Piers Morgan and Brett Cooper dissect Justin Bieber's legal battle with Scooter Braun, highlighting the toll on his creativity while debunking Diddy exploitation rumors. They praise Donald Trump's natural comic timing despite policy disagreements, critique OnlyFans for demoralizing young women by commodifying bodies, and label a recent all-female space flight as a failed feminist moment rather than genuine equality. Cooper concludes by announcing her pregnancy and scaling back podcast output to prioritize motherhood, shifting from ten weekly episodes to two longer-form discussions. [Automatically generated summary]
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The Weight of Control00:10:49
We're watching a man fight behind the scenes.
It is taking a major toll on his life, on his family, on his soul.
He's trying to get people riled up.
You started that.
You're the one who put it in the New York Times, so you don't get to sit here and say, oh, I don't want people in my business.
I don't want them to know because you're taking it too far.
That's not a feminist moment.
Just go up there and enjoy it and have a great time and be rich.
I made my decision to proceed with OnlyFans upon my own discretion.
You are also taking advantage of the men who are subscribing to you because you know that this is a vice of theirs and you're feeding into it for your own financial gain.
And then I said, you know what I'll do?
I'll run again and I'll shove it up their ass.
You can't admit that he's not funny, that he's not having a great time.
You're pregnant.
I am.
Yes.
This is very exciting.
Yes, thank you.
Justin Bieber has long been plagued by rumors that he was exploited by Diddy, which many social media sleuths have connected to his recent troubling public appearances.
This was an appearance on Jimmy Kimmel's show in 2011.
He knows better than me talking about the things that he does with Big Brother Puff on national television.
And this clip of Diddy appearing to pat him down as if searching for a secret recording device.
Well, now Justin Bieber has quashed these claims and rumors, recent statement where he said Justin is not among Sean Combs' victims.
There are individuals who are genuinely harmed by him, shifting focus away from this reality detracts from the justice these victims rightfully deserve.
Well, the pop superstars concerned his many fans with some alarming public appearance of recently, according to TMZ, was forced to sell his music catalogue after blowing his entire fortune.
Well, Brett Cooper, host of the Brett Cooper show, has followed Bieber's travails closely for her take on this and more.
She makes her debut on Uncensored.
Brett, how lovely to have you.
I'm so happy to be here.
Thank you for having me.
Well, first of all, let's discuss the Brett Cooper phenomenon.
Never mind, Justin Bieber.
You've kind of exploded this year.
Why?
Oh, gosh.
You know, I think people really look for humor and they look for common sense in a very, very chaotic, insane world.
And that's what I've hopefully been able to provide for the last couple of years.
And I went out on my own starting in January of this year and we launched the Brett Cooper show.
And we're doing a couple episodes a week and we're touching on politics and culture and finding sense in all of it.
And I'm so grateful to be here.
Well, yeah, I went off on my own in January.
So I've been following your development with great interest and you've been highly successful.
One of the things you've done a lot on is Justin Bieber.
I pumped into Bieber over the years.
I met him at an Oscar's party when he was very, still very young teenager.
I remember him being incredibly polite, called me Mr. Morgan, shook me firmly by the hand, looked me in the eye.
I remember thinking you were a well-brought up young man.
And then one of my sons bumped into him recently in Los Angeles at a gym and he just looked slightly out of it.
There were paparazzi, obviously, everywhere as there always are with him.
He didn't look a happy guy.
He looked like someone with the weight of the world upon him.
And many people have assumed that this has all been to do with what's going on with Sean Combs, Diddy.
But that has now been put to bed by Bieber himself.
So it does prompt the question, what is causing, do you think, all the issues that Bieber's having?
I mean, it goes so much deeper than just Diddy.
And I think obviously that is a weight on him because he has now been involved in this.
People have been speculating for months, if not years, about that.
So I know that that has been heavy for him to handle.
But I have spent the last month or so getting to know people that are close to Justin.
And interestingly, we've had similar to you, you know, our lives have kind of been interwoven.
Like I was a theater kid when I was younger.
And so my voice teacher was at the same studio where he took lessons back in Atlanta when he was a teenager.
And so I've just been around him and people that have been close to him for years and years and years up until this point.
And in the conversations that I've been having recently, there's just so much that has been going on behind the scenes that people are just now learning about, most notably due to his break with his longtime manager, Scooter Braun, who he unfollowed at the beginning of this year, who we know thanks to the press that he has been in a legal battle with for multiple years to try to get out of the contract that he signed when he was 13 years old.
And so we're watching a man fight behind the scenes for his freedom.
And I can tell you based on the people that I've talked to and the things that I know now that it is a, this is not just a normal legal battle.
This has been going on for a long time.
It is very multifaceted.
It is taking a major toll on his life, on his family, on his soul, on his creativity.
It is impacting every single aspect of his business and what he is actually able to do.
And then on top of that, he is being absolutely hounded by the paparazzi.
And Pierce, I think you know this, but the paparazzi is not what it was in the early 2000s.
This is not, you know, Britney Spears-era paparazzi.
And it's insane to see these, you know, throngs of people surrounding him no matter where he goes.
And so you see him lashing out and saying, just leave me alone.
It's like, obviously.
And understanding the context of that, it makes complete sense that we're seeing somebody who is struggling because he's fighting with every fiber of his being to protect his family and protect his work and his future career.
Yeah, I mean, Scooter Braun, I had a few run-ins with him.
I mean, he's a monumental douchebag of biblical proportions from my experience.
So it doesn't surprise me at all that he's trying to, you know, screw Justin in terms of this contract situation.
But is it just that?
Or, I mean, you know, famously, Justin's had a lot of issues with his family and people that have come in and out of the family and so on.
How much of that has played a role?
And how much is it just the fact that when you're a superstar at his young age, as he was on that level, a sort of stratospheric one of the top five most famous people on earth at one stage?
You know, how easy is it to migrate to just normal adult life anyway?
Never mind anything else.
I think it's so complicated.
And we've watched this time and time again with so many young people.
I mean, we just saw Demi Lovato go through it.
She was somebody who worked with Scooter Braun for years and years and years and they had up falling out and got back together, all of this different stuff.
I mean, we've seen it with so many child stars.
And there's very, very few of them who reached any level of fame that is close to Justin's that I think made it out unscathed.
And I think that that is what he is fighting to protect now that he is a father.
And I think it's, you know, one thing that people should know is that he is now surrounded by a great community, a great, you know, group of friends, a great work community, people that he trusts for the first time in years.
Because for the majority of his career, everything surrounded Scooter Braun because Scooter was not only his manager, but he also owned the label where Justin was signed.
He was also a board member on Justin's clothing company.
Every single thing went through Scooter.
Everybody reported to Scooter.
And so for the first time, literally since the beginning of his career, Justin actually has a say in who he's bringing on.
And he's able to trust them and know that they actually have his best interests at heart.
So I think that is a huge transformation.
So we're also seeing this man who, for the first time in his life, has real autonomy over his work and over his creativity.
And I think that's exciting for him, but it's also being hindered by the fact that he is still, you know, involved in these legal battles, which are obviously being reported day in and day out.
You know, it's interesting.
I was a biographer for a British band called Take That, who were the British response to New Kids on the Block when New Kids on the Block became this teenage sensation around the world.
And I cover them as well.
But I remember following what happened with the Take That guys.
They were huge pretty much everywhere apart from America.
And then one of their group, Robbie Williams, broke free.
There's just been a big movie about him and his life that he's been involved with.
And, you know, I look at what happened to him.
I look at what happened to Liam Payne from One Direction.
Again, a band that I knew quite well.
I look at what happened with Michael Jackson, to Justin Bieber, to Britney Spears.
There's a whole litany of people who become incredibly famous and, of course, very rich and successful and famous being the worst drug of all, from my estimation for some of these people.
And then they just really fall apart when they become adults.
And, you know, partly it can be self-inflicted, you know, drugs and alcohol and all the normal vices that go with great wealth and fame when you're young because you want to go partying.
But partly it's often the people around them, you know, who are manipulating them and driving them too hard and don't really care enough about them.
As Candace Owens called it, called Hollywood satanic in the way that it gets its grip on young people.
How would you categorize it?
I think that, I mean, I think she hit the nail on the head there, but it's so, it's all exploitation on every single level.
And I think one thing that I've experienced and you might have also experienced, Pierce, that, you know, people can imagine on a much broader scale is that it's very weird when, you know, you're a human being, you're an individual.
You are somebody that your spouse knows, that your parents know, but you are also a brand that people work for.
And that is a very, very odd thing just in terms of, you know, psychology and being a human being to wrap your brain around.
And so to imagine that on a scale of a Liam Payne or a Michael Jackson or a Justin Bieber, where you have all these people working for you, but it almost, you know, it can easily be, you know, swapped and manipulated to be at your expense because they kind of forget that there's a human being at the core of this and you become a workhorse and your feelings and your health is not taken into account.
And I think we've seen this time and time again, like you've said, and I think it's very easy to fall into those traps, especially when you don't trust people around you.
And something that has been so interesting to me as I've been diving into this whole Justin Bieber story is that there is a through line here with him.
And that is the business manager, Lou Taylor, who worked with him for not very long, but was brought in after he had fired a bunch of people.
That is the same Lou Taylor that worked with Brittany Spears for years that allegedly got her into the conservatorship.
She is the one that Brittany wrote about in her book.
She is the same Lou Taylor that Lindsay Lohan's family alleged was the one that was trying to get Lindsay Lohan into a conservatorship.
I mean, she is linked to all of these celebrities who have had massive downfalls and massive spirals.
And you can just see that there are people who manipulate their, you know, place in this industry and their role in a figure's life where a business manager has so much control.
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And I think that that is what Justin is basically just trying to, you know, push back against it every single turn because he's seen it happen so many times and he's trying to protect Haley and protect their son as much as he can.
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Have you heard from him?
I mean, you must be aware of you out there talking about him a lot and how influential you now are.
As he picked the phone up and said, hey, Brett, remember me from the old vocal studio when we were kids?
I haven't spoken to him directly, but I have become very acquainted with many people close to him.
And what I know from them is that obviously this is a very hard time and everything that he is going through is weighing on him deeply.
He's really excited about his new clothing company, Skylark, which he just released and debuted very recently, just a couple of weeks ago.
So he finally has something creatively that he can pour his heart into.
I know he's working on trying to make new music, which obviously is caught up in these contract negotiations, but he is doing everything he can to protect himself, to protect his peace, to protect his faith.
Excitement Amidst Chaos00:09:24
And I think that that is an uphill battle for sure.
And he has a great, great support system.
There's so many media attacks, even just on his marriage and with Haley.
And you see all the things come out about, you know, Selena versus Haley, which I look at all of the stories and I just laugh because it almost seems like both women have just kind of tried to, you know, push back against those and say, we don't even want to be involved in these fights.
And I think they go after her because they know that that will impact him more than anything, because it's the love of his life.
It's his wife.
It's the mother of his child.
And if now she is in harm's way, that's going to impact him even more.
So he's facing a lot.
I know he's grateful for the support.
He's grateful for people, you know, saying, free Justin and being on his side and being excited about his new endeavors.
So I know that he's watching and he's listening and he's very grateful.
He's probably watching this, in which case, Justin, you know what you should do?
You should do a big interview on Uncensored.
Get it all off your chest.
Better out than in, as my mother would always say.
An interesting coincidence was that you said, I think recently, that there was a malevolent kind of PR PSYOP campaign waged against him by a PR company that represents Scooter Braun, surprise, surprise.
And in the you can't make this up coincidence category, the same PR company you've said also represents Blake Lively in her battle against Justin Baldoni.
Now that case I find utterly riveting for its sheer apparent futility and self-harm that is going on because the more it seems to me that Blake Lively, I don't know her at all.
I don't know any of them actually.
Initially I was very sympathetic to her and I saw the first allegations made or whatever.
As it's gone on, I'm just like someone at some stage needs to explain to both Blake Lively and Ryan Reynolds, this is not working out very well.
They're not winning the court of public opinion.
And however much they think they're going to claw it back when all the dirty laundry gets aired, I just think it's a real lose-lose for them.
And I don't really understand why at the top of their game, the pair of them, they want to risk everything for this.
It makes no sense.
It makes no sense.
And I, you know, I completely agree.
I think that they have lost the court of public opinion.
And I'm sure that they look at that and are angry and they want this to be decided in the courts and they're going to figure all this out.
But I have no sympathy because they're the ones who brought it publicly first.
They're the ones who went to the New York Times.
They made this a public spectacle.
So if you don't want this to be a public spectacle, and I've read different responses from their attorneys, different statements that they've given where they basically try to walk all that back and say, Brian Friedman, who is Justin Beldoni's lawyer, like he's making this into a PR thing.
He's trying to get people riled up.
You started that.
You're the one who put it in the New York Times.
So you don't get to sit here and say, oh, I don't want people in my business.
I don't want them to know this.
You're taking it too far.
You started this war.
You put it in the largest newspaper on earth, basically.
And we're running with it.
And obviously, Justin is going to fight back.
He's going to slap you with that, you know, 400 million defamation suit.
Because if what you're saying is not accurate, then that is what it is.
Then it is defamation and he has a right to fight back.
And every single thing that comes out is just digging a hole deeper and deeper for them.
And so I've known I completely agree.
Whoever was giving them advice, it was terrible.
If it's the same PR company that is locked up with a scooter, I mean, it's just, it is crazy.
Talking of crazy, many people think Donald Trump is crazy.
I'm not one of them.
I saw him in the Middle East last week, a state dinner that was had in his honor.
Had a good laugh with him.
I think he's enjoying himself second time around.
I think he's feeling very liberated.
I think he feels he got a second chance at life when he got nearly assassinated, a second chance at the presidency when many thought he was dead politically as well.
I think he's rather enjoying the slightly chaotic ride he's on.
And a lot of it may work.
He has a sort of blunt way of dealing with stuff, which I think can be very effective.
But you hit on something really perceptive, I thought.
I don't mean to be patronizing when I say that.
I'm genuinely admiring of this.
You said Trump, the comedian, you said on X, is a generational talent.
And I thought you absolutely hit the nail on the head.
Is a lot of people, especially young people.
My sons, 31, 27, 24, they find him hilarious.
He's a genuinely funny guy.
Now, that doesn't excuse some of the stuff he does, which I completely disagree with, or that he gets wrong, or some of the way he talks about any of those things.
It's just he also is.
He has natural comic timing.
He's very sharp in the moment and very funny.
And you can't get away from it.
And when I see liberals, my sort of more woke liberal friends, when I see them trying so hard not to laugh, it's almost like they're trying not to literally bust a gut.
You know, they're just trying too hard not to laugh.
When he's just, just laugh.
It's funny.
Yeah.
And I think that that really is what's missing from our culture and from society is that you can hate the man, but he is exactly what he says that he is.
He's never tried to be anything he's not.
And so you can dislike his policies.
You can disagree with him.
You could not want to vote for him, but you can't admit that he's not funny, that he's not having a great time.
I think that you are absolutely correct.
I did an interview with Laura Trump just a couple of months ago and I was talking with her and I was like, how is he doing?
And she was like, Brett, he's better than ever.
You're like having so much fun.
He's truly enjoying this.
The weight has been lifted.
He feels like he has a second chance.
He has so many great ideas.
He knows what he's doing.
And he's genuinely just having fun.
And I see that every single day, whether it's with, you know, an interaction that he has with a reporter or something that he's posted on Truth Social.
And I think that that really spoke to young people because during the campaign, his team day in and day out was on X, was on TikTok, was out making memes and amplifying how funny.
And you would read the comments.
And all of these young people, whether it was, you know, just a TikTok or it was the entire, you know, hilarity of him being in a dump truck or whatever it was or serving at McDonald's, they just couldn't look away.
Because for the first time, young people were saying, this is somebody I can actually relate to.
He's not pandering to me.
He's not talking to me.
He's not trying to convince me of something using manipulative tactics.
He's just a guy having fun telling us what he actually thinks.
And I think that that really spoke to people.
And, you know, I think humor can move mountains.
It can save lives and, you know, turn the world around.
And I see that with him every single day.
So I'm going to say that.
I agree.
You know, he said the thing the other day.
He was asked by an interviewer, you know, what do you do to stay healthy?
And famously, he's never had an alcoholic drink.
He's never had a drug.
He's never had a cigarette.
So, which is why he's got so much energy probably for a 78-year-old guy.
But he said, you know, I try and watch what I eat.
And she said, but you like burgers.
He went, I do like burgers, but I get now healthy burgers.
He probably does get the healthiest burgers ever cooked in America from his White House chefs.
But he said, you know, the interesting thing, he said, and I was already laughing, guessing where he might go.
He said, you know, so many people who've sort of told me that I should be eating this, this, this, and this, and not drinking this and not eating that.
He said, they're no longer with us.
They've passed.
And I was like, it's just, it was laugh out loud, funny.
In other words, all the do-gooders who told me to stop eating burgers are dead.
They've all died younger than me is what he really was saying.
And it was just bloody funny.
And I was just like rolling around laughing, going, it's just going to annoy all the right people who've lost the ability to laugh at stuff.
And he knows he's funny.
And he knows, and he enjoys it because he has his eye and he knows that he's going to hit on all of the right points and he has the great timing.
And again, there's, you know, this entire understanding of our bodykeeping score and our, you know, our mental health truly dictating our physical health.
And this man, he has had so much joy in his life.
He has a great family.
He has a great relationship with his kids.
He has a great relationship with his grandkids.
He has a, you know, until 2016, he had a huge community of friends and was beloved.
I think now he has that again.
This is a man with a very full life who genuinely enjoys what he's doing.
And I don't, the Diet Cokes and the burgers are going to kill him at all.
So I think it's a good time.
And that probably means more than cutting out the burgers.
Yeah, he said he doesn't go to the gym because he doesn't want to waste energy.
He conserves his energy.
So he has a lot of energy.
I mean, one of his White House aides told me in Qatar last week that when he's at the White House, when he's in Washington, he does 13 hours a day every day.
That's what he does.
78 years old.
I mean, it's pretty impressive, you know.
Now, unlike Joe Biden, no one ever looks at him and thinks, well, what's happened to your energy?
Why are you falling asleep?
Blah, blah, blah.
Notwithstanding, obviously, the news about Joe Biden's health.
But before it was like he looked so tired all the time.
Whereas Trump never ever exudes that air other than just full of energy, which is an extraordinary achievement for that age.
You know, Biden always looked tired, yet he was always on vacation.
Never was it.
Always on the beach.
Any other human being.
And he looked exhausted.
I was like, something's not adding up.
Now, you're doing extremely well financially, I've read.
I'm very envious.
You're doing it, I think, in a really smart way.
You're being smart.
You're being funny.
Selling Out the Audience00:09:14
You're being informed.
You're being relatable.
Young people in particular gravitate to your big numbers because they just like the fact.
Also, they like the humor that you bring to it.
You don't seem to take anything overly seriously.
I always say to my kids, you know, outside of death and terminal illness, don't worry about stuff too much.
Right.
It just, nothing's going to be that important other than death and terminal illness.
So if you haven't got either of those things, you'll be fine.
Whatever you end up doing, that's the worst that can happen.
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You touched on something which I thought was really interesting.
A lot of women these days are on OnlyFans, and they're making millions of dollars, millions of pounds.
And they're basically just selling themselves as women having sex with 100 men, 1,000 men, whatever it is.
They're feet fetishes.
There's this, that, the other.
It's become a kind of licensed porn site, really, in many ways.
What is it?
They would say, well, I'm allowed to do what I want with my body.
Of course they are, right?
Anyone can do what they want with their body.
It doesn't mean we can't be slightly judgmental about the way some of them go about it.
Is it dispiriting to you to see so many young people of your age, women, who go down that road when they could, they obviously, some of them are very smart business brains.
They could apply that, I would argue, in a more, more worthwhile and less tawdry manner.
Oh, for sure.
It is demoralizing.
And I think the most demoralizing part of it is that they think that there are no other options.
The most recent episode that I did about this was when I was talking about Denise Richards and Charlie Sheen's daughter, who started at OnlyFans on her 18th birthday.
And I think it was less than two months later.
Denise said, well, I want to be a part of this.
And so Denise Richards then put herself on OnlyFans.
You have this mother-daughter OnlyFans duo, which is just truly insane.
But their daughter, whose name is Sammy Sheen, she did an interview for their reality show and she said, well, I wanted to move out and I was working at a candy store and I just wasn't making enough money.
So this seemed like the next best option.
It's like there's nothing in between working a summer job at a candy store or starting in OnlyFans.
And I think we've had this warped perception that has been given to young people, to young women.
It's like, hey, this is an easy way out.
Just go make millions.
But Pierce, the thing is, you know, only 1% of creators on OnlyFans are actually making millions and millions of dollars.
The women are not making much money.
And so they're selling their bodies online.
They are giving ownership of their bodies to OnlyFans because that is how the platform works.
They, you know, own your content.
You're putting that out there forever.
And you're calling that liberation.
And you're saying, well, maybe I have a shot at being that 1% and making millions and millions and millions, but really it's just demoralizing and you're selling yourself truly.
And I also look at it from the men's perspective where it's like you are also taking advantage of the men who are subscribing to you because you know that this is a vice of theirs and you're feeding into it for your own financial gain.
And so I think on both sides, the consumption and the creation, it is just so detrimental to our society.
And it's so unfortunate that we have told young people that it is completely appropriate, that we've told young people.
My problem, my problem, and this might run slightly contrary to, I think, your view of the particular person I'm about to talk about, but I will come to her defense.
Katie Perry, one of our more illustrious astronauts of modern times.
Well, I met her a couple of times, always really liked her.
And she's a fantastic pop star.
There's no doubt about that.
And she may not be having quite the ascendancy she had before, but she's still a huge name and a huge singing star.
And the two things about the astronaut thing, I get why everyone was mocking it.
Fine.
But I also know that when William Shatner did it, I led the cheerleading and said how brilliant it was in exactly the same space rocket or same model for the same people going up to the same bit of space for the same amount of time.
And I said, isn't this groundbreaking and brilliant and exciting?
Because a bunch of women did it.
Suddenly it's all disgusting and embarrassing and shameful.
What were they thinking?
And also because I wouldn't have the balls to do that.
I would not want to get in one of those rockets and get fired even for 11 minutes.
Would you?
I mean, would you get in one of those things?
Right.
So on a human level, you've got to admire the guts, right?
I mean, so I think she's a massive star, great singer, great dancer, great performer, and a much braver astronaut than I'd ever be.
So I'm not entirely sure why OnlyFans, strippers, and worse get a pass.
And poor old Katy Perry's getting it in the neck.
Oh, for sure.
And I think that the thing that struck me about the entire astronaut situation and that whole scandal was not that it was just a bunch of women going to space, because similar to you, when William Shatner did it, it's like, okay, that's cool.
You know, Jameis Winston is going, I think that he is on the next, the next Blue Origin ride with Angel Reese.
There's already, you know, a whole other Tom Cruise is going with it, which I'm excited to see.
But I think what made this one different is that they were trying to make it some feminist moment.
It's like you're not changing the world by going on a joyride.
If they had just said, super excited, if Katie Berry had just come out and said, guys, I have loved space ever since I was a kid.
This is so cool.
I'm really excited.
I can't wait to go with all my girls.
Rather than saying like, we're showing women how to take up space.
Like, are you kidding me?
You're a bunch of millionaires and billionaires going up in a, you know, glorified, very dangerous, I would not do a theme park ride.
It's like a, you know, carnival ride I would never get on.
But that's not a feminist moment.
Just go up there and enjoy it and have a great time and be rich and show us what it's like to be super rich and be able to do these things that we'll never do rather than making it some moralist, you know, I agree.
It wasn't one giant leap for feminism because it's basically six extremely wealthy, privileged women who got lucky because they, you know, Jeff Bezos could put them up there.
And I like most of the women, the ones I know who took part.
And I just think they didn't quite think that narrative through and they should have taken maybe they should just call you next time, ask you.
What will young people think of this?
Yeah.
But I'm glad that they had a good time and I'm glad that they arrived home safely.
That's the main thing.
I agree.
And to reiterate, I would not have the courage to do it.
So I admire them for that.
And finally, you're pregnant.
I am.
Yes.
This is very exciting.
Yes.
Thank you.
We're very, very excited.
So I hear you're going to call the baby peers, whether it's a boy or girl.
Exactly.
Yes.
Great job.
But in all seriousness, I mean, at the moment, your career is completely exploding and getting more and more popular.
Are you, have you worked out how you're going to do the whole work-life thing when it happens?
You know, I think that that's something that we'll take day by day, but that was a big factor in me changing the way that I do my work because prior to going out on my own, I was doing two episodes a day.
So I was doing 10 episodes a week, chasing the daily news cycle, which I loved.
And there's part of me that does miss that and misses the high of that and how punchy and fun the content was.
And I know that there are many people in my audience and people who watch my content that do miss the fact that it's like, oh, you know, every day she was on top of the news and she got to it before everybody else.
It was so great we missed that.
And I definitely understand that, but that was a very intentional choice that I made of saying, I'm going to scale back to doing two episodes a week and they'll be longer form, which is something that I'd wanted to do for a while.
And I'll be able to have total control over what I am doing and what I'm saying, which is what I had wanted and to be able to build out the team myself.
But that also gives me my personal life back in a really meaningful way.
And I think right now, and when we were starting in January, that felt less necessary, but I already knew that I was pregnant at that time.
So I was thinking ahead going, this is why I'm doing this.
I am, you know, taking a stand and I'm saying, you know, I'm not going to overextend myself because I know the type of mom that I want to be.
You know, my mom is my hero.
I adore her.
She was a stay-at-home mom.
For the most part, she had different jobs that she did throughout us being raised and would, you know, write for the local newspaper and worked on many different nonprofits and always had things going on in her life, but they enriched her life.
But we were always the center, and I want to make sure that I offer that to my children.
And so that was a big decision in saying we're going to completely change the way that we're doing things because this is what I want to be the priority.
And I love what I do, I love what I get to do, and I want to be able to continue that and grow it.
But that was the line that I drew in the sand of making sure that I took my life back in that regard.
I think that's a very sensible line to draw in the sand.
It's been great talking to you, Brett Cooper.
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Finally, thank you very much for coming on Uncensored.
We will always have room for you.
If you get bored with the diaper changing, you know where to find me.
I love it.
Thank you so much, Pierce.
And best of luck with it all.
Thank you.
I've had four kids.
It's the best thing that'll ever happen to you.
Trust me.
I'm so glad.
I'm really, really excited.
Good luck.
Take care.
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