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	Today's guest is one of the most popular streamers.
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	Today's guest is Mr. Hassan Piker.
	It feels like I made so many requests where I'm like, oh my God, I need to have my dog here, all this shit.
	No, dude, I'm just style it.
	Yours, like, probably.
	Yeah, is that...
	I mean, both are Japanese, I think, actually.
	Oh, yeah, that's what it is.
	Yeah.
	It's a Japanese brand called Color with a K and the Pancer Adidas Y3 Yoji Amamoto Collab.
	Damn.
	You don't fuck with fashion at all.
	I mean, yeah, I don't.
	I mean, you got to look, though.
	I mean, I don't like to have a lot of...
	That's normal.
	Oh, we're rolling?
	Yeah.
	Oh, okay.
	All right.
	Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
	My bad.
	That's why I didn't have it in my mouth because I thought we weren't filming yet.
	Yeah, dude.
	That is style.
	I mean, yeah, it's definitely very stylish.
	My good friend Aaron, he started a company called John Elliott.
	I feel like I've heard of that.
	Yeah.
	They have him like it now in Norse.
	I mean, it's like a, they have like a, it over like, I think it was like right after like G-Star kind of came out.
	Like G, I tried, I got into some G-Star first.
	Oh, you got some G-Star?
	That was like as like, let me see what we're doing kind of as I got.
	I would like to have more fashion sometimes.
	I just don't know if I, I don't care.
	Well, you got to look.
	I get too overwhelmed.
	I like knowing like there's about 17 or 18 things that I wear that'll be okay.
	Bro, you got to look.
	You can't be saying, I need to get into fashion, and you're making a deliberate choice to not have a mustache and grow a beard out.
	Oh, you think so?
	I feel like that's a look.
	Maybe that.
	I never thought about that.
	Yeah, I guess.
	You got the flannel.
	It's that little bit like a sock for your chin, kind of, I guess.
	Yeah.
	That's brave, by the way.
	I just got to say.
	To do just this?
	Yeah, I think it's brave.
	But do you think that's a culture or thing?
	What culture is your family from?
	I'm Turkish.
	Okay, so in Turkey, is that a thing?
	Do you see just this ever in Turkey?
	Sometimes.
	I mean, we don't got Amish people.
	Normally, the only time you see the beard and the no-mustache combo is if they just go with the full one.
	Oh, yeah.
	And it's just like, I don't know why they do that.
	Yeah, I saw a guy with a huge beard the other night at a comedy show.
	I think it was in Ohio.
	He had a huge beard.
	And then an Edgar, that kind of Mexican kind of Edgar cut in the front.
	I love that.
	Oh, it was great.
	This guy was ginger.
	I mean, probably Amish or recently Amish or once removed or whatever.
	And he had had that work.
	I mean, you could tell somebody in his watch, somebody had fucking, he probably had nails in his pocket.
	You know what I'm saying?
	He definitely, somebody had, somebody, I don't know, man.
	But no, you're probably the most style.
	I'm trying to think of somebody else more stylish that's come in here.
	Oh, here's some facial hair types right here.
	This is very important.
	Bro, this is like that, that Russian ethnicities photo grid.
	You know what I'm talking about?
	Like in the USSR.
	This is crazy.
	This does look like.
	Yeah, they're like, they're showing us the different kinds of Armenians.
	This does look like 40 degrees of Uber.
	That's what it looks like.
	Yeah, see, look, that's what I'm talking about.
	Oh, I thought this was one of those terror watch fucking charts, dude.
	No, no, this is like, look at all the different ethnicities in the USSR.
	It's to be better at racism.
	Well, that's what I, dude.
	Racism used to be so easy in America.
	Like, when I was growing up, it was like easy, easy to do, easy to be racist.
	Now, I've been to these, it's almost like you have to have a chart.
	You have to have a calculator to even be racist now, it feels like.
	Yeah, I hate that.
	God damn it.
	Racism used to be so easy.
	Yeah, what happened to the good old days?
	You could just point out the window and your stepdad just knew immediately what was going on.
	Yeah.
	I think it's just extra difficulty now.
	That's what it is.
	So you have to be smarter as a racist.
	There's a barrier to the turn to make the races better.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, dude, because, oh, you said there's like a barrier to entry now.
	Yeah, there's a barrier to entry to doing racism.
	It's like it's unironically a more difficult process now.
	But what I was going to say is, if you want to go back to the facial hair chart.
	Yeah, bring it up again, please, because I want to know what we're doing.
	Or was it yours, the other one?
	No, no, that was just a USSR race chart.
	Yeah, you can also get that USSR chart is easily.
	A lot of those men, you'll see a meeting with very young girls at Starbucks, trying to get them involved in something a lot of times, it seems like.
	But what is this one?
	What do you got?
	You got the chink curtain?
	No, you got the goatee.
	That's what you have.
	Yeah, I guess I have the goatee.
	It's very simple, kind of.
	It's like, I have a big nose, so I try to match.
	You know, you do little things to try and, you know, trick a wife or whatever, trick, you know, you want to have a spouse.
	So I have that.
	And then I have a little bit more chin than my brother does.
	So I have a real chin in here.
	Some people, it's completely, it's a total mirage.
	Like there's a guy that's in that power slap game and they can't even, like, he has his.
	They can't identify where his chin begins.
	Yeah, I love that.
	Especially when like dudes have that situation going on and then they'll just like grow out their beard and basically try to like line it up so that there's like a chin there.
	It's like, bro, you are not fooling anybody.
	And I don't even know what to do in that situation.
	Like if you got that, if you got that no-neck edge shit, then you're kind of cooked regardless.
	Yeah.
	But I mean, good luck.
	I don't know.
	There is the one where it's crazy where sometimes, yeah, they cut the hair exactly.
	Yeah.
	Oh, that's no-neck ed, yeah.
	He's doing real estate now, too.
	He was doing lemonade sale.
	He was in like a, he got caught up in big lemonade, or not big lemonade, but like lemonade.
	Big lemonade.
	He was so, I know he was, he got, I think he was involved with lemonade for a bit.
	I saw him selling a he was involved with like a, like a child?
	Like, what do you mean?
	No, like he was selling, he got caught up, Ed and Pete's.
	There it is, something like that, or lemonade.
	Oh, he like actually had his lemonade brand.
	Yeah, he was selling.
	It was like a, it was the opposite of, you know, they have like a long neck bottle.
	That was the whole play on it.
	Oh, oh, that's weird.
	I know.
	That's such an odd thing that he was.
	So he made like a short and stubby one.
	Yeah.
	Who wants that baby lemonade out of Ed?
	Oh, he definitely looks like the kind of guy that you would just, you want to fucking crack open.
	He looks like that fancy syrup.
	You ever see the fancy bottle of syrup and it doesn't have bring it up if you can.
	It's kind of light brown.
	It has a brown top on it.
	It's maple syrup, but it's wide.
	Oh, like the maple version?
	Yeah, the 365 of Whole Foods, that matte finished one.
	Yeah, the one that looks like a liquor bottle.
	Yes.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, looked like an old brown jug.
	That one, yeah.
	I always, he kind of had that.
	Anyway, I feel bad we're making fun of the guy now.
	Yeah, he wasn't, I don't know.
	I remember watching 90 Day Fiance, and he didn't seem like a good dude.
	Oh, really?
	He didn't seem, he didn't strike me as like a very nice guy, but I mean, who knows?
	Oh, I'll jump on a hate wagon in a Harvey dude.
	No, but I saw the other day he was doing real estate, man.
	Hassan Piker, thanks for coming in, dude.
	Yeah, I appreciate it.
	Thanks for having me.
	I know you're super busy, man.
	I admire, first of all, how streamers, how the effort it is.
	It almost seems like it's like one of those races in the Olympics that it's like an endurance game.
	But also just like your openness to thinking about things.
	You don't seem like just one type of person or like you could pigeonhole you.
	Yeah, I do a little bit of everything.
	But even just in your own beliefs, like, you know, when you talk about political stuff, it's like you seem very poignant, but also like aggressively open to things, you know, which I think, and that's a judgment.
	And maybe I shouldn't have said something like that.
	But anyway, I just admire the way that you do things, dude.
	So I appreciate you coming and hanging out.
	That's all I've ever said.
	Thanks for having me.
	I think streamers are basically like the bottom of the totem pole as far as content creators goes.
	Like it's definitely laborious, but I wouldn't say that it's like super difficult because like overall, a Hollywood production, if that is like the highest stage of like content creation and you have hundreds of people working all around the world, working around the clock to put like two and a half hours of content together where everyone's going to sit there and watch.
	Twitch streaming is like the lowest of the low, where it's just like a dude like me, half the time, you know, picking at his crotch, watching YouTube videos, picking his nose.
	And it's, you know, it's, you have to be on for eight hours at a time.
	And it's like usually one person doing that.
	And that's annoying.
	And you got to be like constantly listening to people chirp at you.
	And that part sucks.
	But overall, I would say it's like the, you know, lowest tier of content, lowest effort of content.
	Would you say that it's the purest of content, though, in a weird way?
	Like, because it's I mean, what I do is AM radio, but what I do is basically AM radio, but for zoomers, you know, I like that's the way I describe myself.
	Like, do you know, like, I'm sure you know, Rush Limbaugh.
	Yeah.
	Like, that's, that's the way that I describe what I do to older people in general, where, like, I'm like Rush Limbaugh, but without the brain, without the brain rot.
	Yeah.
	Like literally and figuratively.
	I mean, he did die of brain cancer.
	Did he?
	He had addiction, I know.
	Yeah, he also had a, yeah, he had a hole, I think, in his brain from all the perks.
	He was perked up.
	He was a perked up shouty.
	He was definitely, my body, my body, yeah.
	I think he definitely was one of the early, he was almost like a rapper in a way, like with the pills.
	I think he had the women.
	Bring up Rush Limbaugh's wife.
	Let's even get up.
	No, I don't know.
	I feel like those guys don't fuck.
	I don't know why.
	Like, unless they're, unless they're gay.
	The gay conservatives, like the ones in the closet, like they fuck.
	Okay, never mind.
	She's kind of a looker, huh?
	I mean, she's better looking than him.
	I mean, that's not saying much.
	But still, I've seen, yeah, sometimes you get a, yeah, she has a very, who does she look like a little bit?
	I've never seen his wife.
	Russomo's widow cat.
	She kind of looks like, in that photo where they're kissing, she kind of looks like Walter White's wife.
	You know what I mean?
	Oh, yeah.
	From Bregg and Bad.
	The blonde-haired lady.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	But like hotter.
	And Tori's spelling a little bit too.
	She looked like, if you go back one, Tori's spelling was probably a four-year time, but oh yeah, she does.
	Yeah, I never looked at his wife.
	Yeah, I never seen a picture of her before.
	Yeah, I mean, it'd be weird if you were just like out there Googling Roche Limbaugh's wife.
	I do that all the time.
	I look at all my favorite conservative commentators' wives.
	You just think like, yeah, I guess what are people?
	I don't know.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, I guess it's good that I'm not doing that.
	What's one of the toughest things about streaming that people don't understand, though?
	I'll say it like this.
	Back in the day, Joe Rogan used to always talk about how when you do a three-hour podcast, like there are so much that people can just like clip out of that and then take out of context, like rob it of its nuance and rob it of its context.
	And it was funny because like at the time when he was saying this, like podcasting was a relatively new medium.
	I'm talking like 2014, 2015 when he first was building out the Joe Rogan experience, right?
	Every other week, seemingly the media would yell at him over some shit that he said on his podcast.
	And he was like, we're having an honest discussion.
	It's three hours.
	It's back and forth.
	It's going to happen.
	Things are going to get taken out of context.
	I think for Twitch streaming, that's tuned up to 11. Where not only am I live, I'm talking about politics, which are, you know, I mean, I'm talking about some really crazy issues, hot button topics.
	And also, I'm doing that with a live audience who's constantly chirping at me in real time, trying to, you know, trying to constantly piss me off.
	And then when they do successfully piss me off, they'll clip that shit and post it on Twitter, post it on Reddit, be like, call out post, call out post.
	This guy's bad.
	Look at what he said.
	And, you know, when you've got like crazy dedicated haters too, especially because you're doing politics in general, you're going to have a lot of crazy dedicated haters.
	They just do, you know, they just compile all of that to be like, this is a bad person over and over and over again.
	Like, you'll see it in the in the comments section of this video.
	There will be a ton of people who are going to come in and be like, this guy is a bad dude.
	Like, he said this, he said that.
	Because like the major reason, obviously, for that is because I'm anti-Israel.
	Like, I'm pro-Palestine.
	I've been pro-Palestine for quite a while.
	And that really brings out the crazies.
	Does it really?
	Oh, yeah.
	Oh, yeah.
	You haven't encountered this?
	I mean, you had Gabor Mate on.
	Yeah, we had Gabor Mate.
	We had a rabbi.
	We had Basim Youssef.
	And we definitely have tried to learn some about it.
	I think in the end, for me, it just became like my feelings just tell me that it's just messed up what's happened to those people.
	It's like, and that a lot of it was covered up by the media or they didn't want you to share certain information or you weren't allowed to.
	No, for sure.
	I mean, that's how it's always been, though.
	It's not just for Israel.
	It's just in general.
	Like when it comes to American foreign policy, the American media is fairly one note.
	Our politicians are one note on it too.
	They're bipartisan on that.
	So when you say that, do you mean that they're all in on the same, it's all kind of the same ruse, do you mean?
	Yeah, yeah.
	They all agree.
	It's always uniparty when it comes to American foreign policy, when it comes to giving money to Israel, when it comes to a lot of that stuff, like going to war with Iraq, right?
	You got the media also presenting that lie that they have, you know, chemical weapons, they have weapons of mass destruction, and uncritically reporting on that to justify going to war with Iraq, going and invading a foreign nation that we had no business invading.
	So that happens all the time.
	Do you think that that's starting to get upset even by like podcasting, streaming?
	Do you think that that apple cart's starting to change?
	It feels like.
	Oh, for sure.
	I think that the independent media sphere definitely is like dominating partially because of that reason.
	Sometimes for bad reasons, people have lost confidence in media when they just don't like what they're reporting, even if they're reporting the truth.
	And then there are plenty of major reasons like Jeffrey Epstein's death.
	Like you go to any outlet, most of them are going to rule it a suicide.
	No critical reporting on it whatsoever, just unconditionally saying like, no, no, no, it was definitely a suicide.
	Like the average American doesn't feel that way.
	And also there's very valid reasons as to why they don't feel that way.
	Israel is another great example of this where like it was like 80% of Americans wanted a ceasefire.
	And yet if you look at all the way from CNN to Fox News, every single outlet was just like, no, no, no, you don't understand.
	Israel has to kill these children.
	Like, please, no, you don't understand.
	Like, can you imagine?
	You got imagine a role reversal in that situation where like you got Osama bin Laden's best lads on CNN immediately after 9-11 being like, listen, like we had to blow up the Twin Towers.
	Like you don't, the World Trade Center, it was right there.
	It was asking for it.
	One of them was a little askew.
	Yeah, yeah.
	We had to fix it.
	Yeah.
	Well, yeah, it's crazy.
	Well, there's that famous video that I shared a few years ago, like during COVID, when it was like every channel was reporting the same exact, it was just the same script.
	It was almost like Sinclair broadcasting.
	Yeah.
	So that's actually, that's ironically, a lot of right-wingers spread that one.
	Is that true or not?
	No, it is, but that, but that's right-wing.
	That's Sinclair Broadcasting.
	It's like a right-wing media company that basically bought out all the remaining local news broadcasters.
	Wow.
	So it's like an umbrella.
	Right-wing media is all over the place, actually.
	And a lot of people don't realize it.
	Like whenever Fox News talks about mainstream media lies, I'm like, bro, you are the most popular news network in the country.
	What do you mean, mainstream media?
	Like you're dominating everybody else.
	So you're saying that a lot of times mainstream media is also right-wing media.
	Yeah, right-wing media is so dominant.
	And in the independent side, right-wing media is dominant as hell, too.
	But like on the mainstream side, right-wing media is incredibly dominant.
	They dominate the local news with Sinclair broadcasting and also all the way up to Fox News, which is the most famous, which is the most like successful network news broadcaster in the country.
	Is Fox News the most watched news network?
	By widest margins.
	Really?
	Yeah, it's not even close.
	CNN and MSNB, Trump always talks about how CNN and NBC are in the pooper.
	Their ratings are awful.
	These guys love presenting themselves as vulnerable victims, and I really always get annoyed by that.
	They used to always say that about Facebook too.
	They're like, oh, they're banning stuff.
	And I'm sure they banned vaccine denial or whatever.
	Right.
	Because Facebook wanted to be woke and liberal until Mark Zuckerberg got hit with the Dominican Ray.
	So then when people say mainstream media, then I guess then what did it, because it always felt to me like, yeah, that every outlet was just always super liberal.
	That's what it felt like.
	They are.
	No, no, for sure.
	Like a lot of, like the New York Times, you got CNN, ABC, CBS, Like NBC, these outlets are liberal.
	Now, obviously, I'm a little bit of a radical, I guess.
	So, I'm definitely not fond of the Democratic Party either, even though my criticisms of the Democrats are because of their closeness to the Republicans in general.
	But, yeah, they are, I would say that they're definitely liberal, but that doesn't necessarily mean that they're like on the side of the people or anything like that, or on even the progressive side of many of these issues.
	And that's why I said there's this uniparty attitude, like liberals and Republicans, they basically come together and agree when it comes to giving more money to Israel.
	Not the voters.
	I'm talking like institutions.
	I'm talking politicians.
	Yeah, that seems to be, I think it feels so far away from being represented.
	Like the people feel so far away from being represented.
	And I feel like that seems like it's gotten further and further in my lifetime.
	I can't tell if it's just because I'm getting older.
	And so you hear about more stuff like that or if it's actually true.
	But I think people just feel like, you know, like, why are we having to audit our own government?
	You know, whether or not the means that they're going about it are good or not.
	But it's like, it's like the fact that people are cheering to have our own government audited.
	The fact that it's like, yeah, that 80% of the people would say they don't support what's happened in Gaza, but yet we would still send money to Israel.
	The other day, Trump was like, yo, we can't give any more money to Ukraine, right?
	You're done.
	He's like, Zell Disney, you're out.
	And then he turns around and he's like, also, we're sending $3 billion of weapons and bulldozers to Israel, Pronto.
	Did they really?
	Yeah.
	Bring that up.
	$3.4 billion, I believe.
	On the same day.
	Yep.
	Rubio bypasses Congress to send Israel $4 billion in arms.
	They were like, oh, we have to expeditiously send this out to Israel.
	Arms for what?
	What do you mean?
	To continue killing Palestinians.
	Is there anybody left there?
	Yeah.
	There's still a million plus Palestinians in the Gaza Strip.
	They're basically just like living in the rubble, trying to rebuild.
	I mean, these are some of the most resilient people on the planet.
	They've been through hell a million times over, you know?
	You still see a lot of great, like there was a beautiful video.
	I'm not sure if it was AI or not, of them trying to celebrate Ramadan the other night.
	Of the long table?
	Yeah.
	Yeah, I think that was real, though.
	I don't think that was AI.
	Because I saw people taking photos of that.
	Yeah, I mean, also, the other side of this is like the Ghazi Strip is overwhelmingly children.
	Like, we're talking, like, the average age is 14. People are like 50 plus percent are minors.
	Well, that's, I think.
	That is before October 7th.
	But, like, a year ago, people would be afraid to have, I think, this conversation to people would be afraid.
	Oh, for sure.
	Including us.
	Like, I'd be afraid that.
	No, I mean, look, I've been actively and openly pro-Palestinian emancipation for the past decade, and I've seen a major attitude shift.
	You're a Turkish McLamore, dude.
	What do you mean?
	Because he, yeah, Did he do that?
	That's what his song is.
	Oh, well, dude, you got to be pretty, you have to have an open attitude, even think that way in third grade.
	But no, he's been unabashedly afraid to share about Palestine, you know?
	Yeah.
	No, he's had his heart changed.
	I think his heart's in the right place.
	I think he's doing great.
	He was from the beginning about it.
	I mean, he was early on it.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Not like 10 years.
	He hasn't been, but since it became more of a hot button issue in the past three or four years, for sure.
	Yeah, I mean, look, I'll never discard allies.
	You know, that's an amazing thing to look at the situation with clarity, with moral clarity, and just be like, listen, I didn't know enough about this, and now I've recognized the cruelty of what we are doing.
	Because that's the other thing.
	America, whether we agree to it or not, or whether we recognize it or not, is participating in this in a pretty meaningful way.
	They're offering political cover at the UN.
	You got the basically war crime cops out there at the ICC and ICJ, the International Court of Justice, which prosecutes state on state prosecutions.
	You have the International Criminal Court, which is a court that prosecutes war criminals, right?
	And both of them have issued for Netanyahu to be arrested, right?
	So South Africa has a case against Israel for genocide that's ongoing at the ICJ.
	And at the ICC, the International Criminal Court has a prosecutor that has issued arrest warrants for Benjamin Netanyahu and Yoev Galant for the crime of doing a genocide for being war criminals, intentional starvation of a civilian, captive civilian population.
	It's a pretty obvious war crime.
	Well, I just think it's honestly, bro, some of it I think is kind of pussy.
	And I hate to say that because some people don't have pussy, they don't believe in them or whatever, but it's like, I think if your military is so great, send in snipers and get the bad guys.
	That's how I feel.
	Do some covert ops shit.
	They just have like, they just have overwhelming firepower and air superiority.
	That's it.
	But that's the part to me.
	It's like, send in some, you know, if those are the bad guys, send in and get the, like, do some.
	It just felt like this.
	I don't know.
	It just started to feel gross.
	And then the great thing was it feels like you couldn't hide it from a nation.
	You could not hide from the world that what they were doing was wrong.
	But going back to what you're saying, how much are we complicit in so many of these types of things that happen in different countries?
	And do we need to be?
	No, I think we are complicit.
	I mean, that's how I feel about it at least.
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	I don't think that America is like a true democracy by any means.
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	slash theo i wouldn't say it's like complicity uh in terms of like your hands are bloody individually but um the least you can do is not actively champion america doing this stuff and uh and and also go out and protest like and try to try to give a voice to voiceless people that are just being massacred for no reason yeah um why is there such a strong bond between america
	and israel i've heard um candace owens saying that she thought it was blackmail but what do you why do you think there's really such a strong candace owens got a lot of thoughts on that stuff i think i think there's like two different camps here you got people who critically analyze the relationship with israel and then you got people who are like it's the jews you know um i am in the critically analyzing the situation camp rather than just being like oh it's jews because they got mind control powers or whatever the fuck people say um it's
	it's because it is an unsinkable aircraft carrier in a resource-rich region and it has its own espionage facilities and that is the reason like we we basically carried over from the british uh this this settler colony in the region uh that we can just kind of use uh or have a collaborative relationship with and it's incredibly valuable for us so valuable that like i mean israel's blown up us liberty like a like an american navy ship yeah
	and and basically that was in the 50s i think yeah in that process like it was an incredibly valuable cold war ally because we were terrified of israel going and like collaborating with the ussr you got pan uh arabic nationalism happening all around the region all these countries that are developing nation states are are doing so on the boundaries of of you know defeating their their colonial occupiers whether it be french colonialism or british colonialism and simultaneously they're looking to the ussr
	right and they're like you know maybe you guys will help us out this seems like a cool thing that you guys got going on over there this socialism stuff ain't too bad america goes fuck that and they basically hit the israel button as hard as they could where they were just like you guys are going to be our you guys are going to be our extension right it's like um some of my friends say uh there are favored client states and then there are client states that america just discards ukraine is obviously
	a non-favored client state and that's what happens when you're done with ukraine where you're like i'm done with this you know pack it up uh give me all your minerals even if you have any who knows i don't care you know know your place america does this to the kurds all the time as well where they'll just like arm them and be like yeah you guys need to get you guys need to develop a nation state it'd be nice kurds are ethnic minority in the region okay um 35 million people in what region in the in the middle east uh 35 million people uh don't have
	a nation state uh a lot of them live in turkey so kind of homeless iraq well yeah yes and no and and there's like varying degrees of cruelty that they're subjected to in these countries as like an ethnic minority my country included in turkey wow and um they want to they want to build a nation state they got an autonomous region in iraq now uh they're in syria as well uh they're in iran as well and then they're trying to figure out turkey yeah so america will go up to them and be like we're gonna arm you guys we're gonna train you guys go fuck
	shit up and then as soon as they're done they they just discard them and they're like okay go you can they'll tell turkey you can go and you know bomb these villages that they're in who cares it doesn't matter anymore so what you're saying i think it's like that that's one of the things that makes it tougher the more information you learn i think in the world it's like the shittier things seem yeah in some ways but the reality of things you just see the reality it's like yeah you need and if you were playing a game of risk and you were these dick you were these powerful
	people, how would you operate?
	And yeah, it just gets to, it gets to be tough to find out, okay, well, then what does being an American still mean to me?
	And then also that things are so conflicting and dangerous out there amongst these like leaders and powers that you have to, you have to like kind of put a flag in something for yourself, you know, just to kind of get to, because otherwise you'll just be sort of aimless, it feels like.
	Well, I mean, I think I don't know if I'm even explaining that fully right, but you got to stand for something.
	Is that what you're saying?
	If you don't stand for something, you fall for everything?
	Yeah, so here's what I think.
	It's like the more we learn about history and the more we learn about just like the like, well, America did these things and some of it, 9-11 could have been the result of some of that.
	Just more as you start to learn that America hasn't always been this perfect partner and this, that it just starts to test like, okay, well, what does it mean to be an American to me?
	But then at the same time, you need to be an American because you live in a country that's safe and you're able to operate here within the country.
	So it's, I don't know, it just makes it kind of interesting.
	Does that make sense?
	No, I get it.
	What you're exhibiting is a very normal contradiction that a lot of Americans, when faced with the reality of American foreign policy, they come to terms with this.
	Like they try to resolve this contradiction where on the one hand, you're saying, well, I'm an American.
	I like the security blanket that I exist under.
	But also simultaneously, you're like, but damn, we're doing a lot of fucked up shit around the world.
	I mean, look, people always yell at me and say, oh, Hassan, you only say America bad.
	But I don't just stop at that.
	Like, I want America to be good.
	I think America has incredible potential.
	It's the wealthiest nation on the planet.
	It should be doing so much more to help its own citizens and so much more to lead the way, pave the way for a new evolution of the way that we look at international relations and the way that we engage with conflict.
	But the reason why America is the way it is is because I see it as basically 50 corporations in a trench suit.
	It's a holdover to extract tax revenue from everyday Americans and then give it directly back to corporations in the form of subsidies without ever regulating them and demanding anything in return.
	I think one of the best examples of this was when Russia invaded Ukraine and then Russia is also part of OPEC Plus.
	So they went back to South Africa.
	Okay, so take us back.
	Our listeners, if we get too much information, a lot of them don't.
	They're going to tune it out?
	Well, I think if it's new information for me, I shouldn't say them.
	If it's new information for me, it's hard for me to go along.
	So OPEC.
	Why are you throwing him under the bus?
	I know.
	I am.
	My bad, guys.
	I am the problem.
	But OPEC is the oil.
	Yeah.
	So OPEC is like an oil NATO.
	Yeah, basically, exactly.
	It's a cartel.
	Okay.
	That's what it is.
	It's a group of countries that have oil reserves that basically set the price of oil barrels.
	And Saudi Arabia is pretty dominant because they have the oil.
	Like they're the big base.
	They're damp.
	Yeah.
	And yeah, the Organization of Petroleum Exporting Countries.
	And Russia basically went back to OPEC and was like...
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	At the time, Russia had a lot to gain from.
	And all these other countries had a lot to also gain from basically limiting the price of or limiting the supply of oil.
	You know, we're in the post-COVID era too.
	And they were also making a lot of money or they had lost a lot of revenue.
	So they wanted to recoup because nobody was flying around or using oil because everyone was stuck at home.
	So they were recouping on those losses by just basically saying demand is on an all-time high.
	We're not going to produce, you know, we're not going to keep up with that demand to make sure that we stabilize the prices.
	Right.
	So they're saying, oh, there's only so much oil.
	Even though there's as much as they want, they kind of want they could have produced way more.
	So the point I was going to make is Brandon went back to Saudi Arabia.
	You know, he shook hands with MBS and was like, Brandon, Joe Brandon, Joe Biden.
	Oh, Joe Biden.
	Yeah.
	He went to Saudi Arabia.
	He was like, come on, Jack, you know, produce more oil.
	Come on, don't do it.
	And they were like, nope.
	The reason why I'm telling this convoluted story is because then we have American oil and gas industry providers, right?
	Like we have our own oil.
	Everybody always talks about how we have independence, like energy independence in America.
	So he went back to the American oil and gas industry and was like, all right, you guys have to produce more oil because you have to offset what like OPEC is doing.
	And you know what they said?
	Fuck you.
	That's what they said.
	They rely, the oil and gas producers in this country, the fossil fuel industry gets 80% of our energy subsidies.
	It's like billions of dollars that they get.
	They get kickbacks from the government.
	Not even a kickback.
	Government collects taxes and then government gives these companies, whether they're in agriculture or whether they're in the oil and gas industry, they give money to these companies to keep prices relatively low, to keep up with the cost of the production, right?
	They're like, hey, we're going to give you this money, so you keep prices low.
	But in a time.
	Oh, because that company owns so much of the actual market of whatever that product is that if they wanted to adjust it, they could do it.
	Yeah, exactly.
	I didn't even know.
	And they didn't provide, they just didn't supply the federal government with more oil.
	They did not produce more in the time to stabilize prices.
	And you got like the oil lobby guys going on CNBC and actively being like, we have a fiduciary responsibility to our shareholders to maximize profit.
	We don't care if the, you know, we don't care if the prices are high.
	You know, sucks to suck because our profits are great.
	And the reason why I explained all this is because I think that's a perfect demonstration of how America operates, like the American government operates rather, where it serves corporations, not the people.
	And then you got China on the other hand, where like it's, you know, they got billionaires too.
	They got massive corporations too, but those corporations serve the government.
	Now, that can be bad, but if the government is, you know, interested in uplifting the public good and doing like even development or whatever, then ultimately they just can force corporations' hands to do whatever they want.
	Yeah, I mean, like, like you're saying, it's like, yeah, the more you learn, it's you have to then decide, okay, you almost have to differentiate, well, what does it mean to be an American to me?
	You know, because if I stay here and I sleep under this banner of America where I can make money and I can have, and there's a welfare system, and albeit there, you know, people have ideas of whether they're good or bad and those, but, but that I stay here, I continue to stay here, I keep myself here, this is where I choose to be, you know, in the safety of this place.
	You know, it's like, well, how complicit am I?
	Or am I just an American?
	And this is, this is the, I got blessed into this place and this is where I am.
	And if somebody else weren't born into this place and they were in a place that were, you know, more hostile and scarier to live in and sleep in and try to survive in, wouldn't they be praying that they would be here or that they would have some of the same things?
	Yeah, everyone, everyone.
	Does that make any sense?
	No, it does.
	Yeah, no.
	What you're describing, like I said, is what leftists, what leftists call like living in the imperial core.
	Because if you're in the heart of empire, you at the very least don't suffer the repercussions of being the victims, right?
	Right.
	Like you're not in Guatemala, so you're not getting destabilized by the American government in many instances, or at least throughout your history.
	So you haven't been kept down and therefore your situation in comparison to them is going to be a lot better.
	And then what do I want my life to be like day to day?
	Do I want it to be this constant net, like, or do I want to not think about those things and think that those are the government's, you know, some of that's the government's responsibility?
	I do my best to elect and vote in a way that I think is meaningful and vote for the best person.
	And then I try to enjoy my life and take care of my family and my neighbor.
	You know, I think it's like, I don't know, that's kind of how I think maybe I start to break it down in my head, you know?
	Yeah.
	So that what you were describing right there is basically the heart of, I wouldn't say the problem necessarily, but that is why a lot of people just like tune out because they feel just powerless at the end of the day.
	You know, you got your protest, you vote, and then these guys do whatever the fuck they want to do.
	What am I supposed to do is like the attitude that the average citizen has in this country.
	And, you know, that's why things slowly but surely seemingly get worse year over year.
	Maybe not for you and I, because like, I mean, we're, we're relatively successful, but for like average people, for everyday people, shit is fucked up.
	And they recognize it, but they don't know who is responsible for it.
	And they become so malleable and so open to responding to anybody that will look at anybody that will recognize their frustration and say, it's actually because of this and that.
	And I think Trump tapped into that so perfectly.
	And that's why he won.
	That's why he defeated the Democrats so handily because he was like, yes, you're angry.
	I'm angry too.
	Why are you angry?
	Because woke libtards, because DEI, because trans people, because, you know, undocumented immigrants.
	Undocumented immigrants aren't your fucking landlord.
	They're not the one who's raising the price of rent.
	They don't own the mega corporations.
	They're not sitting at the board of BlackRock.
	You know what I mean?
	It's not a Guatemalan migrant that's sitting at the board of BlackRock purchasing all the fucking houses.
	Or they're not the real estate developers that refuse to add to the much needed supply of housing.
	Yeah, and instead put a fucking rag and bone in every town, dude.
	I fucking hate rag and bones.
	Well, it's just like, dude, don't tear down cool areas and just put up a rag and bone, dude.
	It's not fucking cool.
	But no, man, it's interesting.
	I never really heard it put like that.
	And then, of course, the other things, you say these other things to people.
	That doesn't feel you got to point.
	You have to approach people with something they can point a finger at, and whatever they're pointing at is close enough where they feel like it can be reached.
	Right?
	Like, those are things that it's like, but also those are things like you label, like Trump talked about them last night on some of the congressional address.
	I think it was the party address last night.
	Yeah, he did like a fake State of the Union.
	It was a joint congressional address.
	Joint congressional address.
	Because he talked about some of those things like DEI.
	Yeah, bro.
	They cut DEI.
	Now planes are fucking falling out of the sky, man.
	We need to bring Pete Buttigieg back as the transportation secretary.
	He needs to fix the problem.
	Was he a dog in there?
	No.
	We need black pilots.
	Dude, first of all, black people can jump better.
	So how are you not going to have a fucking black dude in a plane, bro?
	I don't know about the jumping.
	I don't know.
	I'm not saying factor into the pilot program.
	But still, dude, if I saw Michael Jordan in the cockpit, that bitch, we're going to stay up.
	That's how I'm.
	Oh, 100%.
	Like, that's where I feel.
	Now I think, you know, if I get on a plane and I see a white man, that dude better be in a polyamorous relationship.
	Okay.
	I need that dude sucking dick.
	Okay.
	I need something.
	If he's straight and he's a stray white male, that plane is falling, dude.
	That's what's going on.
	Trump came in.
	He killed DEI every day.
	There's another fucking plane crash.
	But is it white dudes doing it?
	Here's the thing.
	I'm fucking around.
	I'm not being serious.
	Even though Republicans do think that that is real, where they're like, oh, if there's a black woman pilot, that's why planes are falling.
	It's like, no, dumbass, it's because of fucking capitalism.
	Like they've, they've Literally undercut every aspect of production to make more money.
	They constantly outsource.
	They constantly send certain aspects of manufacturing to other countries where there's like less regulation and less restrictions.
	That makes them more money.
	And that's why fucking planes are, you know, the doors are exploding and shit while they're flying.
	Is that one of the real reasons you think it's going on?
	That's 100% the reason why it's going on.
	Bring it up.
	See if we can, that's a good question.
	Why are because there seems to be these little times in history where it's like, okay, for this year, it's almost like they press a plane trouble button and it's like, oh, now there's plane trouble.
	Well, that's also because, you know, minor incidents happen all the time, but the media hyper-focuses on them when it becomes like a hot button topic.
	That's what it is.
	And there are obviously freak accidents as well.
	Like they all, freak accidents happen.
	But I think there's never really like a perfect example, like a perfect demonstration of why these things are happening more frequently.
	Yeah.
	Let me see what this even says.
	No, there were actually more plane crashes between January 1st, 2024 and February 1st, 2024 when you compare the same time period this year to last year.
	So there were more crashes.
	Yeah, but the difference is the severity of like one big crash and then people hyper focus on it.
	This happened with Palestine, Ohio.
	Remember when the train derailment happened and everybody was like, why aren't they covering this?
	Well, you know, I'm a little bit of a foamer.
	I love trains.
	Maybe it's because of the autism, but like, you know how many train derailments happening every year?
	Every single year, a thousand.
	Some of them are minor.
	Some of them are major, right?
	So every single person hyper-focused on this, understandably, because they try to do a shitty ass cover-up for it and be like, oh, no, everything is fine.
	And there was gas leaking.
	Yeah.
	There was death.
	Oh, you just feel itchy.
	It's normal.
	Just keep drinking the water.
	It's fine that it's green.
	You know, shut up.
	But because of that, then everybody started focusing on all these derailments and they were like, what the hell's going on?
	And it's like, there's a lot of that that happens all the time.
	It's just the media doesn't pay attention to it because if you paid attention to it all the time, you'd go crazy.
	It's like crime.
	Crime in big cities.
	It's a constant.
	Oh, yeah.
	You know, that is a buddy of mine was staying with me and he's from like the suburbs of Portland, right?
	It's like a very white neighborhood.
	And I'm living, I live in the middle of West Hollywood.
	And, you know, LA is not like New York or whatever, but it's still a city, right?
	Every time he heard firecrackers or whatever, like fireworks or whatever, he would freak out.
	He's like, is that gunshots?
	I'm like, no, man, that's just fireworks.
	Like, what are you talking about?
	And then he would hear like, you know, ambulances or police sirens and he'd freak out.
	Because like, if you live in a suburb and you hear police sirens, yeah, something crazy happened, right?
	But if you live in a city, you hear it all the time.
	It's background noise because you know there's always shit happening.
	There's, you know, tens of millions of people around.
	So how are you saying that relates to this?
	What I mean by that is if you pay attention to it with apps like Nextdoor and Citizen and Ring and all this stuff, you start realizing that it's happening all the time and it makes you go crazy.
	Same with train derailments.
	Same with plane crashes and whatnot.
	They're a normal part of this process.
	And you got to look at the data and try to figure out if this is like truly unique or not.
	And in terms of the plane crashes, the deadly nature of some of them is unique.
	There have been some big ones, right?
	Like with the Ronald Reagan airport one.
	But outside of that, like, you know, minor bumps at the Seattle airport or whatever, like that's normal.
	He had a couple of them where it's like these planes almost hit you.
	And they would show you a video and I watched one of them two times.
	I'm like, that should even look close to me.
	But they just label it that way.
	It's definitely kind of fascinating.
	Then once something happens, you start to hyper-focus on it more.
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	Would you consider yourself a Democrat?
	What do you consider yourself?
	No, I'm a leftist.
	That's what I say, where I'm very critical of both parties in general.
	I don't think that either party really represents my interests.
	Like the Democrats sometimes will point to things that I care about, and they are, I guess, a little bit closer to the way I see the world than the Republicans are.
	But, you know, I'm actively critical of both parties.
	Yeah.
	Because I don't care.
	I don't care about party affiliation.
	I care about like doing right by people.
	I care about, you know, helping, putting the interests of people over the interests of profits for corporations.
	Yeah, you know, I don't, I hate it when somebody tries to label like, oh, you're a mag or you're this type of thing.
	It's like that.
	I've never wanted to be put in a box my whole life.
	I don't feel like there's enough parties really to represent the people.
	And I think the more information you get and learn, I think a lot of people start to feel that way.
	Like, I don't think this party really represents me, you know?
	But then there's such conglomerates of so many different little pieces that they almost feel like, well, I like this person in this one.
	I like this person on the chess team.
	So this rook.
	So I'm going to, they will get my vote because they have that player, right?
	But yeah, I think that that's, I think as more people get more information and able to look into things more that that kind of evolves.
	I think that there's one thing that transcends party boundaries, and I feel like you exhibit that tendency as well, and that is dissatisfaction with the government and the two-party system anyway.
	And I think Trump also captured the attention of a lot of people by making it seem like he was totally outside of this dynamic where he was like, I'm an independent, I'm a billionaire rich.
	I don't give a fuck about either of these parties, you know, vote for me.
	And that's why you have a lot of people who love Bernie Sanders because he's earnest, he's honest, and it's obvious that he's not like, you know, a Democratic Party dick rider.
	And he has a long track record of like constantly doing right by others, constantly advocating for things that like, you know, help people, even if he doesn't have much success.
	That earnesty has, I think, created this unique phenomenon of people that like Bernie and also Trump, people like yourself, who think, well, these guys are anti-establishment.
	Yeah.
	Well, I think one thing about Trump was like, and I like, fuck, it made you believe, because people, most people knew him like from rap songs, probably, from being like a rich white guy, having rich guy hair, and then from being on The Apprentice, right?
	Yeah.
	Which was a very, you want to know something crazy.
	It's pretty monumental how that all shaped out.
	You want to know something crazy about The Apprentice?
	It was one of the most diverse shows on network television at the time.
	It literally was one of the first shows that prominently featured a bunch of black and brown people in it.
	A bunch of gay people in it too.
	He was woke as hell.
	That motherfucker was doing DEI before anybody else.
	Now he switched up.
	You see this?
	He switched up.
	Yeah, I remember he gave Flavor Flava job working at an ice cream shop or something one day.
	I remember seeing that episode.
	So yeah, I mean, he was like, I just thought there was a moment where it's like, oh, anybody, because you're right, he didn't seem like a political insider.
	He seemed like, you know, I think he's always been this, or notoriously, it seemed like he's just been this kind of like real estate, shady real estate executive guy, which I think at a certain point, some people were like, oh, I'll take that.
	I'll take a ruthless business guy as our president because politics has become a ruthless business.
	But I think, yeah, I think there was a thing like, oh, anybody could be president, right?
	So that in a way felt a little bit like the American Dream, or at least a little piece of like anybody, there was a feeling like, oh, he got it.
	There's, cause nobody thought he would win.
	Yeah, that's true.
	So I think there was that comeback piece to him, right?
	Yeah.
	But then he was president for four years and people are like, oh, okay, maybe this wasn't so good.
	And then what did the Democrats do?
	And who did the Democrats put forth?
	They put forth a cadaver who was like, no, we're going back to business as usual, baby.
	And Americans were so fatigued by Donald Trump, but they were just like, I don't want to pay attention to the television anymore.
	Like, sure, I'll vote for this guy instead.
	And then Brandon wins.
	And then everyone's like, oh, my God, things are awful.
	War's all over the place.
	Biden, you mean?
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, Biden.
	I just keep saying Brandon.
	I'm sorry.
	I'm so used to calling him Brandon.
	Well, people say, let's go, Brandon, is like a Trump thing.
	Yeah, yeah.
	But then I just don't want people to get confused.
	Yeah, my bad.
	So Biden comes in and, you know, wars everywhere, cost of living crisis.
	Like a lot of the resentment and anger that people felt in 2016 towards Hillary Clinton because their situation wasn't so great that caused them to vote for Donald Trump never, it was left unexamined.
	Like it was never recognized.
	It was never fixed.
	Right.
	So when all of this stuff piles on, people are resentful again.
	And lo and behold, they want to put that mallet.
	They want to bring the mallet back in to just like hammer the federal government because they're just like, we fucking hate this.
	We hate the way things are going.
	So we'll give this guy a shot again.
	And that's how you arrive at Trump too.
	And now he is doing the mallet.
	He's ripping over the administrative state.
	He's doing mass layoffs of the federal regulatory agencies.
	And it's crazy to me that people don't understand that like these are the same problems that have persisted that he's basically worsening by also removing tens of thousands of people that work for the federal government, but like decent paying jobs.
	I'm a big advocate for more government employees.
	I think we should have millions more, not less.
	Give everybody a fucking job.
	Oh, well, I think that we should have, I think women should get paid so that they can be at home with their children and that that way or a man if one of them wants to work.
	Yeah, yeah, no.
	And then the other one can be at home to be a parent.
	You know, I wish that that was something that we did with our money.
	They would never do that, though.
	That's the problem.
	They hate.
	There was a case for it at one point.
	Yeah, I know, but I'm saying like Republicans, especially Democrats won't do either because like both parties kind of like the austerity stuff.
	What does austerity mean?
	Austerity is belt tightening, like fiscal belt tightening is in, you know, lowering expenditures and cutting social safety nets, basically.
	Well, I think people are getting to their wits and where it's like nobody believes that either one of these parties is doing anything, right?
	I think you've had the same problems.
	You've had the same things happen time over time.
	And maybe some of it at a certain point you realize, well, that's just the cost of business.
	It's just like it's just become so bloated.
	It's become more about them, like you're saying, more about corporations and less about everyday people.
	Yeah, I mean, it's never been what it is.
	Yeah, it's never been about people, in my opinion.
	It's like New Deal with a lot of like socialist communist pressure at the time.
	FDR's New Deal.
	FDR's New Deal.
	What was it?
	Bring it up.
	FDR's New Deal definitely brought forth a lot of prosperity to America, like got us out of the muck of the Great Depression.
	The New Deal was a series of domestic programs.
	Sorry to interrupt you.
	I just want to was a series of domestic programs, public works projects, and financial reforms and regulations enacted by President FDR in the U.S. between 33 and 38 in the 1900s with the aim of addressing the Great Depression, which began in 1929.
	Wow, dude.
	So he had to be right on the back of the Great Depression.
	Yeah.
	Because people always, they always, like, they'll quote him all the time, you know?
	Yeah.
	he did a lot.
	Look, he dealt with the pressing bank crisis through the Emergency Banking Act, 1933 Banking Act, Federal Emergency Relief Administration.
	We set up Social Security.
	I mean, there's so much.
	There's so much that they did in that era because Americans were, I mean, they were experiencing tremendous, tremendous hardship.
	So you're saying a lot of this felt like it was done for the people?
	Yeah, it was done for the people because it was a necessary, it was basically necessary for them to do this at the time because of all of the deregulation in the banking side with oil barons and all these robber barons basically picking apart and dominating everyday American existence and the economic collapse that came with that.
	And then someone had to come in and fix this shit.
	And I think Donald Trump is basically not doing the FDR thing, but the reverse.
	He's fucking it up and taking it back to like a pre-New Deal era where...
	Oh, 100%.
	I mean, he got Elon Musk right there.
	He's the richest guy on the planet.
	He's just putting his dick through his weird, ugly, egg-shaped penis through every single regulatory agency.
	Have people seen his penis?
	I haven't seen that.
	I don't know.
	I don't see that kind of stuff.
	Yeah, they were saying he's got a weird dick.
	First of all, yeah.
	Dude, if I'm Elon Musk, I'm definitely getting a crazy dick.
	I'm getting a fucking designer dick.
	I'm getting a fucking seater.
	I'll get a damn three-seater cop.
	Yeah, they're saying suicide doors on my if I'm Elon Musk.
	But here's what I would say is to counter the thing about Elon is like, or just to discuss it really.
	I think people are like, we don't give a fuck who's auditing this thing.
	And finally, there's like, oh, this is the person to audit.
	This is the person that's going to audit.
	This is somebody we can blame if something fucks up.
	This is somebody that at least they're saying that they're going to audit the government.
	Like, why, why do we even have to audit our own government?
	Well, we, we have, see, that's the problem.
	We already have an auditing agency.
	So these guys unironically created an additional agency, which is redundant to eliminate redundancy.
	And the unfortunate side of this is that they don't know what the fuck they're doing.
	So they go in and they just like pull data and they basically make these public declarations about, you know, a billion dollars is going to this or that.
	Oh, yeah.
	Like they straight up lied.
	They were like, oh yeah, we already cut like $200 billion of funds.
	And then like the New York Times and all these other like actual investigative reporters went in, looked at the data and they were like, dude, that's a lot.
	Like there's one instance where they claim that they cut $8 billion and they actually cut $8 million.
	Like, how do you carry over so many goddamn zeros?
	They're just like, ah, fuck it.
	Who cares?
	No one will fact check it.
	No one will look it up.
	Well, the crazy thing is, though, now you have whoever our original auditing system was.
	And then you have this second, and now we have this second auditing system.
	But dude, it goes to like, it's so, like, I'll have a financial, like an investment banker, right?
	But there's times, and I probably should, I want to hire somebody to audit my financial advisor because I'm like, is this guy stealing money from me?
	Because you hear so many stories of people getting stolen from just like entertainment, different industries, whatever.
	But it starts to be like, I don't even know who to trust anymore.
	And I think that's where most people feel like it is.
	It's like, I don't know if most people necessarily feel like that Elon or Doge is the best, but it's like now it feels like, okay, well, there's a government system that's supposed to be doing this.
	And then there's a privatized system that's supposed to be doing this.
	Now, who's the crook?
	Who knows?
	But then I think people look to Elon and they say, well, at least he came when he bought Twitter, which was a brave thing to do.
	It felt like it opened up more opportunity for free speech.
	Like things you couldn't share on there six years ago, you could share on there now.
	Bro, I'm not saying all that's true.
	It sucks now.
	I used to love Twitter.
	Twitter's got a lot of people.
	It was already like kind of lame because like, yeah, when it was owned by liberals, it was like also, it also wasn't, you know, the most fun platform, I will say.
	But at least there was like some semblance of regulation where it didn't feel like, you know, it didn't feel like the madhouse that it is now where, I mean, I know that it's like my algorithm as well, I'm sure, because I'm in politics.
	So I see a lot of political shit.
	But bro, there's like, I mean, here, I saw this this morning.
	There's a guy who straight up said Adam Schiff raped a miner at Chateau Marmont and it has 70,000 likes.
	And I'm like, what the fuck?
	It's like a QAnon thing.
	I know.
	I saw that.
	Yeah, there's so many.
	No, it's not even this.
	There was a dude who like...
	That's not even Adam.
	If you look at- They're saying Anthony Bourdain saw him rape the miner and that's why they actually killed Anthony Bourdain.
	That's their QAnon loves talking about how Anthony Bourdain saw like Hillary Clinton chop babies up or whatever, and he was right about to come out against them.
	But if you look up Truanon, Truanon actually, no, no, Truanon on Twitter.
	What is Truanon?
	Is it a cool source?
	Truanon is my friend's podcast.
	It's the number one anti-pedophilia podcast out there.
	No way.
	And then keep scrolling.
	They posted it.
	Oh, here it is.
	Here it is.
	Awakened Outlaw.
	That's the one.
	The witness is anonymously.
	One of the most persistent QAnon beliefs is a huge number of people think that, you know, some of us remember when you raped a dead child.
	76,000 likes.
	Damn.
	Bro, that's crazy.
	Like, I fucking hate Adam Schiff.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	Trump's funniest thing is when he calls him Adam shit.
	Okay.
	I hate him.
	He's my, he's my fucking congressperson.
	He sucks.
	All right.
	Massive pro-Israel guy.
	That's an insane thing.
	You, you are a fucking schizo.
	Like, what the fuck?
	But that's the crazy thing now.
	People will just, you see things and then you start to believe it.
	Oh, dude, I realize twitter starts to like it'll start to rot my mind i'll start to get and then it feeds you something it's like that's a scary and that's another scary thing just about social media it's about where we're at things just feel so you don't know what to you'll open it up you'll close it now you're furious all you were doing was looking for something your phone yeah you're bored for 10 seconds you opened it up now you got two links to some now you're furious now you close it now you're back in the grocery store where you were a minute ago you're on the fucking food aisle but
	now you are you're angry you're ape shit insane that a kid a deceased kid somewhere hypothetically got molested by a by a sitting american represent like an american congressperson yeah yeah and then it's like you want to buy a pussy fart coin or whatever and you're like and then you don't even know what to do retardio yes it's like oh retardio is going to the moon and you have all these fucking clan members or whatever trying to sell like just it just it's gotten it's crazy but that's what i mean like
	they it was like it was different crazy before but it was it was definitely not whatever the fuck this is and there's so much bottom of the barrel shit too because of the monetization stuff like people one of my favorite funniest things that i experience all the time on twitter is like you got like you know genoa radio or like saving the white race or we got to save the west accounts right like they have all these fucking accounts every single motherfucker on those accounts is from india every single motherfucker
	that does the we must preserve the white race every single one of them is is operating those accounts out of india wow because why i wonder what do you mean because you make like 10 15 that goes a long way in india as opposed to as opposed to like uh like a real racist in a cdi at another level they heard about it yeah they're using all of those accounts like there's all of those big prominent like you know uh white culture accounts yeah honky shit honkies do it better or whatever well i don't know about the honkies one but
	uh because honky seems like uh you know i don't think a dude in india knows what a honky is but well i'm talking like the the um the culture critique uh save the white race accounts and all those like defend europa accounts like every single one of them is like it's like a malaysian dude yeah you know what i mean and he's just like yeah i'm gonna make 15 this month that's a big you know that's good white race yeah he's in there yeah and and you know they post like the the shittiest videos as well it's unbelievable it's addictive porn too it's too much
	porn it's too much porn because i'll be i'll be trying to take care of myself doing decently i'll just see something an edge of a tit or something flies by it's just and then it just is like you get you can just get stuck pretty easy jerking off or whatever it gets and then i get sad and then i get ashamed of myself and then i just and then i don't even sleep in my bed on nose like dude on nights like that i will sleep on the couch it's almost like i don't even it's like damn i know it's like i'm a it's like i'm divorced in my own fucking and i just live alone it's like bro that's you like it's
	almost like i'm a husband that got caught jerking off so now you're sleeping out on the couch you got to resolve that man there's nothing wrong with jerking off especially before you go to sleep you know it's like a nightcap yeah kind of but if you guys have so many nightcaps over like 20 30 years you're like oh i'm i'm an alcoholic at this point you know i don't know i mean i've never i feel like i feel like there's a time and place for that in my in my regimen you know what i mean it's like right before i go to sleep it's the perfect time to do it there's never been a moment where like in the middle of
	the day i'm like yeah i've never been that guy i gotta crank it but i feel like a lot of those like porn addiction guys are like that so i'm like yeah it's not it's not for me but maybe you should stop porn that's how i feel when i when i hear about some of their stories oh yeah i had a buddy who had curtains put inside of his car and he would go and just close them up so he could sit in his car and masturbate without feeling like you know like people were gonna point at him or whatever what the yo that dude needs to be institutionalized what do you mean no
	put a straitjacket on that motherfucker stop you he he's gotta he's gotta be put in a room like like train spotting like he's gotta quit cold turkey like he's quitting heroin in soho that's considered off broadway yeah no no way dude no render him immobile for like a week and oh my god the amount of the amount of energy that he probably has in there trapped in there if he doesn't jerk off for a week he's gonna start levitating he's gonna come out of there like like a god his car to start running on his own uh
	on his own semen or whatever i shouldn't have said that part but um you had uh bernie sanders on your show i did yeah pretty cool man how awesome was that yeah he's he's the man i love bernie did you find it interesting that people cheered so much against him when they said that he also took money during like remember that a couple of months ago not a not a judgment against him i think all these people i think when you get into politics right it's almost like being in a big family and if you want something done it feels like you have to there's it's almost just like he took money from what though well what did they say that he took money from
	who oh rfk that was during his during that during when he was interviewing rfk during rfk's hearing that bernie was taking money from yeah that's that's not yeah that's not correct he never got money from the pharmaceutical industry like from the from the big corporate lobbyists he probably got so the way this works on uh open secrets is like let me just read this so just so you can feel the figure cited by kennedy referred to the industry in which individual donors were employed uh yeah okay oh because kennedy said that he of that um bernie sanders
	got a certain amount of money yeah and this is just a clip this is this is actually a perfect example of what we've been talking about where you see a clip of something right um in 2020 this was the claim senator bernie sanders was the single largest receiver of pharmaceutical money in congress and uh the context was this figure cited by rfk jr referred to the industry in which individual donors were employed yeah it did not refer to funds originating from or directed by pharmaceutical companies so what what that is is the way that they the way that when you make a donation
	to a politician as an individual it gets filed with the fec right and in that filing you write what your job is right and if you work in the pharmaceutical industry if you work for johnson and johnson as a janitor that basically gets tracked as like johnson and johnson uh in the in the uh section of like whichever sector you're a part of so like uh a lot of nurses gave donations to bernie sanders so that's like technically still lobbed under like healthcare and
	uh it was not yeah it was never it was never from like the executives it wasn't like executives giving him millions of dollars like the fucking janitor works there or like, you know, like an accountant that works for this company.
	But it gets filed so that it looks like that in some sort of well, they just, it's good to have like knowing what sectors are donating.
	But yeah, there is room for nuance, of course, there.
	And RFK was falsely claiming that he was getting money from like CEOs and like the industry, industry PACs or whatever, when that wasn't the case.
	It was just like random people that work for these companies, you know?
	Yeah, I think it makes, I mean, it totally makes sense to me that that's the way that it could happen, you know?
	Yeah.
	But it's so funny.
	RFK probably saw a clip or has heard, you know, it's just like, it's so, it's like.
	I think RFK knows better.
	I don't trust any of these guys.
	I'll be honest with you.
	Like whether it's RFK, Trump, or any number of these people or, you know, Democrats as well, like Kamala Harris, like, I think RFK definitely knows better.
	He's just saying that because it's a good line and people will believe him.
	Yeah.
	And I mean, look, that's how it works.
	I know because like Joe Rogan talked about it too, where they were talking about like Elizabeth Warren and Bernie Sanders getting money from like these, you know, big pharmaceutical corporations.
	That wasn't the case, but it got a lot of mileage on that side of the internet.
	That's the other thing that I am frustrated by, where there's like no consensus on this stuff anymore.
	Like, what does a consensus mean?
	Like we all agree on one thing?
	Yeah.
	And you don't have to agree on one.
	Like not everybody has to get together and agree on the same thing, but like there's no, there's no established truth anymore where everybody's just like operating on whatever the fuck they think is the is the truth and and heavily leaning into their biases.
	And I feel like the internet has become way more echo chambered in that regard.
	And it's very frustrating to see.
	You know?
	There's no, there's no, what do you say?
	Consensus?
	Consensus.
	So there's no like regional place you can go to except now almost your own gut or if you're influenced by clips or whatever, right?
	Yeah, but we're dumbasses.
	You know what I mean?
	Like we're, we're fucking stupid.
	I'm stupid.
	Like I can't gut check everything.
	Like I can't even fucking keep up with you, dude.
	I fucking feel you.
	But what I'm saying is, is that better than us all being under the influence of some consensus?
	I'm not disagreeing with you.
	I'm just looking at it, right?
	I think it's good to have a healthy diet of both, right?
	Like you still need to have trusted resources that you can go to and rely on that will every now and then be like, that's wrong.
	You know what I mean?
	And I try to urge people to not get their media diet exclusively from me either for that reason.
	And even my media diet itself is incredibly diverse.
	I probably watch more Fox News than I watch like CNN and shit, partially because they're more entertaining.
	But, you know, I look at everything so that I can develop a better understanding of like what people are saying and what people are believing in general.
	I need to do a better job of that, I think, of finding my information diet and just where does it come from.
	I just don't get enough of it a lot of times.
	A lot of times I operate mostly just like on my own feelings kind of, which is in the end, kind of your instincts or whatever.
	But then I start to notice that things that I get influenced by and like my own algorithm and things.
	It's like, oh, I'm fucking getting influenced.
	You know, I'm up last night in the middle of the night and it's like, have I reposted too many TikToks about Gaza?
	You know, and I'm up for 40 minutes last night laying in my bed and my brain's calculating, but shit like that.
	You know, it's like, but it's just because I'll get to my, you know, it's like, none of it's bad stuff, really, but it's, I'll notice if I get on my Twitter thing, especially, I'll get angry.
	I get, and then I'm like, if I'm at least aware of this is happening, people that aren't aware, that aren't even thinking like, oh, this is affecting me.
	They're just being affected.
	Then it's like, man.
	The way I see my goal, like the way I see my job is to basically get people to understand why they're angry and then get angry at the appropriate vectors, like where who's actually causing harm in their immediate lives.
	That's why I actively urge people to unionize and work to organize in their communities and organize in their workplaces in general.
	So they have a network of support with like, not necessarily even like-minded people, but like people that have the same interests, right?
	You don't have to like your coworkers all that much, but no matter what, your boss is still fucking you over in the exact same way, right?
	He wants you to work the most amount of hours for the least amount of pay.
	You want to work the least amount of hours for the most amount of pay.
	This is a contradiction, right?
	So how do you resolve that?
	The only way to overcome the unlimited amount of power that your boss has over you is by getting together and being like, hey, man, you got to give us a better contract.
	Right.
	Like those are the things that I advocate for so that people develop a better understanding of who's actually harming them and maybe improve their lives immediately in the short term and then build on that momentum.
	With that said, do you think we should have like a higher minimum wage, you feel like?
	I mean, I think that's one part of this story, but it's not.
	I've thought about it a lot.
	I've listened to people talk about it.
	Yeah, I think it's good, but that's still a Band-Aid solution.
	I think there needs to be more labor-backed control in general.
	Like unions and stuff?
	Yeah, labor unions.
	Yeah.
	We have a 10% union participation rate in this country is lower than other countries that we fucked up, like Chile.
	We fucked up Chile.
	We did a coup there.
	We set up a dictatorship.
	And they still were able to unionize the US.
	Yeah, and we rewrote their constitution.
	And they still have a higher union participation rate than we do.
	They have 15% in Chile.
	We have 10%.
	We had the Teamsters president, one of the Teamsters union presidents on.
	Oh, yeah, you had Sean O'Brien?
	Yeah.
	He was interesting.
	I've interviewed him before.
	I've had some combos on him.
	He has a podcast now.
	Oh, he does?
	Yeah.
	I didn't know that.
	I saw him at the inauguration.
	It's just interesting to, I'd never talk to a Teamsters union president.
	I've heard of the Teamsters.
	You know, I watched newsies or whatever, like when I was a kid a bunch.
	But it was just interesting to see that, you know, to learn about unions and see how they work.
	And then some people are like, well, once you get unionized, it's hard to, you don't have as much individuality.
	So if I'm super hard worker and I'm Self-motivated, then maybe I don't want to be a part of the union, you know?
	Yeah.
	But I could see that as a safety net for people to have a union against corporations.
	Like, yeah, to me, it makes perfect sense.
	Like, yeah, otherwise they're going to clean out your pockets.
	They're going to.
	That's look, every union, every union member will tell you, like, the, the motto for unions is united, we bargain, divided, we beg, right?
	You can either go and be like, I'm such a good guy.
	Please, like, look at how hard I'm working.
	And then in the off chance, maybe get recognized by your boss and maybe get a little bit extra money on the side.
	Or you can get together with your, you know, you can get together and engage in the act of collective bargaining and force the company's hand into offering you better benefits and basically claw back the profits that you're generating for them.
	Because without the workforce, you got nothing.
	What do you think?
	The fucking CEO is going to build the table?
	No.
	You know what I mean?
	He doesn't know the first thing about building tables.
	It's just going to, all it's going to be is a bunch of wood on the factory floor without you.
	Workers are the ones who add the value, who generate the value.
	Yeah, Bernie has a good, Bernie had a good thing about that.
	He said that, well, if we're going to shorten people's work weeks, right?
	He was talking about having a shorter work week.
	And then that since companies' profits are going up, then the employees, the amount that they should make should go up.
	It's like, it shouldn't just be the company at the top that has the increase.
	Yeah.
	So, I mean, AI is a perfect example of this, right?
	Like, it's very disruptive to the environment.
	I don't like that.
	But more importantly, also on top of that, it's used as a way to displace the existing labor force, right?
	Because now you can just get the machine to do the job of the person that was doing the job beforehand.
	I'm an advocate that like, no, you should still keep that person employed, pay him the same amount of money, make him work less.
	Why?
	I mean, why are you firing this person now?
	Because AI is a tool, right?
	But the way that companies work under capitalism is whenever there's a technological advancement like this, right?
	This has allowed us to be on 24-7.
	Now you can have so much more output as a worker, right?
	You can be online at all times.
	Productivity rises in that process.
	Your boss can get a hold of you at all times.
	Yeah, your boss can get a hold of you at all times.
	You're more tapped in.
	You're more aware of what's going on in the world.
	And you can be a better worker because of that.
	But in that process, bosses look at that and go, okay, now I can make one guy do the work of five.
	I'm going to fire four fucking people and I'm going to make the one guy do the work of the other four people.
	And that is how that is under capitalism, that's how it works, where they use technological advancements that increase productivity to displace the existing labor force, to just basically fire them.
	And instead of lowering the hours that the existing workforce worked and maybe even increasing their pay in the process, because they're still doing the same work.
	You know what I mean?
	And because they're fucking human beings.
	Exactly.
	At a certain point, it has to tip towards an actual revolution where people pick up.
	And I don't know if we can say this or not, but I'm not.
	I mean, I say it all the time.
	People call me radical for that.
	Really?
	I'm a big revolution guy.
	I've always had little dreams of like semi-revolutions or like regional or whatever at least.
	I hope at least I can make it to the regional revolution.
	Like I understand if I don't make it to the national one, but I want to be on a horseback or at least on a fucking standing next to a count or one of our bosses or whatever.
	You know why?
	See?
	Because that is fucking overthrowing the system.
	I know, but think about the way you presented that.
	You want a count or a boss to be the leader of the revolution.
	Somebody's going to have to have some sort of fucking revolution.
	I agree, but it should be people back revolution.
	That's what.
	Oh, yeah, people, but one of us gets mildly elected or something.
	Yeah, but not a boss or a fucking politician.
	those guys or account is going to be, it's going to be a, uh, an organizer, an activist, someone with a, someone with a background, uh, someone who understands the needs of the people.
	It's going to be somebody also who works at a Renaissance fair full time, who can be on a horseback, who can handle the type of, It's kind of crazy, but you will need a dude who is fucking, I am willing to ride through here with a spear.
	But yeah, at a certain point, if you let so many people go just to appease a company, to appease corporations, you're just going to have more, those people have to, at some point, there has to be a revolution.
	Isn't that how revolutions happen?
	Yeah.
	I mean, when conditions worsen to a certain degree, yeah, people go, all right, enough is enough.
	We're backed into a corner.
	And they start recognizing that like they're being fucked over.
	But that can also lead to a dangerous path where, you know, tell me about that.
	Well, the dangerous part about that is like if they're if the people are not steered in the right direction to recognize who's actually doing the harm to them, they can be deluded by misinformation and think it's the Jews or think it's fucking Anthony Bourdain.
	Or yeah, I think it's Adam Schiff who's apparently having sex with dead children in their minds or think it's like the Guatemalan immigrant.
	You know what I mean?
	That motherfucker is not controlling your life.
	He is worse off than you and he has the exact same interests as you.
	He just wants to put food in his belly and to have a roof over his head.
	You talk to the Guatemalans that came over the border and stuff?
	Yeah, yeah.
	That's what I mean.
	Like a Guatemalan immigrant or a Honduran immigrant is not like, he's not dominating your life at all.
	They're not here to do evil.
	They're not here to do bad.
	They're here to just like work.
	They fucking pick strawberries all goddamn day.
	So our asses can eat those strawberries cheap as hell.
	You know what I mean?
	And then we turn around and we're like, yeah, they're all rapists, drug dealer, murderers.
	We got to fucking purge the country of these people.
	And it's like, it's really fucked up.
	How would you, how do you successfully do something like that then?
	Because I think a lot of people's concern.
	Well, I think here's what happens is you're like, I'm not safe anymore.
	Right.
	And you start to feel, right, there's people that get, that, that were raped or killed.
	There was a couple of instances where they, that they put them on the news, right?
	They were on the congressional, you know, they had some of this.
	Trump had them.
	Trump had them at the victims, at the congressional joint congressional hearing.
	Right.
	So I think you hear about those things and you're like, well, yeah, you start to, you'll start to apply them to everyone.
	Which is crazy.
	Think about that.
	We say there's 20 million undocumented migrants in this country.
	They come from every part of the country.
	and to think that they're all one collective hive mind that's here to do like evil rapes and shit is psychotic.
	I'm like, bro, like they don't even speak each other's language.
	Like, what are you talking about?
	Like, they have no unified hive mind here, but you, you basically learn to think that way.
	You learn to hate in that regard.
	And I think the media plays a big role in this, like right-wing media specifically.
	Is it hate, though, you think?
	Because it's like, I, I. It's fear.
	Okay.
	So I, cause to me, it's like, have a fucking organized system.
	If I go to a, dude, I go to, I went to Canada a couple days ago.
	It was heck.
	It was heck getting in and out of there.
	It's heck getting in out of there.
	It's super organized.
	You know, it's like, but we should, it just, because here's the thing.
	If you don't know who's in your country, then you can't do a correct census.
	You can't allocate things correctly to people.
	You can't know who needs what in certain areas.
	That's why they also factor on knocking migrants into the census as well.
	But if they're fearful of the federal government, if they're fearful of the federal government, they're not going to open the door for a census guy.
	That's part of the reason why sanctuary cities began to begin with.
	It was actually advocated for, this is something that, this is old lore.
	People don't even know this at this point because everybody thinks like, oh, sanctuary cities is woke, lip-tart bullshit.
	Bro, it was the fucking cops and the FBI that was advocating for sanctuary cities.
	Why?
	Because whenever a murder or some kind of like violence happened in an undocumented neighborhood, cops would come in and nobody would talk to them.
	So they were like four times.
	We can hear it.
	That's important.
	I never knew that.
	Sanctuary cities initially were proposed by law enforcement because they realized that whenever there was violence or like, you know, drug dealing or a murder that took place in an area where the witnesses were undocumented migrants, they wouldn't talk to the cops because they were fearful that if they talked to the cops, they were going to get fucking deported.
	So in order to open up more collaboration and actually solve crimes like rape, murder, and all these other like violent crimes, they were like, we have to tell every undocumented migrant, like, we're not going to arrest you.
	We're not going to collaborate with ICE or INS at the time before ICE existed.
	We are just here to serve you as public servants.
	And that was the reason why it was law enforcement that initially suggested sanctuary cities.
	It wasn't like woke activists or whatever.
	And it's so interesting that now Republicans say, use that as a catch-all term to be like, oh, you're letting criminals go, basically.
	That's what they make it seem like.
	That's what they imply.
	Bring that up.
	How did sanctuary cities get started?
	That's fascinating, man.
	Sanctuary City policies were not originally proposed by law enforcement.
	But they've come to support them for public safety reasons.
	In the 1980s, when churches in the United States provided refuge for individuals escaping civil unrest in El Salvador, Sanctuary City specifically emerged from protests against federal immigration policies that denied asylum to refugees.
	However, many law enforcement officials, including police chiefs, have advocated for sanctuary policies.
	They argue that these policies help build a trust between immigrant communities and local law enforcement.
	This trust is crucial for encouraging immigrants to report crimes and cooperate with police investigations.
	Sanctuary policies allow police to focus on local priorities and prevent crimes.
	Wow, that's interesting, man.
	I wonder though.
	What's that?
	I'm sorry?
	What is the AI search engine or some shit?
	What is this?
	Yeah, this is perplexity, but they have all the sources cited.
	I think it's interesting then, though, I wonder how many cities then jumped on it as a, even on the Democratic side, to say like, or left side, whatever you want to call it, but like to say, oh, I better be a part of this now if I want my voters to then vote for me.
	You know what I'm saying?
	Like, so sometimes like the political kickball gets created one way, but it also gets used in a field in another way.
	Well, it's not saying what is right or wrong.
	Because I'm an active amnesty advocate.
	Like, I think if, first of all, this is a civil offense.
	Crossing the border is a civil offense.
	Right.
	Right.
	And you have a five-year period where if you haven't done any crimes, like the statute of limitation is over.
	Now, there's different legal, there are different legal interpretations of this and people go back and forth on it.
	But like the way I think about it is like, if a dude is in here and they're working, right?
	And they're not trying to do a, you know, they're not here to do evil shit.
	They're here to just simply work.
	Give him fucking, give him documentation.
	The difference between an undocumented migrant and a documented one is just a piece of paper, is paperwork.
	Process these people and allow them to contribute to our coffers in more meaningful ways because they already pay taxes, but they could be paying more taxes as well.
	They pay taxes if they're undocumented?
	Yeah.
	Because I think they still pay into social security because they have to get a social security number, some sort of social security number.
	They pay for sales taxes, things of that nature.
	You know what I mean?
	Like there's a bunch of different contributions that they make, and they can't take advantage of any of the government programs anyway.
	That's why a lot of Republicans lie.
	They'll be like, oh, undocumented migrants are stealing our social safety nets.
	And I'm over here like, what social safety nets do we have?
	We don't have health care.
	Are they taking advantage of health care that we don't have?
	They don't have health care.
	The thing is, Republicans will literally factor in their natural born U.S. citizen children into the equation to be like, see, they're sending their children to public schools.
	It's like, bro, that's an American citizen.
	Right.
	The child is an American citizen.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	One in 15 households in this country is a mixed status household.
	One in 15. Oh, yeah.
	You can't even, I mean, you fucking everybody's mixed now, it feels like.
	Mixed status, like as in one parent is undocumented, like a non-citizen.
	Oh, yeah.
	Yeah.
	So it's probably Mexican a lot of times, I would bet.
	And that's just even my Mexican friends are always like, you know, my uncle's in the back or whatever they'll say, you know, and I don't say anything.
	But it's like, I, you know, I think it's interesting.
	It's interesting, like, what things get, how things get framed, right?
	By the media, how things get used, how things like even programs like Sanctuary City, how does it then get manipulated and used as like a negative thing or is a thing where one party feels like, well, I better declare as this or I'm going to be out of the money, whatever the next thing is.
	Like, yeah, I mean, there's definitely an incentive structure among politicians to advocate for certain things, but ultimately, I don't really care what the incentive structure is.
	if the legislation is good, if it's a good thing.
	If Trump were to do a good thing, I would advocate for it as well.
	You know what I mean?
	Do you think that's true?
	Because it seems like I have in the past when Trump last time he was president, when he basically said, I'm going to back away from this North Korea, South Korea shit, and I'm going to let you guys handle it on your own.
	And in the process, he actually reduced the military campaigns that were taking place around the Korean peninsula to allow these two countries to talk to one another.
	It's one country technically that we fucking cut in half, but that's a long history lesson.
	I'm not going to get into it North Korea and South Korea.
	Yeah.
	And that was an objectively good thing.
	Like I said it at the time.
	I was like, and Rachel Maddow was very mad.
	He was like, oh, you're doing this because you love Vladimir Putin or whatever the fuck.
	But like, no, that was not a bad thing.
	Like, let these guys hash it out and let them rebuild their nation.
	You know, why the fuck are we like, why do we have 80,000 to 100,000 troops stationed all the time?
	Yeah.
	I mean, yeah, it feels alarming.
	It feels like you have to have this military thing.
	I think one thing that I noticed last night was like the military has had a tough time getting recruits, right?
	Yeah.
	Recruitment has been down.
	Yeah.
	And so part of me always wonders, well, like, did the powers that be then want Republicans to be in office because they know that eventually, if people are believing more in their country again, it will incite more recruitments.
	I'm not saying that that's the truth, but you just start to wonder what the fuck is really important.
	I'll tell you what made recruitment numbers explode.
	Does that make sense to you, though?
	I mean, I know where you're coming from, but what made recruitment numbers explode initially was 9-11.
	That's it.
	People joined after 9-11.
	And after 20 years of just like going out there and guarding like poppy fields and getting your dick blown off by some fucking dude who's hated you because you invaded his country when he was like 14 and probably killed his cousin, you know, after 20 years of doing that, everyone was like, oh, this shit sucks.
	We kind of lost it here, huh?
	Like, we did a Vietnam in Afghanistan and we had to pull out.
	So, and that was a good thing, objectively.
	I think it's good that we pulled out of Afghanistan.
	But I think that's the real reason why people are like, why the fuck would I join the military?
	I can't even get a fucking Charger anymore.
	You know, they, they, Dodge Chargers?
	The Dodge Chargers, or was it, was it the Camaro?
	Were they giving those out?
	That's the common military car.
	Oh, they get it.
	That's true, huh?
	You sign off on one of those.
	The worst loan of all time.
	Oh, yeah, dude.
	And then your high school sweetheart is fucking the neighbor while you're out there.
	Sometimes, I mean, yeah.
	While you're out there jerking off in a fucking bunker in correct.
	I'm just jerking off on you or whatever, and you guys are changing each other's names after 8 p.m.
	or whatever.
	And shit, I think shit gets pretty melodic out there.
	That's what I mean.
	You're like, why the fuck are you doing that?
	And then you come back and the American government's like, all right, we'll give you healthcare, but now you're busted.
	You need it desperately.
	And they're like, all right, we'll pay for your college.
	Okay.
	You go to college.
	You get a communications degree.
	Now you're, you know, six years behind the rest of your counterparts.
	And you're in the same shit ass job market working, sucking the man's dick every day, working a dead-end job that you despise.
	Yeah, or you baby.
	And you're fucked up.
	And now every time you go to the grocery store to pick out cereal, you're having a crisis, like a mental health episode.
	It's fucked up.
	Well, a lot of people will also go into the military, learn some patterns that help them to achieve well.
	My buddy Josh was in for a while.
	He got out and now he's able to be a good business owner because he learned, you know, he got up in the morning.
	You know, it just helped him have some regimen.
	Yeah, no, for sure.
	I don't think that regimen is bad.
	I'm a very regimented person.
	I just think that the military's output overall is, you know, you're just sending poor people from different parts of the country overseas to go dominate some other poor people so that rich people in fucking California can make more money.
	So the Raytheon can send more missiles and make more missiles.
	And you got to use those missiles when you make them, you know?
	If you don't use it, you lose it.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Oh, your missiles are going.
	Yeah.
	Somebody said there was an email one time that like, oh, your missiles are expiring soon.
	You should use them.
	It's like, what the fuck?
	But they do that.
	They, they, any, if you got homies who were active duty, they'll tell you, like, you just dump so much money because they know that, like, it's going to go bad.
	Yeah.
	Like, you just fucking shoot it out into the sea.
	If you're in the Navy, you're just like, let them pop that bitch off.
	Get out there.
	After lunch today.
	Yeah.
	We're going to fire a couple of these off at a time.
	And that's your island.
	That's an island.
	Like, nobody's there.
	Yeah.
	You're dumping payload into an island that is more than your salary times 10 because it's going to go bad.
	How is that not waste and fraud and abuse?
	Why the fuck are they not working on that?
	My argument always is this.
	The American military is a jobs program.
	That's what it is.
	It's the, I think it's the second largest hiring body in the country after Walmart, if I'm not mistaken.
	It might be the largest.
	And I think instead of making those guys, you know, making these corn-fed boys from Arkansas go out and, you know, force them to eat MREs all goddamn day and be constipated for a fucking week, make them build shit.
	You know, make them build shit in America.
	It's a jobs program.
	Who cares?
	Make the output be good rather than bad.
	That is what my argument is.
	The world's biggest employers, Ministry of Defense, U.S. Department of Defense.
	Yeah, the Indian Ministry of Defense is the largest.
	And then the world's second largest employer.
	All right, I guess the U.S. Department of Defense is bigger than Walmart.
	Walmart and Amazon.
	No, man, that's a great point.
	I think, and maybe, and, you know, I wish I knew more of what some of those groups did a lot of times.
	Or the military?
	Yeah, but I agree with you.
	It's like, I agree the fact that why are the voter, why does the gun carrier, the water carrier, you're always at this, it's a caste system really in a lot of ways.
	Those are the people having to do the bidding of these elites, you know, of these countries and stuff like that.
	But then at a certain point, it's like, do I decide this is my, what, what, what integrity or what do I want to have inside of myself when I'm doing that?
	I could be all day like, fuck, I don't want to be doing this.
	This country is a piece of shit or whatever.
	Or I can have pride in what I'm doing no matter what and the spot that I'm existing in in this sort of strata, right?
	And I stand up for my country.
	And it's just, you know, as we get more information, it's just, uh, it's fascinating how things change.
	I just want, like, I...
	I don't hate people.
	I just want them to have better lives.
	You know what I mean?
	Even people that I disagree with vehemently, like I always stress this point where I say Medicare for all means for everybody, right?
	Even if you're a fucking Nazi, you're going to get healthcare.
	Even if you don't want healthcare, I'm going to fucking give you that health care.
	I don't give a shit.
	Okay.
	You can cry about it all day, every day.
	It's just, and I think that's the attitude that other people are supposed to have in this process too.
	Like there's got to be a universality to these proposals because like I think we got to do right by others and we are not doing that right now.
	The American government is not doing that at every step of the process.
	And that's why the military is a great example of this.
	We're just using and abusing these dudes and making them do a whole lot of awful shit overseas so that some rich asshole can make more money.
	And then they're broken in that process.
	They come back.
	There's no way of repairing them.
	And we basically lie to them too.
	We're like, oh yeah, you'll get a great job.
	You'll go to college.
	You'll be able to uplift yourself.
	And it's like, that should be available without you having to serve in the military.
	But if that was available, if free college existed, if free healthcare existed, and no fucking buddy is going to the military, why the fuck would you do that?
	Unless he had some real gunners.
	Unless he had some cool Call of Duty, Verdansk, Modern Warfare dogs.
	Okay, but I mean, yeah, those guys are...
	Yeah, you would, but I agree.
	It wouldn't be this.
	It's significantly lower.
	It wouldn't be this system that gets kind of manipulated and used.
	That's why they don't want to fix it, though.
	That's why they don't want to fix it.
	But that's why they don't want to fix so many things.
	And that's what I'm saying.
	We learn more.
	As we learn more about it, you start to see some of the clarity or some of you learn more.
	You have more information.
	But then how do I operate still when I have that more information?
	Like, do I, you know, it's tough because if I become a nihilist or, you know, so then I'm miserable.
	My day-to-day is miserable.
	You know, and I'm not disagreeing with you.
	I'm just saying it's how do we manage in those spaces as we learn more?
	I don't know.
	I'm fairly tapped into all of the shortcomings of the American government.
	And yet I enjoy myself.
	I mean, I still jerk off before I go to sleep.
	I still watch anime.
	I play basketball.
	I focus on myself.
	I think like there are certain things that you have control over, and that is your own body, right?
	Your immediate friends and your family.
	And you should actively work on those things to basically not lose sight of your own humanity because it's easy to get lost in the sauce, in the everyday cruelty that you recognize is happening all around.
	And it makes you go crazy.
	And in order to combat that, I always urge people to engage in self-improvement, set goals for yourself, and try to achieve them.
	That's at least how I've always managed this stuff.
	And also being around other people who aren't immediately agreeing to your worldview.
	Like I love parks for that reason.
	I love third spaces.
	No, not like parks and recreation as in like the TV show.
	I mean like literal public parks.
	Oh yeah, dude.
	There's a fucking, there's a band, or not a band, there's some homeless guys stole, I guess, a band's high school equipment during COVID over by the, there's a park behind my apartment.
	And you could hear them sometimes practicing in like 3 or 4 a.m.
	They'd get some, they get a couple dudes tuned up in a tent or whatever.
	And you could hear them.
	What song were they playing for a while?
	Oh.
	Love the way you lie.
	Just gonna stand there and watch you burn.
	I don't know what instruments they had, but it was pretty cool.
	You know, they got a hold of the sheet music and everything, you know, but it's like, yeah, just making the most of where you're at.
	And also our military is there, like, it keeps us safe.
	If there's flooding, if they're, they do a ton of stuff.
	Yeah, the Army Corps of Engineers, like I interviewed a guy.
	I don't want people to feel like their lives are in vain.
	No, no.
	I admire people that go and are willing to put their years of lives in.
	Trump is firing those guys too, by the way, right now.
	Like the Army Corps of Engineers is like what you just described.
	When there's a flooding happening, like they build the levees, they build the bridges, right?
	Trump literally is firing those people too.
	It's crazy.
	Why is he doing it?
	Is it because he hates the Army Corps of Engineers?
	No, because he doesn't give a shit.
	That's my point.
	He doesn't care.
	He's like, yeah, go, Elon, do whatever you need to do.
	Fire these probationary employees.
	Nobody knows what probationary means.
	So they think like, oh, you know, it's good.
	It's good that we're like downsizing a little bit.
	It's like, no, dude, you're going to start slowly but surely five years down the line, noticing, you're going to start noticing that things are just not working.
	Like air traffic control is a great example of this since the Reagan era.
	Like the numbers of air traffic controls, controllers, even though air traffic has increased, the number of air traffic controllers have not kept up with the increase of air traffic.
	So you got towers where there's like one dude.
	There's got to be like 30 dudes in that tower.
	I don't want the fucking plane.
	I don't want planes to crash.
	You know what I mean?
	Probably more of them have started to work in.
	If that's true, is there less FAA people?
	No, there's probably more FAA people, especially with like TSA and whatnot.
	But I'm saying that it hasn't matched up to the rate of air.
	Like there's more planes in the sky is what I'm saying.
	When there's more planes in the sky, you need more air traffic controls.
	We're cut.
	The FAA helps support an air safety union.
	President Donald Trump's administration has said no one at the federal FAA with a critical safety position has been fired as it cuts the federal workforce.
	Some FAA jobs were eliminated, had direct roles in supporting safety inspectors in airport operations, according to their union and former employees.
	This is another way that they lie, by the way.
	And Karen Bassett this with the LA Wildfires, where she was like, Oh, we didn't actually cut the LA FD budget.
	They did.
	They cut the support budget.
	But when you cut the support budget, yeah, sure, you're not cutting the actual firefighters, right?
	You're not reducing their numbers.
	But when you cut the support staff budget, you're cutting mechanics.
	When you cut the mechanics and your fucking fire engine is busted, you send it over and it just sits in a goddamn yard for months because now there's no fucking mechanics to fix the goddamn car.
	So all of a sudden, you're down one fire engine.
	It's all, it all works together.
	I'm curious to see because Trump's making, you know, and there's so many like executive orders and things right out of the gate.
	And there's so much focus on him by the media too.
	But I'm curious to see if some of these things turn out to help long term.
	There's no way.
	I'm hopeful that they are.
	Like I'm hopeful that, you know, if they're going to cut Medicare or Medicaid, that it's also because they're going to make price transparency from hospitals.
	Right.
	And so then there won't be, the expenses won't be as high, right?
	Like I'm hoping that there's some long-term strategy to a lot of his ideas.
	Like the same thing with Gaza and Israel.
	I don't know if there is.
	It seems, I don't like it.
	But I'm not sure.
	Trump is a major Israel dick rider.
	He's not, he's not changing that at all.
	I think you couldn't find 30 of these people that aren't, it feels like.
	Yeah, no, especially in the American government, it's really, really awful.
	Yeah.
	I want things to get better, and I hope it does.
	But the reason why I say I'm certain that it won't is because like of what you just mentioned, right?
	$800 billion of Medicare and Medicaid that they want to cut.
	Mike Johnson goes on stage, says I goes on Caitlin Collins on CNN and says, oh, there's a lot of fraud happening.
	There's not fraud happening in Medicare and Medicaid on the point of the recipient.
	It's happening on the point of the providers.
	And that's why I got banned recently on Twitch, yesterday, because Libs of Tech.
	That's how you got banned.
	Yesterday you just got back.
	Yeah, Libs of TikTok was like posting about how I said something and they misconstrued it as though it was a call to action to assassinate a sitting U.S. senator.
	Because I said to Mike Johnson, because I was listening to him back and forth, I said, like, if Mike Johnson actually cared about Medicare fraud, he would tackle Medicare fraud happening at the point of the providers.
	But it's obvious that he doesn't care about Medicare fraud because if he did care about Medicare fraud, he would break Scott, who is responsible for the historic $1.7 billion worth of Medicare fraud.
	And is he still working the— The DOJ came after him and he basically quit his job.
	He got a $10 million compensation package after doing $1.7 billion in Medicare.
	Medicare fraud in the private sector.
	He got $300 million in stock options.
	Didn't see a fucking moment of jail time for that.
	And then he became Florida governor and now he's a fucking Florida senator.
	And he's a prominent figure in the Republican Party.
	I think he was like their head of their fundraising or some shit.
	I forget what his position in the Trump campaign and the Republican Party is beyond the fact that he's a senator.
	I don't know if they should allow people to go from one to the other.
	From private to public.
	You know what I'm saying?
	Like, I just, because it just, obviously there's conflicts of interest when people do that sort of thing, you know?
	Oh, for sure.
	I mean, that's one aspect.
	But I agree with you.
	I agree.
	It's like.
	That guy should be in jail.
	Like, that's what I think.
	I think if you do $1.7 billion in Medicare fraud, you should be in fucking jail.
	Like, what are we talking about?
	I shouldn't be a Republican senator from Florida.
	Yeah, it says right here, Rick Scott's role in the Columbia HCA scandal.
	In 2003, Rick Scott's company, Columbia, HCA, the largest private hospital chain in the U.S., was found guilty of defrauding Medicare.
	The company was forced to pay $1.7 billion a settlement.
	That was the largest medical fraud fine in U.S. history at the time.
	Scott, who was the CEO, left the company with a $10 million severance package after the scandal.
	$300 million stock options, too.
	Wow.
	So do you start to wonder?
	So this was when he was in the private sector, right?
	Yeah.
	So it's, yeah, what's going to be different if a guy comes over from that private sector to the public sector?
	He's the richest congressperson, by the way.
	Is he really?
	Yeah.
	Fuck that, man.
	Give us some fucking money.
	I think people should only be able to have a certain amount of money.
	Yeah.
	I mean, look, I don't necessarily care about how much money people have.
	I care about how they make their money.
	But no, I agree.
	How does this guy, how do you keep?
	Like he's LeBron James, right?
	50,000 points.
	He crossed over that boundary.
	20 plus years of dominance in the league.
	He gets paid a wage.
	He's what is known as one of the few people that's like a wage billionaire, basically.
	If he makes that kind of money, that means he's making somebody else a fuck ton more money.
	Right.
	And I don't mind that he's getting paid these big bucks, partially because he's my goat and I love him.
	Okay.
	And I think he deserves it.
	But also partially because he's not making that by like hiring people and then forcing them to work to the bone.
	He does have businesses.
	He's also obviously an owner of capital as well.
	So he does capital accumulation as well.
	But ultimately, I just want people to be comfortable.
	And I think that if you are working a job, like you should be able to have a house.
	You should be able to live comfortably.
	And it doesn't matter what job it is.
	You could be picking up trash.
	I think that's still obviously valuable.
	It's worthwhile.
	Also, I guess sanitation is one of the worst examples because they do have pretty solid unions.
	Yeah, we had a garbage man on who's awesome, man.
	My buddy Wayne.
	He's got a podcast now called Trash Talk.
	But yeah, they do pretty well.
	But then what about LeBron's companies if they're buying shirts from another country?
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	And that labor there and those people, that guy's sleeping on a tricycle seat at night because he has to be at work again in the morning.
	So that part I that's what I'm saying.
	That part I don't agree with.
	But I'm saying if he was just making all of his money from just balling and he's getting a wage, like who cares?
	You know, I don't have an issue with that.
	Especially if the, hold on, I got to open my door.
	Sorry.
	I got FedEx at the door and it's raining.
	I feel bad.
	Oh, it's raining out there, huh?
	Yeah.
	All right.
	I got it.
	I did it.
	I did it.
	We brought him inside.
	We know who sent the rain in, probably too.
	What?
	The weather machine?
	Oh, the juice?
	You're going to say.
	You're going to say.
	I'm illegal.
	That's what I say.
	When the Jews come from me, I'll be like, I'm illegal.
	So see, like this is, uh, this is another example of like, you know, you could normal under normal circumstances, you can make this joke, but then like, then there's motherfuckers who really believe it when there's like dudes who are like, no, you're like, She wasn't saying Jews, but she was like, they have a weather machine.
	But imagine you're rich enough.
	Say you were rich enough, like Mike, not Mike Jones or whatever.
	That's that rapper, but I'm thinking of Bill Gates, right?
	If you had enough money, bro, you would fucking get it.
	And some guy's like, look, for one bill, I'll get you a weather machine.
	We'll get you the.
	I'd get that bitch in a heartbeat, dude.
	Imagine you're sitting at home, you're having your coffee, and you're like, all right, Detroit, fuck you guys.
	Here's seven inches right now, dude.
	Here's seven white inches.
	It's really the only way that freaking a white guy can give seven to ten white inches anymore is by pressing that weather button.
	This is Bill Gates pressing the weather button.
	He's pressing the weather button.
	But no, man, I think it's, would you have had Trump come on your show?
	But first of all, thankfully we can still joke around about stuff and we can have a sense of humor.
	Imagine if we didn't as individuals have a sense of humor.
	That would be.
	I agree with you.
	That would be the saddest.
	I agree with you.
	I love comedy.
	You know, Bill Burr is my GOAT.
	Yeah, dude.
	I think he is, you know, I mean, you're a comedian as well.
	I'm obviously very good friends with Stavi as well.
	I know you always link up with him.
	But the thing.
	He gave me some cookies his mother made.
	Oh, dude, me too.
	Yeah.
	When he was out here, I ate all of it.
	Oh, you didn't like them?
	No, I liked him.
	I'm just sad that they're bipartisan snacks he's sending out.
	But no, damn.
	No.
	It was so sweet of him.
	It was just only friend of mine that did that.
	Very sweet of him.
	Did he also...
	Did he also shill his fucking calendars, his naked calendars?
	Those shits have been sitting on my desk every time.
	I'll have like, bro, I'll have like, you know, prominent figures, like activists and shit at my house, and I'm interviewing them.
	Like, there was Motaza Zaiza.
	I'm interviewing him.
	He literally survived the genocide.
	He's a photojournalist from Gaza.
	And fucking Stavi's naked body is just sitting there on the fucking desk.
	I'm like, oh, my God.
	Like, it's fucked up.
	It's fucked up.
	Being friends with Stavi is fucked up.
	That's why you can't trust the Greeks.
	Yeah, dude.
	Bipartisanship on that front for sure.
	Do not trust these Greeks.
	Yeah, the third month of his calendar is Gorgon Zoller or whatever.
	I'm like, this seems like fucking.
	It was like January, February, March, April, Baklava, June, July.
	I'm like, that seems the other thing.
	Yeah.
	Stealing my people's food, saying it's his.
	Oh, that's right.
	Baklava's Turkish, bro.
	It's Turkish.
	We'll have to talk about that next time.
	Would you have Trump on if he would podcast?
	Talk to you.
	Do you feel like you're that far removed from getting to talk to guys like that?
	No.
	No, I mean, I've talked, well, I don't even know why.
	I talked to Bradley Martin multiple times after.
	I'm not above going on right-wing podcasts.
	I'm not above talking to people who have talked to Trump because I think I don't care about the partisanship angle of this at all.
	I want to be able to communicate to people exactly where the problems are and why people like Trump, just like people like Kamala, are not the perfect solution to any of these issues.
	And I would talk to Trump.
	I just don't think he would come on my stream.
	Cause he is, at the end of the day, he wants to go on a show where they're not going to push back too much.
	He wants to be humanized.
	And he wants to come across as a personality that is not devoid of charisma.
	And he's very telegenic.
	It was actually my turning point when I listened to him and you talk about cocaine when you were talking about doing Coke and he was like genuinely expressing interest in it.
	I was like, oh, fuck, this motherfucker is going to win, dude.
	This podcast shit is working so good.
	Because first he did the Aiden Ross thing and that was like a bit of a dud.
	Yeah, because that just like didn't work out at all.
	Cause it wasn't like a normal conversation.
	Well, it didn't feel, it felt kind of planned.
	Yeah.
	Like they wanted to do like a video, like something, like, let's do some social video.
	And I was like, I don't want to do something like that.
	Yeah, like the whole dancing and stuff in front of the Cybertruck with a photo of him.
	I didn't love that either.
	Like that stuff, it didn't work at all.
	But then I saw your podcast and I was like, oh my God, this motherfucker is going to win the goddamn presidency.
	But he didn't come.
	I mean, they didn't ask for any edits, you know?
	That was the thing.
	They didn't say like, we need to see this.
	They didn't fucking have, you guys have a good day.
	Yeah, but that's also because like you're not.
	But I'm also not a political guy.
	Yeah, this is a trap I fell into recently.
	Because you talked to Bernie Sanders like a week before, no?
	Yeah.
	That's what I mean.
	That's what I mean.
	So it's like you're not, you're not going to like hit him on shit.
	You're not going to hit him on like stuff that he has no answer for.
	Well, because I think my goal is to find, it's not a goal, but I just want to get to know people kind of, right?
	And I realized I fell in this trap recently.
	I thought that just because I had some political people on last year that I knew about politics, I do not.
	That was a trap.
	Even my own ego was like, oh, maybe I know something about politics.
	I don't know shit.
	Now I have some ideas.
	I know what it feels like to be kind of like I feel like just a pretty regular person.
	And then I don't know.
	I try to find empathy here and there and figure things out.
	But I'm learning a lot.
	I've definitely learned a lot more than I knew two years ago for sure.
	But then to think that I like, you know, I have to be careful not to like smoke moan nuts or whatever it's called where it's like you just believe, you know, just because I had some politics on now I'm fucking, you know, Jim Rome or somebody or, you know, like a politic, you know, I'm like Malcolm X. Malcolm X. Malcolm X, yeah.
	Malcolm X. Yeah.
	So, yeah, but anyway, but no, dude, I like your attitude.
	I like your charisma.
	I like that.
	I wanted to talk a little bit more about.
	I know you have a program where you like try to co-op and put money back into things that mean something to you.
	My podcast is a cooperative corporation, so like everyone has equal say, equal pay.
	And there's different formations of that.
	Like you don't have to make it equal pay, but I just thought it would be the best possible way to go about it.
	But it's most importantly, aside from the equal pay, the equal say part is really important.
	We get together and if someone has an obligation, they're not showing up, it's fine.
	We make through.
	We figure it out as we go along.
	And I think that's how you get the most successful business, like for sure.
	That's something that I stand by.
	And we still obviously have to hire contractors every now and then, too.
	Yeah, for sure.
	And we could get together another time and talk about business strategy and things like that.
	I think it'd be interesting.
	But yeah, I just wanted to just.
	Then, yeah, we do a lot of fundraising.
	Like the other day, I had the no other land, the Palestinians who made a documentary about their lives.
	Yeah, I had them.
	No, we tried to get them.
	I had them on my house.
	They rolled up deep.
	They had like 10 people.
	The whole family was there.
	Dude, no other friends.
	That's what I'd say.
	What the fuck do we invite two of you guys?
	Yeah, I mean, they also straight up came from occupied Palestinian territory.
	Like they flew into America and we were chilling.
	We were just talking about their experiences.
	And I interviewed them.
	And then in the process, like the organization that actually brought them here, who works with a lot of Palestinians on the ground, like they were like, oh, can you share this link to fundraise?
	So I did.
	And in the hour-long interview that we did, we fundraised $100,000.
	Now it's sitting at $135,000.
	But that's the type of stuff that I love being able to do because I feel so powerless a lot of times when I see all of this death and destruction.
	And I feel like it's a meaningful way to be able to help, to actively fundraise.
	It gives myself and a lot of people that watch me the opportunity to say like, at least we're trying to do something, anything.
	You know what I mean?
	So I try to do that to the best of my ability.
	We've fundraised for Palestinian aid organizations to the tune of, I think, like almost more than $3 million at this point since October 7. Wow.
	Yeah.
	Dude, yeah.
	No, I appreciate even saying that because I think that's something I need to hear more about.
	It's on my brain and heart a lot.
	We started a foundation last year, but haven't started to figure out like what to do with the money or what exactly to do, you know?
	Like I would like to create a business that like, like I thought about like water, like you're selling water, but the money goes towards rehab for people that suffer from opioid addiction, you know, that sort of thing.
	Just so it's like using something that everybody needs, but finally the proceeds, it only goes towards this thing.
	There's not even a profit.
	You know, it's like, this is what it's for.
	Yeah, yeah.
	But I need to be more.
	I've done that in the past too.
	Like my, like I have merch and it's U.S. made, union made.
	And obviously the margins are incredibly slim for that reason.
	American Giant?
	Is that Du Does your merch or no?
	Is it?
	No, it's Bayside is my garment manufacturer, my garment provider.
	It's one of the only union shops that is a garment manufacturer in the country that can like keep up with the demand that we have because there's a shit ton of people that are buying these t-shirts.
	And sometimes I'll just like I will fundraise like by saying all the proceeds, like every single point of profit is directly going to a labor union.
	Like we I gave the Amazon labor union, I think it was like $170,000 or something like that off of just that.
	We fundraise like, I think.
	Or from Amazon Packaging?
	The Amazon labor union, yeah.
	Like the people that work at the distribution facilities.
	Another thing I did this past year was for, I don't know how to say the name correctly, but Raises.
	It's an organization that works with undocumented migrants in Texas specifically.
	And they give them, you know, translators and lawyers and, you know, they pay for lawyer fees and stuff like that.
	So I'm actively working on fundraising initiatives like that because I feel like there's a lot of stories that don't get told in mainstream media.
	That's why I interviewed the incarcerated firefighters that were combating the wildfires in L.A. You know, there's prisoners that fight wildfires, right?
	Oh, they send prisoners out to fight them.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	And there's like a training program and stuff.
	I'm working with an organization to go and actually see them at their prison, their training camp.
	Fuck yeah, dude.
	That's so creative, man.
	Yeah, that's a, yeah, I'm glad you say these things.
	Because, yeah, it's just stuff that I can remember to try to focus more on.
	Yeah, because everybody, that's the crazy thing.
	It's like everybody at every point of something, most people need support, right?
	Or they need some type of support.
	They need an ear.
	They need a blanket.
	They need a mouthful of, or they need a friend.
	You know, every, it's, there's a lot of ways to be a part of the world, you know?
	Yeah.
	And always to try and find a corner where you can express care.
	Hassan Piker, thanks so much, dude.
	I'd love to chat again sometime.
	I know we didn't get to cover, you know, some stuff we did, but I just appreciate it, man.
	I think, yeah, I just think it's important, too, that people just get together and talk about stuff, you know?
	I wish I'd have been able to kind of like have probably some stronger political conversations with you.
	Some of that stuff I don't have as strong of a knowledge base in.
	But I admire you, dude.
	And I admire the way you operate.
	And I really appreciate your time today.
	All right.
	Thanks for having me, man.
	This sounds great.
	I'm sorry if you have streamed for so long, too, dude.
	No, I love it.
	The things that I just told you in the last three minutes is exactly why I love what I do because I have a giant community with a big heart.
	and i think that that is what makes everything worth it because like i said there's there will there will be people uh swearing up and down that i'm the worst person that you've ever uh that you've ever met no matter where i go uh there it's just noise is mostly people that are online that doesn't like translate to real world experiences at all but um in spite of all of that in spite of like people constantly working to actively smear me to say i'm anti-semitic or
	i love terrorism or whatever the fuck with clips out of context and all this shit at the end of the day i get to make an impact and that's how i see sleep soundly at night you know yeah where i where i know that uh all of this is worth it why did jewish friend recommend you to me who's the jewish friend that recommended the podcast and they said do not name them oh damn no they didn't that part i made up but um i would just protect their anonymity but it's just you know i'm saying like just just it's like people i
	think people i don't know we're all trying i think yeah i have a neat community too that i feel like wants to do stuff that's important in the world and we're all trying to figure out how you know um but yeah i i just i see that light in you man and um i appreciate you coming and sharing your time with us today i really do all right thanks for having me you bet man now i'm just floating on the breeze and i feel i'm falling like these leaves i must be cornerstone oh but

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