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July 25, 2022 - Tate Speech - Andrew Tate
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Interview: Andrew Tate & Rollo Tomassi
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Hey, how's it going, man?
I haven't seen you in a long, long time.
I wanted to have a get together with you again because I just came up on one year of this channel being a, excuse me real quickly here, this channel just came up on a one year anniversary and you were, I think my, well, you're my first interview, but you were like my second or third show when I just decided to do this, like on my own.
Yeah.
And, um, and people kept asking me, why don't you get Tate on?
Of course, then, you know, you, the, a recent picture, which we'll, we'll get into later, actually, everybody wanted to know what was going on.
And, and, um, I, I, you don't, I don't know, do you do a lot of, um, A lot of interviews because I mean, I know that you do a lot of videos and I know that you keep yourself out there and you're, um, you're, you're highly visible.
It's what, what I would call like certain like e-celebrity, I guess you're highly visible.
Um, you put yourself out there.
Um, I think pretty much everybody who knows you, um, understands what you're about, but, um, Like, do you do other interviews with other people as well?
I don't do too many.
I get a lot of requests.
I get a whole bunch of requests, but you know, I don't, I really don't do too many.
I guess I'm, I'm kind of known now for what I am, the internet pimp, you know, and I get a lot of people who come along and want to ask me things, but there's very few I really speak to.
There's been a couple I've done.
But a lot of people find my views and my themes, especially on females and the way I pay money, etc.
They find them very offensive.
I don't know why.
I don't know why what I do or what I've done or how I think is so offensive.
Well, actually, I do know why.
It's because it blows their minds and they don't want to hear it.
That's what it is.
But a lot of the time I've tried to do interviews with people and I can just tell they're getting upset.
Yeah, you know, it's, it's funny.
Cause like every once in a while, like I, like I talk with you all the time on, on our Twitter DMS and stuff like that.
And you know, you and I've had sort of a friendship for a while now.
And so people will always come to me and ask what was, what was he thinking about that?
And so every once in a while you, you have the, you have the capacity to surprise me because like there was, there was some pictures you were putting up not too long ago of you and Paul Joseph Watson.
And I had no idea that you, like, knew this guy or you were in any way, like, in tight with this guy enough to go and get, like, you know, publicity shots with him.
That was one.
And who else was the other?
There was some other guy.
I think it might have been... Was it...
I want to say it was like Ann Coulter, but it wasn't Ann Coulter, it was somebody else.
I know exactly what you mean.
I've ended up in the right-wing kind of politics side of things, but to be perfectly honest with you, although my politics are my politics, I'm kind of trying to step away from it in some regard.
And the reason for that is because I don't see Any fruitful end to just getting banned repeatedly.
I mean, obviously, I know what I know, and I know what I believe, and I know this sounds like a pussy's way out, but if you speak the truth, you don't exist online for very long.
Eight accounts in, it gets to a point where it's like, you know, Do I really need to sit and repeat this shit?
I know Paul Joseph Watson very well.
Alex Jones texted me this morning.
He's trying to get me on InfoWars.
It's kind of weird where I'm an internet pimp and I'm a degenerate, but I'm also aligned with the right.
I love you.
Where do I fit in?
I know all these guys and they really want me, I guess because I'm a smooth talker, they like the idea of me being a lot more politically motivated.
In many ways, I've given up on politics.
I've moved.
I've left the West.
I don't live here anymore.
I don't think me running my mouth on Twitter is going to fix anything.
It just feels, it feels to me kind of fruitless now.
It's gotten to a point where I, I scroll up and down the timeline and I see people saying, Oh, you know, I'm going to fix the way, like, I'm going to fix this.
And it's just like, Are you?
With Twitter?
Really?
You know, it's just like, you're just gonna get banned.
Twitter activism.
You're just gonna get banned.
And like, look at AJ.
AJ is a friend of mine.
I know, like, there's been a split in the Manosphere, etc.
I'm a person.
If I'm your friend, I'm your friend.
You know, I don't, I don't take, like, these sides and whatever.
But, um, he's a friend of mine and he got banned.
And where did he get banned for?
For fucking insulting pedophiles?
Tweet.
Yeah.
It's the world we live in.
And that's why I put that in there.
I talked about that on Wednesday on my Wednesday show, and that was actually one of the first things I said is, and you probably know this better than most because you've been banned so many times, but there's a storm coming, man.
I mean, especially with the 2020 election cycle, and you look at just how the mainstream media is cracking down on Messaging and narratives that they don't like.
And that's why, that's why I put out that tweet.
I said, you know what, uh, you know, me and me and AJ have our differences, but that was in no way anything that should have got him banned.
No, no.
And certainly not a perma ban too.
You know what I mean?
Oh, okay.
Suspend him for like, you know, a couple of days, but like a perma ban for that.
And then it was, if anybody was wondering what it was about, go check out my show on Wednesday.
I put up the tweet up.
I don't have it convenient right now, but it's on that show.
And essentially he said, yeah, he came out against, uh, what was it?
Was it Salon?
I forget which, uh, which outlet it was.
It might've been somebody was saying to the effect that there had been research on pedophiles and that they can't help themselves.
Right?
Like it's a, it's a genetic thing or the, you know, the only, there's nothing that can, that can make them, uh, feel differently or whatever.
And then AJ says something about like castration camp.
That's all he said.
And that was enough to get him banned.
And that's my exact point with it all.
So it's kind of like, you know, is it, I mean, people come to me all the time inside of my war room.
I've got my private members community and people join and they say, I'm in the West and I'm worried about getting divorced, raped, and I'm worried about the female imperative.
And I'm worried about the left.
I'm worried about this.
What should I do?
And I say, look, become anti-fragile, put money in a foreign bank account and get the ability to get the fuck out.
Oh yeah, but what else can I do?
I'm like, nothing!
What do you mean, what else can you do?
You're living in a country where if you get a woman pregnant by accident, your fucking life's over.
You're living in a country where you can marry a woman and she can divorce you and completely destroy your life and turn your son into a fucking girl without your permission.
And you want me to help you?
What the fuck do you want me to do?
You gotta have the ability to get the fuck out.
And that's the only thing there is.
If I had an American wife, I'm a spiteful motherfucker.
I'm going to say it now.
I'm spiteful.
So if I had an American wife and we were getting a divorce, I would set the house on fire before I'd give her a fucking thing.
That's just who I am as a man.
But, you know, you've got to have the ability to pick your son up for his visit and get on a plane and get the fuck out of there because you're living in a world where you don't stand a chance.
The system is so rigged against you to think you can even use the system to protect yourself in any regard is infantile.
And when that's why people come to me and they go, what do we, what do I do?
I'm living in the West.
I'm concerned about X, Y, Z. I'm like, well, do you need a backup plan?
And your backup plan is to get the fuck out because it ain't getting better anytime soon.
And there's very little you can do.
It's the weight of the system.
And it's, we, I mean, we've discussed all these themes before and we'll go into them again.
I'm sure everything from marriage to having kids to divorce, everything, the whole system is rigged against you and they will destroy your life.
They will destroy your life from head to toe.
And they don't give a shit how you feel.
Yeah, that's it.
That's it.
I was going to say, that's a great, you know, tomorrow I'm doing a rule zero with the guys and that was actually going to be one of our topics, which is what's the alternative?
What else is there?
Right?
Like how, like going forward, I've, I've been, I have been, um, very vocal about this new poly initiative, like this new messaging that like guys should just basically, uh, cuck themselves and be, um, be happy with that or accept that or, or find some kind of normalcy in, In allowing their woman to go off and have sex with other guys, right?
Or to open their marriage or whatever.
There's euphemisms for it, right?
It's the customizable relationship or alternative relationships.
And it's like, no, what gets me is that it's...
It's something that goes against our, our evolutionary imperatives, right?
I mean, for a guy, men want to know that they want paternity.
We want a harem.
We want to know it's like, we want that variety, but we want to know what's ours is ours.
Because when we're like that, because when we're wired like that, because we want to know that the child is ours, this is, you want to call it the, our primate brain, our lizard brain, whatever.
That's why guys get jealous.
That's.
And so, so we're listening to all of this shit right now about, um, About how we should just accept that, and how we should just go with that, and how we should live with that.
And now, I think we're starting to see, and like you're saying, there's this resistance, there's this pushback against that narrative.
And unfortunately, you know, a guy like Ajak has one bad tweet, or one, I don't even think he thought about it, to be honest with you.
I think he just thought, oh, you know, he was just being witty or pithy, right?
And what had happened, and let me, I should also put this into some context here, is because of what happened on Project Veritas, The guy, I forget the guy's name off the top of my head, but the guy had put out some video, some secret video that he had leaked to him from ABC about, or was this, I think she was a host or she was a news anchor.
She was talking about how ABC tried to bury that story and they wanted it to go away.
And it was at that point when that came out, there was a sweep.
It was Twitter.
It was Google.
It was YouTube.
It was all of these major platforms decided that they were going to ban you if you had said anything, like if you were saying something about pedo, if you were saying something about Epstein, if you're saying something about whatever.
That was, that was enough to get you banned.
And that's what I'm, that's why I keep talking about this storm that's coming because that's just a taste of it.
I think once we get into the election cycle proper and you see these big, um, these big platforms exercising their real control over, over, you know, your influence, they are the ultimate influencers right now.
But it's like exactly what you're saying is that these are the guys that are promoting that are pushing that agenda out there.
What can you do?
They control the information people see.
If you type something into Google, Donald Trump, they control if it's good or bad.
They control the world from head to toe.
And this is my point, to try and resist against that.
I mean, it's different if you're like an older guy, you're established, you have a job, et cetera, et cetera, in America.
But when young guys come to me, like 22, 21, I'm like, you need to get the fuck out.
Like, go where?
Like, oh, just go anywhere.
And I know that seems like a bullshit answer, but I can't think of another solution to it.
Just to tap into this poly thing.
I was discussing this with someone the other day.
It was a girl, actually.
Of course, it was a Western female because Eastern European females don't talk.
You know, it's funny.
I didn't think we were going to talk about this, but I'm kind of glad we are now, so go ahead.
Yeah, so I was explaining to her that paternity has always been the most important thing for the man.
You know, paternity is what it's all about.
The reason that women can't be whores and men can be as promiscuous as we want is for paternity.
Women get pregnant, we don't.
Before paternity tests, the only insurance that you were the father was to have a virgin.
This is why Throughout human history, virgins were so valued.
That's why, to this day, in many cultures, virgins are still the only acceptable thing to marry because it ensures paternity.
You don't want to tie yourself and cuck yourself to raising some kid that ain't yours.
Absolutely normal behavior.
So, it's completely normal for a man.
And I don't like the word jealous.
People talk about men being jealous.
Jealous is the idea of wanting something someone else has.
I'm not a jealous person.
I'm an extremely caring Actually, that would be envy.
Jealousy is the suspicion that something is not right with you.
Envy is like saying, I want what that guy has.
Jealousy is like mate guarding.
The word I use is territorial.
Okay, we can go there too.
That's my card.
It's my woman.
It's my house.
You ain't touching none of them.
And that's a perfectly normal masculine stance.
What's funny about all this is the whole poly thing.
In my experience, if a woman loves you, she doesn't want to fuck anyone else.
If I were to try and say to my girl, you have to fuck a bunch of guys.
She'd be like, what the fuck?
No, no, no.
I don't want to.
You're free to fuck guys.
I don't want to.
I don't want to.
She wouldn't want to!
That's the crazy thing about this whole Polly thing, is that the idea that women want to sleep with lots of men.
No, they don't.
If they truly respect you and they love you, I guarantee they don't want to fuck anyone else.
They really don't want to fuck anyone else.
Polly doesn't want to fuck everything that moves.
Polly isn't out.
It's for guys who say, you know what?
I know I'm not the best you can do, but I need sexual access.
cute little word, right? The normalization of it is now that I've written two, actually three articles about this right now.
Polly is now a mating strategy for beta males. It's for guys who say, you know what, I know I'm not the best you can do, but I need sexual access. So tell you what, ladies, I'll be your I'll be the good guy for you.
You give me sexual access and you can go have sex with whoever you want and you have your options open to optimize.
That's really what the underlying message of it is.
You can go out and you can optimize your hypergamy with whoever you want.
I'll be here babysitting and keeping the home fires going.
And that's just all I have that sexual access.
And I tell you what's interesting is there's a there's a parallel to this in primates, right?
That's exactly what beta male primates do, like gorillas and bonobos.
They there's women go for the women.
The female primates are part of a harem.
They're part of the alpha male harem.
And when it when they go into estrus, when it's time for them to when they're in their proliferative phase, that's when they start pushing all these beta male guys off to the side and everything.
And then they want to go and they seek out sex with the alpha male.
And then when they're out of that or when they're in pregnancy or whatever, they give sexual access to beta males, but only if they have something, if they have resources, if they pick little nits off of them, if they watch the kids, right?
If they will ensure the safety of their children, their offspring.
So they give them sexual access when they are not in estrus, but they push them away when they are.
And I think that people, okay, so that's a really loose way of describing what I see going on right now is we have a, at least in Western societies and in the country you're in right now, we have this, we have such a low estimation of masculinity.
We have devalued conventional masculinity.
We've devalued like even the idea, just me saying alpha or beta male, people just go, I can't believe he's saying that unironically.
Like, no, just me mentioning that.
We want to remove the letters M-A-N from the English language.
So this builds and builds and builds.
And so this, when I see Polly, and when I see the customizable relationships, it's not about You know, our promiscuous nature, you know, human beings are promiscuous, men are promiscuous, and women are promiscuous, too.
But we do, we have different mating strategies, and we have different goals in mind for those mating strategies.
But to say that, you know, that this is a healthy way to raise kids, this is how we're going to go, no, it's a mating strategy.
It's a mating strategy for women, too, because they go, OK, Well, I got to settle for some guy, but wouldn't it be great if I could still have the options to go get with the hot alpha that I once got with before?
I wish I could still do that and still have this guy here because women right now don't look for a guy who is the best of both of those.
They're not looking for the guy who's the provider and the guy who's the alpha male.
There's two different guys.
There's a guy for each one of those roles.
If they find that guy, hey, great, but I don't even think today they're even really looking for that.
So what's the, what's the, um, What's the solution? What's what's a workable arrangement for people to you know to come together in a relationship?
Whatever have kids you know have a family and stuff that this poly thing looks like a solution The problem is is exactly what you just said a minute ago is that there's that jealousy thing and that's part of men's nature It's part of that paternity absolutely. It should be yeah I mean absolutely it should be and and this girl was trying to say to me I'm a hypocrite because I have lots of girlfriends and that should be the same the other way around because this is part of the gender imperative that men and females are the same.
And I said, no, that's absolutely not true.
Every king, every sultan, every knight of history had maidens and mistresses and a wife.
This has been the normal, the normal, the absolutely normal path of human nature is alpha males have all the women, and like we just discussed with the primates, a man at the top has unlimited sexual choice, and the other men struggle for sexual choice.
This is the natural reality of the human condition, and that's the way it's always going to fucking be.
And the idea that women can do it too is completely inane because females get pregnant and the new age pill and all this shit that's come along new age that somehow can prevent a female from getting pregnant when she has sex doesn't change the biological realities of human nature.
Right.
And women know this.
Women know this.
I've had women say to me, well, I know because of the kind of guy you are, I know you'll never be loyal.
They've literally said to me, I know you're too big of a fucking G to sit around here and watch TV with me all night.
They've said it and they still stay with me and they'll say, I know what you're doing, but I just don't want to hear about it because you're not that stupid.
They know the fucking game.
And even their hindbrain understands that as well.
Yeah.
I was just going to say, I've got, I'm about like halfway through.
Let's see.
You can see I'm about halfway through Hector Garcia's Alpha God.
And this is exactly what you're talking about right here.
It's as far like I'm everybody knows I'm writing my fourth book right now, which is basically The Red Pill and Religion.
And as a result of that, I'm like sort of digging into cultural narratives, religious narratives.
And this shit goes back all the way to, you know, ancient Greece and like beyond that.
And exactly what you were just saying a minute ago is powerful men always cordon off a harem.
They always have a harem.
And so whether that's the patriarchs of the Old Testament or it's like Gilgamesh or it's what, you know, all these people, all these, you know, great, what we would consider like alpha males of history have all done the same things.
Even in our hunter-gatherer tribes, even hunter-gatherer tribes that still exist today, the chief always cordons off all the women for himself.
And that's why when you look at, let's say, dynastic China right now, there was the Forbidden City, and it was guarded by eunuchs.
Well, we've got to cut off those guards' dicks because we don't want them breeding with the harem in there.
So that is the ultimate goal for guys, is unlimited access to unlimited sexuality, but also to know that the reproductive efforts that he's putting into that are his.
That he's not taking care of somebody else, like he's not taking somebody's genetics and pushing them on into the next generation.
And that's why you're jealous.
I want to stop you there really quickly, because I've said this before and everyone thinks I'm the worst man in the world.
I have absolutely zero interest in a child that's not mine.
That's the truth.
Someone goes, oh, what if you couldn't have kids?
Would you adopt?
Truthfully, no.
I have zero interest.
What's the fucking point?
Like, I know that sounds crazy.
There's orphans and whatever, whatever.
I have less than zero interest in a child that's not mine.
I can't explain how much I won't care.
And if that makes me a bad person, so be it.
This is just the reality of who I am.
I just won't give a fuck.
It ain't mine.
Have you put that out there on the internet and what was the response when you did that?
People lost their minds.
They were like, oh, what kind of man are you?
What kind of person?
You're not grown up.
You're not real man.
You're not this.
You're not that.
And I'm like, well, you know, you can call me whatever you want, but I understand that I'm proud of who I am and I'm proud that I'm Andrew Tate and I want my genetics to be passed on.
I want to give them all my energy and time.
I don't want to pass my energy and time to other genetics.
Why would I?
I mean, in fact, I know we shouldn't look at humans purely from an evolutionary animal standpoint, but there are two sides to humanity.
There's the evolutionary standpoint of how we've evolved as animals, and there's the societal standpoint.
But if you look at us, look at what a lion does.
A lion will turn up, get a chick, and kill the cubs that ain't his.
He doesn't give a fuck.
Ain't his!
You know, like, so I'm not saying you should go that far, but I'm certainly not sitting there fucking changing diapers or something like that.
I'll tell you another thing, that's another part of this book is infanticide is across the animal kingdom, right?
If a new alpha comes into a troop or into a pride of lions like you're talking about, yeah.
The new alpha male will go and kill the offspring of his rival alpha males, right?
Human beings have actually something pretty close to that.
Although we're not killing them, we express this and manifest this in other ways.
But I'll tell you what will really bake your brain here is that the act of doing so, killing the offspring, the prior offspring, sends the females into estrus.
They want to have sex right after that with the guy who, with the, with the murderer, the murderer.
And I, you know, it's, I, people keep hitting me up about, um, what is it?
Hybristophilia?
Like, why do women want to go and get with guys who are like convicted killers in prison right now?
And we want to make it into a, you societally, we want to turn it into like a, like a psychological disorder.
So we give it a name like hybristophilia, but only women do it.
Only women are the ones that are creating fan clubs for convicted killers in prison right now.
So if you want to call it some sort of social disorder or some psychological disorder, okay, tell me how you're going to do that.
But the fact still remains that it's only women that are doing that.
And why is that?
Why do they have such a fascination with violence?
Why do they have such a fascination with a guy who has the capacity to take another person's life?
Yep.
Well, maybe it has something to do with the fact that they get off on the guy that goes and kills off all their babies.
And that was the bottom line of masculinity since the dawn of time.
Like before you had sports cars and bank accounts and fucking social media and Instagram likes and all this bullshit.
What was the bottom line of masculinity?
Well, he whooped ass.
What was the bottom line of masculinity?
Like that's evolutionarily hard.
Demonstration of buyer value.
Yeah.
DHV was the ability to beat someone's ass.
That's it.
I can whoop his ass.
I killed those three.
Now you're mine.
Boom.
You know, and that's the bottom line of masculinity.
And all these imperatives that are being forced by the West are basically, I mean, we could go into this forever, but it's an attempt to feminize men because you have to feminize men for them to accept the society they now live under in the West.
If the men of Russia were forced to live under the society that the men live under here in the West, there'd be fucking riots.
You think a Russian man's gonna sit there and pay alimony to his ex-wife so she can fucking have enough gas money to drive over and suck a new dick?
You think he's gonna sit there and go, I better pay?
You think he's going to do that shit?
No fucking way!
Viv says to me all the time, or any of the chicks, they say to me all the time, I don't know what would happen if we split up, but I know for sure you wouldn't be giving me money to fuck.
And I was like, yeah, like, I don't know what planet these chicks are on.
I'll divorce him and I'll take this.
I'll take, I will set it all on fire and I will go to jail for the rest of my fucking human life before I give you a penny.
because I'm not a pussy. That's the reality. But most of these men are such pussies.
Oh, the court said, fuck the court and fuck you. I'm out of here.
You know, like it's just, we have to feminize the men.
Otherwise, I don't have to accept this bullshit. And then they're easily ruled. Yeah.
They're more easily ruled.
They're more easily ruled.
And then their sexual market value is so low, they end up picking up some single mother with eight kids and playing second daddy.
That's where I was going to go next.
That's where I was going to go next with that because you're just saying, you know, you don't want to invest in children that are not your own.
And I think right now in Western culture, A part also of this, you know, it's really a war on paternity.
It's really this social engineering program to teach men to give up that jealousy.
In fact, we characterize that jealousy as toxic masculinity.
Well, guess what?
Guys are going to feel that, and they're not going to know why they feel that, but it's a genetic evolved imperative for them to want to make art, for them to want to be on top of Why?
you know, their own their own efforts and their own their own genetic legacy being pushed forward. They can't describe it. They can't put it into words. They can't articulate it, but that's what they feel. And so when we get guys are saying like, oh, you know, Polly's not for everybody. You know, we have to condition ourselves to to, you know, repress that jealousy instinct. And it's like, well, that's there for a reason.
Yeah. Why? It's like it's like a hundred thousand years of evolution that puts that in there.
Why would a man protect a woman if he's not jealous?
Why would a man even protect her?
You know, I'll tell you.
We were evolved to be this way so we can protect, so we'll risk our life to keep her alive.
This is the basis of humanity.
They're trying to reprogram the basis of humanity.
And what's amazing to me is that they're fucking successful on some level.
There's resistance, but there's still a whole bunch of fucking dorks sitting there going, oh, okay.
It's insanity.
It's like the beta males who will go, if I do this, do I get laid?
Because beta males will do anything to get laid.
They'll do anything to get laid.
And that's the crazy thing about it.
And this is one of the things I teach.
And people come to me and go, what do I do to get laid?
And I'm like, very little.
Like, I don't do shit.
It's part of your personality, that's why.
For these guys, it's not part of their personality.
One of the things I've always said, and I know you're reading my book right now, but one thing I say in that book is that you need to internalize this.
It needs to be part of your personality.
And I think for you, because of the way you were raised, I would say it's probably because your father raised you to be the way you are, from what I know of you.
This is it.
Guys come to me and they go, well how should I act?
When I've got guys who I train, how should I act?
naturally that way because it does.
And anything that's outside of that seems like, what the fuck are you talking about?
How is this not obvious to you?
Yeah.
This is it.
Guys come to me and they go, well, how should I act?
Like, like when I've got guys who I train.
Act.
And I say, why are you acting?
Be.
You're like, you have to act a certain way when a woman disrespects you.
If a woman disrespects me, I haven't got to act shit because I'm pissed off for real.
I'll never talk to her again for real like there's no act like when you talk to me like I'm a dickhead fine I'll never reply to you again and then she'll then she'll lose her mind because she's never had a guy ignore her.
No, to me, it's not an act.
They're coming along.
What do I do here?
What do I do there?
You need to become the kind of person who doesn't take disrespect from females.
Why are you going to take disrespect from people?
Why are you going to have a woman live in your house?
And if someone breaks into the house, you have to go downstairs and face, face an attacker who could have a fucking machine gun.
You have to go down there as a man to protect her.
But when you asked her for a cup of coffee, she's going to give you attitude.
And you're gonna accept that shit.
You're gonna sit there and go, oh well, you know, she's had a long day.
I don't give a fuck how long your day is.
I ask for coffee, I pay for this house.
I'll risk my life to keep you alive.
If you don't want to make me a cup of coffee, that's perfectly fine.
Pack a fucking bag.
Get out.
And people go, you're crazy, you're out your mind.
I've had girls, I've had that exact situation happen to me, and girls go to me, you're fucking crazy, you're crazy.
I'm like, bitch, get the fuck out.
You're crazy.
You're the most crazy.
And they'll leave.
And then they'll be texting me for fucking months.
The crazy man.
Then they want the crazy man back.
Then they want the crazy back.
Yeah.
I'll make the coffee.
I'll make the coffee.
I'm sorry.
I just didn't like the way you said it.
Your tone.
Bitch, I talk to you in a tone I fucking want to my house.
And that's not an act.
It's not about being an act.
It's just who I am as a person.
I'm not a mean person.
I'm a nice guy.
But there's boundaries and limits.
And I have my view of the world.
And you comply to my view of the world and you get replaced.
I think that that throws off a lot of guys because a lot of guys, particularly in the, I would say in the last like three to four generations, because at least in Western culture, they have been feminized and have been brought up in a feminine primary social order that convinces them that they have to be in touch with their feminine side.
They have, like, it's, it's bad for you to, to be masculine.
It's like, it's what I call gender loathing.
It's for these guys.
So you've got these guys, and people wonder why there's this generation of Lost Boys that are coming to me, to you, to Jordan Peterson, to anybody else.
Why is there such a mass of these guys, and why isn't it obvious?
For you, because of the way you were raised, because of who you are, you've already internalized this stuff.
One of the things I run into when I'm talking with guys, Like if I'm interacting with them, like say in my comments on my blog or something, guys will say, how was this in question?
How are these guys don't even see this?
Don't these guys know?
And women will ask me too.
They'll say, don't these guys know that they're being pussies?
Don't they know that they're, and it's like, no, they really don't because they've never had that education and it's never become part of who they are.
And so like when people tell me, like they'll say, well, I really pity Rolo because you know, he's married and he has to game his wife all the time.
And it's like, No, I don't game my wife.
I am the game.
I understand that.
It's taken root.
It's part of my reflexive personality to pass a shit test.
I don't sit there and go back to my book and go, what did I write about that?
Exactly, it's who you are.
And that's the thing, it has to become who you are.
Because if it's not who you are, you can only fake for so long until someone calls your bluff and you get checked.
If you fake that you don't give a shit and then she walks out the door and you actually give a shit, game's up.
And it doesn't matter how good you are with women.
I've had women who I've told to fuck off and they've never texted me again and I've lost them.
You've got to be prepared to lose to win.
I use chess a lot because I'm a chess guy.
It's an analogy.
I've had loads of guys come to me and they tell me their sob story by email.
They're like, what should I do?
I'm like, leave her.
Like, oh, but I love her.
I was like, in the situation you're in, the only chance you have a victory is such a, it's like a queen sacrifice in chess.
Maybe it'll all go wrong.
Maybe it'll all go right.
But if you don't do the queen sacrifice, you're going to sit there and it's going to be ground down and slowly pressured down and lose the game.
You're going to lose the game and time's running out.
So you better do something drastic now.
She's talking to you like a dickhead, walk out the fucking door.
Maybe you can shock her into compliance.
But if you don't shock her into compliance, then it was always over.
If you leaving is not enough to make her talk to you nicely, how long is she going to sit there until she sucks a new dick?
Are those few weeks really that much more important?
Like, but people just ain't got the balls.
They're not prepared to take the risk.
I've lost loads of girls doing that shit.
But the ones who stick around are absolutely and utterly compliant.
And that's how you gotta be.
And this is another reason why I talk about how important it is to have numbers as a guy.
Lots of guys are like, well, what if I just want one girlfriend?
I was like, if you want one girlfriend, you better go fuck 20 chicks.
And then you're going to end up with one good girlfriend.
The world we live in now, like, I'm not saying you can't train any girl, but I'm saying some blueprints are better than others.
So you need to go out there and you've got to run the game a bit to find one that isn't a complete mess to begin with.
Like, you're going to pick something.
If you're going to fall in love with the first girl you bang, she might have a whole host of issues.
Why are you dealing with that shit for?
You know, like you want to build a race car.
You want to start with a Ferrari.
You don't want to start with a fucking pedal bike.
That's the point.
Also having the game and being able to have access to lots of females is ultra important.
Even if you have the goal of being the trad con, one man, one woman, even if that's your goal, you still need to have access to a whole bunch of chicks or you're not going to have a good selection.
This is the world we live in now.
So I've had guys email me and say, I don't want to be a player, Tate.
I want to be a good man.
I'm like, well, you better be a player first.
You better be a player first.
Otherwise you're going to struggle.
You're going to double down on the first chick you bang.
Yeah, I get that a lot too, is when people, one of the things that especially now I see this, and I saw this about like 2015 as well, but it's almost like the atmosphere goes in cycles right now.
And so right now, right before an election cycle, the idea of like, Being traditional or being, you know, I want to be a monogamous guy.
I want to be a stand-up dude.
I want to have, you know, I just want to have one wife and have a dog in the yard and three kids and a wife that really loves me and wants to have sex with me and that's it.
And anything else is degenerate.
Like, what gets me, and I was, I wanted, I've got a list of questions here, but what gets me about What is that you do like I know what you do for a living But I also know that you have like you're at the war room right now, right?
You're talking to guys who want to live better lives They want to do something more with their lives and just whatever it is that they're doing.
Um, I think it's fascinating to me that For guys who will come to me and they'll say well Rollo.
He just talks about hypergamy He just talks about like spinning plates or any of that kind of stuff.
You just described exactly what?
What I wrote in my first book about spinning plates is you need to be non-exclusive so that you can get experience with women.
So maybe like I was like you were just saying a minute ago, as you go through, you know, you get a notch count up to, you know, 20 or 30, at least then you can understand the nature of women and you understand how it works.
And then maybe you get one.
Yeah, and you have some options.
In my PhD course on Curb Your Tate.com, one of the elements, one of the lessons in the PhD course is how to tell if she's a good girl or not.
So I have a very specific test you can run on the female you're seeing, and I won't give it away because people need to buy it, but there's a very specific test you can run on a female to see if she's a quality female, a quality candidate to make into a girlfriend or not.
It's a very specific test.
And I've said this test has never failed me.
I'm not a man who lies, Rollo.
I swear on my father's grave, I don't lie.
I've fucked maybe like 500 girls.
Last time I counted, it was like 400 and something.
It's ridiculous.
It's a huge number.
It's a huge number.
And this test has never once failed me.
If they pass it, they're a good candidate.
If they fail, they're not.
This is the reality of this test.
And that's why if you're only going to have one girl and you're going to double down on it, and you haven't even tested her, you could have a bad apple to begin with.
And why put yourself through all that stress?
Why put yourself through all that problems when you can just find a better candidate to begin with?
And that's the ruthlessness of the game.
Females are absolutely ruthless in their mating strategies.
So why are you not going to be ruthless to make sure you get the best for you?
And if that means you have to sleep with a whole bunch of girls to find one who's compliant and submissive, then do so.
You have to look after yourself.
If you're thinking, oh, that's the bad thing to do, what do women do?
You think women aren't ruthless with their selection processes?
You can be the best man in the world, but if you ain't tall enough, she still thinks you're a bitch.
That's what women think.
Women can be that ruthless with the way they are.
So, you know, you have to fight fire with fire, and you have to be absolutely and utterly self-interested.
Self-interested.
The more selfish you are, the happier she's gonna be.
And this is what blows people's minds.
You have to be a one-way train on a track to Tate Town and they either get on board or they go find another train.
You can't be bending and complying because it doesn't work.
It doesn't work in any realm.
You have to just be absolutely, this is who I am.
If you don't like it, leave.
And I've said that plenty of times.
I've had plenty of girls leave and I've had plenty of girls stay.
I've had girls change from veganism to full-on meat eating because I refuse to have a vegan in my house.
I'm literally that level.
I'm like, I want steak.
Cook me a steak.
I won't cook a steak.
You're cooking it because it's my house.
You're doing as I say.
Yeah.
I'll leave there.
Go then.
I'll tell you what's interesting.
Like you can, you can bend reality that much.
If you just, you're adamant.
I was gonna say one more thing quickly.
The war room guys last night.
We are talking about all this kind of stuff.
They're talking about frame, etc, etc.
And we were doing inside the war room, we have different sections, but we're doing a PhD mindset.
And I was explaining how in the world we live in today, very few things men say are said adamantly.
We live in a world where men say things, but they don't say them adamantly.
They don't say them and they don't mean them.
So when you say things you mean, in the current world we live in, it almost makes you a hypnotist.
Because a beautiful woman's never had that.
A beautiful woman's never had a man say something to her and mean it.
So one of the guys go, can you give me an example?
And this is one of the examples I give.
One of my girlfriends hated one of my other girlfriends.
I had these two girls.
I was sleeping with them both.
One of the girls hated the chick.
I hate her.
She's a bitch.
She's a bimbo.
She's always writing this on Instagram, blah, blah, blah, blah.
And I sat there and I said, the only reason you talk about her all the time and watch all her stories and you're obsessed with her is because you want to fuck her.
She's like, what?
No, I don't.
I hate that bitch.
I was like, look, all you do is talk about her.
All you do is watch her stories.
You're obsessed with her.
You want to fuck her.
You don't even know it.
You think I don't know the game?
I know when you're, I know, I know you want to fuck her.
I've seen this a million times before.
You're obsessed with her.
And I said it so adamantly.
I mean, a couple of weeks, I repeated it every time she insulted the girl.
I was like, you want to fuck her.
You're desperate.
You know, I know, I know she's what you think about.
It's like a hypnotist.
I said it so adamantly when I was fucking them both a month later.
I almost burst out laughing.
I knew this shit was gonna happen.
It's like because you just adamantly state.
And women, if you can adamantly state things and stick to your guns, you can become a fucking magician.
Because they never had that before in their lives.
They never had a man come along and say, no, this, this, this.
And what can they do?
They can either leave or comply.
Some will leave, some will comply.
It's as simple as that.
And people say to me, Tate's lying.
How does he have all these girls?
They're not loyal to him.
They must be cheating.
They're really not.
I'm not a fucking liar.
None of my girls are fucking any other dude.
They're all with me.
They all know I cheat.
Because the ones who weren't compliant, the ones who wouldn't play the game, got kicked out long ago.
So it's just the way it is.
And if you don't believe me, that's completely up to you.
But the fact they're all making me millions of dollars might be proof enough.
Yeah.
What the fuck more do you want?
But that's my point.
Men don't say anything adamantly.
They don't even stick to our guns anymore.
And if you do that, you could become a magician in the modern world.
It's really not that complicated.
Yeah, definitely.
That's great that you say that, because I don't think a lot of women, particularly in Western culture, have that experience.
Where they're dealing with a guy, like in some way, they've got to be invested in that guy because you can be adamant.
And if that woman is not in any way, if she hasn't, if she's not beholden to you, if she's not into you or whatever, it doesn't matter.
You just sound like a, you know, a guy who's just sort of like petulant.
You're like, but if she is into you, if she has an, a, an emotional or physical investment into you, very few women have that experience of the guy that says, look, here's how it is.
This is, you know, this is how it's going to work out and then have a guy that actually means that and actually backs that up.
So like when I'm talking to guys in there, they'll, they'll hit me up and they'll say, well, you know, I, I'll be listening to like Rich Cooper's channel and it's like always the same.
He does this one show on Mondays called Before the Train Wreck and it's always the same phone call.
It's like, should I take her back?
Should I go back to her?
Should I?
She's the only thing I got going.
She's a single mother.
That kind of stuff.
It's coming from a position of scarcity.
And you know what?
The unconscious dynamic between you and that person is she does not need you as much as you need her.
Absolutely.
And you can't get away with being adamant unless she needs you.
More than you need her.
So when you put that down and they want and that's the direction they want to be directed They want command presence.
That's exactly what you're just talking about is command presence police officers use this all the time It's like they are the one like they you know being a police officer I think we're sort of training this out of society right now, but I think up until recently there is a It's a concept that's used in law enforcement called command presence.
And so if you are a police officer and they see you in the uniform, there's this precise, it's in the military as well.
They see you in that position.
There is an implied authority that goes with that position that people automatically acknowledge.
And that presence needs to be something that you live because the moment you let that down, the moment you stop that, the moment you stop telling a woman no, Just even something as simple like what you're saying right there is like, yeah, I get it.
You know, you can hypnotize them, whatever, as long as you're forceful about it.
But no, women simply today don't get told no by men who actually mean no.
No, you can't do that.
No, I don't want you to do that.
No, you know what?
You can go off on your girl's night out, and then when you come back, all your shit will be on the on the curb.
Yeah.
And so, yeah, I 100 percent.
Are you familiar with the idea of command presence?
I've heard of it before, and I guess, you know what's funny?
Someone said to me yesterday the same thing you said to me.
They're like, yeah, but Tate, you do all this without thinking.
And I'm like, yeah, this is just how I've always been.
It's almost like it's how I've always been.
It's funny you just said about the girls night out.
I remember a conversation I was having with a girl maybe five or six years ago.
She was my girlfriend at the time.
And we're watching some show and there's some bitch went on some hen do before she got married running around with her girls So I ever got married which probably won't happen But if I ever got married if my girl thinks she's gonna run off with a bunch of hoes To another country to be a hoe for a night like no way Stick what do you mean? No way?
I said, what do you mean?
What do I fucking mean?
I'll end the marriage right then and there.
You ain't doing that dumb shit.
You know, like it's almost like, and another thing is this leads me on to something else I put on Twitter on one of my band accounts that went viral and everyone lost their minds.
I said, if you're a woman has a celebrity crush, she doesn't respect you.
Yeah, I remember that one.
Everybody lost their mind.
Yep, yep.
The dudes were sticking up for their girl, like he's hot.
I was like, on what planet are you?
If your woman's truly obsessed with you and truly in love with you, there's no man on earth she wants to fuck.
It doesn't matter if he's famous or not.
My girl's inbox, her Instagram's on my phone.
She gets three or four blue checkmark inboxes from football players, NFL players, a day.
And she just ignores them.
She's completely uninterested.
They're richer than me.
They may be bigger than me.
They may be, well, no one's stronger than me, but you know what?
I mean, they're dudes.
They're real people, you know?
And she's just like, no, you're the one I love.
To me, the smell of another man makes me feel sick.
Yeah.
And that's true love.
That's a true frame for a female.
People say females aren't loyal.
And I say, well, they can be loyal if you're really, really the one she believes is the best for her.
They're the most loyal people on earth.
They're only the opposite when they don't believe that.
That's the reality of it, you know?
Yeah, it's funny you should say that because I was talking to you.
It was similar to what you were saying about how, you know, if you're in a solid, stable, healthy relationship where there's respect for you, that's not even going to be an issue.
So when guys come up to me and they say like, this is a common question I'll get from guys.
My girlfriend wants to go on a girls night out or she wants to go with her girlfriends off to Las Vegas.
For the weekend with her girlfriend, you know, a girl's getaway or some shit like that.
And I go, so the whole, the conflict, like the inner conflict that these guys have is that they don't know if they should say yes or they should say no.
Or would it be more alpha to say yes or would it be more alpha to say no?
And I said, that's not the question you need to be asking yourself.
Why is she asking this in the first place?
Why is this even an issue?
Why does she even think that this is a good idea to go off and do that?
And now here's what happens is when you say stuff like that and when you tweet stuff out, this is the most common response.
Women will say, well, imagine being you so insecure in your masculinity that that you wouldn't let your girl go off on a girl's night out or you wouldn't let her, you know, you wouldn't let her go and indulge in a fantasy of a celebrity that she'll never get with, you know.
But you're so insecure in your masculinity that And it's always this, you always notice that it's not anything else.
It's not, you're, you're insecure about this or this or this.
It's always, you're insecure in your masculinity because that's always the attack angle.
It's always to attack men's sexuality.
That's why a real man lets his woman fuck everyone, doesn't he?
That's what a real man does.
Yeah, and so you can, and I got into it, and getting back to the Pauly thing, I got into it with Jeff Miller, Dr. Jeff Miller.
I call him Dr. Giggity.
He's the guy that is, and I like Jeff, I really wish I had a better relationship with him, but it's like, I think I call him to the carpet and I ask him the tough questions that he doesn't really want to answer.
But he's very, he's a very vocal opponent, or vocal proponent, I should say.
of the poly lifestyle because he's in a poly relationship with his, I guess his wife, Dr. Diana Flashman.
And so they're very open about this and they're trying to popularize this and they're trying to make it something that's a little bit more normalized.
And I was thinking to myself, how do you get past that jealousy part?
First of all, why does your woman want to do that in the first place?
And then second of all, how do you get past this evolved jealousy side?
And he says, well, you have to find a way to eroticize it.
You have to find some way to get off on the fact that you're off of on the jealousy, To feel jealousy is some way to, uh, to, to repress that, that bad, bad gel.
Like jealousy is a bad thing.
You shouldn't feel it.
And so how do we get over that?
Well, we, we, we get turned on by it and, and you know, we see cuckold porn or whatever else that's going on.
But what I think is interesting is that the, the fact that we are finding ways to condition ourselves to fit into this This thought paradigm, this way of thinking, as opposed to going with what our gut instinct is, which is jealousy, which is at least a degree of possessiveness, of mate guarding, to say, you know, I'm interested, like you're saying, I'm interested in my own paternity.
I don't want to deal with another man's progeny.
I'm only interested in what I want to do here, and if that's what you expect from me, then you need to go find some other guy that's going to do that.
Women right now, what they'll say is, if I bring that up, if I say, I would not marry, I would not date, I would not get involved with a single mother.
Why?
Well, because I am essentially signing up for my own cuckoldry.
And if you view cuckoldry as taking the parental investment responsibilities of another man's child on yourself, whether it's deceptive or whether it's right up front and we normalize it and saying, oh, these guys, they're not the stepfathers, they're the father that stepped up.
We can normalize it in society and we can find ways to repress those natural instincts.
Like the natural instinct is my own paternity, right?
Just like you're saying.
And so it's, it's odd to you because you've internalized this, but there's guys who will go to great lengths to convince themselves that they are more masculine or that they're better men because they're cuckolding themselves because they'll, I'm, I'm more secure in my masculinity because I let another dude rail my wife.
Yeah, it's bullshit.
I mean, the single mothers thing is one thing about, I guess, the red pill space that kind of annoyed me.
I saw a bunch of people hailing, running in on single mothers, and my argument was, well, why are you fucking them?
Like, that's the truth.
Like, if you're such a fucking big bad G, which you're talking about, then why are you fucking single mothers at all?
People come to me and go, oh, what should I do about single mothers?
I was like, don't fuck them.
Fuck a 19-year-old beauty queen.
A lot of guys, a lot of dudes will say that like, well, you should just fuck them and you shouldn't get involved with them, right?
It's like, why get involved?
Why even have sex with them?
Why even do that?
And the reason for that is because that's easy.
It's low hanging fruit.
It's easier for them to do that.
It's the path of least resistance.
It's much more difficult to run game and to get with the 19 year old beauty queen, like you're saying.
Than it is to get with a woman who is predisposed to finding a new father, trying to find some way to settle down, right?
You might be having sex with that person, but again, and then what else do you run into?
You also run into the fact that that kid is always going to supersede you no matter what.
Even if you're just having sex with that single mother and you're like, oh, we're just having no strings attached sex, that kid still comes before you.
Yeah, and maybe that's maybe that's the way it should be.
But here's the thing is you are never going to you know, we're gonna have anything in the long term.
So if you want to make her a plate and then she's gone.
Okay, I get that.
But why are you doing that in the first place?
That's another thing is like guys don't they never ask themselves?
Why does why does this a good idea?
Why is my girlfriend asking me to go on a girl's night out?
Why is she asking me for my girls want to do my girls are completely uninterested in any of the shit that my money can buy all my girls want to do.
Is, is try and get me to stay at home and watch bullshit TV next to them.
And all they say, can't we just stay home today?
Can't they don't want to go Vegas with the girls.
They don't want to go out.
They don't want to fucking go anywhere expensive.
People go, your girls are with you for money.
I'm like, my girls are the cheapest thing I can possibly do.
I turn off, I got home cooked meal and they just want to sit next to me while I ignore them and sit on my phone and tweet and bang them at the end of it all.
That's all a woman, when she's truly in love with a man, wants to do.
Stay at home with that man.
If she starts saying, oh, I want to do this.
I'm bored.
Let's go here.
Let's do that.
We need more excitement.
All of those are red flags.
Because if she truly loves you, you being in the room is exciting.
Yeah.
And that is enough.
And they don't want to go Vegas.
When guys come to me with a similar situation, my girl wants to go Vegas.
Vegas, what should I do?
I say, well, you tell her girls with boyfriends don't go to Vegas.
So you either go to Vegas single or you stay here.
And if she decides to go anyway, to call your bluff, you have to be man enough to make sure you fucking stick to your guns and not be a little pussy.
Because if you allow her to go and you stay with her, you've just told her she can do whatever the fuck she wants and she's going to have you anyway, which includes sucking dick.
And then she's going to end up cheating on you.
And then you're going to email me again.
Well, you're setting the paradigm.
You're setting the paradigm here.
Like, it's very simple.
And people go to me, yeah, but what if she leaves me?
And I say, look, I've said that to girls and girls have left.
You lose some girls.
There's no man who keeps them all.
But you know, if you have access to 100 and you lose 30, who gives a shit?
There's 70 more.
That's why the abundance mindset is so important.
Because you're not going to end up with quality women who would literally die for you.
Unless you have the abundance mindset.
You have to tear through them.
Some girls are just hoes.
Some hoes are just hoes and they're gonna be hoes.
And there ain't much you can do about it.
I mean, why would you fight that fight?
She's already had 30 dudes.
You're gonna come along and really try and fix her?
Why?
Why?
And that's why the test I teach in the PhD is so important.
Test her.
Because if she's fucked up, just save your time.
And a lot of these dudes know this.
Loads of guys get with a girl and they know deep down she's a hoe.
In fact, people will come up and say, that girl's a hoe, bro.
No, no.
They'll defend.
They know it.
They just don't want to know it.
Because they don't feel like they have any other choice at that level.
Maybe she's hotter than the girls they fucked before.
Maybe they don't get laid that often.
And they end up settling for some shit that they know is a fucking bit broken.
That's the reality.
And people go, oh yeah, but Tate, it's easy for you.
You're rich and you're a kickboxer.
I made myself rich.
I made myself a kickboxer.
I did it myself.
I wasn't born with this shit.
So like, yeah, I increased my own value.
So you need to increase your own value.
It's like, this is the name of the game as a man.
The name of the game as a man is just making yourself so valuable that you get to a point where it becomes easy.
The game becomes easy.
Man, a top 5% male has access to unlimited females.
Unlimited females!
And the thing about the world is this.
I'm near sure of it.
The idea of a single girl.
Is is isn't true people guys, especially beta guys.
I just want to meet a nice single girl There is no girl out there who's attractive who ain't talking to some dude who's banging her ex Or flirting with a new guy or already on dates girls are never single because females love attention and they have unlimited options This is the difference between men and women.
This is why men hate the breakup more than the woman, because they know the woman can have a new boyfriend tomorrow.
Your dumb ass needs to take six months to find something.
So that's why it bothers you.
But women are never single.
So how come every girl I message replies?
I mean, I can steal, I'm stealing girls off dudes left, right and center.
This is the harsh reality of the world.
You know, once you get to a high value, you just fucking end up taking chicks.
Because there's no such thing as a single girl.
And this is one of the things about the game people don't realize.
The reason it's so hard as a man, one thing, it's getting much harder.
This is something we can talk about how it's getting much harder as a man to get laid.
The things it took to get laid in the 50s are not enough anymore.
A job at the factory and a pickup truck ain't gonna do it.
That's old social contract right there.
Yeah, it's all changed.
And secondly, the reason it's so hard to get laid as a man is that you're not trying to make her like you.
You're trying to make her like you more than she likes the guy she's already fucking.
That's the part of it.
You have to make her like you more than the guy she already likes.
She has unlimited access and unlimited choice.
So why does she choose you?
And that's the whole name of the game.
The whole name of the game is just positioning yourself in a way so that the woman goes, you know what?
This motherfucker, he's crazy.
But maybe there's something that he's unique at least.
Or there's something about him.
Or he doesn't tolerate my shit.
There has to be something about them that you've got to get in their mind.
What I get is like I get guys who will say the beta mindset is this is it's they want to pretty much every guy wants to do this but the beta mindset is I you need to stand out amongst the crowd right what makes you need what makes you
More attractive than another guy like you were just saying that she's she's got access to the woman that you want has access to lots of other guys what makes you so special the beta mindset is I'm not going to be like other guys and his concept is like all these other guys are just these assholes who don't care about them and don't like hold their hands and don't watch.
I don't have any feelings.
know, uh, aren't I shouldered a cry on and they go that kind of soft feminine, like the more alike I am with a woman, then the more she's going to like me.
And so that's, and I'm a grounded, I think a lot of this is conditioned into these guys through like, you know, year, like a lifetime really of believing that woman, what women want you to be a friend, they want you to be comfortable.
They want you to be nice. They want you to be sensitive.
Like, yeah, I don't, I don't believe in that. I don't believe in that.
Girls I'm sleeping with girls. I'm trying to sleep with and girls.
I don't talk to boy women have boyfriends and girlfriends.
And if you're not fucking her, you are her girlfriend. And people will say, well, that sounds pretty harsh role. And I'm like, well, think about it this way is like women, when they relate to their own friends, to their girlfriends, how do they relate?
Well, how, you know, they, they, They're catty with each other, they relate as women relate with other women, right?
If you come in like that and you pretend to be a woman, like if you identify with a feminine and you think that that's going to get you in women's good graces, all she's going to do is respond to you as if you are another woman.
Her hindbrain sees how you're relating to her.
And then it responds to you as if you are one of her girlfriends.
And you're giving away your only weapon.
Yes.
Your only weapon is attention.
This is the thing with people don't understand about the whole dating game because it's getting much, much harder to live in.
And the reason is, is because attention has been weaponized now.
Females used to have to give sex to get attention from men.
I give him sex, he gives me attention.
Now all they need is an Instagram account.
They get unlimited attention from his fucking pictures.
They don't need your attention.
All over the world.
Unlimited attention from all over the world.
Millions of people.
Because the men are so thirsty, all the beta males have made it harder for the alphas because they just give all their attention away.
If you're friends with a girl, you're saying you can have all my attention without giving me sex.
So you've given her all the money and she ain't giving you the product.
So why is she going to give you the product at the end of that?
And then your attention becomes worthless because it's too easy to get.
It doesn't matter how much you give.
It doesn't matter how many times you buy flowers, take her out, take her to the movies, text her all the time, call her, are you okay?
It ain't worth anything.
It's hyperinflation.
This is the world we live in, and this is why the bad guy's attention's worth something, because if he texts her once a week, because his attention's hard to get hold of, and you have to weaponize your attention.
She fucks up, you don't give her any attention.
She doesn't fuck up, you give her a lot.
And this is one of the big things.
I have guys saying, I'm arguing with my wife.
I'm like, why are you arguing with her?
Oh, because of X, Y, Z. Just don't talk to her.
If she can get an argument out of you, every time she fucks up, she gets unlimited attention on tap.
So why the fuck is she going to behave?
I don't argue with my girls.
I don't argue with them.
I don't have arguments with them.
They're either complying and doing as I say, or I disappear for a week.
Oh yeah, but what if she cheats?
What if she cheats?
My girl ain't fucking cheating.
And if she does, she's out the door.
That's the reality.
I'm not playing the argument game.
I'm not screaming with some woman back and forth, you better do this.
No, it's just like comply or goodbye.
It's really simple.
And the whole attention with most guys, I think one of the biggest mistakes, and this is something else I cover in the War Room and the PhD course.
Well, the biggest mistakes people make is they have their attention thing the wrong way around.
So because men are busy, we're busy working, we're busy getting stuff done.
We'll text our girl.
Hey, love you.
Busy day at work.
I'll speak to you later.
We'll work all day and we're busy.
And then she ain't text us.
We ain't text her.
And then, you know, afterwards we'll go for a drink with our boys.
We'll come home late at night.
She got one text and no attention all day.
Whereas if you text her, hey, I've got a busy day, then she replies, yeah, you're always fucking busy.
You know, I'm tired of this relationship.
And then you spend all day at work texting her.
What do you mean you're tired, bitch?
I do that.
Then she gets attention.
So she gets attention for misbehaving and she doesn't get attention for behaving.
And one of the hardest things even for me to do is to remember when my girls are acting good, to text them all the time.
Because when they're acting good, most men can't be bothered to talk to them.
They're like, oh, she's fine.
I'm busy.
But what you have to do is when you're acting good, you have to give them all this attention.
As soon as they start acting a fool, ghost.
Vanish.
And this is going to send the world crazy, but it's very much like the way you train a dog.
They do the right shit, they get the treatment.
You do the wrong shit, they don't.
And it's really that simple.
People don't believe my life.
They don't believe that I have girls who are loyal to me.
They don't believe my girls give me all their money.
I've had guys sit... If anyone's watching this, they don't know what I do.
I run a webcam studio.
So girls work on webcam, talk to betas, take the money, give it to me.
It's the ultimate hierarchy.
But people sit and they go, well, why would she give you all the money?
It's like, well, because she gets all my attention.
They don't want money.
Girls, why would she want money when she can have attention?
I'll have girls running the room screaming, I did really good today.
I made $2,000.
She gets none of that.
So why is she happy?
She's happy because she knows she's going to get some dick.
And I'm happy.
My attention is so valuable, they'll pay for it.
And that's just because of where I position myself and where I position my attention, the fact that I've never given it away for free ever.
And it's a fine line because guys at the beginning are sitting there going, Well, I had to give her attention to get her to sleep with me in the first place.
It's a fine line.
You know, I've got, I've got to talk to her.
You got to work it out.
It takes experience.
And obviously I teach it in the PhD course.
You got to keep it weaponized.
The second you're giving attention away, you're not getting anything in return.
You're never going to get anything in return.
And that's all the friend zone is.
All the friend zone is, is just, it's just being taken for a ride.
And if you're going to stay there, you're a fool.
You deserve it.
You deserve it.
Yeah.
Again, it's like these, it's, it's power dynamics is what it is, but like they, You know, when guys will listen to this right now, one of the things that I hear, particularly in certain sides of the manosphere right now, is that it's not worth it.
It's not worth it to go through all this trouble.
It's not worth it to be a G. It's not worth it.
I'll never be able to do that.
Particularly the MGTOW mindset is they want to just give up on it.
They say, you know what, the juice is not worth the squeeze.
And just exactly what you just said there, and I'm playing devil's advocate here because you probably know how I feel about this, but I think the misconception that they have is that hypergamy is a straight jacket.
Like, if she's always got all these guys on speed dial, it's too exhausting to stay on top of this.
It's too exhausting to make myself the kind of guy that she's going to be a ride-or-die girl for.
And as soon as a guy like Tate walks in the door, Then she's going to go out with that guy and fuck him.
And then all the effort and all the energy that I put into all this is all gone.
And so it's certainly not worth it.
And you were just saying a moment ago, when you get into these relationships, when you get into a marriage right now, particularly in Western society, there's a lot of investment on a guy's part.
Risk is one of the things.
Effort, getting taken to the cleaners and a divorce, those kinds of stuff.
I think they get into these, maybe not MGTOWs, but I think that a lot of married, like, kind of blue pill guys get into these situations where they have to make up their own narrative for themselves to believe in, right?
So it's like, well, I have to do that because I'm a better man because I do that.
I'm a better man than Tate because I'm the guy that, you know, takes care of my family and I listen to her and I talk with her and I'm, you know, they put in all this effort But they don't understand that that effort just flies out the window because a guy like Tate walks in the door.
And so my question is this.
I'm sure you're probably familiar with what's going on with MGTOWS right now, but what do you have to say?
I know what you're going to say here, but what do you have to say with respect to guys who think that they should just exit the game and be done with this whole thing?
They want to go their own way for whatever that means to those guys.
Well, it's a defeatist attitude, which is the first thing.
It's the most feminine beta thing you can have in anything.
It doesn't have to be about women.
Having a defeatist attitude towards life is already probably why you ended up where you've ended up.
Because if you were too much of a man to quit, you probably wouldn't be there to begin with.
And that's not just about women.
It's about anything.
It's about fighting.
It's about money.
It's about anything.
A defeatist attitude is never the right way.
Secondly, you can always win the game.
You can win the game because, yeah, hypergamy may be true and girls value certain things.
But like I just said, I have guys who are bigger, stronger, richer than me messaging my girl.
She doesn't leave because I am her man.
And that's down to conditioning.
And you can condition females to be that way.
And yeah, you need to have multiple females.
And yeah, you need to find a good one.
And yeah, you need to have options.
But you can definitely win this game.
Any man can win this game.
But you have to be prepared to go through, especially for some of the softer guys, a degree of heartbreak.
So me and Tristan always laugh.
We say, we go through a breakup a week.
And that's literally true.
Guys talk about their breakup.
I go through a breakup a week.
I lose a girl a week.
Is that a point now where it's just like, Whatever.
I don't care anymore, at all.
But for most dudes, because they haven't got the kind of sexual access I have, you're gonna have to be prepared to lose the girl because she wants to go Vegas.
You're gonna have to be prepared to sit there and miss her and not message her.
You have to be a man about it.
You just have to stop being a pussy.
If you stick to the rules of the game as a man, you can absolutely win.
Nearly any man can.
I'm not saying you're going to have a beauty queen, but you'll have something that's loyal to you.
She may be a fucking five in my book, but she's a nine to you.
So who gives a shit?
You know, you're happy, whatever.
The point is, but you have to be man enough about it.
Most of the guys, MGTO and Betas, all they're trying to do is just alleviate heartache.
They're such cowards.
They're afraid of feeling sorry.
They're afraid of missing her.
I had one guy who messaged me and he's like, Oh, I don't know what to do.
I really miss my girl.
So why'd you split up?
Oh, she was talking to these guys.
It's like, why do you miss her?
Oh, but you know, cause she was my only girl.
I was like, well, what you need to do is you don't need it.
He goes, and he wanted her back.
I said, you don't, you don't want her back.
Cause you know, she's a shit girlfriend.
Cause she messaged other guys.
You just don't want to miss her anymore.
It's not about wanting her back.
You're just too much of a pussy to deal with the feeling of missing her.
That's what the reality of it is.
Most of these guys are in love with girls and they don't even want the girl.
All they do is argue with the girl.
They can't stand her.
She's a dickhead.
And she's a cheater.
And she's a bimbo.
But they're just too much of a pussy to feel like they miss someone.
It's all a huge act of cowardice.
I'm afraid to feel bad.
If you're not afraid of heartbreak and you stick to your guns, you're going to have a fantastic life with females.
If you're not afraid to say, sorry, not good enough for me, goodbye, and stick to it as a fucking man, you're going to do just fine.
That is 85% of the game.
But men are just too afraid to do it because they feel like they're not going to have another girl for a while.
It allows them to get their dick wet.
And that's what it is.
And it's just cowardice, head to toe.
So all the mid-toe guys, You're quitting the game without even trying.
If you were to just, if you're really a man going his own way, and you're really focusing on yourself, and you're really, you know, putting yourself first and upgrading your value as a man, you can, if you're doing that, then you should be fine with females.
Just continue with your mission.
Don't be compromising.
Make sure you put your mission first.
Treat her with respect, but don't take any disrespect.
One of the biggest things I want to actually say now, because I don't want people to think, I know the way I come across is hyper aggressive.
People think you have to be mean to girls.
I'm never mean to girls.
I'm nice.
I'm nice to my girls.
People have this idea that I'm walking around the house, I'm beating them up and shit.
I'm the complete opposite.
I'm a super nice guy.
I'm like, let's watch a movie or get some popcorn.
Let's have a party.
I'm a super nice dude.
I just won't tolerate disrespect on any level.
You disrespect me, I stop talking to you.
It's not about being an evil person.
You can still be the nice guy, but when she steps to you, you have to remove all your attention.
It's really that simple.
There's nothing else to it.
You haven't got to be a big evil man.
And you can be a MGTO and be going your own way and have that same philosophy.
It really isn't that hard, but these guys are just too afraid to miss a girl.
That's the biggest mistake.
That's what all this comes down to.
These dudes are too afraid of the heartbreak and they can't take it.
I think a lot of what I'm seeing right now in the MGTOW community is it's mirroring a lot of Red Pill stuff.
Honestly, Red Pill came a long time before MGTOW, and a lot of the stuff that they are throwing out there right now is really just straight-up Red Pill stuff.
Everything we've been talking about up to this point has been just straight-up Red Pill stuff.
You can find it in my book, you can find it in other people's work, you can find it everywhere in the Manosphere.
But what I see right now is there's this I think there's the idea I think if you if you unplug yourself from all of this if you if you become red pillow where you can't help but go your own way you can't help but live your life in a different way because.
Now you see how the game is played.
If you listen to this video and you listen to me and Tate talking right now, and this is something that's raising your awareness of the nature of women or the nature of intersexual dynamics right now, you won't be able to stop this video and go out the door and live exactly the same way that you did before.
And I, you know, when I talk about mental point of origin, it's exactly what you're talking right there is, is you've got to have, you have to come first.
Your, your rules are first.
And guys will say, well, you know, she'll just leave me or, you know, if I, if I put my foot down or whatever, most guys are afraid to even experiment with that.
They won't do it because they think that they have too much to lose because of exactly what you said is they have that scarcity mentality.
They think that they'll never get a girl as good as this woman.
You know, she's my dream girl.
And if I do, if I mess it, I don't want to mess it up.
Right.
And it's like, yeah, but you're going to be living out the life of this character that you think that she wants rather than who she, well, who she really wants, but then also not even really being yourself.
You're living this character, this life of a guy who is what he thinks that she thinks is the perfect dude and perfect is boring man perfect is always boring why do women like soap operas because that indignation man It's indignation.
They want to feel that rise.
He loves me.
He loves me not.
He loves me.
He loves me not.
We argued.
He fucked me good.
He's disappeared.
Where is he?
He's cheating.
Where are you?
It's interesting.
At least it's interesting.
You'll never be boring.
Someone who I know very well said something that's completely true.
You can do anything you want to a woman except bore her.
It's completely true.
There's men out there who beat the fuck out of their wives and their wife won't leave them.
You can't call them boring.
You might beat me up.
You might not.
You know, it's like literally anything for excitement, anything for attention.
It's like a drug.
In the first book, there's a chapter in there called indignation and I get into that as well.
I actually make the case that there is like the chemical cocktail that women feel when they feel indignation is something that they actually need to sort of feel alive.
So that's why if you're not the person that's creating that indignation for them, they're going to go find it somewhere else.
If that's like on daytime talk shows or that's a soap opera or that's the romance novel or whatever, they're going to go for it.
Think of indignation as a drug.
You might as well be her drug dealer.
Right now, Tate, you are your girl's drug dealer.
That's where they go to get their indignation fix.
And why they're going to get it from somewhere.
It might as well be from you.
So so why wouldn't you do?
OK, I want to I want to move.
We're at the top of the hour here and I would people are going to throw rocks at me if I don't ask you about Michaela Peterson.
So I'm going to put this this infamous now infamous tweet up here really quickly.
And I just want to Give you a chance to sort of share what was going on in this picture right here.
People kept asking me the most popular question.
I said, get your questions in for Tate and let me know what the situation is here.
How do you even know her?
How did this even come about?
Because she's leaning into you and I know she's split up with her now ex-husband, I guess.
Yeah, there's not too much of a story to be honest with you.
her. She's like, she looks like she's into it. And you want to talk about like all the dynamics that you were just telling me right now for over the last hour, I can see a lot of that sort of being manifested in this picture right now. So, so what's the story here? Yeah. Uh, there's not too much of a story to be honest with you. I mean, she, she was, uh, in Europe, uh, we were talking I said, Romania is an awesome country.
Come check Romania out.
She said, how do I know you're not going to get kidnapped?
Blah, blah, blah.
Because everyone's scared of Romania.
I said, you will get kidnapped.
Don't worry.
I will kidnap you.
You're lucky.
That was it.
She came in, and this is us having dinner.
That's all there is.
There isn't too much of an elaborate story behind it.
So this is in Romania.
She just decided to take it upon herself to fly out to Romania just to see you.
Yep.
So you had some correspondence with her, I guess.
Yeah, we were talking for a while, and she's nice, obviously.
Everyone knows who her father is, etc.
Yeah, really nice girl.
I have absolutely nothing bad to say about her.
She came out and yeah, that's just us eating dinner.
That's all I saw.
I can really say but yeah, I mean, yeah, I know.
I know to some guys because it's Peterson's daughter.
They're like, wow, like, to me, it's like, she's just another she's a person.
She's Michaela Peterson.
She's a girl.
Girls like I've had Bollywood stars fly out to see me.
I've done I've done loads of things to me like, you know, I was interested in her because of who she is as a person, not necessarily because of who her father wasn't.
I think it's interesting that she took it upon herself to come out and see you like to I've said and this is in the first book as well as when I'm talking about genuine desire and this is what you got into just a little while ago is like when a woman has genuine desire for you.
She won't want to go out on girls nights out.
That won't ever enter into her thought process if you are the person who is her drug dealer, right?
You're the one who's supplying her with the indignation.
You are her best option.
And I've always said this as well about hypergamy, is that hypergamy is based on doubt.
And that doubt is, is this guy the best that I can do?
Can I do better?
And when that answer, when that question is like answered, like firmly validated, affirmed, answered, that's when women will do shit like this. I honestly, I think she probably, why, you know, why do you think she decided to just get on a plane and come out and see you? I mean, was it because you were because you are who you are? Or maybe she was looking for that rather than what she was getting before? Yeah. I don't know.
I, I, I.
I can't say why.
I can give you a whole bunch of arrogant answers about how fucking great I am.
But she obviously found me interesting.
She obviously found my attention valuable.
That's what this all comes down to.
I don't know if you can get another picture up now.
I don't know if you can load up.
It's going to take a while for my Instagram to find a picture of me with the Bollywood star.
I don't know if you can find that.
Uh, attention is the coin of the realm.
So I have a quick story about the ball.
I was in India.
I was in Mumbai and there's a picture of me on Instagram.
I'm with a Bollywood girl.
She's got 3 million followers.
Um, so we're chilling in India, whatever happens happens.
And after our night together, she messages me, you know what?
I don't, I think you're a playboy and I don't think you're the man for me.
And I sat there and I burst out laughing to the phone and Tristan goes, what's funny.
I said, I just slept with Karishma, and this must be her standard tactic with Indian guys, because they're so beta, that she sleeps with them.
The next day, she dumps them.
It's actually quite clever.
It puts her in a position of power from the get-go, doesn't it?
It's actually quite a smart move.
That's why I laughed, because I know the game.
I could see the game.
This is actually beautiful.
So I'm supposed to reply, oh, what do you mean?
And then when she originally forgives me and I convince her I'm a good guy, the whole relationship, the power dynamic's fucked.
So when she texts me that the next day, of course I just didn't reply.
And then when she texts me again later, I knew I was right.
Didn't reply.
And then when she texts me the next day, you know what, while you're here, maybe we should talk about it.
I'm just judging you on your Instagram.
I didn't reply.
And it's, I'm going to have to try and find the message and put them on Twitter.
But the next three days I was running around Mumbai with Tristan, putting on my Instagram story, just, you know, having fun without her.
And when she sent me that message and I completely ignored her and didn't play her game, she had a full on mental breakdown. It went from angry to I'm sorry for getting angry, to you know what, fuck you, angry again. It was like a full on cycle. She couldn't handle it because like now I've dicked her and now I'm not talking to her. And that must have never happened to her before in her life.
She's famous.
I'm on your Instagram right now and you'll have to forgive me because there's so many chicks here.
I don't know which one it is.
There's me on the couch with a drink and she's sitting on the couch behind me.
She's got a red top on.
I'm wearing a green flowery shirt.
I don't know if you can see it.
A green flower.
If I find it, I'll put it up there.
But yeah, I hear what you're saying.
She absolutely lost her mind.
So now whose attention is valuable?
Mine.
I've withheld it.
Now she'll do anything to get my attention.
So what was happening is if I tagged myself in a nightclub in Mumbai, she'd be turning up.
By day three, she was following me.
All because I didn't play her game.
So most men would see that shit and go, what do you mean?
Any reply is wrong.
It's like the ultimate shit test.
Why are you even playing the game?
The best way to win the game is to not play.
Indifference.
Yeah, indifference.
I don't give a fuck.
I don't care.
And that's not an act for me.
It's the truth.
So it's very easy for me to do the right thing.
Because it's the truth.
This is a really good question, real quick.
This guy, DJ Hansel, he says, how do you train a woman to be loyal in stages?
Does she need to be raised properly?
Is it like a raising thing?
Is it something about like family, do you think?
No.
So in my PhD test, in my PhD course, there is a test, and you need to buy the course to do the test, because the test is the basis of it.
The test is going to give you a head start of whether you know that's a quality woman or not.
So there's the test, but without being ambiguous, I'll answer the question.
I've had girls who I fucked on the first date who ended up being amazing girlfriends.
I've had girls who made me wait months who were dickhead hoes.
I've had girls from single parents who were amazing girlfriends.
I've had girls from loving families who were dickhead hoes.
There is no blueprint that you can look at and go, okay, mom and dad are together.
She has a dog and she, you know, she goes to church.
None of that means a fucking thing.
It's bullshit.
The reality to it is this.
I agree with the red pill speech about the more mates she has, the less likely she is to bond.
And the reason for that is if it's in her mind to jump on a new dick when things get tough, things will inevitably get tough and she will inevitably think about a new dick.
If she's had less dicks, she's less likely to consider that as an option.
So she's more likely to work hard towards fixing a problem.
That is true.
I agree.
That's true.
But the basic strategy and the basic way to train a girl to be loyal in stages It's very simple.
It's all the things we've been talking about thus far.
It's not tolerating bullshit, giving her attention when she behaves, and removing all attention when she doesn't behave, and not allowing her to get any kind of lifestyle or any kind of ideas which are going to be detrimental to her ability to be loyal to you.
If you start a relationship and allow her to go out every night with her girls, she's never going to want that taken away from her.
And that means that she's only one line of coke and too many drinks away from running into me, and it's game over.
So you need to construct a lifestyle on top of all this.
This is the absolute truth.
I know my women love me, but I still don't trust them for shit.
That's the truth.
My girls are fucking beautiful.
They don't go to clubs.
Every dude in the world would be desperate to get in their pants.
And I know they're loyal to me.
I know I'm the best.
But still, why would I allow people to take that shot?
Why would I park my Lamborghini in the worst part of town and go, oh, it doesn't matter.
It's got good locks.
Why let them try?
Why not try and steal your car?
So a lot of it is just being man enough to also build a lifestyle that allows her to not be in many chances to cheat, if that makes sense.
I say this all the time, doesn't matter how good your game is, your girl shouldn't be around dudes all the time.
Right.
That's just a recipe for disaster sooner or later.
So you want a girl to be loyal, you also need to make sure your girl's living a loyal lifestyle to the point where she shouldn't really be interacting with dudes, hardly at all.
She shouldn't be on Instagram.
She shouldn't want to.
She shouldn't hang out with dudes she doesn't want to.
She should have a couple work colleagues she replies one word answers to.
And that should be basically it.
So how is she going to cheat?
Like that's the biggest keys of loyalty.
And they go, well, how do I make her do that?
By not accepting anything else.
Being uncompromising.
If you get with a girl and you sleep with her and she has a bunch of male friends, you can just say, look, I like you, but I'm not prepared to get in a relationship with a girl who hangs around with guys all the time.
Yeah, or has more... Yeah, that's fine.
Has more guy friends than girl friends.
Yeah.
Choose.
Make a choice.
And if she chooses her male friends over you, are you telling me she won't gonna fuck one eventually?
She already picked them over you.
So, this is the most crazy thing about it to me.
To me, it's not even a risk.
They're like, oh, but what if she chooses them?
Like, it's some kind of risk.
If you write that down, choose me or the friends, you either have a proper relationship with a man who cares about you and you don't have male friends, or you can hang out with a bunch of dudes and we ain't talking anymore.
If she chooses to hang around with a bunch of dudes, are you telling me she wasn't going to eventually cheat on you anyway?
To me, you're just saving time.
You're just speeding up the process and keeping your dignity and honor instead of waiting to get cheated on like a little pussy.
Walk out on your feet instead of your knees.
Fly, goodbye.
It's that simple.
Right.
I was just going to just a couple of things in here.
Like, I completely understand what you're talking about with respect to a woman having more, a woman who has more access or has more sexual partners in her past has a lower, higher incidence of divorce, but also a lower incidence of being able to form healthy relationships or healthy attachments to a man in the future.
This is like, this is research, you know, studied stuff, right?
And so, one of the reasons, you just brought this up, and one of the reasons I think that is, is it's not necessarily the sex part of it so much as it is her having a greater pool of guys from which one of them could be you.
One of them could be an alpha guy that she is going to fixate on that, and that answers that hypergamous question, is he the best I can do?
The guy I'm with, no.
But the guy I was with, Back when I was in college, back at the club, back when I was, you know, 22 years old, that guy was so much better.
And so, there's that inability to form that healthy attachment for that guy.
It's what I call the alpha widows, right?
They become widowed to the alpha that they had, the one that got away, and the one that they pine for later, when they are less able to even get that kind of guy later on in life.
Also, another reason I think is, I think that every woman naturally, even Western women, understand.
Every woman naturally, because they biologically understand, they shouldn't fuck lots of people.
There's a stigma around fucking lots of guys.
For every girl, if she slept with one or two guys, the idea of fucking five... You're gonna say to a girl who's had two partners at 23, you're gonna fuck five guys next week.
She'll be like, what the fuck?
Five guys in a week?
What the... Like, they know it's wrong.
So, if a woman's slept with a bunch of guys and they've got rid of that stigma, they've trained that stigma out of them.
Then it's like, well, this guy's being rude to me, so I'll just go get another guy.
Then they become the kind of, they're doing the kind of thing I'm talking about.
And they're just like, fuck them.
Reply, comply, goodbye.
And then they become the one in control.
You know, because there's no stigma against taking a new dick.
So they're like, oh, we'll do as I say and be my slave and be a little pussy around me, or I'm going to go fuck someone else.
Then that's just exactly everything I've been talking about reversed.
You don't want to put yourself in that situation.
That just made me think of this, is that, like, what you were saying there, and remember what we were saying just a little while ago about how, like, I was getting into, I was locking horns with Jeff Miller about, you know, finding a way to get past the jealousy, finding a way to get past that revulsion, right?
Like, if you, then this is like, if you know anything about me, my background is behavioral psychology.
So, it's like, if you can get past Those natural reservations, like you were just saying just a second ago, if you told a girl, if you told the girl, 23 year old girl, next week, you're gonna have sex with five guys, she would be like, Oh, my God, you know, be creeped out.
It'd be weird to be like, you know, like she would want to avoid that, right?
That's a natural, unconditioned, Yeah.
response to, you know, because that seems, because the natural way, of course, is to want to filter, you know, use your hypergerms filters and find the best quality guy, right?
Not just have like random sex with strangers.
But what happens is, so what we do, I think now, with an agenda here, is that we want to condition people, men and women really, to get past that natural revulsion.
Because once you can get past that revulsion instinct, you can mold behavior to be damn near anything you want it to be.
So if you have, for instance, the poly thing, we can teach guys to be more polar, to accept cuckoldry, which to us, we go, Oh, that's, we have that natural revulsion to the idea of being cucked.
But if we can say, well, but here you can get off on this cuckoldry, you can mold that cuckoldry to make that person or to mold that behavior any way that you want to.
Same thing that you're just talking about right there is you can condition women to not think twice about having five guys in one week.
I mean, I'm sure porn stars probably do that as well, right?
You know, they're having sex with whoever, but there was a point where they had to get past that natural revulsion.
And so if you can condition that out of someone, Then you can make them do pretty much anything they want.
But what I always get at when I talk about this stuff is that the reason you have that revulsion instinct in the first place is because it was evolved into you, because it's part of your mental firmware.
It's something you naturally feel like.
Exactly.
And this is what actually blows my mind.
There's two things I hear a lot, which Which aren't real in my reality.
And I'm sure that it's true in their realities, but in my realities, it's untrue.
The first thing I hear is that it's hard to find a good girl.
And the second thing I hear is that girls don't want babies.
They'll do it one by one.
When you say it's hard to find a good girl, yeah, that's true because you're a pussy.
But I think every woman deep down actually wants to be a good girl.
I don't believe women want to really be whores, unless they've had 30 dicks and they're already broken.
Every woman, before she's broken, doesn't want to be a whore.
She wants to find a guy she's happy with and stay with that guy.
I think that, like we just said, that's their natural instinct.
They don't want to be that way.
So if you're saying, I can't find a good girl, you can't find one girl who doesn't want to jump on every dick, the problem is your low value.
That's the truth.
That's the truth of it.
Because most girls want to be that way.
In fact, one of my game tips, I guess, I have this thing with girls I do, and it's like if it's girls I barely talk to, or I haven't spoke to in a long time, or I stopped talking to, I removed all my attention, whatever.
I have this thing where I call girls cheaters.
So let's say I speak to a girl after three years.
After three years, she'll message me.
I say, you're still cheating.
She goes, what do you mean cheatings?
We broke up.
I said, no, once you've been mine, you're mine forever.
Why the fuck you're a cheater?
That's why I got rid of you.
I'm just saying, and I, or I say, or if I stopped talking to a girl and she's like, what's your problem?
Why aren't we talking anymore?
I said, I just, you're nice and you're pretty.
I just don't think you're serious.
I don't think you want anything serious.
If you tell a girl, she doesn't want to be a good girl.
If you tell a girl, she's not quality.
If you tell a girl, you don't want a serious relationship.
I, she will try her ass off.
I see the girls all the time.
Yeah, you're pretty, but you know, I met you in the club and you're really nice, but I just don't know if you want something serious.
Well, I'm a man.
Oh no, I do want something serious.
Why do you think that?
Why do you think bad of me?
Why do you think all of a sudden they're the ones trying to prove they're traditional?
Like, cause you can reverse the game.
So women are instinctually designed to try and prove they're a good girl.
So if you're saying you can't find a good girl, there's something wrong with your game.
Yeah, that's that's interesting.
You should say that because what happens when women fight with other women when they have that intra sexual combat, the first thing women will do is try to disqualify their competitors.
So if you and I'm sure you've done this because you have you have women around you all the time.
I see this happen when I'm at a promo or something like that.
If there's women in a social setting and another woman walks into the room, an unfamiliar one, and she looks good, and she's gaining the attention of guys around that room, what's the first thing that that group of women will do?
They'll go, oh, I can't believe she wore that.
Oh, what a slut.
Only sluts wear that, right?
Or only a non-quality woman looks like that.
And they broadcast that to guys because what they're doing is they are disqualifying that woman from the consideration For, you know, reproduction, long-term, whatever, short-term, from anybody that's in that room.
And how do they do that?
By implying the idea that she would be a bad choice to reproduce with.
Because she will have sex with anybody.
She is loose.
She will go have sex with lots of guys.
Why is that?
Why would that be a disqualifier for a woman?
Well, because men are interested in paternity.
If you're going to have a long term, if men are looking and we're vetting for two things, sexual fitness and paternity, I got to know she's loyal.
She's got to be hot and she's got to be, she's got to be mine.
And I say this all, and this is the side joke I have is every man wants a slut.
He just wants her to be his slut.
Correct.
And that pretty much sums up what women, and women understand this, it's in our hindbrain.
It's like our subroutine that's running in our brains all the time.
And that's why they do that.
That's why they try to disqualify and that disqualification is based on the idea that she would not be a good candidate For your paternity or any of you other guys, I would be, but she wouldn't because only a hoe dressed like that and she won't be loyal.
That's what a woman who won't be loyal looks like.
So she's out, I'm in, look at me, focus on me.
And that's, uh, you're breaking that down for guys.
Sometimes it's like, well, this will happen in the blink of an eye.
It's not like it's like when, when, when a woman walks in and the girl's like, You know, or, and you've probably seen this as well, is if you've been in a social situation and a woman comes in and she's talking to you and your girls are right there and then she goes off, what's the first thing a girl say?
Did you see that dirty look that that bitch gave me?
You know, like they have this because they understand subcommunications.
They understand a whole lot more.
Women are more, uh, And that's the kind of like this is how instantaneous all of what I was just saying.
All of this happens in the blink of an eye.
in front of you, like it was going on right there and you didn't see it, but they do.
And that's the kind of like, this is how instantaneous all of what I was just saying, all of this happens in the blink of an eye. And I think raising awareness for guys of that is very important. Oh, absolutely.
Yeah, completely.
You nailed it.
And like you said, women insult women by saying she's not a good girl.
You tell a girl she isn't a good girl, she wants to prove she's a good girl.
Every woman instinctively wants to be a good girl.
And the way I do it, I don't do it in a horrible, nasty way.
If I disqualify them as a good girl, I do it almost for shits and giggles, or call them a cheater.
They lose their minds.
They can't stand it.
They hate it.
So every woman wants to be a good girl.
So when guys go, there's no good girls left, I say, no, there's a problem with your game.
Something else I teach in the PhD course.
I'm glad you brought that up because I wanted to sort of move this on here a little bit too.
Because people are going to hit me on this and say, well, Rollo, so there's no such thing as a quality woman.
Well, when I say that, I say that because guys take that idea of a quality woman, just like you just did a minute ago here, and they use that as sort of their ideal.
I have a lot to say about this.
Everybody says the chick that they marry is a quality woman, but when they're in the divorce settlement, she's the bitch I married.
She's the ex.
So I think there's that idealistic idea of are there women who would be loyal?
Who would be a better choice?
Yes, but the quality woman narrative is something guys believe in so that they can sell themselves on that kind of girl.
Just like you were saying before, it doesn't matter if the girl goes to church.
It doesn't matter if she comes from a good family.
Like all this stuff, women are women.
And that's what I was getting at when I was saying there's no such thing as a quality woman, because women are just women and you need to work with them by their nature.
I've been asked, sorry, I've been asked this a million times.
Is there such thing as a good girl?
And this is, this is what I say.
The PhD tests I do in the PhD course will tell you if she's a good blueprint and that's all.
If you want a quality woman, you need to build her into a quality woman from the ground up.
She is a reflection of who you are as a man.
My woman, or my women who work for me and have worked for me for four or five years, have made me over a million dollars each, have never cheated, who cook, who clean, who obey, who comply.
Do you think they'd do that for any man who fucked them?
Do you think if some other loser banged them, they'd be doing that for him?
No, I built them into that woman.
I, through being me, through conditioning them, through passing shit tests, through putting down, like we said earlier, putting down red lines that they cannot cross, through whatever, have built myself the perfect woman.
A woman is a reflection of her man.
I was talking to a guy, I won't say who, he's a high profile guy, he's got blue checkmark, he's on Twitter, and he was messaging me saying he has problems.
And he was saying, I can't find a girl who understands that sometimes they need to take a look back and realize they have a part to play in the argument.
I can't find a girl who's this.
And I got advice from this guy or some other guy with a blue checkmark.
And he says, you need to find a girl who's like, been through therapy and done the work.
And I'm like, bro, bro, bro, bro, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
That is all bullshit.
You need to be the kind of man who's going to set boundaries and she's going to comply for them and eventually end up being a good woman for you.
You're never going to find a good woman.
You need to build a good woman.
Now you can get a good blueprint.
You can get a good base model.
Like we said earlier, trying to build a race car.
It's better to start with a fucking Ferrari than it is to start with a fucking Honda.
Obviously, that's normal.
You can get a good base model, but to actually have a truly quality woman where you can say, I'm going to jail for four years.
I'm gonna see you every Sunday for visitation.
You ain't gonna fuck nobody.
That's something you're gonna have to build.
You're not gonna find it.
You're not gonna just stumble out in the world and find it.
Because if girls like that existed naturally in the wild, the very few that do, I guarantee they're already shacked up with some dude and they ain't talking to you.
So, it's like you have to build a quality woman.
Quality women have to be made.
And that's what these guys don't understand.
They're like, oh, there's no such thing as a good girl.
It's like every girl who sticks around me for long enough ends up being a good girl.
Cause I turned into one or they're not there.
They either end up being a good girl or they fail tests and they get tossed aside.
There's no in between.
There's no other possible option.
It's binary.
They're a good girl or gone.
You have to be, you have to make a good girl.
I think that a lot of guys right now, when they're, when they listen to this, they, just like I was saying before, they, they see this as being a lot of effort.
It takes effort on the part of a guy To make a good girl to have that good relationship like to to build that to build the ferrari, right?
You're gonna build a race car, right?
There's still uh, you still have to build it.
You still have to put it all together You have to be the one that is responsible for that.
I think a lot of guys Think that it should be just like turnkey Like you should just be able to just go in and if she should just you know Come to you as as she is and then maybe you guys develop something later on and I think that Really what this is, is it's this idea, it's this old school idea, like it's the old social contract.
Back in the day, when women were more dependent on men, when women had, where they were dependent on them for security, for protection, for provisions, for, you know, to be a good, like, you can talk about that, I keep bringing up the Alpha God here, but like back in the day, in the time of like, you know, the Old Testament or something like that,
There was an understanding that that's what the guy was supposed to do, and this is what women are supposed to do, and they were supposed to be the woman who did all those things that you were just talking about right now.
It was probably a lot easier because there were well-defined gender roles.
Barrier to entry for it to have a good relationship, a man has to put in more.
He's got to be the guy that is actually going to put his foot down, the guy who's going to control the frame of the relationship.
He's got to be the guy who's actually going to, like you were saying, you've got to build that woman into the woman that you want her to be.
Whereas I think a lot of guys still cling to this old school idea that, well, she should just come to me like that.
Or if she came from a good family, then she would already be the perfect girl.
Or if she didn't have feminism, she would already be the perfect girl.
It's like, no, it doesn't work that way.
You have to build that woman into the way that she is or the way that you want her to be.
Hey, I got another question here.
Hang on, let me look at this real quick.
It says, how do I respond?
This is DJ Hansel.
How do I respond to a woman saying to me, you look like a mugger.
I wish my boyfriend was here while I am gaming her.
So you're asking me why I would personally say that.
How do you respond to a woman saying to me, you look like a mugger.
I wish my boyfriend was here while I'm gaming her.
That's actually the boyfriend disclaimer, but I'll let you answer that one.
Yeah, there's lots of different ways to do it.
My philosophy to women is super, super simple.
And it's like I said, it's about attention.
And my biggest weapon is to take away.
So if that was, let's say that happened to me, I consider that an insult.
Negative reinforcement.
Mostly.
And she said she has a boyfriend or whatever.
So if she said, I wish my boyfriend was there, I'd say, oh, you have a boyfriend?
I don't like girls with boyfriends.
Have a good night.
And I'd walk off.
That's the truth.
That's what I genuinely do.
And I'm guaranteeing you, she'd sit there and go, And she'd be pissed off that the guy who was giving her attention just vanished.
Now, there's gonna be other guys who'll say, do other things.
I'm just telling you what I would do.
Cause I've had similar situations.
My boyfriend's coming soon.
Oh, boyfriend.
You have a boyfriend?
I don't, I don't like girls with boyfriend.
You shouldn't be a virgin when I meet you.
No, no, no.
Bye.
Some bullshit and walk off and I'll just vanish on them.
I just do the takeaway.
And that's always worked very well for me because girls, when you start gaming a girl, she doesn't expect you to just disqualify her.
Oh, you're not good enough.
Bye.
They don't, their ego's confident.
Oh, you have a boyfriend?
Oh, I don't like girls with boyfriends.
Goodbye.
You're telling her she ain't good enough.
And that's what's always worked well for me.
That's what I would personally say.
Yeah, it's funny, I 100% agree with you, but I think that there is, in old school PUA, there was this idea that you, depending on who you are, if you had the ethics that said, you know what, I don't want to deal with a, you know, if she's already in a relationship, whatever, that's what it's called the boyfriend disclaimer.
When a woman starts talking about her boyfriend while you are in the process of talking to her or chatting her up, she is saying that she's inserting that into the conversation To basically tell you, I know what you're doing and I'm not into it.
So at that point, you can either do what you, what you would do is just like, Hey, I'm not into girls with boyfriends.
See you later.
Um, or like a lot of guys will say the P from the PUA side, they will say, well, you know, you can push past that.
You gotta, you gotta run what's called a boyfriend destroyer.
You can, you can move past that.
But my, My take on that was always if the chick is not 100% into you, if she's not 100% interest, if there's not 100% genuine desire, I don't want to be responsible for having to try to kick that up if she's not really into it, right? If she doesn't have the genuine desire, if she's not really into me, if she's not the kind of girl who wants to blow off her boyfriend to get with me
in the first place, like I want a woman who has the kind of desire where she will tattoo her name on her body, your name on your body. I was going to bring that out.
That kind of, but, but that be her idea. Not me going, Hey, why don't you talk to my name on your butt? No, she goes, you know what? Look, I got this new tattoo. It's your name.
That's where you want. That's the desire. If a girl says to me, Oh, well, if I'm talking to a girl for a while and she goes, well, what will my boyfriend think?
I'll say, well, are you going to tell him?
Are you going to tell him?
And they start laughing.
You can say, like, who's telling him?
I'll tell him if you want.
I'll tell him.
I'll tell him right now that I thought that me and you were going to get married.
What's he going to do?
I'll be very like, fuck him.
That's how I'll be.
But the way he phrased the question, if she's saying, you're a mugger, I can't wait till my boyfriend gets here, as in he's on his way, but then you may as well fucking pull the ego shot to her and leave anyway, because otherwise you're gonna end up in a fist fight when the dude turns up.
So like, you know, like you, there's not much else you can do there besides, oh, boyfriend, disqualify it.
But if I'm talking to a girl online or something, and she goes, what would my, and I say, look, you're coming with me, I'm gonna see you on Thursday, what would my boyfriend think?
I'll just reply, don't tell him then, question mark.
Or if someone has to tell him I will, he won't say shit.
I said, he's a pussy. So you can disqualify him in a few different ways. But yeah, the boyfriend thing happens now and again. But the way he asked that question, I don't think there's much else you can do. Yeah. Boyfriends go. That's one thing I say when people, girls go, I have a boyfriend.
Yeah. I want to get into this too. I got We're coming up on the 2 hour mark here.
We've got about 20 minutes left.
I do want to ask you this because I know you're doing the PhD program and I know right now you're in LA and you're doing these seminars, well I guess they're get-togethers or whatever, the War Room thing.
One of the things I see and I I find this kind of fascinating, particularly in the environment that the Manusphere has been sort of, I don't know, evolving into recently.
There seems to be more guys, like you were saying before, the guys who are looking for that traditional, they want one chick, they want to go to church, they don't want to listen to what I have to say, because what I have to say with respect to women, or any of this conversation that we've just had over the course of this last hour and a half, They would take that as being degeneracy.
They would take that as being, well, you're destroying Western culture.
Tate is bad.
But what I find fascinating is the same guys that end up in your war room.
Are the same guy, like having this conversation right now, if it comes from you, if you're talking about this stuff, I mean, pretty much everything we've discussed here, if I talk about spinning plates, if I talk about, you know, not genuine desire, if I start talking about aspects of hypergamy, they'll come down on me for that, because they think that that is non-traditional, that doesn't go with their religious beliefs, or maybe their ideological, it could be political, their political
you know, convictions, right? And but yet you seem to be able to get these guys to still want to live the kind of lifestyle that you are living right now. But it seems like they're trying to balance what you like your life with the kind of life that they claim to want, like that traditional conservative lifestyle with the good girl. But yet you're telling the like the stuff you're saying, I don't think they would disagree with. But yet it seems like there's kind of like, I don't call it
hypocrisy, but there's just sort of like a contradiction that's going on. Yeah, let's talk about it. So So.
What's the first thing?
Let's take it away from girls.
What's the first thing online?
Let's say if you're a strong guy or you're a fighter, the first thing you get messages about is, well, what's the point in learning how to fight?
Or if you have a Lamborghini, well, that car is impractical.
Exactly what we were saying earlier with the girls.
Well, she's a hoe.
Oh, anyone who comes along and says that a man who lives an uncompromising life who does whatever he wants and has unlimited access to beautiful females is living a life wrong is a man who is jealous and is trying to disqualify that lifestyle because they can't have it.
That's all it is.
They want to make themselves feel better about the fact that they cannot build that life.
If you were to say to any man, do you want a harem of four to five women who are beautiful and all loyal to you, knowing you cheat?
They're going to sit there and go, well, yeah, of course I do.
But because they believe they can't have it, they're going to sit there and go, that's bad, that's bad, that's bad.
That's just typical human psychology.
That's just typical disqualification.
I make men be honest with themselves, especially in the war room.
In the war room, we've got policy and the way it goes through.
You have to be honest with yourself about what you want.
There is no man alive in his 20s who doesn't want more than one female.
I'm going to say that, and it's going to piss a whole bunch of trad cons off.
Maybe you have religious whatever.
Maybe you want this, this.
If you are honest with yourself, there's no 20-year-old man who doesn't want more than one chick for the rest of his fucking life.
Let's cut the bullshit.
I'm not saying you can't find one girl you love.
I'm not saying you can't have a family.
I'm not saying, hey, I love my girls.
I love them with all my heart.
If a man touched them, I'd fucking rip his throat out.
But I'll still fuck something else.
And I'll do that very easily without a guilty conscience.
And I think that's a normal attitude for a lot of men, especially when you're younger.
Like, the idea that you can't possibly... That's another female imperative that's been drilled into the heads of women.
That if a man loves you, he wouldn't want another girl.
That is bullshit!
That is the biggest crock of shit.
And that's female imperative.
A man can love you with all his heart, a man can be ready to take a bullet for you, and he can still walk over there and have a threesome with those two hoes.
Very easily, very easily can a man do that.
So all the people who come along and say, I know he's degenerate, he's bad, there's a huge tint of jealousy in there.
That's the first thing.
The second thing is, I built a life out of exploiting the pre-existing sexual dynamic.
I didn't create thirst traps.
I didn't create betas.
I didn't create webcam.
I didn't create any of this.
I saw a gap in the market and I exploited it.
If there's a man who owns a liquor store and alcoholics keep buying liquor from him, is he a bad man?
Well, if he closes his liquor store, let us buy it somewhere else.
So the only person whose life gets, his life gets worse, no one's life gets better.
I'm making millions of dollars a year.
Why should I close down in the name of morality so these guys can go send money to some other girls?
I don't save the world.
I just damage my own life.
So I don't have any moral objections.
I've exploited a sexual dynamic which has been created, and I don't see any problem with that.
So a lot of people who have an issue with me, part of it's jealousy.
I think a lot of it is jealousy because a whole bunch of dudes just don't like the harsh reality of the life I live.
And they sit there, and when they're forced to accept that my women, knowing I cheat, are more loyal than their wife, Most of the time, it grates on them to a level that they can't tolerate.
It just bothers them.
It's a huge thing, and that's all it is.
But I make men, especially in the war room, I make men be accepting of what they really want.
Last night at the war room event, I said to the guys, every guy, I said, you're king of the world.
You're Jesus and you control minds.
How many wives do you want?
Every single one of them is like, well, three, To be honest with our company.
I'm not saying that you're less of a man if you don't have it.
I'm not saying anything like that.
I'm saying if you're truly in touch with your biological instinct, especially because I'm starting to feel it now.
I'm only 32, but I'm starting to think like if I've got two chicks around the house now, that's enough.
When I was 23, 24, there was like seven, eight girls living with me.
It was insane.
You know, so like, especially when you're younger, this is the natural state of man.
And anyone who says it's not true is a fucking liar.
And they'll convince themselves it's not true because they can't pull it off.
And that's up to you.
But I'm a person who's very, very in touch with what he wants and refuses to compromise.
I don't give a shit what society says.
There's two more points I want to mention quickly.
The first one is about that, uh, if he loves me, he will never love you.
You wouldn't want to cheat thing.
That is the ultimate weapon.
The female pair imperative has instilled.
And one of the things I get asked the most about is how do your women accept cheating?
And I can talk about this at length, because I get this all the time.
I've got a girl, but I want other girls.
How do I get her to accept cheating?
I get this all the time.
And I try and explain that it's actually not very, very difficult.
She has to obviously respect you.
You have to obviously be in a super dominant position.
You can't just pull this off if you're jack average.
I'm not saying that.
But my point is very simple, is that females show love.
Through sexual exclusivity.
This is how females show their dedication to a man.
And men have been conditioned that they have to show love and show dedication through sexual exclusivity.
And this is not natural for men.
And the way that most men show their love is purely through sexual exclusivity.
If you can find another way to show a girl you love her.
Anyway, it can be stupid.
If you can find another way to show a girl you love her and she knows that she only gets that but other girls get sex, she will still be satisfied enough in the relationship.
So I had one guy come to me.
It's about a couple months ago.
He said he joined the war room.
He bought the PhD course.
He had a girlfriend.
He goes, I want what you've got.
I'm cutting the bullshit.
I want lots of women.
How do I have multiple girls?
I said, all right, here's what you're gonna do.
We're gonna start off easy.
You're going to start sleeping with other girls.
You're not going to tell your girl you're going to wait till you get caught because there's no point sitting down trying to be rational with females.
It doesn't work.
Wait till you get caught.
Don't try and get caught, but wait till you get caught.
You got caught.
We did a Skype call.
He goes, what do I do now?
It's like, look, be uncompromising.
Be very, very clear about, look, I fuck girls, but I only love you.
It ain't a big deal.
If you want to leave me, leave me.
Be indifferent.
Just be very strict with it.
Anyway, we got to a point where he now, him and his girlfriend have an agreement.
He only sleeps next to her because he hugs her, he cuddles her, he kisses her.
He only sleeps there.
But if he's out and he fucks girls, as long as he comes home, she doesn't even ask anymore.
So this is a guy I've taken from, if I cheat, she'll leave, to now his girl going, well, you can fuck anyone you want because I know you don't love them, but you have to sleep next to me.
And he's messaging me all the time with these hoses banging.
And he's like, I can't believe it.
And I was like, no, it's very simple.
Your woman has a way to latch her mind onto believing that you only love her because you're showing your love through another method as opposed to sexual exclusivity.
If you remove and change that barrier, it's very easy to sleep with lots of women and your women go, yeah, but I know he loves me.
And she'll be secure enough to let you do it.
It's really doable.
And it's not doable for everyone.
I mean, if you're not in control of your chick or you're barely hanging on to a relationship, don't try that shit.
But that's the game.
But this whole idea that men have to be sexually exclusive to show that they're dedicated to a woman is a complete fucking farce.
Like I said, I'll take a bullet.
If 10 men were to walk in here with machetes and try and rape my girl, I would die defending her.
But I will cheat on her ass every fucking day.
And that's the reality of the life.
That's the reality.
That's part of, um, it's, uh, gosh, I forget the, no, it's, um, it's, what is it?
Strategic pluralism theory, which is that they, we talk about this in the red pill a lot, which is the 80, 20 rule, right?
85% of guys are always going to be on the low end of the sexual market value.
Now, that's not to say that they can't make more of themselves.
They can, but then there's the top 20 percenters and there's this idea that if you are, if there's, if it's not one man, one woman, then that means like, for instance, like you say, you've got three girls.
That means two more guys out there don't have a wife and they're going to get pissed off and they're going to be the guys that come in with the machetes and try to take what you have.
That's sort of the downside of polyamory, I guess, is that it is a destabilizing of society.
Yes, it's not stable.
It's destabilizing of society in that, like, if there's, like, this is why we see, like, countries that are, where polyamory is the norm, they tend to be the most war-torn countries that there are.
Because if there's one guy that's got four wives, that means three other dudes don't have a wife, and therefore those three guys get together and they want to go and kill Tate because he's got three women and that's the only way we're going to get through this.
Why are they socially conditioning men So this is how it started.
The social conditioning that if you're a real man, you only want one woman.
But now it's gone so far to the point where we're into Pauly and all this other crazy shit.
But that's all part of the social conditioning.
They don't give a shit.
Here's the reality about it.
Most men do not have happy marriages.
Most men are sitting in a marriage where they don't get sex, they're not respected, working a job they hate to pay bills for kids who don't listen to them, and they're on the verge of fucking suicide.
But they're afraid to get divorced because they know the court will turn on them and destroy them.
This is the reality for most men.
And I know this, because these are all the customers who are talking to my girls, crying their eyes out late at night, halfway through a bottle of whiskey, saying they wish they could do their life again.
I've seen it.
I know this is true.
But this is what society wants, because it allows a taxpayer to raise the kids, a little family unit, put the ants in the right boxes, the government ain't gonna raise them, bang.
I know that men like me are no good for a government.
How am I good for a government with all my females?
Imagine I started impregnating them all and just, and whenever any one of them half annoyed me, I said, welcome to the struggle, bitch.
Bye.
Like who's raising those kids?
A whole bunch of cucks.
And the government is, I don't give a fuck.
I won't do it.
I know men like me are hard to control.
Men like me are the absolute public enemy.
Number one, they don't want people thinking like me.
So of course that's, that's, that's the whole point of the man, the woman.
And that's why they say, if you're a real man and you, if you really loved her, you wouldn't cheat.
That is complete.
Bullshit.
It's absolute bullshit.
It's not true.
Um, I was really quickly though.
I, I think that the, the paradox that I'm seeing right here is like, I, and I understand a hundred percent.
I get what you're saying.
I've said this before, is that men's basic instinct are a natural evolved.
If we had, if we had the, like you said, if we could be Jesus and turn had mind control and all this other stuff, You think all the men writing these thirst trap captions on Instagram, you think they're not all fucking, they probably all half of them are married, half of them have a girlfriend, you think they're not carrying on chasing some other hoe?
Yeah, they would like to.
That's a male instinct!
Yeah, that's a male.
Let's see.
Here's the thing is like that.
But not every guy can be Tate.
Not every guy can be that top 20 percent.
So what those guys do there.
So so for the guys who are in the top 20 percent, they can pursue because they are higher sexual market value.
They can pursue women as they as they're not as their nature would imply.
Right.
They would say, I want unlimited access to unlimited sexuality.
And then there's the guys who are the bottom 80 percent.
And they're the ones who will try to coerce you Yeah.
into believing that it's unnatural for that, or you're a man whore, or you're ruining society, or Western culture is declining because you guys keep nailing all these chicks, ruining these girls for guys like me who want to take care of them and have a good Western family.
These are the guys, and what, what, what I, okay, so, so putting that out there, there's the, this is, I just, in, in brief, I just gave you the strategic pluralism theory.
Guys who are on the low end of the sexual market value scale, the 80% are guys.
Those are the ones who are always going to advocate for religion, for traditional conservatism.
Those are the guys who are going to say, one man, one woman.
And if you don't do it, the whole system's going to go to hell.
And that's the way it should be, because it's actually what works in the best interest of them, because at least it ensures them to get it with one woman, right?
If not many women, at least I get one.
And these are the guys, of course, who are addicted to porn, addicted to feminism.
in the hope that poorish women would suck their dicks.
Yes.
The feminism was propped up by betas from the beginning.
This is why male feminists are always the biggest creeps on earth.
These men, this is what the betas don't understand.
Betas say the sexual marketplace is so difficult and they're correct.
They made it difficult for themselves by promoting this feminism garbage and coming along with this bullshit.
We make all women hoes, maybe she might fuck me one day.
It's just bullshit, man.
And I completely agree.
If you're at the bottom, 80% is difficult.
My answer to you is to try and raise your value.
Yeah.
Don't be the 80%.
Tips you can do.
I mean, you know, build yourself up.
And that's why, and that's why today, that's why this Lost Boys Generation is so, they need They need father figures.
They need guys to to give them direction.
One of the reasons Jordan Peterson is so influential is because he least he said, hey, go this way.
Try this.
Right.
And it's like, you know, clean your room, stand up straight.
That kind of stuff sounds revolutionary to these guys because nobody's ever, you know, slapped him upside the head and say, look, you know what you're saying, what I think.
But what I wanted to ask you this and I'll get to this other question here in just a second.
Yes.
But yeah, I agree with you.
I think we're both on the same page here.
But yeah, I see a lot of these traditional conservative guys seeking you out.
They look for you.
They're looking towards you.
They're looking to you as some, maybe they're the guys who are looking for a thing, but they want to.
It's almost like they're going against that conviction.
Yeah.
There's a big part to that.
And there's another big thing I get guys come to me for.
And a lot of guys, I have guys come to me who may be married, and they may have one woman, but they want their woman to listen to them.
I think I have another thing that people find interesting about me.
It's not that I just get females.
How do I get females to comply?
How do I get females to work for me for free and give me all the money?
My wife doesn't listen to me, but this guy has girls listen to him.
So I do have a lot of traditional guys who I think come to me maybe for that reason.
I mean, I know that every guy wants loads of chicks, but I do have guys coming.
How do I get a woman to obey me?
Because deep down, every man on earth, it doesn't matter who you are, every man on earth wants to feel respected.
You want to feel respected, especially from your woman.
If you feel like your woman doesn't respect you, you're going to live an unhappy life.
If she talks to you like you're a punk, you're going to be unhappy.
Men value respect to the point where, in the olden days, if a man dishonored a man, it was a duel.
You said what, motherfucker?
Someone's got to die.
You can't call me a name.
Men value respect.
So, when your woman's hitting on you and not respecting you and calling you names and shit, this is why you're so miserable.
So, men want to feel respected.
So, I have a lot of guys come to me and say, how do I make my woman respect me?
And how that's done, we've discussed already a lot throughout this podcast.
But I think that's one of the appealing things I have is when guys understand that I do have a can business, I do have girls who obey me.
I have guys who don't like the answer because the answer is you have to cut the ones who don't obey and you have to be ruthless and you have to be a man.
But then when you start telling them that they're like, oh, I'm not man enough to do that too much.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I can't do that.
Well, I have, um, I have guys.
Well, we'll hit me up.
And they're usually older guys are usually between they're in the prime suicide demographic, which is like 45 to like 60 somewhere on there.
And.
These are the guys who just want to have a better marriage.
They just want their wives to have sex with them because they've gone so long and they don't know how to do it.
Women fuck men they respect.
I have girls who have said to me, you know what?
I actually fucking hate you, but I can't stand you.
Like, at dinner, and then fuck me same night.
Women will fuck you if they don't like you, if they respect you.
It's nothing to do with like, it's nothing to do with nice, it's nothing to do with love, even love.
It's to do with respect.
How many times have you heard a girl go, well, I still really love him, I love him, but we're just not right for each other.
She can still love you, but she doesn't respect you, she ain't fucking you.
It's all down to respect.
If you want a woman to sleep with you, she needs to respect you.
I'll tell you something now, man.
Women want sex more than men do.
I turn down sex 90% of the time.
I can't be asked.
My chick wants sex or all these chicks want sex more often than I can be bothered to do it because I got to do all the work.
So, women should be the ones chasing the man.
When they respect you, they become dick obsessed.
Every time I open my phone anywhere public, if anyone's ever like kind of looking over my shoulder, all they see is just titties.
It's just fucking all these chicks are sending me pics and all that.
All it is, please bang me.
Because this is how women are.
They respect you.
They want it non-stop.
My dad used to say, the pole gets tired before the hole.
It's true.
This is the reality of it.
Women will become completely frigid as fuck when they don't respect you.
So you have to make a woman respect you.
So I have a lot of guys come to me and say, how do I make a woman respect you?
But they don't like the answer.
The answer is the hard, cold truth is that if you have no other options, how would she respect you?
Trump said it.
Art of the deal.
Know when to walk away from the table.
If you will never walk away from the table, Well, then you never have a bargaining position.
If you never have a bottom line, you never have a bargaining position.
If you never have a red line they can't cross, you never have a bargaining position.
So, if you're never prepared to walk away, you're never going to be truly, truly respected.
I've been with my girls five, six, seven, one of them eight years.
But she knows to this day, there's limits of how much she can fuck with me.
People say to me all the time, Tate's gonna end up lonely.
Tate's unhappy.
Tate's never gonna have a quality girl.
I've had a girl longer than most of you guys have been married.
I've had a girl who's fucking a 10 or a 9 in my book.
She's hot as fuck for 8 or 9 years.
I've had a girl forever.
And here I am, and she's still listening to me.
So you can't tell me I don't understand long-term relationships.
It's exactly the same.
And she's a female, so my life's not perfect.
Every once in a while, she gets out of line.
But she knows there's lines she can't cross with me.
Because she knows I'll just fucking vanish.
And I'll vanish until she's begging to see where the fuck I am.
That's just what I'll do.
She knows it.
You know, and you've got to be that way.
So, guys come to me and say, how do I get my woman to respect me?
And then I tell them the truth and they're like, oh, I don't want to do that.
Well, then you never have a line.
You never have a red line.
You're never going to have that truth.
You'll put up with anything.
Yeah, you'll put up with anything.
You'll put up with anything in the end.
So, who gives a shit what you say?
Words are cheap.
Talk is cheap.
It's all about the action.
It's how you gotta be.
And a lot of these men are just too afraid of their girl fucking someone else.
Yeah, whatever you can't say no to makes you its slave.
That's what it says.
Absolutely true.
Okay, we're at two o'clock here.
I want to throw this one on here because I thought this was pretty funny.
This is DJ Han Solo again.
He says, do you believe Taoism and Zen is important in life and martial arts?
Anything that can emotionally affect you can steal your power.
I don't know if I've ever asked you this before, yeah.
What do you think of that? Yeah, so we're gonna apply this to women because we're talking about women right now. Anything that can emotionally affect you can steal your power. If you allow a woman to make you angry, she can control you. Maybe she can only control you in one direction, but she can control you.
She can say X words and you'll react X way.
You've given her a control mechanism.
You've given her a way to affect you.
Indifference is the absolute weapon against fema- fema- is fema- is femality a word?
Femality?
Formality?
Femaleness?
Femininity?
Indifference is the absolute weapon to formality.
Against formality.
Because if she can control you, of course you have to be Zen.
Because you can't allow things to make you angry because then she can control you.
I'll give you an example of how women think very quickly.
When I was fighting, every single girl I was dating, they behaved most of the time, but when it was a three or four days before a fight and I was on edge and I was nervous and I was weight depleted, I'd lost like five or six kilos.
I haven't eaten in three days.
I haven't drank water.
I'm tired.
I'm on edge.
I can't sleep.
When I was on my, when I was most vulnerable to bullshit, they'd all try and start some bullshit.
And I'd say to them, I'd sit there and say, I'm about to get in the cage and I could die.
People die.
I could die in the cage if you distract me from my upcoming fight with this bullshit about dirty plate.
Do you really think now's the time to argue?
Well, I'm just saying, I've said before about the plate.
They don't give a fuck if you die in the cage.
They don't give a fuck if you die.
They want an argument because they want to affect you emotionally.
Once you're susceptible to emotional affection, they're going to come at you.
So, I mean, at the time, all I had to do was just get rid of them, stay calm, kick them out the house and just ignore them.
And after the fight, bang a bunch of ring girls, watch them cry and beg for me back.
But the point is this, if you're always the guy that they can emotionally affect, then they're going to do it like a cat with a fucking string for fun, like a puppet.
Let me make up an argument.
Let me just fuck with him.
He's at work.
Let me just make up some bullshit.
Let me fuck with his day.
It's all a game.
It's the soap opera we were talking about.
You got to be Zen to it all.
If a girl messages you some bullshit, okay.
Or just don't reply.
You've got to be so zen that they're like, well, he doesn't give a fuck.
The only way he shows he gives a fuck is if I behave so perfectly that he starts giving me attention.
When I cook and clean, and I suck dick, and I'm quiet, and I behave so perfectly, then he starts to talk to me a lot more.
But otherwise, he's completely uninterested in me.
That's the only way.
If you're going to allow women to annoy you, if you're going to start screaming, bitch, you better shut up, bitch.
If you're going to start doing that shit, she's just going to play with you all day long because they love a soap opera.
Chicks love a soap opera.
That's why you'll say, like, a woman will be with an abusive man and you'll see her shouting at him, fuck you.
You can beat her up.
She doesn't care.
She doesn't care.
She wants the fun of it all.
She wants the drama of it all.
I know that's going to send the world into a tailspin.
Women would rather cry over an asshole than be saddled with a boring out better than bored Except bore her.
This is the fault in line.
This is why they like funny guys funny ain't enough anymore Hey, this is a good this is a good one now because I've written about this as well He says don't women and men view respect differently.
I would say yes I don't know if you would say yes or no, but I think yes, and I'll tell you why I I've said this before, is that men and women have different concepts of love, but they also have different concepts for other things, and respect is one of those things.
So, when women are raised, particularly in Western society, there is this presumption that they get a default respect just for being a woman.
Like, you don't respect women!
When men hear that, we go, what have they done to earn my respect?
The reason for that is because men, our concept of respect is between other guys.
So, I respect you, you respect me.
Why?
Because I know what you've done, you know what I've done.
There's a dominance hierarchy in there, but there's also a meritocracy that is in there.
It's unspoken.
We don't go, well, what have you done to earn my respect?
We don't do that, but we understand that kind of innately when we're dealing with each other as men.
And so there's a male kind of respect, and then there's the female kind.
So women, when we talk about respect with women, women think of that not as, oh, I got to earn respect.
I'm a woman, so I'm already deserving of respect.
And this goes back to what I've always said, is that men must become, and women just are.
So, when we view that dynamic in terms of respect, men must earn and become respect.
Women just are respect.
And so, that's where I go with that.
Would you agree with that?
I completely agree.
Another thing I've noticed with respect between the males and the females is that men can separate respect from their emotions and they can respect retrospectively.
So with a man, let's say I'm doing business with a man and we make a lot of money and then we have an argument and we fall out.
I can sit and go, you know what?
I don't like that guy anymore.
But back then he was okay.
We had a good time together.
So I have enough respect for him.
I'm just going to leave it be, you know?
Not all men, but some men can do that.
Whereas a woman, she respects you when she respects you and she hates you when she hates you.
There's no such thing as, well, I used to love him.
You talk about divorcing.
That's the perfect example.
I used to love him, so I don't want to destroy his life.
When does a woman ever say that?
No, I loved him and I loved him with all my heart.
Now I don't love him.
Fuck him.
I'm going to ruin everything.
Like they don't, they don't think, well, I used to love that man.
He gave me three kids who I love.
I don't want to leave him on the street.
They don't, that doesn't cross their fucking mind.
So women are only, women only respect you when, while they love you as and when it's never an eternal thing.
Men can have respect for each other forever.
I have men who I fought in the cage and we were enemies effectively, but I still respect him.
I'll still shake his hand.
And you know, but women don't work that way.
Women are purely emotional.
And that's how it is.
And that's why the idea that a woman will, Oh, she loves me now.
She loved me forever.
You know, it's that, that I agree with.
There's a, there's a whole bunch of bullshit.
They have different concepts.
They have different concepts of respect, but it's not that women don't understand that.
Men have a separate concept of respect than women do.
So like you were just saying, a woman is not going to have sex with you unless she respects you.
Yeah, I get that.
But for him, respect is based on merit.
You have to be the guy who is worthy of respect, who has merited that respect.
So women do, because I think what people are going to say as well.
Well, if they see it differently than men, then how is it that they have sex with a guy that they respect?
Well, it's because they do recognize the respect dynamic amongst other men.
I've said this a million times is that women want to be with a guy who other men want to be and other women want to fuck.
And that is all based on respect.
The easiest way to make a woman respect you is for her to realize you have access to all these other women.
And then she's going to respect.
And then on an instinctive level, she's just going to respect you as a man.
There's something instinctively there.
Well, he's a man and he can fuck all these girls.
She has to respect you on some level.
Yeah, it's pre-selection is what it is.
Women see you as being pre-selected and they see that men look up to you or they have some sort of respect for you.
Even if they don't look up to you, at least they have some respect for what you've done and what you're about.
And this goes into the tattoos because I get asked all the time about how I get girls to get tattoos.
I get asked this all the time.
And that's and they think I've got some trick like I tricked the girl or I forced the girl or it's really not like that.
One of its respect is a huge respect is a huge part of it.
The girls are proud of my name to the point where they respect me enough that they're happy to put my name on them.
But the other thing is the thing we talked about earlier about how there's no good girls and how if you tell a girl she's not a good girl, how much it bothers them.
And that's about 90% of the tattoo game.
So, I'll say to the girl, well, you're serious about us.
She goes, yeah, I'm serious.
I said, why don't you tattoo my name on you?
Because we're going to split up.
I said, well, I thought you were serious.
Well, I am.
Are you going to cheat?
No, I'm not going to cheat, but you might cheat.
So what?
So if I talk to a girl, you're going to leave me?
That's not, I thought you were loyal.
Well, I am loyal.
So then if you're loyal to me and you're a good girl and you do as I say, why are we going to split up?
Well, we're not.
Then what's the problem with the tattoo?
Yeah, I mean, it's pretty simple logic.
You sit there and go, and then one day they walk in, surprise, look what I did for you.
You know, it's like, I told you you're not a good girl.
Show me you're a good girl.
So when they say there's no such thing as good girls, these girls will do anything to prove to you they're a good girl.
If they respect you and you qualify it correctly.
So when a girl refuses to get a tattoo, I'm like, well, why?
Why wouldn't you?
I thought you were serious.
Like all the blames on her.
Like, are you going to cheat?
Are you going to run off?
I thought we were serious here.
And now it's funny because all these girls say, yep, I've seen on your Instagram, all these other girls have tattoos and you're not with them anymore.
You left them.
I was like, oh, so you're going to act stupid like they did.
I just flip it all on that.
It's all them.
And they do it voluntarily.
There's no me marching them down to the tattoo parlor with a gun.
And I know this blows guys' minds.
They're like, it must be some trick.
He pays the money.
Yeah.
He pays for his chicks.
Yeah.
Well, that's, that's fine.
Okay.
I got it.
I got to cut us off here real quick, but I do want to like, okay.
Echo Alpha said, what do you think of the, we've talked about Pauly all throughout this.
So.
But I do want to end with this because I think this is actually kind of along the lines of what we've just been talking about.
Alex asked us, he said, it would be interesting to see Tate's take on Dan Blitzerian.
Okay.
What do you think?
Okay, because everybody has said this.
Anytime Dan Blitzerian puts a tweet out there, everybody goes, the first response anybody says is, you pay for your women.
All those girls are just models you bought.
They think that it's all about the money or it's all about the grift for him.
But then I, this really kind of, I'm glad this guy asked this because it goes back to what I was asking you before.
Like you have Dan Blitzerian who is with nines and tens.
I would say these girls are nines and tens that he's with.
I can show you messages with three girls who've been on his boat.
Yeah, so it's like, so it's like, okay, I get that.
But then, you know, so he is who he is.
Everybody gets what he's all about.
And then he'll go on, he'll go on the, what was that interview?
He was just in an interview where he was saying, yeah, I'm thinking about slowing down.
I really want to get with one woman.
And I want to live a more, like, conservative, you know, traditional lifestyle with one chick, and then he'll occasionally, like, in between his Instagram shots of his Halloween parties, he's like, oh, is this all there is to life kind of thing?
And what happens is when a guy like that puts out those tweets, or he in some way affirms for Trad cons.
He affirms for them like, oh, see, even Dan Blitzerian, he can have anything he wants and he still comes back and he still wants the basics of life, which is a good woman and, you know, two kids and a dog in the yard and a white picket fence.
And so they use that as kind of like their own like self-righteous justification for, you know, for their own, for what it is. But I want to throw that out there because I'm interested as well. Like what do you think about Dan Blitzerian, particularly with his, with respect to him having it all and then still wanting to live that more like conservative lifestyle?
He's trolling.
You think? I think so, yeah.
I'll give an example.
We'll talk about Dan Bilzerian quickly.
So many people try and compare us to, and we're not the same.
One, because he has more access to females than I do.
I'll be honest, the guy can get any girl on earth because he has a much higher status than I do.
He's more famous than I am.
Let's be honest.
So that's the first thing.
Second thing, we're in a different category, because although I don't think he pays his girls, I know for a fact, because I know girls who have fucked him, who I've fucked too, he pays their flights, he pays their hotel.
So he does look after the girls, whereas my girls work for me and give me money.
So in many ways, I see me as above him from a game perspective, because I'm saying, I'm going to teach you how to make girls pay you.
Whereas he can never teach that because he just pays for his girl's things.
He doesn't physically hand them money, but he's a multi-multi-multi-millionaire.
So he'll book him a flight.
He'll do whatever, whatever.
So I think we're on different planes.
We have different attitudes towards women.
That's the first thing.
The second thing is, I'll tell you something I do.
If I pull up to a gas station in a Lambo and a guy comes out and goes, wow, that's all Lambo.
I'd love to have a Lambo.
I usually reply something like, yeah, it's uncomfortable.
And I do that to come across as an ungrateful fuck.
Like, I have the car everyone dreams of and I'm moaning the seats too hard.
And it's almost like another level of fuck you on top.
So yeah, it's alright, but it's uncomfortable.
And that's all Dan Bilzerian's doing.
Oh, I have all these models.
Is there nothing else to life?
It's a troll.
It's just an extra level.
You get to a level of fuck you when you know you have something everyone wants.
To pretend you don't want it is a fuck you.
That's all he's doing.
If he wanted the traditional life, why doesn't he live it?
Yeah, he could do it tomorrow.
He could do it tomorrow.
I'm not going to sign up for a fucking multi, multimillion dollar husband.
You have to look at people's actions, not their words.
He obviously very happy with what he's doing because he continues to fucking do it.
So this is the reality of it.
So anyone who's tries to look at Dan Bilzerian to justify a trad life is a fucking moron.
Anyone who tries to look at Dan Bilzerian and say that his life is vapious and he's unhappy, look, he's going to need kids one day because I think men have a natural, we all want offspring.
This is natural.
Are you going to have kids?
Do you want to have kids?
Do you want to get married?
Maybe you don't want to get married.
I'm going to have loads of kids.
I want kids.
When do you want to do that?
When do you want to start doing that?
I mean, I'm 32, which I guess I'm kind of old.
As a man, you don't have a ticking clock, really, do you?
So maybe when I'm 33, 34, this is actually another thing that I don't want to say anything that's going to get us banned or anything, but I'm half black, half white.
So this isn't racist, but all the black side of my family.
They just, their strategy for keeping girls is almost to get them pregnant.
I know this sounds, I'm not trying to be racist.
I'm saying I know black guys, my black cousins who go, yeah, I like her, she's hot, so I'm gonna give her a baby, and then she can't cheat.
That's like literally their mating strategy.
They're not interested in raising that kid.
They ain't gonna stay at home and be dad.
They ain't got any money, so she can't take them to divorce court, because they ain't got anything.
That's just their strategy to fucking keep their women in line, just to get their babies out.
So that's another whole nother strategy you can discuss.
Yeah, I absolutely am going to have kids and I think it's natural for a man to want to have kids and want to have offspring.
I think it's a beautiful thing.
And I think every man should want to do it.
Am I going to live a traditional life to do it?
No, I believe I can have kids.
with a woman without marrying her, I believe I can be a good father while still fucking something else. I really believe I can. That's what I'm going to do.
I don't think it's going to affect my, my child. My child's not going to fucking know what I'm doing. I don't think it's going to affect it. I'm not going to change my life. I'm black.
It's true. It's true, bro. I'm not going to change. I love screaming. People try and use that again. People try to use it against me and say, well, when you want, you're never going to have kids.
They have this mindset.
I can never have kids.
I, my lifestyle, I could easily have kids with my lifestyle.
I could have kids if I wanted to.
I won't do this.
It'll be one mother, but I could have kids with five different mothers if I want to and just run around.
And because I live in Eastern Europe as well.
So there's no such thing as none of this divorce shit.
None of this alimony shit.
None of it can come after me.
I can do whatever the fuck I want.
So I'm absolutely going to have kids.
I think it's natural to do it.
And Dan Bilzerian is going to want kids too, but he's never going to, you think he's going to give up all that pussy and go down to one girl.
You think he's going to be satisfied with one girl after the life he's lived?
I know even after the life I've lived, I can't be satisfied with one girl.
I know there's always, it doesn't matter how beautiful she is, as soon as she's a brunette, I'm going to want a blonde one day.
That's just how it is.
It's the instinct, the predator instinct of it.
It's just normal, you know?
So yeah, Dan, I have nothing against Dan.
I think we teach very different things because I don't think he really Teach his game.
He's not really a teacher.
What do you learn from Dan?
Be rich as fuck?
Well, duh.
Make a lot of money.
Sell weed.
Yeah, exactly.
There's nothing to learn there.
Be the most famous man on Instagram.
So Insta-hoes want a picture.
I mean, like, fucking duh.
Of course he has girls.
But we do different things.
But I have nothing against the guy.
I think he's a guy who's uncompromisingly living the life he lives.
The only thing that has me curious about Dan Yeah.
I don't know if he has these girls signing contracts.
I don't know what's going on, but the fact that he hasn't been hit with a sexual allegation case has blown my mind.
Yeah.
He's never been hit with a me too.
Isn't that crazy?
Yeah.
I was just going to say, I have a, I have a, I have a theory about that.
I when Me Too started blowing up and everybody was saying, you know, if you look at these guys who the guys who get the Me Too allegations are usually guys who try to play along with women's narratives.
So if it's a guy who's like a male feminist, as soon as you say you're a male feminist, you can pretty much start the clock because you're going to get your something's coming down the down the pipes right there.
But then you got a guy like Gene Simmons, right?
He's had one, I know, one allegation.
It went away.
It's completely gone.
Why is it that rock stars who have had like, you know, who are happily say, I've had sex with thousands of women.
Not one of those thousands of women has come back and said, Oh, he raped me or he touched me the wrong way.
You're not seeing those things because there's a difference between the kind of guy that a woman wants that attention from and the kind of guy that she doesn't want.
And I think that when, Nine times out of ten, when you look at the Me Too allegations, it's usually women who say, oh, that guy was creepy.
Why?
Because he's a beta guy who's trying to pass himself off as an alpha and he thinks he can get away with behaving as if he's Tate, right?
As if he's somebody else.
But he's not really like that.
And there's this incongruency.
Well, guess what?
Now women have the ability to sort of like Mandate that legally that if you're a beta guy, you shouldn't be trying to pretend that you're an alpha guy.
And that's why guys like you, guys like me, guys who are in the particularly in pickup artistry and that kind of stuff, guys who are in in the game teaching guys to be better.
The reason why women hate that so much is because you're teaching guys to be better.
To actually be that guy, to actually be the guy that maybe he inspires respect and arousal and attraction and might actually be that guy because it removes a degree of control away from them because they want 100% total control.
They want the guy who's the real deal.
Well, It's one thing to be the guy who's the creepy 80 percenter guy, and it's another thing to be the 20 percenter guy who actually gets laid and is deserving of respect that women want to get with, but to say, hey, Mr. Beta guy who's like, you're part of the 80 percent, you want to be part of the 20 percent?
I'll teach you how to be part of the 20 percent.
Women hate that because now you're tricking them.
You're getting past that hypergamous filter by turning those guys into better people.
That's why they hate you.
That's why they hate the red pill, really.
Yeah.
is because it reveals the game and then it teaches guys, look, here's how it's played and here's what's being done with you.
Why don't you become a better person?
I'm not trying to say be disingenuous or trick or fool anybody, actually be that person.
Here's how you can do that.
Oh no, you're gonna turn a creep into a guy that I might actually like, right?
Sorry, but that's, you know, now we, again.
It's not gonna be guys like me that do this.
It's gonna be women It's gonna be women's actions that wake up guys more than you or me or anybody else So anyways, this has been great man.
I got it.
I got a cut it.
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