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Oct. 30, 2024 - This Past Weekend - Theo Von

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E541 BigXthaPlug

BigXthaPlug is a rapper from Dallas, Texas. His new album “Take Care” is streaming everywhere, and you can catch him on tour now through the rest of the year. BigXthaPlug joins Theo to chat about his recent rise in popularity and the changes that came with it, how he manages being a dad and a rapper at the same time, and why he might be down to go on a test voyage to space. BigXthaPlug: https://www.instagram.com/bigxthaplug/?hl=en ------------------------------------------------ Tour Dates! https://theovon.com/tour New Merch: https://www.theovonstore.com ------------------------------------------------- Sponsored By: Kalshi: Bet on the election! Get a free $20 bonus with a $100+ deposit http://kalshi.com/theo Celsius: Go to the Celsius Amazon store to check out all of their flavors. #CELSIUSBrandPartner #CELSIUSLiveFit https://amzn.to/3HbAtPJ Manscaped: Go to http://manscaped.com and use code THEO to get 20% off and free shipping. BlueChew: Go to http://bluechew.com and use code THEO to get your first month free - just pay $5 shipping. Shopify: Go to http://shopify.com/theo to sign up for a $1-per-month trial period. BetterHelp: go to http://betterhelp.com/theo to get 10% off your first month. ------------------------------------------------- Music: “Shine” by Bishop Gunn Bishop Gunn - Shine ------------------------------------------------ Submit your funny videos, TikToks, questions and topics you'd like to hear on the podcast to: tpwproducer@gmail.com Hit the Hotline: 985-664-9503 Video Hotline for Theo Upload here: https://www.theovon.com/fan-upload Send mail to: This Past Weekend 1906 Glen Echo Rd PO Box #159359 Nashville, TN 37215 ------------------------------------------------ Find Theo: Website: https://theovon.com Instagram: https://instagram.com/theovon Facebook: https://facebook.com/theovon Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/thispastweekend Twitter: https://twitter.com/theovon YouTube: https://youtube.com/theovon Clips Channel: https://www.youtube.com/c/TheoVonClips Shorts Channel: https://bit.ly/3ClUj8z ------------------------------------------------ Producer: Zach https://www.instagram.com/zachdpowers Producer: Trevyn https://www.instagram.com/trevyn.s/ Producer: Nick https://www.instagram.com/realnickdavis/ Producer: Cam https://www.instagram.com/cam__george/ Producer: Colin https://instagram.com/colin_reiner Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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	I have some tour dates upcoming to tell you about Bloomington, Indiana, November 13th, Columbus, Ohio, Champaign, Illinois over there in Illinois, Grand Rapids, Michigan, Lafayette, Louisiana, and Beaumont, Texas.
	There are some tickets still available, theovon.com slash T-O-U-R.
	Make sure to go through that link so you're getting fair priced tickets.
	Today's guest is a rapper out of Dallas, Texas.
	He has his new album, Take Care, which he's on tour with right now.
	He has hit songs, Texas, Whip It, Mm-hmm, and others.
	We're grateful for his time.
	Today's guest is Big X, The Plug.
	I love this guy.
	And now I've been moving well.
	Where'd you just come from?
	From touring?
	I'm going to move this down on you with Touch, but where'd we just come from?
	Louisville, Kentucky.
	Oh, yeah.
	That's sir.
	How was that?
	All right.
	Yeah, it was good.
	It was good.
	Man, I didn't think.
	Was it soda?
	No.
	But it was packed.
	95%.
	Yeah, it was crazy, though.
	They got a lot of horses up there, too.
	I've been to the horse track up there.
	Yeah, I was just going to say they do like derbies and stuff?
	Yeah.
	It's nice.
	Some of the horses are strong.
	Some of them aren't that strong.
	What else has been going on?
	Yeah, I was just up in Montana.
	We had some shows up there.
	I met some Native Americans up there.
	You ever met any Native Americans?
	Like a real life one?
	I don't think so.
	I don't think so.
	We met a couple up there.
	They're pretty cool, man.
	We were at AutoZone up there, and they had a couple Native Americans up there, and we met them.
	And yeah, they're just wild.
	And they have a lot of good weed, too, a lot of times.
	Oh, okay, man.
	Yeah, I probably would have bumped into a few or five.
	But I heard it's beautiful out there, Shibuza.
	That's one of my close friends.
	And he was just out there shooting a video.
	And he was like, bro, I think I'm going to move out here.
	It's crazy out here.
	He's so nice.
	I got to make sure I stop by there for sure.
	Yeah, it looks like you're like on a nut, like, I mean, it looks like you're on this planet, but on it, just like on the best parts of it.
	You look out there, and they got all kind of exotic animals, too, out there.
	That's why I think, yeah, Native Americans have the best weed.
	I've always heard that.
	I never gotten to smoke any with them.
	They got that shit that'll bring your dead relatives back.
	You know, they got that real, they got that suicide or gas on them.
	Do I want to smoke that?
	Do you bring your dead relatives back?
	Do you want to smoke that?
	That's true.
	I mean, I guess if you owe somebody some money, maybe you just let them be where they're at.
	Yeah, yeah, no, for sure.
	Yeah.
	And they had the best pets, too.
	Think about it.
	Native Americans had the best pets, man.
	Falcon, buffalo, eagles.
	I'm scared of all that type of stuff.
	Really?
	I'm scared of any animal that's for one bigger than me.
	Like horses, cows, I'm terrified of them.
	Yeah, that makes sense.
	And then just eagles and all that stuff, like, you can't really do nothing about those.
	So if they fly down and grab you and rip skin off, you can't do nothing to them.
	So yeah, nah, I don't do bugs.
	I don't do exotic lizards.
	I don't do snakes.
	I don't.
	Really?
	I could see you with a nice bird, man.
	With a bird?
	Yeah.
	I do have a bird.
	My daughter's name.
	Her nickname is bird.
	So that's as good as it gets.
	I was terrified right there.
	Oh, wow.
	Yeah, I was terrified.
	You see how far away are you from North?
	Oh, it is?
	Yeah, yeah, you kept your distance.
	Wow.
	Did you even FaceTime with that thing first or they just brought him straight in?
	They just brought it.
	They just brought it.
	Yeah, that kind of stuff is a lot, man.
	Horses make me nervous too.
	They're just so big and you don't trust them, you know?
	Exactly.
	And I don't trust anything that only can see out of the side of its head.
	That too.
	That too.
	You know, that's how I really feel about a lot of animals.
	But did you ever have any pets growing up?
	Yeah, a lot of dogs.
	Oh, yeah.
	What kind of y'all have?
	Ry Wallers.
	Right now I have a Cane Corsau.
	I have two pocket bullies.
	I had a Frenchie.
	But just, yeah, yeah.
	Yeah, that actually looks just like my dog Sasha that's at the house right now with the white patches and everything.
	And does y'all have a chain on it?
	No.
	No, she's horrible.
	She's bad.
	Really?
	Yeah.
	Can you even pet her or no?
	Yeah, no, you can pet her or whatnot, but she just, if she don't know you, she's going to go crazy.
	Oh, God.
	But once she smells you and she's good, then you locked in.
	I wouldn't even risk it.
	See, I get scared getting high around dangerous animals.
	That's one of my big things.
	You know, I would have sometimes trouble smoking with the brothers when I was young because a lot of them would bring a dog with them.
	And if we got high, it just made me too nervous, man.
	I had to get out of my own car and leave everybody in there one time.
	Damn.
	Because I couldn't handle it.
	Well, you might want to stay away from that weed in Montana.
	Yeah, I stay off that native stuff, man.
	Thank you so much for joining us, bro.
	No, for sure.
	It's a blessing to be here.
	Yeah, congratulations on all your success, man.
	Appreciate you.
	It's exciting.
	Yeah, I love listening to your songs.
	They all have this beginning that kind of creates this, like, it almost feels like it's a start of a movie.
	It's like before you come in with the lyrics, it's like there's this, each one has like this ambiance that gets going.
	Who makes that?
	How do y'all make that choice?
	Like, how does that happen?
	But I just, I've been with the same producer for about two, three years now, Ban Play, Tony Cole.
	And so we can kind of just know each other's souls at this point.
	And so they just, you know, they go based off of what they feel like I would mess with in a song, and then they go from there.
	Tony, pick out the sample, Ban Play, do the 808s, all the beatings on it, and just go.
	They know I like, I'm a build-up person.
	So that beginning, that's my build-up.
	Yeah, it almost feels kind of romantic in the beginning, some of them.
	Get you in the mood, get you ready, and make you want to hear what I'm about to say.
	The video with the skydiving, y'all really skydive in it?
	No, I would never skydive in my life.
	Really?
	Oh, you can go down quick.
	Bungee jump.
	I'm one of those people who believe in like, I just feel like I would have a heart attack before I got here.
	You know, I would faint or something, so now I can't pull my stream.
	So I'd just rather not do it.
	I'd just rather not do it.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, yeah.
	I don't know why some people do it.
	I wonder if they have a lot of, yeah, the video, that was so tough, man.
	How did y'all shoot it, though?
	Did you guys have like a fake chop or something?
	A fake plane, a lot of air, and great acting.
	Anybody want me in the movie?
	There you go.
	Yeah, you could be in like a paratrooper movie, man.
	And it don't look like I feel that fast.
	It actually looks like I feel at a decent rate.
	There you go, there it went.
	I would drop fast right then.
	It did seem like you were that, because I was kind of, when I was watching that, because usually if people are really flying, you see their cheeks going like that.
	And I was like, man, it seemed like he's kind of going at a casual speed.
	But that's when you got a vibe, bro.
	When you can skydive at a casual speed.
	When you can do it your own way.
	What's happening in Texas, man?
	Still hot.
	How has your life changed over there?
	Like, even in the past two years, probably.
	I mean, for me, it hasn't really changed.
	I still do the same daily stuff I would do if I was home.
	But of course, everybody know me now.
	So now instead of going to Walmart, I now have to do curbside pickups.
	Now, you know, this is stuff like that.
	But as far as me and my home and my family, ain't nothing really changed.
	We still, everybody kick it when we can.
	You know, if not, I'm at home with my kids, chilling.
	You know, nothing too major.
	I don't, I'm as basic as it get.
	You know, I don't treat myself like a superstar or nothing like that.
	Does it feel overwhelming sometimes with people knowing you as much?
	Is it sometimes a little bit like, what is it like?
	Does it feel kind of like alarming sometimes?
	Does it feel like what you thought it would feel like?
	Because a lot of people don't get to have that much popularity, right?
	So it's interesting when it does happen to somebody because it's just a rare thing.
	I mean, as far as like, I was popular in school, but then it's like after that era faded out, I started doing stuff that it's like you kind of don't want people to know who you are.
	And now it's like, I got to let people get this close to me before I know if they're a friend or foe.
	So of course it bothered me, but I mean, it come with the job.
	So I just got to keep big guys like him around me.
	Yes, sir.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, that's a good choice there.
	And yeah, is it more dangerous?
	Because I think it's funny.
	Sometimes if you're just like a regular guy, nobody will try to shoot you.
	But then when you're a rapper, people try to shoot you.
	Yeah, yeah, you definitely.
	It's just a lot of, you know, just like it's God in the world, it's devil.
	You know, it's the devil too, man.
	You know, the paths that some people decide to take is not always the right one.
	So, you know, you just got to kind of be prepared for it.
	Yeah, you're a target because everybody feel like you got all this money, all of this.
	People don't even know.
	Like, so a lot of these major artists, all they have is that chain in that watch.
	I don't got no money, you know, so you just did what you did for that chain and a watch.
	Me, I try to treat everybody as equal.
	So like when a person walk up on me, I'm going to give you that picture.
	I'm going to talk to you as if you're a normal person because that's what makes somebody want to get you.
	When you, nah, I'm good.
	You know, that's what set, when you show them that separation, that's when they want what you want.
	You're too fancy, yeah.
	Exactly, exactly.
	For rappers, it just feels like dang.
	It just feels a little bit more dangerous, I feel like, you know?
	Like, do you have to keep like an EMT with, like, like, do your people know CPR and your team and stuff like that?
	Or what is it like?
	I ain't gonna lie, fellas.
	If it gets to that point, don't y'all put y'all lips on me.
	Come on, bro.
	Don't y'all put your lips on me.
	Y'all find the nearest woman and y'all teach her how to do it, but don't y'all put y'all lips on me.
	Bro, you're gonna have some girl sitting there watching a YouTube.
	Yeah, yeah, no, I can't go through that.
	Bro, you ain't gonna feel it, bro.
	You're gonna be just.
	But when I come to, that's a question you gotta ask.
	You know, when you come to and you say, what happened?
	There's gonna be that guy that's in the back of the room like, you know, and I don't want to deal with that.
	Yeah, that's true.
	You're gonna have to look him in the eyes.
	You have to.
	You don't know whether to say thank you or let's fight.
	Hey, chill, bro.
	Exactly, exactly.
	Hey, next time, I ask first.
	And then my partner's so funny that they ain't gonna do nothing.
	Make a joke about it.
	I almost died.
	And y'all talking about some, but y'all kids know who y'all kids.
	You alive, but your little zest did not.
	Just find the nearest woman.
	Find the nearest woman for me.
	I don't care how old she is.
	Just find the nearest woman, please.
	Yeah, that's what I just wonder.
	I think I would keep, if I was in the rapper, I would have somebody, bow and arrow, somebody with a couple choppers on them, everything.
	Dracos, everything.
	Guns, fucking little ninja things.
	Yeah, fucking whatever that would have hell, bro.
	Magic metal, fucking ninja stars, all of that shit, boy.
	I mean, you just, you know, you just pray for the best.
	Axe, I would have everything, bro.
	I'd have somebody just walking around look like they were in one of those video games where they have all the weapons behind them like that.
	Like when they get ready to go to war, they pack all of the weapons, but then they don't use none of them.
	Yeah, I know.
	Even cops now, they got so many things on them.
	They got a taser.
	They got a gun.
	They got a slingshot.
	They got a pepper spray.
	They got a fucking, you know, a thing of marbles.
	They got all kind of shit on them, bro.
	You'll see.
	I've never seen an officer with a bag of marbles.
	But they got so many things now, bro.
	He got a camera.
	They got a little spatula.
	You know, a thing of just breath mints.
	Dude, he's just shooting Mentos at people.
	You know, they got...
	Yeah, no, yeah.
	They do.
	They got to chase people there.
	Yeah, that's crazy.
	On top of the VIS.
	That's already happened.
	Yeah, they're built like a 7-Eleven and they got to run around and chase everybody down.
	It's too much.
	Everybody would get away from me if I was the police.
	I'll catch you eventually.
	Hey, I'll catch you in the future.
	Yeah, let me see you again.
	I wouldn't, yeah, no.
	Did you, what was like a first job that you had, man?
	My first ever job was Taco Kabema.
	I was 16. I was getting paid $7.
	I was supposed to get paid $7.25, but when I started working my first day, he said, $7.25, no, you're too good of a worker.
	I pay you $7.50.
	Really?
	And I just thought I was that guy.
	$7.50?
	That was my first ever check.
	My first check was like $200, two weeks' work.
	Bro, when you got that first check, it was nice, huh?
	No, I was so upset.
	It was like $200, $300.
	Two weeks of work.
	Yeah, I was so mad.
	But I kept going.
	I kept going.
	And how long were you in over there at Cabana?
	Maybe like a month, maybe a month and a half.
	Damn, you didn't keep going at all.
	I've never had a job over four or five months.
	Really?
	What was it about it, you think?
	Y'all have some, like, was it contractual issues?
	What was the deal over there?
	As bad as it sounds, it's just something about somebody telling me what to do.
	You know what I'm saying?
	Especially in that aspect.
	It's like, you're not even the big dog.
	You work for them just like I work for them.
	And you're sitting here telling me what to do.
	Exactly.
	I just always felt like I watched my mom and my pops growing up.
	They was all there entrepreneurs.
	So they was their own bosses.
	And here I am working at Taco Cabeta getting paid $7.50 when I would rather be my own boss.
	So I think that's probably me having that first job is probably what made me start wanting to do stuff to just be my own entity, my own boss, because that was horrible.
	Having somebody telling you when to come in, telling you what to do at the job.
	I just, I couldn't do it.
	Yeah.
	I couldn't do it.
	And was any of the food pretty good or was it like?
	Yeah, yeah, they used to have this little, I don't even know what the bowl is called, but it's like a bowl shell.
	Like it's a bowl, but it's like the bowl is a shell.
	And inside of that, you got like your meats, your guacamole, your rice, beans.
	I like all that.
	You can just crush the bowl.
	Exactly.
	Hey, whoever's doing that is doing a great job.
	Oh, we about to pay that dude $7.50 an hour, I'll tell you that.
	We keep it in.
	Get in the job.
	Get in the job.
	God, remember that?
	That's like a little magic hat or something filled with a down.
	A little Thanksgiving and a little Mexican Thanksgiving in there.
	That was my, every time I would leave work, that's what I was taking with me.
	Yep.
	Cabana bow.
	And what y'all had dessert choices up there, too?
	Sopapia's.
	Oh, yeah.
	Sopa Pias.
	God, bro.
	With the ice cream with them?
	Not ice cream, but like it's some little icing at the head.
	I love those.
	But yeah, sopapias.
	That was my first time ever having a sopa pia was at that job.
	It's my favorite thing to make there.
	Yeah.
	You got to drop it in some grease, come out, like the little perfect little square thing, dip it in the sauce.
	You good?
	Oh, yeah.
	And y'all could smoke on the job.
	Was that allowed or not?
	No.
	And this was, I was a football player at that time, so I wasn't really just smoking.
	I was on the whole, some old other stuff.
	See, whenever I had jobs, it's when I was kind of like on a different path.
	Whenever I didn't have a job, it was a different path.
	I was trying to be my own boss at that time.
	What was, you said one of your folks, they had their own business.
	What was their business they had?
	I mean, it wasn't nothing that you could write off on your taxes.
	You know, you could do taxes or whatnot, you know.
	Yeah, yeah, and they paid the bills.
	They got the bills paid.
	Nobody fell out of W-9.
	Nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah.
	But the bills was paid.
	It was clothes on my back, and it was the roof over my head, so I can't complain about it.
	Yeah, not at all, man.
	Are your parents still married or no?
	No.
	They was broke up before I even came out of the womb.
	Oh, wow.
	But, you know, they still good friends.
	They both helped take care of me.
	Maybe the man I am today.
	So, I mean, it worked out for me.
	When you had, because you have how many children?
	You said you have one daughter?
	I have a newborn little girl.
	She's about to be eight months.
	And I got a little boy.
	He's about to be six.
	Nice.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Oh, I think I saw one of your videos, maybe.
	Oh, that's cool.
	That's my dog right there.
	Is he cool?
	Yeah.
	Yeah, what does he like to do?
	Cause havoc.
	So my little boy got autism.
	So he's just real.
	He's him.
	He's the one.
	He'll sit here and be quiet one moment.
	And then the next moment he trying to take something from you and run around with it.
	He just, he a character, man.
	He is our entity within himself.
	Yeah, Carter.
	Oh, he's a handsome guy.
	Just like his daddy.
	So autism, does he have like, is it almost really interesting having a child with autism?
	Because it almost seems like it's more of a complex relationship.
	So they're actually, actually, one of the smartest kids in the world, smartest people in the world.
	Oh, yeah.
	Elon Musk had all his guys out of autism, the guys that are making all the machinery now.
	You got to have autism even get a damn job at some of these points.
	So like with him, it's more like of his speech.
	Like I could tell him, turn on the TV.
	I could ask him what you want to watch.
	He can point it out.
	It's just his speech.
	It's like his words that auto anything.
	But if you tell him, I love you, he'll say, I love you.
	Like he can repeat anything you say, whether it's good or bad, he can repeat it.
	It's just like he can't put it all together himself.
	You know what I'm saying?
	But he's as normal as could be.
	He's smart as, I don't know what.
	Any kid that can, that knows how to jump a fence, you see what I'm saying, to go get in the pool, that knows how to say, I want to go to dad's house.
	And then when he gets to dad's house, say, pool.
	I only came here for the pool.
	He knows how to get in.
	I didn't have to put thumbprint codes on my pantries because when he was with his mom, he eats like a lot of organic foods.
	And when he come to dad's house, you got the good snacks.
	So now he knows how to get in my pantry and climb up.
	Yeah, Carter is a character, but that's my dog, man.
	That's my dog.
	Were you scared about having children when you was going to have them?
	Like, cause I would like to have children.
	I don't have any yet, but I would like to have some.
	But sometimes I'm like, man, is it just going to be such a big change?
	I mean, you got to leave a legacy.
	I've always wanted to.
	I grew up in big families.
	So on my dad's side, whenever we did Christmas together, everybody was spending the night at Grandma's house.
	Everybody was, like, my granny got, I got what?
	One, two, three.
	My granny got five kids.
	My dad got six kids.
	You know what I'm saying?
	Like, so that just, it's just big over there.
	And on my mom's side, everybody just got kids.
	So it's just, I just grew up in big families, so I knew I always wanted a big family.
	I didn't think I was going to start as early as I did, but I really feel like I'm doing better because my mom and my dad, they was, my mom was 15, my dad, you see what I'm saying?
	Yeah, a lot of, we had, in our, yeah, in our town, a lot of the young, a lot of the sisters, they got a little bit pregnant.
	Early, yeah, yeah, yeah.
	Yeah, you didn't even, we didn't even know.
	We thought a lot of them just got kind of thick or whatever.
	Like one summer or whatever, and then we were like, damn, everybody's thick all of a sudden.
	Yeah, everybody got that baby.
	Yeah, and everybody had it, then they all had a baby.
	Yeah, they had a lot of them babies in our area.
	Yeah, I think that would be the wild thing.
	So were you already rapping when you had your son?
	No.
	Wow.
	So was it kind of nervous, like, how I'm going to take care of him, or it wasn't like it wasn't.
	I was sleeping.
	I was at my granny house sleeping on the couch.
	I had just got a job at UPS.
	Oh, yeah.
	They got good benefits over there.
	No, man, not unless you're a manager or like something to that sort.
	Or you got to work there a certain amount of time.
	It's not good.
	It's not good.
	But, yeah, I had just, I was staying in Austin, Texas.
	Whenever I went to school, got kicked out of school.
	I went to stay to Austin, Texas with the mother of Carter.
	And I went to jail, got out.
	Where she was staying at, I wasn't supposed to go to no more.
	Oh, yeah.
	I had a restraint order from the apartment complex.
	Because what I had did was in the apartment complex.
	So when I got out, we did what we did the one last time.
	I left to go back to Dallas.
	She called me three months later, telling me that she was pregnant.
	Wow.
	I said, I'm sleeping on the couch in my granny house.
	And all I could tell her was, all right, bet, I'm finna move you out here.
	I'm on somebody's couch right now.
	You can come sleep on this couch with me, but I'm going to get us right.
	She came, I think she slept on the couch with me maybe two, three weeks.
	Damn.
	And then I had a self-apartment.
	It wasn't no furniture.
	Them first week or two, we slept.
	We slept on each other's lap.
	What?
	On a pallet on the floor.
	I'll be the chair.
	You be the chair.
	Take turns.
	Exactly.
	But we made it work.
	Wow.
	That's wild, man.
	That takes some commitment, huh?
	Yeah, that's why she's forever taking care of.
	We're not even together now.
	She got everything she could think of.
	You know what I'm saying?
	Times 10. You have a lot of respect for her, it sounds like.
	For sure, for sure.
	If it wasn't for her, I probably wouldn't be here.
	Yeah.
	And that's just me being honest.
	What did you go to jail?
	Did you say you went to jail?
	What did you go to jail for?
	Well, how about this?
	What were the holidays like in jail?
	What holiday did I spend in jail?
	Did I spend the holiday?
	I think I spent, oh, I did.
	I spent Thanksgiving in jail.
	Oh, yeah.
	What's it like?
	Do people get up early?
	Is there anything special like on that?
	You know what?
	Now that I think about it, though, I was in solitary confinement, though, for that Thanksgiving.
	So, boom.
	No, no, no, no.
	Yeah, yeah, I was.
	I was.
	Yeah, I was.
	So, it was just a bunch of screaming from door to door.
	Would you just hear people's voices?
	Do people at least sing like a...
	You know what I'm saying?
	So they actually do scream and do all that stuff and either.
	But they scream anything special like because it's Thanksgiving?
	That's what I'm wondering.
	Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
	I was screaming something special on the day I got out.
	It was a Tuesday.
	Like the day I was supposed to go to Court, it was a Tuesday.
	So when I woke up to take my shower, I was just, I was singing.
	Singing it.
	Tuesday.
	Tuesday.
	Like, if you've ever seen Norby, he was in the shower knowing that he had to go to the water park for the old girl on a Tuesday.
	That's exactly how it was.
	Everybody that was in that room was just dying laughing.
	It's a happy day, dude.
	It was a happy day.
	Wow.
	So, yeah, Thanksgiving.
	What about Halloween?
	Were you in there?
	No.
	Nah, Halloween, I was out.
	Thanksgiving, yeah.
	So do y'all get a special meal or like is there any...
	Do y'all go around the table and like say what you're thankful for or anything like that?
	Nah, I doubt that's how it went.
	You see, there you go.
	Oh.
	Who are those guys?
	I don't know them.
	Oh.
	I don't know them.
	Yeah, look, I mean, it definitely, yeah, it seems, yeah, I guess it wouldn't be the best.
	Like, it wouldn't be the best.
	Like, really, holidays in jail, I feel like they're not really celebrated because that's the time where everybody wishes they was with their family.
	You know what I'm saying?
	So that's when everybody, it's kind of intense because everybody is upset.
	Everybody want to be with their kids, their moms, you know what I'm saying?
	So everybody just kind of try to get through the day.
	Yeah, that's a good point.
	I ever thought about that.
	You kind of almost pretend like it's not that day.
	Exactly.
	Did they have like a lot of gay activity in jail?
	Did you see any of it?
	Or you hear about it sometimes on the show?
	There was one gay experience for me in jail.
	And there was an older dude that had, he was in there from stealing a bunch of wood from Home Depot.
	Damn.
	Probably going to build him a little gay hut.
	I don't know, but he had been in there.
	He had been in there.
	I don't think nobody knew that he was like that or whatever, but you could tell he had been down a lot.
	He done went to jail a bunch of times.
	Yeah, yeah.
	And there was a guy that came in there that was a dentist, but he was a member of the LGBTQ community.
	Okay.
	And he came in with nothing.
	Like, he was from, this is right when...
	Yeah, but he was an illegal dentist.
	You see what I'm saying?
	So he knew how to do teeth, but he didn't have.
	He didn't have a storefront.
	Or the paperwork or anything.
	You know what I'm saying?
	Exactly.
	He just knew how to do.
	But he was from Mexico.
	This is when they were.
	And so my power was a bunch of illegals, and he was one of the illegals, but he just happened to be a part of the LGBTQ, you know what I'm saying?
	Right, he was a gay gentleman, but he also is a, he did, he did dental.
	And he would do dental in the That's how he got arrested.
	When he got pulled over, he had a bunch of dentist equipment and dentist stuff in his trunk.
	And he just, there was no license.
	Wow.
	Yeah.
	So that's what got him.
	But then on top of that, like I said, he was illegal.
	Yeah.
	So, but yeah, he didn't have nothing and the og the old school he had some stuff and so he just basically took care of him and he had to take care of him so it was just kind of like a prison kind of a love story almost exactly and we weren't even in prison we was just in jail but that yeah that kind of that messed me up though yeah that messed me up yeah so but even then at least you get to see somebody having some romance i guess that's almost i didn't see anything yeah or you get to or
	i guess it's yeah i don't know i didn't see anything i just you know you kind of put you start to put two and two together but i bet some people get a little bit envious of like oh at least he got somebody you know i mean i'll hey i don't know i didn't think that way yeah i just you know me neither dude i just but it's yeah but that's love is love though yeah if people are in for a long time i could see how if somebody's in for a long time and they're not going to get out they say i'm just going to have to figure this out over here and
	call i mean if you in jail for the if you in prison for the rest of your life no i can't even say that because then that insinuates that if i was to ever go to prison for the rest of my life then i yeah so i don't know we're here now yeah yeah happy thanksgiving happy thanksgiving wow man yeah i guess i wonder what the holidays are like in there and stuff like that but um is there anything that you miss wait what's the difference between jail and prison i've never been to prison so i can't really tell you how how
	bad prisons get but from what i've heard it's just i mean you gotta it's it's see jail you're possibly going home you know what i'm saying like you you you can can go home prison you know you're there for a little bit so that's when it's more hostile it's more gangs it's more oh you know what i'm saying that's where that stuff takes a play in like the the gang wars and then the the racial stuff that stuff is real in prison you know i hate all that some people say that the
	the feds is better than prison just because of the strength it's for one i guess a lot more people with money there so and it's just a lot more stuff there like tablets you know well i mean everybody got tablets now even in even in prison they got tablets yeah but it's just you know what i'm saying for a while swings with recess type outdoor stuff that's i i've never been to prison i've never been to the feds so i don't know i'm just going off of what i've been told but i know if jail suck prison gotta be worse yeah and
	the feds gotta be worse than that damn you know so it's just like but if i ever go down and do some time i'd rather go to the feds because it's they just look like they they're not free but they're freer yeah a little more relaxed yeah exactly exactly yeah i don't know if i'm gonna ever go to prison or not i mean i you know overall i would probably i would hope i didn't yeah but don't try me yeah no for sure for sure so that's how i think about some of that they say first impressions are important what about lasting
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	at least kept you some motivation so you said like you learned that okay i don't really like working for somebody else right and um i know that you played football for a while when did you like think like then rap is something i have to do did it just kind of turn on for you i mean i think you're obviously a good communicator so you have that that was built into you when did it start to become lyrical for you so uh remember i told you i was in solitary confinement for thanksgiving i had missed my son first birthday being in
	jail and so when i got out i knew i never wanted to work a real job obviously and on top of that when i got out i just couldn't do what i was doing no more like all the street activity i was doing i had made a promise to my son that like you'll never not see a dad again i'll never miss another birthday i never miss another anything, even though I kind of told a story because here I am here and he's in Texas, you know what I'm saying?
	But this is me doing what I got to do to benefit him.
	You know what I'm saying?
	So, but yeah, yeah.
	So I got out, made the promises to him, and so I just had to figure it out.
	I had a, he's not my artist, but he also my cousin that was just a good friend at the time.
	He just was like, he'd been rapping since he was nine years old.
	He's your real cousin?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	And so he had been telling me forever, you need to rap, you need to rap, because we would do like little freestyle sessions and whatnot.
	And I would freestyle.
	And it'll be a group of us, but he'll just look at me and be like, bro, you need to rap for real.
	But I'm like, bro, you've been rapping since nine years old.
	You ain't blew up yet.
	Why would I do that?
	I'm not going to listen to you.
	Exactly.
	But whenever I got out and I just really didn't have nothing else, you know what I'm saying?
	Like what I was saying about, I was really trying to live up to that promise that I made to my son.
	So whenever he was like, rap, I was like, all right, bet.
	And I tried it, did maybe like three songs.
	I liked the feedback I got from it.
	You know what I'm saying?
	Just from our friend group.
	Then it went past that to just people that we knew from school.
	Then it went from that to people that we didn't know.
	And so I was just like, okay, just doing something.
	So you just gave it to friends first?
	Was it even like close friends?
	Or do you have like enough confidence?
	You're like, all right, I'm going to put this.
	I'm going to.
	I mean, of course, I just, I didn't even know how to drop music.
	Roe told me Distro Kit.
	So I just went through Distro Kit.
	But like I said, when I was dropping them, I was just telling my immediate friend group.
	Yeah.
	But then when I started noticing that I was getting tags and stuff from people that I didn't know.
	That's wild.
	Yeah, I was like, okay, this is doing a little something.
	It's doing a little something.
	Then just to walk around my own city and everybody know me, I go into any club, everybody knew me.
	I was like, all right, this is really, it's really happening.
	That's crazy.
	Yeah, then I got my first deal in like in six months, my first distribution deal, just under six months.
	So once that happened, I just went from there.
	I just, I seen, I had made a little bag off of it because I didn't touch a lot of money in my life, but I ain't never touched nothing.
	Like, I've never had $100,000 sitting in my hand at one point in time.
	Yeah.
	And when I did that distribution deal, I had that.
	And so I was like, me doing something non-illegal, I just touched $100,000 at one time.
	You must have been like, dang, this is it.
	Yeah.
	And then like three months later, I was broke.
	Would you be at a water slot or something?
	No, I just was, you know, doing for everybody.
	Everybody buys some wild shit when they get a little bit of money.
	No, they'll tell you, I didn't have no big chains.
	I didn't even want no chain.
	To this day, I wouldn't have this chain if they wouldn't tell me, bro, you got an image that you got to uphold.
	You're the biggest rapper in Texas.
	You can't.
	I never cared about none of that at first.
	I kind of got addicted after I started paying for it.
	Oh, yeah.
	You get some nice carpet or whatever.
	You get a rug, a nice table.
	You start buying all kind of shit and lamps.
	Exactly, exactly.
	Silverware with your name on it.
	Yeah, so with my name on it, it's crazy.
	But no, yeah.
	So I had the smallest change.
	I just was doing for people around me.
	I go in the mall.
	I couldn't even find nothing for me to wear in the mall.
	I would go to the mall to buy shoes and just tell my friends, hey, y'all get whatever y'all want.
	You know what I'm saying?
	Like, my mama, anytime she would ask for anything, giving it to my pops, anything, I was just doing it.
	You know what I'm saying?
	And then I looked up one day and I was down to like $25,000.
	I was like, oh, shit.
	And you got to pay taxes.
	She don't even think about that.
	I didn't think about none of that.
	I didn't think about none of that.
	And so I just had to, I really just put my foot down and grind it and I got it all back.
	And then next thing I know, that $100 went to, I just, we went crazy after that, you know, and so our independent, so all my money come to me.
	Hell yeah.
	We did good.
	Yeah, that's the same.
	We work for ourselves here, too.
	It's inspiring.
	I see a lot of guys out there like that, Lil Russell.
	You ever see him?
	Yeah, he go crazy.
	Bro, his bars are good, man.
	And he's so like inspirational.
	He's got this whole thing, man.
	He does have the shit in his back.
	He already sewing half the sweaters himself that he's slinging, man.
	He puts it together.
	He's really inspiring.
	I like watching him.
	Did you see that Trump thing that happened with the guy?
	What?
	Made the joke yesterday?
	I have not been in a debate situation at all, actually.
	Well, this is a comedian.
	They just had him in yesterday.
	This is Tony Hinchcliffe.
	He's a friend of mine, and he just said they put him up at Madison Square Gardens last night in New York City.
	They put him up to speak, and then this was a joke that he told.
	It's just everybody's going crazy about it today.
	I'm like, I don't know if you guys know this, but there's literally a floating island of garbage in the middle of the ocean right now.
	Yeah.
	I think it's called Puerto Rico.
	Okay.
	So that's the joke he told, right?
	At like a Madison Square Garden rally, I guess.
	So people are up in arms about it.
	Because a lot of people are Puerto Rican in New York.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, that was a very crazy statement.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, that seemed like a unique choice to me.
	But I don't know.
	I've made some poor choices, but I haven't made that one.
	I think we've all made a poor choice once before.
	I've made a ton.
	Do you guys, do you feel like Texas rocks with Trump, or do you feel like, are you a political guy?
	I'm not a political guy.
	I just, listen, I keep my head down.
	I make the money that I can make, how I can make it.
	As long as I can keep taking care of my kids, I don't care about what.
	You know, everything.
	Hey, we got to go to war.
	We got to go to war.
	We don't.
	We don't.
	You just got to be ready for whatever comes.
	You're a paratrooper, dude.
	Looking at that video of yours, we'll send you in.
	And I feel like I'm to the point now where they wouldn't even ask me.
	You know?
	Like, if the world was to end, you know how in all the world ending movies, there's always like those two ships or two boats.
	I think I've made it to get on one of those now.
	Like I'm on the list.
	Right, they're going to keep you.
	Exactly, like plus two.
	Yeah.
	And you have to bring your children, probably.
	Yeah, obviously.
	Obviously.
	Or do I bring two women so that I can repopulate?
	Start more children.
	Yeah.
	One kid, one woman.
	And the other kid.
	Nah, nah, nah.
	I got to take both my kids.
	I got to take both my kids.
	That's the best answer to end on, I think, for that.
	Yeah, people bet on it now.
	Two people betting on the election.
	They have, you ever seen this?
	So this, because a lot of it is, it's like, well, where's people's money at?
	Because that's where they're really, that's where you follow the money everywhere.
	Everywhere, that's where you really learn things, I find.
	And they have Calcy.
	This is a website where people bet on the election.
	And it's, yeah, Trump's at 62% now there.
	And Kamala is at 38%.
	What else do they have on there?
	Trevin, if you can bring something up.
	Oh, how many number one songs this year on Billboard?
	But you can bet on all types of stuff.
	Grammy nominations for album of the year.
	Who's at?
	Cowboy Carter.
	Casey has 93%.
	Casey Musgrave's Chris Stapleton.
	Will Big X win a Grammy, right?
	You could bet on that.
	You could bet on anything, you know?
	And they probably have some of it on there.
	But what is he at right now?
	What's it at right now?
	Go back.
	Oh, it's Trump 62%.
	And the money that's been bet, $86 million.
	That's crazy.
	That's crazy, bro.
	That is so crazy.
	Like, as your life has kind of taken some new turns, you've had new opportunities.
	Have there been any new mentors that have come into your life or like people that you start to see?
	Like, this person, I feel something that they're doing is interesting or I could learn from it.
	Yeah.
	And that you kind of have created relationships with yet?
	I keep my head down.
	I mean, I just recently did an interview with the Million Dollars Worth of Game, Wilo and Gilly.
	Yeah, I saw some of it.
	But, I mean, I don't really, I don't know, I'm not a big industry person, man.
	I'm not going to lie to you.
	I keep relationships that are meant to be kept.
	I'm not going to overextend myself.
	It's just got to be genuine.
	And a lot of this stuff is not genuine.
	Oh, yes, it works.
	I just kind of say to myself, I don't know.
	I feel like if anything, my biggest mentor is my son.
	You know what I'm saying?
	Just because I feel like you go through everything you're going through and you still, you get up and you smile every day.
	Even though you might not know what's going on, you just, you know, you get up and smile every day, not even knowing.
	You know what I'm saying?
	So I have to say him.
	Everybody else, I feel like, I don't know.
	I did everything that I've done to get here.
	I feel like I do it on my own.
	Yeah, you don't need, I guess, an industry.
	Yeah, maybe you're your own mentor.
	That's interesting.
	Your son could be your mentor in a way because it really is.
	A mentor is just kind of a source of inspiration kind of thing.
	No, for sure.
	Because his days, I don't want to get up and I don't want to do none of this.
	You know what I'm saying?
	But if my son can get up every day and go to school and have a bigger smile on his face and have good days, why can I not?
	Do you ever listen to Jelly Roll?
	You ever met Jelly Roll?
	Man, I've never met him, but I've heard that he loves me, man.
	I love Jelly Roll.
	Y'all would make us sick.
	Y'all could put something together.
	I don't know if you do that kind of stuff.
	You have some collabs, right?
	Yeah, bro.
	He's one of the most genuine dudes.
	I'm supposed to be doing a country tape next, and he's supposed to be on it.
	Yeah.
	Yes, sir.
	Yes, sir.
	Who else will be on it, you think?
	Shibuzzi maybe?
	Shibuzi, for sure.
	That's my dog.
	I think I got an unread text from him right now on my phone.
	I just texted him about it.
	I got to sit near him at a, we went to a women's basketball game.
	Don't tell anybody.
	But we went.
	But it was the Las Vegas Aces.
	29?
	I had no idea Shibuzi was 29. You're old, buddy.
	You're old.
	You're old.
	I thought he was my age.
	Shibuzi's 29. He a damn adult.
	I didn't know he was a Taurus, though.
	His birthday two days before mine.
	Oh, he's a damn Taurus as well.
	Yeah.
	Wow.
	But now he, he's, like I told you, it's not a lot of genuine stuff in this industry.
	And he, him and Ellie Chopper, it's just, as far as rappers, that's really, you know, just it.
	But like, they the most genuine guys.
	I can call in L.A. Chopper right now.
	He just called me the other day and thanked me because whenever he transitioned to that, if I was a bad, like he was on the way to go to Rolling Loud, because the first time he performed, it was at a Rolling Loud.
	I had just left Rolling Loud, so we had the same hotel.
	We had already done a song before then, but we was chopping it up, and in the back, you could hear the song playing.
	He had somebody in the back specifically holding a speaker to play that song.
	And, you know, a lot of people just didn't really understand what he had going.
	They didn't see where it – I don't know.
	He's set.
	But I just knew, you know what I'm saying, at the end of the day, as long as you're comfortable with doing what you're doing and you know your reasons behind doing what you're doing, then why not do it?
	Like, you young.
	At the end of the day, they doing all this other crazy stuff while you can't do it.
	And so he just basically thanked me the other day for just, you know, basically accepting, you know what I'm saying, what he had going, basically believing in what he had going.
	Like I said, that's my God, man.
	I got to get him on.
	He just reached out and said, thank you?
	Yeah, I swear.
	I was getting my haircut at my house.
	He called me.
	He was in Tokyo.
	He was in Japan.
	They getting him over there, I guess.
	It was broad daylight.
	They love everything.
	Yeah, it was broad daylight where he was.
	And it was dark where I was.
	You know what I'm saying?
	He was just calling me.
	He had just got the shower.
	He was like, yeah, man, I just want to let you know.
	I appreciate you.
	I thank you.
	But yeah, Shabuza, that's my dog.
	I was just with him in New York.
	I was trying to try to bring him out to the show today, but he in L.A. now.
	Yeah, he's all over.
	Yeah, we sat next to each other at a game.
	It was pretty good.
	Watching the Vegas Aces is good, man.
	Yeah, I got to go see a women's basketball game.
	I feel like it's more intense.
	I can relate to their games because I can't dunk.
	They can't dunk.
	Exactly, exactly.
	I feel it.
	So every time they're trying to dunk and they can, that's Ryan.
	You feel it.
	Yeah.
	I feel it.
	I feel it.
	I'm like, I know what these women are going through.
	I actually can dunk.
	My manager just didn't get footage of it.
	Really?
	Because he almost got fired that day as well.
	But I was just recently shooting the Prize Peaks commercial.
	Big shout out to Prize Peaks.
	And I dunked the ball.
	He really?
	I'm lying?
	We won't say what he said.
	No, he said, I'm not lying.
	You're not lying.
	I ducked the ball.
	Wow, really?
	I don't believe it.
	No, I believe it.
	This is why you needed the footage.
	I believe it.
	I believe it.
	This is why you needed the footage.
	So that's how I'm doing it.
	Drewski was there.
	Funny Marco was there.
	Wait, was Sketch there too?
	Yes.
	Yeah, Sketch and Drewski was there?
	Yes, sir.
	Oh, yeah.
	How was that?
	I heard it was good.
	It was all for prize picks.
	Yeah, it was long, but we got the drop.
	Yeah, yeah, I seen it before I said that.
	Yeah, now they're all great guys, man.
	Everybody's just genuinely funny from Spice Adams.
	That guy's hilarious.
	Spice Adams.
	I don't know him.
	That's the bring him up.
	Yeah, bring him up.
	There you go.
	Let me get a look at him.
	Spice Adams.
	No, he does like the old basketball.
	When you see him, you...
	Oh, wait, did he do the...
	But he goes by Spice.
	He goes by Spice now.
	Well, that's his basketball.
	That's Anthony Anderson, actually, for a second.
	I think that's a movie artist or something.
	Yeah, it is.
	Anthony Adams.
	You got to pull up one of his clips, like one of the basketball clips.
	Yeah, let's see if you can get one of them.
	I didn't even know he played professional football.
	He neither.
	Hell, I didn't even know he existed.
	I didn't know who he was.
	Spice Adams.
	Go to the video down to the right, far right, right there.
	Oh, dang, bro.
	We tried.
	We tried, Spice.
	Oh, there he is.
	He was a funny guy.
	Come on, now.
	He didn't do that, not did you?
	Who was he doing, Mike Apps?
	Nah, he's just saying this is how old the guys laugh.
	How old he is laughing at glucose mama jokes.
	Oh, no.
	But yeah, he a character, man.
	Druski.
	Everybody knows Druski a character scare.
	Druski's a vest, man.
	Me and Druski did a fake movie.
	It was like a fake movie that we made.
	This shit was messed up.
	So the family is called the Diggers is their last name, right?
	Druski wrote it.
	Okay.
	So we're at the one of them.
	The dad dies.
	It's Druski and his sister.
	They own, they're inheriting a funeral parlor.
	And then I'm married to Druski's sister.
	Okay.
	And so I'm getting part of the funeral parlor.
	Okay.
	And they're not happy about it.
	But anyway, we're at the funeral of the dad, the guy that died.
	And the last name is, his name was Nathan Digger, right?
	And so I had to make a speech in front of all these people.
	And it was like, man, I don't know if I can say this right now, but I was like, man, this is the best digger we ever had in the whole world, right?
	And it was a room full of black folks who didn't.
	I didn't know any of them.
	And Drewski and them are in the back just howling, bro.
	And I'm just having to keep, I had to do it like 15 times.
	Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
	Finally, I was like, man, I can't do this.
	It would have got awkward after a while.
	Yeah, bro.
	Right.
	Even if I know that you're saying this other word, after like the seventh time, it starts to sound like the other word, you know.
	Dude, it was, yeah, it got really scary even for a little while.
	But it was, Drewski's hilarious, dude.
	The video where he gets out of prison, that's Demon Home.
	You see?
	The demon.
	Oh, yeah.
	That's Lil Ray.
	That's Lil Ray.
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	Plug, they're sending a lot of people to space.
	Would you ever go to space if we needed you out there?
	A lot of people would have to go before me.
	Like you would have like a group of people would have like not the astronauts that like you would have because they said they're supposed to be building a hotel up there soon.
	Yeah.
	Somebody got to go stay in that hotel for a week and come back safely.
	And they got to check all their blood, you know, their vitals.
	And if everything good, I'd go on like the third or fourth group trip.
	You know what I'm saying?
	I'd go on that.
	I would.
	That'd be wild if you were out there.
	It would, because I would be lighter.
	Yeah.
	That's really where I want to go.
	Lean with it, rock with it, boy.
	Exactly.
	I have so many captions when I come back.
	Man.
	Yeah, I wonder if you could write different bars if you were in space because it would affect you differently.
	My mentor, right?
	Yeah.
	I can't say nothing about standing on business because I'm floating on business.
	I see what you're saying.
	Yeah, that'd be hard.
	We got to get us some space, man.
	First album written in space, that'd be tough.
	I'm on some Soldier Boy stuff now.
	First rapper to write an album in space.
	Yeah, I wonder, man.
	Big extraterrestrial.
	You could meet an alien out there.
	Do a lot of you believe in aliens?
	Do you believe in aliens, my friend?
	I don't know.
	Because you got to think, man.
	They got a lot of space out there, man.
	They do.
	Do I believe that there is another planet out there with life on it?
	Of course.
	I think so.
	Aliens, I think they might look just like us.
	Yeah.
	I think they might look just like us.
	They might just speak different.
	And yeah.
	Yeah.
	I ain't going to say they just look like I'm not going to say that, but.
	Yeah, like a teletubby or something.
	Yeah, they might look like.
	Yeah, I'm not going to do that.
	But they might look like the guy with the ears.
	Yeah.
	Him down there.
	Down there right there.
	They might look like that.
	Oh, damn.
	He looked like he cut his own hair.
	That guy cuts his own hair, man.
	What if they don't have to cut their hair?
	That's just how their hair naturally is.
	They just snap and it falls off how they want it to be.
	Wow.
	That's as alien as it'll get from me.
	Dude, we used to have a bus driver.
	He cut everybody's hair.
	He was the barber in our town.
	So like once a month, he'd pull the bus over, $2, everybody get cut up.
	$2?
	I don't know if I would want that haircut.
	Oh, it wasn't a great cut, but it was the only cut they had, man.
	It's like, what can you get for $2?
	I mean, you get what you get.
	He was just sitting a bowling out here and just cutting around it.
	Well, he could do it off of site.
	He didn't need a dishware or nothing, but he did it.
	He didn't have that much faith in himself, though, because $2, that don't even get you no dip.
	That don't get you nothing.
	But this was, man, this was 25 years ago, though, too, 22 years ago.
	So he had, yeah, he really, I thought he did a pretty good job, but he pulled that bus over, bam, everybody.
	How old are you?
	I'm 44. Really?
	I'm an adult, man.
	I'm going to die soon.
	I'm an adult.
	Man, you look good.
	Steen, thanks, man.
	I feel good, but I'm just getting older.
	I got to get a wife soon.
	Yeah.
	You're going to have to.
	I know.
	You don't have to.
	You don't think?
	Man, it's like part of me feel like this.
	I don't know, man.
	I got two women right now.
	And I just feel like I probably would be better with none right now, you know?
	Yeah.
	You know, because it's just like as it get better, it get worse.
	Yeah.
	But there's something also admirable about a guy that's able to make that work, though, too, I think.
	If I see that and a guy's able to make it work, that he's able to take care of his wife or ex-wife, I feel like there's almost something a little bit admirable about it.
	I struggle every day.
	I struggle every day.
	They see it.
	Every day I struggle.
	But, you know, I feel like it's making me a better person because now I feel like the past me didn't know how to treat women.
	Now that I got a daughter, it made me want to treat women better.
	And it will happen right when I have two women.
	So now I'm treating them both like queens, obviously.
	But it gets to a point where, you know, that's another combo.
	Look at everybody starting to listening.
	Yeah, that's another combo, man.
	That's something else, bro.
	Definitely take as much time as you need because once you get married, Sir Rap.
	You there.
	Sorry.
	My dad just told me he finna propose to his girlfriend on the Dallas date on stage.
	Uh-uh.
	And what song are you going to play a special song for him?
	If she says yes?
	I mean, he's the voice on Texas, so I'll probably just play Texas.
	First off, will you marry me?
	Dang.
	If you got to meet some aliens, what songs would you play for him, you think?
	Mm-hmm.
	Yeah.
	Mm-hmm.
	I'm from Texas.
	And what about some other artists?
	The biggest, the largest.
	Yeah.
	I would play for them.
	They would like that.
	But if they pull up with a big ass, large ass alien, you're going to have some competition, though.
	He's going to like the song, though.
	He's going to like the song.
	That's all I know.
	But I definitely would play some Lil Wayne.
	I would play.
	Yeah, dude.
	You got to play some Lil Wayne.
	We used to live not far from Juvenile, and he chased a woman down the street one night in our neighborhood.
	Oh, Jesus.
	We just said she did something wrong.
	Oh, I'm assuming she did.
	Yeah.
	And we can probably take that out.
	I don't want to hurt the guy's feelings.
	I don't know if that's still pending either.
	Yeah, I'm trying to think of what else, man.
	You've had so much success this year.
	Do you start to feel about different goals or you just kind of stay in the pocket you're in?
	Like, what do you feel like?
	Do you feel a responsibility to keep up with your own success now?
	Because that's interesting.
	Once you start to have some success, you almost set the bar for yourself without even realizing it, right?
	You're just trying to achieve some goals, but then you set a bar, kind of.
	I mean, like I said, I didn't come in this wanting to be the best rapper ever.
	I didn't even want to be a rapper.
	It was just something I had to do something to take care of my child.
	And so, like, it's just to the point where it's like, as long as I'm taking care of my child, I'm good.
	I still don't feel like I'm treating this as the NFL because I said I wanted to.
	I thought I was going to be a football player.
	The NFL stands for not for long.
	So I gave myself five years in this.
	I tell them every day, man, I can't wait to retire in this rap.
	And they'd be like, yeah, but you got like 10 more years.
	And I'd be like, no, I got two.
	And they'd be like, no.
	I'm like, yeah, I only got two.
	Because after that, I'm just, I feel like movies, you know, like, I'm just setting myself up for other things to bring more revenue to my family.
	Like, when I'm gone, my kids are going to be so rich.
	They ain't got to do nothing.
	But it's going to like, I'm going to have, I'm going to done so much like as far as music, movies, commercials, voiceovers, whatever, you know what I'm saying?
	It's going to make them want to do something.
	You know what I'm saying?
	Man, my dad did all of this.
	I got to go do this.
	I got to do something to make my own name.
	I want my kids to want their own name.
	So it's like everything that I'm doing right now, I'm basically doing it to make it hard on them.
	Oh, I see what you're saying.
	Because if they're as competitive, if they have that competitive spirit.
	And I know that's in me because it got passed down from my dad, my brother.
	It's just, I know, I know that's going to be there.
	Exactly.
	And so when they nice and ready, I just know they're going to put their bitch for fourth and they're going to figure it out.
	But if they don't, they got pals to cash to sit on if they don't.
	What about a Christmas album, man?
	You going to do something like that for everybody?
	Yeah, I did do a Christmas song one time where I feel like it went crazy.
	I just dropped it at the wrong time.
	When did you drop it in the summer?
	No, it was cold.
	It was cold.
	I actually dropped it right around Christmas.
	It just was earlier in my career.
	So I had less eyes, you know?
	Yeah.
	But I think it's over a million something right now now that I've become who I've become.
	Maybe it could pick up then this year.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, I think we got 1.5 a year ago.
	And would you ever do a mall Santa or something like that?
	Like for children or for charity?
	I would.
	I would.
	That's actually a great idea.
	That'd be sick, bro.
	That's a great idea.
	Yeah, dude.
	If you got to be a mall Santa, that would be pretty good.
	Yeah, I don't know if we can listen to it or not because we'll have to, it'll get claimed or whatever.
	What's your show like, man?
	What's the show like?
	I might pull up tonight.
	You should.
	You should.
	Now, it's more like now.
	At first, my shows were just like turn up, like a lot of dancing.
	People shaking a towel and all that.
	Shaking a towel.
	There's always that one guy that's just sued the towel guy or whatever.
	Like on the rap stages, there's that one dude and he just.
	Oh, you're talking about like a hype man.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	I guess Roe is my hype man.
	It's good, though.
	You got to have him.
	No, but we're more like put together.
	Like, I don't know what it is.
	Me and Roe, we've been performing together since my first ever performance.
	He was on stage with me.
	So I don't know.
	It's just the chemistry is there.
	We know we, everything that we done put together, it just happened.
	It wasn't nothing that we said.
	Like, we just, for the first time, did rehearsals before this tour.
	And we done did three tours before, like, my tour, Kevin Gates' tour, Key Klock tour.
	We never rehearsed nothing.
	It was just, we went on stage and it just happened.
	Wow.
	So now we're finally rehearsing it.
	So I just feel like that made it.
	Like now he come out on stage in a FedEx uniform.
	You know what I'm saying?
	Like, it's crazy.
	We just put more to it.
	Yeah, yeah.
	It's just, you should come.
	I mean, come to see a big guy my size move the way I move and to, you wouldn't even think that it was an hour sit.
	I do hour sits and he wouldn't, if I wasn't sweating so bad, you wouldn't even know I was tired.
	I don't know.
	It's just kind of like second nature to us down there.
	We were football players.
	So he done always been under the lights.
	You know what I'm saying?
	So I don't know.
	It just makes you want to put on more of a show.
	Do you have some ballads in there too?
	Some love songs like that?
	I guess I used to, but now, like, so the Take Here Tour is basically, I mean, it's off of the album.
	You know, it's based off the album.
	And my album wasn't more of a, it wasn't a turn up album.
	It wasn't a For the Women album.
	It was just me speaking on me in this industry, you know, speaking on me in the now.
	And so like now I feel like my shows are more like personal.
	Like a lot of people that come to my shows now, they come because they felt the same way.
	They feel the same way.
	Exactly.
	Like I did in myself.
	I've been doubted, and I still believed enough in myself to get things.
	Exactly.
	So now I speak, like now I perform with, what's the thing called that you sit the mic on?
	Mike Stan.
	Mike Stan.
	Yeah, my father.
	I had a brain farm.
	My father.
	But yeah, so now I come out, Mike Stan.
	Like, I show you my intro.
	Now, you'll be like, okay, yeah, that's crazy.
	That's crazy.
	If you can pull my Instagram up, you actually can see it.
	Yeah, let's pull it up.
	And I'm going to come see tonight, man.
	Y'all make sure y'all follow me at BigX the Plug.
	Oh, yeah.
	Wow, bro.
	That's so exciting, man.
	It's really awesome to see just you have so many neat opportunities.
	That first one right there.
	There you go.
	Shout out to my cameraman, Trey Soles, man.
	Lights out!
	Wow!
	We got the end of the road with the fucking building!
	We got the end of the road with the fucking building!
	I should have rapped, bro.
	Damn, I should have.
	He said he should have rapped.
	That's crazy.
	I should have got in.
	I had a little bit of a chance, but I didn't.
	Hey, it happens.
	If you ask me, this is the easiest thing I've ever done in my life.
	No cap.
	If it wasn't for all the extra stuff that come with it, this is the easiest money I've ever made in my life.
	Yeah.
	Because it's different when you got to lie and make up stuff because now that's a whole nother thing.
	Oh, yeah.
	But when you're just talking about what you've done, what you've went through, like that's coming off my head.
	I don't got to think, oh, what would sound, like, you know, so I don't have to do that.
	Well, if you're saying true to your own life, then you don't have to manipulate anything.
	Exactly.
	And it's just so much easier.
	You can go in the studio.
	You're basically writing a story about yourself.
	Yeah.
	It's easy.
	Man, that's a great.
	It's interesting.
	I think people can understand what you're talking about, too.
	They can, you just communicate so well that I think it just, it reaches a lot of people.
	Yeah.
	You know?
	X, congrats on all the success, man.
	Appreciate you.
	Yeah, congrats on the tour.
	Album out now, man.
	Make sure I keep running that take care of.
	We got only three days in the tour, we still got 29 more dates, and a lot of these are sold out by the show.
	Yeah, a lot, yes, a lot of these are sold out, so y'all try to get in where y'all can fit in.
	Huh?
	Oh, definitely get those meet and grits.
	Oh, do people, yeah, how do you guys, you guys do that after the shows?
	Uh, I try to do them before the show because after I'm all sweaty, and yeah, so I like to do it before, but I don't know.
	I also feel like after it's more like genuine.
	You know what I'm saying?
	Before, I feel like it's me, it's just kind of like trying to get it.
	And this is coming from, this is me being honest about me.
	Yeah.
	Before, it's kind of just feel like it's like I'm going through the like, oh, sound check, then meet and greet.
	But after the show, it's like, it's just more genuine because you're tired and it's just the real you now.
	You've had the show already.
	Exactly.
	And they've gotten to see it too.
	Exactly, exactly.
	So it's like whenever they come up, like, I had a guy, a grown man last night walk up on me and tell me, bro, I love you.
	I appreciate you because of what you got going.
	You helped me.
	I love you.
	Told me you love me twice.
	So it's like that's real love.
	Before, if we would have did the meeting before, he wouldn't have went through the show.
	He said, I might love you.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Hey, great job.
	That's all I would have got.
	But he listened to the show.
	He listened to the lyrics.
	Yeah, after that, the energy's been there.
	There's been that connection.
	I think a lot of people, you don't think about it from their perspective, though.
	They're just excited to get to see you.
	Some people, it's like you want to hear their music, but also I think you just want to be in the same building as them.
	And I think that's some of the energy that you have, I think.
	Some people, it's just their song.
	Yeah, I want to go listen for their songs.
	I don't know if I really have a sense of them as a person.
	But to me, it feels like, and it's just my thoughts, that there's something else where people are like, oh, I also want to be in the same room as him.
	I just, you know, I feel like it's.
	And it's different when you got like, when you're actual, like when you're genuine, like you're humble.
	It's, you know, it's just you.
	It's actually you.
	It's not no.
	Right.
	You know what I'm saying?
	When you're just taking the picture, getting them out the way.
	No, you enjoyed the show.
	How did you like the show?
	What was your favorite part of the show?
	I appreciate you coming out, man.
	People love that.
	That makes them feel like they're a person and you're a person.
	You know what I'm saying?
	When you taking the picture and moving them on out the way, that just makes it seem like you're a robot.
	Like the machine is running you.
	Oh, yeah.
	And these days, some of the best artists, it's just everything that's outside of the machine.
	The machine's dirty, man.
	That's why I feel like everything that we're doing right now is story because it's all us.
	We're doing it completely independent.
	Who's your team?
	I mean, I know a lot of them right here, but just.
	But okay, so I got a distribution deal through United Masters.
	Okay.
	So they don't do nothing but distribute my music.
	I mean, they gave me a small marketing budget.
	You know what I'm saying?
	Nothing too major.
	Like a major label.
	They pay for everything.
	You know what I'm saying?
	Like this tour I paid for out of my pocket.
	Wow.
	The bus, $200,000 on a bus.
	I know, dude.
	That bus is damn expensive.
	I take the whole bus.
	Greyhound was $60 to get to Rochester.
	That's smart.
	Or FedEx, you mail yourself overnight.
	Nah, different.
	I don't know, but I just feel like, I don't know, I'm kind of glad we did the best stuff because, you know, it's just.
	No, you have to do it.
	You have to.
	It's hard to start to spend that money on yourself.
	Like, we tour with comedy.
	We just got back from Montana or some different places, but it's like, you just, because at a certain point, you're investing this in your own, you have to be comfortable.
	You can't show up like you're like rattled, you know, it's like, because you have to put the show on.
	No, you're right.
	You're right.
	Not trying to preach at you.
	I just, I tried to nickel and dime.
	We fucking was on motorbikes one time.
	We was on all kinds of shit trying to save money, man.
	We had a camper.
	We had all kinds of shit.
	Nah, for sure.
	No, yeah.
	I mean, this was cheaper than flying everybody everywhere.
	Yeah.
	And we just, I just, I went through the sprinter experience and I just couldn't do that again.
	It's hard.
	Amen.
	Yeah, we did all that van sprinter.
	And then finally, you just have to make sure you're comfortable enough to show up.
	Wow.
	Well, what a journey, big X. Thanks for just letting us enjoy your music, man.
	I love, yeah, just how humble you are, man.
	And just, yeah, people to people, man.
	That's all we are really doing.
	Take care, tour.
	And you can get the album.
	You still have it.
	If it's sold out, there may still be meet and greet tickets available.
	For sure.
	And I know you're just going to keep adding more dates, man.
	You're going to be a busy man.
	Yes, sir.
	We're working.
	We're working.
	Yeah, I'm glad I got to catch you today, man.
	Yes, sir.
	I appreciate you for having me.
	All right, blessings.
	Now, I'm just floating on the breeze, and I feel I'm falling like these leaves.
	I must be cornerstone.
	Oh, but when I reach that ground, I'll share this piece of mind I found.
	I can feel it in my bones.

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