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E432 Logic

Logic is a multi-platinum rapper and producer. He has released 8 studio albums and is a 2x time Grammy nominee. His new album “College Park” is out now everywhere. Logic joins Theo Von on this episode of This Past Weekend to talk about his rough childhood in Baltimore, pawning PlayStations, smoking mom's cigarettes, finding mainstream success, healing through music, and much more. Logic: https://www.youtube.com/@logic ------------------------------------------------ Tour Dates! https://theovon.com/tour New Merch: https://www.theovonstore.com Podcastville mugs and prints available now at https://theovon.pixels.com ------------------------------------------------- Sponsored By: Celsius: Go to the Celsius Amazon store to check out all of their flavors. #CELSIUSBrandPartner #CELSIUSLiveFit  https://www.amazon.com/stores/CELSIUS/ShopNow/page/95D581F4-E14E-4B01-91E7-6E2CA58A3C29 Babbel: Go to https://babbel.com/theo to get 55% off your subscription. Babbel – Language for Life. Shady Rays: Go to http://shadyrays.com and use code THEO for 50% off 2 or more pairs of polarized sunglasses. RocketMoney: Visit https://rocketmoney.com/theo to stop throwing your money away. Cancel unwanted subscriptions – and manage your expenses the easy way. DraftKings: Download the app now, use code THEO, new customers bet FIVE DOLLARS on a pre-fight moneyline and get $150 in bonus bets instantly if your fighter wins. This Saturday at DraftKings Sportsbook with code THEO. Minimum age and eligibility restrictions apply. Gambling Problem? Call 877-8-HOPENY/text HOPENY (467369) (NY), If you or someone you know has a gambling problem, crisis counseling and referral services can be accessed by calling 1-800-GAMBLER (1-800-426-2537) (CO/IL/IN/LA/MD/MI/NJ/OH/PA/TN/WV/WY), 1-800-NEXT STEP (AZ), 1-800-522-4700 (KS/NH), 888-789-7777/visit ccpg.org (CT), 1-800-BETS OFF (IA), visit OPGR.org (OR), or 1-888-532-3500 (VA). 21+ (18+ NH/WY). Physically present in AZ/CO/CT/IL/IN/IA/KS/LA(select parishes)/MD/MI/NJ/NY/OH/PA/TN/VA/WV/WY only. Void in ONT. Eligibility restrictions apply. $200 in Bonus Bets: Valid 1 per new customer. Min. $5 deposit. Min $5 bet. Promo code req. $200 issued as bonus bets that expire 7 days (168 hours) after being awarded. Bonus bets must be wagered 1x and stake is not included in any returns or winnings. Promotional offer period ends 2/12/23 at 11:59 PM ET. See terms at sportsbook.draftkings.com/mmaterms ------------------------------------------------- Music:  "Shine" by Bishop Gunn: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F3A_coTcUek ------------------------------------------------ Submit your funny videos, TikToks, questions and topics you'd like to hear on the podcast to: tpwproducer@gmail.com Hit the Hotline: 985-664-9503 Video Hotline for Theo Upload here: https://www.theovon.com/fan-upload Send mail to: This Past Weekend 1906 Glen Echo Rd PO Box #159359 Nashville, TN 37215 ------------------------------------------------ Find Theo: Website: https://theovon.com Instagram: https://instagram.com/theovon Facebook: https://facebook.com/theovon Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/thispastweekend Twitter: https://twitter.com/theovon YouTube: https://youtube.com/theovon Clips Channel: https://www.youtube.com/c/TheoVonClips Shorts Channel: https://bit.ly/3ClUj8z ------------------------------------------------ Producer: Zach https://www.instagram.com/zachdpowers/ Producer: Colin https://instagram.com/colin_reiner Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Today's guest just finished his new album, College Park, which you can grab out there.
He has seven albums that have been created.
He's a rapper and a producer.
He's now delving more into the worlds of YouTube and TikTok.
So you can get to know him as a human as well.
He's Grammy nominated.
You may know him as the young Sinatra.
Today's guest is Logic.
Shine that light on me I'll sit and tell you my stories Shine on me And I will find a song I've been singing I love you And I will find a song I've been singing You got an elevator.
That's annoying.
I have a fucking elevator in my like house.
Well, it's like on the outside of it.
Dang, rich chat.
Wow, bro.
What do you mean you have a real elevator?
And what do you have people like waiting?
Like, so say if you get in it and the door's open, where are you?
I'm right.
I'm at my door.
But are you in your apartment in your condo or home or are you at?
No, I'm like a door away.
Okay, but it's not a lobby.
It's like a private, it's like right there.
Like it's like a shared, it's like me and the other.
Because I'm in Malibu in this condo.
So it's a vibe.
So you go all the way down.
But wait, what I was going to say was, I'm really happy to be here.
Thanks, man.
Seriously.
You're like TikTok Ellen.
Oh, dang.
It's a big deal to be here.
That's cool.
I didn't know that.
I mean, we have a similar haircut, or at some point we did.
And we're both from Louisiana.
Which is kind of crazy.
You probably wouldn't think that Ellen's from Louisiana, huh?
I didn't know that you were both from there.
I didn't know she was from there.
Yeah, I think she grew up there.
Can you look that up, Zach?
Huh?
Ellen.
Ellen DeGeneres.
Yo, Ellen DeGeneres is...
I always wanted to be on Ellen because I watched Ellen since I was a little boy.
And I was like, yo, if you make it on Ellen, like you made it.
And then I actually went to Ellen and performed.
I met Kobe.
He was there when you went on?
Dude, yeah, Kobe was there.
Let's see.
What does it say?
Metairie, Louisiana.
Wow, Louisiana.
That's crazy.
Wow, Metairie's kind of wild.
Metairie is a good place to, like, if you want to do drugs with somebody that's Italian at night.
Okay.
Well, speaking of drugs.
That's a good place.
She was originally supposed to be the chick in pulp fiction.
Not Uma Thurman.
Not Uma Thurmond's character.
But do you remember when they were like stabbing her in the heart to give her the adrenaline, the shot of adrenaline?
And the chick's house when John Travolta was like, who's that girl with all that shit on her face?
And he's like, that's my wife.
Ellen was supposed to play the chick with all the shit on her face.
Oh, really?
Yeah, fun fucking fact.
Oh, there it is.
Yeah.
That would have been Ellen DeGenere.
That would have been Ellen?
Yeah.
Oh, dang.
Yeah, but that was a highlight for me.
You went there.
What do you mean?
You went to Ellen.
Yeah, I went there.
Well, I went twice, actually.
Damn.
Yeah, and then we became like homies.
And then next thing I know, I'm like, us and our wives are like at her restaurant and fucking Leonardo DiCaprio comes up.
He's like, oh, what's up, Logic?
Blah, blah, blah.
I'm like, what the fuck is going on?
What's my life?
I felt like somehow I was like Julian Illuminati.
Yeah.
It was wild.
Yeah, it must sort of feel like as you get more popular that you start to meet certain people and you're like, damn, am I getting closer to like meeting like the final like lizard boss or whatever?
Yeah, I guess.
You know?
Bro, it's insane.
I'm actually, because I'm going ham on social media now.
Like I'm, I'm like taking it so seriously, spending really good money on, you know, my, my team, my camera guys, my editing.
Like I have in-house editors and I have two houses that I'm paying because I have so much shit that's coming.
Cause I've really editor trafficking.
It sounds like almost.
I'm editor trafficking.
Dang.
Yeah.
But it's all good.
And no, but I really believe in like this next chapter of my career where I'm just going to be making music and having a blast.
But like, I feel that my personality is really what makes me me.
It makes what makes logic, logic, you know, the biracial guy, like just being myself.
And I'm about to lean into that shit hard as fuck.
But what was I saying about Ellen?
Well, it's interesting.
I think like as I watch you, I think like first, obviously people get to know you through your music, right?
Yeah, for sure.
Or a lot of people have.
But then I also find, and I found this, I haven't found this about a lot of musicians.
And a lot of musicians kind of aren't interesting.
They're interesting through their music, but they aren't.
I found a lot of musicians are tough to interview because.
It's the personification.
They're trying to portray like who they are on the record rather than allowing themselves to just be them.
You know what I mean?
It's like Mariah Carey takes shits.
You know what I mean?
But maybe she doesn't want to talk about that on the show.
you know what I mean?
Like, I got to use wet wipes.
What about you?
I'm still afraid to admit which way I wipe.
What you mean?
You be wiping towards the balls?
I mean, I don't know.
Are you fucking serious?
What?
That's crazy.
You what?
You wipe towards your balls?
I don't think so.
Anyway, man, so I use wet wipes.
I don't know.
I mean, they should have people like kind of like, that should be something you have to like, instead of like your gender, like say which way you wipe.
Like that way, people can just assume your gender right there.
I get it.
I guess.
I don't know, but I never heard about, I've never heard of a man wiping towards his balls.
Yeah, that's insane.
I think that'd be, who would do it?
You know, nobody I know.
Yeah.
Anyway, question.
I have a question for you.
First of all, are you cool talking about like fam?
Nothing weird.
I'm just saying like family.
Like if I asked you about family and stuff.
Yeah.
Okay, cool.
Cause I don't know.
You never know.
Yeah, totally.
So your dad, when he has you, was 70 years old?
Yeah.
Bro.
Because I was looking shit up because like I've seen, you know, cool stand-up, fun stuff like that.
But I, like, before I came to the show, I was like, man, I really want to know even more about this guy.
So that means that your father was born like over 110 years ago?
Yeah.
Let me think.
I was just, it's so funny you asked this, man.
I was just thinking about him the other day.
And I was thinking about how old he would be if he was alive.
He would be, he was born in 1910.
Crazy.
So he would be 113 this year.
Wow.
That's.
It'd be crazy.
My grandfather was born in 1880.
But to be busting nuts at 70. Oh, I don't want to do it.
That's wild.
Because your heart could stop.
Well, that reminds me of my dad.
Like, every time you're getting close, it's just a risk, man.
How old was your dad?
And thank you for asking, man.
It's sweet to you that you checked out and you care.
It's nice to think about my dad.
I was thinking the other day how it would be cool if they had a place where you could take clothing from like a deceased parent and put it on a mannequin and go spend time with your family in a weird way.
That's funny.
Like if people need that kind of healing in their lives or something.
I know you had kind of a wild upbringing.
So you started out in Maryland, right?
Yes, sir.
Okay.
Just for our audience that doesn't know, because some of our audience might not know you and I want them to get to know you.
And so you started out in Maryland and your parents are both your parents are different colors, right?
Yeah, my dad's black and my mom is white.
And I was conceived in a crack house after they had met each other after about three days.
Yep.
Bender, a bender baby.
Bender baby.
Yeah.
My mom was a prostitute.
My dad was a crack addict for a long time.
I'm named after my dad.
And yeah.
What's really crazy, though, is I remember my dad telling me, he was like, yeah, you know, I got a paternity test to make sure your ass was mine.
Cause I came out looking white as fuck.
Because it's very apparent my father is a black man.
Like he's not half black.
He's fucking black.
And I thought he did it like when I came out the canal.
But the literally, bro, like three days ago, a buddy of mine was at my crib and he's like, oh, fuck, I got a warrant.
I'm like, what do you mean you got a warrant?
And he's like, I got a warrant in Maryland.
And I'm like, bro, when's the last time you were there?
He was like, 10 years ago.
I'm like, oh, shit, what do you got to do?
So he has to write the judge.
Long story short, he was looking up his criminal history on this website.
And he's like, yeah, you can type in anybody's name.
And I'm like, yo, type in my fucking dad.
So he types in, he types in my dad.
And my dad's like, bro, he like stole my identity and maxed out credit cards before I was 18 and shit because we have the same name.
And so I'm like, let's look it up.
So we look it up and I'm just seeing like petty theft, car theft, possession charges.
And then I see Terry Lee Miller, my mother's maiden name, versus Robert Hall defended.
And I'm like, what the fuck is this?
And it says paternity slash child support.
Bro, it's like 1999.
So I'm nine years old.
Right.
And I look this, it's so crazy.
Like, bro, I never knew.
Like, you know, I heard about it.
I kind of saw things when I was a kid, but you don't really put too much together.
Yeah.
And then you see on the internet, you're kind of like wandering through yourself.
It's like I'm reading.
I already wrote a biography.
You know what I mean?
I wrote an autobiography.
So now I'm reading something that's even crazier.
And so what's hilarious is that it shows like that my dad took a paternity test because he was like, that ain't my baby.
Nine years later.
And it's nine years.
Wonder what you did something at eight years old that he's like, nah, I'm out.
Yeah.
But the best part is, fuck the internet.
I'm black.
I told you.
I fucking told you.
Yeah, that was wild.
Dude, yeah, I think these days, yeah, being black definitely helps.
I think everything's kind of heading towards that kind of Ben Simmons kind of trans sort of vibe where everybody's going to be.
College people.
That's what I was talking about.
We've always said like beige power.
Like in three generations, you can't, you're going to need, even now you need like a chart to be racist.
I feel like you need like a, you know what I'm saying?
You need to like carry the one if you're really going to get into it.
You can't even yell.
Used to just be a little yell like or something out of the window and it would land on somebody, but now it's like everybody's, yeah.
Yeah, exactly.
But yeah, crazy.
That's crazy, man.
Did you make you feel like he didn't care or something at that point?
Because that would be, I feel like if I saw that, or did your mom like instigate it and so that's why he had to do it?
No, I think, well, I definitely think she wanted child support, but also I'm just like, woman, what you gonna give from a crackhead?
Like, I'm just being real, right?
I love my dad.
He's clean nowadays.
I actually, I haven't talked to him in a couple of years and I just texted him the other day.
And so I'm always trying, it's like a fucking black hole, no pun intended, that I'm always trying to go through.
It's just whatever.
Anyway, I'm like, woman, why would you even try to get child support when the man can't take care of himself at the time?
So I'm like, it just, to me, it doesn't make sense.
But now your dad has my dad on age nut busting, but my dad was 63. This is what's really crazy.
So I'm one of nine.
Wow.
But I'm the only child between my mother and my father.
So my mother has all her children are with black men.
And all my brothers and sisters on my dad's side, they're all, everybody's mixed, but I'm the whitest looking mother.
I'm the Most transparent.
And what's crazy is, is 33 years ago after I was born, my dad got a vasectomy.
Okay.
And then five years ago, I find out that I have a little brother.
No.
So the story is a wild one.
Now, so he was already chopped out, and then he got a new baby somehow.
Yeah, it's actually just poked through.
And it's his because you know they made him get a paternity.
So what's this has a stack of p-test in his house, man?
What's wild, though, about my dad is that, who I love, I'm just keeping it real.
You know what I always find really funny is like, sometimes my family would be like, we don't want our business out there.
And I'm like, you shouldn't have done all that dumbass shit.
What the fuck do you mean?
But anyway, I would never say anything too crazy.
But this is all public fucking knowledge.
So either way, exactly.
So my dad, I find out I have a little brother.
It's like 2018.
And I wrote about this in my book because I actually wanted to adopt my brother, but that's another story.
So I had a stepmother.
Her name was Debbie.
And Debbie and my dad would use together.
And Debbie OD'd and wound up in a coma for four months.
So she's in a coma, beautiful woman.
She's in a coma.
My dad is like, all right, well, this sucks.
He's in the program, AA, and he goes up to one of his friends and they're talking to the dad.
They find out that a close friend of his is dying.
I think it was like cancer or something.
So he goes to see her.
And like her last words are like, take care of my daughter.
And her daughter was like, this young 21-year-old girl.
And he took care of her.
He fucked her and knocked her up.
No.
Yeah.
Oh, that's she.
She is so AA.
Everyone's fucking each other.
Knocks her up.
Shortly after the baby's born, she dies of a heroin overdose.
No.
Then, and now this had happened a bit before, but while all this was happening, my dad had started seeing a woman who I think is now his current wife.
And then his then wife comes out of the coma and he's like, it's over.
I'm just like, yo, that's so crazy.
Well, sometimes women take a long time to make to decide.
Yeah, but it's like, wow, she can't holla out the first thing she gets out of the coma.
I know.
And then unfortunately, she OD'd and died a couple years later.
But this is like the life I grew up in, man.
Just drugs and violence and guns and my brothers running in the streets.
And you have surprise siblings.
Surprise siblings, bro.
Like 11 years old, I found out I had four siblings.
I was like, what?
It seems like such a chaotic environment to grow up in.
Like, were there times, were there like some special times you remember spending with your mom or dad that was just kind of like you and them one-on-one that were like, that was kind of like a warm, like human kind of time?
Yeah.
I remember this one time.
My dad stole my earring to pawn it for crack.
That was dope.
Damn.
It was just one earring too?
It was just one earring.
Yeah.
No, I guess the few times I had with my dad was music because he's a musician.
So he plays like Go-Go music, which is prominent in DC.
And he played with EU and Chuck Brown and different people.
And I think that's where I get a lot of my musical talent.
But he's the type of motherfucker, though, he would take me to the studio.
And if there was studio time that he schemed, I would get none of it.
Like he'd be like in there singing.
He's got some songs.
One of his most famous lines is, she's just a crackhead bitch, sucking on the devil's ding-dong.
And he's talking about smoking a pipe.
I feel like that's copywritten, dude.
I've heard that.
Every crackhead, I feel like, plays that.
Straight up.
That is like the national anthem.
My mom, my mom, there was definitely, for as sick mentally as my mother was and is, I haven't talked to her in over a decade now, unfortunately.
Wow.
And I'd love to, but she's just not there.
She's the type of person to be like, don't take the Lord's name in vain.
God damn it, you motherfucker.
Like crazy.
You know what I'm saying?
And she was, she would, she'd hit me with the hard R and all my brothers and sisters growing up.
It's weird.
Really?
Yeah, man.
Your mom would inbomb you.
Yeah, bro.
It was like this systemic because she, you know, I remember her telling me that she brought, you know, a 14-year-old black boy home to introduce to her parents.
And they were like, we don't mix with their kind here, like wild shit.
Right.
It was like old school racism.
Yeah, so it was inner because she would always, obviously, she's fucking black guys.
Yeah.
You're not, you know what I mean?
It's like, you know who's fucking them.
Usually back in the day, they were driving like a Honda Civic.
It would be kind of like a thick girl that got sunburned pretty easy and was driving a Honda Civic.
And if she was a redhead dude, she's smashing brothers, dog.
No cat, bro.
There was no, every girl that drove by with a fucking Honda Civic, dude, that was a little bit thick, bro, and was catching some sun and freckles were showing up on her shoulders, bro.
She was going over to a broken bro.
I had some good times.
I did.
I had some good times with my mom, but I had more work.
Like my mother, she almost strangled me to death one time.
I've just been, I've been kidnapped.
I've been through the gnarliest shit, fucking molested, wild shit.
But, well, and that was just, that was my dad's girlfriend.
She just kissed me with Skittles in her fucking mouth and I could taste the rainbow.
Oh, that would make me fucking hard.
Yeah, it was great.
I swear to God, dude, if a woman, I remember if any woman came even near me when I was a child, I'd get irregular.
What is up with that, though?
That's a real thing.
I used to be in ninth grade.
Like, I couldn't get up.
They'd be like, could you please write this mathematical equation?
And I'm like, I'm fucking doing math, exact Galifenakus to decrease my boner before you stand up.
But I think, well, for me, I think there was no, like, I had such a like a rocky connection with my own mother.
Like, she didn't show me like a lot of, and I say this a lot, but I don't really go into it.
She like didn't show me like a lot of affection.
And she like would kind of look at me with judgment all the time.
And so I never knew anytime I got around a woman, there was always like a lot of like real like uncomfortable energy.
Was this even when you were like a child?
Did you feel this way or was it more in your teenage and later years?
I didn't notice it until I got a little bit.
Now I notice it all.
It all makes a lot of sense.
But yeah, I think my mother would just always had a lot of, she never looked at me like just with like adoration.
There was always like judgment.
And so I think I always interpreted that like with a woman that there's always some type of judgment.
So I'm not enough immediately when I show up or even look at a woman.
It's like even when I look at a woman's eyes, it was like, I'm not enough.
So I think that like permeated in me throughout like being young.
And so I think it made everything kind of, so then anytime I got close to a woman, everything was uncomfortable because it was like, how can I be this close and I'm okay?
Like I'm okay to be here.
And it's not like I'm not being like feeling rejected.
It's like, I think it made everything super just a lot of nerves in that space, you know?
I get it.
I've always felt more of a connection with women because I was raised and surrounded by women.
So I've had to deal with like, you know, I've had sisters who fucking come home after getting raped or, you know what I mean?
Just like the craziest shit.
And I don't know.
I just always, like, you know, I see my mom, I'm like a little boy, you know, like damn near a toddler.
She's getting her fucking brains beat out of her.
She's all bloody and police come and all this shit.
And I'm like, oh, don't treat a woman like that.
You know, my dad's smoking crack and pawning my fucking PlayStation and shit.
Oh, don't treat your child like that.
So I saw all these, you know, my brothers running around with guns.
Oh, try to, don't do these things.
And that's not me shitting on my family.
Like, it's just, it is what it is.
You know what I mean?
And a lot of my families really turn their lives around for the most part.
I mean, motherfuckers are still in the hood and shit, but it's good.
And, you know, sometimes motherfuckers will be like, hey, man, like, how come you only give your money, your family money?
And it's like, one, I have, and then it's gone immediately.
It's like, I've done that.
And then it's like, oh, I learned my lesson immediately.
Cause like you give somebody money, they don't know what to do with it.
It's even like, okay, what?
I'm going to buy you a house and then what?
I got to pay your mortgage for the rest of your life or I got to this, I got to that.
So it's like you can only give, but so much to a person.
Because if somebody gave me a million dollars when I was in the hood at 18, I would just be at Taco Bell every day.
Oh.
Like I would just be like, I don't know.
I'd be doing Coke, dude.
I'd be trying to eat my own ass, dude.
Dude, you do enough drugs, you'll try to, you'll get back there.
True.
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But it's interesting you say that because, yeah, there's some family members of mine that like it's easier to share stuff with or like help them get something if they're trying to get it in their life and I can help like financially.
And then there's some where it's like they're not in a space where they're kind of healthy enough in a way where it's like, yeah, you can't, it's tough to, if you give $10,000 to somebody who's struggling with addiction, you might never, they may die.
No, you can't do it.
Yeah.
So some of that stuff gets a little bit tricky.
My niece, I'm putting her through college right now.
She's one of the ones that like really broke through and she's doing incredible.
Sorry, what were you going to say?
Yeah.
So, but how are you able to like compartmentalize that stuff and like not get so attached to it?
Because it seems like you're able to like talk about these pretty traumatic times that happened in your life and you don't, but you're able to kind of discuss it in a way that's like.
I'm not like, who fuck?
Like, I think.
Did you go through that or you never really, that never really was?
I definitely did, but I was never like, You know what I mean?
Things like that.
But most of the tears I shed were like having my son and like getting married to a beautiful woman that loves me and like giving me the family I never had.
And that shit makes me be like, wow.
Like I'll look at my son, like this cute little three-year-old, pure soul.
And I'm like, damn, I can't believe my parents smacked me around and did, you know, cook crack in front of me.
You know, had drug dealers in the house cooking crack.
I'm breathing this shit in.
Like I could never imagine that for my son.
So it makes me really happy.
But I think the biggest way, if I'm being quite honest, how I dealt with my upbringing was through music, through writing.
You know what I mean?
Because like a lot of people are scared of therapy or this or that.
I've always been, I've been in therapy for 10 years, over 10 years now.
And it's helped me a lot.
And it's given me a lot of tools to break down and better know myself.
But before I, you know, sat down with any professional, I had to really look in the mirror and be like, yo, like what matters to you?
You know what I mean?
What do you want?
What don't you want?
And that's why even with the raps and shit, like I didn't look at it at hip hop and go, oh yeah, I'm a boats and hose and bitches.
And I didn't see it like that.
I saw it as a business.
And I say with persistence, determination, realism, and wanting success more than your next breath.
You could truly fucking attain anything you want, but a big key is realism.
So I wasn't like, oh, I want the $20,000 chain and I want the.
I was like, I want to create a brand and I want to do it in a way that nobody else is really doing it.
And that's why my whole motto is peace, love, positivity.
It's about being yourself.
And also, the craziest shit is, bro, Eminem is Eminem, the GOAT.
He's the shit, but he's not the first white rapper.
There was so many before, bro.
I'm the first black, white, white-looking black guy traversing hip-hop.
Like me and J. Cole's genetic makeup, the same.
Drake's the same.
You know what I mean?
So many people.
So I'm like the first of my kind as well experiencing this.
So when I would be talking about things like emotions and how it's okay to feel this and people like, shut the fuck up.
And I had to like really navigate being comfortable in my skin.
Yeah, because I feel like that's not a universe where if you come with feelings into like a rap battle, it's a you know, that's not the sword and the shield you want to bring in there.
It's changing a little bit though.
When you see like a lot of these vert, like a lot of like these like ciphers and verses and stuff you see online, I feel like you start to, people get a little bit more emo in there.
I guess I don't really give a fuck about that shit.
I'm just like, I love music.
You know what I mean?
Like I used to be about the freestyling and all that shit and like the battles.
And that's, it's cool.
It's cool.
But it's a lot of, it's a lot of, fuck you, I'm great.
And all this, which is systemic.
I still rap like that sometimes.
Like I'll have braggadocious shit.
Like I actually had a line where I said braggadocious flow.
I'm vain like an IV.
So it's like, it's just like little things where it's in us.
It's systemic.
Why am I wearing this?
I'm wearing this because I never had it.
My people never had it.
So I like it.
I got it.
What's up?
Look at me.
In a way, right?
It really is.
Like, you know what I mean?
I like to think I do it a little more, you know, classic.
I just try to try not to be too over the top.
But if a motherfucker wants to be over the top, good.
He never had it.
And if that's what he wants to do.
But I would rather sleep in my money.
You know, I'd rather sleep in a $5 million house in Malibu.
I'd rather.
Have you a nice home or something?
Yeah, because a waffle maker get you a damn ottoman, dude.
I remember when I got a fucking Ottoman cuz.
Damn, bro.
It changes the game.
It does.
Dude, when I sat on the couch and then my feet sat on the couch, touchdown, dude.
I thought I was going to damn heaven, bro.
It's pretty amazing.
I would have taken my own life right there if I could have just to stay comfortable.
Oh, my God.
We got a number you could call.
I know, dude.
I heard about that, man.
Sorry, our conversation's been all over a little bit, but it's cool, bro.
I like it.
It feels like we're just like I'm just chilling with a friend.
So speaking of which, you went to like five fucking colleges?
What's up with that?
Yeah, man.
I think I didn't know what I wanted to do.
And I got into comedy and comedy was this kind of thing.
You didn't have to commit to anything.
You know, I always had a lot of trouble committing to stuff.
And so comedy kind of made it where you didn't have to commit.
I think I didn't want to commit to a college.
I just, I don't know.
I had big like commitment issues.
I think out of the gate in the world, I didn't like kind of my environment so much that I just didn't, I was never going to let anything kind of place me or pigeonhole me or even if it was a school, you know, it was like, I want to do my own thing, you know?
I think that's dope.
I mean, I feel like also, if I personally, I feel that your 20s, like to like 26, 27, that's the time to just fuck your life up if you're going to do it.
Like following a dream.
Yeah.
Like let it go.
Cause by the time you're 26, 27, you're like, all right, fuck it.
I'll put this tie on and go to this job for the rest of my life.
Yeah, you know, whatever.
But it's like, I feel like.
Enterprise rental.
Do whatever you're going to, whatever your ambition is, do it now.
Do it right now while you still can because you don't want to look back, you know, full of regret.
I say that a lot of people, you could even, and I know this is maybe look frowned upon or whatever.
You could kill somebody.
A lot of people are doing seven years now.
I would say that's frowned upon.
Well, a lot of people are doing seven years now.
Oh, for murder?
Yeah.
So I'm like, dude, if there's somebody that we really don't need, I mean, ask some other people.
Don't just fucking pick somebody in your area.
Yeah.
But, you know, get a small consensus.
And look, dog, if you think it's going to help humanity, bro, you only, you know, people are doing seven years.
Wait a second.
How did we just go from following your dreams to murdering people and only getting seven years?
It's rap music, dude.
That's what it is.
Well, actually, one thing I did want to also ask, because we were talking about emotions and shit.
So as a, as a comic, you know, as a fucking genius comedian, which you are, you know, you're so quick, you're witty, you're on your shit.
Has there ever been a time where you were like going back and forth with another comedian and they actually, and this is, it's not a two-part question, but more of a description, and they actually like fucking like legitimately hurt your feelings?
Or is it more so like, fuck, I've been bested in this comedic duel or both?
That's a good question, man.
I think I've been bested in a comedic duel for sure by like guys like, you know, I'll get around like Shane Gillis sometimes and just who he is makes me laugh or if I'm having like a rough day.
Fuck, one day I had been eating, I went on a new diet where you didn't eat any calories or something for like a week.
So I could barely even breathe, you know, like I couldn't even open my eyes that good.
And I had to do an episode with this kid, Bryce Mitchell, right?
And he seemed like this, like, I thought he was like a wizard, you know, and he's like a UFC guy.
Like he's a very interesting dude.
I don't think people would say he's a wizard, though.
And he's, I like had no energy.
So I was like, I felt pretty bested that day.
I think sometimes there's times where you get with comedy, I think it's good with podcasting because you can do the conversations again.
I would, but I think doing something like rapping, that kind of thing feels really scary because people judge bars of raps and stuff all the time.
They don't do that with comedy.
Nobody's like, oh, dude, Larry had some shit bars over here.
It's like they're not doing that.
So they might say when somebody has a couple of good jokes, but that would be scary to me to be like, okay, I'm going to rest on these lines and put them out.
Has there been something you put out where you're like, because I've put out some specials where I'm like, I know that the recording that night wasn't the best.
I know that like after the audio came out, I'm like, these people I was working with didn't do, didn't capture it the best.
I know that I probably could have been in a better position and taken care of myself better the weeks leading up to it.
So I was putting out something as good as I could.
But with your work, you got to feel like you get a chance to be like, okay, this is it.
Is there ever a point where you like started something and by the end you were like, fuck, but I still got to put it out?
No, I would never put out something if I like wasn't behind it.
Like if I wasn't behind it, even if it's like some fun shit or because that was one thing that was really tough to navigate through this last decade because, you know, I'm known as a fucking lyricist.
Like I rap, you know, but I've also broken out of that box and made pop music.
I've made trap music.
I've sang.
I've done indie records.
I've done all types of stuff because I just, that's me.
I want to do different shit.
You know, it's like you've acted, you have a podcast.
You're so much more than just, you know, just a comedian, quote unquote.
Yeah.
You know, and that's how I felt about myself.
So the hardest thing was navigating like people, what other people thought and what other people said because I did care and because I wanted to be accepted so much.
Like I literally, it was so obvious and apparent.
But that's because I love hip hop and it's a beautiful space.
But the thing is, is I was always accepted by the greats, the people in this industry, whether it's Wu-Tang Clan, Nas, like so many people that I've come into contact.
Q-Tip, you know, works with all of them.
Yeah.
And they give me my flowers and it's really amazing.
But for so long, I was so focused on like, well, I want to be accepted by, I don't know, like the tastemaker or somebody with a fucking podcast.
Yeah.
It's like, fuck them and their podcast.
I rap.
Right.
And when I...
It's like, oh, fuck.
Does that guy like me?
You know?
No, but that's a real thing.
That's what I'm saying.
That's a real thing.
That would be like, that's the dude.
It's like, instead of really, if, you know, if the greats are giving you your rewards, but I'm still listening to this motherfuckers driving by and he's listening to Nelly still, I'd be like, fuck, dude, I got, I'm missing somebody.
I'm missing a lot of people.
I love Nelly, but I'm just saying, yeah, it's like I'm missing something.
I get it.
I think having my son, do you have children?
Having my son really totally opened my eyes about how much shit doesn't fucking matter.
Like my son, this thing that came out of my nuts is healthy and happy.
So Joe Schmo talking shit about me, like, who gives a fuck?
Also, it's like, I'm rich and I'm famous and you're talking about me.
Like, good job.
Like, bro, you did it.
Like, mission accomplished.
You met the green lizard alligator at the end of the fucking game.
Like, you did it.
And so for me, that realization, and this is just in the last few years, because my biggest thing was I used to be so upset that it hurt when people would say mean things about me, which they do on the internet all the time.
I mean, it's crazy.
I hope your baby dies, your wife's ugly.
And when you see that every day, every day, all these different things, just people, that shit that people spew out, it can fucking affect you.
And so I used to be so angry, like, fuck, like, why does this hurt?
Why does this hurt?
And then I realized it's like, bro, it hurts because you're a human being and you have emotions.
And when I stopped being so hard on myself and I was like, bro, it's okay that it hurts.
What you're in control of is how long will you let that affect you and how much will you let it affect you?
And now if I see some shit, if I subject myself to being on the internet and I see some shit, I just kind of just like, hmm, fuck this guy.
And that's it.
And it's pretty cool.
But it used to keep me up.
So what helps you turn there?
Because that's really some AA type stuff.
It's like, you know, if I sit there and read something about it and I feel, start to feel a certain way, that's normal.
That kind of can happen.
But if I sit there and continue to feel that way, then I'm doing that to myself at a certain point.
I don't realize it.
This, that thing is the instigator.
But if I'm sitting there and still thinking about it, then that's a choice that I'm making really at a certain point.
We're still going through it.
Right.
Because I used to, bro.
I used to go and like, people would be like, oh, you're amazing.
I love your comedy.
I love, I love your albums.
And it's just so much love.
I love you.
I love you.
But then we look and it's like, you fucking suck.
And you're just like, oh, my God.
And you looked at the guy and you look at him.
He's fucking 14, plays Xbox.
He's a cunt.
And you're like, this whole this thing when like deep down, like, it doesn't matter why are we doing this to ourselves.
But I think a big part of it is what it means to be human and adaptation.
So when you think about like us fucking on like an African plane thousands of years ago.
Oh, yeah, like big buck hunter type shit, type beat.
And when we walk out of the brush, like nobody's going, wow, look at these beautiful clouds.
Look at this sky.
No, you're looking for lions immediately.
And so I think that's what we do on like today, fast forward.
We're looking for, where's the threat?
Where's the threat?
And now I'm just kind of like, man, I honestly don't know why the fuck I cared so much for so long.
You know what I mean?
Well, it would make sense.
I feel like you cared if you're looking for, I mean, I feel like especially as children, especially growing up, you're probably looking for adoration.
Everybody wants to be seen or accepted.
Yeah.
I don't know.
You seem to have adapted pretty well.
Yeah, yeah.
It's not like it was ever terrible, but there was just times when it was.
And the reason I love to discuss things whenever I, such as this, whenever we kind of reach the subject for people out there, is it's like, bro, you're not alone.
Like, it's a real thing.
Not to sound cliche, but like everybody goes through shit.
Everybody, you go on the internet, you get a fight with some asshole.
It could like, it can, it can affect you.
And just the, the sheer amount of shit that we see and process mentally daily, like, I don't think humans are even supposed to be doing that.
Yeah.
Like, think if it's like 1950, you know, and little, little Mary Jane, like this bitch didn't have Twitter and just see all this shit with all these girls half naked by fucking 13 being oversexualized.
And she's like, well, I need to change myself.
And I need all, like, that shit didn't exist.
Well, that's, you know, I wonder a lot of times I think, you know, and I've jerked off recently, I'm going to be honest with everybody, but I think that a lot of times we've exhausted our sexuality.
So why, like, you know, I feel like you're, you're even maybe even through a DNA strain, you're only supposed to see so much cooter and everything over time and ass or whatever.
I actually agree with that.
Oh, so it's crazy that now you're having children, I think, that have no sex because you fucking, you, you know, Ronnie, the daddy or whatever, spewed it all out, dude, that's why fucking Ernie is just sitting in the yard, fucking licking rocks and scrolling on TikTok because he can't even, he don't even have anything left in him.
You know, it's like, it's weird.
Like whenever we created digital media, it's like we burned it out all out of us.
I think there's a lot of men out there who are gay, not even because they want to be.
It's because they, all the straightness got jerked out of them over time by looking at pornography.
Wait, what?
Yeah.
Think about pornography, bro.
It goes on the record.
Bro, if somebody wants to be fucking gay, they're just gay.
Oh, well, some people are.
You're saying some people, their predecessors have just busted so many nuts that they- But there's a difference.
Wait, no, but it's like then what you're talking about is more so celibacy rather than a sexual orientation.
I don't know, man.
I think we don't know the long-term effects of some of this pornography.
Think about it, dude.
Like, like when you're saying back in the day, you go to maybe the store and you see a woman pick up a melon or something and you go jerk off in the truck.
And you think about it.
Oh, that was insane.
Every time you fucking see an avocado salad, you fucking gotta hide in the outhouse.
When I was a kid, I used to fucking watch anime and I'd just be in my head thinking about like this anime bitch with big-ass tits.
And I'm like 12 years old.
Oh, yeah, bro.
Because I didn't have anything.
I didn't have fucking porn.
I didn't have a fucking internet.
You know what I'm saying?
I was busting nuts to fucking pencil drawings.
Damn, dude.
It was a vibe, though.
I remember one time I busted so many nuts.
The first time I ever busted a nut.
Oh, yeah.
Take a second.
I busted like 13 nuts.
I was like 12 years old and I'm shooting ghost loads.
Daytime or nighttime?
Night.
All night.
Literally, it was the first time because, you know, it's like my dick would get hard, this or that.
I'm like 12, bro.
But like your neck would get hard when my dick would get hard a lot.
Like Batman?
Yeah, I was like, I'm on the Gravitron at the fair or whatever.
Literally.
The fucking UFO.
Literally, I would, I, I, you know, I just, I had never busted a nut.
And then you bust that first nut and it like opens your mind.
You're like, oh my God.
So I jerked off all night and then my dick was like all fat.
Oh, it hurts.
It hurt.
And I went to school next day and it was like, I was walking weird.
And then I came home and I was like, man, I talked to my friend.
I was like, yo, I think my dick's fucked up.
Can you look at it?
He's like, what?
You want me to look at your dick?
And I was like, yeah, man, it's all good.
Dude, that's exactly what I'm talking about.
You do it so much, you end up in a gay instance.
What can I say?
What can I say?
But no, it was hilarious.
He was like, yeah, your shit's fucked up.
You need to chill.
So I was like, okay.
I just told you that.
Yeah, he was just like, yeah, that's not normal, man.
Yeah.
I remember getting so much ointment and I would pack it around my wiener because it would like, I just exhausted its use so much.
And I would get like all that Neosporn.
Are you being serious?
Oh, 100%.
And I would put it all around it because it would hurt.
You know, I mean, Louis C.K. was on here and we talked about that about imagine if you had a friend that was your wiener and you just kept fucking pat every time he was around you just kept fucking shaking him around until he spit up all over and then he did it and then everybody's like let him rest let him rest you're like nah get him back oh my god how many nuts have you busted in a day oh not that many i'm more of a i'm more of a long i'm more of like a like draw it out edge i wouldn't even call it edging i would just call it very lazy kind of archaic nuts
you know i think archaic nuts i think maybe four oh man i got you beat yeah good i can't handle it i was i mean i was just i was just really in it bums me out if i do it a little bit it bums me out you know what i'm over porn i'm so over it well it's horrible they used to have oh they said this actually seven states push to require id for watching porn online louisiana just did this and i think this is one of the best things that's ever been done for sure because dude i really do think uh logic that this this has
ruined a lot of relationships it's like it used to be a woman was where any fantasy you had was directed towards your spouse towards your towards your wife um and then now those fantasies are all exhaust you that that person can't even compete with the the the the digitality of of all this pornography yeah what does that article say i'm sorry zach gotta love zach i love zach thanks bro he's good man and i've never told him that so
i'm glad so he's great he is after decades of can we zoom in a little bit after decades of fretting over minors potentially being overexposed to pornography online several states are suddenly moving fast in 2023 to attempt to keep kids off porn sites by passing laws requiring age verification no but that's real i mean have you ever seen like those funny tick tocks or things where it's like literally eighth grade and the band's playing at lunch and then they'll stop and then the kid does the porn hub drum thing as like a joke and
then all the kids laugh because they know it's it's fucking deep man because like i remember the first time i was exposed to pornography i was like five years old yeah but it was it was print that's how old i am it was print yeah it was print magazine but i just didn't understand i remember going up to my my mother and once again she's a huge i'm not shitting on her here but i'm just being honest she's a hypocrite because you know i was like what's sex i was five years old and i asked her and she was like that's sex and i'm like what the oh she did
that she did this she just went like that and i was like oh so then i went to my homies i was like yo check it out i'm having sex right now and i'm like telling all my friends and shit they're like what the um but yeah i mean that's not like that bad like seeing seeing like a little nudie magazine when you're grown no you're growing up like but now it's deep man like i remember one of the first times i like was on the internet watching like 2006 2007 where like i didn't even know where to go and i'm in like yahoo like just typing
shit and like some chicks like going down on this guy and then she like pukes all over his dick and i'm like scarred and i'm like oh my god like that is some shit people don't need to be exposed like a golden corral i know and now that's my fetish no just kidding but it's like it's it's just a weird thing yeah it's overexposure man it will and it but the the harm it does to us i think that's the things we don't know it's like that harm it used to be you would take all those feelings and you put them to where every time you saw your spouse you fantasize about them and if you're open if you're open you're like hey
what's up you're trying to wear this made outfit and yeah you know pretend i was you know xyz like it's just to have those fantasies you know and my wife she's she's super open her dad's probably watching this right now so i'm not going to get too deep into it but if you know what i mean um but no she she's my wife man she's she's incredible you know what i mean she She really satisfies me.
And that's another thing when I think, like, all through my 20s, I was just like jerking off watching porn just because it was just kind of a thing to do.
Not a lot, not crazy.
Like, I never had an addiction, nothing like that.
You know, and I've known some dudes who have and have beaten that, which I think is great.
But I'm just like, for what?
I kind of, I'm almost like seen it, like seen it all.
And now I want to just like not anymore and just focus on my personal sexual relationship with my wife.
Not that I'm not or haven't, but just to eat even more.
I think porn has been so normalized in a way.
Which is not, it's like as an adult, like to each their own, you know what I mean?
But I just think this shit about making sure that minors aren't really so exposed to it, I think it is important.
But also, somebody's, it's almost like guns, you know, sure, you can have all the gun laws you want, X, Y, Z. I wonder what the comments are looking like right now.
Anyway, you could have all these gun laws, whatever.
But at the fucking end of the day, bro, if somebody really, really wants to fucking get a gun and kill somebody, they're going to do it.
And they can even make a gun.
3D print a fucking gun.
And that's how I feel kind of about like porn, where it's like, if an underage, you know, teenager who's older wants to see that, they're going to find a way to do it.
But if you make it more difficult, then I think you're exposing less people to something that can essentially traumatize them.
You know, you ever heard that show, Euphoria?
I met someone from it one time at a party.
Well, they really talk about in an incredible way how porn has just fucked with the youth thinking like, yeah, bitch, take this dick.
Yeah.
Like, oh, and it's like, that's really, I mean, it's a time and place.
You know what I'm saying?
It's a time and place.
Definitely evening.
But, you know, like your first time is.
Yeah, you can't be like that.
And then a girl thinks like all this crazy.
And then here's the crazy part.
You're not even connecting with the other person at all.
Now you're almost performing actions that you've seen.
So then it's like the human connection, it's totally gone.
It's like we're almost, it's become weird because with porn, you almost start to, and with everything digital, you almost start to impersonate what you've seen.
Yeah.
So now we've taken art in all forms.
And some people consider porn art, and that's fine.
We've taken art, we've made art, and now we're watching the art we've made and reenacting the, we don't, it's like we're, we're done.
Yeah, all I know is like my first time having sex, I was like fucking Titanic.
Wow, really?
I was like, I love you.
Oh my God.
Well, also, I never experienced true love, like love.
I don't really believe like, like I love my mom and my dad, but like not like I love my son, not like I love my wife.
You know what I mean?
It sounds like that was a big change.
Like once you had a family, it kind of, because sometimes you hear that a family will solve a lot of those old like wounds because you suddenly have a thing that it's not about this behind you anymore.
It's obviously about in front of you.
Yeah.
And when you're loving your son, you kind of replenish that thing that you didn't get in a weird way.
It's like, no, not even in a weird way.
Wow.
That is it.
That is it.
And that's what's so crazy.
Like just a few.
Did you know it was going to be like that?
Like, were you scared to get into a marriage?
Were you scared to have a child?
Like, those are two.
Well, I wasn't scared to get your marriage this time because I got it right the second time.
Oh, you did a first marriage?
Yeah, I did a first marriage.
Wow.
That was hard.
And that was just, it just wasn't my person.
There was no, there was no like, no, infidelity, no, this, no, that.
It's just, and respectfully, like, I won't really get into it because that isn't my story to tell.
And that's a story that I would happily tell you, you know, if you over dinner or hanging out or whatever.
But publicly, it just wasn't my person.
It wasn't right.
So when I found my wife now, Brittany, it was just like, oh my God.
Like, she, and she got it.
The wildest shit, I felt like Leo.
Like, I found the bitch when she was 19. Ooh, yeah.
You know what I'm saying?
Jerry Leo Lewis, dude.
Bring up Jerry Lee Lewis.
He was a pedophile, but he was.
That's not what I'm talking about.
You got that, dude.
You're a musician.
But I'm just saying, he was, he married like a damn 12-year-old.
Oh, no, he didn't.
Really?
Yeah, Jerry Lee Lewis.
What the fuck?
I mean, that kid is.
That wasn't me.
Anyway.
No, you have a great wife.
No.
Did your wife just do a cameo in your new video?
Yeah, I had a video where she popped in.
I thought that was her, man.
I watched.
It was cool.
It's fun, bro.
It's a nice anthem.
Thank you.
It's been fun just being a dad and being a husband.
And I also, that's one thing that I love about getting older, especially in hip-hop, because hip-hop is such a young genre.
It turns 50 this year.
And for me, I love talking about being a father.
I love talking about aging, you know, because hip-hop and pop music in general, it's all about like just young, young, young, young, young.
Literally like 17, 18, 19, 20, like all this shit.
But it's like, bro, I'm fucking 33, man.
You know what I mean?
I'll be getting hemorrhoids and shit.
Like, I want to talk about like.
Yeah, you're an adult.
I want to talk about real stuff, you know, what it means to invest your money and be smart with things, which your average kid's like, I don't give a fuck.
Let's blow the money.
Let's go to Vegas, baby.
But it's just like, man, I've done that and I've had that.
And that's cool.
But like, it's, I just love this stage of where I am.
And you talk about looking forward.
And in many ways, I definitely do look forward.
But so much of my career, bro, you know, 10 years ago, it was always, I could never be present because I was just like, oh, fuck, I'm broke.
Like, I'm like, my roaches have fleas.
Fuck.
Like, I have nothing.
Like, you know what I mean?
Like, and so I wanted something.
I wanted something.
And so once you got a little more comfortable, it made things easier.
Yeah, but I'm still thinking about the future because it's like, and this is when I started to get therapy.
Cause you got to understand, bro.
I remember, you know, I did a deal one year.
I made $30 million.
I had the biggest panic attack on my basketball court, Flex.
Really?
Yeah, because I was like, bro, I was so poor my whole life.
EBT, man.
I fucking ate cereal with powdered milk, bro.
Okay.
Like, I didn't have anything.
Like, I had nothing.
I never had shit.
So then when I finally got it, I like fucking freaked out about it.
And then I started going to therapy.
And I was like, what do I do?
What if I lose my money?
And the bitch laughed at me.
I call her the bitch.
She's my therapist.
She's amazing.
She's, she's Australian.
She's a down-ass bitch.
She is a down-ass bitch.
No, but she's extra down because the bitch is Australian.
So she's down under.
You know what I'm saying?
Anyway, So she said, she was like, she was like, first of all, you're not going to lose your money.
You're not a fucking idiot.
She's like, look at you.
You're making proper investments.
You're taking care of yourself.
She said, but if you did, what would you do?
And I was like, I'd fucking grind my ass.
And she's like, exactly, you get it back.
So, number one.
And I remember this is at a time when I was like going through a lot mentally, like a lot, because I had the fucking 1-800 song out.
You know what I mean?
It's like the biggest thing in the world.
And everywhere I go, it's like suicide.
And people are like, I tried to kill myself.
And my brother tried to kill himself.
And my sister killed herself.
And just everywhere I'm going, it's like all this shit.
And I'm like, right.
If people don't know, there was a song that anthem that he did that was about suicide prevention and just about kind of loving yourself a little bit of evolution.
Mental health.
Yeah, mental health.
So go on.
So yeah, so dealing with all that was like a lot.
But for me, like I had turned down a million dollar show in Australia and I've always wanted to go to Australia.
And it was literally, it was a festival and I was going to headline the festival, bro, 45 minutes, million dollars.
Wow.
And I turned it down.
And people could be like, oh, you're fucking crazy.
It's like, bro, I want to put a bullet in my head.
Right.
Like, I didn't give a fuck.
And then so I remember talking to my therapist and being like, oh, you know, people are going to think I'm crazy.
And she goes, what do you value?
Do you value getting on a 22-hour flight in your mental state right now and going all the way to a country that you've never been that you want to go to, but this isn't how you want to do that?
What do you value?
I was like, I value resting and taking a fucking break so I don't off myself.
And she said, then do that.
And when discussing money and things with her, I remember she goes, she goes, listen, you're always stressing about money and you're a millionaire.
She goes, you know, I see a few billionaires.
You know what they tell me?
I say, what?
She goes, they say, if only I had another billion.
And I'm like, yo, that's deep.
I need to let this shit go.
I made it.
And so around this time, this is like 2018, around this time, and then I fucking grind it for like another two years, but I realized, man, I was always looking that like so far, man.
Like, you know, when I started rapping, I'm like, okay, I got to put out a mixtape, put out a mixtape.
Okay, I got to get fans, get fans.
Okay.
I got to start touring, start touring.
Okay, I need a record deal.
Get a record deal.
Okay.
I got to put out an album.
Put out an album.
Okay.
The second album can't flop.
Second album does good.
Okay.
I need to.
And then it's like, I got to go gold.
And then you go gold.
Okay.
I got to go platinum.
And then you go platinum.
Motherfucker, I'm almost 10 times platinum on one fucking song.
Like, it's just a crazy, it's just, it never ends.
And so once I made it, when my son came out the puss and I realized I was like, yo, fuck everything else.
I want to be as present as I can be.
So like me being here with you today, it's why I did my research.
You know what I mean?
It's why I'm so happy and honored that you would let me on this show.
I can't believe, bro, I've been doing this shit for 10 years and people like you want to sit down with me.
It's incredible.
So now every single day, of course, I have goals, ambitions, things that I look forward to, but I do the best I can to truly just be like, wow, this is cool.
And also like, I'm not fucking dying of an illness.
Right.
You know, like to have some gratitude to look at some of the positive for sure.
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What was the thing?
Like, why were you all, were you able to figure out why you were always looking towards the future?
Like, what that was, like, how that started or anything inside?
Because my present was always horrible growing up.
Yeah.
So it was always like, I can't wait till I'm 18. I'll get it one day.
Yeah.
No, I'll get the fuck out of my house because my house was a war zone, man.
You know what I'm saying?
Like I said, motherfuckers.
It's traumatic.
Yeah, cooking crack, cooking.
So how can you be present?
How can I be like, oh yeah, this is so sick?
I am so broke.
Right.
Yeah.
Nobody loves me.
Yeah, exactly.
So I was always looking ahead.
You know what I mean?
And then now I'm like, oh my God, my wife loves me.
My son loves me.
My fans love me.
This is it.
I can really soak this moment up.
Even right here, I'm not even joking.
I'm not trying to sound extra.
Bro, this is so fucking cool.
I've wanted to do your show for like a long time.
Thanks, dude.
Yeah, man.
There's a couple, there's a couple, couple shows I have and people that just in general that I want to spend time with, you know, and I'm glad that we could do this.
So, thank you for having me.
Oh, thanks, man.
Was it so?
With those receptors being weird from growing up, with not being able to like, because your receptors get closed down if people aren't loving you and that sort of thing, right?
If things aren't proper, if things aren't comfortable, the receptors, I think, for accepting love and that sort of thing probably get kind of damaged as a child.
Are you able to feel that change once you had your own family?
Or has that also been like a work in progress?
That was a work in progress because I always was like, one day I'm going to have a family.
One day I'm going to have a family.
And then I had the family that I do now.
And I realized, holy shit, you know, my best friends who were driving me to shows and are my best friends to this day.
My producer who made all my beats, like these were my family this whole time.
As I met these people, like really blood is like, it's crazy.
You think, like, even think about this.
Like, I know it sounds so stupid, but my wife's parents, first of all, I hit the jackpot.
They're fucking stoners and we smoke joints together.
Oh, really?
Yeah, they're the best.
Anyway, but like, they're my family, but we're not related.
Like, isn't that weird to think?
I mean, I'm not even being funny.
I'm just saying, like, there's no, we don't have the same blood.
Right.
But my son is like, that's my grandparents.
And that's my mom.
And that's my dad.
Like, even the premise of like a mother and a father, like a husband and wife, like, obviously, I know it sounds stupid.
I'm setting you up.
I'm giving you gold, but I'm saying like, they're not related.
But like, as a child, you look at, you're like, this is our family.
Like, like, it's so weird to process that these two people had a whole life before it fucked different people, all types, but they came together.
And it's just like, that's my parents, bro.
I never had that shit.
Right.
I never had it.
So then when I, you know, I meet my wife and then we have a baby.
And then I'm like, whoa, like this connection is a real thing.
And even the connection that I have like with other members of her family, like they really become my family.
And I'm like, whoa, that's weird.
Because also, even though I'm very close with a lot of them, there's some that I'm not that close with, but I'm so close with my homies I came up with.
So then I'm like, well, what is family?
It's a weird thing.
And I'm still trying to process it.
That's the biggest thing I'm really enjoying about my 30s is the lack of like giving a fuck about external shit and being able to really just like live my life.
They say that I feel more comfortable truly in my skin than ever before.
Because I'll do videos and I'll be all funny and stupid.
Yeah, kind of just becoming more your personal personality, right?
For sure.
Than just a music or just seeing the part of your personality that does music.
I'm trying to be Rap Seacrest, motherfucker.
I want to be hip-hop fucking Jimmy Fallon.
Like that's what I want.
I just, I don't know.
And I'll still always make music, but this is it.
Like, I want to, you know, come back and do this shit.
I want to go do other shows.
I want you to come fuck with me on my YouTube shit.
Like, I really just, I just want to make people laugh and have fun and educate along the way, just like you're doing.
This is really great, man.
For you to be able to crack an incest joke one second and then talk about serious mental health.
It's like dope, man.
You walk this really fine line, which is, you should be proud of yourself.
Oh, thanks.
I'm sucking this guy's dick right now, but it's true.
Well, I can't help it, but you know, try to stay, be alive and be, you know, do my best to just be myself.
It's hard a lot of times.
I'm kind of intrigued on what you, like, since you were saying if you didn't have a family until you, it takes somebody like that to go through your experience to be able to make, but then you do something, you make music and beats that bring people together, which is interesting.
Yeah.
Because it's so interesting that somebody that didn't have something that brings, makes them feel together would then have the propensity almost like a mirror or an inverse of it, would be able to bring people together.
It's really crazy how all that works.
It's the craziest part is, is like, you know, I'm very, I'm very known for, you know, like I said, my positive lyrics, like uplifting lyrics, letting people know, like, it's going to be all right.
Keep persevering.
Keep fighting no matter what you're going through.
But when I first was writing lyrics like that, it was to me.
So because I didn't have anybody there.
I didn't have family.
I didn't have friends really to articulate and be like, bro, you're okay.
Like, you'll get through.
Like when my mom's half naked and all fucking bleeding and the cops are coming and dragging the bitch down the stairs and, you know, just the wildest shit is happening.
Nobody was there to say that.
So I'm writing these lyrics like, don't worry, whatever you're going through, you'll get through it.
You know, don't worry, you know, whatever is troubling your mind in time, you're going to find that it's all like, whatever.
And I would just get this and it would, it was just released.
And then over years, like, and then once I kind of started popping, and when I say popping, not really, I mean fucking beyond underground, like internet days of dat piff and free mixtapes and YouTube and shit, like the beginning of Twitter.
And I started to see people be like, man, this song really resonated with me.
I was like, what the fuck?
And that's another reason why I even created the 1-800 song because about suicide prevention is because so many people were like, bro, your music saved my life.
And I'm like, what?
And they're like, no, for real.
And then I did this tour for my second album where I got a tour bus and literally did a fan tour from California to New York, going to my fans' houses, eating dinner with them and their families, playing them my album early.
And so many of them were saying, yo, your music saved my life.
And they would go into detail about how and why.
And then I was like, whoa, okay, this isn't just, whoa, this is crazy.
And then that's when I decided to write the song 1-800 because I was like, if I selfishly was writing these records for me, and then they've affected you people to the point where, what do you mean, you people?
Anyway, to the point where you feel like I legitimately have affected you, but I wasn't trying.
What could happen if I tried?
And that's what happened.
And then Congress wrote me a letter and was like, it's fucking statistics have proven that your song has saved lives around the world.
Which is wild.
It's crazy shit.
That headed Evans.
Or what'd you do with the letter?
I got it.
I'm trying to frame it.
I want to get it framed like a doctorate.
Like, you know, when you become a doctor and it's like on that thick raised paper.
I want that shit.
That's one thing that gets hectic about when your life gets busy is all the things you want to frame and haven't framed yet.
It's kind of like, I mean, I know it sounds crazy.
That's one of The toughest things.
There's a pile of about four things at home that I want to frame, and one day I will.
I got a lot of pictures too with people.
Like, I've been so blessed to meet so many people, and then I'll remember and I'll tell my assistant, I'm like, yo, find that picture of me and Stevie Wonder, like, for real, or get to joining me and Kobe.
Or, hey, can you get the shit of the time I met Chappelle and he bought me a drink?
Like, I'll literally just all these Sarah Silverman.
Like, dude, I'm so lucky to like meet.
Hey, bro, we're going to take a picture after this.
I'm framing it.
Where the fuck do you think it's going?
Yeah, it's going to my house, bro.
Do you, um, so being black and white, is that that's got to be like the fucking coolest, I feel like, but is it scary sometimes?
Like, do you feel black and white or do you just feel one thing?
Yeah, that's a good.
I feel like me.
I know that sounds cliche.
I just, I feel like me, but I do like if you walk past like a barbecue spot, do you feel like part of you comes to the edge of your skin?
Yeah.
You know what I'm saying, though?
Do you feel some cells kind of scoot over to, and if you walk past like a cop, do you feel those same cells like kind of move over?
Oh, 100%.
But the craziest part is, is like, because here's a fact.
Whether you fucking like logic or not, or whether you're like, whatever, it's like, I don't give a shit.
I'm not here to argue.
Because, you know, there's people who's like, well, you don't, you'll never understand what it's like to walk down the street as a black man.
And I'm like, yo, all right, why don't you just shut the fuck up?
Because you'll never understand what it's like to walk down the street as a black man in a white man's body.
And then, wait, wait, let me shut the fuck up.
Why are we arguing?
Yeah, you're like Mrs. Doubtfire.
But that's what I'm saying.
Why are we?
Hello?
Why are we arguing in the first place?
What you're going through, I'm not denying what you're going through.
Fuck all that shit.
So for me, it's like, yeah, it's a crazy thing.
Like, yeah, and I love it.
You know, motherfuckers used to always be like, oh, he talks about this all the time.
I'm like, so the fuck what, man?
I don't give a fuck.
I'm proud.
I like it.
You know what I mean?
You look at motherfucker Twitter bio and their shit be like black and proud, motherfucker.
I'm biracial.
I'm proud.
But I do feel, I definitely code switch a lot.
You familiar with this term?
Uh-uh.
Code switching is like, if I was going into like a fucking interview or some shit, I'm like, well, hello there, sir.
Yes, I'd really like this job.
I'd really appreciate that.
Thank you so much.
Oh, excuse me.
I have one call.
Nigga, what the fuck, man?
You got my shit.
You know what I mean?
So it's like, it is a part of you.
It's almost like you kind of feel like two different people.
But that's one thing in the culture as well.
It's like anybody who's of the culture who meets me, IRL, some bullshit.
Anybody who fucking really meets me, shakes my hand, they know what's up.
Because it's not a thing.
Why would it even be a thing?
It's not a thing.
It's only a thing on the internet.
It's only a thing on the internet.
Like, I've never met anybody and they're like, no, you're not.
You're not.
Because it's not a thing.
It's not a thing.
It's not a thing.
It's like, I definitely love to let people know who I am.
So yeah, when I meet somebody, if they're like, tell me about yourself, first thing out of my fucking mouth, black dad, white mom, da-da-da, grew up broke.
It's just, it's my fucking identity.
There's no identity crisis.
This is who the fuck I am.
And I know.
Well, it's also, it's a responsibility in a weird way.
As you get older, it's like you become this piece of an important time when people are discussing stuff and they want to know what things feel like and they want to know, like, you know, and some people that don't know how to relate.
Like, I like always was envious.
I always was envious of black kids growing up.
Like, I grew up in like a half and half neighborhood, right?
And I was real envious of black kids because, I mean, this may sound crazy, but I like they at least had an excuse for how people treated them and looked at them in a weird way.
And it's not an excuse, but I understand.
They like, and then it was like, if you were poor and white, it was like you just fucked up somehow.
It was like, how, what the fuck?
How did you fuck up?
You know, like you didn't.
It's like the white privilege thing, which I agree with.
I think white privilege is a lot of people.
And there's always more to it.
Exactly.
There's always so much more to it.
It's like you're just talking in like a specific moment, but I always was like, man, I feel, it was because I felt sometimes a similar way that some of my black friends felt.
Yeah, but because you guys are of, you're of the culture, bro.
That's what I'm saying.
Culture, to me, when I say of the culture, I'm not talking about skin color.
I'm not talking about none of that shit.
It's like I grew up with Salvadorian kids and black kids and white kids and Asian homies, and we were all from the same place.
We talked the same, bro.
There was white people in our clique, and it'd be like 14 black dudes, three white guys, and then my biracial ass.
And the white boys would say nigga.
They do.
That's what they do.
They would say it.
Because the black dudes are like, hey, say that shit.
Say you down.
Like, that's the internet.
They used to spray paint it on my legs sometimes, I remember.
What?
And I was like, this is fucking.
What the fuck?
I don't want it this bad.
But yeah, it's a crazy thing.
But that's what I mean of the culture.
It's like you understand that plight of like, you know, just, well, I mean, did you grow up poor?
Yeah.
Yeah.
So then growing up broke and and longing for things and one thing and then having that connection.
So it's like, damn, you know, like I never had the PlayStation.
Right.
Like, I mean, I did like later, but I had like the, like when everybody was on like the PS3 and shit, I finally got my PlayStation type shit.
So yeah, yeah.
But, but that's, that's a big thing, I think.
All this fighting on the internet of what is this or that?
Because there's no like, there's no voice.
There's no like ambassador of black people.
Like, do you know what I mean?
Or white people or this or Asian people.
Like, just because one black dude or white guy says something, it's like, they don't fucking speak for an entire race of people, let alone almost what you could consider like a denomination or just a group of people in a specific place.
Because also like racism in America is so different from racism in Europe or this or that.
Like, you know, people have their different experiences with it in ways that we could never understand.
Oh, totally.
Yeah.
I could never understand what it was like to be, what it's like to be something different than what I am.
You know, I could try in moments, you know.
I think one thing that I envied about black, and it was mostly guys that I knew.
I didn't know a lot of black girls when I was a kid, but just their origin story.
They had like an origin story.
You know, it felt like they had like a history and a purpose.
It sounds like we're talking about a fucking Marvel movie.
What do you mean?
But that's what it felt like.
It was like, it was like if, I don't know, black, it just felt like they had like a they were coming from a place.
It was obvious that they were coming, like making, they had to make a comeback in a way.
Oh, yeah.
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, the deck was stacked against them.
That was it.
yeah, I was like, What the fuck, where is this going?
Yeah, it's 100%.
I mean, right, so they had like a fucking, like, they had like a thing that everybody knew that was obvious.
And it was like, I think I always envied that a little bit.
It was like, I feel why, why would you envy because I feel some of these ways, but nobody knows it by looking at me.
I get it, but that's different.
But once again, that isn't really so much of a race thing.
Like, even though what you're talking about, yeah, that's like fucking 400 years of slavery and oppression.
And fuck it.
Yeah, 100%.
Like, that's some deep shit.
But what you're talking about is like the plight of man, bro.
Like, you came up with these people in your own way, though.
You definitely don't have the same lineage or history that goes into a lot of emotion, confusion, need for education, you know, that black folk have about themselves.
And just, you know, whether it would be, you know, someone in Latin culture as well, experiencing their own thing.
So, but aren't you, what's your father?
My father's from Nicaragua.
Yeah.
But I've perceived mostly as white.
But I mean, aren't you biracial?
Yeah, but I don't have a dual citizenship.
You don't need a citizen shit, motherfucker.
DNA.
What you talking about?
DNA is your citizenship.
Like you're.
Yeah.
So you're mixed, technically.
Yeah.
So was your father light-skinned?
No, he was dark-skinned, kind of.
Welcome to the club.
Shit.
What the fuck do you mean?
But that's what I mean.
So you, but do you perceive yourself as white?
No, people call us like, my brother's real dark skinned, and people would call us like, what do they call it?
Oh, Puerto Ricans when I was growing up.
That was like the big thing that everybody called us.
They didn't call y'all Puerto Rican?
Yeah, they didn't have any Mexicans back then.
So for some reason, people like some Puerto Ricans.
That's how I felt about Maryland.
There was like no Mexicans.
It was just a bunch of Salvadorans.
And I was just eating papoosas all the time.
They're so fire.
But wait.
We had a group called Whites Against Mexicans actually in our town for a little bit, but we didn't have any Mexicans.
So it was just like, I think they kind of roughed up this Chinese kid once.
What the fuck?
Okay.
Wait a second.
Hold on.
So how do you perceive yourself, or at least how did you growing up?
Did you perceive yourself?
I perceive myself as white.
Because I think my dad was so old, I was so embarrassed of anything to do with him that I didn't want to know about it or learn about it, you know?
I mean, my dad grew up in a village where people would eat dirt.
They didn't have anything to eat and they would eat dirt and get sick and die all the time.
I remember him telling me stuff about that.
But I didn't care.
I think I rejected him so much in a weird way because he was so much older that it was every time he was around, even though I longed to like kind of know him more, I think it was so embarrassing once I kind of became like of age where I knew what my friends, the looks on their face.
Isn't that so annoying too?
Like, no, but not even fuck those kids, but just you that you were so young.
And that gets almost like imagine, not to right, but if I could be me now, exactly.
And I would accept and just talk about all the things that you could learn.
But it's all good.
You know what I mean?
That's, that's, that's life.
And, and that, that's where you, uh, where you stood.
And you were a kid.
You were being normal, though.
It's not like you were like some piece of shit.
You know what I mean?
It's like, you know, you were just like dead.
You know what I mean?
Right.
It was normal.
It was like, dad, drop me off around the block.
Like, don't, don't pull up.
So I get that.
They had, what was that?
Did you see the thing they had?
Zach, if you can pull it up, it was about, they just had some kids that got in trouble.
They had a Salvadorian caretaker.
You know, this thing I'm talking about in Miami.
The second graders, it was a blackface incident that they had.
What the what?
Yeah, yeah.
We were talking about this.
Or two, or what is it, two-year-olds?
Yeah, so there's a Miami preschool.
It's kind of getting some flack because they put two-year-olds in like Blackface for Black History Month.
What?
At least they gave them jobs and shit, though.
I mean, damn, what was it?
Yo, you're kidding.
No, but here's what happened.
There's a Salvadorian.
Can you find the people that run this preschool in Miami are from Argentina.
So they don't know the culture here as much.
Oh, I understood.
So this was Black History Month.
So they were just, so they had these kids and they, some of the white kids, they wanted them to be able to be black.
And so.
And then you got these little innocent little kids that don't know what the fuck is going on.
Well, the crazy thing is they blurt the kids' face out.
Oh, yeah.
Like that's going to make it different.
That makes it look even worse.
I know.
It makes it look even worse.
It looks like 8-bit fucking...
Only black face I've ever really personally experienced is this Rolex I got.
Oh gang.
Yeah.
This shit is dope.
Yeah.
It's actually in Japanese kanji too, which is which is a vibe.
Is that a, let me see.
It's from Tokyo.
Oh dang, that's nice.
Thank you.
And is that stone inside of it?
What do you mean?
What's in the inside of it?
Oh, you mean like what is the was it the black shit made out of?
I don't know.
It might be Onyx or something.
I don't fucking know.
Because this show, yeah, because well, the blackface stuff comes from like minstrel shows.
They had like, I think it was like 200, 150 years ago.
They had like shows where they wouldn't let black performers perform.
So they made them, so they made white people.
They had them put black stuff on their face, right?
I think that's where a lot of the obviously the origins of people being against it you know that it makes people feel uncomfortable I just wonder if at a certain point like if it's a two year old kid what the fuck does he There's an adult doing that.
Like, let's just be real.
You know what I'm saying?
First of all, where does this kid have access to paint or shoe polish like they was doing back in the day?
Like, where, like, it's, no, this is, this is an adult.
Now, this specific thing, it's like, oh, okay.
They were, it was like a Latin situation.
They didn't know.
Like, it is what it is.
You know what I mean?
But besides that.
Do you think there will ever be a time where it's like, say, a kid who loves, you know, Derek Rose is his favorite athlete.
He's an eight-year-old.
He can, he can put on makeup if he wants.
He can darken Up a little bit or urban out a little bit to go out trick-or-treating, you know.
What?
Or he can like urban out?
I mean, he can get like urban out.
I mean, the urban out right now.
Yo, you got where's the shoe polish?
Let's urban out.
What the fuck?
I don't know.
I'm just saying, do you know?
Okay, of course not.
You can't fucking, what the fuck kind of shit is that?
You can't do that shit, man.
Now, the difference is, though, it's like if you're Robert Downey Jr., I think that shit's hilarious.
Like, if you're, if you're a fucking actor, it's a gig, it's a jot, it's a bit, you know, you're fucking Chappelle, you're that, you're like, what?
Like, it's fucking, if this is what you do, right?
You know what I mean?
Because I'm gonna be real, bro.
Like, like, comedians, I feel like I don't even, yep, there it is.
There it goes.
Now, don't get me wrong.
That's the most racist shit ever, but that's why it's fucking hilarious.
Let's just be real.
Anybody who's watched Tropic Thunder, it's like, you got to understand they're actually making fun of the racism of Hollywood at the time by casting a white guy to play a black guy who's really another guy and a guy with another guy.
Yeah.
Survive.
Survive.
Like, and that's just like, man, when I was 18 years old and I watched that, I was like, this is fucking hilarious.
But it's, I believe that the shit was done right.
It was tasteful.
It was this.
It was, it was all, I mean, even when there's a moment in the movie when he's like, a white character is talking to him as he's in blackface.
And he's like, something, something, you people.
And he's like, what do you mean, you people?
And then the black homie who's the actor, he's like, what the fuck you mean, you people?
That's funny, bro.
That's funny.
And so question for you as a comedian, like, where do we draw the line?
Because I feel like shit's easing up a bit.
And I think, I think with the, I know, we all know where it started.
Harvey Weinstein, Me Too movement, cancel culture, like it became this crazy, almost over correction.
But I'm happy it happened just because like there's a lot of shit, pieces of shit in the industry that were getting away with a lot of stuff.
Now, there's a big difference between like, oh, I made a little mistake or da-da-da-da-da, and then just like straight up rape and things like that.
So it was, I think it was really good that that happened.
But then, you know, yeah, 100%.
It was, it was incredible that these women were given a voice and given power and, you know, taking back power that was essentially stripped from them, which is disgusting.
And that's something I've dealt, seen the women in my life deal with personally.
So I got that.
Now, fast forward, you know, a couple of years that I, and then you're just making jokes and shit.
Like I saw this one girl, they was trying to cancel this girl in high school.
I was watching it, you know, H3, H3, you ever, yeah, it's like, yeah, Ethan Klein?
Yeah, Ethan.
So like Ethan did this, not bit, but, you know, you know, and he did this thing where he's talking about this, this little white girl who's wearing a, like a kimono prom dress.
And then everybody's like, that's cultural appropriation.
Like this girl's not allowed to wear a kimono.
She's not Japanese.
Like all this shit, right?
And I was just like, God damn, this is fucking crazy because I'm like wearing a, I'm like wearing a fucking kimono watching this shit because I, because I went to Japan and I'm fucking doing an album in Japan and I'm like wearing my shit.
You know, I think I'm turning in Japanese.
Like I'm fucking vibing it over there and I'm supporting the economy.
I'm buying it's a fucking little Japanese woman who's like, you know, have the Dominica Cause I must have this.
Thank you very much.
And I'm like, oh, that's dope.
Does that mean I'm culturally?
What the fuck?
Like, I don't know.
Now, this is a hot take, but I'm just simply saying, that's kind of crazy.
You know what I mean?
Yeah.
Like, she, it wasn't like she was like straight traditional, even, even then, though, but it was just like she was just like wearing a cute little, a little thing.
And they was trying to destroy this, this girl.
So as a comedian, how do you feel when people be really like, did you see what happened to, you know, Troy Bond?
You know who Troy Bond is?
Uh-uh.
Bring him up.
Yo, you don't know Troy Bond?
Troy Bond?
Yo, okay.
First of all, Troy Bond is the future of comedy.
Is he really?
This kid, yeah, co-tweet this motherfucker.
He's on TikTok.
He's incredible.
And if you go to it, you might be able to see it here.
Troy Bond.
If you go to his, yeah, keep scrolling down.
Oh, fuck.
I feel like I met him before.
He's a gay gentleman?
No, he's not gay.
But he does refer to himself as a Puerto Rican lesbian.
But he's actually black and white.
He made a joke about how he looks like that.
Yeah, he looks like that killer, member?
Who?
Jeffrey Devil?
Johnny Rodriguez or whatever.
Oh, the fucking...
What was that guy?
The guy, the fucking...
The Zodiac?
No, not the Zodiac.
I think it's Ronnie Rodriguez, who was.
We go from Troy Bond to Ronnie Rodriguez.
Dude, somebody's got to kill.
Bro, I'll tell you this.
They are.
What the fuck?
No, that's not.
You're thinking of Ramirez.
Ramirez.
Ronnie Ramirez.
You're thinking of Ramirez, the fucking whatever he is.
Ronnie Ramirez, the Zodiac salesman or whatever.
But listen, so if you, I don't know if you have TikTok up there, if you can go to TikTok or if somebody can try to get you this clip, because I think it's really important that you show it on the show.
And the reason is, is because, so he's black and white.
Okay.
I'm going to be honest.
He looks like he could be white or something else or, you know, he's kind of like yourself.
Ambiguous.
Yeah.
And so he's doing this great set.
We'll find it.
We'll find it.
He's doing this great set.
And this girl screams at him and she's like, that's so fucking racist, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
And she doesn't even know that he's mixed.
You get a lot of that in clubs these days.
So I'm just like, why the fuck would you go to the club, to a comedy show?
You see the bill.
You know pretty much who's going to be there that night, who's got time.
You know, I've only ever been to a comedy club once.
We'll talk about that in a bit.
But what is that like for you?
Well, I think this is what's happened.
I think this is what's happened.
I think you have, I don't think you have as much racism in the world as you did 25 years ago.
I really don't.
I think what you have these days, you have a lot of division that happens from people like online.
You have a lot of people that have marketed the past.
And it's great to be reminded by the past, undeniably, right?
We still have a lot of recovering to do from the past.
I think some cultures, even genetically, they have to, it will take time for their DNA to heal from traumas of the past, no doubt.
But I think now you get a lot of the past marketed, like packaged into clips, into like movies where you're constantly reminded of the fucked up things of the past to the point where some people, that just becomes their identity now.
So they don't have any real like human connection to it.
They just have this sort of like, it's almost like, I don't want to say it's an educational connection, but it's just like, oh, I see this, that's racist.
There's no, I don't have any texture to it.
There's no like history to it for me.
It's just something that I see now online and I know that that's supposed to be.
But what's also crazy to me is the hit when there is history ties.
So for example, I wrote this movie script a couple years ago called Jerry about a homeless comedian who tells jokes on Venice for a dollar.
Okay.
And one night he's telling stand-up jokes, all types of jokes.
He's telling black jokes, white jokes, gay jokes.
It's just being funny.
He's being himself.
Okay, Jerry.
And he makes a joke about, I forget it now, but it's something along the lines of like, oh man, could you imagine if like a South Central blood had leukemia, he would be like the illest blood of all time because it's a blood condition.
Anyway, it's a lot funnier the way that I wrote it.
And in the crowd, in the crowd, this woman who was laughing hysterically stops and starts heckling the man, heckling the man, heckling the man.
And then she's just like, how could you possibly say that?
And he doesn't even argue with her.
And his manager, Mike, which is the character I'd like to play, is like, dude, why didn't you say anything to that woman?
And he goes, you know, a lot of people tend to be hypocrites.
She's a white, middle-aged white lady.
She wants to laugh at black jokes.
She wants to look at that she's straight.
She wants to laugh at gay jokes.
He's like, it's very apparent.
It's either her, her mom, her dad.
Somebody died of a blood disease, bro.
It was this or that.
And it was just really cool because I've taken my own experience when writing that about what triggers people and what I've seen trigger people.
And I just think it's really kind of annoying that people like to pick and choose.
Don't get me wrong, you know, it's almost like if somebody was to make a Parkinson's joke.
You know, I actually, I made a joke.
I had a, my, my, you don't know Parkinson's.
I don't, but I'll tell you, I'll tell you something.
It's actually wild.
So a gentleman named Chewie does all my tattoos.
I met him through travel.
I saw him on your Instagram.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And so he asked me to give him a tattoo.
He did that Metal Gear Solid when it took about six or seven hours.
Exactly.
You spent your time.
You care.
You just look at it.
That's a cool one, actually.
It reminded me of that game, too.
I love that game.
So Wu-Tang, I have a Wu-Tang tattoo right here.
And he was like, oh, I want you to give me a Wu-Tang tattoo.
And this was like five years ago.
And I jokingly, I'm like, y'all don't want to see that shit.
It looks like Michael J. Fox did it because it's all squiggly influenced.
Oh, yeah, bad off.
But I go, don't worry.
I can make that joke.
It's kind of like saying the N-word.
I was like, because I'm black.
And I said, because I have dystonia.
So dystonia, I have cervical dystonia.
I don't have a cervix.
Cervical is a, it's your neck.
And basically my head shakes like this.
Really?
Yeah, it goes like this.
Well, you got that remix in there.
Like, it's crazy.
And so I have to go get Botox injections in my neck.
No.
Yeah, deep in my neck.
It's why my neck looks like such a young bad bitch.
No, they go deep in there.
It's why Botox was invented.
And so they go all the way into weaken the muscle because my muscle.
I know, bro.
It's fucking crazy.
Does it put you down when you do it?
No.
I do it every three months.
I'm supposed to.
Like my shit right now.
Yeah, it's shaking a little bit now.
So I got to do it.
You need to get over there.
But what I'm saying is, it's like, bro, people die of Parkinson's disease.
You know, Ryan Reynolds' father passed away.
Like, he had to experience that.
So it's like, when I make a joke like that, I think it's really how it's just, it's just how you do it.
Like, that's a man's pain, bro.
You know what I mean?
We all love Michael J. Fox.
Fucking Michael SmithFly, man.
It's Marty.
Like, we love Michael J. Fox.
I love Michael J. Fox.
And in no way would I ever try to hurt somebody this or that.
That's honestly my pain.
That's like me, like the fact that if I didn't have these shots in me right now, or even my thumbs, my thumbs fucking shake.
Like it's these things that are insecure and that give me emotional pain and sometimes physical pain.
And in a way, I used comedy in that moment to like cope and with a man that I can relate to to some degree, not to that degree, obviously.
And I just think it's kind of crazy that if you're a good comedian, no, if you're a fucking great comedian, you use pain and you use trauma, such as Chappelle and Pryor and so many great people to talk about the hard things.
And so I think I love Chappelle because no matter what, these motherfuckers got hot takes, like I did.
I love great comedians because they will shit on black people, white people, Asian people, straight people, gay people.
Chinese.
And they have us all laughing with and at each other.
Like it's fun.
It used to be like that, bro.
I mean, it is with cats like you and who step out and they're like, fuck that.
And you say what you want.
Because like the thing is, is like I love Chappelle and I feel like the motherfucker is like damn near uncancelable.
I used to think Kanye was uncancelable.
I really believed it until Kanye.
And I love Kanye.
You know, it's just like, yo, he's mentally, he's ill, you know?
And it's like, I literally was like, there's nothing.
He was wearing White Lives Matter t-shirts.
I'm like, there's nothing Kanye West can do.
And he did snorkeling.
He did.
He did the two things that you don't do.
One of two.
One of two.
He didn't do the two things.
He did one of two things that you don't do that could get you canceled.
Sex shit that you shouldn't be doing, whether it's underage or this.
He did that?
No.
He didn't do that.
Oh.
I said one of two, so don't misfucking quote me now.
Okay.
Or fucking be racist.
And he's.
But he was racing against Jews.
That's what really got him canceled.
No, I know, 100%, but I'm still saying.
He tried every other race to be raced against, I feel like.
Yeah, but I'm just one, there is something to be said about, yeah, it's just like, bro, that's a group of people just in general that are fucking, they are killing in Hollywood.
Like, you know what I'm saying?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Like, it's just a real, in a great way.
Cool, whatever.
Fuck it.
Good for them.
But like, why would you say, not even that.
Take that shit out of it, right?
Bro, you're talking about, you know, Hitler was kind of cool.
Right.
I think there's something, he got addicted to something about pushing buttons.
I think that's what it was.
I agree.
I mean, from the hat to all this other shit.
And it's like, whatever, man, it's cool.
But I just, that was a sad thing.
That was like such a hard thing to see because I'm just like, man, that's one, that's the one thing, like legitimate, like hate, like hate, Hate speech, hate this, hate that.
It's like, bro, you could have pretty much said anything, but you backed Hitler.
Like, you can't do that.
Yeah, you can't back Hitler, dude.
I mean, even if he, you know, you know, yeah, you cannot do it.
Yeah, it's Hitler.
Yeah.
I mean, yeah, it's Hitler.
It's like, there's like four guys you can't back.
Hitler, Satan, Weinstein, I think.
Yeah, definitely, definitely that.
And I don't know who else, maybe that Wiley Coyote guy, whichever one's a bad one on that.
I love it.
But yeah, I think that that was crazy.
But here's one thing that happened with the Kanye thing that also got weird is like, if he's mentally unwell, right?
Do you think he's mentally unwell?
Yes.
Right.
So what a certain amount of people.
I don't think he's fucking, I don't think he's crazy.
Right.
He may be man.
He may have some different issues.
I think, yeah, I think he's bipolar and I think he's, but he's mentally unwell.
I don't think he's like fucking crazy.
Like, I'm not writing my man off.
I love this dude.
He's changed my life.
Yeah.
I never even met him.
You know, so anyway, please, I just want to make that very clear.
Like, I'm not hot take just trying to use Kanye's name for fucking TikTok.
Oh, I think, yeah, I wish Rihanna would have brought him out at halftime.
I think that would have been crazy.
Wouldn't it have?
Yeah, but you know, her folks were like, yeah.
Also, it's just like, is that where he really needs to be right now?
On stage in front of the entire world?
Right.
But, but that's exactly goes into my point I was going to make is that, or that I was going to bring up is that at what point should the media stop putting some dude out there if they know he's mentally unwell?
The same media that has running advertisements for like people are mentally unwell, get help, get help.
And then they're taking somebody, even if that guy's making a clown of himself, right?
If you know in your heart that part of him is not well and you continue to publicize him every day, every moment, everything he says, like that's kind of sick.
It is, but that's our culture.
That's what we live in, man.
You know, we love to see, I've even had it in a different scale, of course, but like just my rise, like I was the underground underdog.
Everybody wants that fucking underdog to win.
And then when they win, it's like, oh, he's killing it, killing it.
But like, they want you to fall.
Yeah.
They really do.
And in a movie, it only works like that.
Yeah.
And I've fallen, but it's almost like perception.
Like, have I really fallen?
Like, I'm fucking, I've made good investments monetarily.
You have a family.
Yeah, exactly.
So it's like, but there is a thing where it's like, oh, he's whack now, you know?
And it's like, oh, logic's whack.
And then you drop another album and they're like, logic's back.
Logic's whack.
Logic's back.
And then I'm just, this is where I finally found this place where I'm like, I give a fuck.
Logic's rich and happy.
Like, that's all that matters.
I could talk to you all day and I want to talk to you all day.
I got to pee.
All right, let's pee and we'll come back and do another half hour.
All right.
Oh, man.
Yo, how about pee drips?
Oh, fuck.
I feel like.
I used to shake it.
I don't anymore.
I keep it.
I just let it go right into the pan.
Nah, man.
I got to shake it a little bit.
Yeah, you're right.
You're right.
It's just annoying, but whatever.
P-drips.
It's like anyway.
How much do you sleep?
Are you able to sleep fully through the night or you got to get up and pee?
Well, oh, I get up every night.
100%.
Wow.
Every night.
Yeah, because I'm hydrated.
Like, I love, I drink a lot of water.
And I used to, I mean, I'm at the tail end of college.
Well, I never went to college, but I also.
Then that's the total attitude of somebody who never went to college.
I just mean like drinking.
What the fuck?
I heard that statement in my life.
Alcohol.
33. He's like, I'm at the tail end of college, bro.
Like, about time, bro.
Yeah.
I never drank really or smoked my whole life until I was like 27, 28. What?
So was that because your parents were addicts, you think?
100%.
Yeah, yeah.
Without doubt.
Wow.
And then, because I was like, I can't let this fuck me.
Like, literally, my friends would be like, man, just hit the weed.
I actually just released a video yesterday about this.
It's like an anime that is kind of a part of a trailer for this album, College Park, that's dropping.
And anyway, so I was just so scared that it would affect that.
And then when I made that 30 million, I was like, well, I did it.
Let's do Coke.
No, I'm just kidding.
No, I was like, I did it.
Okay, cool.
And then I just, I started to enjoy all I do.
I don't do anything hard and I don't judge anybody who does, but I do, I just, I love scotch and I love weed.
And I just started doing that.
And then I did it pretty, pretty good.
And then like 2020, like through COVID, I was getting fucking wrecked.
Really?
Yeah.
I mean, there's just nothing else to do.
I had my baby and whatever, but I was like just hungover all the time for like two years.
I was like perpetually hungover because I never did it.
I never did it.
I finally did it.
But it wasn't like, bro, I actually have a song in this album, you know, and I go, you know, I wake up seven days a week and get the job done.
You know, I'm always there for my wife and my son.
But at the end of the day, I love to pour one more like two, but occasionally three.
And it scares me, not because I have a problem.
I'm the type of person, if there's an issue, then I'm going to solve them.
It's more like seeing how this shit has destroyed life.
I look at my mom.
I look at my dad.
And it's just, it's a crazy thing, man.
So I saw that.
And I do.
I get the job done.
I did my thing.
But now I'm just, I'm at the tail end of it.
Cause I, yeah, I just, and I say this to say like my whole sleep schedule's changed because just as a musician, I used to be up till 5.30 in the morning, wake up at 1 p.m.
I was in the, I was in bed with my wife the other day and it was 2. And I was like, dude, if this was two years ago, it'd be 11 p.m.
for me right now.
It was two, it's, it was 2 p.m.
in the afternoon.
And so, yeah.
When you made the 30 million, what was it?
They bought your catalog?
No, that was a deal that I did.
I did a long-term deal?
Yeah.
Wow.
Yeah, yeah.
And on top of that, I re-upped with Def Jam because now I'm independent, but I re-upped with Def Jam and they gave me some nice M's as well.
And it was all like within a week of each other.
Oh.
Yeah, which is crazy.
Did you get one eight ball even?
No.
I've never done Coke.
Really?
I've never done anything hard.
My God, boy, I'll fucking do it for you.
All right.
I will.
If you need somebody to just tag me in, dude.
So wait, are you sober?
Yeah.
I got 10 months right now.
Wow.
Is it hard?
What's hard for me is if I think about women sometimes, that's my trigger.
It's women.
It's affection.
That's my trigger.
That would make me do drugs.
And I don't drink because I'm afraid I would buy cocaine.
I don't have a drinking problem.
I don't even like drinking.
I don't like pee that much.
I don't.
It's so dumb.
Oh, my God.
I like how it feels a little bit because it feels almost kind of Like, not homoerotic, but I feel like it's like you're wild.
It almost feels like kind of like pervy, like you're making your own weather and it feels like you're touching your wiener at the same time or whatever.
But I don't think it like, I don't like it, it doesn't, it bores me after a while.
It's like, I don't want to be doing this.
I would rather do something else that I haven't done before.
Honestly, that's how I feel because I quit.
I smoke cigarettes since I was 11. And I smoke cigarettes.
Yeah, yeah.
I smoke cigarettes from 11. It's a Baltimore national anthem, isn't it?
Smoking fucking cigarettes.
Newports at that.
I would smoke cigarettes with my mom.
Last long Bobby.
I would smoke cigarettes with my mother.
I remember when I was 11 years old and I was like, I'll never forget this.
I was watching Fresh Prince and I'm sitting on the carpet.
It's dusty ass carpet.
There's two roaches fucking each other.
My mom's in the kitchen making bologna and shit.
And I'm like, mom, I got to tell you something.
She's like, what?
And I'm like, you're not going to like it.
And she's like, oh, my God.
Did you get someone pregnant?
And I'm shooting ghost loads.
I'm 11. It's like, no.
And I'm like, no.
And she's like, did you, are you in trouble with the police?
And I was like, no.
She was like, are you doing drugs?
I'm like, no.
And she's like, oh, my God.
What's next?
Are you smoking cigarettes?
And I'm like, bitch, you smoke.
What the fuck?
So she's like, yeah.
And then a week later, like, and what she didn't know, and I told her this, I was like, bitch, for like the last like year, as we've been walking to the bus stop, I just, you flick your shit and I just grab that.
Yeah, and then we would smoke together.
Anyway, so I did that for- What a great scene in a movie or something.
You're seeing a young kid walking.
His mom, she's not even paying attention to him.
She's in her own world.
She flicks a cigarette.
He fucking grabs it.
He just continues to do it.
I should put that in something.
Yeah, so I smoked till I was 25. Then I quit for three years.
Like a secondhand son, you know?
Secondhand son.
And then I quit last year because I then did the vapes.
And you were smoking a real cigarette when you got into vapes, huh?
I got into vapes.
So I quit at 25 for three years.
And then at 28, I got into vapes because of my buddy Schwei, fucking asshole.
And then last year I went on tour with Wiz, Khalifa, and I was like, I can't fucking be smoking.
I got to stop.
So I did a cold turkey and bro, I was like sweating bullets and fucking like jolting out of bed, like jolting out of sleep.
It was crazy.
But it's like destroyed my anxiety.
Like all that nicotine, I didn't realize how much anxiety it was giving me.
That and then on top of fucking being hungover.
And then so once I just really kicked back on the, on the alcohol, stopped the nicotine and just smoked a hell of a lot more weight, I just feel great.
I fucking ran two miles today before I got here.
Nice, dude.
I've just been, yeah.
I did some yoga before I came today.
Vibe.
I need to stretch.
But I do think that, yeah, that nicotine's so bad, bro.
The hardest thing I've been having to do is quit vaping.
This is why I brought this up was because you were talking about if you get drunk, you might want to do an eight ball or something like that.
Because it's like, oh, that those inhibitions kind of go out.
And you're like, fuck it, let's go.
That's how I feel.
Bro, I was in the studio last night and I was like, man, I kind of want a cigarette.
Like my friends are smoking cigarettes and everybody's vaping.
My fucking new assistant, Jaden, he's just like.
He's vaping?
He's fucking vaping and shit.
I'm like, no, no.
But I'm like, I'm like, what the fuck?
And I stayed strong.
Yeah.
Because I remember the feeling of like, I don't want to do this anymore.
Like, this shit sucks.
You know, you just, whether it's cigarettes or vaping and you just do it and do it and do it.
And then it's really just like, ugh, like I'm not getting that hit anymore, that thing.
Yeah.
I'm just doing.
It's almost like I'm a fucking robot or something.
The saddest thing for me to think about is when I leave here today, what choice am I going to make?
Am I going to get in my car and stop at the vape shop?
They don't even sell the ones I like anymore.
So now I'm down to doing some like third string vape, some fucking, you know, it's like it's this vape would never start for any team, you know, and I'm going to, but am I going to go buy that, you know, and get like muffin ice or some fucking shit.
I'd almost rather smoke a cigarette.
Yeah.
Cause I'm going to hit it two times and all I'm going to do is I'm going to feel so bad about myself.
How about when the juice is just like, you ever get the juice where it's like in your mouth and shit and it's gross?
Did you ever jewel?
No, I don't jewel.
No, that was my shit.
I used to fucking just fucking jewel that shit.
Yeah.
Jeweling's gross.
No, jeweling was just fucking like crack, man.
So good.
But I'm glad I cracked.
I never smoked crack.
Well, I mean, I'm a crack baby.
Was one of your parents on crack when you were conceived, you think?
Yeah, I told you that.
They met at a crack house, Dio.
That's so cool, man.
I met a girl at a subway once, but not the same, but we both had a fucking little bit of sandwich in us, and she gave me a beech.
You know?
What about did you ever see any crack around the house or no?
Yeah, of course, bro.
Yeah, one of my sister's bruh.
Mono, my sister's boyfriend at the time showed me how to cook crack in the house.
What do you do?
Like, how do you make a good crack?
I'm going to be honest, bro.
This is like 10 years ago.
It was one time he just had this shit on the stove.
He had the actual, he had the Coke and he fucking mixed it with some shit and some fucking baking powder and put it on the thing.
He was like, okay, now grab the fucking, it was like in a jar, in a mason jar.
He's like, okay, grab that shit.
And he like gave me these like mittens and I put the mittens on.
He's like, now pour it and do all this fucking shit.
And meanwhile, we're not wearing masks or anything.
And this fucking shit.
You're in a crack house, dude.
And this is an MIT, bro.
Yeah.
And then it's like billowing upstairs through the vents where there's like little children sleeping.
Yeah, I'd be up there sleeping with them.
Not with them, but I'd be in a crib up there for sure.
God, that's got to be nice.
I never got to smoke crack, man.
I always wanted to.
Isn't that crazy?
I always wanted to.
What do you mean you never got to?
You sound like me talking about the Grammys.
I got nominated.
I went there.
I fucking lost to Bruno Mars.
I never did it, but I really wanted it.
What the fuck?
What?
I feel like that would, yeah, you always just imagine the fucking flame hitting around that rock and you being on the receiving end of it.
It's like Leo in fucking Wolf of Wall Street.
You ever see that?
He's like, yo, he smoked this crack with me.
He's like, all right, fuck it.
And they do it.
That's what it's like.
Bro, I've seen my dad.
I remember one of my, well, my dad was 18. And now he claims that since then, he hasn't smoked crack.
Okay.
But I know he's definitely had some good, some good years where he's been, he was clean, is clean.
I don't fucking know, whatever.
I still got to text this motherfucker back.
I got him on Red.
This nigga mad.
Is it weird not to communicate with him much?
Let's see what he's, let's see what's the last thing he said.
Is it, I mean, do you really feel like a connection to him, or do you have to create a connection with him?
Whoa.
This motherfucker just sent me the craziest picture of my that's all his family?
I think so.
He sent this to me with no fucking context.
Yeah, that's it.
Whoa.
What the fuck?
Anyway, oh my God.
Is your grandfather?
No, I think that's my fucking dad right there.
That really light-skinned motherfucker.
Light-skinned looking motherfucker right there.
At the top?
Yeah, lashed out with the afro.
Let me see that shit.
Dang, dude.
That guy looks like a wolf on the bottom.
Right.
He does.
Wow, dude, that's crazy.
Let me tell.
I'm going to text him right now and be like, what the fuck picture is this?
Dude, who is this?
It looks like the Jackson 7s.
Yeah, so.
That's crazy.
Dude, I wish half my family was fucking black, dog.
It's dope.
It's a vibe.
I really love it.
Yeah, because it would seem like, man, culture is going on in here.
Yeah.
Culturally, it's really cool, man.
It's like, I love, I love being black.
I'm going to be real.
Dude, I remember we go to black funerals, dog.
God.
It was just fucking jumping.
It sucks and it's hard.
And afterward, everybody's turning the fuck up.
Fuck hugging some big black.
I don't even fucking know her, brother.
It's crying into her tits.
Oh, my God.
Wait, what black funeral were you at?
Just when I was growing up, a lot of people would die in our area and they were black.
And so we go to the funerals and it was just sad, you know, like some kid shot himself in the head.
Oh, that's deep.
I hope it was, you know, I'm assuming closed casket.
Yeah, I'm pretty sure.
I don't remember.
I mean, I'm sure it was.
I don't think at that age I went up there.
That'd have been wild.
But the other kid, this other kid, died on the bat playing basketball.
What else?
People were dying in our area a decent amount.
Question.
Yeah.
One kid got bit by a bat, I remember, and got some type of encephalitis.
I was a joking.
I swear to God.
A kid got bit by a bat.
Oh, yeah.
Look up a bat disease.
What is it?
What is this?
COVID?
20. No, this was 20. This was bat to human direct.
This went in this fucking roundabout through CNN.
Rabies can spread.
Okay, what?
So he died of rabies?
Bats after minor CNN.
Yeah.
Or whatever they call it.
But how did he not go get checked?
Oh, y'all are in the hood, right?
Well, no, but he was getting checked.
They didn't have fucking, you weren't getting checked then.
There weren't, yeah.
People would pray over him and somebody would, you know.
Oh, my God.
Don't get me fucking started on that shit.
My mom, she was so like insane religious, like she's so hypocritical.
She's like, don't you take the Lord's name in vain, goddammit, motherfucker.
Like, that's my mom, bro.
I love your reactions.
But yeah, no, it's a, it was, it was a weird thing to say.
Do you miss the anarchy of that kind of stuff?
Of course not.
No, I'm not fucking sick.
You know, like sick people miss that shit.
And I was.
And I had to break that cycle.
Like, bro, there's times when my phone, like, my phone's in another room and I'm just sitting somewhere and I'm alone.
Like, I'm talking to my wife.
I'm hanging with my baby.
I'm, I'm on a call.
I'm on this.
I'm on that.
And then everything stops.
And I'm like.
Because I'm, and I have to tell myself, I grew up in such chaos that I find peace boring.
That's fucked up.
Like, that's deep.
And I had to learn that.
So when I think about like women, I would date and there would be like drama.
And, you know, she's like, what the fuck?
You don't know me?
Like, what do you think?
All this shit.
And I'm like, yes, bitch.
Like, I'm so used to that.
Cause my mom, like, man, I remember my mom threw this fucking crazy ass.
Like, it was like a metal container for pens and it sliced my stepdad's fucking skull open and his brains.
And it was like the craziest shit.
And then she got locked up.
And then I was living with him, but he wouldn't let me leave.
And it was like the craziest shit.
And then, oh man, he had like desert eagles.
He'd be shooting at the cops and he fucking would take me on as Harley Davidson.
It's the craziest shit.
But between that and like fights and arguments, I mean, we had these fucking weirdos that were like the Manson family that like stayed with us.
And then they ended up killing their baby.
And it was just like the wildest shit.
So as I got older, you know, when I'm meeting like, hey, my name's Samantha.
My parents are in law.
And I'm like, bitch, you're too boring for me.
I need some.
I need you to stab me, bitch.
Beat me up.
Like, you know what I mean?
Like, get a fucking sword out of your car.
Like, that's what I felt I needed.
And then I had to break that cycle and realize, like, no, like, that's just because that's how you grew up.
But most people don't realize that.
Like, my sister, I won't say which one.
She's going to be mad as fuck.
I'm talking to my sister one day and she's like, she's like, yeah.
She's like, yeah, Bob, I'm seeing this guy.
I think he's the one.
I'm like, oh, word, for real.
You know, she got like a bunch of kids, all different baby daddies.
And I'm like, okay.
So you're the one?
She's like, yeah, he treats me so good.
I love him.
Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
And I'm like, that's dope.
How'd y'all meet?
She's like, well, actually, I've known him since I was like 15. I'm like, damn, man, he sounds like a good dude.
He's treating you good.
She's like, yeah.
I'm like, what does he do?
She's like, what?
I'm like, what does he do for a living?
What does he do?
Oh, you know, he's missing the bitch, what?
Speak up.
What does he do?
She's like, oh, you know, he's just in life for prison for murder.
I'm like, bitch, what?
Like, for real, bro.
For real.
I'm like, you, wait, hold up.
You found the one?
She's like, yeah, we're going to get married.
He treats me so good.
I'm like, what the fuck is wrong with you?
Go to Starbucks, man.
Why don't you get you a good man?
And you know what she says to me?
She goes, I just love thug niggas.
Damn, bro.
And I'm like, girl, I love you with all my heart, but you got to figure this shit out.
Am I right?
Bruh.
And I'm like, damn, that's so deep.
And she about, yeah, it's crazy.
I love her, though.
She's, I mean, sometimes you want to love something that can't love you, you know?
If it's a, you know, I think if sometimes thugs, no matter what, I mean, no matter who they are, I wonder if they have a tough time loving people, you know?
Like, I wonder if that's what she means by that.
Yeah, but also women will be like.
Yeah, they want to murder her, bro.
I'm telling you, women want to be fucking murdered, dog.
And any woman that says she don't, man, I think she's on, she's On one, I just never understand.
They love all the murder shows, you know.
Oh, look at Tiffany, got hacked up, and they'll be texting their friend, oh, that bitch, you know, like, damn, bro, fucking RIP, dog.
Tiffany ain't even cold, and y'all jealous because her husband worked for Cutco or whatever.
Oh, my God.
But it's crazy.
People, they want that.
They want a commitment from man, even if it's fucking.
Yeah, but they also want to like, why, why bitches be wanting to change a man?
Can we just talk about that?
A bitch want to change a man and she, she do it.
You know, he'd be like, he'd be like, whatever.
And she's like, she could take a motherfucker and just change this about him.
And she's like, if you want to be with me, you got to change this other thing too.
He's like, all right, girl.
And he's trying to better himself.
And she's like, are you going to have to change that too?
And then a year goes by, he's a fucking brand new man.
And she's like, it's over.
He's like, what, bitch?
She's like, you changed.
Am I right?
No.
She's like, why you got a top hat on?
Looking like Mr. Peanut.
Yeah, you fucking bought it from me.
Oh, man.
How did you know when you met your wife that that was it, man?
Was that hard?
Was that a weird thing?
It was definitely hard.
You know what I'm saying?
My shit was.
Because you were, I'm sure you were easy to date.
Oh, I thought we were talking about my dick.
Anyway.
Truth be told.
Yeah.
How did you know like this is the one?
I found my wife.
I walked in to a store three days after I got separated from my previous wife.
And I saw this girl.
And I thought she was like 24 or something.
I was 28 at the time.
She was 19. I didn't know this.
That's fine.
And yeah, and we had a, she worked at a smoothie shop.
Oh, God.
I fucking love that.
Bro, and she was grinding.
She's busting her ass.
She's in college.
She's doing all this other shit.
And yeah, man, she was really just super duper sweet.
And I went back to the same smoothie shop every day for two weeks and she wasn't there.
Oh.
And I was like writing music about her like a fucking creep.
And I was like, I just like was so inspired.
Like, I don't know.
She was just so beautiful.
She was breathtaking.
So I go back every day in the morning and in the night in case which shift, I don't know.
And then I go and I'm like befriending like all the oh, and there's a bunch of bad bitches that work there and they all think I'm coming to see them.
And I'm like, I'm not coming to see y'all.
It's like for real.
And then like, yo, it's crazy.
Like, and I remember the manager was this gay dude and he was leaving.
Oh, now he trying to smash.
I bought him some chocolates because he was leaving.
Oh, I'm sure.
So I was like, I was just like, I'm going to be the nicest motherfucker.
I mean, I am a nice guy.
But I was like, I'm going to be extra.
So she's hearing about me.
And she was.
And everybody thought I was there to see like a different bitch, but like, she didn't know.
And then she finally, bro, two weeks go by and I was like, all right, I'm giving up.
I go there one night and she wasn't there.
And I was like, I got to take a piss.
So I go take a piss.
I walk out and I go to pay for my shit.
And I just hear, hey, Bobby.
And I turn around and it was this fucking angel.
And I was like, oh my God, this is it.
And my heart was just beating out of my chest like, bro, like fucking crazy.
For real.
And it's like, man, I'd gone through a lot, man.
And I just fucking, I'm getting publicly divorced and just all this crazy shit.
And it's just so difficult.
And here's this like angel.
And so I'm talking to her and she's so fucking.
Did you have a visor on?
A what?
Like a smoothie, like some of a smoothie place that makes a visor, yeah.
Fuck no.
She was looking bad as shit.
Had her hair all parted.
She wasn't looking stupid.
Oh, yeah.
And then she's in fucking leggings and just and I was like, oh my God, I'm talking to her.
And then she's just so sweet.
And she's just talking to me.
I'm telling her about things I have going on.
She's like, that's so cool.
You know, sometimes me and my boyfriend.
No.
And I was like, what?
Fuck, bro.
Sounds like a piece of shit.
Yo, literally, I was like, yo, this fucking sucks, man.
What the fuck?
You got a boyfriend?
But I didn't say it like that.
I was like, oh, I was like, no way.
That's so tight.
Like, what's his name?
What's his fucking name, bitch?
You better tell me his fucking name right now.
I can't even hear his name.
Oh, I don't know.
Yeah, it's a whole thing.
she says this shit and then oh Bradley I come back like a week or no, a couple days later.
And I see her again.
And what happened?
And I was just like, I was just talking to her.
I was like, telling her about all these cool new things happening in my life.
Oh, yeah, definitely.
And I was just like, man, like, we should be friends.
And she's like, no, no.
She was like, yeah, for sure.
And I had this whole, you don't understand.
Like, I'm not joking.
I like rehearsed for 48 hours the whole conversation, how it was going to go, how I was going to get her number.
Oh, my God.
And then played the long waiting game because she was worth it.
You know, like, I was like, okay, I'm going to, we're going to wait.
We're going to figure this out.
So I had this whole thing and I was like, we should be friends.
And then I start to do my spiel.
She's like, yeah, I could just give you my number.
And I was like, oh my God, I didn't even have to do.
I didn't have to do anything.
So I'm like, okay, cool.
So I get her number.
And when did you text her, dude?
I fucking texted her that night.
What?
I don't give a fuck.
You're going to fuck it up.
I put my dick on the table, bro.
I'm not scared of shit.
You be you 100% and they're either going to accept you and love you for who you are or they're fucking not.
They're not.
And that's what I'm saying.
No, that's a real, I mean, they're not for you, maybe.
I have, you got to be yourself, bro.
Like, be you in a fucking relationship.
That's why it's so bullshit when two people get together on a fucking date and they're not, they're lying.
They're being them best.
Like, I'll be on the first date.
I'll be like, damn, bitch, I just ripped ass in the bathroom.
Wow.
I'm like, that's who I am.
I'm like, me and my wife on our first date, I was like, I'm not in a weird way.
I was just like, do you want children one day?
She was like, yeah.
I was like, oh, dope.
Do you see yourself getting married?
I'm like, what's up?
You super religious?
She's like, no, I believe in something, like an energy or something in the universe.
I'm like, okay, cool.
I asked those important questions because most people don't.
And then five years fucking later, they're getting divorced because they never talked about them in the first place.
So anyway, I get enough.
Fucking rubbing a gemstone on her vulva.
But yeah, they get weird like that.
So, dude, so you knew, and how long after that did you get engaged?
Well, the crazy thing is, super duper long story short, I created this like fake release party for a mixtape called Bobby Tarantino 2 that just so happened to be on St. Patrick's Day, but it was really basically the Great Gatsby.
Are you familiar with the Great Gatsby?
So I created this whole party just to invite this boy with all her friends.
And then she ends up bringing her boyfriend.
No.
Yeah, it was crazy.
So she brings her boyfriend and the dude comes in and he's like, oh, Roger, can I have a picture with you?
And immediately I was like, I was like Swedish.
Is that Swedish?
Did I just do Sweden?
I think so.
No, Sweden's like this, yeah.
Or is that more German?
I don't know.
I'm not good with fucking...
I don't sound dragged.
When I do Irish, it sound kind of Jamaican at the same time when I do Irishman.
Yeah.
Anyway, fucking whatever, bro.
Love it.
Long story short, she didn't stay with that guy.
Wow.
When did it take?
And were you low-key flirting with her or what was happening?
I flirted with her, but she never flirted back.
Wow, that was beautiful.
Yeah, because I was like, bitch, I want to take you on a private helicopter to San Diego.
At the party, I'm like playing, I'm playing pool.
What you mean, murderer?
That's gangsta.
Yeah, you're right, my bad.
I wasn't like, yo, you want to go see my fucking rathead collection?
Oh, fuck.
What you mean, murderer?
Hey, bitch, you want to go to private jet?
What the fuck?
You're right, my bad, my bad.
All right, anyway.
You're right, you're right, you're right.
But yeah, I was definitely flirting with her a little bit, but I was respectful.
I wasn't like, fuck this dweeb, da-da-da-da.
Like, it wasn't like right, right.
And then she just, like, I, they just.
That happened.
She just saw a man.
I'm going to be real.
She was dating.
She was dating a boy.
They fucking went to high school together and shit.
And then she saw a man and was like, what's good?
And that's a real thing.
It's like, whatever.
Eight months later, we were engaged.
She was, she got, I knocked her up in like May.
We were in Tokyo.
Oh, yeah.
When I bought that cultural appropriation kimono.
And I knocked her up.
We had a really bad fight.
And then, yeah, it was like so bad.
It was like the worst fight we've ever really had.
And then I shut that shit down.
I was like, this is fucking stupid.
We don't need to be doing this shit.
We need to respect each other.
And if we feel, don't let animosity build.
Don't this, don't that.
But I told her that the real thing is she was pissed off because we were at some fucking club in Japan.
Everybody's wasted.
And the woman who led us through the door, I was just like, oh, there's a pretty dress.
Because I'm just, I'm a gentleman.
Like, if I see a woman and that's just from being raised around women, like, oh, nice earrings.
Like, and my wife knows me.
She gets it.
But you don't think you'd low-key do it for some sort of a return?
No, never, never, no, no.
Especially with women.
Because for me, women doesn't matter.
Like, she could be bad.
She could be not what you would call, you know, a bad bitch.
Like, you know what I mean?
Or whatever.
Just normal looking, whatever the fuck.
I don't know.
Like bread.
Let's keep it 100.
The bitch could be ugly or she could be fucking a supermodel.
Okay.
And I will be like, oh, I love your shoes.
Or I'll be like, oh, I'll be like, what do you mean?
Like your hat?
Yeah, your nails.
Are they gel?
Is it gel?
Is it acrylic?
Like, I don't give a shit.
I just like it.
Like your arms.
Yeah, whatever.
Anyway, so she just got mad that I said the bitch had a nice dress.
Oh, yeah.
Women will get upset about that.
And I was like, don't you ever bring that shit to me ever fucking again.
Because I was like, I would never fucking do that to you.
I don't give a fuck.
Like, it's just not whatever.
And it was so stupid.
And we argued and I knocked her up.
Yeah.
And then we got married a couple months later.
Yeah, I fucking showed her.
Dude, if I'm arguing with somebody, you gotta fucking knock them up.
That's how most of us got in the world when you think about that.
Yeah, I mean, look at my parents.
Oh, yeah.
They were high and on crack and angry and screaming.
So you want kids?
Well, they made a good creation, man.
Do you want children?
I do want some children, you know, and I start to get to the point where it's like, yeah, I definitely want to have some children.
But also, you can't hurry love, man.
You got, you know, I like this girl and it didn't work out.
And then I was in this other relationship and I couldn't commit.
And so I just got a.
What if you got like the female equivalent of a sperm donor?
What is it?
I don't fucking know, a surrogate or some chick you could just knock up and be like, here, take my sperm.
And you just, you select.
Because women, they do this.
They'll select.
They'll be like, okay, he's got to be chocolate 6'8 fucking NBA player.
That this, that, whatever.
And you can like pick what you want.
And then that woman could have a child herself.
So you could do the same thing.
You just get like some super bad, gorgeous woman.
And what do you have to do?
Do you do sex with them or do you have to drive over there?
Definitely not.
It's a little more professional than that.
You know what I mean?
That would be like the most expensive, craziest escort of all time.
It's like $100,000, I think, to do something like that.
To do what?
To get somebody to have your child that you don't know.
Really?
In America, yeah.
Wow.
It's like 80 in Mexico, I think.
But you got to go down there.
That's going to cost you a couple G. I wouldn't sweat it because you're already, you're still, you still have like 30 years on when your dad made you.
So you got time.
You know what I mean?
Like, you got it.
My dad was 38 when my mother was born.
Yeah, but that's...
Not even that it was different times.
It's just like, bro, who gives a shit?
Wasn't somebody, they were upset with Billie Eilish and the guy from the neighborhood.
I don't know if you heard about this.
So Billie Eilish, you know, she's younger.
They're like 12 years difference.
Yeah, but so what?
She's fucking of age.
She can make her own decisions and we don't know what the fuck.
We're not in on their text message.
They could be fucking in love and happy.
Who are we to say?
Now, I'd be different if like she was 17 or, you know, he was like, I can't wait to knock the socks off that.
Yeah.
That'd be a little weird.
He's like, let me get that kiddie cooter.
Oh, no.
Don't say that.
If he's texting that kind of shit, then you got to go to jail.
Will you guys have any more children, do you think?
Or what do you think?
My wife is currently pregnant with our.
Oh, you got back in there?
Yeah, with my second son.
What?
We're going to name him Leo.
Really?
Yeah, we're going to name him Leo because my best friend.
So here's, here's actually, super quick, the first thing I ever said to my wife was nice tattoo.
And she had a tattoo here that spelled Noel with two L's.
And she says, oh, it's in my grandmother's handwriting.
It's her middle name.
And I was like, holy shit.
And both sets of her grandparents are in their high 80s, living alone, killing it.
Probably still fucking.
It's like, they're killing it.
Yeah, they're amazing.
And so I actually got her mother's name, middle name, Grace, tattooed on me in her grandmother's name, which is really cool.
But I say this to say that since her middle name is her grandmother's name, she wanted the second boy's middle name to be her father's name, middle name.
So Kurt David is my father-in-law.
So our boy's name will be Leon David Hall.
But Leon David is my best friend's name, Leon David Rasalam, who fucking let me sleep in his basement when I was homeless, didn't have anywhere to go.
And almost a year to the day, I signed a Def Jam and we all moved to LA.
So I named him after my best friend, Leon David.
And it's cool because he's after my best friend who also has the same middle name as my father-in-law.
And yeah, we call him Leo.
It's a perfect circle.
Liam?
Leo.
Leo is a good name.
Yeah.
I like it.
Ladykiller Leo.
You know what I mean?
Yeah, it sounds like it.
I mean, he's got to probably be handsome.
I mean, you seem pretty handsome and your wife looks attractive.
I saw her on.
I seem handsome.
Am I handsome or do I seem handsome?
I think you seem handsome.
That's as far as I'm going to go, dude.
I think you're handsome.
Plus, times get tough.
You're a handsome guy.
And you got great skin.
You're handsome.
Thanks, dude.
You got great skin.
Yeah, I'm just getting older, though.
That's the only thing.
What is the fuck you're talking about?
You got great skin.
Time comes and gets you.
Look at your hair.
Look at you.
What are you talking about?
You look good.
You look great.
Oh, dude, I look like a homeless stuffed and a non-homeless guy.
One thing that's interesting about you, I think you're, I think, I love what you're doing, man.
I love the fact that you're kind of like, you're not pivoting from music, but you're adding to your ability to perform with also people saying more of your personality.
100%.
Which I think is interesting, you know, especially coming from your own life and all the experiences you've had.
I think some people, they only have what their music is, but you, there's so much.
I mean, it's fucked there's a lot to fucking unpack there.
I mean, there's so many sentences you said during this chat that I could be like, what about this?
What about this?
So I think there's going to be a lot of like just breadth of like, not only knowledge, but just like sharing of experiences that you've had or being able to relate to people.
It's probably going to be a big part of your future, you know?
So I think it's cool, man, that people are getting to know you more and that you're allowing that to happen because I think there's probably a need for that in the world, you know, because a lot of people don't have the experience that you've had, you know?
Yeah, man, I just, I, I just, I kind of see this as the second chapter of my career, you know, or second act, if you will, of my career.
And yeah, the music is so therapeutic.
I'll always do it.
I love it.
It's like, it's so easy for me to do it.
You know, I was on vacation a couple of weeks ago and I made 37 beats in a day.
Damn.
On vacation.
I woke up, it was just in bed and then played with my son and then put him down for a nap and finished my 37 for the day.
Like, I don't know.
I just love it and it's amazing.
But this shit, I live on this because like I used to really be so jealous of comedians because I'm like, these fucking assholes, especially the greats.
Oh, yeah.
They go out on stage themselves and all they need is a fucking microphone.
I got to go out there.
I got to have fucking lasers and big screens and kids on Molly in the back and everyone's like, oh my God.
And that's why all my, when I go, when I do go out on tour, because I'm definitely touring for this, I'm stripping it down.
I've been in arenas for like fucking six years.
I don't want to fucking do arenas.
I want to do theaters, three to seven thousand cap fucking theaters, simple backdrop, the shittiest lighting show.
And it's going to be about me as a fucking MC doing my thing.
But what I'm saying is here, this, being me is the best thing I know how to do in B. So even when I do rap, there's still some personification of like, yeah, but I'm like logic, the rapper, this is the side of me that's rapping or the side of me that's got to be super like here, I can just be, I can be me.
I can be funny.
We can talk.
We can like do, I can literally do this all fucking day.
The fact that's letting me know that this is where my future is going, especially on YouTube and social media.
And I'm making a serious, serious investment.
So for all my fans who are watching, let me just tell y'all, y'all are spending fucking a fuck ton of money to do the YouTube and the green screen videos and the trap and all this other stuff.
It's cool, man.
I love it.
I went to your channel, man.
I watched a few videos and I liked it.
I was like, oh, I just feel like I'm getting to know him.
It's engaging.
It's different from the, you know, his history as a musician.
And also, I think it's like, you know, when you grow up in a place with a lot of chaos and a lot of like trying to kind of trauma, which is a buzzword that people use these days.
But when you grow up in that environment, you don't really get a chance to settle down sometimes till you're, you're almost a late bloomer in some ways in life, where you don't get a chance to kind of, you know, it takes a time for things to settle.
It's like Michael Jackson.
Imagine how Justin Bieber must feel.
It's a real thing.
Like for kids who never like really got to have a childhood, you know what I mean?
And had a childhood in front of the whole world.
Like, bro, think about some shit that you've done or said that you wouldn't even want to say publicly, like that would totally get you canceled because you were just a normal human being who maybe said a wrong joke or this or that.
Like as a kid, like as kids, like we all say and do dumb shit.
I don't give a fuck who you are.
We're humans.
Well, there's two blackface kids, dude.
Exactly.
But that's what I mean.
It's like, we've all done something.
That kid's two years old.
He's fucked.
He's canceled.
He's canceled.
He's two.
You're canceled.
They blurred his fucking face out.
People, you think 20 years from now, people are going to be like, are you little Eddie?
Is this you?
Like, what the fuck?
I think it's really funny, though, how it's like a whole, not bit, I almost said bit.
We did the bit, but it's like a whole thing on blackface, but they don't show the blackface.
I know.
Like, why would you blur it out?
It's almost like Asian porn.
Yeah.
Where you blur, it's like, what's the point?
Oh, they blur out the faces?
Yeah.
Oh, I haven't seen that.
I mean, I guess maybe it's like because that's somebody's child.
I don't know.
But it's just almost like, hey, here's a write-up on this thing.
And then you go because you want to see it, but you can't see it.
How are you going to see blackface when the face is blurred?
Well, I mean, it's like, and also, like, at least if the kids are going to do it, let them fucking do it.
Or is that the right take or not?
Maybe not.
So what I'm trying to say is-Yeah, well, look, dude- One of them was a cop and one of them was a fucking construction worker.
What do you mean one of them?
What does that mean?
I'm just saying one of them.
What?
No.
Dude, congrats on the new album.
It comes out March.
March.
No, February 24th.
It's called College Park.
Okay.
Yeah.
It comes out February 24th.
It's called College Park.
Thanks so much, dude.
Yeah, I'd love to chat again sometime.
Yeah, for sure.
It'd be cool, you know, come by every once in a while.
And I want to make my rounds, too, man.
Any homies or different people that you know that you think it'd be fun to fuck with?
It's Tiger Belly.
Have you been on there?
Oh, yeah.
I want to do it all, man.
So, like, let me know.
You know, I want to fuck with whoever.
I'll take it some great ones, man.
All right.
Yo, make sure you check out Troy Bond.
I'm telling you, man, the kid, he's really special.
You know, it's almost like when I first fucking met Pete Davidson, we used to hang all the time.
And I just, I was like, oh, yeah, this dude's out of here.
Really?
It's that feeling.
Yeah.
It just felt like he had just like a unique energy.
Yeah.
And he does.
And he's so, he's, I mean, like he says, he looks like a Puerto Rican lesbian.
Like, it's hilarious.
Yeah.
Yeah.
A lot of people thought he was Brittany Griner.
Remember a couple months ago?
There was a lot of, you bring that up, honestly, Pete Davis and Brittany Griner.
Dude, Brittany Griner was at the, I went to the golf this past weekend.
I was in Phoenix.
Brittany Griner was there.
I had a chance to meet her, and I had to do something for a buddy.
Dude, I would have loved to be like, yo, what's that like?
Wait, this is a real thing?
Okay, yeah, this is happening.
It's a doppelgate.
Oh, it's totally in that one right there, though.
Yeah, a lot of people thought that that was Pete Davidson when they traded for Russia or whatever.
Dude, here's a crazy thing that I heard from some like, I was at like a party and they had some Israeli guys there and they said that they, the reason Brittany Griner got busted or got, she was over there.
There's like a Russian czar or whatever that pays women to come play basketball topless over there.
And that's what she was doing over there in the first place.
Because people, no one asked, like, what was she even doing in Russia in the first place?
I don't know if that's true, but it was real interesting.
But she just got a haircut.
I almost got to meet her at the golf tournament.
You have a favorite football team?
I fucking hate sports.
I'm trying to get into it.
I just, I was like, fuck it, man.
It's not that I hate it.
It's just like, I've just fucking never, I mean, I love skateboarding.
You know what I mean?
That's a sport.
Yeah, I used to do that shit till I was like 20 years old.
Really?
I was obsessed.
Yeah.
I'm actually going to have dinner with Paul Rodriguez tonight.
One of the greatest skateboarders of fucking all time.
Yeah.
Actually, I was doing this interview with this cat named Vic Blenz.
Yeah, dude, I see him.
I follow him on TikTok.
Yeah, he's super dope.
And I did an interview with him, and I won't give that away, but it was really special.
And anyway, I ended up meeting Paul Rodriguez.
So that's all.
Dude, well, it sounds like you have a lot of new stuff going on in your life, man.
Thanks for coming in and sharing it with us, man.
Thanks for being so cool.
And, you know, I'm glad that you're sober.
Thanks, man.
Yeah.
Yeah, I feel pretty good about it.
It's a little bit.
Yeah, I feel like it's the only way I can do things now, kind of.
What do you mean?
I don't know if I was fucked up, if I'd be able to do anything.
Well, I mean, were you fucked up?
I mean, look at you.
No, but it's just always the fear of being that I don't know if I go out what tomorrow, what it could be like tomorrow.
I don't want to risk that I'm not going to be able to be here with you.
I love how honest you are, man.
And that's how I feel.
Honesty is, obviously, I know we should be wrapping up here, but I just want to say, like, how long had you done hard drugs?
I think if somebody had something, I would do it.
So I didn't go around a lot of people that had it, but if somebody had a little something on it, I would do it, you know?
I met a dude at a laundromat one time and did some damn LSD, dude.
Left all my fucking clothes in there and fucking left.
What's your drug of choice?
Probably cocaine.
Yeah.
I would say cocaine.
What does it feel like?
If I had to guess, I would say cocaine.
What's it like?
Let me think.
I like cocaine because it makes me feel exactly how I want to immediately.
Like having a beer, it's like, hey, I got to talk to Patrick or Ricky.
You know what I'm saying?
If I have cocaine, dude, I get to go home, fucking hold on to my fucking wiener and be scared.
And wait, what?
Yeah, that's what you do, dude, if you do a bunch of cocaine at your house.
You hold on to your fucking wiener and you be scared.
And then you hope that you'll live, but you don't know if you will.
Are you fucking serious?
Yeah.
And what?
Do you like that feeling?
Do you like it?
I think there's a part of me that relates to that feeling so much.
Oh, yeah, but that just sounds like desperation.
And all that sounds like fucking childhood trauma.
Yeah.
Agreed.
I think it just, it just attaches to that old shit.
I couldn't imagine you on cocaine.
So like, have you, how many times, have you ever been on cocaine while you were doing the show?
No, no, no, no, no, no.
I couldn't, but I couldn't imagine.
You're already so like.
I'd be so scared.
You're super chill.
Like, this is what's crazy.
It's like, you're chill, but animated at the same time.
And I feel like if you were on cocaine, like you would explode.
Oh, I would be looking at porn on my phone.
Oh, my God.
And I'd be pretending I wasn't.
That'd be the tough part.
I would drive and do cocaine and be looking at like, escort.
It was just all just tragic.
And I think I didn't like, but I think I liked cocaine because it's like, I want to feel, I don't want there to be any ambiguity about how I want to feel.
I want to feel how I want to feel right now.
Yeah, but you're talking about grabbing your wiener and freaking out.
Are you serious?
I mean, I'm 100% serious.
What do you like about it, though, the feeling?
Like, what feel?
'Cause I'm just curious, what does it get?
It gave you an excuse to grab your wiener.
Bro, shut the fuck up.
What are you talking about?
That's what I'm telling you, man.
No, you do blow, right?
That's how I imagine it.
It's like, all right, you're fucking, you're in the Hollywood Hills.
You got six bitches with you.
You know what I'm talking about?
You're fucking driving in a drop-top coop and you fucking duel mine and you fucking feel invisible.
That's what I think cocaine is.
You're describing it as like, oh, shit.
That does not sound fun.
That does not sound fucking fun at all, man.
I'm definitely never doing cocaine now.
Shit.
Thank you.
All right.
Good interview.
Fuck.
Yeah.
I'm just feeling on the breeze.
And I feel like these bees I must be calling.
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