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Britain's Summer of Strife 00:01:53
Tonight on Piers Morgan Uncensored with me, Jeremy Kyle, the summer of strife.
Food prices are surging and now a plague of deadly wasps is bound for Britain.
Our panelists, some tips on how you can at least avoid being stung at the supermarket checkout.
Also tonight, how to raise a billionaire.
Elon Musk's dad Errol joins me exclusively.
Plus the Premier League is back and so is Big Sam Allardyce.
He's here live with some blistering advice for current England boss, Gareth Southgate.
Good evening, my friends, and welcome to Piers Morgan Uncensored with me, Jeremy Carr.
The big man still away on his summer break but we'll do our best to bring you the usual fistful of big interviews and feisty debates and to tell you the truth I'm rather getting used to filling in for Morgan.
I've started arguing with myself in the mirror when I get out of the shower.
I had a nightmare about Megan Markle last night.
Certain cabinet ministers have started crossing the road in terror to avoid me.
And most notably my friends, I've broken the habit of a lifetime today.
I've started Twittering, whatever that means.
Look at this, there I am at J. Kyle Official.
Like an intercity express, you'll find me on all platforms, but I will arrive on time and I'm self-driven.
My tin hat's on, so use me and abuse me.
More of the former if you don't mind.
But importantly, I really would love to hear from you because all of this week we're bringing you analysis and expert insights on Britain's summer of strife, the cost of living crisis.
We'll talk food, we'll talk energy prices, transport and much, much more.
And we want to know how you're coping and actually not.
So please do not be shy.
Rising Food Costs and Tips 00:13:05
Right, first tonight, the cost of living crisis and what to do about it.
New data today from the post office reveals that as the summer heats up, more and more people are going back to cold, hard cash.
The post office handled more than 800 million quid in personal cash withdrawals in July, the most since records began, and a spike of 20% on last year.
Thought to be due quite literally to people counting the pennies and helping themselves to budget.
Surely just another sign of a creeping crisis that is engulfing every single one of us.
Today we're going to talk about the surging price of food and joining me now are restaurateur and celebrity chef Anthony Worrell Thompson and financial expert Gemma Godfrey.
Guys, welcome.
We were talking there in the introduction.
Start with you Anthony.
It's not getting any easier is it?
No, no, it's not.
I mean everywhere you go.
I mean I've got restaurants.
I mean the prices have gone absolutely skyrocketing.
I mean it's not just the fuel to just take a 20 litre tub of oil $17.99 to $42.99.
Unbelievable.
Lamb up a third, beef up more than a third.
And that's going to be reflected in the supermarket as well.
You know they do try and keep their prices down but they're being charged the prices.
So as a restaurateur your prices are going up and and you know that's because your suppliers prices are going up.
Absolutely.
And what is it telling you?
What about business?
Are less and less people eating out?
I mean I was in a restaurant on Saturday night with my kids and it was ridiculous.
It took hours.
It took two hours and the guy said to me Jez, there's no staff.
There's no suppliers.
We're really, really struggling.
It is tough.
I think we're lucky.
I think we've become a destination restaurant so people are going out for anniversaries, birthdays, that sort of thing.
I think what's cut back is the everyday eating where people would maybe eat out two or three times a week as a matter of course.
And I think now it's going to move much more to celebrity stuff where you're really enjoying the occasion.
It's a special occasion, you know.
And food prices, I mean, there's going to be a lot of restaurants from our point of view who go down the tubes, you know?
What about people who wouldn't be able to afford to go to a restaurant?
We're talking about everyday foodstuffs.
We're talking about prices going through the roof in all levels of supermarkets.
We've talked about Ukraine and grain, but what is we talked about a host pipe bam the other day and crops dying and that.
What is essentially causing this and what hope can we give?
I think a lot of people are jumping on the bandwagon, personally.
I mean, you know, logistics have gone up, transports have gone big time, staff wages have gone up a lot more than they say they have in the press, from my point of view.
And I think it's obviously, you know, utilities, massive.
People aren't, they're not dropping their rents.
It's just, and also the Ukraine war obviously is putting a huge...
I've got one question.
You know, when prices go up and suppliers and restaurateurs and supermarkets increase their prices, and I mean this respectfully, when it balances itself out and prices lower then, do supermarkets and restaurants show the reduction as quickly as they show the increase?
No, I've got a nasty feeling they won't.
You know, when they drop the VAT in restaurants, you didn't notice many price drops in the restaurants, you know, when people dropped the VAT.
It's going to be a tough one.
I mean, you know, just as a vicious example, I mean, our utilities, we used to pay 12 grand.
Now we're paying 37 to 40 grand.
It's ridiculous.
Gemma Godfrey's going to join me every day this week, financial expert.
And actually, we were talking last week and you said, I try and give people tips.
And in the past, maybe people would have thought, what's the point?
But it's becoming real.
And, you know, people will say to me, oh, why are you peddling this?
Because it's true, right?
It is.
It's absolutely critical.
I mean, we're going to see, in the wintertime, we're going to see families trying to choose between feeding their families or staying warm.
And when you're looking at those edges, it means that these small changes can make a difference.
And there are lots of people that are struggling.
But there are things that people could do.
I mean, there's a website, there's a government website where they've got, it's called Help for Household, and they've actually put a lot of the deals there.
So, for example, you've got all the deals the supermarkets are making, you know, feed your family for a fiver, those types of deals.
So that's a good place to start.
Okay, let's not get stung.
There's also beware of, don't go to convenience stores because you pay for the convenience.
But also then, don't travel too far where you're paying too much in petrol.
And then be careful of loyalty programmes, compare them.
And I think the last one is, we talk about prices increasing.
What we're not talking about is sizes shrinking.
It's that for the same thing, you're going out and you're not getting as much as you used to.
16 million households will fall into food poverty.
Let's just leave that out there.
That's just...
Crazy.
And I don't, you know, listen, we can be as political or non-political as we want.
Is it time for the government?
Lots of stuff today.
You know, Johnson's on holiday, the government's paralysed.
We're waiting for this leadership debate.
I'll nail my colours.
I think it's ludicrous.
But Boris Johnson can't win, can he?
Because they told him not to do anything fiscally because he's not the prime minister.
And if he did get involved, but should we not be doing something?
Should there not be some sort of help right now from the government?
Yeah, there should be some form of support because what we're hearing now is about tax cuts.
They'll come later on.
What people actually need is people are living hand to mouth.
And I think one area where we could have an improvement is around waste.
I mean, we tend to waste about a quarter of our food.
Well, I'm going to, I want to say this to you, Anthony, because everybody goes on about food wastage.
There is always going to be food wastage.
How can we not recycle the wrong word?
How can we not be making that more available to the people that need it?
Well, yeah, I mean, that's one thing, but the key is also shopping when you need it, not thinking, oh, I might need it.
You know, don't do the big shop anymore.
Okay, it's going to use a little bit more petrol, maybe, but buy things as you need them, fresh things.
But there's also another idea.
What you could do is if you take your weekly food shop, you take your receipt, you put it on your fridge, and then every time at the end of the week you've actually thrown something away, you cross it off, and then you end up with a list of just the items you need.
Can I say something that would come from my mum, God rest her soul, but this probably wouldn't be popular with everybody.
Is it time that there is a crisis?
I absolutely accept that.
But should not more families be advised, helped, shown to go back to basics.
Are we not, also if we're honest, a society that is using convenience foods and not doing what they did in the old days without wanting to sound ancient, right?
I personally think they should tax what I call unnecessary food.
So all processed foods, all foods that are ready meals, and make people have to pay.
If they want convenience like that, they want to be lazy.
They don't want to cook.
tax them on that.
And I think, but the essentials in life, we should draw up a list of what's essential.
And ideally, we should do deals with supermarkets.
Those prices can come down.
I mean, supermarkets have been getting rid of a lot of their sort of value ranges, which is wrong.
They should be bringing those back and trying to help the impoverished families, you know.
You were going to say something there.
What do you make of that?
Well, I think the only challenge is hard working.
There are lots of, you know, single parent families, hard-working families that have been pushed down to using convenience food and it isn't as healthy and they're getting into that rut.
So I think there are a lot of families out there that don't know where to turn.
They've been told to do ready meals.
Now they're not healthy.
Now those prices are going up.
And we heard today a certain supermarket has brought out a value range and because they coloured it yellow and yellow is known for reduced, they're getting a lot of backlash that people are now embarrassed to use it rather than it being promoted as a way to save money.
This is going to affect everybody, students, care homes, all sorts of people.
And as I say, we do this.
We're going to do this cost of living crisis every single week, Gemma, every night this week and we're going to look at different parts.
But food, we had the chairman of the president of the NFU on Friday and he was saying, you know, this drought, this lack of water, the crops are dying, they're more expensive.
I mean, it is possible in this country to wake up every day and think, what the hell is next?
Yeah, I mean, if you think about, I love using the example of milk, right?
You get an increased price of gas, because obviously energy prices are going up.
That means that fertilizer is getting more expensive.
It's getting more expensive to feed cattle.
Then you have the labor, then you have the machinery.
In every aspect, food is getting more expensive.
And as we said, we're going towards the winter when people are going to be spending more on energy.
So we all agree there's a problem, and we all think that the government needs to do something, certainly needs to be a bit more visible.
But people are going to have to, which again, going back to the older generation, they're going to say, you know, you're going to have to get your head down and do something about this.
What can we say?
What can people, just a few things, what can people do to make that budget stretch to make that food shop easier?
Batch cooking for me, I mean, you start, I mean, okay, not everyone's going to afford a freezer, but if you could make stuff in bulk, it doesn't take any longer to cook than a small portion, so you can batch it up, bag it up, tub it up and freeze it, put a date on it, know when you've frozen it.
I think the supermarkets have got to help by having less packaging, so someone could pick up a couple of tomatoes instead of a whole carton of tomatoes.
What about a cut of meat?
Help me out.
I want to make a batch.
People watching this.
What's a good cheap cut of meat that's good?
We would use something like clod and sticking, which is a good stewing stuff.
You get the babettes.
Topside is a boring old piece of meat.
It's used for roasting this country, but it's actually very dry.
But something, good mint, you know, used mint.
It is so cheap.
And I think use the time of the supermarkets when prices are going to be down, end of the evening, first thing in the morning.
You've got to shop around and don't buy unnecessary goods and go with a shopping list because people impasbu.
And that's why cash is coming in, because people don't want to run up a credit card because they're tempted to that.
Gemma, final word from you?
I just think that the more people shop around, the better deals obviously you can get and the more you're encouraging supermarkets to then remain competitive as well.
But honestly, we need more help with food banks.
There are so many founders out there that are really struggling.
Well, we're going to talk about food banks later in the week.
You know, people would assume that they're open all the time.
They're not.
People would assume that they're heavily supported.
They're not.
There's all sorts of stuff.
But thank you both very much.
But we need to be smarter.
Yes, the government can do more, but we do need to take responsibility, right?
Thank you, Anthony.
Thank you, Gemma.
More of that tomorrow.
Next on Uncensored though, Jess's Journos are back.
I'll be talking by talk TV legend presenter Mike Graham and former newspaper editor Emily Sheffield.
They're with us after the break.
We're coming back in three.
Don't go anywhere.
Let's get this right, right?
Rocketing inflation, an energy crisis, a war in Europe, and a pack of butter costs the same as a flight, although all the flights are cancelled.
Now, you could travel by rail, but frankly, you've got more chance of seeing Boris Johnson at work than a train driver.
Interest rates are up too.
Not on Rishi Sunak's leadership campaign.
And now, just there's a deadly super swarm of sugar-crazed wasps heading for Britain.
Truly, it's a summer of strife, but at least the sun was out, right?
Time for a beer, excuse me, and a barbecue.
And a barbecue with your friends on the lawn.
By the way, Health and Safety said, don't eat this.
Would I?
Ridiculous.
Fire chiefs, them not, want to ban our barbecues over safety fears as Britain basks in another scorching heat wave.
This very weekend, I thought, you know what?
Take the kids, take the grandkids to centre parks, get back to nature.
I pack the car with a load of cheese and meat for the grill.
And what should greet me on the arrival?
The halluminati, a big sign marvellous.
No barbecues in the forest.
You'll set fire to it.
No, I won't.
It's a nanny plate.
Now, of course, an open fire can be dangerous.
Tick.
But for goodness sake, sensible Brits like me have been sizzling sausages for decades without burning the house down.
And if your barbee is ablaze, don't worry about it because you won't be able to put it out anyway because hose pipes are now banned in three counties with more to follow because there's a drought coming.
Last week, a lawyer on this show said we should snitch on our neighbours if we catch them watering the grass.
Don't water your grass, but grass your neighbour up.
Grass your neighbour up.
Did you like that?
Out of your mouth, not mine.
But that's what you're saying.
But we have to take responsibility.
I'm saying speak to your neighbours.
And if it comes to it, then of course then you can report them to local authority.
And you know what?
I have to say at the time I disagree with him.
And yet as I wandered around the forest this weekend, I did find myself wanting to snitch on the people in the other huts as I caught the odd scent of sausage drifting across the nighttime forest skies.
That's what this nanny state does, you know, it breeds suspicion.
My view, it's the first summer we've had to be allowed to go out without our face masks on and stand next to each other for ages to stop snooping at our stakes, surveying our sausages and gawping at our gardens, or put simply, burger off.
You get that, right?
I never dreamt of telling you two to burger off.
Delighted.
Jezza's Journos tonight welcomes talk TV presenter Mike Graham and journalist and former newspaper editor Emily Sheffield.
Don't anybody go near that burger.
It looks absolutely dreadful.
Welcome, welcome, both, both, both.
Thank you.
Can we start?
We've just talked about food.
Can we start about the government, okay?
There are real, real problems in this country right now, whether it's gas prices, electricity prices, petrol prices, food prices, you can't see a dentist, you can't get a doctor's appointment.
France Police Crackdown on Migrants 00:09:37
I know this Tory leadership campaign is going on for another month.
But Mike, where is the government?
It feels like we're paralysed, doesn't it?
Well, listen, I've been away for two weeks, right?
And I came back and nothing had actually changed.
There's nobody in charge.
Nobody seems to know what to do.
I don't know of any other business in the world where the summer comes, people go on holiday, and nobody does anything.
I mean, you know, I went away for two weeks.
They didn't say, let's close down talk TV and have no show between 10 and 1 because the guy that normally does it isn't here.
You know, where is the leadership?
You know, we all remember John Prescott with his little jar of, you know, Peter Mandelson as a lobster, a crab, or something like that.
You know, and he always worry that the guy that's put in charge is a bad guy and he's not going to do anything good.
But we've got this kind of perennial now, just nothingness going on.
As long as Boris Johnson is still in charge until September the 5th, he's no one doing anything.
Emily, I'd sort of support Boris Johnson in that everybody's said that if you do anything fiscally in the next six weeks since you got deposed by those MPs, then you're stepping on the toes, if you like, of the future.
But MPs have got six weeks' holiday.
He only has two.
Do you not think that this country, with what's happening, needs leadership now?
I do think it needs leadership.
And I also think that politicians, prime ministers in particular, and cabinet ministers do need holidays.
So I'm not one of those who thinks it was a terrible thing that Boris had one week's holiday.
He's been working flat out.
But if we look back to last summer, when Afghanistan hit, and we found that Dominic Raab was on a beach, most of the head of the civil servants did not come back from their holidays.
Now, I appreciate people were feeling holiday starved.
We'd gone through a horrendous pandemic and people are allowed holidays.
But it's also, if you work in the government, it's a huge privilege to work for this country.
If something, if a crisis hits, you come back from your holiday.
If you run a business and a crisis hits your business, do you think anybody is still sitting on the bottom of the business?
No, they're not.
But with respect, not just the government.
All these politicians, starmers on holiday, they've got six weeks off.
And I think that if you look at what's going on, the average man and woman, the length and breadth of this country, would go, what am I supposed to think?
We're not over-egging this.
These are dire times, aren't they?
No, this is like a digital world in which these politicians are operating in an analogue government.
They're working as though the world hasn't changed.
Let's all take loads of time off at summertime, Christmas, Easter.
The world doesn't work like that anymore.
People work all the time, round the clock.
They take their holidays when they can.
They see their kids when they can.
Forget all this nonsense about work-life balance.
That's not what I'm working for.
I never thought that I would agree with Gordon Brown.
He was on television this morning, literally saying Cobra should be in the emergency session of senior ministers should be sat, should be dealing with this.
He's right, isn't he?
I don't know, actually.
I think they could definitely be having a Cobra meeting.
I mean, Cobra meetings happen nearly every day anyway.
They're always given this special title, but Cobras are incredibly common.
But I do think there is an issue that Rishi actually has.
The government has got a £37 billion package about to come in.
And that's not coming in until October.
So we've already had one chunk of payments to the most needy.
More payments are coming in October.
So I don't know there's an absolute urgency right this second to be dishing more money out.
What do you say to the people then who's going to be able to do that?
Well, no, but that's the point I'm going to make.
What I think there is a real worry at the moment is we're all listening as voters to these terrible headlines and there's no one coming onto our television screens or our radio stations saying, don't worry, everything's going to be a lot of fun.
I'm not saying, yeah, maybe we should be on an economic war footing.
But the people that we vote for, I think, very quickly before we wrap this, should be saying, you know, calm down, we're on it.
We're doing...
There's no leadership.
It's like a rudder ship.
There's stuff going out on Twitter.
That's about the money.
We've had this since February, saying when is something going to happen?
You know, it's not good enough to just hand money out.
It's now money they're giving back to people.
What they need to do is cut taxes, cut the green levy, cut something so that stop subsidising the oil companies.
They're all getting very rich.
Thank you very much indeed.
Well, no, to be fair, it's Sunak who put a windfall tax on them.
He did.
And it's Truss who's about to remove it, which I think is one of the more ridiculous planks of her.
Well, whether you think it's ridiculous or not, he hasn't got a hope in hell's chance and they should call it off right now because she is heading to number 10.
Rishi Sunak's got Emily.
Nothing to do with this.
Rishi Sunak.
Look at her Twitter.
I want this to finish now.
This could go on till 2027 and Rishi Sunak's going to come second.
This is an appalling story.
I'd love you taking it.
The Met Police strip searched 650 children over two years.
I want to take this from you.
The Met Police has really been criticised justifiably on so many fronts.
Dame Cressida Dick resigned.
What do you make of strip searching 650 children, some on the street over two years?
Well, I wrote about child Q, and that was a particularly nasty case where a young girl without her parents being told was strip searched in her school.
No teacher was allowed in the room.
Two police officers, a young black girl, she had her period and they actually made her pull her knickers down.
I'm sorry, it's we I mean that the child cue, I wrote a pretty vicious column towards the Met about that because I really feel that was a really dis How could those two cops have been in that thought that was appropriate behaviour?
But I think what's worrying about this wider report that's come out is that 53% of the cases, no further charges were pressed, nothing was found, I think it's 21%.
The children and let's say some of them are 17, so we're not talking about tiny children here.
We're talking about teenagers, and we do know there is a problem with teenagers carrying drugs because unfortunately they are used as drug mules by the drug dealers and it's a very, very serious problem in this city.
I understand that police do sometimes need to search, but there are not enough safeguards in place.
They should, the parents need to be there or another adult needs to be there or a lawyer needs to be there.
There clearly aren't enough safeguards and it's not okay.
And it's all about humiliating people, isn't it?
It's not about finding.
I mean, so what if you find, you know, a couple of grams of cocaine on a 17-year-old kid?
You know, it's not exactly going to stop the drug epidemic that's going on in London.
County lads, no.
I mean, it's not going to stop it.
You know, and the idea that they're simply telling these kids that they have to take all their clothes off, it's just about making them feel awful and rotten.
And as you say, Emily, I can't imagine a police officer as a human being thinking it's a good thing to do.
I have to say, and I said it already, I think the Met Police is in dire straits in so many ways and quite rightly.
It's on special measures now.
Literally.
Here's a couple of other stories for you.
An Australian cricketer, Italian McGrath, was allowed to play the women's T20 gold medal match today despite testing positive for coronavirus.
Now, I'm just going to throw this out there.
Apparently, she could play and win a gold medal if she wore a mask under her helmet, didn't go anywhere near anybody, sat away from her friends, although she must have touched the ball.
They didn't let Novak Djokovic into their country.
What's all this about?
I know, it's absolutely bonkers, isn't it?
I mean, it just shows you how crazy the world was that we were living in.
And when Djokovic was told he couldn't play in the Australian Open, that should have been the watershed moment when they went, you know what?
Actually, you probably can.
It's probably going to be all right.
You're on a tennis station.
You're probably going to be on a tennis.
You're probably going to be fine.
They've now finally seen the light.
I see this as actually a good thing.
Do you?
Because finally, people have said, yes, there is COVID.
Yes, you're an athlete.
Yes, you can play your sport.
And if somebody else gets it because of you breathing on them as you're running past them, they'll probably be okay.
Good man.
Emily?
Well, the only thing I'm going to say, just a threat.
What if I turn around to both of you now and said, I've got COVID?
I've had it twice.
I haven't, by the way.
But would you mind?
I think that's the only issue.
I'm very easy with it.
My family have had COVID God knows how many times.
I seem to be, I haven't had it.
I keep nursing my children, my husband, blah, blah, blah.
But I do think it is falling into the fear left over from COVID is quite serious.
And some individuals still get incredibly frightened.
And we've only just had France, for instance, drop.
So my son had to be tested for COVID.
We nearly messed up our whole holiday in France.
Luckily, he went negative on the day.
France has now just dropped that.
Yeah, exactly.
But we were talking 24 hours.
I would have lost two flights, a holiday, like a good chunk of money.
Of course, but only because of the fact that there were these ridiculous restrictions, not because you'd done anything.
But yes, the restrictions were there at the time.
They did make sense.
They didn't.
But it just was timing.
Because a lot of it is about timing.
Biden's had it twice in the last month.
You know, so what does that tell you?
He keeps every time you see him, he's wearing a mask.
Absolutely.
I'll do it again next week.
I've only got one minute.
Four in ten channel migrants are from Albania.
Leaked military intelligent report shows 37.5% of migrants crossing the channel in a six-week period in June and July were Albanian.
Yeah, I've been saying this for a long time.
It's a commercial enterprise run by criminal gangs to get people into this country.
Of course, we should be happy to bring people into this country who need to be rescued from war zones.
But these guys don't.
They could come illegally if they wanted to.
And you know, you know, you and I agree on this.
I'm slightly worried that everybody seems to think that France is a war-torn zone.
Why did you want to go on holiday to a war-torn zone?
No, I find they don't.
Listen to me.
Months ago, I said, it's an easy thing, this.
You just stick a knife in the dinghy.
The French authorities have done that today.
They've actually punctured a dinghy.
Well, well done, the French.
Mind you, I mean, they're going to have to do that because you can't go through Dover, can you, Emily, to be fair?
So we might all be going across in dinghies quite soon.
It's not to go on holiday.
Togo's fine now.
Football Manager Saves West Ham 00:10:33
Jacob Reese Moggs said go to Portugal.
Well, he would know.
He would indeed.
What an absolute pleasure.
Will you come back next week?
Will you come back next week, Emily?
Well, I might be in a dinghy trying to get to France.
Michael, you're back on Thursday.
That's where you go.
I'll be back on Thursday.
Absolutely.
You're in it, aren't you?
Thank you, Mike Graemes.
Thank you, Emily Sheffield.
More from Jezreel's Journalist.
Tomorrow and after the break, the Premier League kicks off the new season and says that players won't take the knee before every game.
But several clubs didn't get the memo after the break.
Former England manager Big Sam Allardyce is uncensored.
We're coming back in three.
Don't go anywhere.
Welcome back to Uncensored with the JK.
Now, the Premier League is back.
I'm a West Ham supporter, which means I spent the opening weekend of the season being steamrolled by a big bloke from Norway.
Elsewhere, the focus was on that perennial question of the modern game, to knee or not to knee.
Now, the league says it's ready to move on.
Players will no longer routinely take the knee before games, only, it says, at significant moments.
Well, several clubs considered the start of the season significant enough.
Players from West Ham, Palace, Spurs, Liverpool, and Arsenal all did it anyway.
So the big question: vacuous virtual signalling or something that is still a powerful stance against racism on a major platform.
I'm joined now by a legend.
Ex-England West Ham Bolton, the Knotts County manager, and many more.
The legend that is Sam Allardyce, who?
Welcome, my friend.
Welcome, man.
Thank you very much.
Are you back taking the knee?
I'm back taking the knee, absolutely.
But I think it is time that it moved on.
I think there's a time when I didn't realize it was two years or more since we first started taking the knee.
But I'd have to say what's coming out now is the right way forward, where gradually they are doing it less and less.
And as the PFA chief executive said, it's an individual choice now for me.
It is.
It's an individual choice where if you feel comfortable doing it, do it.
And if you don't, you should be allowed not to.
I think it's all about impact, isn't it?
And when you see, I said it last week, when you see footballers doing it and the people in the terraces are clapping, those are the people that don't need to be taught about racism.
And I wonder, I said it last week, mate of mine, Dave, suggested this, I wonder whether clubs, chairmen, players should get out in the community and use their fame and their success to spread the word about anti-racism that way rather than taking the knee.
Not against it, but I just wonder whether it is what it was.
Well, there's a huge amount of work done in the community, particularly at your club, by the way, a very, very good community program, West Ham indeed.
I mean, where they get out in the most, whether they're doing it in terms of the racism side or not, but every player is contracted to do seven hours a week.
Not the players, they ask them to do seven hours a week with a schedule.
But they all turn out.
Well, most of the players turn out.
And of course, West Ham, the most popular player who turned out most, was Mark Noble.
He was.
Let's talk about the beginning of the Premiership season.
Are you missing it?
Yeah, you miss it.
I mean, it's your life.
It's your whole life.
So when you're used to the pressure, when you're used to looking forward to the start of the season, working with the players and getting going, you do miss it.
So Mrs. Allardyce has had you all summer.
I know exactly what happened.
You might be getting too fed up with me and wanting me to go back.
Well, you see, that might be the case.
Never say never if you sound like watching.
It might be the case.
She is watching.
She actually texted me earlier.
But apparently, on a serious note, your phone starts ringing about November, December.
You're going to enjoy yourself now and you're going to wait for trouble.
On a serious note, first question, would you go back?
If it's the right club, I think I would, yeah.
I think it's right.
They're right.
They're right.
You miss it.
I think I've still got still got some years left in me.
And I think that having had over 12 months off since West Brom now, you know, I do miss that the desire to get in amongst the players, to work with the players, and to use my experience to obviously help a football club.
It's no longer for me going to take a football club like Bolton Wonders did and take him into Europe or go to Newcastle and try and teth them to New Europe.
It's about going, saving a football club because that's how people have labelled me.
Red Adair Sam.
I'm quite happy with that.
Of course you are.
And the bonuses that come with it.
Very quickly, an overview of the start of the season.
This is my overview.
West Ham had 106 passes in the first half.
Man City had about a thousand.
They look unbeatable.
If I was Eric Van Tai, I mean, Manchester United, they start by losing at home to Bryan.
The mystique of that club, nobody's talking about them being in the top four.
For me, the performance of the Saturday, and I hate to say it was Spurs.
I think Spurs will be a major, major force under Conte Dan.
Oh, I thought that I watched that game as well.
I thought that the comeback, the shock of the goal, early doors.
But you can see Conte's influence.
Oh, known him for a long time.
Met him in Juventus many years ago.
Came to West Ham when he was national team manager.
And that man really is his way or no way.
And whatever the Tottenham players thought about who they were or who they weren't, Antonio Conte will say, it's my way, lads.
Or off the road.
So he's got them fit, he's got them organised, and there's some good new players being bought by the looks of it.
Loads of questions.
Who wins the Premiership?
Manchester City.
Who gets relegated?
Southampton.
I think Nottingham Forest, maybe, maybe Southampton this year.
And whether it may be Bournemouth or Fulham, even though they've started really well, will depend on what they've recruited when the window shuts.
Bolton and Fulham will be phoning this man before Christmas.
Let's move on to the Qatar World Cup.
This week marks 100 days to the Qatar World Cup.
So much written and said.
Former Germany captain Philip Lamb today says he won't be attending it due to the country's human rights record.
You, of course, managed Newcastle, Newcastle taken over, as we know, by a Saudi-backed public fund.
What's your view on sports washing?
Live golf has come out.
There's money being involved now.
What's your take on all of that?
Money rules.
Across the world, here.
You know, bring your money in, you can get in here.
I must say about the European golf tour because I'm passionate about this.
Yeah, the live golf, you know.
Well, you know, live golf.
The DP World Tour is sponsored Dubai ports, and that's Saudi money.
So you're right.
So, you know, so it's money talks and money will talk in sports, tennis, golf, football, at every single level, of course.
And now they've got the World Cup.
They will want to make the biggest show on earth of the World Cup when it comes in December, of course.
I mean, they've spent so much money on the stadiums, which will be obsolete once they've finished.
And they want to show what they can do.
That's what Dubai started doing.
Everybody else has followed that.
And because of the wealth of those countries, they will continue to do that.
I never thought I'd get a chance to do that.
They've got the boxing as well.
They have.
I never thought I'd get a chance to ask you.
One of my heroes six years ago next month sat by England after 67 days.
A travesty, in my humble opinion.
Thank you.
And I mean that genuinely because I know what it meant to you.
I know that you've opened up about the toll it took on you because you are England through and through.
Here's the question you never thought that you'd be asked.
When you watched the semi-final, when you watched the final, the nearest and greatest opportunity this country has had for a long time, you'd have won it, wouldn't you, Big Sam?
Well, I'd have to say yes to that, but that doesn't say that Gareth hasn't done a fantastic job.
He has, but you know, you always back yourself when you got the job, when you've done the job and you waited for it for so long, then you would back yourself from day one when I walked into St. George's Park, that that would be the ultimate goal.
When you grow up, football's your life.
You make it to England manager, just as a mate.
What did it do to you when they took it away?
Oh, I'll tell you, there's only family got me through.
The family got me through the time, the dark times, the dark period, the depression.
You know, I didn't go on TV and talk about it, talk about it that much like people, I think, should do today.
Perhaps I should have thought about it more.
But in the end, the family got me through no matter.
And lots of friends in football.
And then, more importantly, later on, Steve Parrish, because he gave me my life back as a football manager.
And I enjoyed immensely my time with Crystal Palace and Steve Parrish and showing what everybody can still do.
And that was get them out of the relegation zone.
But England will always, always stab me in the heart.
But there you go.
You have to get over it.
When you see England being successful, is it tinged with a little bit of regret?
That could be me.
There's no danger about that.
In my opinion, that should be me, but it's not.
So, you know, and to see that squad and the quality of that squad as well, to think that could have been my opportunity.
But you can't cry over spilt milk.
And I guess in the end, you go, well, I did get to become the England manager.
Correct.
And that meant that my peers and my employers thought that I was good enough for that.
What's next for Big Sam?
Waiting for the cold.
One would never know.
I mean, there's a couple of jobs abroad that I've turned down because it's a bit late in my time of life at 67 to go packing my bags and moving away and going abroad and going that would have happened 10 years ago.
Thankfully, I would have tried it.
But now it will hopefully something will turn up.
Whether that might be in the championship again, who knows?
But certainly having another shot.
I've got a bit itchy again.
I've got a bit anxious again, like you mean, because the garden looks okay.
Yeah.
And Sammy Lee's Sammy Lee's annoying.
Well, yes, Sammy's Lee's probably more desperate than I am, Sammy, you know what I mean?
Because we have a great partnership there.
Listen, you're one of football's great men personally.
I thought it was gutting when you lost that England job, but everybody knows a good job.
And I've absolutely no doubt before December, Big Sam will be back saying, Yeah, well, we'll do our best.
We'll block up the defence and we'll hit some goals and we'll do it.
I had a great four years at your club, so Moisiah's not doing bad, is he?
Not bad at all.
Listen, absolutely brilliant.
Sam, thank you very much indeed.
Sam Palladice.
Thank you, my friend.
Now, before the break, let me bring you some sad breaking news.
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Dame Olivia Newton-John has died.
The news posted on her official Facebook page in the last few minutes says she passed away peacefully at her ranch in Southern California this morning, surrounded by family and friends.
The post reads, Olivia has been a symbol of triumphs and hope for over 30 years, sharing her journey with breast cancer.
She was 73.
More after this break.
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Just returning to that sad breaking news before the break.
Dame Olivia Newton-John has died.
That news posted on her official Facebook page in the last few minutes as she passed away peacefully this morning in California, surrounded by family and friends.
And the post read that Olivia has been a symbol of triumphs and hope for over 30 years, sharing her journey with breast cancer.
She was 73, and we'll do our best to have a response to that between now and the end of the show.
Who will ever, ever forget Greece?
Right, we move on.
Now, Errol Musk has more reasons than many to feel fatherly pride.
To be honest, 269 billion of them, to be precise.
His son is the billionaire SpaceX and Tesla mastermind, Elon Musk.
Errol, though, a engineer and a self-made millionaire himself, he has six other children.
So perhaps he agrees with Elon's view that population collapse is the greatest threat facing modernized civilization.
He joins me now.
Errol Musk, good evening.
Welcome to Piers Morgan Uncensored.
Without Piers Morgan, my name is Jeremy Carl.
How are you?
I'm well, thank you, Jeremy.
Nice to talk to you.
There you are in South Africa.
I suppose I would start by saying thank you.
I mean, you created this business genius, and yet it would be fair to say, Errol, that all of your kids are high achievers, which means it's all down to you.
Is that right?
Well, that's what you say.
Well, they are all high achievers.
So it would be wrong for me to say that anything else.
Why do you think they are?
I think it's built into the sort of work ethic that we inherited from our parents and, you know, grandparents and so on.
I mean, you were, you know, you run a major engineering business.
You were a millionaire by the age of 30.
One wonders whether your kids would have had the same success.
Actually, it's an interesting subject over here at the moment with everything that's going on about opportunity and what you're born into.
Do you think that Elon and all the other kids, if they hadn't been born into that wealth, would have been less successful?
Well, of course, of course.
They were used to things that made it not necessary for them later on to have those things because they had many of those nicer things when they were children.
I mean, let's take Elon, the world's richest man.
Did you put the wind in his sails?
Did you set him on his way?
Or was it all him?
Because, I mean, you know, he's the richest man in the world and you're his dad.
That's quite impressive.
Well, you know, of course, you know, I always encourage him and we've never turned away from hard work.
And we have a sort of grasp over the world where we feel that we are able to do things and so we want to do things.
And so we try to take on things that other people say can't be done.
That's about it, you know.
I get that.
Take it on SpaceX and Tesla's quite different to your average take on a different job.
There was a bit of controversy this week, which is why you wanted to come on and censor, because you said that although you're proud of him, you don't really like him very much.
But you said that you were misquoted.
I mean, what are you jealous of him, man?
I mean, I think I'd be jealous of my son.
I'll tell you one thing: if my son was the richest man in the world, I'd phone him every day.
Yeah, no, no, I never said anything like that.
So I have been proud of him from the day he was born.
And a person doesn't suddenly become proud of your child.
No.
That's ridiculous.
Dean.
And, you know, and then as far as saying I don't like him, I mean, that's crazy, you know.
Well, I know that you, you know.
I know that you felt that you were misquoted, and we wanted to put that right.
So, a few more questions, O provider of the world's most richest man.
Do you think that his business ventures are good for the climate?
Oh, well, I think in terms of the overall thing, they're not making a great deal of difference on the rocket side.
I mean, obviously, I suppose I meant you're talking about rocket trails, but most of the stuff they burn is hydrogen.
So, on the car side, obviously, there's a little bit of carbon saving using electric cars.
Of course, there's coal-generated power stations, but maybe in due course, we won't have that either.
Somebody I read somewhere this week described your son as sort of Iron Man.
So, my question is quite simple: Is he a superhero or a flawed evil genius, in his father's opinion?
No, no, no, he's a superhero, superhero.
He's a very, very nice person.
I never thought that I would be able to help anyone.
Errol, that's lovely.
I never thought I'd be asking this on television.
A Colombian firm has asked you to donate what they describe as your super sperm because you seem to produce children left, right, and center.
More than me.
I mean, my dad, before he passed, said, Go back to work because you're going to end up with more kids than Boris Johnson.
But yours are all billionaires and all over.
What is it about you, man?
What have you got that the rest of us haven't, Errol?
Well, it's 10 pounds per it per little individual, you know.
Okay.
Just I'm not doing that.
Oh, right.
Okay.
It worried me that it was Colombian, but that's just my opinion.
I noticed earlier you talked about being a strict parent on a serious note.
Is that something that you think helped all your children go and go for their goals in life?
Oh, yes, absolutely.
I mean, they were traveling with me when they were tiny, I mean, all over the world.
And I couldn't keep an eye on all three of them.
So I had to rely on them, you know, and point out to them, you know, in China or wherever, especially my blonde daughter in China, you know, that she's not safe.
And so I had to rely on them.
And I made sure they understood that I relied on them.
And I did not tell them what to do.
I never signed anybody's homework in my whole life.
In fact, I was quite surprised one time when the kids were in boys in high school.
They grew up with me.
They were raised by me.
And they grew up at high school.
I mean, they grew up with me.
And they came to me with one day I was at a function and a parent mentioned that about signing homework.
And I said, signing homework?
And then later I spoke to my son Kimball and I said, what's this thing about signing homework?
He said, oh, dad, don't worry.
I mastered your signature years ago.
Yeah, listen, many kids will have done that.
Now, here's a quick question.
I haven't got much time.
Does Elon turn to you for advice?
I mean, I'm thinking Twitter, 44 billion or whatever.
Does he say, Dad, what should I do?
Because I just want you to know, I joined Twitter today for the first time.
You can follow me, JK Official.
And I just wanted to know what I was expecting if your son's going to buy it, my friend.
Well, yes, I do give them advice, obviously, from day one.
And obviously, Elon has a lot of other people giving him advice.
But I hope he takes my advice.
So is the Twitter deal going to go through, Errol?
I was asked, two years ago, I applied to be on Twitter.
And I was told that I was already on Twitter and that I had 458 posts.
So I said, no, I'm not on Twitter.
And I had to get hold of the family company to ask them to tell Twitter that that's not me.
So there's obviously something not right there.
Very quickly, you advised your son to get security.
You said he's becoming more and more political.
Is that advice he's taken from you, Errol?
Well, I hope so.
I definitely hope so.
And it's a very important thing.
Very, very important.
It certainly is.
A lot of crazies out there.
What an extraordinary man you are.
Ten children to three women.
You make me look like I've done absolutely nothing.
You're the father of the richest man in the world.
And you look fantastic.
If I look like that at 79, I'll be well happy.
Thank you so much for joining us.
If he does buy Twitter, tell him to get me that blue tick because honestly, I've only got 12.
Listen, I've got 12 supporters in one day.
Jesus had 12.
And look what happened to him.
Listen, Errol Musk.
Thank you.
Well, follow me, mate.
Thank you very much indeed.
Errol Musk, live from South Africa.
Great to have him on Uncensored.
Also, Sam Allardyce, Mike Graham, Emily as well tonight.
Loads, loads, loads that we've done.
We're back tomorrow night at 8 o'clock.
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