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Aug. 18, 2022 - Tate Speech - Andrew Tate

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Interview: Tristan Tate & Rich Cooper

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	Essentially, we all know what it means.
	When we used to play video games when we were little kids, there used to be a little cheat code that made you transcend from the rules of the game.
	Now, I don't follow the rules of the game or the rules of life.
	I'm a man who lives life completely on his own terms, so I can think of nobody better as my first guest on the God Mode podcast than this man right here.
	Now, if you know me from Twitter, you probably know who the man sitting Next to me, on my screen at least, is.
	But if you are from Romania, Eastern Europe, Slovakia, maybe a few of the guys in the UK and you don't know who this guy is, he lives his own version of God Mode over in Canada.
	He certainly is not following the rules of the game.
	Most 46-year-olds aren't built like him.
	They don't drive cars like him.
	They don't live life like him.
	So I'm going to hand this over to Mr. Rich Cooper, who has kindly joined me today.
	Tell us a little bit about yourself, Rich.
	Yeah, hey, thanks for having me, Tristan.
	I appreciate it.
	It's always a pleasure to talk to you guys.
	Well, what can we start with?
	So, my name is Rick Cooper.
	I started a YouTube channel about five or six years ago, really just to interview my friends and their success rides and pivoted to kind of deal with the wounds that I needed to make my work and just started talking about a lot of Red Pill concepts, understanding women better and how guys can get better results out of life by applying some basic skills, which a lot of guys still struggle with, especially the white knight type fellows.
	But I was an entrepreneur long before I got anywhere near any of this content or even thought about it.
	I had a number of successful business, a couple that flopped, but yeah, that's the too-long-didn't-read sort of version of my life.
	Yeah, and when you're talking about your core values as such, which you like to preach on your YouTube channel, people can find you at Rich underscore Cooper on Twitter, by the way, if you didn't know that already.
	Social status, fitness, was this something that you were conscious about and interested in your entire life?
	Or is it an epiphany that kind of hit you later on?
	I was not aware of any of these specific details that you get when you kind of start consuming, like starting with Rollo Tomassi's work, you know, for example.
	I was always always naturally alpha, right?
	Like big guy, strong, always muscular, rode motorcycles, drove fast cars, didn't really have a hard time with women, even when I was losing my hair and, you know, had to start wearing glasses for shade vision and stuff like that.
	But playing life at a higher level is always going to be accomplished and achieved when you see things as they truthfully are.
	I don't really like the whole red pill stuff and the manosphere.
	I think it's a silly kind of word.
	The manosphere to me sounds like a gay nightclub.
	Yeah, it does.
	Yeah, like I look at it more along the lines of, do you like comforting lies?
	Or do you prefer the uncomfortable truth about the way the world works and the way that you can operate to get better results to make yourself, you know, put yourself first?
	And for me, it's always a ladder.
	It's, you know, what, what's the uncomfortable truth about the world that we live in?
	Let's deal with that.
	Okay, and you started your YouTube channel and your teaching, let's say, five or six years ago.
	Was there a specific event in your life that led you up to thinking, you know, I need to tell more people about this?
	Is there something you discovered, perhaps?
	Well, it was two things.
	I mean, I kind of had to run up to it because about 2011, two really shitty things went down in my life.
	One, I was going through my divorce, which was just something that I'd never thought would look like the way that it did.
	I blissfully walked into a slaughterhouse basically, not knowing what I was walking into.
	So, that was an eye-awakening moment.
	The other thing too was I had some stuff going down in my business where Competitors and very large financial institutions with pockets deeper than God could potentially change the legislation, the landscape, which would put our business out of operation.
	I was super busy with that, dealing with lobbyists.
	I spent a ton of time and money dealing with all those things, trying to try to solve those problems and then exiting the divorce machine.
	But the thing that really kind of red pilled me, like this is the thing that really pushed me over the edge.
	I was stupid enough after my divorce, once I got clear of it to get involved with a single mommy for a few years, she had two boys and that was the thing that red pilled me.
	Like that was a point where a friend of mine was like, dude, you need to read this book. And he's like, read rational male.
	I downloaded the audiobook listen to it on my flight back from this men's retreat and then that's kind of what pushed me into okay.
	There's a lot of stuff going on here that I kind of knew and I saw happening but I didn't want to believe because I watch way too many Disney movies or I spent too much time watching cable television growing up and My dad was pretty much a beta.
	He was a big, strong guy, but he was always bending the knee to my mom sort of thing, right?
	So all of this programming, I really had to unplug from and kind of subscribe to some new beliefs that would get me better results.
	Yeah, I mean, divorce, it's guys like you listening to guys like you and every older man I know who's been an influence in my life.
	Some of my mother's brothers, my uncles have warned me about marriage and they've warned me about divorce.
	Essentially, what they say is no matter how sweet a woman is, no matter how much she loves you, when it comes time to get divorced, the love is gone.
	So she's ruthless.
	Well, they always say that the woman you marry is never the same woman that you divorce.
	She completely pivots when she has access to family law and realizes how beneficial that is for her to leverage it so she can get access to the kids, control decision-making processes, and get more money from the father.
	Absolutely.
	And you got divorced in Canada, is that correct?
	Yeah, you do not want to get divorced in Canada, trust me.
	That's a question I have for you.
	A lot of my listeners are from Eastern Europe.
	I think things are a bit more forgiving here.
	And if I do go down the marriage route, it's going to be the church-only, no state legislation marriage route.
	I'm certainly not going to be signing that piece of paper.
	But what are the main differences between the United States and Canada?
	Is it better?
	They're pretty similar throughout most of the West.
	So, I mean, I've talked to thousands of guys now in my coaching sessions because I do a lot of one-on-one.
	So, when I'm doing videos, guys have the opportunity to book me for consoles, you know, if they want to deal with trying to figure out how to untie the knot.
	So, I've talked to guys all throughout most of Western Europe.
	So, England, France, Germany, all throughout North America, even guys that are expats that are dealing with women that they brought back to North America from places like Asia or, you know, other places in the world.
	But It's incredibly hostile towards fathers, generally speaking, in North America.
	There's places in the states where it's a little more friendly, like there's some states like Nevada and Florida, you know, for example, which are a lot, well, I'm not gonna say a lot more friendlier, but they're a little more balanced towards fathers.
	But generally speaking, everything within family law is designed to give the mother as much control and as much resources as possible.
	And that's going to come at somebody's expense, which is always going to be the father.
	So what most guys usually end up seeing happening is she takes the kids, she gets a new boyfriend, he spends more time with his own kids than he's allowed to while he ends up sending her money every month and he watches her alienate him from his own children.
	Um, so it's, I mean, it's a pretty shitty deal.
	Cause, cause I mean the whole point to having children is siring children to pass on your name, to pass on your DNA is so you have some influence and you have some ability to raise them and you know, be a part of their lives obviously.
	But family law doesn't really allow men in the West to do that today.
	It's, it's, it's pretty tough.
	I mean, there's certain things you can do to get around it or to minimize the risks, but the risk is always there.
	Like they say, not all women will destroy men in divorce court, but all women can.
	Yeah, exactly.
	They always have the power to do so.
	And, you know, power corrupts, as they say.
	A lot of people actually ask me, Richard, why I live in Eastern Europe.
	I'll tell you about a law that you'll like in Slovakia.
	So I have a friend from Slovakia, lived in England with his Slovak wife, got divorced, decided to move back to his country.
	When they first joined the European Union, a lot of women were taking these men's children and moving to the West, moving to Germany, moving to England to work jobs.
	And these men were stuck without their kids.
	Slovakia actually passed a law in the early 2000s, preventing the child living outside of the country of the person who finances the child.
	So the father's paying child support.
	So when he moved back to Slovakia, she wanted to stay in England.
	The child had to move legally with him.
	So there is hope for the world, but I think it's in the East.
	Yeah, there's still friendly places.
	I mean, Kenya apparently is friendly to fathers.
	There was a tweet that I put out today.
	Apparently, they'll split custody and there's nothing the mother can do to fight anything around that.
	It's just straight down the middle, 50-50.
	Why do you think that is in the West more so than the East?
	When did this happen?
	Well, men aren't valued.
	Like, men throughout history have never been valued.
	Men have always been a disposable commodity, right?
	I mean, if you go back 10,000 years, if warring tribes were in conflict, and there was a conquering tribe that would, you know, come in, the first thing they would do is they would fight off and kill all the men.
	And any men that didn't die in the conflict will either be Tried to be put into slavery, and if they refuse to be slaves, then they just kill them.
	Yeah.
	Boys of fighting age were either recruited to be new soldiers in their army, or they were killed or put into slavery, and the women were kept as war brides.
	So, they were used for copulation, for reproduction, you know, for childbearing, and all that sort of stuff.
	So, women have always been preserved throughout history.
	Like, they've always been the protective sex.
	Men, on the other hand, are just always disposable.
	It's just what we are, and that's okay.
	I mean, you just have to accept that that's how the world views it, and then act accordingly.
	Yeah, and you mentioned a book that really helped you out.
	A lot of the guys watching will be Eastern European, but there is a book, The Rational Male by Rollo Tomasi.
	I've actually listened to it on audiobook.
	I have personal close friends of mine who've said that book literally saved their lives and saved them from their boring sexless marriages.
	So, highly recommended.
	I'm going to pitch my book because I just published this on Amazon, The Unplugged Alpha.
	If you want a distilled version of everything in the Red Pill space, 200 pages, you'll get through it in one day.
	It's on Amazon right now.
	Yep.
	Check it out, guys.
	It's not audible yet.
	See, I'm an audiobook guy.
	Not yet.
	I am going to record it myself.
	So you're going to hear it in my voice.
	Wonderful.
	Now I'm going to tell you about your voice.
	So I'm going to tell you why I'm an audiobook guy.
	And you're going to like this.
	And it leads to my next question, which I'm going to ask you.
	I I don't have time to sit down with a paper book anymore.
	As much as I used to enjoy it, I'm too busy with work.
	I'm too busy trying to make money.
	I'm too busy meeting my women.
	But I do love driving.
	Driving, I think, is a passion that me and you both share.
	We both love our fast cars.
	Now, I listen to audiobooks when I drive.
	I'll be driving through the mountain roads listening to Ian Fleming.
	I'm the same way.
	I very rarely read books unless they're only available in paperback, but even then I'll just wait for the reading and I'll always listen to it.
	Driving is a great way to get through books.
	I'm exactly the same dude.
	If I have a long road trip, I'm listening to a book always.
	Good, so I will definitely get that when it comes out on audiobook.
	Supercars!
	Now, I want to play a little game with you, Rich, because you have an Audi R8 Convertible, I believe.
	Absolutely fantastic car.
	It's a beast of a machine.
	It was actually mine and my brother's dream car when I was younger.
	We wanted one more than anything.
	The reason I don't have one now is I'm almost six foot five.
	It's a little bit... I mean, I don't even drive my Lamborghini or my McLaren for the exact same reason.
	I was going to say, how do you fit in the Huracan, especially the convertible?
	Because the headroom is like, I'm six foot two and change, and it's really tight with me.
	Like, I can barely fit in it.
	Yeah, I put the roof down, essentially.
	I put the roof down.
	I've also had the manufacturers lower and reverse the seat further than it was supposed to go.
	They've taken some things out.
	So my driver's seat is wider than the other one.
	I've got another.
	I've got the Huracan Evo coming soon, and that is slightly bigger and slightly more forgiving.
	So, supercars are one of those things where everybody wants them.
	Every young man wants them, certainly.
	And when you get one, people love to come at you with bullshit reasons of why nobody should have one, why you shouldn't want one, why having one makes you a loser.
	So, you have a passion for supercars.
	So, you have a passion for supercars.
	I have a passion for supercars.
	So, we're going to play devil's advocate right now.
	I'm going to hit you with the same sort of accusations I get hit with every single day, and I want to know your response.
	It's a game we're going to play.
	Rich, you only bought a supercar to get women.
	Women only like you because you have a supercar.
	So?
	Bro, when it comes to hate, the way that I look at haters is hate only ever comes from beneath you.
	Nobody ever gets jealous of a loser, okay?
	I mean, I'm never getting messages like that from billionaires like Elon Musk or Jeff Bezos or you guys, you know, for example.
	It's always some guy that has a bus pass and wants to have a supercar but can't afford it, so they just point and sputter at you like a woman, right?
	Yeah, I mean, that is the best response.
	People say, oh, women only like you because of... I'm just going, so?
	Yeah, so?
	Because you have a supercar.
	Well, I do have a supercar.
	Another one.
	Everyone talks about getting rich.
	Everyone talks about making money.
	I actually preach.
	I love preaching spending money because that's what money is for.
	That's why I make it.
	Oh, your car depreciates, Richard.
	You shouldn't have bought that.
	You should have invested in X, Y, and Z stock and blah, blah, blah.
	What's your answer?
	Yeah.
	I've already got investments.
	This is throwaway money, right?
	I don't care if it depreciates.
	Yeah, exactly.
	You buy the supercar when you already have other things.
	Like when the average Joe that works the nine-to-five job and going to his job and he's got a 300-pound wife and 3.1 kids and he's miserable with everything, making $60,000 a year and he's driving his Toyota Tercel or whatever it is that he's rolling in.
	To him, he's buying it after he's paid for his housing.
	He's got his RRSPs or his retirement savings plan or whatever you want to call it.
	Like, he's got that out of the way and he buys a car that he can afford.
	So, I mean, whether you're buying an R8 or a Bugatti Chiron, you're buying it because you can afford to pay for it, not because you're a Muppet and, you know, you're leveraging everything you have just to show up in a nice car.
	People that have nice cars, this is what a lot of people that don't know about supercar owners and supercar clubs, and you already know this because you already participate in rallies and stuff like this, but These are some of the coolest fucking people in the world.
	Buying a nicer car gives you access, gives you the privilege to hang out with other guys that have cool shit too.
	So you guys all get together and you hang out and you have events and it's like, you know, you become the average of the five people that you spend the most time with, right?
	So when you surround yourself with excellence, you can't help but become better yourself, right?
	Yeah, I mean, it's exactly the same principle.
	When I was young, I used to hear about people who spent a lot of money in nightclubs, and I think 10,000 pounds in the night.
	If I had 10,000 pounds, I'd buy a new car, and I'd buy a new bed, and I'd rent a better apartment.
	But the guys who are doing it, the guys who are spending that money, already have all of those things.
	It is throwaway money, like you said.
	So, yeah, those are exactly the same answers as I'd give, but I'd like to hear them from someone else because I'm tired of preaching to my audience again and again and again.
	So, supercars.
	Now, you get a lot of flack for your car, for the things that you post.
	I mean, you posted something today with some woman calling you.
	What was it?
	The final boss of all mansplainers.
	Was that it?
	Oh yeah, so what will typically happen is I posted this on the community tab of my YouTube channel.
	I'm just trying to think what the lyrics were, but it was something along the lines of, if a woman says, you know, we're just friends, say fine, grab her phone and then text the guy, I'm horny, let's bang.
	She's either going to freak out when you start doing it, and you won't get through the process, or the guy's going to get the messages, and he's going to be all over it like a fat kid on cake.
	And then it just concludes with men and women can't be just friends, right?
	So what ends up happening is, of course, all of the crazies find that, and then the Twitter mob comes in, and then they find it, and they post it somewhere on social media like Facebook and some private caring group, and they all get together, and they swarm in, and they start shitting on it, and then they watch your videos, and they start shitting in the comments over there.
	And this entire snowball starts to happen, which is fine, because I end up getting an extra 20,000 views an hour on the videos, which helps me out at the end of the day.
	It's like all these haters spend all this time watching my stuff.
	I don't care if you disagree.
	Fine, watch it.
	I mean, you're helping me out with the algorithms.
	But that's where that came from.
	Yeah, and that's an experiment I've actually pulled myself, Rich, I promise.
	I've pulled it myself.
	Girls are like, oh, he's like a brother to me.
	I'm like, I bet he's not.
	Let me send him one message.
	And a few times they've called my bluff and their friendship with that man was essentially ruined after he texts back, oh, I'm so glad you left that idiot Tristan.
	He was so mean to you.
	I'll treat you right.
	And yeah, it is very funny.
	In fact, the only thing I have and the only thing any man can have remotely close to a female friend are girlfriends of my brother, girlfriends of my cousin.
	I wouldn't ever hang out with them, but I can say hi to them, speak with them, and have a conversation in a completely platonic way because you're loyal to your friends.
	But that's it.
	That's where the line exists.
	Work buddies.
	Yeah, aside from that, what do you have in common with women, right?
	Like, do they know how an, you know, like the size of the engine and your Huracan Evo that's coming down the road and how much power it has and why you're buying it and, you know, Does she know about the four wheel steering system and all that stuff?
	No, she doesn't.
	She doesn't know about any of those things.
	It's just she's going to look pretty in the passenger seat with her outfit and her handbag and her makeup on, and she'll be able to post a picture on social media proving that she's hot.
	She's got a hot boyfriend.
	Yeah, exactly.
	That's what her benefit to it is all.
	Yeah, I think the mistake I've got, I've got a theory I want to run by you.
	I think a lot of men get very attached to women because they're in search of companionship.
	And I think men who have, for example, like me and my brother have, we're Best friends, we live together, we're always together.
	I don't need companionship.
	So, I've always found myself to look at women with a smarter eye than a lot of men.
	Have you found that?
	I mean, did you find that?
	I mean, who are your guys?
	Do they keep you away from falling?
	Yeah, we're not that different.
	I've got two younger brothers.
	So, like you, I'm real tight with my brothers.
	I mean, one's five years younger, the other one's eight years younger.
	Um, we get on well, we've lived together before.
	I, I, at, at your age, I was actually probably still living with my brothers, I think at the time, because I had a house and they were with me.
	But to me, like that's like, that's friendship.
	Like that's a brotherhood, you know, blood is thicker than water.
	They're like, Women don't offer anything friendship-wise that I'm looking for.
	I don't have deep conversations with women about shit that matters to me.
	I like women.
	I have good conversations with women when I talk to them, but I don't ever consider women like my best friend, right?
	Like, I had this conversation the other day and, I don't know, this chick got dumped by this guy and I said, well, what happened?
	Like, why did he dump her?
	And the answer was, well, He was looking for a best friend in the relationship too.
	And I was like, whoa, this guy's watched way too many fucking Disney movies.
	He doesn't know what the hell he's talking about.
	But that's, but that's what a lot of guys think.
	You know, it's, you know, men and women should be best friends, like your wife, your girlfriend, your partner, whatever should be your best friend.
	But it's not true.
	Yeah, no, I completely disagree.
	And I completely agree with you.
	I mean, I disagree with the notion.
	And women have tried that.
	They've tried to come in between me and Andrew.
	I mean, good luck.
	But they say stupid things like, oh, you're in your 30s.
	And you're both still living in the same house.
	And you just want to hang out with people all the time.
	Yeah, they try to shape you.
	Don't you think that's weird?
	I said, no.
	No, it's not weird.
	You don't talk to your sister.
	Don't you think that's weird?
	Yeah.
	You don't have a good relationship with your father.
	Like, who are you to judge my friendship with my brother, right?
	No, they haven't got a clue.
	So, my next question, you obviously get a lot of smoke and you get a lot of flack and these caring groups, as you referred to them.
	I'm going to remember that term.
	I've never heard it before.
	Do come at you very hard.
	Is there a reason why you are so public with your face, your image?
	Why aren't you, let's say, an anon account?
	Cause you, I mean, you could, you tweet good content.
	You could be an anonymous account and still get your message across.
	Why do you put your face up?
	Yeah.
	To be honest with you, I didn't think about it when I started doing what I was doing.
	I was just like, I don't give a fuck.
	Like, you know, I've got a great business.
	I've got money.
	Like I don't bend the knee to anybody.
	I don't really care what your opinion is.
	I'm, I'm just that zero fucks given kind of guy.
	Like I've always kind of been that way.
	Um, so I just continued using my name and my face.
	There's a lot of guys out there that use their face, but they don't use the real name.
	Yes.
	And I understand why they do it.
	And there's a lot of guys that also don't use the real name or the real face.
	And I have a hard time believing somebody or forming a connection or trusting what they're saying if I can't evaluate who they are.
	Like, I know Tristan Tate.
	I know Andrew Tate.
	I've talked to your brother more than I've talked to you.
	I can size you up, right?
	Like if somebody were to say to me, well, what do you think of the Tate brothers?
	Do you think that they're legit?
	Do you think they're full of shit?
	Do they rent their cars?
	Where do they get their money from?
	Blah, blah, blah.
	I have a pretty good idea that you guys are pretty much as close to the posts that you guys make.
	Like that would be your reality.
	But there's a lot of people that I just don't fucking trust because I can't see them.
	I can't look into their eyes and I can't judge their character.
	I can judge their character by their voice.
	Like there's some faceless Anon accounts that broadcast over YouTube or Twitter, for example, and you hear their voice and they sound like soy, right?
	It's like, dude, you sound like somebody with a, you know, with a patchy ass neck bird, probably living in your mom's basement with low tea drinking soy milk, right?
	But lots of guys will follow that advice.
	And I think that men especially need to evaluate, they need to consider the source.
	My dad always used to tell me when I was a kid, Rich, you know, you always have to consider the source.
	When somebody throws hate at you, ask yourself, are you willing to change your life with this person?
	Right?
	Like, are you willing to trade lives with them?
	And the answer has always been no, whenever I've looked at them.
	Whenever somebody hates me, it's like, I would never trade my life for yours.
	Like, who are you?
	Yeah, no, you're completely right.
	And what you have to look out for, the add-on accounts as well, are the famous, I call them the mask slips, when they play their character.
	And there was, and I don't remember his name, but I remember someone outed him, but there was a guy who tried to play the rich kind of playboy type of character, and he did it quite well for a while.
	And then someone found out he was like some 19 year old fat kid living in his, living in his mother's basement, who walked around in shorts and sandals all day.
	I can't remember the exact case, but yeah, a lot, Well, I mean, we've seen a few.
	Like, there was one guy on Twitter that, I don't know, your brother had a falling out with, but he was in a full-on, like, you know, faceless account.
	I can't remember his name.
	Illimitable Man.
	Tell your son this.
	That was it.
	Yeah.
	And he was, I'm stoic.
	This is how to deal with women.
	This is how to treat women.
	And a lot of this stuff sounded very good.
	And he literally had a full on mental breakdown and threatened to kill himself over an internet girlfriend, which I don't even think the term is real.
	Internet girlfriends are, as far as I'm concerned, working for somebody like me, hustling you for your money.
	If you haven't met the girl, that's what she is.
	She's not your actual girlfriend.
	But this guy was threatening to blow his brains out over some chick and that all leaked out.
	And like, man, I mean, talk about a mask slip.
	How can you preach this stuff if that's you?
	Yeah.
	I mean, bro, like, this is my real name.
	This is me.
	You know, come at me, right?
	Exactly.
	Which is why, I mean, you know what?
	At the very beginning, when Andrew first kind of went public, he was verified on Twitter with his first account, and a lot of people started coming at him.
	It never bothered Andrew, but it bothered me.
	I'm like, these people are saying these things.
	I used to type replies to them.
	I just completely give up.
	Now, I mean, people type the worst shit possible.
	They'll mock my dead dad.
	They'll say that they hope my kids are born with deformities.
	I mean, like, literally the worst shit you could imagine.
	And I read, and I smile, and I laugh, and I raise my glass, and I go and drive my Ferrari around.
	Like, I don't care.
	You mentioned you'd dig it over.
	I have a system that I adopted.
	I saw a conversation between Bill Burr and Joe Rogan, and they were talking about this very thing.
	And I can't remember who it was that said it, but post and ghost.
	It's post and never read the comments.
	And I find if you waste too much time reading the comments of these faceless non-accounts of people that have an opinion for everything, They don't know what the fuck they're talking about 99% of the time.
	Exactly.
	They're just, oh, I'm an expert because I have an internet connection and I can now post things on somebody's video or a Twitter post or whatever.
	It's like, dude, hop on a cast like this.
	Let me see your face.
	Where do you live, right?
	Exactly.
	I mean, it's very easy also when you're pretending to play a character.
	You just read people who are the real deal, and you just kind of emulate the kind of things they say.
	I mean, when you don't show your face... It's a mask, like you said.
	Yeah, it's super, super easy to do.
	But the mask does slip.
	Famously, an account I came out with, I came out with him recently, Rivelino, bragging about how many women he sleeps with and what a playboy he is.
	And I literally said to him, I was like, yeah, you post... Is that the guy with the lines?
	Yeah, the lion guy.
	I mean, I'm six foot four.
	There are pictures of me with women where I'm probably leaning in and hunching down.
	Yeah, you have to when you're smaller.
	I need to get into the camera frame, you know?
	I'm a big dude, and I'm as alpha as they come.
	No, bro, you're beta.
	Look at the line.
	I mean, what was it?
	Hap Thor Bjornsson, the world's biggest, strongest man.
	I mean, he had one of those negative red lines.
	I mean, I was like... Seven foot tall, 500 pounds.
	Why don't you go up to his face?
	Yeah.
	call him a baiter.
	You know, he'll snap you in half.
	Literally, I wouldn't, I wouldn't try to fight that guy.
	Jesus, he's a monster.
	But yeah, the Rivelino.
	So I got to set him up.
	I asked him, I said, hey man, you have really good tweets.
	He was like, oh, Tristan Tate likes me.
	Tristan Tate.
	Then he was posting about all these girls he had.
	I said, hey bro, post some pictures.
	He went, no, no, no, I'm Anon.
	I was like, yeah, yeah, stay Anon, but post some pictures of the girls.
	Blur their faces.
	Don't show yourself.
	Don't tell us your name.
	Stay Anon.
	Not saying that he fucking just broke down.
	The mask does slip eventually, and he said something stupid like he slept with seven women in four years or some bullshit.
	Good number for the average dude, I guess, but you're a playboy, and you think that's the number?
	It reminded me of the scene in The 40-Year-Old Virgin, when the guy's talking about feeling that girl's tit and how it felt like a sandbag.
	He's just throwing things out there, hoping that he's going to land a hit.
	Oh, seven in four years?
	Yeah, that's good.
	He had no idea how bad that was.
	To a guy like me.
	I mean, you've seen my journal I keep, so... Jesus, I can't take that seriously.
	Okay, so we're going to move on.
	Yeah, we're going to move on from add-ons.
	It's more about what you teach because you're one of the guys that I can look at and I can think, okay, I can learn something from Rich Cooper.
	When I'm 46, I mean, you're in great shape, you're strong, you're still driving around in your super car, you're still living life on your own terms.
	I'm not going to ask you about your relationship status, et cetera, but you look like a very happy, very fulfilled man.
	And I've met 46 year olds who look like shit.
	They're one or two years away from a heart attack.
	I mean, they literally are at the end of the road and I don't feel anything could save them.
	So you're the kind of guy that can teach people things.
	So you talk a lot about maintaining frame.
	Now, I'm asking you this, honestly, because I don't really understand what that means.
	Because I think frame, the way you put it, some guys have it, and some guys don't.
	I think characters like myself and my brother have always held our frame, I guess, quite well.
	I've never had to learn anything from a book.
	But we do have 535 people watching us right now.
	A lot of people don't know what that is.
	Can you touch on that and go into it a little bit?
	Well, why don't we use the example that you guys preach the most, which is comply or goodbye.
	Like that is frame control.
	It's, you know, these are the boundaries that I'm going to set for you, sweetheart, because I love you and I care for you.
	And if you go outside of those boundaries, it's goodbye.
	And that's all that frame control really is, is she needs to be in the frame of a strong, masculine man that she admires, that she respects, that she adores.
	And that's essentially what you're aiming to do.
	But most guys don't do that.
	What they'll do is they'll just get a stamp, like Chris Rock talked about in his standup, Never Scared, I think it was, and they'll just stamp everything.
	Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, honey, yes, yes, yes.
	And The process of making all of these concessions over a period of time is known as betatization over a thousand concessions.
	It starts with something like, honey, put the white socks in the white hamper and the dark socks in the dark hamper and don't brush your teeth over there by the window because it's going to get on the carpet, blah, blah, blah, chirp.
	And it turns into, let's go vegan together.
	And then a few years later, it turns into, I love you, but I don't love you anymore.
	Because over time, and you see these guys all the time, right?
	I mean, like, you see all these 40-year-old guys, 50-year-old guys, they've got, like, the barbed wire tattoo, like, around their arm, you know, when it was cool back in the day, but now they're fat, you know, they look horrible.
	They've got some care and wife chirping them all the time, who's 300 pounds, that doesn't respect him, hasn't had sex with him in forever, and he's just miserable.
	And this is why frame is important, because in every relationship, one person enters the other person's frame.
	If you're a strong masculine guy running God mode, she's going to be in your frame.
	But for the most part, the vast majority of society with men, men are operating in their wives frame.
	They almost always defer to her.
	As the leader in the relationship and society programs that, right?
	Like it encourages it.
	You know, it's why you see guys like one of the things that makes me sick is when you see these guys make these posts on social media, a picture of him and his girlfriend or him and his wife.
	And it's like our five year, our 10 year anniversary, my much, much better half.
	I couldn't have done all of this shit without her, blah, blah, blah, blah.
	And then you click through on her and it's fucking crickets.
	She's got nothing nice to say about the guy.
	And.
	You know who runs that relationship, right?
	So that's really what frame is, if that makes sense.
	Yeah, I mean, the equivalent, I guess, for the younger generation is when you see a guy going to exotic locations.
	I mean, he's in, I don't know, Jamaica, Mexico, Barbados with his girlfriend, and there's pictures of them holding hands on the beach, and there's pictures of them eating dinner together, and there's pictures of them at the restaurants.
	And then you click on her profile, and it's just so... You know he's holding the camera.
	That's the guy he is, you know, taking the hot Instagram pic so she can have her Yeah, he's the Instagram boyfriend.
	Yeah, exactly.
	So she can get her followers up and get hit up by dudes with blue tics who have a higher social value than him.
	What I like to do when I travel is I like to fuck with these guys, right?
	So like I'll see them taking pictures of their girlfriends and I'll just walk up to them.
	I'll be like, you know, tap them on the shoulder and be like, hey man, are you one of those Instagram boyfriends?
	I mean, that's what they are.
	And then I'll turn around and walk away and I'll be like, you know she's going to use that to get the attention of other guys on her Instagram account.
	I'll just fucking cruise away.
	Because that's what an Instagram account is.
	That's what it's for.
	I mean, I always say, if you, if I have a main chick or a side chick even, if I'm running, I don't know how many, depending on how many relationships I'm running, if I have a girl who says she's in love with me, I'll hang out with her, I'll say delete Instagram.
	If she doesn't instantly comply and delete her Instagram and not give a fuck, does she really love me?
	Like, no, because women love attention.
	They crave attention constantly.
	They're always checking their likes.
	They're always checking their feed.
	Oh, who's this person who likes to meet girls and guys?
	And that's never ever a good thing.
	So I mean, I let girls keep their social media.
	I'm not some weird controlling guy, but that is a good test for you for young guys out there.
	Tell her to delete your Instagram.
	She won't do it.
	Then it's Instagram and other male attention over you.
	Yeah.
	I'll put it this way because I spent some time in my book and a couple of chapters on this very topic.
	But if you're vetting a chick for a long-term relationship, I mean, for mother stock, if you're looking for a wife or something like that, for whatever crazy reason, you're thinking about getting married.
	If she's running an Instagram account and it's not a business, like she's not selling something, she doesn't have a product or service that she sells, that's the reason why she runs it and it's public.
	She's basically on the ice trying to score a goal.
	She's going to be selling herself and marketing herself publicly with the post.
	So, if you see these sexy posts, these provocative posts, it's just her and all this sort of stuff, then you've got somebody that's still looking to actively upgrade.
	And what you said is true.
	You've got to put your foot down and say, look, girlfriends with boyfriends don't behave this way.
	So, you can either make your Instagram account private, where it's just you and your family, or you can delete it, right?
	Yeah.
	Oh, or I mean, a third option is every third or fourth pitcher have pictures with me.
	You know, I love my boyfriend, blah, blah, blah.
	You know, I mean, that's acceptable enough.
	But as someone like me, as public as I am, I would I would never want that, but for a lot of guys that is an option.
	So yeah, pug's pictures of us together.
	Right.
	By all means, you know, because then she can still show off her life, show off her little vacation, show off her new shoes and whatever and try and build her following because maybe she wants to be a fucking influencer or whatever it is.
	But it's very clear she has a boyfriend and some girls do have Instagram accounts like that.
	There are some girls with millions of followers who are with their husbands, she's married and half their pictures are with their husband.
	Yeah.
	Fair enough.
	You know, I think that's still acceptable because they're not advertising themselves as available.
	But man, I see all the time and I put this on Twitter the other day.
	These girls... I said this and you'll understand this actually.
	You're a high social value guy.
	We're going to move on to what social value is in a moment and your takes on it.
	But I said, if you're a beautiful woman, you see the worst aspects of male character.
	The unsolicited dick pictures, the I'm going to rape you if I see you, all that nonsense.
	But if you're a high value man, you see the worst aspects of female character.
	And I posted a screenshot of some girl who was begging me to take her to Dubai.
	Oh, you're in Dubai.
	I want to fly out with you.
	I'll come and see you.
	I don't fly girls out, you know, unless I mean long-term girlfriends I'm going on vacation with, but I don't fly girls out to Dubai who I don't know.
	That's not my game.
	I told her no.
	And a few weeks later, she posted some picture of her and some dude saying two years with my baby.
	And I was like, what?
	He's lucky I don't fly girls out to Dubai.
	I would have taken his girl from him.
	And yeah, she's advertising.
	She's advertising for something better.
	Just like you said.
	Alpha seed, beta need, man.
	You know, it's just common out there.
	It's so common.
	Hilarious.
	So, yeah, social value.
	Now, you preach a lot about maintaining social value.
	Now, I've seen guys actively, so this is advice you could probably give to me, I've seen guys actively deteriorate from the ages of 30 to 40 in quite a big way.
	Obviously, I think I know how to avoid that.
	I see myself and my value as a man certainly going up every single year.
	I'm 32.
	I'm nowhere near peak.
	What would you say to younger guys, maybe guys of my age or late 20s about maintaining your social value as you go?
	Well, I think your social value – I mean, if you're a guy on a purpose that's chasing excellence in life, it's going to go up by osmosis.
	It's not like you're going to have to try that hard.
	You and your brother, as an example, I can't see why you wouldn't be wealthier as you get older and have more reach and more influence.
	I mean, as long as you don't do anything stupid and fuck it up, basically.
	You'll be on the right path and the right trajectory.
	The thing that guys need to understand is there's still, you know, the importance of optics, right?
	Like what you look like.
	I know what my value is in the sexual marketplace.
	I know what my, you know, detractors are and I know what my positives are, right?
	Like I'm a bald man.
	So what am I going to do?
	Am I going to hold on to scraps?
	Okay.
	Well, that's one thing I can do.
	I can get a hair transplant.
	I can tattoo my scalp or I can just shave a fucking thing, grow a bitching beard and just look, you know, have a look.
	Yeah.
	I'm a year or two away from that, by the way, you know, my hair is not what it used to be when I was 25.
	But I mean, it's still there for now, but one or two years, I'll just shave my head, you know, and I'll grow a bigger beard.
	Yeah, it's, it's, it's part of life, like it's part of aging, like you understand, but You know, like as I look around at other guys my age, like I'm 47 now, but as I look around at other guys my age, most of them don't even look anything close to me, right?
	Like I can date women as young as her early 20s all the way up to 50 if I want.
	I mean older even if I want, but I don't even mess with anything that old to be honest with you.
	But yeah, like you want to look the part.
	What's the point in having money, having a great social circle, having fun stuff to do if you're living in an unhealthy, inflamed, sick body, you're overweight, your knees hurt, you can't fucking walk, you know, you get out of the shower and you look down.
	Yeah, you get out of the shower, you look down, you can't see your dick because you got a big fat belly covering it up.
	Like, there's so many guys out there that could improve their lifestyle just by taking some ownership and really doubling down and doing some work on themselves.
	And I get hate for that all the time.
	Oh, Rich, why do you tell guys to do that?
	Like, the juice isn't worth the squeeze, it's not worth it, blah, blah.
	Okay, fine.
	Go sit in your corner and cry about it.
	I don't care.
	Do whatever you want.
	More for you.
	Yeah.
	More for people like you.
	Yeah, exactly.
	I mean, I always say anyone can do it, but not everyone can do it.
	In terms of, you know, because if everyone did it, it wouldn't be special.
	So, I mean, if everyone stayed in shape and got rich and drove supercars around and, you know, read books and became smart, I mean, it would suck.
	It would mean nothing.
	So, yeah.
	Well, that's the thing, though.
	You know, that I find funny is there's so many guys complaining about stuff online on an ongoing basis, and they just sound like these whingy, whiny little bitches, and they don't understand how unattractive that is to the world, to women.
	Like, women want to be with high-value guys.
	Men want to be high-value guys.
	It's innate.
	It's in our DNA.
	Stop fighting it.
	Stop lying to yourself, right?
	Or just shut up and sit in the corner and cry about it with, you know, the rest of the people that want to cry about it.
	And when these crybabies call people like you lucky, I've used this example on myself, but I'm going to translate it to you.
	In an alternate universe somewhere, sitting in Canada, there was a 46-year-old man named Rich Cooper, who is 6'2", he still has his height, but he's fat, and he's old, he's had two heart bypasses already, and he never gave a shit about his appearance, and he never went to the gym, and he never made money, and he's broke.
	So people say, oh, well, you're lucky.
	There's no luck involved because a lot of work comes into it.
	I mean, yes, I'm tall, but the years of being a professional athlete, all the hard work that went into business, these crybabies don't understand that it's not just luck.
	You're not just a high-value dude or you're not.
	You have to look smacks, right?
	There's some areas of my, again, I'm bald.
	I've got third-degree burns all over my chest.
	I don't know if you can see here on my chest, right?
	Okay, so I've got burns on my chest, I've got burns on my arms, I have to wear glasses to read shit, right?
	Like I don't have great vision, right?
	So I'm not perfect, right?
	But you have to max out in the areas that you can control, right?
	And see, Women have patience for a 22-year-old guy that's an alpha chad with a plan, but they don't have patience for a guy that's 46 years old with a plan.
	They don't care, right?
	Women hang out at the finish line and they fuck the winners.
	That's how they operate.
	Yeah, you're right.
	No, you're right.
	And I found that as my values increased more and more and more, I have found that.
	But what I do is I just fuck the girls waiting at the finish line and I leave them back there for somebody else to marry.
	So be the winner at the finish line.
	That's really as simple as that, right?
	Exactly.
	But yeah, guys like to complain.
	Guys don't really, you know, they don't take ownership.
	I think they don't take responsibility.
	So you're talking, you're talking about, okay, you're, I mean, I'm losing my hair.
	I got, my teeth aren't straight.
	My nose has been broken a few times, but as you know, Women don't find men attractive for the same reason men find women attractive.
	I mean, I wouldn't date a woman who was losing her hair with crooked teeth and a broken nose.
	I wouldn't, but plenty of women date me.
	It's not about looks so much for men.
	It's about being a man, being manly.
	Certainly being in shape is very, very important, but you can be ugly as fucking in shape.
	I know guys who look like monsters with beautiful wives.
	You know, their faces have been smashed up in the MMA cage and, you know, they're dating nine out of ten fucking models here in Romania, certainly.
	Yeah, looks, money, status, right?
	Like, those are the main things.
	Game, of course, you know, game can be an equalizer if you know how to game women.
	Yeah, yeah, and good for them.
	Now, you've... I don't know exactly what ages you were married in between.
	I don't think it matters that much.
	I'm going to ask you, because I have quite a young audience, especially a lot of the people from Eastern Europe watching me.
	They'll be 16 to 18.
	How have you found, and the latter part of your answer is going to help me as well, how have you found, let's call it the sexual marketplace or the dating marketplace or just dating or meeting women as a man, different throughout the decades?
	As you get older, you should, in effect, become better with game and with women.
	If you're paying attention to stuff, you should be learning from your lessons.
	Don't lose when shit goes sideways.
	Learn from the experience.
	There's a silver lining in it.
	Pick yourself back up.
	Don't cry like a bitch.
	Dust off your shoulders and get back to work.
	So, as you get older, your value as a man should increase.
	With that being said, if it is increasing, then you should have better experiences with women.
	Like, I have better experiences now than what I did in my 20s, okay?
	You're never going to get away from, you know, you're going to have the best sex of your life in your 20s because everything's working like all the cylinders are firing 100%.
	Like when you get older, you start getting on testosterone replacement therapy.
	You never thought about things like Cialis when you're fucking 20, right?
	But these are all things that you introduce in your life and your protocol.
	you know, because you want to live as an optimized guy and have a good experience with women.
	But as you get older, you will have to do more work. Like your body does break down, right? One of the things that I always tell guys over and over again, that they probably don't listen to that I probably wouldn't have listened to when I was 20 or 16 or whatever, but time flies, Like, I can think back to times when I was 21, 22, 23, wasting time doing some of the dumbest shit in my life that I probably could have used for better outcomes.
	But I never thought about it because at 22 years old, you're way closer to your birth date than you are the grave.
	At 47, I'm probably closer to the grave than I am my birth date now, right?
	A man of my size, I'm there already.
	I mean, 32.
	I should live more than 65, 66.
	Yeah, most big guys don't live too long.
	There's not a lot of, you know, big, you know, six foot whatever guys that are 90 years old.
	They don't live that long.
	No, it's true.
	So, I'm probably about the halfway point if I'm lucky.
	But, you know, it is what it is.
	Better to live 100 years as a lion than 100 years as a sheep.
	Cheap, yeah.
	That old thing.
	So, you know, I'll take that.
	I'm perfectly fine being a six foot four, 110 kilogram man.
	That's fine by me.
	So, you have said before, and I'm going to get on to a few things that we don't agree on in a moment.
	Let's do it.
	Which is going to be a lot of fun.
	But you said before, and this one I'm 50-50 about, but I'd like you to explain your point of view when you say there's no such thing as that women are either good or women are either bad.
	There's no such thing as a perfect woman.
	Yeah, I don't think there's a perfect woman.
	I think that women are just women.
	Yes, but I'm going to throw something out there to you.
	It's kind of the opposite of something that I like to teach.
	I believe if you meet a woman young enough with low enough body count, plenty of naivety, plenty of respect, still a healthy respect for men, so probably a good relationship with her father, I believe you could convert women.
	Um, to your perfect woman.
	There's no woman that's perfect for every single man, but I know guys.
	Um, and I'm not going to say their names, but you probably know exactly who I'm thinking of guys.
	I know very, very well who have women who they met when they were 16 and they are essentially for all intents and purposes.
	Perfect for that man.
	Would you, would you not agree?
	Yeah.
	Like, I mean, guys use the term training women and, um, people hate the term, but it's true.
	Yeah, whatever.
	I mean, I suppose you can train them by enforcing boundaries, but when I say that, you know, women are just women, it's because guys are always like, well, I'm looking for a high value woman.
	Like, how do I find a good girl?
	Blah, blah, blah.
	And it's like, you know, the thing that you have to understand, like I mentioned earlier, not all women can destroy a man in family court, but all women Could, right?
	So not to say that they're going to do it, but they could.
	So when I say that, you know, women are just women, I think that if you understand female nature, that's what matters more than, you know, let's try to decipher the good ones from the bad ones.
	I mean, you definitely want to keep the bad ones out of your life.
	You don't want to invite them to your inner circle.
	You don't want to have Anything on a long-term basis with them.
	So you should be repelling those out of your life.
	So yeah, you definitely want to make decisive choices when it comes to these women that you invite inside.
	But generally speaking, all women are pretty much the same when it comes to their operating system.
	They use pretty much the same firmware.
	Can you enforce boundaries?
	Can you do some work with that?
	For sure.
	Yeah, of course.
	Okay.
	Fair enough.
	So I think that we're in disagreement.
	It's just I'm looking at it as an older guy because I'm 47.
	Yeah.
	And we'll see.
	And the problem is with women is, and I'll say it right here, right now, and God knows which women I know that are watching this.
	So I'm probably going to get my phone blowing up with a bunch of insults after this.
	But also, you know, you can get the perfect woman.
	But you know, time is the fire in which we all burn and women expire before men do.
	I mean, you can be 24, you can have a 16 year old wife, it's all going perfectly fine.
	You love her and it's great.
	And then suddenly you're 50 and you're still still got the hots for women in their early 20s.
	And yeah, she just doesn't cut it anymore.
	Which is, you know, which is, which is why I think women need to stick to their gender role, have some kids, have your babies in their value is in, in being a mother and gender roles is something that you talk a lot about.
	Now, it's also something that I judge women on who's a good one, who's a bad one.
	I think a very early women is how to stand gender roles.
	Do you want to go into this a bit?
	Cause it's something that you talk a lot about.
	Yeah, I mean, like, you'll see these women that think that they're high value and they deserve a high value guy because they're a third year law student.
	Yeah.
	So, like, even if you get a degree, frame it in mahogany and put it on your wall.
	Like, I married a lawyer.
	Like, I know what it's like to be with a lawyer.
	I don't care, right?
	Like, women don't share their pot of gold with men.
	And in fact, any woman that gets into a profession where It's designed to create acrimony where they're designed to, you know, fight with the other side on a consistent basis.
	Guess what?
	That's going to invite itself into your relationship, right?
	Now, why would you want to get involved or mess with a chick like that when you can find a woman that's more compliant, that's more feminine, that will defer to the masculine and look at you as her best option, not, I don't need no man to control me or any of that.
	Like, fine.
	Enjoy your cats.
	I don't care.
	And that's one thing I will say about Eastern Europe.
	I've met women here, 18, 19 years of age.
	I say, oh, what do you want to do?
	What do you want to be?
	They say, oh, I'd like to find a good man and get married and have a family.
	And they have a body count of zero or one.
	Like these women who exist out here.
	I think in the West, it's a lot harder.
	I'd say probably, my guess would be Canada's probably better than the United States.
	The United States is...
	Bro, you could date a hundred women, like you could go out with a hundred women here, and one might be worth a second or third date.
	Jesus, is it that bad?
	It's brutal here.
	Oh man.
	It's brutal.
	Yeah.
	So here's another question.
	This is something we may disagree on, because I largely disagree with you in every aspect of this, but I'm going to hit you with some exceptions that you probably haven't heard.
	So, single mothers.
	Fuck him, don't fuck him, date him, don't date him.
	Hit me, Richard.
	What do you have?
	You played him, you don't date him.
	You played him, you don't date him.
	I mean, the extent of your involvement with single mothers, and as you get older, guys, you're going to run into more women that have children in tow from past Relationships.
	I cover single mothers an entire chapter in my book.
	Okay.
	There's really a lot to get in with this one, but at the end of the day, the juice really isn't worth the squeeze because the amount of extra liability that you take on dating a single mother, it's just not worth it.
	I mean, you're far better off finding a woman that doesn't have children because your life is that much simpler.
	Yeah, you know what?
	You've already hit the nail on the head.
	When you said play him and don't date him, I didn't think you were going to throw that one out there because I had an example for you I was going to hit you with.
	I've dated lots of single mothers.
	I know that you have as well.
	I mean, there was one famous one that was a total smoke show, right?
	Yeah, mine was very attractive as well that I got into my LTR with.
	I mean, she looked like Jennifer Aniston.
	I'd go on vacation, people would be like, oh wow, you know, all this sort of, but the thing that you got to remember is all of that stuff goes away when you start dealing with the drama that comes along with her bringing some other dude's child in tow from a past relationship into your life.
	I never saw that woman's kid.
	And I'm sure the people are going to start, the Romanians watching, are going to start typing her name out in the comments.
	So I'm not going to say her name.
	But yeah, she's a millionaire.
	She's super famous.
	Super famous television presenter.
	Looks like a smoking hot model.
	Now, the guys, you're not one of them, but there are guys out there who curse all single mothers and say, don't go near him.
	Don't touch him.
	And I always say, like with a picture of this woman, you're telling me that this loser wouldn't touch this girl.
	Like, come on.
	I mean, play him, don't date him.
	Play him, don't date him.
	Yeah, I'll break down the exception for you because I put it in my chapter.
	In the chapter on single moms, I break down every reason why you want to stay away from them.
	Trust me, there's far more why you want to stay away from them than you'd want to invoke in your life.
	The one exception that I would consider it if it existed would be, well, I've got a kid.
	If she had a kid the same age, same gender as mine, and she had all of her shit together, didn't bring any other baggage to the table, had no other red flags, then and only then I might consider it.
	But for that to happen, it's like, you know, finding a pot of gold at the end of the rainbow.
	You don't go looking for it.
	You don't go, well, if I have the choice between this kid that, you know, this chick that doesn't have kids and the one that's got these three kids from two different guys, who are you going to date?
	I'm going to make time for this one.
	And that's what most guys should be doing.
	Absolutely, and it's exactly what I do.
	You read my blog, which is coming out at the end of this year.
	I might turn it into a book, we'll see, but you see that I play on different levels.
	The amount of time I will invest in a woman like that is simply for the, you know, go to a restaurant, have your sex, have your fun, drink some champagne.
	I'd never meet anyone's kids, spend time with anyone's kids, pick up another man's kid.
	You are very, very right on single mothers, but I thought you were going to say, Stay away under all circumstances.
	In which case, I was going to hit you with that one exception.
	So, you know.
	No, I get, I get lost.
	Bro, I get lots of guys.
	Yeah, yeah.
	I mean, like, I get lots of guys that are, like, sending me field reports and conversations with, you know, single mothers and it's like, look, if you're dating them, like, if you just want to, like, have a friends with benefit type of relationship, okay, fine.
	But when you start complaining to me about the shit that's going down because of her kids behaving badly and the baby daddy drama, it's like, okay, why did you invite this into your life?
	Like, why did you take it to that level?
	Right?
	Like, blame yourself for this.
	Exactly.
	And to be fair, single mothers where I live aren't really that common.
	In the United States, I mean, I don't really- They're pretty common here.
	Yeah, I don't date in North America very much, but I swipe on Tinder if I travel, you know, and you just see, I've got three kids, I've got two kids, I've got eight kids, I've got- I'm just like, the fuck?
	Why would I meet you?
	Some of them are even pregnant when they're on the dating apps.
	I know you post these.
	Your posts are absolutely atrocious.
	Those are my favorite ones.
	To be fair here, it's a more traditional society.
	I've never seen anything like that.
	I think even if a woman was left in a situation where she was pregnant without a man, she's not downloading Tinder.
	No, no, no.
	Not over here.
	Not in the most Orthodox church.
	I know, but here, they've got no shame, man.
	Yeah, I know.
	It's ridiculous.
	One of the girls I dated here, I famously said she was a 26-year-old virgin.
	And she was nine!
	And people say, oh, no, I don't believe it.
	There's no such thing as a 26-year-old virgin.
	I'm like, okay, you think I, Tristan Tate, don't know a virgin when he fucks one?
	Like, seriously.
	Fucking give me a break.
	But yeah, in North America, I mean, that's a unicorn.
	I think that's basically mythical, isn't it?
	In England, it certainly is.
	That's where I lived for a long time.
	I remember I was in England for three months in my early 20s, and there was a lot of single moms pushing around kids in prams.
	It's only got worse.
	It's only got worse.
	I love to talk about them on my Twitter and talk about how they mismanage their families.
	I attract all sorts of smoke and all sorts of hate for that, but largely I'm right.
	Like with you, when the haters are coming at you, but you're basically right all the time.
	Well, people don't get mad if it's a lie, right?
	They're just like, ah, whatever.
	You know, they only get mad and they only get offended if it's true.
	Like a bomber only gets flak from the target, right?
	Yeah.
	Or if there's an element of truth to it, that's when people get most offended.
	Someone, you know, I mean, it was, it was Troy Francis saying the other day, people keep calling him a homosexual.
	He's like, I don't care if you call me a homosexual because I'm not.
	And this one came out of him for like being into BDSM.
	He was like, I wrote a book about being into BDSM.
	What the fuck are you talking about?
	Like, oh no, you caught me.
	Yeah, I know, yeah.
	What next?
	The Tate Brothers or webcam pimps?
	Like, what's the next big story?
	Which brings me to a point where we will have some slight disagreement on, and I'm super interested to hear this.
	All right.
	OnlyFans.
	OnlyFans is the big one right now on Twitter.
	Everybody's talking about OnlyFans, especially now in the pandemic with every single girl trying to get a part of this hustle.
	And yeah, I get it.
	It's filled with cheap, trashy, dirty women you wouldn't want to touch.
	I mean, that's the nature of a business like this.
	But what do you think about, could you date a girl who does OnlyFans?
	Would you recommend it to younger guys?
	Well, you guys are unique, right?
	Like, you operate in God mode, so you have to understand that, you know, when I say things about certain areas like OnlyFans, generally speaking, most guys, if they're messing with women on OnlyFans, it's because they're simping and they're throwing the money, or two, they're a guy dating a chick on OnlyFans, she's getting all the money and using it, and he's taking the pictures for her, getting no value out of it.
	You guys flip the script, though.
	You're like, all right, well, we've run webcam businesses, so let's show these girls how to be an OnlyFan.
	Yeah.
	check and if they're giving you money, fine, whatever. I mean, I wouldn't want like the mother of my kids to be on OnlyFans or anything like that, but I understand the model that you use so I can't really fault it. So we're not in disagreement from that perspective. It's just the way that most guys look at OnlyFans right now in the West. It's like they're just throwing money at these garden tools all day long thinking that they're going to win over their affection, and their attention, their love.
	And then on the flip side of the coin, there's some bonehead that's taking all the pictures while she's raking in all the money, getting all the attention from these guys, and he has nothing to show for it but a bunch of pictures of her on his phone that he's taken.
	You're right, you're right.
	But the character of the type of woman, I really do believe that a lot of the flack that OnlyFans girls take is because in the West, The trashiest women.
	In the West, women can get careers.
	In the West, a woman can make $50,000 per year working at whatever job after getting her law degree, etc.
	But there's women that make $50,000 a month leaving their husband.
	There was this one example that I came across last year.
	I'm sure you know the one.
	She was a pastor and she was married.
	She had two or three kids or something like that.
	She left her husband at 37.
	You're going to be an OnlyFans model, right?
	Like, give me a freaking break, lady.
	Grow up, man.
	But hey, listen, you know, she's making $50,000 a month.
	The good side of it all is she's probably paying him money now because family law is written in such a way that it basically piles both the incomes in a pot and splits them down the middle.
	There's no way he's making $50,000 a month, so at least he's getting that out of it.
	Exactly.
	Let's hope so.
	Let's hope so.
	But I'll take this.
	A quick second to say that there are girls, especially in Eastern Europe, who treat OnlyFans webcamming like a career.
	They'll have a body count of one.
	They'll have husbands.
	They'll be married.
	But there's no other way for them to bring in $150,000 a year.
	And they treat it very professionally.
	It's essentially like being an actress.
	But when you meet them in real life, they aren't hoes.
	And I'll say that there are girls on OnlyFans that aren't hoes.
	Shoot me if you like, but I know this business better than anyone.
	I don't have any personal experience, so I have nothing to say about that.
	I mean, I know a virgin who webcams. Literally, I mean, she's not a virgin because I'm the only guy who's banged her, but she was doing webcam for a year as a virgin. So it's hard to call a virgin a ho.
	Yeah, like the flip side of that too, and I kind of got into this with your brother, I don't know, last year sometime, but we were talking about female employees and he turned it into, well, webcam models, you know, basically aren't that bad of a thing.
	And I'm like, bro, I'm not working with any women employees on a go-forward basis.
	I'm a company of one.
	I don't care.
	I'm not employing women to do anything for me.
	Yeah, no, I understand.
	And especially in the West, man.
	I know, in fact, I'm not gonna say her name, but she's a relative of mine who's a big lawyer in Chicago.
	And she was talking brazenly on her Facebook about a man who kissed a woman.
	At a bar, but the woman worked for him.
	So now the woman's suing him because he had some sort of power or duress over her and she's going to take him for everything he's got.
	I'm like, you can't kiss your employees.
	I mean, I used to have, I used to have 75 webcam models working for me.
	I used to fuck half my employees.
	Andrew would fuck the other half.
	Eastern Europe, man.
	I couldn't run that business in the United States.
	You could run it, but I couldn't run it the way I run it.
	It would have had to be- Hey, listen, if you guys can pull it off, I, you know, I tip my hat to you.
	Awesome.
	All right, fair enough.
	You know what, Richard?
	We don't actually disagree on basically anything, do we?
	I was hoping to get into something, you know, more of a... Well, what about tattooed women?
	Ah, tattooed women.
	Now, this is a good one.
	Okay.
	Now, I have a very unique view on tattooed women because it all depends on the context in which they get their tattoos.
	So, I will say that I know girls who have a body count of one.
	Let's call their ex-boyfriend Christian.
	Now, they have tattoos saying, I love Christian, back of their neck, on their leg, on their hips, etc.
	And they're still with Christian.
	So they're tattooed women with a body count of one who are madly in love.
	I don't know this Christian character.
	I think his last name is Kate.
	But uh, yeah, he's quite a savage cat.
	Now, these women have tattoos.
	Now, are they damaged goods to anyone who gets them after Christian?
	Well, they're basically alpha-widowed.
	Any woman that tattoos the name of a man on her body saw that man as her best possible option because tattoos last a long time.
	So yeah, she's probably going to be alpha-widowed.
	Yeah, but you know what?
	I believe, and we will disagree on this, I don't know what the United... Different countries have different cultures, man.
	I've met women who love the tattooed look, they love the aesthetics of it, just like a lot of men do, and they have been very good girls.
	And maybe, you know, I live in a traditional Christian country where a girl could think, I'm gonna have a tattoo, and I'm gonna have a tattoo here, and they get the rosary beads sometimes tattooed on their wrist.
	I know in America that's a red flag, and that just means, oh, But I've met some girls.
	Now, tattooed women are sluttier than non-tattooed women.
	I'm not gonna die on that hill.
	They are.
	But I've met some girls who are very, very good church-going girls who have a lot of tattoos, man.
	I just have.
	But maybe that's for me.
	I just don't have that experience.
	My experience with tattooed women has always been they've got a lot of red flags and they really have more problems than a Chinese math test going on in their life and I don't want to deal with it.
	Yeah, fair enough.
	And you know what?
	That may just be the difference.
	I'm sure that some exist that aren't mentally insane, but generally speaking, the more tats they have and the greater the frequency of them, the more likelihood there is going to be that she's got some red flags going on in her life.
	I do agree with that.
	I do agree with that.
	I'm saying that, but I think there are more exceptions to the tattoo rule in the country that I live in.
	That's, I guess, the only thing I can put it down to.
	Because keep in mind, I dated English women From age 16 to about 24, and after that... I'm sorry to hear that.
	Yeah, I know.
	Horrible, right?
	No, but you know what?
	To be fair, even when I was 18, 19 to 24, a lot of the girls I was dating were from Poland, Slovakia.
	I speak Polish, I speak Slovak, I learned the languages working at the McDonald's restaurant I used to work at.
	So I used to pick them up in my hometown.
	So I was into Eastern European women, really, as far as my late teens.
	Yeah, I mean, Jesus, I mean, the Eastern European and Russian women are the most beautiful women in the world, hands down, in my opinion.
	But yeah, I lived in Slovakia for a year and a half.
	Now I've lived in Romania for five years.
	I think it's just a different culture and a different experience.
	I think I've met girls here who have got tattoos and thought, I want to get a tattoo.
	I think this will look nice on me.
	And they still have only had one serious boyfriend in their life.
	Their dad didn't beat them up or touch him inappropriately.
	And there's no red flags or trauma.
	I have seen that.
	Now, apparently in the United States, it's a very different game.
	I haven't slept with all that many American women.
	You know, I Tinder around when I'm in LA and California and New York, and the women I meet are always... I mean, they're hot, but...
	Garbage.
	I mean, I think that's just the nature of America, I think.
	But I'm telling you, come out and see me, Rich, one time.
	I'll introduce you to two or three women who have tattoos, and you can judge them for yourself.
	I think that's fair.
	If you're ever in Eastern Europe, you're invited any single time.
	Now, I've heard, and I'm just going to bring this up in a moment because we're coming up, we're over an hour now, we're going to talk about your books momentarily, but I heard that a character by the name of James Altucher opened your eyes to a lot of things.
	Now, I'm a James Altucher fan, and I don't know if you know this, But after my father passed away, I didn't know who James Altucher was.
	But he famously played a chess game against my father at a tournament.
	And he wrote this big write-up about this character that he respected so much for his indomitable spirit.
	And my dad was obviously very famous in the chess world.
	So I became a James Altucher fan after that.
	So when I heard you were into him, I'd like to know who is James Altucher first for the 635 people watching this podcast.
	And what did you learn from him?
	Because I have a lot of respect for that guy.
	He's a very quirky, nerdy, Jew-y looking guy from New York.
	I met him at a conference a few years ago in Napa Valley.
	He was married to an Argentinian girl at the time, I think.
	I think he's divorced from her now, so that was his second wife.
	He's quite clever with his words.
	I mean, Choose Yourself was a good book.
	I recommend you guys take a look at it if it's something you haven't come across.
	I don't spend that much time reading any of his other material, but I like some of the concepts that he put together in some of the blogs.
	I mean, one of the things that I tripped across one time was he was talking about dealing with haters, and haters are like pigs, you know?
	They want you to get down in the mud and roll around with them, and that's what makes them happy.
	Don't waste your time engaging with these pigs, basically, is what he said.
	So, I think he's clever with the way that he writes.
	He's definitely smart when it comes to his writing.
	He's got an interesting podcast.
	I wouldn't lean on him for advice on women.
	I mean, the guy's been married practically three times now, and he hasn't got much of a style about him or exude much in the way of masculinity, but I don't think he would argue those points if I sat beside him and said that.
	No, he wouldn't.
	So, I mean, we've covered basically everything I want to cover.
	Everybody from Romania, Eastern Europe, etc.
	I'm going to do a bit of a question and answer session for the next, no, for about 10 minutes.
	If I read any good questions coming up now, I am now looking at the feed.
	If it's a good question, I'm going to answer it.
	If it's for me or I'll pass it over to Rich, if it's for Rich.
	But for the next five minutes, I want to ask Rich about his books because I didn't know about your books until a couple hours before this podcast when I was doing some reading up.
	So, I mean, you've written a number of titles.
	Tell me about them.
	Tell me what they are.
	So the Unplugged Alpha is my most recent one, really the only one that I would call like the main piece of work because the other stuff I wrote before when I was in the debt business and I was basically putting together DIY guides on how to settle your own debt.
	So this over here again, it's called the Unplugged Alpha, the No Bullshit Guide to Winning with Women in Life.
	It's on Amazon as a Kindle or a print copy.
	If you're in a country where you can't get it because Amazon is unavailable, go to bookdepository.com and they will ship it to you.
	It's basically everything that I've learned throughout my entire life so that you can get better results with women in life and not make stupid mistakes like I did, like get involved with a single mom and her kids or think that women are sugar and spice and all things nice or that marriage is a good idea.
	And I break down in a logical assessed way why you want to pay attention to these things so that you can get better results.
	Basically, I look at life like this.
	If you plot out a map and there's minefields everywhere, you know, single mommy over here, a chick with daddy issues, she's got 7,000 tattoos and a notch count of 7,000.
	You know, you just mark those out on the map and you tend to avoid them.
	So you navigate around them.
	That's really what the book does for guys.
	Okay, absolutely.
	Now, guys, check out the book.
	He just told you where it was available.
	Rewind this video if you don't know.
	The questions you guys are asking are all awful.
	I mean, no offense.
	How do you start a webcam business?
	I tweet about this all day long.
	Check out CobraTech.com.
	Yeah, and a lot of a lot of very personal questions to reach, you know, how do you raise your kids, blah, blah, blah.
	This is this is one of the questions I will throw to you.
	I will throw to you, Rich, because you made a lot of your money when you were younger.
	How I mean, you mentioned you're an entrepreneur, and you ran several businesses, some did well, some didn't.
	But how did you make your money?
	You're obviously a well to do guy.
	Most of it came from the credit card debt relief company.
	It still runs today.
	It's been around for almost 20 years.
	My brother runs a business actually, so I basically moved out of it with the exception to some basic roles that a chairman would do to consult on.
	Yeah, but I ran that business for a long time.
	It was really profitable in the first 7 to 12 years, so it threw off a lot of money.
	I made some good investments with that.
	I I've just, I've just been clever with the money that I've made.
	One of the things that James Altucher talks about, you know, to kind of reference that is you have ideas and you have money and you kind of have to have these things get together and have idea sex and have money sex so that it can make more of it.
	And it's a skill that you have to get good at and you get good at it by just doing it and applying yourself at it.
	So most of the money has been made over time, but again, you know, it just kind of multiplies itself.
	Like you guys know exactly how it works.
	Yeah, I mean, it's one of those questions that doesn't really need answering.
	Now, a bunch of the questions, I'm actually going to basically dismiss this Q&A, because what you need to do for a lot of these questions is check Rich out on Twitter.
	Rich underscore Cooper.
	If you don't have Twitter, get on it right now.
	I'm obviously Liv's Talisman on Twitter.
	If you're watching this podcast, you probably know who I am already.
	Everything that you're asking is answered in the videos that Rich puts out, in the videos that I put out, in the material that we produce.
	But yeah, I just want to say... We give them the YouTube channel so they can find it.
	It's Entrepreneurs in Cars.
	One moment.
	Let me just... Go to the YouTube search card to search for Entrepreneurs in Cars and you'll find it there.
	I'm going to post a link to Rich's YouTube and I want you all to check it out.
	Give me 10 seconds.
	But yeah, every single question that you're asking him, I feel like it'd be very mundane and with not much point in... This is another video by someone else that you did.
	Here we go.
	Yeah, I think it would be very a waste of time to answer these questions right now on my channel when all of the material that you could hope to find is on his YouTube channel right here.
	I've just posted three links in a row.
	Please check this out.
	This is a super chat.
	Five euros.
	Cool.
	But you're both alphas in your own way.
	Any advice to guys?
	There's a lot of work in these areas.
	What should you prioritize in your 20s?
	What should people prioritize in their 20s?
	One question, because he paid for this question.
	So why don't you tell them?
	Don't get into a long-term relationship with a woman.
	Work on yourself.
	I say the same thing.
	Fall in love when you're already rich.
	Right now, it doesn't matter.
	All right, guys.
	Thank you very much for joining me.
	This has been me and Rich Cooper.
	Check him out.
	This is his Twitter.
	This is his YouTube channel.
	It's all now in the feed.
	A lot of the questions are... Ask me privately.
	I'm not going to burn too much of Rich's time asking these questions because a lot of them are about Romanian showbiz and that's not very important and relevant as to what we're doing right now.
	But you know where to find me.
	You know where to check me out.
	Information about the webcam business, information about joining the War Room or learning what I know about how to meet women is available on coprotate.com.
	You know where to find Rich.
	Check out the book.
	Thank you for joining us today.

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