything about what Mars is, what it's for and why we're there at the moment?
	No, no.
	All I know is that they're just trying to awaken me to who I am and that we've got to awaken ourselves and that it's up to us individually and as a whole to do it.
	And what do you plan to do next about all of this, Peter?
	Are you going to write another book?
	What's the plan?
	I'll probably write another book in about a year or two about more information that I've gotten since the last two books.
	But besides that, I'm just going to probably do a few radio interviews and that's about it because...
	what about your ordinary working life and your friends and all the rest of it?
	Does everything else go on the back burner because of this?
	No, no, I work at a mountain water distribution plant.
	I'm a production full cleaner eight hours a day.
	So I do that.
	Yeah, I do a lot of exercise.
	I see my family a lot.
	I'm really close to my family.
	So, you know, apart from this, it's a very ordinary life with a very extraordinary part to it.
	Have they just, finally, have you been told anything about what will happen to you?
	And I hope it's a very, very long time from now when you die, when you're not here anymore?
	They're giving you a clue about that?
	My understanding is I'll go back up to where I came from, where I was last, which as you experience life in every single form and way, you gain enlightenment.
	As long as you don't accumulate karma wherever you are, you keep on going up the dimensions, closer back to the God source, and you get more enlightened.
	And from what I've understand, because I've been brought down after this, I'll be brought back up to where I was and I can continue.
	Apparently, being human is meant to be the most hardest thing in the entire universe.
	Yeah, I can go along with that.
	It certainly has been.
	It certainly has been for me and some other people I know too.
	I think this is a challenge.
	We've been put here to be tested, I think, by the looks of a lot of it.
	Listen, the media down there, from what I've seen of your interviews on the TV and stuff, they seem to have been very fair to you, pretty much so.
	They haven't scoffed or laughed at you.
	Yeah, no, as I said, I was expecting so much backlash and everything.
	And as I said, I'm just, from now on, all I know is that those that are meant to come across my website and my books are going, and those people who come across it, they're meant to see that, and it may activate something in them.
	That's what I've been told also that I'm at an activator.
	So you've got to spread the word and you've got to spread it in a language that people understand.
	Listen, Peter, we've had a rotten phone line here.
	It's not even spreading the word.
	It's just putting something out there and those that are meant to come across it will come across it and it will activate something in those who are meant to see it.
	Got it.
	So you're helping them find it.
	Listen, we've had a rotten phone line, unfortunately, to Sydney.
	This is one of the not very good ones.
	So I'm sorry if you're listening to this and it's been a little bit hard to hear, but I wanted to let Peter talk here and introduce him to you.
	And hopefully, Peter, the next time we talk, the phone line will be a bit better.
	If people want to know more about you, what's your website?
	PeterMaxwellSlattery.com.
	That's PetermaxwellSlattery.com.
	That's, yeah, that's it, Correct.
	So if they want anything, they can see a doco I've made there.
	I've got books there.
	I've got all the photos.
	Everything that I've got is up there.
	So every time I accumulate something within a day or two, it's usually chucked up straight away.
	I'm not hiding nothing.
	If anybody wants anything, it's all sitting there.
	They can debunk it.
	They can look at it.
	They can love it.
	They can like it.
	They can hate it.
	It doesn't matter.
	Everything that I've got is up there.
	Nice to talk with you, Peter, and I'm glad that you got in touch with me.
	And I think you're a very lucky man to live where you live.
	And tell me when the next book is coming up.
	We'll talk again, yeah?
	Yeah, I'll say probably at least another year and a half, I reckon.
	Because there's something happening every month.
	All right, every couple of six months.
	Well, if you've got anything important to say to us, anything to add to it, you know, don't wait for the next book.
	Send me an email and I'll stick you on.
	Peter, thank you very, very much.
	And I'm sorry about the phone line being like this, but I think we've heard you pretty okay.
	Thanks very much, Peter.
	That's fine.
	Thank you very much for having me.
	Take care, Peter.
	All the best.
	Have a good day.
	Cheers, mate.
	Bye.
	Peter Maxwell Slattery's the man's name.
	His website, petermaxwellslattery.com.
	And I'm really sorry about the phone line.
	That was the best after trying a few times that we could get hold of, and we couldn't do a digital connection either.
	But I just thought it was worth letting him talk, and I could understand what he was saying.
	Hope you can too.
	But I'm sorry if it was a bit of a trial.
	But I think worth hearing.
	You know, first time we've heard talk like that.
	Certainly first time I've heard talk like that coming out of Australia.
	So, you know, we're breaking new ground and discovering a bit of new territory here at the Unexplained.
	Thank you to Adam Cornwell, a creative hotspot in Liverpool as ever for getting the show out to you.
	Thank you very much to you for listening to the show.
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	And if you want to give me a donation or just send me some, you know, email, just anything, let me know that you're there, then go to the website, www.theunexplained.tv, www.theunexplained.tv.
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