This Past Weekend - Theo Von - #651 - Ella Langley

April 7, 2026 - This Past Weekend - Theo Von

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#651 - Ella Langley

Ella Langley and Theo Von dissect the mental toll of touring from 2022 to 2025, revealing how burnout clashes with fame while they celebrate Langley's new album Dandelion. They share raw anecdotes about performing at weddings, forgetting lyrics during a show with Morgan Wallen before 80,000 fans, and the emotional weight of songs like "Bottom of Your Boots." Ultimately, the conversation highlights the resilience required to navigate industry pressures while maintaining authenticity in an era of constant performance. [Automatically generated summary]
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Bus Boys Movie Tickets 00:14:33
	Uh, just a reminder that, um, tickets for Bus Boys, the movie, uh, with myself and David Spade, um, are on sale right now.
	Pre-sale tickets, you can get them.
	Um, it's in theaters April 17th, but if you get tickets now, it'll show the movie theaters that we're going to sell them, uh, or that they are selling, and then we can expand to more theaters.
	So if you know when you're going to go and, um, and you can support, that would be great.
	And no pressure if you can't.
	Uh, again, the pre-sale tickets are available, uh, busboysmovie.com.
	I'm excited.
	Thank you.
	Today's guest is one of the biggest country artists in the game right now.
	And I think for the future, she's got that power in her voice.
	She's got that, you know, it's raw but refined.
	It's delightful.
	Her new album, Dandelion, is out Friday, April 10th, wherever you stream music, and she'll be taking it on tour as well.
	I'm excited to sit down today with the one of one, Miss Ella.
	Langley.
	And it's a little warm here.
	Do y'all feel that?
	I feel great.
	Damn.
	All right.
	You want a little flow?
	A little flow.
	Can you do that?
	My little brother.
	He ordered it.
	Yeah, I know he is.
	I met him on the way in.
	You met the whole family now, pretty much.
	Hey, I have.
	I have.
	That guy was fresh off the damn boat.
	He seemed like he had some real grit to him.
	We'll talk about him.
	He could say that.
	Yeah.
	He does.
	He does.
	Yeah, he does.
	Yeah, I met y'all's granddaddy.
	He was a real He definitely seemed like he could just fix a flat tire with his tongue.
	That guy had some grit in him.
	What?
	I mean, not like in a perverted way.
	I mean, he seemed like he could just hold a car up while somebody fixed a tire.
	He does love cars.
	Does he really?
	Yeah.
	I didn't know that.
	Tesla's big Tesla guy.
	He is.
	He's like one of them future babies or whatever.
	Sure.
	Yeah.
	But I mean, he's like a guy that I don't know.
	I've pictured him more of like a garage type of guy, maybe.
	I don't know.
	Maybe I didn't.
	He said he went to see the Grateful Dead.
	I think I remember him saying.
	Yeah, he's my hippie grandpa.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	So my parents are split in two, kind of.
	Like my mom's, you met her too.
	Oh, yeah.
	I met your mom.
	Yeah, you did.
	You did me.
	Dude, I met your mom.
	I talked to her for probably almost 20 minutes.
	I know.
	I came in and you were hanging out with my mom and my grandpa.
	Yes.
	What's going on here?
	I don't know what was going on.
	Maybe it's my real family.
	Yeah, it was that Jelly Roll show.
	Laney's.
	Jelly Roll was there, though.
	Yeah.
	And you were on it too.
	I walked out there.
	You sang.
	Yeah, yeah.
	You guys did a great job.
	It was awesome.
	That was cool.
	Yeah, that was cool.
	She's so good.
	Yeah, she is just really.
	And she, like, kind of embraced.
	I think some people get to certain points in their career where they kind of embrace being this, like, thing that's bigger than them.
	And I think she, like, she's done that kind of.
	Yeah.
	She's so good at giving her all, all the time.
	Yeah.
	I feel like I have to have time away, like, recluse time.
	And if I don't get that, then I'm, like, an insane person, even more than usual, really.
	That's how I am.
	Yeah.
	But Lainey, dude, she just goes and goes and goes.
	Like, even after the.
	CMA Awards.
	We went to her bar afterwards.
	Here she is in her last outfit or camo outfit, you know, like the cape, the badass thing she had on.
	I haven't seen that.
	Bring up that camo.
	She's in a damn camo cape.
	Yeah, it was really good.
	I love that outfit.
	But she's in there shaking everyone's hand, you know, meeting everyone.
	She's just hosted the awards by herself and running around.
	Yeah, she just goes.
	Yes.
	God, she looks like a nice, beautiful duck blind, I feel like.
	Yeah.
	I mean, I bet a lot of fellas would show up to one hunt from that, I think.
	But anyway, she's also married, I think.
	But anyway, sorry, what are we talking about?
	Yeah, almost.
	Okay, let me think about where we should start from.
	Sorry.
	Did you grow up in church?
	I did.
	I don't think it was like the best church or whatever, though.
	What kind?
	What denomination?
	It was like six, I think maybe six Baptists or something.
	I'm not even sure.
	It was like six Baptists?
	It was like one of the, it was not, it was like one of them.
	It was, yeah.
	It was pretty, it was wild.
	Yeah.
	No, I grew up with Southern Baptists.
	You did?
	Yeah.
	Oh, gosh.
	Really, really small church.
	It started in a barn.
	The house that I also grew up in, my dad grew up in.
	And there's an old barn across the street.
	And it started in hay bales on that barn.
	Then they moved it to a church.
	And I mean, every Sunday and Wednesday.
	You were like, I was 18 years old.
	Yeah.
	Was it a big part of your social life, too?
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	I was homeschooled for some years.
	So pretty much all we did was go to church.
	No.
	And what state were you homeschooled in?
	Alabama?
	Yeah.
	South Alabama.
	It's Montgomery.
	That's one place I don't know if I would accept homeschooling in, to be honest.
	We didn't do much school, you know?
	Yeah.
	We just played outside.
	Oh, yeah.
	But that's sometimes the best school.
	It really was.
	Oh, fuck.
	I feel like my imagination got to live longer than most.
	Yeah.
	That's a good point because you kind of take kids and you put them in like this, it's almost like being in a laboratory at a school.
	Like you're sitting under there on those lights or whatever.
	Some kids eating paste or whatever and you're supposed to like not say something.
	Yeah.
	I got in trouble a lot.
	I went to kindergarten and first grade and I was always in trouble.
	Like, what was the crime you were guilty of?
	Talking.
	Distracting others, yeah, dude.
	Bro, how great was that in school when you got back on your thing?
	Distracting others, distracting others.
	Um, I had like a designated seat in the corner, it was like this little green metal desk, and it was facing the corner.
	I just like sit over there.
	Oh, I know.
	Distracting us.
	And what do you think you were distracting them from, probably?
	I don't know.
	Anything.
	Just talking.
	And were you trying to get people to see you, you think, or you were just, you had something to say?
	What was going on there, Ella Langley?
	I just think that school is boring for me.
	I did not like that.
	God.
	I did not like it at all the whole time.
	Naps, hated it.
	What do you mean you have to sit still for this time?
	Dude, we had this lady named Miss Robin.
	She kind of had hair like yours a little bit.
	And she would, on nap time, when Bad Rudy's asleep, she'd come over and kind of kick me a little bit.
	And she'd let me go out with her and watch her smoke cigarettes and shit.
	So, I mean, she's pretty good.
	Yeah, she's cool.
	And her husband was apparently, he had some domestic charges or whatever.
	But anyway, she let me spend time with her and watch her smoke.
	She probably needed it.
	Yeah.
	Like you're a confidant at a young age.
	Yeah, dude.
	I was just sitting there.
	That makes sense.
	Just leaning on this tire, this car.
	It's like life lessons, this lady, you know, and you're like, well, you know, what I would do is like, yeah, Carl is a piece of shit.
	You know, just helping her out, but she would smoke.
	And she had this kind of like, this kind of country, you know, sometimes when they get that feathered, real country feathered look, you know?
	Mm hmm.
	When it has a lot of feathers, yeah.
	A lot of feathers going on.
	Just a damn mallard of a woman, you know?
	Yeah.
	But I remember that.
	That was a good time, I remember.
	But yeah, when you got distracting others, it was just like, gosh.
	Yeah.
	And you were guilty of it too.
	Yeah, yeah.
	I had a bunch of eye surgeries when I was young.
	And so, for the muscles in my eyes.
	And what happened?
	You had bad eye muscles?
	Yeah.
	Sometimes I'd just be a little cross eyed.
	Uh uh.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Oh, God.
	You know, well, you know, And you were in the choir too?
	Was you just that cross eye girl just singing in the choir?
	Everywhere I was, yeah.
	Everywhere, singing my heart out.
	But then I had some surgeries, and then the teacher's like, she just is not paying attention in here.
	So homeschooled until sixth grade, and then seventh grade, went back to the same high school my dad went to, graduated with 32 kids.
	But how could you pay attention if your eyes weren't even team, like buddies or whatever?
	No, the doctor described it to me.
	I just had another one like two, maybe three years ago.
	And it's kind of brutal, honestly.
	Like, they have to take your eyeballs out.
	You're lying.
	I swear to God.
	It's crazy.
	And they go inside?
	I get it.
	Yeah, get in there.
	What's it called?
	I don't know.
	Damn.
	I just called it eye surgeries.
	Yes.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, that's fair.
	But she described it to me like a horse and carriage, you know, when you have two horses and one can't be going this way and one can't be going this way.
	That is not going to work, you know, so they got to learn to work together.
	And mine just.
	Never did.
	And now you got them trusty steeds in your face, huh?
	Yeah, sometimes they slip up, but that's just good character.
	You can just go like that.
	Yeah, yeah.
	I just look at everybody like this.
	You know what I mean?
	Yeah, get them in line.
	Keep winking a lot.
	Yeah, yeah.
	That's wild.
	Did y'all have school dances at school?
	Well, I guess you've used homeschool, but once you went to your dad's school, the same school he went to, did you guys have dances at school?
	Yeah, it was like normal school.
	Did y'all have like Sadie Hawkins and stuff like that?
	Was it kind of Southern style or what was the.
	No, it wasn't like a rich private school.
	Like this is out in the country.
	Or Zadie Hawkins, I guess.
	You had to buy a t shirt for some.
	Like the girl had to ask.
	Just like a homecoming dance?
	No, the girl had to ask the guy, and he had to get him a shirt that matched.
	You had to do matching shirts or whatever.
	You didn't have it?
	But if y'all had a dance, what did y'all do with only that many students in the class?
	We just danced.
	I don't know.
	We just danced around.
	Usually we didn't stay that long.
	We'd go to like a bonfire or something afterwards.
	But was it hard to date?
	Like in a school that small?
	Was it hard to fall?
	Like, was it, what was the energy like that?
	I mean, you've known all these people your whole life.
	You know, they're, you know, what they're driving, you know, what their parents drive.
	I mean, yeah.
	I mean, you know how it is.
	Yeah.
	That's why I really, this town and this job is very similar to a small town.
	You get used to, like, I kind of look at the fame thing like that now, you know, because when you're in a small town, like, I would hear shit about me all the time.
	I'm like, I did what?
	You know?
	Yeah.
	And I don't know.
	You just get used to that.
	So.
	Do you think not being from Nashville is better coming into this kind of place?
	Like, is it, does it, when you get here, does it get so like, is like the music scene, for lack of a better term, is it more like, is it so some type of way if you're from Nashville?
	Do you think it feels different?
	Probably.
	I mean, Earns from Nashville.
	I mean, he's been here the whole time.
	But I'm gonna, I guess I was like, does he feel like more of a pressure or more of a responsibility?
	I wonder if, I guess I just wonder if anything's different.
	Like if you come from an outside group, does it feel tougher?
	Does it feel easier, maybe?
	Or do you?
	I think people probably in your town that you're from look at you a little crazier.
	You know, I'm like 16 years old playing in weddings, 18 years old.
	You know, I went to Auburn for two years, university, but I was playing shows the whole time.
	Was that your first shows down there?
	No, actually, my first show was at this tiny little bar called Beslow's.
	It's this lake in Alabama, it's called Lake Martin, but there's all these little.
	Dude, I've been on Lake Martin.
	Yeah.
	Bring up Lake Martin, dude.
	I can't even believe you said Lake Martin.
	Yeah.
	This is the lake I grew up going to every summer.
	It's one of the actually the biggest man made lakes, I believe, in the.
	I want to say the world.
	It's not the world, but I think North America at least.
	It could be the world.
	If you're from Alabama, that is the damn world.
	Exactly.
	I remember when going to Florida would seem like it was like, God, somebody had gone to damn mall.
	Like they'd done it.
	Like if somebody came back from summertime and they'd gone to Florida, they had just done it.
	They had won the world.
	Yes.
	Or they had a shirt on said Florida or Hard Rock.
	One of those.
	Hard Rock Destin or whatever?
	Yes.
	The band was whatever they do with the little air gun.
	What is it?
	Yeah.
	That shit.
	An airbrush.
	Yeah.
	Ricky's in Destin or whatever.
	Yeah.
	Sick sunglasses.
	God.
	And just a fist jumping across the back.
	Everyone has like a tan line from the weird little band you have to wear.
	Pulls your hair the whole time.
	God.
	Lake Martin in Alabama is considered the world's largest man made lake.
	Wow.
	Upon its completion in 1926, created by the Martin Dam on the Tallapoosa River, it covers approximately 40,000 to 44,000 acres.
	Yeah, I had a girlfriend when I was a child, and we went out there, and her family had a lake house out there, and we'd go out there, do like, what's it called when you're kind of leg behind?
	Jet skis?
	No, no, when you're behind the, you're like on the board and you're like behind the.
	Oh, a knee boarding?
	Yeah, yeah.
	Leg boarding?
	Knee boarding, leg boarding, all of it.
	Yeah.
	Full body boarding.
	Foot boarding.
	Foot boarding.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Just board.
	We were just boarding.
	I mean, you'd see somebody out there on a fucking piece of plywood out there just managing that bitch along the way.
	It was beautiful out there.
	Yeah.
	That's what we did all summer.
	Yeah.
	I loved it.
	And lake life at like lake life is different, dude.
	Strange shit happens out there.
	Especially lake life in the country.
	Yeah.
	There's some real perverts out there, too.
	I will say that.
	Some damp perverts or whatever.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Rednecks everywhere.
	Yeah.
	Easter just happened.
	Did you guys do y'all do eggs for Easter?
	Deviled eggs.
	Really?
	Yeah.
	Y'all never painted eggs growing up?
	Oh, yeah, of course we did.
	Yeah.
	Dot them, painted them.
	With that little kid or whatever?
	Yeah, so fun.
	Yeah, dude, that was really nice.
	But what do you do with them afterwards?
	I don't know.
	I think your grandpa would eat them or something.
	A lot of times we would drop them at like a senior center or something.
	Cause regular people were not having like hard boiled eggs.
	That was more like a senior dessert kind of a senior delicacy, I think.
	Deviled eggs are amazing.
	Do you like them?
	I've had them once or twice, but I haven't really had them when I cared, I think.
	They had a rule at church that you could only have two deviled eggs on your first go because people would fight over them.
	They really would.
	We'd have potluck every Wednesday.
	So, like, best Southern food you can think of, like, all these old women in there just.
	I mean, cobblers and casseroles.
	Were people gambling at the, did they have that kind of thing too?
	Sometimes there's like a potluck where they gamble at a church for fun.
	No, they try not to gamble.
	That's the thing.
	Oh, yeah.
	Southern Baptists, they try.
Senior Center Deviled Eggs 00:10:24
	Dude, the church bus.
	Yeah, I don't know what was going on with it.
	I do remember the church bus, they had like, it might have been like Seventh Day, Seventh Baptist or Seventh Day Advertis, Advern.
	And then, but they would put those circus peanuts in wine and the kids could have those like during communion.
	You know, You know those orange circus peanuts that your grandparents had?
	They would put them in.
	Disgusting.
	But they're not, if you soak them in like a religious wine, they're not, they're good.
	They're pretty good when you're a kid, you know?
	I've never seen that before.
	Yeah, they would have like a wine glass and you'd get one out of there, and that was just for the children.
	Did y'all ever go to judgment houses?
	No, what was it?
	It's like, they do it around Halloween.
	Okay.
	It's like a haunted house.
	Yeah.
	For Christians, I guess.
	Ooh.
	Very scary.
	Remember, our youth group took us.
	You get in there, and it's like this car crash scene.
	And it's pretty much like convincing you that, yes, convincing you that, like, you could die the second you walk out of here.
	So you better settle up.
	You better get saved.
	You better get saved.
	And I had already been saved, but going through this affected me so bad that at the end, they were like, anyone, if you're not sure, you know, to sit down and talk.
	And so I like raised my hand, you know, and I sat down with the guy at the table.
	In the booth, and we had the whole conversation.
	I'll never forget coming home, and my dad was laying on the couch watching Titanic.
	And I said, Dad, I need to talk to you about something.
	And I was like, I got saved again tonight.
	And he, like, my dad pauses the TV.
	He's pissed off about something.
	You know what I mean?
	He's like, that's how you know.
	It's like, he said, You did what?
	I was like, Dad, I just got so scared of this thing.
	He's like, Baby, you know, immediately just like, Well, you are kind of a dumbass because, you know, that's the whole point of being saved.
	You had to get saved twice.
	Yeah, I was so scared.
	It was so scary.
	Wow.
	Yeah.
	But you sound like a little bit of that danger baby, you know?
	You've always seemed like, I mean, or like, I don't know you that, I don't know you very well, but to me, you've seemed like kind of like that danger baby.
	You know, just seemed like a dang, like a Hell's Angel that got, you know, just took over a damn Guitar City, you know, like it just, you know, or just got, went haywire in a Gibson store, you know, you just seemed like that, like, yeah, maybe you needed it two times.
	Maybe fearless, I think is what it is.
	I don't know.
	I'm not, I don't feel that.
	Yeah.
	You feel risky or you feel fearless?
	I definitely take a lot of risks.
	And I do have a lot of fears, which is funny that I think that, but I think, I don't know.
	I don't necessarily view myself as the same as I think everyone views me, which is funny.
	But yeah, I'd say fearless would be the word.
	I don't know.
	I'm just not afraid to take a chance on something, whatever it wants.
	If I want to do it, then I just know I'm going to do it.
	Even if part of me doesn't want to, I remember thinking as a kid with this music thing, that seems like a lot.
	Are we sure that's really what we want to do?
	And it's like there's this thing inside of me that's like if you don't do it, you're going to hate your life for your whole entire life.
	And so I was like, okay, but that still seems like a lot.
	But I just know when I make my mind up.
	I don't know.
	It seems like that.
	I mean, just from an outsider's perspective, you just seem like you know what's going on.
	Dang it.
	I try to act like it.
	Yeah.
	But sometimes that's part of it.
	I think sometimes that's part of it.
	It's really the whole thing.
	Yeah.
	It's like sometimes it's like pretending until the rest of you shows up and joins you.
	No one's ever lived life before.
	Not one person has lived life before.
	You know what I mean?
	It's my first attempt at life.
	As a human being, you know what I mean?
	And so it's yours and everyone else's.
	And it's funny, just I think people forget that.
	Yeah, there's never a lot of credit for that.
	It's never like, it's like, it was our first go.
	We hold people to a lot of like serious stuff and we're never like, yeah, you know what?
	It's his first time.
	It's his first time.
	Yeah.
	Maybe he needs a nap.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, dude.
	And first of all, if they had naps for adults for everybody, it would all be so nice.
	Yeah, but a nap goes one of two ways for me.
	I either wake up and I'm like, I'm so glad I got that, or I wake up and I'm hell on earth.
	Really?
	Mad, upset.
	My day's kind of real.
	I don't know.
	I don't know.
	I just, I'm like, I just wish I'd go back to sleep.
	It's one of those things you either power through or you don't.
	Well, you just sound damn volatile, Ella.
	I'm not.
	You're not?
	You sure?
	I think you're the only one saying that.
	That could be true.
	You might be right.
	You might be right.
	Maybe this is that people have a perception of you that's not exact, you know, or that, I mean, nobody's perception of somebody else is, but, or rarely, but yeah, maybe people have that perception of you.
	Did, whenever you were first doing shows, did they ever have like some fights at your shows or anything like that?
	Like, were you in some real honky tonks?
	Yeah.
	I've played every kind of show you can possibly imagine.
	Same, same.
	Like, I mean, restaurants, weird little wing sports bar things.
	Funeral?
	Oh, yeah.
	Funerals.
	So many funerals.
	Weddings.
	I started out with weddings.
	That was my first gig ever.
	Who would ever hire a 15 year old to play while you're walking down the aisle?
	I don't know.
	If they're decent, maybe, or if they're cheap.
	I don't know.
	Yeah.
	Well, 200 bucks, baby.
	Hey.
	And I was like, I am rich.
	Decent and cheap.
	That'd be my first album if I ever had one.
	But I don't know.
	It was always just.
	But did they have fights?
	Did they ever have a good.
	You ever see a fight?
	All the time.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	I've seen one guy get arrested in Tuscaloosa selling Coke right in front of me on the floor.
	And here I am just still playing, you know.
	No way.
	Yeah.
	Random.
	I played a lot before Obama.
	It's a prison, I can tell, huh?
	Yeah.
	I mean, that's crazy.
	I played one of my last gigs I played, I fell through the stage, like my last cover gigs.
	I did that for a while.
	And I did the finishing act or something.
	Was it like a finishing act?
	No, I just there.
	The stage was terrible.
	It was low.
	Oh, you just on some bad wood or something.
	Yeah, they put a rug over it, thinking if she can't see this whole thing.
	God, you know.
	Yeah.
	But yeah, play pretty much any and everything.
	And what is this?
	Oh, that's you right there?
	Oh, wow.
	Yeah, it is, I guess.
	Oh, that's at my family reunion.
	I think I was like five, four or five.
	Is that on Lake Martin?
	No, that's in Brantley, Alabama.
	That's way out in the country.
	Funny about this is when we, I remember my, when we pulled up here, my dad was like, we got the family reunion down here at the whale, a buried whale out here.
	And as a kid, I was like, a buried whale?
	Like, why would they bury a whale all the way out here?
	Yeah.
	And you know, I asked my dad about that.
	He said, I was saying, well, well.
	A buried well out there.
	Dude, yeah.
	I remember I used to have to clean out wishing wells in our area.
	They had this thing where they were trying to do, like, I guess, make money for the area or some, or like get a tourist thing.
	And so they had, they installed like a lot of wishing wells and stuff.
	And I got a job one summer cleaning them out.
	So you get down there and have to get down in them.
	Yeah.
	I've never seen that happen.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, somebody gets in there.
	And I had very small, kind of lean wrists and everything at the time and said, let me get down in there.
	And you'd bring up all the stuff and like put it on the side.
	And you got to keep some of the change, but then some of it you had to give to the city.
	But you find a lot of people, a lot of just throw a lot of junk down the recyclables, kind of a lot of to go orders, to go barbecue, kind of seem like anyway.
	You got to keep some of the change?
	Yeah.
	You just got to pick out which ones you kept?
	No, they kind of, you gave it to them and then they let you, they kind of gave you some back.
	All right.
	Well, that's kind of nice.
	That's a good gig, I guess.
	I liked it.
	Yeah, I really enjoyed it.
	And I found a sword in there, too.
	Like a, I don't want to say a.
	What?
	Yeah.
	I found like a, I think it was.
	What kind of sword?
	I think it was a dang.
	I don't want to say like a murder weapon or something, but I think it was a.
	A murder weapon sword.
	I think it was a weapon.
	It looked like it had been used.
	Can you imagine you murder someone and then your place to throw it in is a wishing well?
	Yeah, I think so.
	What?
	I wish I hadn't killed him, maybe.
	Just throw that bastard in there.
	Hit the reverse on that.
	Well, I think that's how Wish and Wells got their name.
	It's like you dropped your money in a hole and you just wish you hadn't, probably.
	Yeah, maybe.
	That's what I think, maybe.
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	Did you ever get in a fight at any of your spots or no?
	Nope.
	Anybody ever try you from the audience or anything like that?
	No.
	A lot of drunks just, you know, spilling their drinks all over the place, bumping into my microphone stand.
	I've had that happen a lot.
	Oh, that's the worst.
	When I hit the end of it, it just pops you right in the mouth.
	Oh, yeah, because you're not really expecting that.
	Well, they're just so close to the stage and you're playing college bars.
	Yeah.
	So a lot of college activity over there.
	Yeah.
	And was your family an Auburn fan growing up then?
	Yeah.
	My mom's from Michigan, like I said, so she just kind of never really cared about.
	That stuff.
	My dad was an Auburn fan, but yeah, that's kind of our football thing.
	It's Alabama or Auburn.
	Yeah.
	There's no NFL team in Alabama.
	So, yeah.
	And does your folks, your folks are still together?
	Yeah.
	Yes, they are.
	And do you think, like, what makes you laugh about that?
	It's been a wild ride, but.
	But they haven't given up.
	Nope.
	Perseverance.
	Pretty cool.
	It is really cool.
	It's really cool to see how they are now.
	Because I think there were a lot of years we were all like, y'all sure you like each other, you know?
	Yeah.
	Um, but they did, they really stick stuck it out.
	God, was there like a time when your parents were like that?
	They always say, Oh, well, we knew when this happened that she was going to be a do they have that kind of thing?
	You know, we're like, We knew when she, you know, my grandparents on my dad's side pretty much raised me at their house, I lived over there.
	They, uh, they, my grandpa could play anything by ear.
	He would, they were a lot older.
	My grandma was 45 when she had my dad.
	Oh, wow.
	Yeah.
	Um, but I was like the first girl in the family and I started to match pitch with her as a baby.
	And so she figured out I could sing and she's just like singing was her thing.
	And my grandpa could, like I said, play any instrument by ear.
	And so at their house, that's all we did.
	Like, you was a little baby bird, huh?
	Oh, yeah.
	That's all we did.
	And they were like, this is what she's going to do.
	And so they, yeah, that's my grandpa right there.
	And they just put you out on the windowsill out.
	I sang at church a lot.
	I learned how to read from singing hymnals.
	But yeah, I mean, all I did, and I really just, the whole time, like my whole family, we all just were like, this is what she's going to do.
	They just knew it the whole time.
	Was there a scary point for you, like when you kind of got a little bit spooked?
	I remember whenever I met you, one thing I do remember you saying is that I just knew that this is what I was doing, right?
	I was so determined.
	And I've talked to like Trey Lewis, I knew you and him were friends, and he mentioned that, right?
	Whenever I ran into him one night, we were watching.
	Your show at the knitting factory, maybe?
	Someplace I can't remember.
	It might have been the Bluebirds, Threes.
	I don't know.
	I'm terrible at remembering these things.
	It was a musical place.
	And he said she's just always been so determined, right?
	Was there a part though when you, like, even your own determination came up against, like, this just feels like it's going to be tougher than I thought, or I don't know if this is the way, or did it never get to that point for you?
	I think I always knew it was going to be tough.
	I mean, how many people move to this town in a day to do this job?
	I don't know.
	There's just, it's scary all the time because I love it.
Daydreaming the Drive Home 00:15:51
	It's truly a part of who I am.
	Like my whole life, I've done it and wanted to do it and thought about it every day, like daydreamed every time I'm in the car.
	I mean, hours and hours alone driving from gigs.
	Like dreaming about what just doing this?
	Just doing this, literally doing what I'm doing, like playing on stages and writing songs and getting to.
	Do this craft for a living, you know?
	And I just feel like not everything always works out for me in my life.
	And so I like to leave very little room for error, you know?
	And so I think just keeping my head down, and I'm definitely my toughest critic.
	You know, like when I watch something, I'm never like, oh, yeah, I crushed that.
	Never, ever, very rarely do I walk off stage and I'm like, I was amazing out there.
	I'm always just like, dude, I was, what was that shit that I just said?
	That was so, what was the fuck is wrong with me?
	Like, why would I say that?
	Well, it must be crazy because you seem like such a loot, like, kind of like, Almost say you'll say whatever you kind of save your.
	I do, that's the thing.
	And then to be such a tough critic of that person is a lot of extra stress, it feels like.
	Yeah, yeah, I'm getting better at it for sure.
	Yeah, it's weird.
	Um, but I'm sure you understand this like looking at yourself through the eyes of others, like no one should know this many thoughts about themselves.
	Like when everyone's like, What superpower do you want?
	I've never understood when people were like, I want to be able to read minds.
	Like, fuck that, I do not want to know what somebody's thinking.
	Because half these people, I wouldn't either, dude, especially if you're at like.
	Someplace and everybody's just a damn pervert or something, you know.
	Oh, yeah, no way, man.
	No, even if you're at like, even if you're just at a dang, um, uh, golden corral, no matter where you are, everybody, you're just like, I bet you would read mine.
	You'd be like, my dad loves a golden corral or a shonies, dude.
	My stepdad, he was in one of the wars, and um, one of them, he would, dude, after they would go to like the golden corral, whatever it was, like Chinese corral or something, or like, um, the yellow bin or whatever it was called, uh.
	He would sit, he would sit my mom in the car and then he would go back in and apologize for fighting these who we thought were like the same ethnicity people when he was in like Iwo Jima or something like that.
	He'd go back in and apologize every time.
	Yeah.
	He would go back in and just kind of say, you know, give his peace, you know.
	And it was like this moment that he kind of had, you know, where, and I think it's probably like that for some people.
	That's like they probably went and fought in a war and then the only people they ever saw from that culture again was that like a, if a small restaurant popped up in their town 40 years later.
	That's got to be crazy, yeah.
	They all, I don't know, I can't imagine that.
	Yeah, they're interested in that.
	That's one of my favorite things to read about is historical fiction.
	Yeah, you watch ever any of those war movies?
	Yeah, my dad loves a war movie, Jarheads.
	I don't know how many times that's been on in our living room.
	Oh, yeah, yeah, dude.
	My uncle even has the soundtrack to Jarheads.
	I'm like, who has the soundtrack to this on CD or what?
	I think it might be.
	He said it was Blu ray.
	He went, he went like, he went all in on Blu ray, yeah, and he lost a lot, yeah.
	Um.
	But yeah, dude, I like some of those war movies.
	I think because it just makes you feel something, you know?
	Yeah, feels like you're learning a little.
	Feels like you're learning a little, but also, yeah.
	And it makes you feel something.
	I like something if there's a little bit of loss in something, I like that shit.
	Yeah, it keeps your attention going.
	I like something that's got a little bit of loss in it.
	Some of your music, and probably a decent amount of it, to me, seems like it's about kind of like.
	Like wanting love or hoping for love, but not like kind of being able to make it work.
	Or, I'm trying to think what I'm trying to say.
	I think you're doing great.
	That was a good question so far.
	They are?
	Yeah.
	Thanks, dude.
	Yeah, I think I just get.
	Sometimes I get worried or not.
	I don't know.
	I mean, I get nervous.
	I was so nervous before I came in here today.
	Were you?
	So nervous.
	Yes.
	Why?
	What do you mean you're the most confident person there is?
	I don't know.
	I, well, You are, you know?
	Well, I mean, you got to put on the suit.
	That's true.
	And the rest you'll show up.
	That's something that I told you I learned in Southern Baptist in a small town is you learn to put on a face a little bit.
	You know what I mean?
	You can't let everyone know everything that's going on all the time.
	But also, it's like I run out of the ability to do that.
	So we get burnt out of it.
	Yeah.
	And I just, that's been something I've had to work really hard on is the mental of this game.
	And I knew the whole time that would be the toughest thing for me.
	Really?
	Yeah.
	Well, you can't pin yourself to the way somebody else operates.
	That's something that I've done over the years.
	Like, if they can do it, I can do it.
	I'm not the same person as them, right?
	And our paths aren't the same.
	Yeah.
	And I mean, I've burned, I floored it for 200 miles when I had nothing in the tank.
	Well, I think it's because you are similar in the way where you're like, you kind of fly through life by the seat of your pants.
	You know what I mean?
	And it's like you're just following your gut on what you should do with your life.
	And instead of like, You know, if you go to school to be a doctor, like, you know, you do this many years of school to go and you're going to do this and this.
	Like, we have no idea how this is going to happen.
	Every single day is different.
	Every single day, something could happen that could change our lives for the best or the worst.
	And you just never know.
	Yeah.
	And so I think, like, you learn this skill to, you know, watch others in the way where you learn, you know.
	And I think in the beginning, it pushed me.
	I would always like compare my work ethic to Laney, who was a great one for me, you know.
	Yeah.
	But I don't know how she's superhuman.
	I don't know how she does what she does.
	But yeah, I'm different than that.
	You know, like I have to go be in my house and recharge, rest, take time.
	Same.
	I got to do, I mean, I'm getting dang IVs.
	I'm petting animals for peace or whatever.
	They have this.
	I need them again.
	They got a peace petting place that's out there and you go pet those horses for peace or whatever.
	I just got some horses.
	Did you?
	Yeah.
	God.
	I'm thinking about getting a Doberman.
	It's big, but.
	Yeah.
	It's nothing like that.
	He came in riding a Doberman and it was big enough to do that.
	He found Clifford, but he's a Doberman this time.
	And Ernest is on the other one, dude.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	But he's actually on a Clifford.
	Yeah.
	And he's dressed up.
	He has his grill in for sure.
	There's like a hundred shades of Ernest.
	That's the crazy.
	And there's nobody who has like, is such a chameleon, I think, in humanity as Ernest.
	You know?
	What a guy.
	Oh, my question.
	So I feel like a lot of your songs are about like wanting to like find a love or connect with love, but also like about like wanting independence, you know?
	Do you feel like you have like commitment issues when it comes to that kind of stuff?
	Or do you feel like some of your songs stem from that sort of thing?
	Or like, do you find like a common like root for some of your purpose in your music?
	You know, I think that's the thing that.
	Sometimes people think about too much, honestly, where it's like, what is the purpose to everything?
	What is the finished product?
	I don't know.
	I'm only 26.
	Like, yeah.
	It's like, I'm just writing about, I'm not going in the room thinking, okay, I need an up tempo song today and I need it to be perfect for radio or I need to write this type of acoustic thing, you know?
	Like, I'm going in there and just writing songs, like whatever comes out that day comes out, you know?
	And I'm really big on not forcing.
	Not forcing, you know, just if I feel like I'm in there and I'm not having fun, I'm like, why are we doing this?
	I somehow got to do the job I've always wanted to do.
	No way I'm not going to let it be fun when we're sitting in here writing these songs, you know?
	So, yeah, I don't know.
	Just sometimes like I'll have a title that I really want to write, or someone in the room will say something, and then it's just like, if all of you click on that title, like you got to chase it.
	So, yeah, I mean, and obviously, I mean, me being 26 and not married, like, I've been dating, you know.
	I've been trying to figure that portion of my life out too.
	Yeah.
	Which is complicated when you have pretty much given your everything to this one thing, you know.
	Oh, yeah.
	I mean, that's, yeah.
	I can relate to that.
	I spent so much time working that, yeah, it's like this was my first love.
	I liked work the most.
	And because work was reliable, it's like I knew what I got in, what I put into this, I'm going to get out of this.
	Exactly.
	One way or the other, and I'll know if it's fair or not.
	I'll know if it's a fair amount because I'll know how much I put in.
	That part of myself I can't lie to.
	So it's like, I'll know, and it's an even.
	It'll be even.
	It may not be exactly what I want, but it'll be fair.
	But you know, you gave it your all.
	Yes.
	And to me, I know, and so I know I will expect a certain return.
	And there's not somebody else there that, like, when it's a human, for me, it's like, that's just too.
	It's like whenever you first learn to ride that bike and you're doing that or whatever.
	You know what I'm saying?
	And then you forget that, like, you're turning the handlebars like this.
	You think they're the pedals and you just.
	If this starts happening, you're going down.
	You're going down.
	That's the scariest feeling ever.
	The worst.
	Yeah.
	Oh, so many scars from asphalt.
	And then you hit the neighbor's gate or whatever and somebody just called you like a queer yell, something like that or something.
	You know?
	That's the worst.
	I hate when that needs to happen.
	Yeah.
	And it's your dad driving by you.
	It's definitely your dad.
	It would definitely be my dad.
	And you haven't even seen him in like two years, and you're like, this is how he shows up.
	Yeah.
	But yeah, that's something I think about knowing what you're going to, like, what you put in is what you're going to get out.
	Do you feel like, because now you've kind of hit this level of popularity that's a little bit different, and that's kind of scary, right?
	Yeah.
	I mean, it's cool.
	There's a lot of great things.
	But that, to me, that feels interesting because you kind of like, You almost can't put it back in the tube in a way.
	It's like, you know, like you can't, like, once you kind of cross over a certain threshold of like people knowing you, you kind of can't, like, you know, your life can change and maybe, you know, people come and go in popularity, but you kind of can't go back to not being someone that was known.
	I think that's another one of the hardest parts for me.
	And it's, I think it's just people treating you differently.
	Yeah.
	I just, it's weird when somebody comes up and they're just like, it makes sense to me because if I were to see Stevie Nicks in the grocery store, like I would be a little like, you know, yeah.
	But it's weird when it's yourself, you know, like someone's coming up to you and they're like, oh my God, I'm going to throw up on your shoes.
	And you're like, whoa, like I am so weird, like just, you know, immediately try to like level myself in a way.
	But yeah, that's an odd part.
	But it is cool.
	I'm starting to, I'm getting past the stage of like, What, like, because it was so in the beginning, so new, like, it was weird when somebody knew who I was, or when I'm sitting at the table out to eat with friends or family, and somebody's like, Hey, can I get seven selfies with you?
	And I'm like, Have like a half a meatball in my mouth.
	I'm like, Bro, that's crazy.
	Um, or you haven't even washed up, or you just don't even feel like a selfie in the bathroom.
	Have you ever had one to ask you, Is someone in the bathroom?
	You're like, Bro, no, no.
	And then if you say no, I've had a girl, I was making my whole band do this ab workout routine, we were in P Fitness somewhere around the world, and uh.
	This girl comes up to me mid crunch.
	She's like, Can I have a picture?
	And then I like it was in the beginning, and now I would be like, Probably not right now.
	Yeah, I'll sign whatever you know what I mean.
	Just pick better time.
	But oh, yeah, in the beginning, you'll give it all, you'll give absolutely.
	But then I get up to take the picture with her, and she's just like, No, no, I just want to take one of you.
	You ever get that when they're like, Want to take one of you and stay with you?
	And you're like, No, no, no, if I'm sweaty in this, you are.
	Yeah, so you're just what some kind of pervert or whatever, or you're just making a time capsule or something.
	You're just capturing me to keep me.
	No, I just want to take one of you.
	Yeah, I'm not doing all that.
	What's your pose if someone takes one of you?
	I'll tell you a funny story.
	I can't.
	Oh, I'll tell them no.
	If somebody's like, I just want to take one of you.
	Yeah, you're like, no.
	I'm like, you get over here, you little urch, and you're getting in this bitch with me.
	If I have to stand here and look like shit, you do too.
	That's what I said.
	Yeah.
	Dude, a couple, probably like a year and a half ago, I started to have, like, because we would do meet and greets after every show.
	And maybe some of this sounds like kind of woe is me.
	Like popularity talk.
	And I'm not meaning that.
	I'm grateful that people come out to shows.
	And I've been to a couple of your shows, and I'm excited to go to more of them.
	I'm excited to come to that one in Tuscaloosa where you and Morgan are playing together.
	And then I know your own tour and your new album that's going to come out.
	But I couldn't smile anymore.
	The muscles in my mouth.
	Oh, yes.
	It started doing that fidget thing.
	Yes.
	And then it got to the point where.
	I just didn't even believe it anymore.
	My mouth had just, there was some disconnection between like my true feelings and a smile because these were all like kind of put on smiles and some of them are real, but you know, you're just like, smile, you know, just smile, cheese, that type of thing.
	So I had to start doing this.
	So, in all my pictures, I was like, I have to make another face.
	And this on me, like, it looks a little too like people are going to get scared, or the kids are going to kind of be scared a little bit.
	So, I think that's kind of nice.
	So, I'll do like, you know, like just anything.
	Yeah, because this just started.
	Yeah, that, that.
	See?
	Yeah.
	But just the closed mouth smile was nice.
	Well, no, no.
	That was different.
	You didn't do it the same that time.
	Let me try one more time.
	Yeah.
	Well, no.
	Kind of close.
	Try one more time, but don't squint your lips so much.
	Let them loose.
	Leave them loose a little.
	Start from the sign that you came in.
	Okay.
	Oh, what's happening?
	Nothing much.
	Yeah, that right there.
	Thank you.
	Take a picture of that.
	Practice.
	You're an artist.
	You're a conductor.
	Well, thank you.
	She's a conductor.
	Yeah, I remember the first time I saw, I was like, because I didn't know, like, as your popularity really, I guess, the first time that I met you.
	And I remember I said something like, man, Lainey really does such a great job of controlling the stage because I was kind of complimenting her because she really does.
	And you were, I can't remember what you said, but it was something like, I don't know if I said something like, No, you were like, you should try running around the stage like that or something.
	Oh, yeah.
	Yeah.
	And I was like, first of all, you ain't never been to a show.
	So, you know, I know to show up and be judgmental like that.
	Yeah.
	And then that, yeah.
	I think I was just nervous.
	I kind of move around a little bit.
	Well, I've thought about that moment multiple times because I'm like, should I move around more?
	Like, is that, like, has you seen things that I should do?
	Like, no, I thought you should come to rehearsals and let me know.
	I think I was just nervous and I probably didn't know what to say.
	And it was a woman until I was just trying to say something.
	And maybe it wasn't, yeah, I just didn't do the best supportive job, probably.
	Well, it panned out.
	But yeah, I've seen it since, and I'm not even going to weigh in anymore.
	You're obviously.
	No, I really like it.
Burnout in a Boom Moment 00:02:20
	No, it really made me think extra hard about that.
	I was like, damn, the only thing is I'm lazy on stage.
	No, I didn't think lazy.
	I didn't know.
	I had no idea.
	A little lazy?
	No.
	I just.
	I can't.
	She runs.
	I don't know how she does it.
	She does the whole spin thing.
	Now she does a lot.
	I told you she is.
	She does a whole like fantasy.
	She almost like that.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	She does that spin thing.
	Oh, yeah.
	I'll just fall down.
	100%.
	Just swanging that donkey around.
	I'm like, what is even going on out here?
	Yeah.
	She has got it.
	Yeah, that's probably what it is.
	I ain't got no balance like that.
	You know what I mean?
	I ain't evened out, you know.
	She's got them ballast tanks on her.
	She's like set up and go.
	Oh, she's a pontoon.
	I'll tell you that.
	She's locked in.
	Yes, she's locked in.
	But no, what a great person to learn from and be around.
	And even just to watch like the things that she does and just to notice all those things.
	Like, how is she able to engage with people so much, you know?
	I don't know how Jelly Roll did it.
	Jelly Roll got burnt out.
	He's the same way.
	But he got burnt out.
	Yeah, I think it happens to everybody.
	It'll get you.
	Yeah, I mean, no one's actually.
	Doing it all.
	Yeah.
	I mean, everyone gets burnt out.
	Yeah.
	Did, was there a moment you kind of had to take it like a step back?
	You take a vacation?
	What do you do like for that sort of thing?
	Have you learned to incorporate that into things?
	Because you're already back out here.
	You're going to go on tour again.
	Yeah, I don't, I'm still figuring it out.
	I think my team's figuring out a little better how to schedule in the time that's needed.
	But when you're in this boom moment, it's hard to say no.
	I mean, you're saying no to stuff that I'm like, I do kind of want to do that, you know, but it's like, you know, I'm thinking to things six months down the road.
	I'm like, I'll be able to do that.
	And then I get there, I'm like, oh my gosh, like I'm dying.
	Why did I, oh, I want to do that?
	What am I doing in this lemonade drink?
	Yeah, but then I'm like, if I turn it down, you know, sometimes I'm like, come on, you can't, what's wrong with you?
	Why you can't do that?
	You're going to be, Some people would kill to be playing that, you know, and then I had that whole thing.
	So, last year, it just, like I said, I think the mental game for me is definitely the hardest part of this job.
	Like, I can do the gigs, I can do the shows, I can do that.
	And I don't know, the burnout, I guess.
	Like thinking you can work through it, I'll fight through it, I'll figure it out.
Waffle House Rehab Vibes 00:15:03
	Yeah.
	And I mean, Lord, we toured pretty much minus a couple weeks here and there from 2022 to 2025.
	You know, and I mean, hot and heavy, most of that was in a van, you know, and then one bus, and we're all packed on there.
	And it was still like, it just happened so fast.
	So it's like, we're still doing these things, but these things are happening.
	And so everyone from the outside is like, man, that's pretty nice.
	And you're like, well, you know, we're still getting there and we're still doing our best.
	Yeah.
	And a van, people don't get even enough credit for even being in a damn van.
	Somebody asked me the other day, they're like, do you miss that?
	I'm like, hell no, I don't miss that.
	I think people should get a tax credit for being in a damn van, dude.
	I see.
	I see.
	If I see a van pull up, any van, and somebody gets out of the back of it, I start clapping immediately.
	Immediately.
	I don't care what they're doing.
	I don't care if they are very religious and the side door is broken or whatever, or they are just a big family.
	I always wondered what people thought we were traveling around when they'd see us get out at a gas station and it was just like me, my photographer, Kaylee, and a whole bunch of tattooed guys just crawling out of a van looking disheveled, smelling like.
	Doritos, probably.
	Oh, yeah.
	And whiskey.
	Doritos are good at over 50 miles an hour in a day.
	Yeah, I lived off some gas station food for years.
	Taquitos from the gas station.
	They're good.
	They're good.
	In the moment.
	Yeah.
	But some of my problem is if you, I'll get a bag and then I'll go get them in the middle of the night and get more of them.
	Yeah.
	You ever get a crunchy one where it just ruined the whole thing?
	It's like.
	Uh-uh.
	The taquitos?
	Yeah.
	I like them.
	Or a hot dog.
	Oh, hot dogs are good, but they're just.
	Sometimes they don't honestly tell you how long they've been on that twirler out there on the little riverboat thing.
	They just put them back out there every so often.
	What is that?
	They put a bunch of hair curlers together and started just grilling them bitches.
	Who knows what kind of meat is really in there?
	There's no fucking meat in there.
	What are you talking about?
	Dude, this is some.
	This ain't no meat.
	You don't wonder.
	I have a lady that's like doing all my health stuff.
	You don't think so?
	The buffalo chicken, you don't think that is?
	I bet there ain't a half percent of meat in there, baby.
	This is meatless.
	They should just taste something warm on the outside of it.
	But yeah, when you get those Hunt Brothers pizzas, those are the same.
	Oh, the breakfast one?
	Fire.
	That's what I grew up on.
	On Hunt Brothers?
	Yeah.
	I think it's Hunt Brothers.
	Is there an S at the end of it?
	Was there more than one?
	There you go, girl.
	Hunt Brothers.
	I've been saying it wrong the whole time.
	Hunt Brothers.
	But that's what it is.
	That's kind of Southern stuff.
	That's how they say it.
	Have you seen the Country Hoodlums people?
	Have you seen those Instagram?
	Pull them up, dude, if you can.
	I put them on a page the other day.
	The what?
	On my links page.
	This is the kind of place I grew up.
	I'll show you right here.
	Oh, I can't wait to see this.
	This is like our street.
	What you doing, Christy?
	I'm about to burn his shit.
	I need something.
	I'm about to burn his shit.
	About me, I'm about to face it live.
	I'm about to hear shit when he was calling me five minutes later.
	I'm about to come get him.
	Well, Christy, he loves, he loves, Glass loves those golf clubs.
	Glass loved those golf clubs.
	This is the kind of shit was going on on our street.
	No, no, you for real?
	No.
	If you know what he did, probably.
	Oh, yeah.
	No.
	He done fooled around and he about to find out.
	That's the kind of shit we need more of, I think.
	But yeah, this is just the kind of place.
	Have you ever seen them country hoodlums?
	Oh, man.
	This is like a whole thing?
	They have probably like two or three hundred clips.
	Now they put up clips every day and it's just like people living their lives.
	Oh, oh.
	Like it's real life people.
	It's not like.
	And this is the one Earn.
	People always say this guy or him and Earn seem like each other.
	No, go hit that top left one.
	Keep them coming.
	Ms. Janet.
	Ms. Janet.
	Let's see it.
	Ms. Janet.
	He just got baptized, actually.
	Let's do it.
	Hey, Jen.
	And I'll say this the women are the people, they hold it together in this group.
	Mama.
	Usually are.
	Yeah.
	But that's kind of, I feel like that's kind of enough, man.
	You know, about four years ago, I was jogging somewhere.
	And it was a pretty good area.
	It was all right.
	I don't know.
	Yeah, there were some couple halfway houses, but I was going for a jog.
	And I saw a snail out there.
	And he was trying his best, but you know, they don't even have feet, but they're still going forward.
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	I moved him probably 19 inches, brother.
	Saved him a month of travel.
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	Do you, um, did y'all have like a fate, like a most popular restaurant in your town growing up?
	Not really.
	I mean, a lot of chains, like I said, the Shonies, my dad loves a, like a, what do you call it?
	A buffet.
	Oh, yeah.
	Oh, any buffet, the soft serve ice cream, you got to get it at the end.
	At the end.
	How big can you make your own ice cream cone?
	Make it tall, baby.
	Make it long.
	You like it long?
	Shonies was something else, dude.
	And they would give away these stuffed animals up front.
	And the sewing on them was real bad.
	By the time you got them bitches to the car, they was more of a, they looked, they was starting to give out a little.
	Did you go to IHOP?
	We went to a hot butt.
	Waffle House?
	We went to Waffle House.
	Yeah, dude.
	At our Waffle House, they had like, it was like, our town was like at the end of like the longest bridge in the world for a while anyway.
	And then they built a different one, but then that one got torn down.
	And so we were back.
	Anyway, they had a, they had a, so the people that would get DUIs on there at night or DWIs at night, the police officers would just drop them off at the Waffle House.
	They wouldn't arrest them.
	They'd just take them down there and drop them off.
	Yeah, it was really cool.
	I'm just like, hey, stay here and sober up.
	So, when you was a kid, you was running around.
	You could just pop in there and just hang.
	You'd be hanging out with the drunks and eating with all these cool drunks and shit.
	I think that's a lot of Waffle House's late at night.
	Yeah.
	Ours was too.
	It's kind of like a little mini rehab.
	I'm just fucking just sitting outside in one of the cooks, you know?
	Oh, definitely.
	I'll be in, baby.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Or, dude, the best is the white guy that can't even blink his eyes.
	So he's so geeked up and he's just fucking making eggs, boy.
	Dude, so many, so many things.
	Oh, he'll just rip an omelet out of a chicken's ass.
	That dude's right there.
	And they're all yelling at him.
	Yes.
	The best are the fights in there when they start fighting.
	It's so closed environment in there when they do the fights.
	I don't like being in the cage.
	They do the fights.
	So you've seen them?
	Yeah.
	It's like, I don't like being in the cage.
	I want to be outside of the cage.
	If they lock the door.
	Oh, you sit on this side of the bar and they are on that side.
	Oh, that's, yeah.
	Oh, you mean the employees fighting?
	Yeah.
	I don't like that.
	Not just random ones.
	I like to go to Waffle House and watch fights.
	Yeah.
	Well, dude, the one in Baton Rouge used to do a look up Valentine's Day Waffle House Baton Rouge.
	They did a special thing.
	Did they do it at other ones you know about?
	Yeah.
	I like the decorations.
	Yeah, they would decorate it and you could make a reservation.
	Yes, where they put like a white tablecloth.
	Yes.
	That?
	It's romantic.
	I would really like that.
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	I like that.
	Heart shaped hash browns.
	You kidding me?
	You know they have that?
	Steak and eggs with extra sides to share.
	I think I've been to Waffle House on New Year's Day for the past like five years.
	Oh, God.
	Beef and six.
	Yeah?
	Yeah.
	That's beautiful.
	They used to have like a badge or like a recurring partner system.
	Chocolate pie slices and strawberry milkshakes served as a simple date night drink.
	A steak from a Waffle House.
	Hell yeah.
	Just doing it up.
	Dude, I met a woman off the internet once and.
	She was from another country.
	She'd never been to a Waffle House.
	And I took her to one and she loved it.
	That's one of my red flags.
	If guys are like, I'm like, let's go to Waffle House early in the morning.
	And he's like, no.
	He says, no.
	Let's go to Cracker Barrel.
	I feel like Waffle House over Cracker Barrel.
	I don't know.
	Yeah.
	I don't know.
	Depends on if I want pancakes.
	I don't know.
	I don't.
	A lot of these pancakes these days are too hot.
	They're too fluffy and fat for me.
	I like that bitch.
	Like, it's fucked.
	Somebody already.
	Tried to eat it and it said, Hell no, I like that thing.
	It's tough.
	I like what does that look like?
	Just a pancake.
	I like that flat, yeah, flat, kind of burnt.
	Yeah, I don't like that big, fluffy.
	It looks like part of a piece of like an actual part of a layer of flap.
	I think that's a flapjack.
	Yeah, it could be.
	What is a flapjack?
	Bring it up because yeah, people are wandering around.
	People are eating hot.
	What is the difference between pancake and flapjack?
	People were eating all of them.
	Ella, I don't know.
	A British flapjack is a simple, chewy, and only baked bar made by melting butter.
	No, don't even pull up with that.
	I'll burn your damn golf clubs if you pull that shit up again.
	It's not that bar thing.
	No, it's not.
	It is a.
	I like that.
	Now, some people came out with something.
	Here we go.
	A flapjack is a baked oat bar.
	This isn't it, man.
	Yeah, I think it is the oat bar.
	Well, then I've been getting something else.
	I call it a flapjack.
	I like that thing that's real, just kind of a little more flimsy, kind of.
	Looks like it'll fucking slap your ass if you're walking by.
	You know what I'm talking about?
	It would make the sound.
	Yeah.
	Finally, your brother made a sound, so he's having a good time.
	And I'll tell you something, I don't love a ton of syrup.
	I like a fair amount, but I don't like too much.
	I love it.
	You do?
	Do you like condiments and stuff like that?
	Are you a condiment person?
	Sauce.
	Yeah.
	Anything.
	I love it.
	You ever had that Zit Zaki sauce?
	Bring it up.
	Yeah.
	You've had it?
	Zach sauce?
	No, Zit Zaki.
	Bring it up.
	No.
	Zit Zaki.
	I never heard of that.
	Zit.
	Tzaki?
	Don't even fucking tell me that's how y'all spell it.
	Raw, that's.
	Tzaki.
	What did you just say?
	Zachariah sauce?
	I said Leviticus 4 13.
	That's what I said, dude.
	I said Copernicus 12 16.
	Yeah, I've had that sauce before.
	Yeah, people say it again.
	Zatziki.
	I want that Zatziki, baby.
	Yeah.
	People love that Zatziki.
	Now, what I will say is this I do like it.
	How do you prefer it?
	Zatziki?
	Yeah.
	Just straight up in the little.
	With a little.
	Bread thing, or oh, I'll take it with a pita usually, as I'll have it, but I'll have a look.
	I mean, I've never taken one and drinking one or whatever.
	Like, my sister used to steal all those little coffee creamers from the freaking place my stepdad would take us, and she would drink them in her bed at night.
	All those little, dude, the little ones, the hazelnut with that cannot be good.
	That sleepy little bitch, that sleepy little bitch would finish off six of those and wonder why she's having nightmares because you're drinking damn stolen milk.
	Okay, I don't understand how those stay good out.
	For so long, I don't ever understand.
	And why can condiments stay on the tables at restaurants for so long, but they can't at the house?
	Yep.
	I got a lot of questions.
	But no, they used to put them, they used to put the creamers on a thing of ice in some places that I think still ever see.
	They still do, yeah.
	But some of them, those hazelnut ones, those are bad for you.
	They'll just give it to you in a coffee mug.
	It's already there.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	It was like pile them in a coffee mug and hand it to you.
	Oh, yeah.
	Somebody was just stacking them in like that.
	But my sister would have six or 11 of them bitches in there complaining she's got an upset stomach.
	Bitch, of course you do.
	She's probably going to have the upset stomach for the rest of her life due to that.
	Yeah.
	And she already had a damn liver transplant.
	You ain't getting nothing else.
	Mom got her that when we were kids.
	What did you get?
	I didn't get shit, dude.
	I remember I got roller skates that were way too big for me.
	What were you like?
	What did you do?
	Me?
	I was pretty good, I guess.
	I don't know.
	I was kind of a kid.
	I like to do my own thing.
	I just like to hitchhike and just have angry thoughts, I think, a lot as a kid.
	Yeah.
	What did you do?
	Did you like to play sports?
	Yeah, I played basketball.
	What did I like to do?
	I like to.
	Be on my bike when I was a kid.
	My dad was super old, so we were always like messing with him and shit.
	My dad was like, my dad was 70 when I was born, so he was an old guy.
	Yeah, he was old.
	And my brother used to come in the room.
	I've told this before.
	My brother would come in the room and he'd be like, Dad's dead.
	And I'd be like, What?
	He'd be like, Yep, go in there.
	Go in there.
	He's dead.
	And I'd go in there and he wouldn't be dead.
	Yeah.
	How many times did that happen?
	Oh, well, then this is how weird it started to flip after a while because he'd be like, Dad's dead.
	And I'd be like, he freaking better be dead.
	Or you're dead.
	Or I'm going to whip your ass.
	Yeah.
	So it got to the point where you're like, hope, like if dad's alive, somebody's getting their ass beat.
	So, which is a crazy concept.
	You have to go in there and check one more time.
	Yeah, when your dad is barely alive.
	So, you just go in there kind of pissed off like this.
	There's three pictures.
	I mean, look at the top.
	Look, top four actually are all me.
	Zoom in on all of those.
	God, that looks good.
	That one's me.
Dead Dad Jokes and Flips 00:04:28
	No, it ain't.
	Yep.
	No, it's not.
	Well, is it really?
	We had some tough years.
	Yeah.
	I mean, obviously, bring that kid back up.
	Dude, that is not you.
	We had some damn tough years.
	What's going on with that little thing on the side?
	Oh, honey, that's a fade, girl.
	That's a one into a 19.
	Haven't you ever seen that cut?
	That's crazy.
	It's like a bowl cut with like a.
	A weird shaped bowl.
	That's a Christian cut right there.
	Yeah.
	Who cut your hair growing up, Ella Langley?
	All kinds of people.
	I have a bad tendency to cut my own hair.
	Yep.
	Yeah.
	I like that best.
	I really, there's something about it.
	Why do you do that and why have you enjoyed that?
	I don't know.
	Because it doesn't always go, most of the time, it goes bad.
	That's how I got banged in the first place.
	I stopped, I was wearing a cowboy hat for a while.
	And then I took it off because it was windy one show and it was pissing me off.
	And I decided, you know what, I'm going to take it off.
	And I liked how my bangs were kind of around my face.
	And like 20 minutes before I walked out on stage, I decided to cut my fringe a little bit.
	And it was so bad.
	There was like one piece right here.
	And I was shooting the cover art for my first record that next week.
	And Kaylee was like, I hate you.
	At least she was honest with you.
	I had to get, I just told her, full send it with the bangs.
	Yep.
	And now you're in.
	I don't think I can ever change it.
	Yeah, you love it that much, huh?
	It changed my life a little bit.
	Really?
	Yeah, I would say.
	I mean, I don't know.
	The bang thing is like, I think it's the music.
	Well, yeah.
	But yeah, I mean, I think.
	Well, maybe a little bit the music, but mainly the bangs.
	The bangs are nice.
	You know what's funny is there's a, I think there's, there's a, like a, what's it called?
	Like a big poster board in the air or whatever?
	I don't know what you're referencing right now.
	It looks crazy.
	Billboard.
	There's like a billboard over on Hillsborough Pike, and I thought it was you on it.
	I think I know what board you're talking about.
	Dude, here's a funny thing.
	I'd go by it sometimes and I'd always just rattle off something or sing a couple of your lyrics to it.
	And then somebody told me it's not you.
	It's not.
	But I know what you're talking about.
	And what do you mean you'd sing a couple of lyrics to it?
	I would just rattle off something.
	You know, I was like, oh, they should be like, what's up?
	Yeah, there's Ella just seeing how she's doing.
	Oh, she's still high and mighty up on that billboard up there.
	And I think it's for an earring company.
	I said with her fancy earrings or whatever.
	Big earrings, too.
	I mean, this lady had damn bird cages hanging off her head over there.
	Nope, wasn't me.
	It wasn't you, though.
	Wish it was.
	God.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, I'd have gotten to spend more time with you.
	So, me too.
	It would have been nice, I think.
	At school, sometimes we ask about Valentine's Day.
	Did you have a thing at school where you had Valentines at school, or was y'all school too small to even give a Valentine because other people's feelings could really get hurt in that sort of closed environment?
	No, we still had Valentine's Day.
	God.
	Yeah, we still did.
	It did.
	Every feelings did get hurt.
	Feelings did get hurt.
	If there's nine kids in my class and there's Valentine's Day, dude, I couldn't cut that.
	That was, I'll never forget this kid.
	He was in our class.
	His name was Freddie.
	And he brought in this little bear and he gave it to me.
	And he's like, for you to have this bear, you got to be my girlfriend.
	I was like, sorry, buddy.
	Can't do it.
	I'm a horse.
	And then he gave, yeah.
	But then he went over to Shelly and gave her the bear.
	No, he didn't.
	And I was like, Hey, Freddie, come back over here.
	I will be your girlfriend.
	Oh, damn.
	Give me that bear back.
	So you saw that competition, and Ella said, I ain't losing now.
	Yeah.
	And Freddie was willing to get a woman an animal.
	Dude, I remember we had a guy by us.
	He was a taxidermist or whatever.
	And I just remember he had all these hard stuffed animals I didn't know.
	Hard ones, yeah.
	Yeah, I was like, that dude has the hardest stuffed animals ever.
	And he gave me like a squirrel because my mother said I'd love it over there all the time.
	She'd find me over there.
	And he gave me like a squirrel, and I slept with that thing.
	My mom said for like four years this big taxidermied ass squirrel.
	No, you didn't.
	With a hard tail, yeah.
	What do you mean a hard tail?
	He had it.
	Bring up a.
	Look at that bitch.
	Yeah, look at the one.
	Yeah, that's a stripper.
	I've never seen one done like that before.
	Look at the one that's a stripper right there.
	That's the one that you had for sure.
	I think, I mean, I don't know.
	I was young, but I was happy to have it.
	Yeah.
	Look at the one canoeing in its own tail.
Taxidermist Stuffed Animals 00:05:32
	That's pretty great, actually.
	Did it have a name?
	Huh?
	Did you name this one?
	Yeah, Mr. Tucker.
	So he could have been trans.
	I have no idea.
	Who knows?
	Depending on the day.
	Okay, a couple questions about your album and then your new album.
	What'd you say?
	I'll say real quick, Ella, could you pull your mic to the right just a little bit?
	Will you come help her, Trevin?
	She doesn't need any help.
	Sorry.
	That's perfect.
	This is Ella.
	Why'd you say that?
	Just because I'm thinking if there's one lady that doesn't need any help, it's probably you, I think.
	Sometimes I need help.
	You do?
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	I know.
	Sometimes I do too.
	I think that's one tough thing about like when you like kind of like when things start like, I think if you're like a person that's kind of controlling or you know, you like to have a say in everything you do, do you feel like you're that kind of person?
	Like you were, that's one thing that I love about Morgan is Morgan knows exactly what he's doing.
	He is dialed in to a T, I feel like, on what is him and what represents him.
	Yeah.
	I'm very much that way.
	I mean, every bit of what I do, I have my hand in it.
	You know, I'm co producing the record, I'm writing stuff for the music video, co directing that.
	I'm, you know, making the set list for the show and kind of creating that set.
	I literally drew out our set in my journal and it was like, gave it to the set designer and it was like, this is what I want.
	And they literally made that for me.
	So it's all you.
	So when people come to see this next door, it's all you.
	It's you.
	No, I mean, I have an incredible team.
	Right.
	But it all comes from you originally.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	And it's interesting.
	It's, um, Hard to find people that sometimes people get stingy with your art in a way.
	And it's funny, it's like a pride thing.
	And I care so much about the people that I work with, it being a collaborative experience, you know?
	And so everyone on my team, it really is that, whether it be my stylist or my makeup artist or Kaylee over here, who's my photographer and also a creative director, my management, you know?
	My band, it's kind of like I don't get to tell my band to get up there and play this dang thing lick for lick.
	I want us to get up there and.
	Have you known fun and play music, and obviously, there's a way a show should go, but I don't know.
	I just think that sometimes people put these weird perimeters around such a creative thing.
	And something that, like, I think you look like you love me did for me was like, everyone told me that song was not gonna work, you know?
	Yeah, they're all like, What?
	What do you?
	My label tried to give me this after y'all had cut it, or before, yes, after we had cut it, they were like, We really think you need to go back in and sing these verses.
	I was like, I'm not singing it, and they're like.
	You need to sing it.
	And I just fought them really hard on it.
	And they thought, do you need to go back in and sing Riley's verses?
	Is Riley the one who sings on that?
	Yeah.
	But no, like the talking part.
	You know, I was all but 22, I think, at the time.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, no, they wanted me to sing that, go back in.
	They're like, this is like going to be the worst performing song on the record.
	Nuh uh.
	Yeah.
	And so I think with that one, I mean, it was just different.
	And you knew it wasn't?
	I mean, I didn't know what it was going to do, but I believed that.
	You believed in what it was, though.
	I believed that it was different.
	I believed that it was something that made me smile and.
	I enjoyed singing it.
	And, you know, like I said, once I put my mind to something, like if I go in and cut something, it's because I believe in it.
	And it feels like you get to know you some in that song a little bit too.
	I mean, it's just there's something about when somebody's talking to you, you know, when they're talking as well.
	I think there's, yeah.
	Tells a story in a different way.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, I think so.
	Dang.
	Who's out there telling Ella Langley no?
	I don't know.
	But have there been parts you've like, like, like as things got busier, you're like learning how to be like kind of like a boss, a leader, not necessarily a boss, but like a leader?
	Yeah.
	And then those are roles that you have to step into, I think, if you want to be like exactly how you want to be.
	You know, because otherwise there's like, especially in music and Hollywood type of stuff, there's, It'll make something for you and serve it out there, you know.
	But if you want to be on top of it, it takes a lot.
	It does.
	I think that's one of the harder parts of this job and kind of what I've watched from watching other artists my whole life.
	Obviously, wanting to do this paid attention in a way like you really do have to get up and fight to do it the way you want to do it every day.
	Isn't that crazy?
	You do.
	It's exhausting and people all day.
	And the more success, the more people care about what you're doing, you know what I mean?
	In the beginning, in a label, you know, when I was first signed, it wasn't a competitive deal, you know.
	They didn't really have that much going on.
	Um, and it was more of like a banking on me type of a situation, right?
	So now you know, everyone is a little paying a little closer attention to what's happening, obviously, you know, and everyone has um an opinion, and it's like that across the board.
	And that's just because it's working and everyone wants it to stay working.
	And um, you know, you know yourself the best and your artistry.
	And like at the end of the day, I'm the one that's gonna have to do that interview, I'm the one that's gonna have to um sing that song every night, I'm the one that's gonna have to go take those pictures, I'm the one that's gonna have to work with these people, you know.
	And I think it's just constantly reminding them of that and not compromising who you are as a human being because, well, this is how it's usually done.
	I hate that phrase.
	I hate, well, this is what you would usually do.
	I was like, well, I don't give a rat's ass what you'd usually do.
	I do not want to do it like that.
	I really don't.
DJing at Bryant Denny Stadium 00:02:55
	And I'm going to stick my heels in the mud.
	Yeah, I don't even have any heels and I'm just going to put my feet in there.
	You do have heels.
	That's the bottom of your foot.
	This is, oh, yeah, you're right.
	And I'm going to put them in the mud.
	I've always, I don't want to do it how you want it.
	That's, dude, that's been the Pilot light of my entire existence.
	Oh, yeah.
	Do it like this.
	That's the worst thing you could tell me if you don't want me to do it.
	Dude, I don't want to do any.
	I never want, dude, I couldn't even, my eyes wasn't even open.
	And I was like, I ain't doing shit like you want me to.
	Yeah.
	Keep your eyes straight.
	Fuck you.
	Yeah.
	How about that?
	Bitch, I'm coming with a remix right out the gate.
	Yeah.
	That's hilarious.
	Oh, congratulations, you guys.
	Your tour with Morgan starts.
	April 18th in Tuscaloosa, Alabama, Bryant Denny Stadium.
	I know, home state.
	That's so crazy.
	It's cool.
	I think it's the first concert to be in there since like, what, 19 something?
	Bring it up.
	1970 something?
	I think Alabama was the last thing.
	Oh, hey.
	Bring it up.
	Oh, my God.
	Kaylee took that over there.
	Did she?
	God, take some of me, Kaylee.
	I need to live like that.
	I need to get a damn brooch.
	A brooch?
	I don't know.
	Sorry.
	I mean, a nice necktie.
	I'm just joking.
	I'm trying to make your brother laugh.
	The only joy I'm having is when you guys laugh.
	That's the gig, huh?
	Well, yeah, it's just nice.
	When people laugh, I feel okay.
	Yeah.
	Alabama Stadium show right there at Bryant Denny.
	When was the last one?
	That's what we're asking.
	Honestly, this guy's just looking at pictures of men online.
	That's the dang football team.
	We just want to know when was the last one.
	Just ask somebody, fucking ask, who's that Roll Tide guy?
	Oh, ask Roll Tide Willie, yeah.
	He's actually from near our hometown.
	Dude, he was in the military with my buddy's dad.
	He used to be pretty, not normal, but better.
	I'm home.
	That's where he's from.
	What?
	Yep.
	God bless him.
	The last concert held at Brian Denny Stadium was a performance by the band Alabama in 1992, which followed a series of Bama Blast concerts in the early 1980s.
	A 2008 concert with Alan Jackson was scheduled but canceled.
	Dang.
	So that's been 30, 33 years.
	Yeah, I'm pretty excited about that one.
	That's crazy.
	And we're direct support this year.
	We've really worked our way up on this tour.
	First tour, we were first of four, we did with him.
	Last year, we were second of four.
	This year, we're direct.
	Congratulations.
	Just climb your way.
	You know what I mean?
	He says, I mean, I've spoken with him about you, and he's like, she's got it.
Last Concert at Brian Denny 00:15:37
	She has it.
	He's been really cool.
	He's a unique dude, man.
	Well, you know, I mean, him and Ern and Hardy and that whole crew has just been super kind to me.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Oh, that whole group is so much fun.
	I remember right whenever I moved in town, we had a podcast studio.
	I was living over in Wedgwood, Houston.
	I just was renting a house and putting a podcast studio in.
	The guy was always stopping by and was like, You have a podcast studio in here?
	I was like, No.
	And just like, He's like, For some reason, this guy hated podcasting or whatever.
	And one day we got to have Morgan and Cayman, and we had like kind of just snuck out Hardy and Ern, and we had a blast over there.
	But that was fun.
	That was like an early episode that we had here in town.
	Yeah, those shows are going to be cool.
	It's going to be so great.
	And, oh, there was something else I was going to ask you about.
	Oh, and then you're doing Stagecoach, too.
	Yeah.
	Me and my buddy are DJing there.
	Really?
	Yeah.
	Have you DJed before?
	No.
	But it looks so dang easy.
	Yeah.
	I'm just joking, Diplo, but it looks pretty damn easy.
	So, yeah, that's it.
	Yeah, I don't know.
	I've never tried that.
	But, yeah, me and my friend Caleb Presley are going to.
	Play a Diplo's Honky Tonk.
	So, Stuart met him.
	You did?
	Oh, they're great, aren't they?
	Yeah, I love them.
	He is, yeah, he loves a nice cheese too.
	If you know of a restaurant in the area, he'll tell you about cheeses in any area.
	He almost has like a, like a, yeah, you will.
	You know that, like he already knew that.
	Yeah, yeah, he loves them cheeses.
	You know, I met him over at Havarti, listening to Hardy.
	And uh, sorry, I'm just dropping a horrible cheese country music lyrics here.
	That's always great.
	I thought it wasn't too bad.
	That's how easy it is, but no, that's so that's gonna be cool.
	I'm excited, I'm excited to get to see you play out there.
	Um, let's talk about and uh, and thanks so much for spending time with us today.
	Thanks for having me.
	I appreciate it.
	We're happy to have you.
	We had this girl in yesterday.
	Have you ever seen that girl?
	She's like on TikTok.
	She has like, she has stenosis.
	She has a like a syndrome.
	Cystinosis.
	Cystinosis.
	She keeps changing the name of it.
	But yeah, this is her.
	Have you seen her?
	She talks about the spice, a little bit of spice.
	A little hint of spiciness, like a little hint of soy sauce, a little hint of the tomato, you know, a little hint of the spice.
	Tomato and ramen?
	Yeah, it actually has like a little hint of tomato.
	Oh, yeah?
	Yeah.
	What is a hint?
	I don't even know.
	It just sounds like a little word.
	That's me all the time.
	What is even there?
	I don't know.
	Just say it first and figure it out later.
	Yeah.
	You have your new album, Dandelion.
	Or Dandelion.
	That's how people, some people were saying it.
	Yeah.
	Congratulations.
	Thank you.
	Did you feel like you had to hurry up and get this out?
	Or because I think sometimes coming off of like, you know, like you said earlier, like your career starts getting bigger and things start to feel like you don't want to lose the momentum, right?
	You've worked so hard to build a flame.
	Did it feel like any pressures?
	Like, what were some pressures that were involved with this, or was it just completely smooth?
	And is that a ridiculous question?
	Nothing is ever completely smooth, I don't think, for real.
	Some, I don't know.
	Well, I don't know.
	Maybe some things.
	Yeah.
	Some things.
	Some things.
	Maybe, yeah.
	But this record, I mean, I worked on it for like a year and a half.
	So it still took a while.
	But I keep saying the big word for this record is synchronicity.
	It did just feel like a lot of things while it was, you know, I'm co producing for the first time while I'm full time touring two different tours while, you know, just trying to balance everything at the same time, get the vocals done, you know, and.
	It taught me a lot, and that's what was so cool about having Miranda to be a part of it, you know.
	Um, because she's just so honest, you know, you've met her and hung out with her, she's just so real, yeah.
	She's great, she likes barrel racing too, yeah.
	She does, um, but she just, you know, she was just honest about, you know, days where I was like, she's like, you're burnt and take a step back, yeah.
	But also, like, you know, some things I wanted to go in there, I'm like, can I say that?
	She's like, hell yeah, you can say that and say whatever the hell you want to, you know.
	Um, so like that confidence of someone that has.
	Done it and like you look up their career so much, you're like, you know what?
	Hell yeah, you know what?
	Yes.
	Yeah, actually, I do want the cymbals to be louder right there.
	I do.
	And no, it was really cool.
	This whole record, I'm so excited about it.
	I've never been more excited about music in my life.
	Really?
	I think I've clicked in my artistry.
	Let's go, LOL.
	Yeah, yeah.
	I think I really have.
	That's a pretty badass thing to say.
	Yeah.
	I think, especially if you're somebody you mentioned earlier that you're such a judge of yourself, you know, that you get off stage and you're like, ah, that, you know.
	Yeah, that was fine, but that, but there's, it wasn't as exact as I could possibly have been, you know?
	Yeah, I just, man, this is as exact as I wanted it to be.
	I just, oh, yeah.
	We had such a vision for it.
	Like, I had a hundred and something song reference playlist of what I wanted sonically for this record.
	And now, what do you mean?
	What does that mean?
	I literally just went on Spotify and made a playlist of like all of these songs of the era I was listening for, like guitar tones and drum sounds and BGV background vocal parts.
	And, um, Do you start with that idea before anything?
	Well, actually, it started with the title Dandelion.
	We had written that song.
	It's the oldest song on the record.
	It was almost going to be put on the last record, but I pulled it at the last minute because I just kind of felt like sonically it's where I wanted to go.
	And I knew it was like the context was like, feels like I'm growing and I'm not just so hungover and doing debauchery every day of my life, you know?
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	Maybe just on Tuesdays, you know?
	But yeah, so I found out that.
	Dandelion tea is a detox for your liver.
	Oh, yeah.
	And when I heard that, it was like a light bulb went off over my head.
	It's like, oh my God, a record called Dandelion coming after a record called Hung Over.
	It's like you're just growing up.
	You're, you know, dandelions are resilient.
	They're kind of considered a weed, but I mean, what are kids going and picking out for their moms and bringing them?
	You know, it's a bunch of dandelions and they're actually spread on the wind, which is cool if it weren't for the wind.
	Yeah.
	So that's a little random little nugget in there.
	But I mean, so much of that stuff is in this record.
	And God, I love it.
	Yeah.
	I mean, sometimes I play it when I'm in my room or whatever.
	You feel that?
	You feel like a dandelion?
	I will play it.
	I'm not saying all that, but I will say I will play it sometimes.
	You never have felt like a dandelion?
	I don't think so.
	I don't know.
	I mean, I could have to read through my diary, but I don't think so.
	Probably not.
	But that's okay.
	That's okay.
	But I just, yeah.
	I mean, I love that.
	You're more of a rose.
	Okay.
	I'm more of a damn.
	What's the plant that grows on your house even if you don't want it to?
	Yeah, I'm more of a kudzu.
	You are more of a kudzu.
	I'm more of a damn kudzu because they can't get rid of me.
	They're like, this bastard.
	I thought we put him out years ago.
	And it's like, bitch, I'm still.
	You were growing under the porch the whole time.
	I'll come out and I'll tap on your window.
	I'm only playing late at night.
	Yeah.
	I'm like a damn fungus.
	Thank you.
	Sorry.
	Thank you, sir.
	I liked Vine, but we'll go fungus.
	We'll go fungus.
	No, but no, I love listening to your music.
	It's great.
	I mean, I'll be standing.
	I'll be standing, and who am I to judge?
	It's great, dude.
	One time I said to Morgan, I was like, man, that song's good.
	And he looked at me and he goes, that song's great.
	And I was like, he's right.
	And he was right.
	You just kind of sat there in silence for a minute.
	I was just trying to, I think, be cool a little bit.
	And he's like, No.
	And he was right.
	He got kind of sweaty right when he said that.
	Yeah.
	I think we were actually working out somewhere.
	So it was like, you know, extra.
	It was just like, I don't know what was going on.
	Yeah.
	But I remember him saying, that song's great.
	I was like, I respected his confidence about it.
	But no, I love listening to your music.
	It's great.
	But fuck, quit saying that, dude.
	You sound like a fucking weirdo.
	I like listening to your music.
	There's that smile again.
	But here's what happens I'll be talking to dudes and I'll be walking up and singing, or I'm at the dang market and some guy's walking by singing it.
	You know, singing it, yeah, just singing it all of it, be her, yeah, just yeah.
	Oh, dude, yeah, my friend Alan the other day, he said, I can't get this out of my head, and I was like, Well, dang, go look at some porno or something, you know, or go get a dang one of them nudie mags or something, bucko, yeah, you know.
	Um, that usually, yeah, but anyway, I was just saying because that was that song is more of like a women focused song, that's all I wrote it with three guys.
	Did you, yeah, Hardy's one, did he?
	He doesn't have long hair, he does.
	And he has nice hair too.
	Well, tell me, like, so when it comes down to making the final songs, like, or did you want to play one?
	You want to pick one out to play?
	Yeah, play a song.
	Really?
	Yeah.
	Yeah, of course.
	I'll give you all the titles.
	All right.
	And then you can just pick one of them.
	Just pick one that's not out yet.
	All right.
	If you, well, how would you know?
	How would you know?
	I think I will know.
	Okay.
	Where was that sent to me at?
	Thank you.
	Okay.
	All right.
	Let me see that.
	Just put my number in here.
	Sorry.
	I'm just watching this.
	Sorry.
	I'm just getting taken over by the devil.
	The dang devil is.
	He's swiping around in there.
	It's like you hand it to your dad and he just keeps swiping.
	And you're like, bro, if you give somebody your phone and they swipe one picture, is there anything scarier?
	You have no idea what that could be.
	You just swallow it.
	It's just so hard immediately.
	It could be casserole.
	It could be a damn somebody getting a tummy tuck.
	Was this something you meant to take to show your doctor?
	Oh, you're like, that's for my doctor.
	You're like, you were going to show that young lady to your doctor?
	I don't know.
	Me and my doctor are talking.
	I need to go to a meeting.
	What about Last Call for Us?
	Yeah.
	You can play that one.
	Is it a fun one?
	It's not as much fun, but.
	It isn't.
	If you want fun, not that one.
	Oh, that's true, huh?
	But it's, I mean, I like this song.
	Last Call for Us.
	Oh my God.
	The lights are coming on.
	I'll just listen and enjoy it.
	I don't want to believe, but it's almost three, and I think we both know that it's the last call for us.
	It's a sad, sad tune.
	That after these drinks, you'll let go of me, and I'll let go of you.
	Here we go.
	We are his word, his last call Here we go, boy My cry, Kabul.
	He's my ultimate hype man.
	I can edit that in right there.
	This time alone, we won't come back here.
	You can fade it out some.
	I think we could play one more.
	We can?
	And then we can just pick which one.
	Let's do that.
	Hey, fun.
	That's good because that might be sad.
	Because what if somebody just put their animal down or something?
	Then that's a song they want to cry to.
	Actually, that's a good point.
	That's why we put it out there.
	Yeah.
	And thank you for that.
	Yeah.
	And I'll say this I went and saw Dermot Kennedy one time.
	Have you ever heard of him?
	Mm-mm.
	Dude, and I didn't know people cried together in a big group at the rhyme, right?
	And so there was a woman crying on my back because she'd lost a pet.
	You just let her.
	I couldn't do it.
	What am I going to do?
	Just let her.
	She said, just push my legs back if they get up against you.
	And I was like, all right.
	But it was special.
	That was a crazy rhyming show.
	It was.
	All right.
	And I saw you at the rhyming.
	Remember, you asked me to sing that part and I got scared.
	Why did you get so scared?
	Because I couldn't remember it all.
	There were words.
	There's a teleprompter out there with the words on it.
	I didn't know that.
	Nobody told me that part.
	I did.
	Yes, I did.
	I would have known a teleprompter.
	I know about that.
	I know about words moving at slow speed in front of me.
	Yeah, there was one with the words on it and everything.
	I didn't know any of that.
	Yeah, they were like, everyone was like, he was upset.
	And I was like, well, why?
	I think I was upset.
	I think I was bummed because I wanted to, because I like this, I like the music.
	And so I wanted to be helpful.
	And everybody else was helping out.
	And then I think I just got too nervous.
	I didn't want to mess it up.
	You would not.
	You could have come out there and said anything and it would have been good.
	I don't want to.
	That's the fun part about that song.
	I mess up the words all the time.
	Yeah.
	All the time.
	You do seem pretty much like you just kind of, you're willing to just roll with it no matter what.
	Hey, this is a special show for y'all.
	I've never done it like this before.
	I can't help it.
	I'm human.
	I think, you know, in a world of you don't know what's real or not, like, I just think going out there and not being afraid to be humble a little bit in that way, I don't want to mess up the words.
	Like, when I did What I Want with Morgan, I messed up words almost every single time.
	I've never been so nervous to go out and do something.
	Really?
	I just felt like I could throw up.
	For I walked out there every time.
	I was like, I just cannot, I could not remember those words.
	Like, here's me, like, there ain't no hard feelings if you only want to act like lovers do for days.
	Like lovers do.
	And I couldn't stop.
	I literally just.
	You really?
	I just couldn't.
	I don't know.
	And I would have it, but then, all right, POV.
	You go through this tunnel, you know what I mean?
	And you're playing in the stadium.
	It's the most people you've ever been in front of.
	You're walking out with Morgan Wall, and everything gets dark, and there's smoke everywhere.
	And you've got to walk out, and I'm in pointy heels, and there's grates out there.
	So you've got to make sure you're not falling down in those.
	You get up, and then.
	Here you go.
	You get one shot at it.
	There's no practice, too.
	You know, you get like one rehearsal, you go out there and it's like, okay.
	But doing it in front of 80,000 people is different than at 2 p.m. in the middle of the day.
	But what was awesome is the last time we did it, he came out and messed up the words.
	And when he did that, I started to laugh so hard because he was giving me so much shit about messing up the words.
	He was just like, you can't come out here and mess this up again.
	I was like, I might.
	I'm really scared that I might.
	And so the last night he did, and it was like he just immediately could never say another thing to me about messing up the words, you know.
Pointy Heels on Grates 00:03:32
	I love it.
	So that was nice of him if he did that on purpose.
	He's like, that's what he says now.
	He's like, that's why I did it and make you feel better about it all the time.
	Like, yeah.
	And he may have, who knows?
	Nah, because when he looked back at me, it was pure like frustration that he, like, had, could no longer talk shit about me messing up the words.
	But it was even.
	Yeah.
	That's hilarious.
	I was like, yes.
	Thank you.
	Y'all do a great job on that one.
	Yeah, let's play one more then.
	Let's play something mellow that.
	Well, let me think about one more.
	Let me try and pick one more.
	Okay, can I just say yes or no if I think it's a good one?
	Yeah, well, we'll take that part out.
	Okay.
	Why?
	Because if people, if you say no, it's not a good one, that might be.
	They are, but maybe not for this setting.
	Yes, for this setting.
	That's what I'm thinking about.
	Bottom of your boots.
	Yes.
	Bang, bro.
	That was my freaking one that I wanted.
	My dad gave me that title, actually.
	Yeah.
	I was like having a freak out one night.
	It's actually kind of a sweet story.
	I was like.
	Tell me about it, Dan.
	Well, I mean, he was just giving me one of his, like, baby, you know, you're fine.
	He's like, you know, I love you from the bottom of my boots to the top of my hat.
	Oh, that's a great title.
	Anyways, that's as much of a dad as there is.
	Yeah.
	You know?
	Pep Talks.
	That's bottom to top.
	Yep.
	Bottom of your boots.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Heck yeah.
	I'm dying.
	I'm thinking it's love.
	I'm thinking it's sober.
	Boy, if you're hard.
	on the day Yeah, they got them shoulders.
	Happy to have you.
	Yeah.
	Oh man Getting closer to a love song Oh
	Oh.
	Moon and back.
	From the bottom of your boots to the top of your hat.
	I love that.
	That's good.
	That's good.
	That's good in there.
	That's good.
	Enough slices.
	Dude, your brother is a great dancer.
	That's a beautiful song.
	Dude, but he is dancing, though.
	I know.
	Pretty good, buddy.
	Heck yeah.
	I told you he's my hype man.
	Yeah, no, I would get him out there and have him do it.
Dancing Brother Hype Man 00:15:07
	Do you ever do that?
	No, but maybe we should.
	Thank you to you.
	He's been streaming.
	Has he?
	Yeah.
	He's a streamer?
	Yep.
	No.
	I have been streaming.
	Mustache Stew.
	Mustache Stew?
	Okay.
	Yeah, I like that, man.
	There's not a lot of southern streamers, really, I don't feel like.
	I know.
	I feel like I'm getting a lot of exposure, dude.
	It's been awesome.
	Mustache Stew, you know, I got the brand, I got the stew.
	Type.
	I like it, dude.
	And is that a real hat from your sister's album?
	It is.
	Oh, yeah.
	I got to get that.
	We brought you some.
	Yeah.
	Unreleased.
	Are they?
	Did you really bring one?
	Let's go.
	I can't even wait to freaking put it on whenever I get home.
	That's a great song.
	Thanks for letting us play it.
	And I think, and what a great story to go with it that it came from your dad saying that to you.
	Yeah.
	That's awesome.
	That's a nice reminder.
	Should we do one more?
	I mean, I will definitely be here for that.
	He picked out a good one.
	I think we should do broken.
	I'll do it.
	All right, yes, first chorus.
	And is it about, well, never mind, I'll just be quiet.
	You're figuring this town out one day at a time, ain't you?
	Yeah.
	can we skip walking baby and don't try to find the right thing cause the words ain't working on me lately tears just fall
	If i'm doing all right, i'm.
	falling for baby just Just folding up.
	Can't you hear this live with the crowd?
	Oh, yeah, with their lighters.
	Lighters.
	People holding up pictures of people they lost.
	Look at them there.
	Literally.
	I'll get one shot of you with that lighter.
	That's pretty clutch.
	Awesome.
	Let me be broken.
	Yeah, a lot of singing choruses on this record.
	Like, I thought a lot about wanting people to sing along to these songs.
	You did?
	Yeah.
	You thought about that?
	A lot.
	You know, I mean, I don't know.
	I just.
	No, it's important.
	Sometimes there's so many words in songs that I was just like, I cannot remember, but I can remember the melody.
	You know, so a lot with these songs, I wanted them to be kind of easy to remember.
	Big singing choruses, like, you know, you hear that chorus once and you're already.
	Knew how to sing it.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, because you want to feel a part of it.
	I mean, I think as a listener, you want to feel a part of it as quick as you can sometimes, especially if you're a fan of somebody you're like, you know, if it fits you, some of them, you know, certain songs fit certain people better than others.
	Well, maybe you haven't heard all the songs and you just know like one or two and then you come to the show, but you can still catch on to songs throughout the show because.
	Because I hate just standing there.
	I hate just standing there.
	I have too much ADHD to just stand there.
	God, and you have to keep getting snacks because you don't know the song and you're like, well, shit, I'll get another snack or whatever.
	Get another pretzel, I guess.
	I'll get another pretzel.
	Maybe make it cinnamon this time.
	Yeah, maybe I'll change things up or something and get a damn diet Gatorade or whatever, which they never came out with, which I have written them about.
	I had this, I had this, like, Choosing Texas is probably the biggest song everywhere.
	Apparently, they had like somebody called it, they called it, they found an alien or something.
	He was singing it.
	I think like there was like a family of aliens they saw somewhere that were, they saw them singing it.
	Like, it's number one on everything.
	It's like, you know, it's like the biggest song that's ever happened.
	Some guy, you see that guy in a coma who he kind of wakes up and mumbles one of the lyrics and then goes back into a coma.
	Yeah.
	He's like, and just getting them right back.
	Right off.
	No, I haven't seen that one.
	There's so many memes to it, though.
	Have you seen a lot of those?
	Yeah.
	Can we bring some up?
	What do you think about all these?
	I think that it's whatever people want to do with the song.
	You know, once I put it out there, it's like, who knows what could happen.
	And like I said, this is what's going to keep songs alive.
	You know, it's.
	Drinking Jack off by myself.
	It does sound real close to that.
	Drinking Jack off by myself?
	Yep.
	I think it does.
	It does.
	And that, like, I'll get songs stuck in my head and parts to it.
	And I just have that right there stuck in my head, like, on repeat over and over again now.
	Just drinking Jack off by myself?
	It's like, Jack and Jack on.
	And have you ever accidentally sung it like that on stage or no?
	I've feared that a lot.
	I really do.
	Because I have the thing about me where it's like, I have one specific thing I should not say.
	And then I'm accidentally going to probably say it.
	Like, I don't know why.
	God, yeah.
	Yeah, so.
	Because damn Satan's tickling you from the inside.
	Here's one right here.
	Oh, yeah.
	There's Jews in Texas.
	I see a new one all the time.
	Yeah.
	Drinking jackpot by myself.
	There's Jews in Texas, I can tell.
	And it's just a seeming, a mixed guy, at least, possibly a black man, fishing in a suburban man made pond.
	There's no way that they're fishing that pond right now.
	No way.
	I don't know.
	I bet there's some damn missing women in that bitch.
	Pull up one more.
	This.
	My dad loves that one.
	It says, some people can't see it because they're listening.
	While I'm each bounding down, I can't help but cry because I farted.
	It says on the screen.
	So that's what they're saying she said.
	That's hilarious.
	Yeah, the only ones I've seen is the Jews in taxes and then drinking jack off by myself.
	It does.
	It's like that.
	You can be my green bean.
	You remember that thing?
	You can be my queen bean.
	Lord.
	Remember that song?
	Oh.
	And everyone was like, I'm going to be lawyers.
	Yeah.
	I used to do that myself.
	You can't have my blood.
	You can be my queen.
	Life's a pain to us.
	You don't want something with us.
	You say it.
	You can be my queen bee.
	Oh, yeah.
	You can be my queen bee.
	Everyone's always saying green bean.
	Oh, you can be my queen bee.
	Okay.
	I got to stop, dude, before some real man shows up and chokes me out.
	Can we?
	Okay, moving on.
	Ella Langley, and then your own tour, you have your own tour.
	Yep.
	Is kicking off after or it's in between the one with direct support from Morgan?
	Kind of back and forth, something.
	We start in May.
	May what?
	May 7th.
	Where do we start?
	Toledo, Ohio.
	Yep.
	Toledo, Ohio.
	I think that's when Vietnam was.
	Was that where Vietnam was?
	Or not?
	I know it wasn't.
	Sorry.
	I know Vietnam was out in Toledo.
	I think Vietnam started May 7th.
	Oh, that's the day.
	I should not, it doesn't matter either way.
	At this point, let's pretend that's not part of this.
	Well, you got double Marlows on it.
	You got Dylan Marlow and Cameron Marlow.
	Not related.
	Two totally different singers, both great.
	Caitlin Butts is on there.
	I'm trying to think if I've heard her before.
	Can you bring up Caitlin Butts?
	You ain't got to die to be dead to me.
	Man, she is, she has an incredible cover of I Went Down to Tulsa.
	Oh, yeah.
	Yeah, she's incredible.
	Her voice is incredible.
	She's so fun.
	Her songs are fun.
	You know, they're all the same.
	You know, you're doing.
	She's also really funny.
	She's funny?
	Yes.
	Oh, it's the best.
	That's good.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	One thing about being funny girls.
	Being on tour, there's nothing better than a funny girl.
	A lot of funny girls I noticed, and this is something I noticed, is that a lot of them are from the Philadelphia area.
	Yeah.
	What made you notice that?
	I just noticed it and I believed it.
	Well, that's all you got to do.
	When I noticed it, I believed it.
	And then that's what it is.
	Yeah.
	Sometimes you meet some funny girls from outside or from the Philadelphia area.
	But anyway.
	Also, Caitlin Butts.
	And I look forward to getting to meet her sometime.
	She's really good.
	And then Gabriella Rose is first of three for almost the whole thing.
	She's incredible.
	Diplo was telling me something about her.
	I saw.
	She's so good.
	I believe in her a lot.
	She's young and she's still like, you know, finding herself in her artistry and, you know, doing the whole damn thing.
	But she's so good.
	Yeah.
	The way she writes, it's like you can tell she means what she says.
	And then Lacey K. Booth is another one.
	So, my God.
	They are just some good women out there.
	Yep.
	We are glad they're doing it.
	Well, yeah.
	We are glad.
	We are glad.
	Sorry, I don't know.
	Is this the weirdest interview?
	Is it okay, guys?
	It's awesome.
	Those guys are perverts, both of them.
	Ella, thanks so much for hanging out with us.
	Thank you for having me.
	I appreciate it.
	Congratulations on all of your success on everything that's going on and just learning to figure it out because I think that's one thing that everybody's trying to do.
	I think sometimes people think that people like it are in some sort of limelight or going through some sort of popularity or exposure or fame that they.
	There's a conductor behind a stage that's telling you what to do every second in the day.
	Yeah.
	No.
	Sadly, that ours is in there.
	Can you imagine what our conductors look like too in there?
	It's a mess.
	If they pulled out whoever lives in my head from behind a building, from behind a building, and they're like, look what we found back there, I would like fucking hangers from the nearest rope, bro.
	Did you ever watch the Inside Out movie?
	And he wouldn't have pants on, I bet.
	Probably.
	You're like, wait, you're telling me the guy in my head has never had pants on.
	He has never had pants.
	The officer's like, he doesn't own pants.
	You're like, what?
	We can't afford pants.
	Yeah.
	Oh, God.
	Have I ever watched the Inside Out movie?
	Yeah.
	It was like the characters that live in your brain, the cartoons.
	You would love this movie.
	I actually think that you would.
	It's incredible.
	I've never seen this.
	You should.
	You should see it with your eyes.
	It's very good.
	Okay.
	It's like about all these characters, they all are like, it's like sad, mad.
	There's like one main girl, and then there's like a, I don't know what the other one is joy.
	Yeah, there's some anger, disgust.
	Oh, I see.
	I see all of them.
	They're all labeled up there.
	Oh, wow.
	Anyway, it just always made me think about that.
	I appreciate that.
	Welcome.
	Just something for later on the plane, whenever you're on a plane.
	Yeah.
	After I get done listening to Dandelion, then I'll put on Inside Out.
	I'm sure the people sitting next to you are like, this guy's going through a problem.
	No, no.
	If someone came up on you watching that, they'd be like, yeah, for sure.
	Probably.
	It's kind of crazy that that's where we're at now.
	If it don't come up on another adult watching a fucking cartoon, they'd be like, yeah, man, you do.
	Everything's fine.
	You must be having a hard day.
	It's a crazy world.
	So, you're going to be on tour for a bit then.
	You won't get to go back home for a while, or do you have a set date where you're going to go back home?
	Will you be home for Easter?
	Will you be home for.
	Yeah, I'm going to go home for Easter.
	And then.
	Will you go back to the church that you grew up in?
	No, no.
	Just, I kind of, well, we moved to a different place.
	My parents just sold that house, actually.
	They closed out like a week or two ago.
	Oh, nice.
	Yeah.
	But yeah, I just, I bought a house back there on a lake and don't want to say where because people already come up on their boats and stuff playing my music.
	It's kind of funny.
	People are perverts.
	People are.
	Seafaring person.
	It's a small town, you know what I mean?
	They're like, yeah, they're cool.
	There's like the closest, it's like a Piggly Wiggly and a DG there, you know?
	Oh, yeah.
	I mean, people used to pull up by our apartments and steal all the ditch onions that were out there.
	I never, what?
	You haven't?
	I have never.
	Oh, they got ditch onions out there.
	And congratulations on choosing Texas as a number one.
	It's a number one for.
	It's so many.
	I don't even.
	It's too many slices.
	Too many things.
	It's actually crazy.
	It's a number one for everything.
	I think it just came out on the moon.
	It's the first number one on the moon, I think.
	Yeah, I don't really know.
	That would be nuts.
	No, yeah, I don't know.
	It's just so weird to believe that that's like a song.
	That's my song.
	Yeah.
	What?
	I know it's hard to feel attached to things that you do sometimes.
	Yeah.
	I think.
	Yep.
	I think that makes good sense.
	Well, maybe that's one of the things that makes you you, but whatever the things are that make you you, they're enjoyable to witness.
	So thank you for spending time with us.
	Thank you for your music.
	There's so many people I know that love it and that it brings joy to their life.
	And I'm glad I got to meet Mustache Stu.
	And yeah, when I need some photos and my conditioner sets, I'm going to call you and dang, get something swell going on.
	Something swell.
	Yeah, something swell.
	Ella Langley, thank you.
	Thank you for having me on here.
	Yes, ma'am.
	Now I'm just floating on the breeze and I feel I'm falling like these leaves.
	I must be cornerstone.
	Oh, but when I reach that ground, I'll share this peace of mind I found.

Chapters

00:00:00 Bus Boys Movie Tickets
00:14:33 Senior Center Deviled Eggs
00:24:57 Financial Stress and Therapy
00:29:08 Daydreaming the Drive Home
00:45:00 Burnout in a Boom Moment
00:47:20 Waffle House Rehab Vibes
01:02:24 Dead Dad Jokes and Flips
01:06:53 Taxidermist Stuffed Animals
01:12:26 DJing at Bryant Denny Stadium
01:15:22 Last Concert at Brian Denny
01:30:59 Pointy Heels on Grates
01:34:32 Dancing Brother Hype Man