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E549 Koe Wetzel

Koe Wetzel is a country singer and songwriter originally from Pittsburg, Texas. His latest album “9 Lives” was released earlier this year, and his new Christmas EP “Wetzel’s Wonderland Chapter 2” is also streaming now everywhere. Koe Wetzel joins Theo to talk about growing up in Texas as a wild child with strict parents, how he developed such a unique and raw relationship with his fans, his reputation for partying, and who he sees as the modern day outlaws of country music. Koe Wetzel: https://www.instagram.com/koe_wetzel/ ------------------------------------------------ Tour Dates! https://theovon.com/tour New Merch: https://www.theovonstore.com ------------------------------------------------- Sponsored By: Celsius: Go to the Celsius Amazon store to check out all of their flavors. #CELSIUSBrandPartner #CELSIUSLiveFit https://amzn.to/3HbAtPJ Prize Picks: First time users, download the PrizePicks app, use code THEO and PrizePicks will instantly give you $50 on your first lineup of $5 or more. https://www.prizepicks.com/ BlueChew: Go to http://bluechew.com to try BlueChew FREE - just pay $5 shipping at checkout. Tommy John: Go to http://tommyjohn.com/theo to get 25% off your first order. ------------------------------------------------- Music: “Shine” by Bishop Gunn Bishop Gunn - Shine ------------------------------------------------ Submit your funny videos, TikToks, questions and topics you'd like to hear on the podcast to: tpwproducer@gmail.com Hit the Hotline: 985-664-9503 Video Hotline for Theo Upload here: https://www.theovon.com/fan-upload Send mail to: This Past Weekend 1906 Glen Echo Rd PO Box #159359 Nashville, TN 37215 ------------------------------------------------ Find Theo: Website: https://theovon.com Instagram: https://instagram.com/theovon Facebook: https://facebook.com/theovon Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/thispastweekend Twitter: https://twitter.com/theovon YouTube: https://youtube.com/theovon Clips Channel: https://www.youtube.com/c/TheoVonClips Shorts Channel: https://bit.ly/3ClUj8z ------------------------------------------------ Producer: Zach https://www.instagram.com/zachdpowers Producer: Ben https://www.instagram.com/benbeckermusic/ Producer: Nick https://www.instagram.com/realnickdavis/ Producer: Cam https://www.instagram.com/cam__george/ Producer: Colin https://instagram.com/colin_reiner Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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	I have some new tour dates to let you know about.
	I'll be in East Lansing.
	I'll be in Toledo, Ohio, Rama, Ontario in the Canada.
	Pittsburgh, PA, Eugene, Oregon, Kennewick, Washington, Seattle, Washington, Victoria, B.C. in the Canada.
	College Station, Texas, Belton, Texas, San Antonio, Durant, Amarillo, Oxford, Mississippi, Fayetteville, Arkansas, Tuscaloosa, Alabama, Rollad.
	And Tallahassee, Florida.
	Rosemont, Illinois, Winnipeg, and Calgary in the Canada.
	Get all your tickets at theovon.com slash T-O-U-R.
	Thank you so much for your support.
	And thank you to the fella in Montana that give me this jacket.
	Got some Indian artifacts on the back.
	And just want to say thank you.
	I really like this jacket.
	We've also got some new merch, some new gang gang teas in pepper and ivory.
	And we've got a new gang gang hat that giggity.
	Check those out and more at TheovanStore.com.
	Happy holidays to everyone.
	Today's guest has never been afraid to speak his mind.
	He has been a staple in country music and in Texas lore for many years.
	He's having a great year right now with his new album, Nine Lives.
	It's country, it's rock, it's grunge.
	It's him.
	He's got a new Christmas EP, Wetzel's Wonderland, Chapter 2, out now.
	And I'm just grateful to spend time today and to catch up with him.
	Today's guest is Mr. Coe Wetzel.
	I'm on the stage.
	I shouldn't be allowed to fucking be alive.
	You ever feel like that?
	You ever feel like that really, dude?
	I mean, I should not be allowed to be alive, dude.
	I just...
	Yeah, you ever just burn so many bridges down, you can't even take a step.
	You burn.
	It's not even bridges.
	You burn down just regular flooring.
	Yeah.
	Ceiling, everything.
	Carpet.
	I mean, I'll just turn a wreck.
	Everything's a chimney when I come around someday when I'm like that.
	You want those beers, Bubba?
	Or 100 or anything?
	You can have whatever you want.
	Yeah, I'll, yeah, if you don't mind a couple of those booths.
	Yeah, I'm just damn.
	It's just, you know, yeah, everything's fine.
	It just went, you know, if I get into, you know.
	You think it's kind of like with the holidays and shit coming up, too?
	It doesn't help.
	Yeah, yeah, for sure.
	And there's a lot of little things to do and suddenly a lot of just feeling like a little responsibilities.
	And then everything kind of has a...
	Sometimes I just got to hit an AA meeting or something or fucking drink a damn eight ball, dude.
	Dude, I'm glad they didn't come down with eight ball the beverage or whatever.
	They did a Celsius.
	I'd have been on them bitches, man.
	Co Wetzel, man, congrats on the new album, dude.
	Thank you, man.
	I appreciate it.
	Wow.
	Shit kind of popped off, huh?
	Yeah, well, you've been working so hard.
	People don't think about that.
	Yeah, everybody, it's the overnight success shit.
	And I don't know, they don't see the 10 years, 10 plus years, you know.
	We've been grinding it out for a while.
	It's good to know.
	And all the places you've played, every place they would allow someone to play, really.
	For real, though, man.
	Like, we would.
	I mean, you'll play.
	I've seen, yeah.
	Yeah.
	Trailers on the back of like semis, behind chicken wire.
	Oh, I've seen places where like tomorrow this place is getting fumigated, right?
	They'll already be setting up the tent around it with the bug spray in it.
	And it's like, but tonight, go wrestle, baby.
	Big lights, right?
	We had, dude, there was this one run that we had.
	It was, it was probably the third year.
	It's probably 2013, 14. And it was like, we were playing VFWs and like firehouses and stuff.
	Well, there was like three, three places that we played.
	And within two months, I don't know if it was tax reasons or what, but all of them fucking burned down.
	So it was like a thing.
	Like, co-us is coming to town.
	Get your extinguishers ready, man.
	He's about to burn this bitch down, literally.
	Dude, it was almost like that white snake memorial tour, kind of.
	That's how it was, man.
	And it was kind of a joke around East Texas, but it was legit.
	It was always a VFW or a little cash grab or something.
	It was kind of a sketchy place, you know, and then you get in there and it's like, did you hear that place burned down last night?
	I was like, what?
	You're like, what do you, we just left.
	Like, I think we still have some drunks in there.
	Bro, you can smell the kerosene as you pull it off down the road.
	They're just in the bags pulling wires and shit.
	I was electrical fired.
	Oh, bro.
	Oh, yeah.
	Nothing like a good scam, though.
	Dude, I'm telling you.
	Nothing like a good.
	Gets you out of a pinch.
	You're talking about getting your day back to brighter, man.
	Getting a little government money, man.
	Oh, we had a dude who had bought a bunch of, he made a bunch of 4th of July t-shirts, right?
	Okay.
	And they didn't get in until they basically got in like on the night before.
	They supposed to come in like two weeks early.
	And it was a business plan this guy had.
	And so on 4th of July, he's like, I have basically eight or nine hours to pedal these bitches.
	So he got, he was out there with a bike with a little wagon.
	He was pulling like it was supposed to have a child in it or something, but it was just full of these 4th of July shirts.
	And he was out there Just slanging them bitches, and he only got rid of about maybe 17 of them.
	So he had about maybe 420 shirts left or whatever.
	What do you do with them?
	Here's what he did: he set them on fire, right?
	But he did it near a fireworks display, and he said that some of the fireworks had landed in them.
	Hey, man, that's kind of respect the hustle.
	That's great.
	That's awesome.
	It was a great idea, man.
	He's got a lot.
	I bet he had a lot of great ideas.
	I mean, maybe is he still around?
	Where should he come from?
	He's an idea, man.
	I would say that.
	Absolutely.
	He's an idea, man.
	Yeah, man, you're playing some different venues now.
	So that's kind of changed, huh?
	Has it?
	Yeah, I mean, we've been doing arenas for the last two or three years, but it's just kind of to a bigger scale, I guess.
	I mean, definitely got newer fans.
	With this record, we kind of tapped into the mainstream kind of side of it, I guess.
	You know, we've always been independent.
	And, I mean, I guess, you know, coming out of Texas, I mean, you could tour Texas year-round, you know, and make a damn good living.
	And it's pretty much what we've been doing.
	But, you know, over the last probably five years, you know, we've got out of Texas and got to play these crazy arenas and stuff.
	And, yeah, man, it's been a while.
	I mean, we've been blessed.
	Fans have just come out of the woodworks, man.
	And it's cool to have people, you know, fuck with the music, man.
	Fuck with what you're telling them, man.
	And I don't know.
	It's been a while.
	It's kind of...
	But it's wild, man.
	Yeah.
	Well, yeah, I mean, I think there's a lot of that energy out of Texas where it's just like that, you know, we'll figure it out.
	And Texas really supports their own a lot.
	Yeah, for sure.
	You know, it's the same with guys like Parker over the years.
	And I mean, Texas has their own thing.
	They always have.
	You know, they support their own.
	Very, very proud people, man.
	And, you know, it's just such a cult following, you know, and we've been blessed to have those cult fan base, that fan base for so long.
	Is there like co-beef between like people, you know, like new fans and old fans?
	I mean, you feel like?
	Maybe a little bit, but I mean, like I said, they're so passionate and they're so like co-fans that, you know, I think they've responded.
	I was kind of curious as to how they're going to take this new music that we put out.
	I mean, they came on with it.
	I think they dug it.
	Just, you know, because we haven't really veered off from the shit we've been doing our whole, you know, whole career.
	Yeah, do you feel weird?
	Do you feel like, is there a part of you that feels like, because I get like, if I have to do something that feels kind of mainstreamy to me sometimes, it makes me fucking anxious.
	Yeah, yeah.
	I don't, man, not really.
	Because like I said earlier, you know, I'm still doing the same shit.
	It's just more, I guess, on a bigger scale, kind of more, I don't know, kind of expected.
	You know what I mean?
	Like to do all these interviews and, you know, just kind of get your story out there.
	So, I mean, it used to be, you know, get fucked up, go play music, and that was it.
	You know, write music, throw down, party with everybody.
	And now it's kind of, all right, let's take a step back and calm everything down a little bit, you know?
	Yeah.
	Oh, yeah, dude.
	Yeah, your TikToks, you guys would be just fucked up out there eating dandelions and shit or just adopting animals.
	I mean, you guys are doing a lot for nature and everything out there.
	Everything, man.
	Do you have to slow it down a little bit?
	Have you had to a little?
	This tour, we definitely did.
	So last year's tour was the El Paso tour, and it was balls to the wall.
	Like it was, it was insane, bro.
	Like, it was too much, honestly.
	I'm surprised somebody died.
	But we had a couple folks go to jail.
	But other than that, I mean, it was just chaos the whole time.
	And then this year with the damn near normal tour, they kind of like caged me a little bit.
	So after every show, it was direct to the bus and then the cop escort out.
	Like they wouldn't let me go out and party and stuff, which was great.
	I mean, the tour was great and stuff.
	But I felt like they were trying to settle me down a little bit.
	Because, I mean, like I said, it's just kind of on a bigger scale than anybody kind of expected it to be.
	Yeah, you got more responsibilities the next day.
	You got to actually be there.
	And, you know, I felt a whole lot better this tour and the shows were better in my opinion.
	But yeah, I mean, I guess it's got to grow up sometime, man.
	It sucks, huh?
	It sucks, man.
	It sucks getting old.
	It sucks having to grow up.
	Grow up.
	And it's not even getting old.
	Oh, you can stay young and just be an old dude.
	Like, damn, that old dude is.
	It's like the FOMO, though.
	Like the fear, like, you know, like whenever it's just like you reminisce of all the good times, like, damn, man, that'd be fun to do tonight.
	You know, we should do that tonight.
	Oh, yeah.
	It's nothing.
	Oh, dude, going to bed early and laying there and just feeling like just even God knows you're a little bitch.
	That's the saddest part, dude.
	Getting into bed early.
	You're like, oh, I'm doing it.
	And then you kind of get ready and be like, oh, I start to feel a little bit bad.
	You're like, ah, you know what?
	And then you wake up next morning.
	I feel like whenever you wake up next morning, you're like, you know what?
	Good on you.
	Yeah.
	Fuck yeah, man.
	Oh, yeah.
	That's a, yeah, that's like, you got a little oomph in your chest.
	It's like, hey, man.
	Yeah.
	A natural oomph and not just where your heart's just burned out from running overtime.
	Dude, I remember when I first met you, I was like, because I was like, I don't know if I just gotten like re-sober or something at the time.
	Re-sober is a good word.
	Re-sober, yeah, that's pretty cool.
	I never heard that word.
	I never said that word before.
	Re-sober.
	Re-sobered.
	But I never got, and I remember I met you and I was like, I got to be careful around that guy because I remember that time.
	It was that Whiskey Jam, right?
	Was it Whiskey Jam?
	I remember.
	Losers?
	It might have been with Todd, with Todd, with Todd Graves.
	Graves, yeah.
	It could have been the Super Bowl.
	Remember, it was at that suite or something?
	Dude, I was sober for three weeks going up there.
	And then we're sitting in the suite with Todd.
	And like, me and Dre have been sober or whatever.
	And we're like, if we can make it through Super Bowl weekend, dude, we are, you know, we're killing it.
	And I'm sitting there and Cersei from Lord of the Fucking Ring, or not Lord of the Rings, Game of Thrones walks in.
	I'm like, was that Cersei?
	And they're like, yeah, that's one of the Jonas brothers, too.
	I was like, holy shit, you know, and so.
	Yeah, you got to play that game every time you see a Jonas brother.
	I was like, yeah.
	I was like, vodka soda, please.
	And dude, we got, I mean, it was like 11 in the morning.
	And, you know, you got all these actors and musicians.
	And Coach O walks in from LSU.
	He's like, hey, what's going on, Cuz?
	You're doing all right.
	You're doing all right, bro.
	I'm like, yeah, I'm good, man.
	Like, what do you think about your boy?
	Oh, he got us sold up.
	He's got it sold up.
	Yeah, that's when Burrow was playing the Super Bowl.
	I was like, this dude's fucking awesome, you know?
	This dude's been eating eight balls, too.
	Burrow, he just and just rolling around, man, just having a great time.
	And so, I mean, we hammered him all day.
	We get to the game, and I mean, it's just like that red carpet.
	People were showing up, coming in.
	Like, dude, I can't handle this shit.
	This is too much.
	Yeah, everybody was in there.
	P.D. Pablo, I think, was in there.
	Dude, Jack Harlow, Fritz Montana.
	I mean, it was just one after the other.
	And, you know, me being from Small East Texas, I was like, what the fuck?
	Oh, yeah.
	That was wild.
	That was crazy.
	There was a lot of fancy folks in there, too, dude.
	I wanted to fucking rob some of those fucking queers or whatever.
	And I don't know, you can't say queers, but said over to me, we didn't say it.
	But yeah, dude.
	And I just, yeah, I was like, because I was just trying to, I was just getting back on the grill or whatever.
	And I was like, I got to fucking.
	Well, I think one of the times I met you, it was at Whiskey Jam, I think.
	And we were sitting there, each other, and we were like, yeah, man, fans, fan of each other, whatever.
	And I remember you were like, there was a step right above me to what Muscadine Bloodline was playing.
	And you were like, you trying to go up?
	And I was like, I was like, yeah, let's go.
	And I was like, you want to go to the bathroom right here?
	You were like, wait, what?
	I was like, and I had a little in my pocket.
	I was like, you were like, no, the step to watch.
	I was like, oh, oh, shit.
	And I didn't know you were sober.
	I remember that.
	Yeah, I was kind of perched up in the back.
	You trying to get up?
	Yeah.
	Hell yeah.
	Let's go right now.
	You're like, no.
	Damn, brother.
	Well, look, I appreciate the, hey, I do appreciate the support.
	Yeah, hey, man, I was, my bad, that was, that was on me.
	Dude, I want somebody to fucking want to get me fucked up, dude.
	I want somebody to just hold me down and just fucking just damn funnel just yay into my brain, homie.
	You know what I'm saying?
	But those are, you know, that's Christmas wishing, you know.
	Let me talk about your new album.
	So the new album's nine lives.
	Right.
	And when have you burned a couple of your lives?
	Like, was there a night or two over the time?
	Because I'm trying to think.
	We had, let me think of a good night that happened to me one time.
	Oh, dude, a guy overdosed or whatever one time and people were doing CPR on him.
	I'm like, he doesn't need fucking CPR.
	Was anybody, could they even do CPR?
	I mean, they were just trying.
	They're just trying.
	His chest was already doing its own CPR.
	I'm like, that dude is just geeked out of his door, bro.
	You need to hit him with that fucking man.
	That's Narcaniel Johnson.
	You need to hit him with that.
	Somebody hit him with an EpiPen.
	Yes, we Narcan.
	Yeah, somebody hit him with an EpiPen.
	Like he had a B-sting or something.
	I'm like, this dude got stung by an eight-ball.
	This dude got stung.
	He's by a reaction for sure.
	This dude got stung by a warm gram, and they're trying to put damn peptobismol in him.
	People are fucking unbelievable.
	Hey, man, people start freaking out like that.
	She gets hairy, and especially if you tore up like that, you don't know what the fuck's going to happen.
	So it's kind of like...
	Oh, well, everybody starts.
	I think I'm going to have one myself.
	Y'all start doing that shit to me.
	Oh, dude, I see somebody do a Narcan.
	I'll hit one.
	Yeah.
	Do you always feel like you had to party so much?
	Where does that come from, you think?
	Is that just, did you grow up partying?
	Yeah, not real.
	I mean, I never felt like I had to.
	It was just, man, I like to have a good time.
	My whole family likes to have a good time, man.
	So it's just kind of whenever I got, so my parents were pretty strict with me growing up, you know, because they knew the only way I was going to get out of Pittsburgh was to, you know, on a scholarship or whatever.
	And that's Pittsburgh, Texas.
	Pittsburgh, Texas, yeah.
	And so, like, they were really strict on me.
	And so once I got to college, dude, it was like boss the law.
	Like, no pants, you know, get to college and just hammer down, man.
	And it just, I don't know, I guess it kind of just snowballed.
	And I don't know.
	I can drink with the best of them.
	And I don't know.
	It's a great time, man.
	And I've slowed down a whole lot, you know, this past couple years, but I still have to get out there and act up a little bit.
	Yeah.
	Wow.
	I can't believe that's you slowed down.
	It's great, though.
	I was envious of people that could party, man, because I couldn't do it.
	I'd get a little too rattled and I'd just start fucking chewing on the fucking walls and shit.
	You know, I'd just start fucking farming copper out of my own house, dude.
	You know, I get this.
	I couldn't handle it, dude.
	I'd call the cops on myself a bunch of times.
	That's fucked up.
	That's partying, though.
	I mean, that's hardcore shit.
	Hey, that's some partying.
	I don't think I've ever called the cops on myself before.
	That's wild.
	Oh, yeah, dude.
	I'll call them bitches, huh?
	Oh, dude, I call the cops for anything, dude.
	I see, yeah.
	I remember I was at a UFC fight one night, and the guys were beating each other so bad, and I fucking called the cops right there from T-Mobile Arena.
	It was Dustin Poirier and Max Holloway were beating the shit out of each other.
	I said, Y'all got to get down here and quick.
	Yeah, I said, y'all got a male-on-male domestic down here.
	Oh, my God, bro.
	That's what I said.
	I said, these guys are fighting over jewelry down here because I think Winner got the belt.
	Oh, really?
	So I was like, you got a male-on-male domestic down here, but you guys need to send somewhere.
	Need to figure this shit out quick.
	Dana, what are you doing?
	Yeah, why the title nine lives, man?
	Oh, man, it was kind of, so the record was kind of like us kind of doing a new music that we're not known for.
	You know, usually it's the party music, the crazy rock stuff.
	So this was just kind of the past, the other lives that I could have lived had I not been a musician, you know, or traveled down this road.
	So it's kind of just like a reflection on that.
	And I don't know, man.
	It's kind of one of those things.
	Yeah, and I read that you wrote it pretty quick, like when it finally hit you.
	Most of the songs came really quick, man.
	Like Gabe Simon, he always says it was like my first therapy session.
	Damn.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Yeah.
	Cool dude.
	But he like dug into my life, like into my soul.
	It was like bringing out shit that I normally never tell like a stranger, you know, and he just dug into it, man, and and it helped write the songs really fast, honestly.
	So, no, yeah, I don't know, man.
	The songs came out great, you know, it was one of the more vulnerable songs for me for sure.
	Yeah, for sure.
	You know, I mean, it was just like it was more raw and real than I feel like I'd ever been playing music.
	So, so yeah, it was kind of like kind of turning a new page on, you know, not leaving the party behind, but just kind of me kind of growing up type shit.
	Damn.
	Fuck, dude.
	All right.
	It sucks, dude.
	All the good ones grow up.
	I know.
	You're going to see me in the jail log tomorrow?
	I go to the red door or something tonight.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Oh, man.
	Man.
	Yeah, dude.
	A lot of all the good ones grow up, man.
	Yeah, they've had that term.
	Yeah, because there's like, I mean, I love Jesse Murph.
	I've been a Jesse Murph fan since before I should admit as an adult male.
	It was like, very strange to tell people that you were a fan.
	Well, she's got the soul of like a 50-year-old, I feel like, or 60-year-old.
	80. It's insane.
	I remember whenever I first heard her, I was like, wait, how old is it?
	And she was probably 17, 18. And I was like, wait, what?
	And she's such a baller, man.
	Like, she walks in the room and it's just like her presence is so huge.
	And she's just, and she's just this little dude thing, dude, you know?
	But amazing, amazing artist.
	She's a fucking grenade.
	Dude.
	She's insane.
	And she's got that look in her eyes like she's just seen it all a million times.
	Sure.
	That's what I'm saying.
	She's like reincarnated, bro.
	She's like, yeah, she got it.
	She got it going on.
	Yeah, she might be a refurb or whatever they call it, you know?
	Yeah, hell yeah.
	God.
	Oh, God, y'all are beautiful.
	And I mean both of you, too.
	I do want to say it like that.
	No, she's so talented, man.
	That song gets stuck in my head, too, man.
	That high road gets stuck in my head.
	I'll just be doing nothing or doing something that'll come out of it.
	Remember, where were we at?
	I'm getting the Ivy.
	I'm hungover as shit.
	Oh, yeah.
	And I'm just like, I was kind of watching the football game, and I hear you coming down singing high road.
	I was like, Jesus Christ.
	Oh, man.
	And it was like, what were we doing?
	What was the stuff?
	Huh?
	The NAD.
	NAD.
	Oh, yeah.
	Remember, we were talking about it.
	You were like doing however many milligrams.
	Oh, yeah.
	And I was doing like 75 or 100.
	And I'm over there about to die.
	I just hear you coming down singing high road.
	And I'm like, God, shut up, please.
	Oh, man.
	It's just wild when you get one that gets stuck in your head.
	Yeah, for sure.
	And you wake up singing it and you can't get.
	Yeah, it's just all day deal.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, man.
	It's wild, man.
	What have I been watching?
	I was watching that John Benet Rams.
	Do you see that stuff?
	I haven't seen it.
	Is it on Netflix?
	Yeah.
	I saw it.
	I haven't watched it yet.
	It's like rehabashing, whatever happened in the past, you know?
	Yeah.
	Is it kind of like who did it?
	Are they still on that?
	Yeah, the dad, though, will now be interviewed.
	The dad is in it.
	Okay.
	I don't know shit.
	Yeah.
	And the dad, I think that the dad, this is just a belief of mine.
	I believe that the dad had had some kind of inappropriate attraction to the child, maybe.
	I don't know if I can legally say that or not.
	It's just my belief.
	And the mother had been envious of that.
	The mother unalived, you have to say unalive now.
	Oh, really?
	Unalive to the child.
	You can't say the other stuff.
	Yeah, they'll take us down.
	Really?
	The mother unalive the child, and then they together figured out the story, right?
	And neither one of them could rat the other one out because they both had some connection.
	I think he'd been appropriate.
	The mother got envious, put the daughter, it was in all these pageants, all this weird stuff.
	The mother did it on purpose or accident, and then they both had to help each other cover it up.
	Did she, was she ever, she never served Ty or anything, did she?
	What?
	The mom?
	She never served time.
	No, she ended up passing away of cancer, I believe.
	I don't know shit.
	I don't think I'm thinking of the same.
	There's another one.
	I mean, Casey Anthony.
	Casey Anthony.
	She lives here, I heard.
	Really?
	Yeah.
	What?
	Where does Casey Anthony live?
	You got to get her out to a show, dude.
	I don't know about that one, bro.
	Jesus.
	But did she serve Tom?
	I don't know.
	Let me see.
	Casey, where's Casey Anthony now?
	That's a great question.
	No, wait.
	She's just in Nashville on Broadway every night.
	Jeez.
	Leave them Broadway girls alone.
	That's what she's saying, which is a little morose for her to sing.
	Where does it say she lives?
	You see anything on there?
	Moved to Murphy'sborough, Tennessee.
	Where the fuck is that?
	I mean, it sounds like it's close.
	Yeah, it's got to be closed.
	Wow.
	Man.
	Did they have any good big criminals in y'all's town?
	Any big crime going up over there in Pittsburgh, Texas?
	They said the Texas Chainsaw Massacre came through town, but, you know, who knows?
	Yeah, that could have just been all.
	Yeah, I mean, he could have been going through.
	That could have been a guy just repairing two-stroke motors, too.
	You know what I'm saying?
	He's still living in Pittsburgh, bro.
	Honestly, he probably is.
	I think I know who it is, too.
	No, they said Bonnie and Clyde came through and one of the sheriffs there, I mean, Pittsburgh was, I mean, it's still, it's only like 4,000 people.
	But they said they called them ahead of time or let them know somehow via pigeon or some shit.
	And they were like, hey, get the fuck out.
	We're coming through.
	If you want to live, just get out of all that.
	And Bonnie and Clyde were coming?
	Yeah, and they rolled through and then nobody gave them shit.
	Because they hit out in, are they from Dallas?
	Hey, or somewhere.
	Where's Bonnie and Clyde from?
	Let's get a look at them.
	Pretty sure.
	Oak Cliff, South Oak Cliff.
	Hey.
	Bonnie was the looker, I think.
	Yeah, she was a smoke.
	Let's see.
	Let's get a look at him.
	Get a look at him.
	Let's see images there.
	Bonnie and Clyde.
	Oh, did you watch that one with Emil Hirsch?
	Uh-oh, is it good?
	Oh, dude.
	Yeah, it's like a three-part series.
	Ooh, I got to watch that.
	Oh, bro.
	It's so good.
	Ooh, yeah, Bonnie.
	Back in the day, dude?
	You bet.
	Bro, she looks good even in that picture.
	I think Clyde would, he was a little bitty dude, too.
	Oh, my God.
	Oh, there they are.
	Imagine taking those pictures back in the day, dude.
	Like, hey, I'm going to hold this to you.
	Get over there with the photo, like the picture.
	Yeah, and a smoke comes out of it.
	It must have felt like Satan was doing it.
	It goes off and like pull the trigger.
	Yeah, they fucked him up.
	Look at that.
	That was in Ambush.
	Benville Parish, I think.
	On the Louisiana highway, and they still have that car.
	Where was that at?
	I think it was in Bienville Parish.
	Oh, yeah, that sounds about right.
	Yeah, it is a parish over there.
	It's been 90 years since a posse of lawmen caught up with the outlaw couple, Bonnie and Clyde.
	They were ambushed and killed on a North Louisiana road, but their story is still very much alive.
	In Gibbsland, Louisiana is where it occurred at.
	Bonnie and Clyde.
	What kind of pieces of history is Bonnie and Clyde?
	What was their biggest heist?
	What was Bonnie and Clyde's biggest heist, I wonder?
	Where are you from, Louisiana?
	I'm from Covington, Louisiana.
	We didn't have anything.
	Covington.
	Lee Harvey Oswald went to our middle school.
	That was our big thing.
	Damn.
	That's pretty big.
	The gang robbed the first National Bank in Stewart, Iowa in 1934.
	They did some kidnapping.
	Kidnapping?
	I didn't know that.
	But it says kidnapping of a man and woman.
	Oh, that's not getting out of me.
	Yeah, just making friends, dude.
	And some car theft.
	Damn, they weren't even as bad as some of these Travis Scott fans, I feel like.
	You need to watch that.
	It's like a three-part series.
	If you like Emil Hurst, I love Emil Hurst.
	Oh, yeah.
	it's great, man.
	But they kind of went through their whole...
	Yeah, that'd be, I wonder if I could do a good crime.
	Do you like the history, like the gangsters and stuff, like Dillinger and all that shit?
	Yeah.
	That's something Alley, man.
	Babyface, Pretty Boy Floyd and all that.
	Oh, yeah.
	Remember, well, they used to have that.
	What was that movie that had all those guys in it?
	Public Enemy.
	Yeah.
	That was good.
	A lot of good actors.
	Dude, yeah, I wonder if I could be a good criminal or not.
	What kind of crime I would do?
	I wouldn't do kidnapping because I don't want some dumb fucking kid around.
	That'd be annoying as fuck.
	Yeah, and you're like, and you have to, what?
	Then you're like, and also you're going to get caught.
	You're going to have to go to McDonald's all the time or whatever.
	That's bad rap.
	Yeah, no kids.
	So yeah, I would do something with adults probably.
	What's a good crime?
	Train robbing would be sick.
	I think about that all the time, like back in the gap, like cowboy days, dude.
	Just pulling up on that thing.
	Just throwing up a dynamite in there and throwing it up.
	And there's some rich guy just eating in the window or whatever.
	What the fuck's going on over there?
	Pop one off into him.
	Just shoot right through his Salisbury steak or something.
	Next thing you know, you're in there.
	But then you get in there and you have to look for the money.
	That's got to be the worst.
	Somebody tell us what the fuck it is.
	Like a gunslinger back in the day, man.
	That'd be so sick.
	I know.
	It'd be so wild.
	I was just reading about a lot of hookers and stuff that were on the, like whenever they had Gold Rush and stuff like that.
	Like a lot of hookers started up some big madaming and stuff out there when those gold rush days.
	Yeah.
	And it was pretty wild.
	And they would, you know, they get other women to work for them and stuff like that.
	It's just kind of fascinating to learn about.
	But yeah, I wonder if I could do a good, oh, you know what would be a good crime, I think?
	Get a hot air balloon, drop in that way.
	Nobody sees that shit coming.
	No, absolutely.
	Like first of all, what the fuck is happening?
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	I don't know with drones and shit.
	Probably you couldn't get away with that.
	I mean, maybe.
	Back in the gap, yeah.
	Yeah.
	But yeah, drones, yeah.
	I wonder if we'll be able to travel by drone.
	They have that stuff now where you can kind of.
	I saw one the other day.
	It's like somebody sits in it and it's got the blade and stuff.
	Don't look too safe, though.
	Like, how many beers do I need before I get in this thing?
	Especially if your buddy gets a hold of that remote for 30 seconds, dude.
	He's taking you right into some power lines, dude.
	He's done some fucked up shit to me.
	Let me see it, bro.
	You would have done the same for me, buddy.
	Yeah.
	Especially if you're wearing like a Vols jersey or something, he just takes you around.
	He takes you in Athens, Georgia.
	That's what I'm talking about.
	Yes.
	See, that shit don't look safe.
	Oh, hell no.
	That looked like something Kid Rock would buy.
	Kid Rock has one right now, bro.
	We hear it.
	We just run up.
	That thing runs on probably diesel or something, kerosene.
	Or just runs on some of Kid Rock's bad music, too.
	It's Kid Rock, dude.
	Every time you play ball with a ball, it fucking takes off.
	I'm joking, Bob.
	I'm joking, dude.
	Oh, Bob, man.
	He loves to have a good time, man.
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	You ever had to cancel a show out there on tour?
	Anything ever happened to you?
	Yeah, I don't like to do it, man.
	We haven't done it a whole lot.
	I think we didn't have to cancel any on this tour.
	Oh, yeah, Festival I got sick for, and then whenever the hurricane came through, we had a cancel show that we had to reschedule.
	But last year during the Hel Paso tour, man, like I said, it was crazy.
	I would just get, you know, the whiskey and everything.
	I give up whiskey, by the way, this year.
	I stopped drinking whiskey.
	It's a tequila.
	But, you know, last year at the Hel Paso, dude, I was just, I get to a point where I couldn't talk, you know, and I would just be giving it everything just to say a sentence or whatever.
	And we had to cancel a couple.
	And that sucked.
	So after that, dude, I was like, no more, you know.
	Shut that whiskey down.
	Dude, as much as I love it, it's just, man, it's rough on you, man.
	And like, you know, I can drink tequila and not feel half as bad as whiskey.
	Well, your legs don't work as good in your neck.
	Hey, dude, yeah, you get that 15-gallon head, bro.
	Somebody just starts swaying back and forth.
	And like, I'll be like a cat.
	Like, I hit the ground and bounce up really quick and think that nobody noticed, but I'm so big.
	I just shake shit off the wall and be like, what the fuck is up with this guy?
	Like Chris Farley that's landing on a table.
	That's nine lives.
	That's my favorite.
	Wild, dude.
	Oh, they kicked you out.
	I remember that one, actually, dude.
	I remember that.
	Oh, yeah, when they kicked me out.
	That's fun, bro.
	Yeah, your whole journey.
	So you guys do such a good job of sharing your journey honestly like on social media, dude.
	I feel like you guys are just really earnest about everything that happens in y'all's world.
	You know, a lot of people don't really operate that way.
	You know, you guys are just really, I think, clear to your fans and stuff.
	Do you feel like, and that I think that alone kind of keeps you away from being like a mainstream thing, you know?
	Because you don't have a PR guy telling you this or telling you that.
	Yeah, for sure.
	And it's like, and with the fans, too, it's not like if I were to do something, it's kind of like, they're not going to be shocked by it.
	You know, they were like, oh, you know, fucko for doing that.
	You know, it's, I mean, it's kind of been our thing from the gig go is kind of be ourselves, you know, like we're not going to change for anybody.
	We're not going to act like somebody that we're not.
	You know, so I think it's kind of been it.
	And, you know, people have kind of embraced us for doing that.
	And that's kind of like, you know, puts us apart from other people, you know, I think.
	Oh, yeah.
	So, yeah, I don't know.
	I mean, some of it maybe wouldn't would rather it not be out there, but, you know, it's just life, man.
	Yeah, it's the realness of that.
	Yeah, man, for sure.
	And it makes it, it really makes it you.
	It's like, that is him.
	It's like, that is his world.
	And it's really the world that most people can relate to.
	Who can relate to some type of perfect, polished fucking excitement a little bit, you know?
	It's got to be a little bit of excitement, a little bit of spice.
	Somebody's got to go missing.
	You know what I'm saying?
	Somebody's got to go to jail.
	We've got to figure out where this dude is.
	Yeah, you guys have always kind of been in like and kind of put in this outlaw country type of place, you know?
	Do you feel like there's still a lot of outlaws in the business?
	Do you feel like it's growing?
	Do you feel like it's changing?
	What do you think?
	Who are the outlaws?
	Who were your outlaws at first?
	Man.
	Yeah, I think there's some outlaws out there for sure.
	Maybe not, maybe not that are as, you know, like maybe as big, I would say.
	But there's definitely some dogs out there.
	Man, I don't know.
	Kind of hard to.
	I don't know.
	Who you just say is a dog out there, man?
	Paul Carleton Paul Carleton's about as close to I've heard of him.
	He's about as close to outlaw as a get, man.
	He doesn't give a fuck.
	Dude, he's my dog, yeah.
	He's a beast, man.
	His music's great.
	I mean, he lives what he writes, man.
	He's definitely an outlaw right now, man.
	Gang.
	Yeah, I'd like to get to meet that man.
	Dude, you've got to have him on, man.
	He is his own person.
	And, dude, he's a legend.
	He's one-on-one, huh?
	Absolutely, man.
	East Fex is a legend for sure.
	I think there's a lot of guys that still, I mean, in a weird way, a lot of people kind of do it their own way now because they make their own road.
	Yeah, for sure.
	Like with social media, especially in just filming your own content or behind the scenes or whatever, you make your own shit now.
	It's not like you need to have some big producer help you do it.
	Yeah.
	Like I've said before, like I don't think the word outlaw is what it used to be.
	I think it's kind of doing what you're talking about, just going out and doing everything your own way, paving your own road and just kind of being a trailblazer, pretty much.
	I think that's, I can go into be considered as being an outlaw.
	Because it's not the 80s anymore.
	You can't get away with a whole lot of shit these days, man.
	Everybody's a narc, dude, man.
	Dude, remember when they had fucking narcs and shit, dude?
	Dude, first of all, the shittiest job you could get in high school was being a fucking narc.
	Dude, I swear.
	Bro, they gave you a little card.
	It was like, congratulations.
	Thank you.
	You're a narc.
	Yeah, yeah.
	And it said it on the car.
	And I was like, that's the one thing you can't put on the car, dude.
	And then that dude would like, he would try to arrest people at a party or something.
	People would beat the fuck away from me.
	School's out, bitch.
	And then it would take the cops like three weeks to have a meeting with the kid or whatever.
	And just the whole system.
	Oh, man.
	That's fine.
	Yeah, I wish you go back, you think about like the Motley Crew days, like the 80s, bro.
	Did you live to the 80s?
	I was alive in them, but yeah, I was small.
	Yeah, yeah, you were younger.
	But yeah, I mean, you talk to guys like, like, I remember my first concert ever went to was Maryland Manson, right?
	And this dude took us and, yeah, and he was like a, I guess he was like a pedophile or whatever, but we didn't know he was, right?
	So he was just a guy we knew who was also a pedophile, but we didn't know that part.
	But anyway, he took us over.
	He's like, I can get y'all to get us to Maryland Manson.
	We just started listening to him, dude.
	And I think we were probably about 14. And this dude dropped us off there.
	And we were the only people underage that were in there.
	Like they, I think it was, it was probably an 18 show.
	And like Manson like cut open Twiggy Ramirez or like one of his, one of the other band members with a bottle.
	Somebody cut, one of the band members cut themselves open or cut another one open with a bottle on stage.
	He was like bleeding everywhere.
	The ambulance had to come.
	I bet y'all were like, holy shit.
	It was awesome.
	Dude, we're in the bathroom peeing and somebody goes, what are these kids doing in here?
	Oh my God.
	And then somebody else from another stall goes, don't worry, somebody will f ⁇ .
	Oh, that's what somebody said, dude.
	Bro, the first red flag should have been this dude just getting y'all Maryland Nansen tickets.
	Oh my goodness.
	Richard Slangenstein.
	Did he go in with y'all?
	No, no, no, no.
	He went to gamble.
	Pull him up.
	Richard Langenstein.
	Pull him up, and he was just a real.
	Oh, he's a known pedophile.
	Oh, yeah, yeah.
	He hadn't won awards or whatever, but he was in the trenches or whatever.
	Is that him?
	No, maybe there's more than one of him.
	Jesus.
	That guy up there with the father out there.
	We can't show the wrong one.
	That guy.
	That looks like it.
	Oh, that's a, yeah, that's a liberal.
	Oh, you must see who that is, dude.
	You got theopals.
	That guy's a bookie.
	Hold on.
	That one guy's a bookie.
	Go back.
	Yeah, that guy's just a bookie.
	Up one?
	No, right?
	Right there.
	Yeah.
	That guy's just taking wagers on the jets, dude.
	Yeah.
	I'm going to have to take some of this out because we just accuse a lot of guys of being pedophiles.
	But no, old Slangenstein.
	He wasn't bad.
	He was what he was.
	Slangenstein.
	That's what they called him.
	But yeah, that was my first show.
	What was yours, man?
	First show?
	Do you really remember?
	Yeah, I mean, so my mom played.
	She do like old Opry Houses and stuff like that.
	She was a singer?
	Yeah, she sang and just played with like a bunch of old drunk honky-tonk dudes, right?
	I'd be that little shithead kid like running up and down the halls, throwing popcorn at people.
	And yeah, so I mean, I was around music growing up, but I think my first actual concert was Stony LaRue.
	You ever heard of Stony LaRue?
	Bring him up.
	He's a man or woman.
	Dude, he's like a Red Dirt King, man, Oklahoma cat.
	There he is.
	Wow.
	And you need to get into his music manage.
	He's phenomenal.
	And it was at the Waco Fairgrounds.
	My cousins were going to Baylor.
	I think I was like sixth or seventh grade, maybe.
	And these college girls come up to me like, hey, what's going on?
	And my cousin, her friend steps in.
	She's like, hey, babe, here's your beer.
	And like, just trying to deter them or whatever.
	And I take this beer and I hammer it.
	And they're like, all right, whatever.
	She's like, what the fuck are you doing?
	We're supposed to drink that beer.
	I'm like, so we get back to the hotel that night.
	My mom beats my ass.
	It's all yeah.
	But I'll never forget it.
	Yeah.
	Texas moon.
	Stony LaRue.
	Yeah.
	And is he still alive?
	Oh, good.
	Yeah, he's got some bangers.
	It warms my heart, dude.
	I just saw Struggle Jennings play.
	We're playing in the same town.
	Oh, really?
	Pretty cool.
	I hadn't met Shoe yet.
	Him and yeah, because he runs some Jelly Roll brands and Yellow Wolf.
	That whole gang, remember, that was really that white sort of American, that sort of fucking missing person.
	I like Wolf, man.
	Oh, yeah.
	All of that Yellow Wolf.
	Jack Bliss Jelly Lol, bro.
	I used to listen to Pop the Truck before football games, man.
	And it's like.
	I don't know if there is a better anthem, dude.
	Dude, it's so good.
	Yeah, dude.
	They had Jelly Roll out there, Yellow Wolf.
	We even saw Jelly Wolf was out there.
	We're like, who the fuck is that?
	It's just some.
	It's just some dude in ICP, maybe?
	Yeah, dude.
	It's just a Jelly Wolf.
	Yeah, it was a St. Bernard with a couple face tattoos on him.
	Oh, man.
	Driving a cyber truck, bro.
	But we saw Struggle Man.
	It was awesome to go see him.
	He puts on a great show.
	Where was it?
	I feel like it was in Montana, somewhere.
	Well, we got to go meet him backstage after with his crew.
	He's got a great group.
	See, who's performing with him real quick?
	Who's out there on the road with another ally right there?
	With Struggle Jennings.
	Yeah, he's been out there doing it, man.
	He's been out there doing it.
	Yeah, and you know, there's something also, there's something nice about when you have a, when you're not as mainstream, that there's a real relationship between you and your fans.
	Yeah, for sure.
	Caitlin Curtis and Brianna Harness are Brianna Harness.
	I don't know if that's the newest tour or not.
	Is that Tom McDonald?
	Oh, yeah, it might be.
	Is that he's a rapper?
	They had a song together, I think.
	Yeah, he's cold.
	Oh, Tommy Vex, dude?
	Tommy Vex.
	Wow, bro, that's crazy.
	I know him.
	I know him.
	That's just crazy.
	Well, sometimes you just, it's amazing who you see on Google of who you know.
	Rock music.
	Yeah, he's a rock dog right there.
	Oh, yeah, for sure.
	Yeah, there's something nice about when something is still grassroots.
	Yeah, for sure.
	That you feel this weird thing.
	It's like your thing.
	Yeah, and I feel like it gives the fans more of a connection, you know?
	Oh, yeah.
	He's one of us, you know, like type shit.
	You go see him and then you're like, man, he's one of us, dude.
	He's the same.
	One of us.
	That's one of us.
	What is that?
	The Wolf Wall Street when they're sitting there.
	You never see that?
	I've seen it.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	And what he's in a wheelchair?
	What happened?
	I don't know.
	I think it's when they were talking about the little people strapping them to the board.
	Oh, yeah.
	And sliding them down at the present time, dude.
	When was that?
	That would have been early 90s, late 80s.
	Yeah.
	Oh, dude.
	If I was back then, I would have definitely been doing, I'm not going to say it out loud.
	I'll spell it real quick in case there's any kids listening in the cars anywhere.
	M-U-R-D-E-R-S.
	And that's when I would have been doing.
	But now they catch you.
	You can't even do no good crime anymore.
	You can't.
	That's the thing.
	We're taking a lot of fun out of it.
	You can't be a train robber.
	The horse will ratch out, man.
	And it's only for like a little bit, like five years at a time, 10 years at a time, until it blows up.
	And it's like, oh, man, you missed that.
	Like, what do you mean?
	I mean, just like train robbing or like robbing shit or whatever.
	Or, you know, partying really fucking hard in the 80s and then just slowing down.
	People part.
	I just, I wonder who partied the hard.
	We had Tommy Lee on one time.
	He's a fucking greatest dude.
	Oh, I'm a big Molly Crew guy.
	Bro, they were so good.
	Girls, girls, girls.
	Oh, yeah.
	God, dude.
	I can't even imagine.
	And he was good looking.
	Yeah.
	That was the deal.
	Like, they had everything, bro.
	Imagine being famous and then also being good looking.
	Like, what a lucky God.
	You know what I'm saying?
	I think Tommy was really young, too, right?
	Whenever all that was going on.
	Yeah, imagine having all that going on at 21, 20, bro.
	I wouldn't be alive.
	I would not.
	There's no way.
	I wouldn't be alive.
	Like Columbia, people from Columbia or whatever, the ambassador, they're always sending me these, come down to Columbia.
	We'd love to have you down here, I guess.
	Y'all don't want me there.
	I'm like, dude, they're like, we'll give you five free tickets to Columbia.
	Like, dude, I will fucking.
	If they do, holler at me.
	I'll go with you.
	I will die down there, bro.
	I'm fucking going to Columbia.
	Oh, God.
	They said it's actually really nice to go to.
	I'm sure it is.
	But I think it's, yeah, I just think they want to do ransoms or whatever.
	That's the thing.
	So they try to get you down there.
	Fuck that.
	And they want to do ransoms.
	Yeah, I would not make it down there.
	Oh, dude, if I even grew up in Columbia, I would get an eight ball for like my seventh birthday.
	I would walk in.
	And it would be lights out, bro.
	We're mainlining this shit.
	What's the town in Texas?
	We got some shows coming up in Texas.
	We're going to Benton.
	Benton, Texas?
	Yeah.
	We're going to Texas A ⁇ M over there.
	Nice.
	We're at in College Station?
	Not sure.
	There's a new casino in Benton.
	Oh, shit.
	Yep.
	Is it?
	Oh, Belton.
	Sorry.
	Belton.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Belton.
	They keep changing the name of it.
	Belton's out there by Waco.
	be able to go on over to Belton.
	Oh, Waco is where...
	And yeah, it's right outside of Waco.
	Is it a good spot?
	No, it's the shittiest strip club in the world.
	Is that the best one you've ever been to, you think?
	Strip club?
	Yeah.
	Absolutely not.
	No.
	But it needed to be redecorated, I guess.
	And so I just, I gave it to him.
	Who the fuck is even decorating those strip clubs?
	There were just mirrors everywhere.
	And I was like, man, fuck one of these mirrors, bro.
	Dude, I found the pictures.
	But he was talking about us kicking holes in the drywall and shit.
	And so somebody had found them and sent them to me.
	And I was like, oh, fuck, man.
	And it's just us kind of like passed out next to them, like drywall everywhere.
	Wow.
	We had some good times.
	I've been to some, I'm trying to think of one.
	Oh, in Shreport, Louisiana, that is trip clubs.
	And they had a woman in there that's built like a damn Cinotaur or whatever.
	Is that the one?
	Or Minotaur.
	Pull up Cinotaur or Minotaur.
	One of them's on Test 200, I think.
	I don't remember which one it is, but one of them.
	Which one is that?
	Centaur, yeah.
	Centaur.
	This lady was centaur up.
	She was definitely.
	It's probably Larry Flint if he was in Shreveport.
	Larry Flint was pretty good.
	This was not that good.
	This was.
	This lady looked like a damn off-duty pony.
	She just like a Monday night.
	Oh, bro.
	And she was on the tallest heels ever.
	She was trying to make herself look taller.
	Them heels, bro, them bitches were, I mean, if you took, they had the little sticker on them with like they say on the top of a ladder, do not step right here.
	That was all them bitches, dude.
	Oh, man.
	She was in them.
	God.
	It was so nerve-wracking.
	It's true for her up there.
	You spent a lot of time.
	Yeah, Louisiana.
	Over the years, I have.
	I used to go to comedy clubs there.
	You know what's kind of sad is you go to clubs and over the years they close down.
	Yeah.
	Same with music?
	Yeah.
	I mean, kind of the same.
	I mean, there's like businesses really don't last a whole lot long, like a long time over there for some reason.
	I don't know why.
	I mean, it's kind of everywhere in Louisiana, East Texas, unless they're established or a big chain, they just, they don't last for some reason.
	I don't know what it is.
	That's a good point, man.
	Yeah, I always wanted to go to Longview.
	I never got there.
	Yeah, see, that's every time we went to the mall and somewhere nice to eat or whatever, we'd have to go to Longview to go.
	Yeah.
	I grew up.
	How far did you grow up from Shreport?
	Like four hours.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	So you're like middle of them.
	Yeah, I'm a little.
	I'm like, I'm north of New Orleans, about one hours.
	Okay.
	So our town.
	About the same time, it's the same size as your town.
	Kind of a perfect size for a town, bro.
	Dude, I love it.
	Dude, there was nothing better, dude.
	Because you were just, there was like two, there was enough.
	There was just enough people to make things interesting.
	Yeah.
	Like you knew everybody, but the select few you didn't know, you kind of made up your own stories.
	It's kind of like, kind of mysterious.
	Like, I wonder what they do.
	Why don't they come to church?
	Yeah.
	Oh, yeah.
	We had a dude that had a, they bought him a bike and he was, he might have been mentally disabled or something, but he might not have been, right?
	We don't know him.
	But his bike had a baby seat on the back of it.
	So there was this story that like he had a kid that had like gone missing or whatever.
	And he would always riding around.
	It was like a sad man whose wife had left him after the baby had been missing or whatever.
	And that's what people thought for years.
	And it was like people would like pray for him when he drove by or whatever.
	Or give him milk money, all kinds of shit, leave pies in his yard and stuff.
	And then years later, we found out he's just a mentally handicapped guy and somebody gotten him a used bike that had a baby seat on it off the side.
	He just didn't know how to take it off.
	Yeah.
	And we were like, we fucking gave that dude a lot of dessert.
	We gave him a lot of dessert.
	The prayers were used, though.
	You know, the prayers.
	That was good.
	But it was so sad.
	He would always be like in the distance, like looking at us like when we got off the school bus.
	Yeah, I think he just wanted.
	I think he just wanted buddies, you know?
	Oh, man, dude.
	That's good.
	But it's so crazy.
	Just because of that story, we didn't know.
	We thought he was this sad.
	So you come up with all these different scenarios and stories and shit.
	And then it's kind of like, it just becomes like a big fable.
	Yeah.
	Oh, man.
	But you have a town that's just big enough to support that kind of, where there's like just enough room for rumors to happen.
	For sure.
	Oh, 100%.
	You can't get the gossip, all of the drama, all that shit like that.
	And I remember when I was a kid, you would hear like an older kid's name, like he was like two years older, three or four years older.
	And you were like, oh, that's the toughest guy in the whole world.
	Yeah, don't mess with him, dude.
	Yeah.
	He's so cool.
	That was crazy, dude.
	That was fun being young.
	It was, man.
	That shit was the best.
	Yeah, you said your parents were kind of strict growing up.
	And were they two your siblings as well or just you?
	No, just me, honestly, man.
	I think you were just a bad.
	I was kind of a little shit that growing up, man.
	You know, it was kind of strict on me.
	I mean, but like, I mean, I was always well-mannered, you know, I mean, one of the most likable guys.
	You were by far one of the guys anywhere.
	I have never heard anyone say anything uncomplimentary about co-wetts.
	Except your parents, I guess.
	Yeah, except for Gary Dale just whooping the shit out of me.
	But no, like, I mean, I guess as like a little kid, I was kind of a terrible because, I mean, I was the only kid till I was eight years old.
	So, you know, I didn't know that, you know?
	And then Presley came up and my younger sister, Zoe.
	Why'd they wait eight years?
	Do you think any word on that?
	I don't know, man.
	I have no idea.
	That's rare, kind of.
	Well, yeah, whenever happened, I was like, fuck, bro.
	Yeah, yeah, because, yeah, they had to go.
	Yeah, for sure.
	But, yeah, I don't know.
	They were super strict on me.
	And then my middle sister, I mean, not really.
	And then Zoe Kay, they just let her run ragged, bro.
	Is she all right?
	Oh, she's a sweetheart.
	She's an angel, man.
	Married or not?
	Not married.
	Super smart.
	Yeah, she's almost done with college.
	Oh, God.
	I got to get her.
	I think you're going to be one of the first Wetzels to graduate college.
	So shout out ZK.
	Let's get a picture of her up, Zoe.
	Yeah, Zoe Kay, yeah.
	Zoe Kay Wetzel.
	Yeah, dude.
	Yeah, she's graduating.
	Yeah, man.
	I think she's got like a couple semesters left.
	Oh, hell yeah.
	Zoe K right there.
	Where's she graduating from?
	So she went to Texas Tech.
	She got her associates in Texas Tech, at Texas Tech.
	Oh, yeah, Red Raider country.
	That's Cliff Kingsbury country over there.
	And Mahomes country, isn't it?
	Mahomes, you bet.
	Yeah, and so now she's just finishing on nursing school.
	Oh, she's going to be a nurse?
	No way.
	She wants to be a nurse practitioner.
	And so I was like, you know what?
	It's like, fuck it.
	You know, do the whole thing, you know, might as well.
	Yeah, be a fucking, yeah, be the Carmelo Anthony in nurses.
	You know what I'm saying?
	Be like a, go be a doctor who gives a shit.
	Yeah, be the best one.
	Yeah, try to get some scripts, you know what I mean?
	Yeah.
	That's what I'm talking about.
	Too much of this.
	Yeah, I'm sick of buying this shit that's been sucked on.
	All these shady ass motherfuckers.
	Oh, for sure, dude.
	I want that governmental stuff, baby.
	Hard to buy a shit behind McDonald's.
	Come on.
	Yeah, my sister's a nurse.
	I just asked her, she's like, what do you want for Christmas?
	I said, I want some Tordoll shots.
	If my back gets bad on the road, I can just use it.
	Even if I'm not hurting, we're never getting an IV.
	I'm like, give me some of that Torado.
	Put it in.
	Hell yeah.
	Give me all the goods.
	That's how I'll do it.
	Yeah, I got to get a wife, man, next year.
	That's one of my goals.
	2021.
	That's what I'm calling it.
	Wife 2025.
	I'm in.
	Nice.
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	Were your parents kind of like, were they like, okay, Cole, what are you doing here, buddy?
	You need to get you a, you need to fill out an application somewhere, brother.
	How did they, how have they supported your music over the years?
	What's that been like?
	Yeah, I mean, they've always been super supportive.
	But obviously, you know, them being parents, they're like, I remember whenever I was in, I got kicked out of school at Tarleton State.
	Oh, yeah.
	And so, you know, and they like to come in and check on me like once a year or whatever.
	And yeah, my parents.
	And so I'm living basically in a garage on a couch in a garage at one of my buddies' house.
	And they like come in and it's like, and I was sick for some reason.
	I had like a flu or something, but I didn't have no money to go get no meds or nothing.
	So they come up, take care of me, and they're like, oh, we're coming up.
	And they walk in this garage and there's like the cats running around and shit.
	I'm just kind of like laid up on the couch.
	They're like, ah, we ain't doing this shit.
	Like, what is wrong with you, bro?
	I was like, well, I'm sick right now.
	They're like, well, this is not going to happen anymore.
	But I was too proud to be like, to ask them for money and shit, you know, because I just, I didn't want to go that route.
	And you were out of school at that point?
	I was out of school.
	Did they know you were out of school or no?
	they knew.
	And this was kind of like, No, no, they kicked me out.
	They said, get the fuck out of here.
	And so this is like two or probably three years, probably 2014-ish.
	And we're, you know, we're traveling.
	We're making, we're not making great money, but we're making enough for me to pay rent on a couch in a garage.
	And so they were like, you know, my dad, he's worked construction.
	He's like, you know, come back.
	You make pretty good money.
	A couple years, you know, you can be a superintendent.
	You'll run a crew like me.
	I'm like, ah, you know, that sounds great.
	But, you know, and I've got buddies that are out in the oil field, you know, making damn good money.
	And it's just, it was kind of a shitty, shitty time of my life.
	But I think that kind of, that stuff right there is kind of what helped build me to what I am today.
	You know, it made me, you know, hard shelled, you know, it kind of makes me appreciate everything that I've got going on now a little bit more, you know, having to go through those times.
	But yeah, my parents, they were like, this is, this is not cool.
	So you need to figure it out.
	Like, if you're going to do it, you know, do it.
	So, man, they've been super supportive the entire time.
	So it's been great.
	Do you have any songs that are like about your mother or dad or anything like that?
	No.
	Surprisingly, I don't.
	I've got a shit ton of songs.
	So I'll probably write one now.
	They're going to be watching.
	They'll be like, you know what?
	We don't have a fucking song about you.
	You know what?
	Yeah, you just never know because sometimes it's interesting where people find, how they find.
	It's kind of hard to write a song.
	You see a lot of songs that are kind of love ballads, you know?
	But it's hard to write one that Morgan has that one.
	What's it like?
	Oh, that's a banger.
	Oh, yeah.
	I thought you should know.
	That's a banger.
	And I think there's a lot of people out there that want to have that, have a song like that.
	I think it also touched on a nerve.
	It's like there's not really that son-to-mother song out there.
	I mean, son-to-father song.
	There's some of those more probably.
	That's all it's on to write, though, you know?
	I feel like those songs are hard to write.
	Oh, for sure.
	Yeah, the Morgan songs put back here.
	I mean, I've mentioned my parents in songs before, but I just haven't wrote a song about them.
	Yeah, maybe it'll happen.
	Look, things happen as they happen.
	But it's just interesting.
	Yeah, I never really thought that it's kind of tough to create.
	That's a tough one to kind of make.
	I think that's why that one hit me so hard, I think, of Morgan's just was because it did.
	Oh, it rings home for pretty much everybody, you know.
	You guys toured together some?
	Yeah, we did AT ⁇ T with them this year.
	Bro, that was awesome.
	How cool was that?
	Dude, that's what I told him.
	I was like, man, I appreciate you having me out.
	Any of the shows would have been great, but to play Cowboys Stadium, you know, Cowboys, my team, you know, Rep Dallas.
	And so just dude, bro.
	I got out there and like, that's kind of what I was, like, I couldn't even comprehend what was going on.
	The whole time, I'm just like staring around and looking, trying to take it all in, bro.
	And it was like, what is going on, man?
	It was, it was insane.
	It was something I'll never forget.
	You know, I can't thank Morgan enough for having us out there.
	Just to be able to do that, dude.
	That's so crazy to have that moment to go walk out there.
	Oh, man.
	It was just like you just like kept, like, I've never even been on the field before, right?
	Like, you just kept looking at like people all the way up.
	You're like, oh, what?
	I was like, you know, I've been kicked out of the stadium a few times.
	So this was, we had to get a couple signatures to get me in over there.
	Dude, I'm in the back.
	I'm like, what the fuck?
	Who let him back in here?
	Yeah, bro.
	That's so great.
	Has yours toured now?
	I'm guessing it's probably expanded.
	I know that you had an audience that was outside of Texas for sure.
	I know you have had a strong grassroots audience for a long time.
	And even bigger than grassroots, I don't mean to use those terms to sound like it isn't, you know what I'm saying?
	Yeah, I'm not trying to like.
	Okay.
	But now he's found that you're touring places that are outside of places you didn't think you would go before because that's when things are like, wow, this is kind of crazy.
	Yeah, for sure.
	And I mean, we've been doing it for a while, you know, outside of Texas.
	Like we got outside of Texas probably 17, 18. But I mean, even now, whenever we go to new places that are sold out, it's kind of like, man, this is crazy.
	You know, you kind of sit back and you're like, shit, this is pretty wild.
	But yeah, it's, I mean, we just got done with Europe.
	We were over there, did UK.
	No way.
	Yeah, that was all the shows were sold out.
	Go to Manchester, London, Manchester, London, Glasgow.
	Yeah.
	All of Leeds, I think.
	Leeds.
	Then we did Amsterdam.
	Then we did Germany.
	Bro, it was wild.
	Wow.
	Have you ever been to Europe before?
	We did an acoustic run over there back in like 2018.
	But we haven't been back since.
	And so a lot of the fans were like, were fans of the older music, you know?
	Like they dug on the new stuff, but they were singing everywhere.
	It's all the old shit.
	So I was like, fuck yeah.
	Wow.
	It was a great time, man.
	That's so sick.
	We got to get back in like the smaller rooms, too.
	And you're going to Australia soon, too, huh?
	Yeah, we'll be there in March, I think.
	It's so I've never been to Australia.
	I'm ready.
	It's so great, dude.
	We rented bikes one day on the beach, right?
	You could just rent like these beach cruiser bikes, you know, or just like these motorized bikes, you know.
	And we rented some and they you can take them out on the beach and literally it's just the most beautiful beach.
	Nobody's out there and you're just ripping these bitches, dude.
	I just heard it's kind of like Texas, honestly.
	Like Australia and Texas have like this thing together.
	The biggest following outside.
	Really?
	Nice.
	Hell yeah.
	That's awesome.
	Shout out to Australia.
	Bro, there's nothing like Australia.
	And the people and the women are.
	Awesome.
	And everybody's good over there.
	They're great, man.
	They're great.
	And everybody's good over there.
	And when I was over there, we went and saw, one night, we saw Matchbox 20 and Google Dolls at a show.
	We popped over there and checked that out for a little bit.
	We went to a Fred again show over there.
	DJ.
	He's in DJs.
	That was pretty hype.
	Were you doing shows over there?
	Yeah.
	Nice.
	Where all you tours?
	We went to everywhere except for Perth.
	We have to go back and go to Perth.
	I might go to Sydney and Perth if we're able to.
	Dude, you have to be on my friend Sean and Marley.
	Are you going to be in Sydney?
	Queensland.
	Queensland.
	What is Queensland?
	Is that the beach?
	We're hoping to get a couple more shows over there.
	So if we are, we need to get on that.
	Yeah.
	You need to go on my buddy Sean and Marley's show, dude.
	Let me up.
	Bring it up.
	Bring it up.
	Bring it up, Sean and Marley.
	Is it like a podcast?
	No, they do Sean and Marley.
	S-E-A.
	There they are right there.
	Sean and Marley.
	Oh, shit.
	Yes.
	Fuck yeah, dude.
	My dog, dude.
	You gotta go.
	And make a Texas dish with them.
	They're great.
	Yes.
	Hell yeah.
	Some chicken fried steak with them, bro.
	Hell yeah.
	Yeah, dude.
	They are legends.
	Get down on Sean Marley.
	I didn't know they were in Australia.
	They were on Hot Wings.
	No way.
	Bring it up.
	Hi there, everybody.
	Welcome to the Hot Wings program.
	What?
	Geez.
	Cheers.
	You and Marley look a little bit like me.
	I look like Sean.
	We should do our own show like this.
	I look like Sean a little bit.
	Theo Coco.
	That guy's good.
	I call the fire department.
	Wow.
	Have you been on hot ones?
	Yeah, I was on there years ago.
	How was that?
	It's fun.
	But I didn't think it was that hot, to be honest.
	I mean, we're used to that shit, though.
	Yeah, dude, one of them, I'll say this.
	One of them, it's more like, it's not really a sauce.
	It's more like something you clean a bathroom with.
	I'm saying, like, hey, y'all are fucking cheap right here.
	This is, yeah.
	Well, I saw, like, they saw it for like tapetillo and shit like that.
	I was like, what?
	We put that on eggs in the morning.
	Yeah, some of it was easy.
	And then some of it, you're like, oh, they're using this to take rust off of the tire well.
	You know what I'm saying?
	Like, this shit is fucking maximal, dude.
	What's like the hot, like, what is, what's an area of Texas that you think has the best food?
	You've been all over there.
	Either Austin, San Antonio's got some really good food, man.
	Mexican food, San Antonio, for sure.
	Austin just has everything, bro.
	Like barbecue, Mexican food, obviously.
	Fort Worth, man.
	Fort Worth is lights out.
	El Paso's got really good food.
	Yeah, what's up with El Paso?
	It always gets a weird rap, I feel.
	Like it's kind of this mystery.
	I think they want to keep it a mystery, man, because there's so much shit going on.
	Because right there next to Juarez.
	And Juarez is a no-no.
	You play Juarez?
	We haven't, but I mean, it's like they tell you not to go over there or whatever.
	But I had a buddy.
	He went over there like a month ago or two months ago.
	And he was like, yeah, we just walked across and went and ate and had a couple beers and came back over.
	I was like, dude, what?
	But yeah, man, El Paso, we record out there in Tornillo, just south of El Paso.
	Tornillo, it's called?
	Tornillo, yeah.
	And it's a great time with food out there.
	Phenomenal.
	It's really good.
	Best Mexican food you'll probably ever eat.
	Outside of El Paso.
	Outside El Paso, in El Paso.
	In El Paso.
	If you're there, hit me up.
	I'll send you some.
	Yeah.
	What do you think about now with music kind of moving forward?
	What do you kind of look at?
	Like, I mean, you guys are touring off of Nine Lives Now.
	And then, like, do you start to think about what do you kind of think about?
	I know you have a Christmas album that's coming out.
	Yeah.
	We have it coming out here in a couple days, I guess.
	A couple days, I think, December.
	And then January, managed to get back in the studio.
	Starting to write.
	We'll start writing tomorrow for that, actually.
	Say here.
	And then January managed to get back in the studio, trying to do the same thing, I guess.
	Yeah, just that.
	We got a lot of festivals this year coming up.
	And then, I don't know, a couple surprises.
	Yeah?
	Yeah.
	We're excited about it, man.
	This year was wild, man.
	For us, it was insane.
	And this year went by so fucking quick.
	Like, dog.
	How is that?
	What is that about?
	I don't know.
	Maybe that's another part of getting older, but I just feel like it was New Year's Eve and now we're back at Christmas again, you know?
	It was so fast, dude.
	I think people are living fast too because COVID or whatever.
	I think people are like trying to live as much as they can.
	Yeah, maybe that's it.
	I don't know.
	But it was, I just looked up and I was like, because the tour went by, tour went by.
	I mean, we were on the road for three months and it went by super quick.
	You know, I was looking forward to Europe, then Europe went by quick.
	And I was like, holy shit.
	So I don't know, man.
	Just getting back out there, putting out some more music, trying to, you know, keep the fans happy.
	It all happens so fast.
	It does, man.
	It's kind of weird how even like you could be dreaming or hoping about something and it's like the most important thing in the world.
	And then it comes and it's gone.
	It comes and it's like, oh, man.
	Now what I got to look forward to.
	It's just kind of, yeah, like I'm always pinning like my, not necessarily my happiness, but like I'll be pinning like a lot of my excitement on one day or one moment.
	I do that a lot.
	And there's such a buildup of it, but then once it's gone, it's just like it never even happened.
	Damn, that was it.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	I feel the same shit, man.
	I'll get so fixated on some shit, you know, and then once it's there, try to relish it for as long as you can.
	But it goes by so quick.
	They got to get you on game day down there, man.
	I know it, man.
	That'd be a fun one.
	Did you do that with, is that with Pat?
	Yeah, I got to do it like a year ago.
	It was crazy, dude.
	They called literally the night before, like 10 o'clock, like, you want to come on tomorrow?
	And I was like, I wouldn't put me on.
	Dude, we were talking about that at lunch.
	Like, Pat is just like completely.
	Oh, that guy's unreal.
	He's insane.
	He's the most, that guy's unreal, dude.
	There's nobody like Pat McAfee.
	He's like the male Caitlin Clark of his job.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, man.
	He is.
	They should have you down there next year on that on that Red River Rodriguez or the Texas versus A ⁇ M. A ⁇ M, did you watch that the other night?
	It was great.
	It was a great game, man.
	I think that was the, I think it was the first time, what, like 11 or 12 years that they played.
	And everybody was stoked.
	Texas was on Cloud 10, man.
	We were fired up.
	People were stoked, man.
	What a great place to be from.
	Yeah, for sure.
	Because Texas, I feel like, say, if there's like, people start to divide off into their own states, that's going to be a state a lot of people are going to want to go live in.
	For sure.
	Well, hell, like, everybody's starting to move down.
	You know, you got all these people from California.
	And I mean, it's kind of like Nashville.
	You know, everybody's moving to Nashville as well.
	But are you coming to Texas?
	I'm coming to look at a place there in Austin.
	Nice, man.
	Fuck y'all.
	I need to get just, I want to be closer to like a.
	Yeah, I would like to have, to be able to be in both places.
	Yeah.
	Because I find myself, I've had an apartment in Los Angeles for a while for this whole year.
	I've probably been there.
	Oh, you still got a place back in LA?
	But three weeks I've been there.
	Whole year.
	It's yeah, I think being able to bounce back and forth from here and there would be dope.
	Yeah.
	And you've been awesome, right, man?
	It's got everything, man.
	Like, it's badass.
	It's fun.
	You can still get mugged a little.
	Still, yeah, still got to hold on to your wallet.
	Oh, yeah.
	If there ain't no crime or the food ain't that good, you gotta have crime to have food.
	It's too light for me.
	Yeah, dude.
	If you don't have some good crime.
	Yeah, we were gonna do.
	What did you, Cam had asked me about doing the 12 Days of Christmas for that thing?
	What were we supposed to do?
	No, I mean, just read it?
	No, yeah, I was gonna have you read it, but I should have thought about it like two or three years ago.
	We could do it now.
	We didn't even be able to record or no.
	No, no, we're good.
	I don't know if I had to go to a studio or something.
	I was just kind of overwhelmed.
	No, I hit him up and I was like, man, this is kind of last notice.
	If you do one next year, I'll be happy to do it.
	Yeah, for sure.
	We'll get together all sorts of things.
	Because I wanted to find a way to make it funny, but I was just like, I'm fucking burnt out.
	I was like, man, he's like, well, what's kind of like the overall deal?
	I was like, just tell him to be himself.
	I just wanted you to read.
	You know Ben Burgess?
	Ben Burgess.
	Oh, yeah.
	Songwriter?
	We got Ben to do it.
	Yeah.
	And Ben.
	Bring him up.
	Bring him a picture of him.
	Ben is his own person, bro.
	And he went in there and did his Texas draw and shit.
	Oh, dude, he's a very famous songwriter, isn't he?
	He's a bad cat, man.
	He's like the greatest one, isn't he?
	Yeah.
	I love Old Burgess.
	Wow.
	I met him years ago with Charles Kelly, I think, at some event that they had, Josh Kelly, years ago.
	Yeah, he's a bad dude, man.
	Yeah, he's the guy.
	He got in there and he read it like he was reading it to his grandchildren or some shit.
	Sounds good.
	He did.
	Yeah, that's cool.
	Well, if you guys need somebody next year, man, I was going to say, I'll tell you, we could just record it right here.
	I just didn't, I think, know what to do.
	Yeah, no.
	Oh, good.
	Yeah, what do you do?
	Yeah, with the Christmas album.
	So what is it?
	It's just like, I heard some of the ones from last year.
	I saw you guys had a cool animation that was online.
	Like you in the back of a Santa Slay and stuff.
	It's just like just some reimagined songs.
	We're just basically covering them up and just making them ours.
	And like chestnuts roasting on like a on a bottle of fireball or something.
	Yeah, fucking barbecue pit or some shit.
	Oh, yeah.
	It kind of gives us something to do at the end of the year.
	Because we're usually not in the studio.
	So it just kind of gives us reason to...
	So I don't know.
	Do you when you start thinking about like what are things you feel like are missing from your own life?
	Do you feel like?
	Oh, is that a weird question?
	I don't know.
	I've been getting a lot of those today.
	Very intimate questions.
	I don't know, man.
	I mean, you just hit such a neat place in your career.
	Yeah, for sure.
	I don't think it's anything career-wise.
	I don't know.
	It's just always go, go, go.
	And I don't know.
	You know, I think not having maybe the alone time or whatever it is, you know, just to kind of reset.
	I was with Bobby and them earlier, and we were talking about it.
	And that was kind of one of the things I, you know, just, I like, I like being like, I'm a loner, you know, and because I'm always surrounded around people and stuff, but I like to have the time to myself just to kind of relax and reset and do all that shit.
	So I don't know.
	I don't know what it's missing.
	Life's good, man.
	Life's good too.
	Yeah, and that's a good point, too.
	Sometimes it doesn't have to be.
	Sometimes I'll feel like I always need to have an answer for that question.
	I didn't even realize that till just now.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, for sure.
	And then I'm kind of setting myself up for failure in a little bit of a way because I'm always thinking that there's something missing.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, that could be a problem.
	but sometimes when life is as good as you think it is, maybe it's not, you know, so I don't know.
	It must be inspiring to see your career evolve, continue to evolve, right?
	And grow, your fan base continue to grow, because then you start thinking, well, what can I do?
	Not that you don't think that before, but you're like, okay, how can I challenge myself now?
	How can I, what else could I make?
	I've got here, you know, where else could I go?
	Or what else could I do?
	That's kind of interesting, you know, because you don't know what this looks like until you're standing there, you know?
	Well, I find myself getting into things that, you know, just that I probably would never have gotten into and be like, well, maybe that would be a cool, cool, like, say, acting or something, you know, something like that.
	I think that would be really cool to get into.
	Bar ownership.
	You got a new bar right now.
	Yeah, yeah.
	We've been doing the bar deal and riot room.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, you need to come down to Fort Worth, man.
	Yeah, dude.
	Whenever we're touring through there, I think if we don't go through Dallas, we'll have to make it happen.
	Yeah, for sure.
	And what kind of joint is it in there?
	They got billions or what is it?
	It's kind of like a honky tonk during the day with food.
	And then about nine o'clock, it turns to a club, man.
	It's like a Texas club, I guess, like a cowboy club.
	Oh, yeah.
	I don't know.
	I don't explain it.
	We got bottles.
	There you go.
	Yeah.
	It's a ride.
	It's a good time.
	Gang, dude.
	That's your place?
	Yeah, bro.
	Congratulations, man.
	We just opened up a second location or about to in Houston.
	Hopefully getting it up by February.
	See, that's what I'm missing about partying.
	You can open up something like that.
	Like, I'd have to open up a place where people kind of cry about how they feel every now and then.
	That's what I say whenever I open it up.
	I was like, I just want a place I can go fucking party and not have to worry about going to jail.
	Like, nobody can kick me out of the motherfucker.
	Except for you.
	You're not texting yourself.
	Sometimes I need to kick myself out of there, bro.
	You just see me dragging myself out, bro.
	Fucking riot, Rude.
	That's so cool, dude.
	Just to have your own bar.
	Everybody dreams of that.
	People dream of that in their lives, you know?
	Yeah, it's been a lot of fun, man.
	You guys are opening up a new one?
	Yeah, down in Houston.
	It'll open, hoping for February, but it's almost finished up.
	It's been going good, man.
	I never thought that I'd have a bar or whatever, but got in with the right people and just kind of, I don't know.
	It's been cool.
	Yeah.
	Especially in Texas, especially in your space.
	Yeah, we didn't.
	We had talked about putting in one here in Nashville, and I was like, I'm not stepping on nobody's toes.
	It's not my domain.
	I'm going to stick to what I know down there in Texas.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, you got to be careful.
	I think about that sometimes, too, like about getting involved in certain stuff.
	You don't want to act like it's your place just because you're there.
	Yeah, for sure.
	You know, if you're not from there, I feel like.
	That's how I feel sometimes.
	I've seen Jelly Rose.
	Is he putting in one?
	Oh, yeah, that's what I did here.
	Is Jelly Roll putting in a bar?
	Let's look, pull it up.
	Laney got hers.
	Morgan?
	Oh, yeah.
	I haven't been to Morgan's yet.
	I haven't been to Morgan's either.
	We read up.
	Good Not Man.
	Five-story building.
	God.
	I feel like they're just like saying how many stories they can go up.
	Yeah.
	Shout out, Jelly, man.
	That's awesome.
	Bar's Marquis sound will be yellow and black, including a skull wearing a crown of natural skyline.
	Oh, that's kind of cool, man.
	Oh, yeah.
	That's like his emblem.
	Yeah, shout out, Jelly.
	That's awesome, man.
	It is cool, dude.
	what a guy.
	Dude, you're a fresh and a jelly whenever he is you and uncle.
	If you've ever
	if you've ever given head in the front seat of a Peter Belt, if you've ever had your legs fall asleep on the shitter of a Love's gas station toilet, you could win an Emmy.
	Motherfucker's like, what is happening?
	Dude, by the way, Jelly gives the best hugs in the world, bro.
	Every time he sees you, he just picks you up.
	He's like, Jelly, man, this is, oh, man.
	If you're having a shitty day, get a hug from Jelly Row, bro.
	Turns that motherfucker right around.
	They should have a hug center.
	That should be a machine.
	That's what he'd tell him.
	Hey, instead of all the other good that you're doing around the world, you need a hug station, bro.
	Yep, a hug station.
	Give out free hugs, bro.
	Oh, man.
	If you'd ever been home, it's $1 hugs, dude.
	Jelly's $1 hugs, dude.
	Or you can pay $2 and get a little bit more of a hug.
	You know what I'm saying?
	And it's heated.
	The second hug is heated, dude.
	Damn, brother.
	Oh, man.
	Yeah, there's something about Jelly.
	He just is, there's something about him.
	He's just like a conduit, you know?
	I feel like for love, really.
	The guy just.
	It's like his whole aura, his whole presence, everything about him.
	It's just, man, it'll turn a bad day around for sure.
	He really will.
	He really is grateful, man.
	He's grateful.
	He's fun to watch.
	His story's been cool, man.
	He's got a really cool story.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, it's great, dude.
	And yeah, you guys are going to be touring for how long?
	Most of next year or what?
	Yeah, we're doing a bunch of festivals and stuff.
	And then hopefully getting a tour in towards the end of the year, maybe.
	Planning on a new record.
	So if we get that out, get a new tour going, all the goods.
	And any new songwriters you want to work with or anything like that?
	Or what's that look like?
	One night I called you and Ernest working together.
	Yeah, me and Ernest were out in, I think we're out in El Paso whenever you go.
	Y'all were fucking.
	He said he saw an alien or something.
	He could have been high.
	Could have been high.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	There's no telling what peyote or anything else out there, bro.
	But yeah, man, I mean, I've started co-writing with a lot of people, man.
	And this last record was the first time that I've done it.
	So, yeah, man, I think it's kind of just kind of open to brand new ideas and stuff, man.
	Just trying to do what's best for us.
	Has it been hard for you to evolve?
	is that a tough thing to change to do as an artist?
	To like think, okay, I'm going to co-write or I'm not, or is that, do you like have certain like kind of rules for yourself and then those change or do you not have any rules for yourself?
	It was at first to start with the co-writes because I've wrote, you know, my first four records were completely just me.
	And then so to get into co-writing was kind of a hard ordeal.
	And then now I've accepted a lot more.
	I feel like it's easier on me, especially with the headspace I'm in and so much that's going on.
	It helps to have other people's ideas, you know, outside, outside looking in.
	So, yeah, man, it's been a lot of fun.
	Like I said, with Gabe Simon and all these badass artists around here, man.
	Dude, I met him with Dermot Kennedy.
	I think.
	Bring a picture of him up.
	I think they were writing together.
	Probably.
	Gabe Simon.
	He works with No Kong and a couple other.
	Oh, Gabe.
	I don't think that's him.
	All right.
	No, no, that's him.
	Sorry, sorry.
	That is Gabe.
	That is another guy that I met, but I would like to meet him sometime.
	Small world.
	I look forward to meeting Gabe Simon.
	He's a great dude, man.
	No, this is okay.
	Now I feel like an idiot, but that's okay.
	It was a different Gabe that I believe played with Dermot Kennedy over there.
	We went to the Bluebird over there and watched him play.
	Yeah, well, I just think that's interesting because, yeah, it's like I always want to do things on my own, right?
	Yeah, for sure.
	And I was like, oh, I'll do it on my own.
	But then things kind of change.
	You're like, I can't do it all now.
	Yeah, for sure.
	And so then I'm like, now I have to evolve a little bit.
	Yeah, for sure.
	And I've always been like, I hate to ask people for help on anything.
	Like, that's just how I'm wired.
	But sometimes, you know, I mean, it, you know, you kind of got to push your pride aside and say hell with it.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	And then that's the times when you really kind of things you get better, you know.
	Honestly, yeah.
	Yeah.
	Usually when I end up including other people, and then I'm not doing anything alone, I think.
	That's the thing that's, that's a bummer.
	Sometimes I think about like, it's not like, I think sometimes I would like to get married, you know, or something.
	I said that, but I think it's because otherwise you do stuff and you don't have anybody to tell about.
	You're like, oh, I just, this was fun, but it was by myself.
	I'm like, well, shit, dude.
	And then your wife, one day your wife or whatever is going to be like, shut up.
	I wasn't there.
	Please stop telling me about this shit.
	Yeah.
	I wasn't there, dude.
	I think that's good, man.
	I think we've had a nice chat.
	Hell yeah.
	That was awesome.
	Co, congratulations, dude.
	Yeah, we look forward to just hearing more music and just watching your journey, man.
	Yeah, it's fucking tough to grow up, dude.
	Don't do it all overnight, dude.
	Yeah, not all overnight.
	Yeah, we'll just keep easing into it.
	Okay.
	Hey, man.
	New Christmas Christmas album out now and his album Nine Lives.
	Thanks again, Cole.
	Have a good one, man.
	Appreciate it.
	Yeah, Merry Christmas.
	Now, I'm just floating on the breeze, and I feel I'm falling like these leaves.
	I must be cornerstone.
	Oh, but when I reach that ground, I'll share this peace of mind I found.
	I can feel it in my bones.

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