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Sept. 6, 2021 - This Past Weekend - Theo Von

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Jay Cutler

Jay Cutler is a former NFL quarterback for the Denver Broncos and Chicago Bears. Theo talks with Jay about branching into the podcast community, what his NFL teammates were really like in the locker room, and gives encouraging words for a young kid’s first football season. Uncut with Jay Cutler: YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCzO91i-LxXgh_FKku4zhZJg Audio - https://www.podcastone.com/pd/Uncut-with-Jay-Cutler New Merch: http://theovonstore.com New Tour Dates! https://theovon.com/tour Podcastville mugs and digital prints available now at https://theovon.pixels.com Music: "Baptise Me" - Robert Randolph and the Family Band https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bdhbxh4bQtw Support our Sponsors: Manscaped: https://manscaped.com/theo for 20% OFF & FREE Shipping Upstart: https://upstart.com/Theo for a fast and easy way to pay off debt Babbel: https://Babbel.com use promo code THEO Freshly: https://freshly.com/theo Grey Block Pizza: https://www.greyblockpizza.com Liquid Death: https://liquiddeath.com Submit your funny videos, TikToks, questions and topics you'd like to hear on the podcast to tpwproducer@gmail.com. Hit the Hotline 985-664-9503 Video Hotline for Theo Upload here: http://bit.ly/TPW_VideoHotline Find Theo: Website: https://theovon.com Instagram: https://instagram.com/theovon Facebook: https://facebook.com/theovon Facebook Group: https://facebook.com/groups/thispastweekend Twitter: https://twitter.com/theovon YouTube: https://youtube.com/theovon Clips Channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCiEK See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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	Today's episode is brought to you by Liquid Death.
	Today's guest is a unique man.
	He's had a lifestyle, an experience that not many get to have.
	He's led a rare path.
	He is celebrated and discussed.
	Ad nauseum, you might say.
	I think that means getting sick.
	I don't know what that means exactly, but we're happy to have him here today.
	He's a retired NFL quarterback and the host of Uncut with Jay Cutler.
	It is the man himself, Mr. Jay Cutler.
	I set that parking brake and left myself on my arm.
	Shine that light on me.
	I'll sit and tell you my stories.
	Shine on me.
	And I will find a song I've been singing just for you.
	I'll see you next time.
	We're grateful you're coming in.
	I know you got a podcast starting up.
	We have a lot of podcast listeners over the years with this podcast and a different podcast.
	So I know you went on Nate the other day.
	It's pretty cool.
	Because Nate's a big Nate's a big fan.
	He's a big Vanderbilt fan.
	Huge Vandy fan.
	Yeah.
	From here, grew up here.
	And he's in there.
	He's funny as hell, too.
	He means it.
	Oh, yeah.
	Yeah.
	Nate Bargatzi, he's really that he's a real more of a scientist of like humor, I feel like he's like, it's calculated almost.
	Like he sets it up.
	He's got his whole thing.
	And whenever he walked in, you don't really know.
	Like I just started doing this podcast stuff.
	So you don't really know how it's going to go with somebody you don't know.
	Like doing something with somebody you know, you're like, all right, I've got this down.
	I got this figured out.
	But when he walked in, I was like, shit, this might not go well.
	Really?
	Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
	Because, you know, he was, you know, not a lot of emotion, just kind of just sat down.
	He's like, I was like, oh, boy.
	He's real passive.
	Yeah, he's a calm guy.
	I'm trying to feel, it almost sometimes feels with Nate like I'm getting in trouble for something in the beginning.
	But then once you kind of get to know that he's just, it's just kind of some of his demeanor.
	Exactly.
	He's real smart.
	He's a real smart guy, man.
	Yeah, what else going on?
	Not much dude.
	I had a freaking bad dream last night.
	Do you ever have those dreams?
	Like, I just get shocked sometimes, like even as an adult, that I'll have these dreams where I'll like wake up and I'm like, what's your hard?
	You know, I'll be like drooling.
	I'll be like, what?
	You know what I'm talking about?
	I do know what you're talking about.
	I don't feel like I dream that much anymore.
	I don't know what that says about me.
	It might not be a good thing.
	Yeah.
	Or it might be a good thing.
	You might have to get your chakras worked on or something, man.
	I have a couple of Indian buddies and they're always like, dude, your chakras are bad.
	And I'm like, how do you fix that?
	That's what I, you know, I try to get into it with them.
	And it's like, I would love to get my chakras fixed.
	Yeah.
	Oh, dude, that would be a good show of something Jay Cutlers gets his chakras fixed.
	That's a good show.
	That's a great idea.
	I need to write this down.
	I need to look into this.
	You may need a construction worker, though, dude.
	I might need like five of these guys in here.
	One guy's not going to fix me.
	Yeah, you may need a little bit of work, man.
	Yeah, I'm trying to think.
	So you got the new podcast.
	What is this?
	This is called Liquid Death.
	This is a water company.
	From the Austrian Alps?
	Yeah, it almost sounds a little, I don't want to say Nazi water, but it's definitely, it sounds like on the can.
	I don't know who's.
	Stone Cold Mountain Water came straight from the Alps to murder your thirst.
	You've got like cool sponsors.
	This stuff's good, man.
	They've been good to us.
	Pretty good.
	They mail us a lot of water, man.
	Well, that's nice.
	I'll send you a couple cases.
	I know you don't need it.
	I know you're doing well.
	Yeah.
	But we'll throw a couple cases to you.
	Yeah, maybe I'll just put it on my podcast and just be like, hey, I'm just doing this.
	Oh, I bet they'd probably get on board.
	Yeah.
	You know?
	I mean, the amount of weird ad sponsor requests is mind-boggling to me.
	What did you have to read?
	I didn't see your ads yet on your first on your podcast.
	We did a, I should know this.
	I really should.
	It's okay if you don't.
	I did a like a helicopter.
	Basically a helicopter ambulance.
	Oh, really?
	So if you're hurt somewhere and you can't get to a hospital, you pay $149 a year.
	No way.
	And this helicopter will come and get you and take you to a hospital.
	Dude, that sounds...
	It sounds very something that would happen to somebody in Mexico.
	I feel like it sounds like a kidnapping or more like a Colombian type of thing.
	I mean, I kind of want to do it.
	Just call them up and see what happens.
	Hey, guys, yeah, I'm having a tough time.
	I sprained my ankle.
	I need a lift.
	I'm out at Lake Radner.
	I got bit by a duck.
	I need to go home.
	I was pretty shocked a few years ago when Uber, like, there was something was going on in the world when Pete, like, was it the Olympics?
	I don't remember what it was.
	But when Uber started having airplanes on their thing.
	Do you remember?
	Yeah, I do remember that.
	And they started doing airplanes, helicopters.
	And I think they were trying to get in the freight business.
	People were getting rich.
	That's when I realized, holy shit, man, people are rich, dude.
	Yeah, if you can just dial up a plane on Uber, 10 grand.
	Yeah.
	No big deal.
	Charge it.
	It starts feeling to me recently, I felt like during the pandemic that there's so many more rich people or that money doesn't mean anything.
	I have these weird thoughts.
	Yeah, I think now, I don't understand how people are functioning.
	I don't feel like anybody works.
	Yeah.
	But everyone's just spending money.
	I don't know if people are in debt and they just don't care or what's happening.
	And everyone's just driving around.
	Yeah.
	Doesn't it feel fictional?
	Yeah, it's like everyone's just cruising around.
	People are out having a great time.
	I'm like, what?
	Yeah.
	People are buying champagne.
	People are buying nice hats.
	People are buying jewelry.
	I mean, there's like 200 people a day that move to this town.
	People are just buying houses left and right.
	And houses are getting expensive, man.
	Even like even a grant, like, you'll see a groundhog, and even he looks like he's got some money.
	You know what I'm saying?
	Like, the land here is getting a little bit.
	Oh, it's absurd.
	It's absurd.
	I mean, I hope people are doing well.
	Yeah.
	I do.
	I hope that in a couple years, like we just fall off the cliff.
	It's like, well, I saw this one coming, guys.
	That's what it.
	I feel like I see it coming, but nothing else.
	It's not kind of making sense maybe to other people.
	I don't know what it is, but yeah, I'm just shocked.
	Like, I have some friends that are pretty rich sometimes, and they say that they'll be like on runways and stuff where everybody has private jets and stuff.
	And they said there's like so many more private jets now.
	They're everywhere.
	But it's also like everyone's doing a podcast.
	Everyone's doing social media.
	Yeah.
	But I mean, people have to be buying.
	People have to be buying Liquid Death.
	Yeah.
	People have to be buying what people are selling on Instagram.
	I don't know.
	I'm confused by the world at this point in my life, I think.
	Yeah, I feel like it gets a little tricky.
	Because you really, Jay Cutler, I mean, you really, you're Jay Cutler, man, and you really had a big, I mean, you've had such a neat experience, dude.
	I always wanted to be like, because you always seem like the tall, kind of like, you know, like, you know what I'm saying, bro.
	I prefer women, but you seem like a tall, decent looking man.
	I'll be honest.
	You know what I'm saying?
	I'll give you at least an eight and a half, dude.
	My kids gave me a seven last night.
	I don't even know how this conversation happened, but they gave me a seven.
	And I was like, are you guys serious?
	I'm a seven?
	And they're like, keep it up.
	We'll make you a six.
	I was like, gosh.
	Kids are dicey, bro.
	They also tell the truth.
	So, I mean, maybe they're right.
	Maybe it is a six.
	Maybe six and a half.
	I mean, I think in this town, I feel like there's almost more competition, I feel like, in some ways in a city like Nashville because there's, I feel like here there's a lot more like kind of manly dudes sometimes.
	Well, I've been living in LA and there it's a lot more.
	Oh, you crush LA, I'm sure.
	Like, you're a dude out there.
	Yeah, out there, chicks.
	You're like, hey, what's going on?
	You know, talk about the squirrels.
	All that ass real low-key shit.
	Like, what can I eat if I'm lost in the woods, you know?
	And I'm like, I'd have a NutriGrain bar, but you know what I'm saying?
	My backpack.
	Nashville's changed.
	Like, you're used to, I mean, you know, early 2000, I've been here since 2000 for the most part.
	So, like, it's completely, the whole demographic has completely changed.
	There was no one here, really.
	It was like a small clique of people.
	You knew everybody.
	Yeah.
	You go down town now and it's like, you don't know anybody at all.
	Yeah, yeah.
	It's really intense down there, too.
	It's too much.
	But is it interesting?
	Like, so you got, so, yeah, I was like, man, I've always wished I could have been like the taller guy.
	You know, a little.
	You're pretty tall.
	How tall are you?
	I'm six foot.
	I'm regular height, I think.
	I think 5'10 is regular.
	What's the average height of humans?
	It's gotta be.
	North American humans, too, please, Sean.
	Male.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Put in male.
	5'9?
	I mean, you're crushing it.
	Yeah, you're right, actually.
	Dang, I didn't know that.
	5'9.
	That's almost surprising.
	CDC, everything they say is 100%.
	Yeah, so this could be...
	That's the crazy thing about the internet and the world right now.
	It's like no information.
	It's like everybody believes so much information, but none of, it's like, I believe less and less because I put out information and people will tell me like, oh man, that's real.
	And I'm like, I don't know.
	No idea.
	Yeah.
	And everyone's got an agenda.
	Like, it depends like who you got it from.
	Like, there's, everyone's spinning something.
	It's just, it's just hard to trust anything.
	Yeah, that's the thing I think.
	So then I go back to my instincts.
	And sometimes my instincts, I feel like, usually have served me pretty good.
	But sometimes it's hard to know.
	Yeah.
	When you look back at like, so now you're not a quarterback now.
	Yeah.
	I mean, you'll always be a quarterback, but you're not doing it like on a day-to-day basis.
	I don't get paid anymore.
	Right.
	You're not getting paid.
	Yeah, I guess maybe that defines it.
	Do you look at and see like, man, what a position I was in?
	Like, is it different to look?
	Like, sometimes I'll look at things in my life and be like, man, I didn't kind of not realize the position I was in, but, you know, like to a regular man looking at a quarterback, you're like, dang, that's a guy.
	You know, that's Odysseus or whatever.
	Yeah, I mean, that's a great point.
	And like looking back on it now, like you get tunnel vision and like you don't, you don't maybe enjoy it or have as much fun or take advantage of it as much as you would would now looking back on it.
	I mean, you're just locked in and you're just doing your job.
	And, you know, it turns, sometimes it's a grind.
	Sometimes it's fun.
	Sometimes it's really hard.
	But looking back on it now, you know, I don't want to say that I wish I would have done things differently, but it was an awesome, awesome experience.
	It was an awesome experience.
	It was an awesome experience.
	Yeah.
	And it shaped a lot of who I am and the people I associate with and how I respond to things.
	And so, I mean, it's, you know, from the time I was fourth grade till, you know, 35, it kind of shaped me.
	Yeah, I just can't, I was trying to think about something in my life that had been that much of like a shit, like a thing that I was like a vehicle in my life.
	And I don't know if I've had that.
	So it just must seem a lot that now you're in like a new career.
	It's like you're trying to find, do you want to find a new career?
	Do you feel like you need to?
	Or are you just kind of like, I don't know, like, what do you think?
	Like, do you feel like a pressure to or do you just.
	Yeah, I mean, because I mean, like, not many people when they're 35 or whatever age, people are done playing football, like, have to go out there in the real world and like figure out, figure out the rest of your life.
	Right.
	So a career, I don't know if that's the right word.
	I think, like, for me, it's more like purpose.
	Like, what, what is going to drive me?
	What gives me purpose in my life going forward?
	And there was pressure when I got out to figure that out.
	And I was never one of those guys that had other businesses or stuff going on when I played.
	It was literally, I was just, I played football.
	Like, I had plan A and there was no backup.
	And so now when I got out, it was just like, all right, I'm, I'm clueless.
	What I'm going to do.
	I have no idea.
	I know the football is over.
	I knew I didn't want to coach.
	I knew I wanted to kind of get out of that world.
	So it was really just trying to figure out: all right, what the hell am I going to wake up and be happy doing?
	Gives me a sense of purpose.
	I like it.
	I like the people I'm working with.
	And that took time, you know, and I'm probably still kind of figuring that one out.
	So when you start, because I was, yeah, I was watching your first episode.
	And it's called Uncut with Jay Cutler, yeah.
	Uncut with Jay Cutler.
	Or something like that.
	Yeah.
	And you're Jay Cutler, dude.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Close enough.
	They'll figure it out.
	Google.
	Yeah, I was like, because it's, because it's interesting, because you're definitely kind of like this, you kind of remind me of a cross between like Christian Leightner and like Sasquatch a little.
	Like you're kind of like this.
	Yeah, and it's, I don't mean it in a negative way.
	No, I love that.
	Okay, cool.
	Yeah, it's like a, yeah, you're kind of like this interesting figure that the media gave a lot of attention to, like weird attention kind of a shit.
	But that's kind of the best, you know, in a way nowadays, that's almost like the best kind of attention you can get out there in a weird way.
	It's like, it's not super real.
	Nobody really knows what's going on.
	Yeah, there's a vagueness there to it.
	And, you know, and it wasn't intentional.
	You know, I think there's just certain aspects of my life that I like keeping private that, you know, I don't really talk about.
	And I'm probably going to try to keep it that way.
	Yeah.
	And I think that, you know, I did a reality show for a little bit after I was done.
	And, you know, I think as soon as you start pulling back and like kind of shielding yourself some, like people really want to get into that and figure that out and know more.
	So I think that kind of played into it.
	But, you know, the podcast, I don't know where that's going to go.
	Yeah.
	But it's kind of cool.
	That's what I noticed in your opening.
	It was like kind of like you weren't trying to be too much, I didn't feel like, or trying to be a certain thing.
	You're kind of like, I don't know where this is going to go.
	No idea.
	You know?
	And that was the hard part about doing it of doing the opening.
	The interviews and stuff is, that's easy.
	But like for me, I was like, I don't know what to say in this opening thing.
	And I don't really want to say too much about me.
	I really don't want to divulge a lot going forward right now.
	So I'm just going to tell every, you know, I don't know what the hell I'm doing.
	We're going to have some fun.
	Maybe it works.
	Maybe it doesn't work.
	Let's just do this and go.
	It's funny, man, because it kind of reminded me, too, when I started podcasting.
	I just started in my kitchen.
	I didn't really know.
	When did you start?
	I started maybe about five years ago, maybe, or four years ago.
	I'd gone on Joe Rogan's podcast a couple times, maybe.
	That's a marathon.
	That's not a podcast.
	Oh, dude.
	It was so hard.
	What do you guys, how?
	Does he have like, does he have like a, like a notebook of stuff?
	No.
	He just, he just goes.
	He's a notebook, man.
	Yeah, he is a notebook.
	He's incredible.
	Oh, dude, he's like a Swiss Army notebook.
	Yeah.
	He, um.
	But I mean, is there an option like to be like after like an hour of like tapping out or like you're just stuck?
	I think you want to, but I think part of the mystique about Joe Rogans is that you go in there and you're like, you know, I want to be able to go toe-to-toe.
	You know what I'm saying?
	He's kind of like this symbol of not necessarily just machismo, but somewhat of machismo for sure.
	So you want to be able to be like, okay, I can do by time.
	Yes.
	And you're just like, dude, and you hit about two hours and you have a cramp that you're trying to deny and you're still trying to like remember.
	Yeah, totally.
	He'll do a bathroom break sometimes.
	I remember at one point I remember saying, hey, man, this is the longest conversation I've ever been in in my entire life.
	For sure.
	And it was.
	And it was like almost scary to think that I'm talking to a man that I've gotten to know better, but I didn't know super great at the time.
	That was scary, man.
	I feel like it's going in there.
	It's kind of scary because then they close the door and the sound kind of gets you guys off.
	It's scary, bro.
	And you almost think he can hear the energy in your head.
	He's just like peering through your brain.
	Like he's got that third ear, yeah, bro.
	Some people got that third eye.
	I feel like Joe has that third ear, man.
	But that really helped kind of get it going.
	I think doing other podcasts, I think podcasts gave a lot of like, I worked in Los Angeles, in Hollywood for a long time, and I never really found some footing in television and stuff.
	I felt like, especially as they started to really move away from regular guys, I'm not even a real redneck guy, but I think they immediately picked it up.
	You're from the South.
	I'm from Louisiana.
	Oh, I got you.
	But I think there just weren't a lot of opportunities.
	And I think that's what podcasting has done.
	It's kind of just given opportunities for regular guys not to have to use like these vehicles of Hollywood.
	Yeah, the agents and all the things.
	And there's so many talented people out there now.
	Yeah.
	And there's so many vehicles, like you're saying now, of people getting their talent out there and letting people know and doing all those things, which I mean, it's a good thing.
	Yeah, it's interesting.
	I mean, it kind of puts the power a lot of in your own hands.
	Absolutely.
	And even I thought about, like, I have friends that get canceled or whatever.
	It only helps.
	These days, it's almost like if you schedule...
	You want to get canceled.
	Yeah, if you schedule your canceling well, dude, you're freaking...
	You're Morgan Wallen and Ernest and Hardy.
	They're going to be on tour for the next 20 years.
	Oh, yeah.
	They're fine.
	They're never going to.
	They're fine.
	Dude, when Morgan's bus leaves town, it will never come back.
	It's just going to keep rolling.
	With or without him, it's going to go the next time.
	With or without him, bro.
	They may need a hologram after a couple snow.
	He's going to have a double here soon.
	He really should, man.
	Just a singing double.
	Just put a hat on and sunglasses and go there and do it.
	That's a really good idea for him, actually.
	I've tried to get canceled on Instagram and stuff.
	I don't know.
	I don't know.
	I think you have to go really bad these days.
	Yeah.
	Which I don't want to do that.
	You know, my friend Eric Andre, he's a comedian, and he had a show that was going on television or a movie, and he just put a completely naked picture of himself.
	Does that get you canceled?
	I feel like that.
	It got his account canceled.
	But it helped him.
	But it helped.
	definitely like yeah nude is I don't know if that's for me.
	I wouldn't do it.
	My hips kind of run right into my stomach.
	Do they?
	Yeah, it's just not.
	Maybe work.
	Maybe work out for a month and just get jacked up and then do it.
	But that's the butt of like a, like a, I kind of have the butt of like a.
	Would you do a frontal or from behind?
	Or a side.
	I can't do a side, bro.
	The way I look from this side is not good.
	You've thought about this a few times.
	I mean, this is the most I've thought about it with another man in the room, you know.
	But I don't know.
	It's a good question.
	Even those Sports Illustrated issues where everybody's like semi-naked in there and like solos hiding their tits behind the frisbee.
	They're like 98% naked.
	Yeah.
	Or they have paint on.
	Yeah, that's cool.
	That's art, though.
	You could just say it's art.
	Yeah, you're right.
	If you say art, like you're good.
	I'm expressing my body in an artistic way.
	That's true, actually.
	I put a pride flag in the back and just say, hey, homie, this is art, dude.
	I feel like if you add in an extra element of a group that's kind of an outline, not like an outlier group, but a group that struggles to find their footing a lot of times.
	I feel like that kind of can give you carte blanche sometimes.
	Yeah, sometimes.
	But if you talk about it before in this way and then do it, it probably won't work.
	Yeah, that's true.
	So I think you're kind of screwed now.
	What would you go, you think, if you had to do a new?
	Would you go side?
	Yeah.
	Hopefully.
	Yeah, hopefully.
	Yeah.
	Or, yeah, I mean, you want to put that body part in its best light, I think, if you're going to do it.
	Yeah.
	So I don't know.
	That's a tough question.
	And if I did front, maybe I would do something else to like take away from that.
	Take away from that?
	Yes, you're not just looking.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
	Maybe like a cool hat or something.
	Anything.
	Maybe that.
	I don't know what I would do.
	Just like, hey, look at this.
	Look at this.
	Don't look at that that well.
	Just peek at that, but look at this.
	Yeah, maybe something like that.
	When you did, do you notice with reality TV?
	Reality TV is very scary to me.
	It's an interesting thing.
	I feel like that is a world that really digs and tries to get like and gets really manipulative.
	Do you think that reality TV, like do you think that being a celebrity and being married in a celebrity kind of relationship, is that a lot more pressure on a marriage than you think a regular marriage?
	Or do you think it's just kind of grandfathered in after time and you get the hang of it?
	I think it can go either way.
	I think it definitely puts pressure on the relationship because you want it to be portrayed a certain way on film.
	And that might not be reality.
	And I think that's where it gets a little fuzzy.
	Because you're doing this on television and then it's rainbows and sunshine.
	That's not really real life for the most part.
	There's highs and stuff, but real life can be married in real life.
	There's a lot of boring times.
	It just is what it is.
	You can't always be riding sky high.
	After a certain point, it's like, all right, you're married and it's just, we're just, we're living together.
	You're just sitting around.
	You're just waiting for, you're sitting in the car waiting for your wife to get in the car.
	Yeah, I mean, you go to dinner, like you can do fun stuff, but like there's other times where it's like, yeah, we're just, we're just living life.
	Like it's just, it's another, it's another Wednesday.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Sebastian Man Escalco does on his Instagram, he does a lot of waiting for his wife.
	Yeah, I love his Instagram.
	Yeah, his is almost like a, that to me a lot of times feels like a real reality show.
	Yeah, absolutely.
	It's him like stumbling through the packages at the door and like being like, oh, which one of these?
	And that's like real everyday life.
	Yeah.
	So yeah, I mean, reality TV, it's painting a picture that isn't always necessarily true.
	And I think it kind of skews the audience a little bit.
	But I mean, that's what reality TV is there for.
	You know, it's for drama or for whatever, you know, all those things.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	I mean, I think about why some of it I look at, I think I want to just, sometimes I remember, especially when I was like kind of growing up, I guess, or maybe like I've made a little bit of money, but I'm not like a real rich guy.
	But I remember I wanted to see some of the Kardashians because I wanted to see what it was like if somebody was rich, you know?
	Sure.
	Like if they had like, you know, indoor pets, like that kind of shit.
	You know what I'm saying?
	You want to see what people are doing.
	You know, I remember that.
	But do you feel like it can, do you feel like that had any effect on like your, you got your relationship?
	And I'm not trying to get any relationship, but do you feel like that, like that can wreck?
	Like, I just don't, I'm really untrustworthy of that kind of stuff.
	So even the side effects of a lot of that momentum and what's glamour and stuff like that, we can start to believe it.
	Oh, absolutely.
	Yeah.
	I mean, and you start to, you start to believe it and you start to think that's how it should always be.
	And, you know, and, you know, it's the grass is green on the other side.
	Like all those things can, someone can fall into that trap.
	I didn't fall into it, but it definitely could happen.
	And it's, you know, and reality TV doesn't bother me.
	And I would, I'd go back and do it again for sure.
	And if someone came to me with an awesome reality TV show idea, I'd do it.
	I mean, I've got no issues with it.
	It's just, I think you have to be really grounded in kind of who you are and what you want out of it.
	Right.
	And realize that, hey, this is a job period.
	And your life has to be in a stable place.
	And you have to realize, all right, when the cameras are gone, like, it's just normal life again.
	Yeah.
	Which I'm sure is hard for some people.
	Yeah, I would bet probably.
	I mean, I bet it's almost like in some semblance the same of like doing football or doing something for a long time and then being out of this.
	Yeah.
	But it's almost even different because you're not, you don't get to like not hide behind a game, but you're playing within a vehicle, football.
	It's not like it's you standing out there and you just yell out some secrets at the line and then the offensive lineman turns around and tells you a secret.
	But I mean, people get confused by this stuff because it becomes their sense of self.
	Like that's who they are.
	And that's what you do for a living.
	That's not you.
	If your validation is through that stuff that's eventually going to go away, you're going to be lost.
	And some people it takes them a little bit to figure that out and find out like, all right, how do I get validated?
	You know, what, who am I?
	Like, what makes me tick?
	And it's, it's a, and I think that's pretty common for a lot of people, I'm sure, within their jobs and within kind of who they are.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, I could probably think that too, man.
	Yeah, I mean, if your podcast is, if everything's gone tomorrow and you got to go down to wherever and work, like, it's going to be, it's going to be a different experience.
	Like, you're going to be like, oh, wait, like, it's all gone.
	Like, well, that was kind of liquid death.
	I was talking on cameras.
	Like, where are the lights at?
	Yeah.
	Yeah, that's a good point.
	Yeah, sometimes I think about that.
	What would I do?
	Sometimes I'll.
	What would you do?
	You know.
	Like, they end podcasts tomorrow.
	No one can do podcasts.
	They outlawed them.
	They outlawed them.
	Yeah.
	They put a mask on all the cameras, which they easily could.
	You know?
	Two masks.
	Just in case.
	That's a great question, man.
	I mean, I do stand-up comedy for a living, so I'd have that.
	But if that went to man, I don't know.
	I would probably hopefully try to get myself a little bit of land and maybe do.
	Just become a prepper?
	Maybe a prepper, but also a prepper who has like a side paintball type of biz, maybe a pumpkin patch kind of like for holidays.
	Yeah, something where it's like, at least around the holidays, people are going to come around so you can see people.
	See people.
	Okay.
	So you're kind of doomsday.
	You're out for yourself, but at least around Christmas.
	Yeah, like holiday time.
	Yeah, it's going to get a little festive.
	And paintball, you can work on some stuff.
	Yeah, you can low-key, see who in town is getting.
	Exactly.
	Recruit.
	It's a recruitment for you.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Like, hey, this guy, things go down.
	You're on my team.
	Yeah, Sam, I want to talk to you about your son over here.
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	When you were, when you, when you, When you look at guys, when you look at football, when you look at guys like, what is it about, and I don't know if you're even able to see what this would be like.
	What is it about a guy like Tom Brady that makes him so capable to pull it off over time?
	Do you notice it?
	I think it probably goes back to his work ethic, like this start.
	And then, you know, he was in a great situation.
	I mean, I think, you know, timing, situation, work ethic, you know, his talent, his brain, like a lot of things have to come together.
	Like, if you look at really successful people, you know, they're obviously talented in whatever their field is, but there's got to be some things that come together to help them get to this point.
	Yeah, team.
	Like a just a, yeah.
	And I mean, being with Bill and Josh McDaniels and their defense was unbelievable when he first got there.
	And obviously he was good too, and he grew with that and he became the team.
	But, you know, you look at a lot of these quarterbacks that get into the league early and they're just, you know, they're on bad teams.
	They don't have a lot of talent around them.
	The coaches kind of maybe getting fired or coming in and starting over.
	So and not to take away from Tom, because I mean, what he's done is probably never be done again.
	You know, but he came into a really, really good situation.
	And to his credit, he took advantage of it, you know, better than anybody could.
	Is there like anything that he possesses?
	Does it seem like he's magic when you're around, like when you see him or something?
	Or is it just...
	Right.
	Yeah, it is pretty magnificent.
	I mean, he's Benjamin Button.
	Yeah.
	He's Benjamin Brady for sure.
	Dude, you know what's crazy?
	Benjamin Brady was my damn.
	I had a principal in school named Benjamin Brady.
	Really?
	And we used to be able to get paddled, yeah, bro.
	And this dude, he would put it on you.
	And then a friend of mine died not too long ago.
	This kid died.
	he's an adult now, but he was a kid when I met him because I was a kid.
	And I went to his funeral, and Benjamin Brady was there, dude.
	The principal.
	Yeah.
	And I hadn't seen him ever.
	I'd only seen him since he paddled us and was like, rude.
	And he had a freaking, he was vaping, I think.
	And he was just chilling at this funeral.
	It's so different to see people of authority whenever you're younger.
	And now you're grown and you see them now.
	And it's like, you're just a regular dude.
	Yeah, you're eating crackers?
	Like, what are you doing, man?
	Where's your paddle?
	Did you, did you guys have that kind of corporal punishment when you were in schools or no?
	You could get paddled.
	Really?
	Yeah.
	Did you ever get it?
	No.
	No, I was like by the book, you know, tried to, I did try to do everything right.
	You did?
	I was the oldest.
	And I mean, that's just kind of what I did.
	Did you like, were you like an instigator at all in class?
	You were just chill?
	Just chill, yeah.
	I mean, I didn't, I mean, no, yeah.
	And that's kind of how my oldest is now.
	Like, he, he, I was, I was a pleaser, you know, like, I wanted to do the right thing.
	I wanted to, I mean, towards the end of high school, I stopped caring so much about my grades and stuff.
	But like, I went from like A's and B's to like a C plus in a few classes.
	Yeah, that's fun, though.
	Isn't that fun that last year and a half?
	You're like, I think I'm going to be okay.
	And like, I stopped taking like honors English, and I just went into like the normal English class.
	Just English.
	And I was like, this is awesome.
	People learning to stutter in there.
	I could do this.
	I could do this.
	Yeah.
	We went from like 10 page papers to like, just write a paragraph, please.
	Like, got it.
	Just draw a picture.
	Anything.
	Dude, that was fun.
	Once you're in high school and you kind of realize there's that moment where it's like, you realize that you don't have those crazy grades that's going to do anything for you.
	Or you have a path with a sport or with a profession already.
	And you're like, oh, man.
	And I think that's probably part of the problem.
	Like, I figured out, like, this doesn't matter.
	Right.
	This isn't what I'm going to be doing.
	Like, I just need to get through this part of it.
	Obviously, I don't want to be disrespectful and just absolutely bomb it, but a C, B, or A, it's literally doesn't make a difference.
	Right.
	It's not going to make a difference in my life.
	Yeah.
	And once you learn that, there's definitely like a newfound, it's almost, it's a little bit of an apathy.
	It's a lethargy.
	It's like a freedom, but it's also like, I'm going to take the, I'm going to do what I want to do now.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	And I think it's looked at, like you said, it's looked at like you're trying to take the easy way out, but it's like, no, I'm just, I just, I'm just going to focus my attention on something like, that matters to me now.
	Yeah.
	Instead of something that matters to your teachers or your parents or whatever.
	Did you, we got a question right here.
	You want to bring this in?
	Sean, your hair looks like George Washington.
	Do you see that?
	You see his haircut?
	He does.
	Did you get it cut like that?
	You're like, hey, give me the George Washington.
	The barber is probably like, who's that?
	That's patriotic, dude.
	It could be Tommy Laron gave him that cut, dude.
	Tommy cut your hair.
	What if she did haircuts and she only did cuts like patriotic figures?
	If she only did president cuts?
	Yeah.
	The first 16 presidents?
	I'm going to give you the Abe Lincoln today.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	We got that Ben Franklin, a couple Ben Franklins here at noon.
	Oh, this take forever.
	Yeah.
	I'd go in there.
	I'd let her style me.
	Who cuts your hair?
	Me?
	I just started cutting my own again, man.
	Did you?
	Yeah.
	This lady named Whitney cut it for a while, and this lady named Libby cuts it sometimes, too.
	Like, to pull off a mullet is...
	I mean, you do it well.
	Thanks, man.
	What's good?
	Yeah, I had this haircut when I was real small, and then I got like a man's cut, like a regular man's cut, and I never felt okay.
	Yeah.
	This is a little bit more you can hide kind of.
	Sure.
	I have a wide nose, so it's like this gives me a little bit more.
	More, more, more, more width.
	Yeah, it kind of makes it smaller.
	Yeah, you got to play it.
	Yeah, but now that I look at it, it's not that wide.
	No, I think some of it gets in your head, too.
	Once you start thinking one thing about yourself, you'll be like, oh, man, one of my legs is too long.
	I got too much hair on my body.
	You know what I'm saying?
	You start going crazy.
	I do anyway.
	I just got a Nordic track as well.
	Why?
	I don't know.
	I think they got me with some of the advertisements.
	What is like a treadmill or like the.
	No, not the hand, too.
	I'll do that later down the line, but it's just treadmill.
	So Nordic track makes a treadmill now.
	Yeah, they make a treadmill.
	But it has like a click.
	You get up to about 5.5, and it has a, I think the guy that's.
	Is that a walk?
	I mean, it's a...
	I mean, in the NFL, it's probably a walk.
	But for me, it's probably for just a regular.
	You're getting it.
	Yeah, I'm getting it.
	I'm cruising.
	But it's not very Nordic.
	I feel like when they say Nordic, that has like a aspen, like a Switzerland vibe or something to it.
	And it has like a fan on it, but it doesn't even get that cold.
	It's just more for like comfort, I think.
	So it doesn't.
	I wish it had that blast you out.
	Fucking we're going down to 25 degrees.
	You know what I'm saying?
	Good luck, motherfucker came on the thing or something, you know?
	I saw in your garage, I was poking around your garage.
	And where did you get your cold tub?
	Oh, yeah, this company, this new company called Blue Cube, I think.
	They sent it to me.
	Really?
	It's their first one.
	Blue Cube?
	Blue Cube.
	Blue Cube.
	Send me one, please.
	Yeah.
	They probably will, man.
	Wim Hoff?
	Yeah.
	I like that Wim Hoff stuff, man.
	I wish I focused on it a little bit more.
	I know.
	I got into it when I was in Chicago three, probably five years ago.
	And it's really good stuff.
	It's really good stuff.
	was a player you played with that was like way into that kind of stuff you know that was just like you You know, that was just eating liver out of a bag all day on the field, you know?
	You know, when I first, I mean, NFL's weird.
	It's really weird.
	Because it's very, very rare to find anybody that's into like alternative stuff.
	Really?
	Yeah, like these dudes are just eating McDonald's.
	And I mean, it's gotten better, but It's a fast-paced, you know, crush your body and just go to the next day.
	It's not really, it's not, I was never around a lot of guys that were really focused on taking care of their bodies.
	I mean, there's, there's obviously people out there, but, you know, 75% of the guys are just, you know, going to Chick-fil-A or McDonald's or doing whatever and just coming in and rolling.
	Damn.
	And these guys are unbelievable athletes.
	Like, these guys are programmed to play football and they are absolute freak shows.
	Damn.
	So they can just, they've obviously gotten used to being able to do that.
	They can, yeah, do it.
	They can eat whatever they want, drink whatever they want, and show up and just absolutely do it on Sundays.
	What about smokers?
	Because I'm friends with Blake Griffin, and he said that he used to play with this cool guy from Slovakia that would smoke.
	Cigarettes?
	After the games.
	Yeah.
	Did you ever play with anybody that smoked?
	I mean, I played with guys that smoked weed.
	Yeah.
	A lot of people.
	I'm talking about cigarettes, dude.
	I don't know.
	I mean, not that I know of anybody that smokes cigarettes.
	I don't even know people that smoke cigarettes.
	Yeah.
	Is that still a thing?
	I don't know.
	They still sell cigarettes?
	I mean, I just threw my vapes away because they just made me nervous at night because I would hit them too much and then I would get all nervous.
	Wait, what?
	You vape or not?
	No.
	I think it's fun for a little while.
	I mean, I think it's fun.
	Like just nicotine?
	Yeah, it's nicotine.
	Yeah, I don't know.
	But it's flavored.
	It's like you can get like, you know, berry crush, you know, you know, you know, fun lime or something.
	I don't know, different type of flavor.
	You need to get like pear.
	Yeah, I don't get it.
	Pear party.
	This is a different one.
	You lost my hair.
	Oh, there you go right there.
	Lynn Dawson enjoys a sweet cig during the Super Bowl.
	Yeah, they always put a cigarette in my mouth when I picture it.
	Yeah, I know they got the Smoking J stuff, and I was just, I wasn't even really thinking about that.
	I just wish you knew a player that freaking smoked, dude, because that guy to me would be a damn animal.
	He likes to just smoke cigs?
	Yeah, just fucking whipped.
	Just came into work.
	Yeah.
	Chucked it out and said, let's do this, boys.
	Now that to me, like Chick-fil-A, yeah, I get it, man.
	I mean, they used to all smoke.
	I mean, that used to be a thing.
	Yeah.
	I mean, drink beer in the locker rooms, smoke cigarettes.
	Yeah, when I was in school, man, they had before in Louisiana, you used to be able to drink when you were 18 years old.
	You could buy alcohol.
	And it was one of the last states to be able to do that because the federal government said, we're not going to give you any more road money.
	Yeah, they said we're not going to give you money for roads, right?
	We're not going to pay for it.
	For a couple years, we're like, fuck it.
	We don't need roads.
	We got four-wheelers.
	We'll be fine.
	Yeah, we'll drink and we'll ride on a croc's back.
	You know what I'm saying?
	We'll figure it out.
	But I think after about two years, the roads, you realize people are drunk and they're driving on bad wheels.
	Yeah, this is a problem.
	This doesn't work out.
	You lost that battle.
	Yeah, but it was like a year or two before I got to high school.
	They would have parties at the school on certain days where kids would just bring a keg and you would have it like if they were 18, they'd be able to stay there and party, man.
	And I would hear these great stories.
	Yeah.
	And it's like, sometimes I think the lore of things makes me, like the nostalgia of things makes things more exciting.
	Yeah.
	You know, like that's like that stuff.
	And then like, you know, the 70s, when everything was like more innocent.
	Yeah.
	Like, I feel like the innocence of the world is kind of gone, which is, I mean, it's unfortunate.
	But I mean, there's other things in the world that are amazing right now, too.
	But like that innocence of being able to do those things is, is, is, I think it's long gone.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	And there's so much judgment now on every little thing.
	Yeah, you can't do anything.
	Yeah.
	I mean, you don't even smoke a cigarette and you're a smoker.
	I'm a smoker.
	So it's, yeah.
	People want me to sign like packs of cigarettes for him.
	I don't even know, bro.
	Like, I don't smoke cigarettes.
	Yeah.
	I'll smoke a cigar.
	Yeah.
	Love a cigar.
	Did you ever go smoke a cigar with Michael Jordan in Chicago?
	No, no.
	Because he always smokes him, it seems like.
	Yeah.
	I mean, he would always have him in the locker room and stuff.
	I feel like he smokes one daily.
	Yeah.
	Which I don't know if that's good or bad.
	I think if you're him, you can do it.
	I feel like, I think it's for different people.
	It's different things.
	You know, like, you know what you can handle.
	You know, I. See, I mean.
	Yeah.
	Six cigars a day.
	Okay.
	That was way off.
	Yeah, that's a lot, it seems like.
	I mean, that's a lot.
	I mean, is that good for you?
	See, that nicotine would ramp my heart up.
	And I couldn't, and I wouldn't.
	But you don't inhale a cigar.
	But I mean, I'm sure some gets into you, obviously.
	Yeah, I think some gets wet.
	For me, some would definitely get into me.
	Yeah, here we go.
	Negative effects of cigars.
	Let's do this.
	Cigar smoking, okay, mouth cancer, that's bad.
	Throat cancer, probably bad too.
	Yeah.
	Lung cancer, heart disease, all bad things.
	Oh, pretty bad.
	Infertility.
	I'm done having kids.
	I'm cool with that.
	Yeah, then you're ready.
	Yeah.
	I got no issues with that one.
	That's what you come out with then.
	Cutler's infertility cigars.
	Only smoke if you never want to have children again.
	Cutler's soccer's realignment and infertility cigars.
	Dude, I think that place would be packed.
	Oh, gosh, we'd be on fire.
	You put a porch out front, people would go forever.
	Line out the door.
	Yeah, I was thinking, like, was there a big, like, because for like a regular, like, I would remember being in the stands during high school when kids were playing, dude, and I played basketball, but not super well.
	Yeah.
	And I just remember, does it seem more fun at college or at the pros?
	Is there like a big change where the what's some of that change in there?
	Because one has so much more money attached to it.
	One has a lot like that all-American type of thing.
	Was there one you even preferred more than the other?
	High school is the purest form.
	You know, you're out there, you're playing with your friends and your guys, and you're playing football just because you love it.
	College, I think, was college is fun because it's college.
	You're away from your parents, you're living life, you're at parties, you play football, you're going to school, like you're becoming an adult, and you're figuring out life at that point.
	And then I think the NFL, it becomes a job.
	And there's probably some, you get jaded by it a little bit, and it's literally a job.
	And the first couple of years, it's a blast because you're having fun, you have money, stadiums, you can buy your own house, you can buy a car.
	But after a while, there's a job attached to that.
	And you're expected to perform.
	And if you don't perform, somebody else will take your job.
	So it's a little bit different.
	Yeah, that is interesting.
	I never thought, what if I had a job, but there's somebody sitting over there who, if I'm not doing my job good today, they can come to me.
	Well, and then there's 50 people in the room being like critiquing everything you do.
	I mean, people critique you, but I mean, it's just different.
	I mean, every Monday, Tuesday, like in the facility, they're bringing guys in to try out.
	I mean, they're out there on the field, like running, running routes, throwing, doing drills every Monday and Tuesday.
	Damn.
	So, I mean, there's a percentage of the locker room that kind of gets turned over every couple weeks.
	Yeah, I never thought about that with that pressure.
	Even if I'm on stage doing a stand-up and there's somebody off in the wings who's over there stretching, just waiting.
	Yeah.
	Please mess up.
	Put me in, coach.
	God, that would be crazy, man.
	That's intense.
	We got a question that came in right here from someone.
	This isn't live, just so you know.
	What up?
	This is Colton out here in Las Vegas.
	I had a question for Jay.
	What was the worst part of your rookie hazing?
	And then what was the stupidest thing you spent on your first contract money?
	Gang, gang.
	Gang, baby.
	Worst part of hazing.
	I was lucky.
	I was really lucky.
	I went to Denver and it was John Lynch, Champ Bailey, Jake Plummer, Al Wilson.
	It was an old veteran team.
	And Mike Shanahan was the coach.
	It was ran really well.
	Guys were respectful.
	Guys were cool.
	They messed with you.
	But they did it the right way.
	You look around today and guys are getting their head shaved and doing stuff.
	It wasn't like that.
	All we had to do was get in front of the team and either sing a song or tell a joke.
	And that was it.
	We were done.
	Did you hear stories like old days when it was really crazy?
	Because it kind of reminded me, I guess, of like in fraternities and stuff, you'd always hear crazy stuff.
	In LSU, you'd hear crazy stuff.
	Yeah, in college, they blindfolded us and then we had to run through the locker room and they had wiffle ball bats and all kinds of stuff and just like beat us as we ran through it.
	And then we got to the finish line and we had to swallow a goldfish.
	Oh, damn, really?
	Yeah.
	And then they threw us in the showers and all the showers were on cold and they just threw us in there and like made us wait in there.
	Oh wow.
	Interesting.
	Like yeah, like that like yeah, we didn't have any of that stuff.
	I mean that's a really bad I mean yeah you had to carry pads and stuff like that off of the Lord will fix that.
	Is that Tebow?
	Yeah.
	Oh he'll be fine.
	But yeah, that's a bad cut.
	It looks cool on him though.
	He does kind of look cool.
	Yeah, like he pulled it off.
	Yeah, I think it reminds me of Mo and Curly and Larry of the three stars.
	That's exactly what it is.
	I mean, but if you just wear a hat, it's like, all right, I'm good.
	Yeah.
	But once you don't wear that hat, you're definitely, you better have a wife.
	Yeah, you might as well just not wear a hat just so like it's it's known.
	Like you don't want to take it off and be like, oh, wait a second.
	Yeah, you don't want to surprise people.
	And I don't think he was looking for a wife at that point either.
	So he's probably good.
	I think this might have been a point I don't remember in his career when he, I don't even know if he was, because I think he had some stuff where he wasn't maybe dating.
	I don't remember.
	Yeah, like he was virgin and stuff, the whole thing, right?
	Yeah, so I think, yeah, he wasn't.
	Oh, now this dude right there, that looks like his actual haircut does.
	He was like, this is, you don't even have to cut my hair.
	This is our role.
	Yeah, this is our role.
	This guy looks like he got cancer from like a Native American.
	Like, this dude looks like he is all in, bro.
	Like, last of the chemotherapy, dude, this dude's ready to ride, bro.
	I'm with this guy, man.
	Oh, my goodness.
	Is the biggest, you had a lot of neat people to play with over there.
	Was Matt Forte a really cool guy?
	Yeah, Matt's the best.
	God, I was a big JP Losman fan growing up.
	And I went to school.
	I went to school at Loyola when JP went to Tulane.
	And so I got to know him some.
	And so I was super, super talented.
	Awesome dude in the locker room, off the field, like did everything right.
	True professional.
	He was awesome.
	Yeah.
	The offensive lineman, is that your most important, guys?
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	I mean, receivers are important too, but like, you know, some of the, like, you just got to kind of, you throw them the ball, take them to dinner.
	Like, they're kind of deevish.
	So, like, they're easy to deal with.
	I mean, the offensive lineman, like, they, they make or break you.
	Is there some times where you really were on seasons and where it's like, man, I don't know if these, some of these guys are really down for me.
	Like, is there, is there, is there, like, a real thing when those guys are like down for you and when they're not?
	Yeah, I mean, you've got to start the, you got to start in training camp.
	Like, you've got to earn their trust and you've got to be there for them.
	You've got to, you know, stick up for them and go to dinners with them.
	And, like, ride or die, like, they're.
	Coworkers.
	Yeah, they're your front line.
	Damn.
	So even if they mess up, like, you, you've got to build them back up.
	It makes me scared, bro.
	I'll get scared even watching people.
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	I heard you say that it seems like easier for quarterbacks.
	Like quarterbacks don't get hit as much these days.
	Do you think it is that way?
	Do you think the game is getting more like just almost to a two-hand touch for quarterbacks in a way?
	Yeah, I mean, yeah, they're protecting the most valuable asset out there.
	I mean, these guys are getting paid a crazy amount of money.
	So the NFL is going to protect them.
	And, you know, I think it's a good thing for the game because you don't want to get into a season where you lose five of the best starting quarterbacks in the NFL.
	They're trying to take care of the product.
	They want to put a good product out there.
	They want to make it exciting.
	It's a fine line.
	It's like, hey, how far do you actually go here with this?
	Interesting.
	What fills some of your time these days, man?
	So obviously you started potting.
	Were you doing something else?
	Was there another business that you thought about getting into?
	Have people come at you with some weird ideas or anything?
	You know, I'm doing a meat subscription box now called Cuts Cuts, right?
	Yeah, so I'm doing that.
	And that was fun.
	I thought about doing a butcher shop at one point, but I'm like, I don't know if that's a butcher shop, it'd be cool.
	I know, but then like, you know, the pandemic hit, and I was like, well, people aren't even leaving their houses.
	Like, they're definitely not going to go buy meat.
	Yeah, that's true.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Hey, you can't leave a house, but we got to go buy some meat today.
	Let's do that.
	The wife's like, no, you're not going.
	We're not going out.
	We need meat.
	Damn it.
	I'm going to go to the butcher shop.
	But cutler's selling meat.
	And then, yeah, I mean, I don't know.
	I'm just figuring it out.
	Yeah.
	Do you feel any pressure?
	You don't need financial.
	You don't need pressure.
	No, I don't feel pressure.
	I like doing the podcast stuff.
	You know, the kids are getting older, so they're doing more stuff.
	You know, there was pressure when I first got out, but I mean, that's gone now.
	So it's just kind of just I've always said, like, hey, like, things will start to come.
	Like, I mean, I'm not going to just sit on my butt forever.
	And I'm not doing that.
	So it's picking up.
	Yeah.
	Did you get to play against Drew Brees?
	You guys played once, right, in the playoffs, maybe?
	Played in the playoffs.
	When they had Reggie Bush.
	I think the Saints had Reggie Bush.
	Oh, no, I was in Chicago that.
	I played him in Denver.
	Played him in Denver.
	They had Reggie.
	And then in Chicago, we played him probably, I'm sure we played him a couple times.
	Was it interesting to see Drew Brees?
	Because he almost is like an anomaly.
	Like, I remember when I first got to New Orleans, he came out and saw a comedy show.
	It was like his first week in town, and Scott Fegeta brought him out to see a comedy show one time.
	Yeah, we won that game, that Denver Saints game.
	They missed a field goal.
	They missed a 50-yard field goal, 40-yard field goal at the end to lose, and we won.
	Yeah, he's, yeah, it's bizarre.
	And if you watch him, like, he lifts his head up because he's short.
	He lifts his head up, and he's looking through his face mask.
	And I'm like, I have no idea how that's off.
	It's like insane.
	And he's insanely accurate, insanely smart.
	He's got a ton of records.
	I mean, people are going to have a hard time catching him.
	Was it fun of hand the ball off and not have to pass?
	That's what I would want to do, I feel like.
	Oh, was it sometimes kind of relaxing?
	Yeah, like, yeah, like just, you know, you don't even have to think.
	But I mean, a lot of the run plays have checks on them.
	You've got to go the other way.
	You've got to point a mic.
	I mean, there's very few, like, we call them calling runs, like just car plays.
	Like, you just go up there, you call it, and you just go up there and say, hey, blue heady, blue heads, and you just hand it off.
	And there's a handful of those in the game plan, but I mean, not many.
	There's probably fewer in today's game than I had.
	Did you ever hand it off to a guy and you're like, man, this guy's fucked, dude.
	They're going to kill this guy.
	Oh, yeah.
	That's awesome.
	Yeah, you hand it off and be like, this is going nowhere.
	That's awesome.
	Good luck, bro.
	Good luck.
	Damn, bro.
	That's freaking wild, man.
	You had that thing a couple weeks ago where they were talking about the mask with the kids and the superintendent.
	Would you really be a superintendent?
	I'd be on the school board.
	I want to be on the school board.
	I would vote for you, man.
	I would help you campaign.
	I appreciate it.
	In my district, it's not, I can't run until 2024.
	So what is it?
	21?
	Why?
	Because you have to live there for a long time?
	No, just because that's how the terms are.
	So I think it's a four-year term, I think, I'm guessing.
	And the last vote was in 2000.
	So the guy in my district isn't up until 2024.
	So I've got some time to campaign, hit the road, fundraiser, all the things.
	You, yeah, maybe do a little comedy, cuts, fundraiser.
	Absolutely.
	Some meet, some chuckles.
	Get some school moms out there.
	Yeah.
	But people have been supportive.
	And, you know, Williamson County, I think, is going through it right now with the mass situation and everything else.
	And it's going to be interesting to see what happens in the school systems down there.
	Yeah, it's kind of wild thinking about Kids having to wear, that's kind of almost the scariest thing.
	I feel like some people say, well, kids don't know it's an issue if you don't tell them it's an issue.
	And some of that I get, but also, like, I feel like if I have a mask on, I can't, I don't get the same feelings from people.
	I don't get the same intuition.
	Yeah.
	And also, it's like children are like the least, like, it just seems, it seems ridiculous.
	Yeah, and you, but I mean, now, you know, that's what they're spinning now.
	Like, if you go on CNN, like, it's like, all right, you know, we've got outrageous number of kids getting, getting sick and stuff.
	And then if you go to a different side, it's like, well, they're, you know, the survival rate for kids is 99.9%.
	So it's like, you get it from both sides.
	And my, and, you know, I got pinned on the no mask side, which I'm fine with.
	And that's for my kids.
	I don't want them to wear masks in school.
	I think it's, it's hard enough being in school.
	It's hard enough, you know, going through that, you know, that K through five to have to have a mask on and learn how to read and write and talk and do all this stuff.
	With that being said, like, if you want to send your kid to school with a mask, that's on you.
	I'm fine with it.
	I got no issues.
	If you want to get the vaccine, get the vaccine.
	I just don't think we can make a mandate for K through five, like, hey, you have to wear a mask.
	That was my whole thing.
	Like, you can't mandate that.
	Right.
	And they gave everyone, you can opt out.
	I mean, they figured that part out.
	So, I mean, we opted out.
	But I just don't want to get pinned.
	Like, all right, I'm 100% against this.
	And I'm for my own being.
	But if you have a different opinion, I'm more than willing to listen and I'm more than willing to support whatever decision you want to make.
	Yeah, totally.
	I think it's interesting sometimes how if you say anything that is even like contrary or not even contrary, but like it's like if you want to raise your hand and even talk about stuff, you immediately get panned on.
	Like you're this outlier, you're this like anarchist.
	And I think a lot of that goes back to what we're talking to earlier.
	It's just like anything that people can click on.
	It's like they just want.
	That's all they care about making.
	They don't really care about making a conversation.
	And it's all just extreme over here, extreme over here.
	Like there's no middle ground anymore.
	There's no common sense.
	I think there are a lot of them, but those people, no one wants to.
	Well, and they don't want to talk.
	Those people don't want to talk because you're going to get destroyed on one side or the other.
	But I think you're right.
	I think there's a lot of people in this middle ground that do have common sense, that do want to live in this middle area and don't want to be on these extremes.
	They just, you know, I mean, it's not worth it anymore to say anything.
	Yeah.
	It's like, I mean, that's the weird part.
	I'm not going to say anything.
	I don't want to deal with this, either side of this.
	Yeah, man.
	Sometimes I get afraid to speak up, man, about certain things.
	Yeah.
	But also, sometimes I get afraid.
	This is why I get afraid, Jay, because sometimes I give him another water just so he has it.
	Thank you, Sean.
	Sometimes I get afraid because I just don't, sometimes my brain doesn't work as well as fast as I need it to.
	So it's like, I don't want to say something until I know exactly what it is.
	And people don't give you room to like.
	Oh, no, you say one thing wrong.
	It's over.
	You don't get a second chance.
	It's like, well, that's impossible.
	So the only people that are even allowed to speak anymore then are people reading off teleprompters who are knowing exactly what they're about to say.
	Or maybe like Ben Shapiro, who's like somehow, or Jordan Peterson, who are like computers and they're able to get it from here to here.
	Process it just like that.
	It's crazy, man, seeing some of that.
	And there's a lot of people out there that just don't want to say anything because they don't want to get canceled.
	They don't want to lose sponsors.
	They don't want to lose their job.
	So like they're just like, hey, I can't say anything.
	Yeah.
	I can't because I've got to feed my family.
	I need to go to work.
	Yeah, and that's kind of interesting, too.
	It's like at least, yeah, maybe some of those take that for granted.
	Like I'm in a place where at least I could say some stuff if I want to.
	But I worry though if I say like, not say certain things, but like the other day we did a Netflix special that we taped at the Ryme and they like a couple days before like everybody needs to be vaccinated or have a negative test.
	And it was like, you know, everybody had bought their tickets knowing that they either had a vet, just knowing both things.
	I'm willing to go.
	I've been vaccinated or I'm willing to go and I haven't.
	So that was really interesting because then it's like this, they're like, well, this is kind of our production that we're putting on.
	So it's like, you want to work with the rules.
	People have already bought their tickets.
	They're coming.
	You want them to be able to be a part of it and see the show.
	But it's interesting when businesses kind of start to have mandates and whether they're worried about what the social media repercussions will be.
	And that's the world we live in now.
	I know it's weird, man.
	It is weird.
	It's really weird.
	And we're at the point, too, we're still, I think, in that period where we're navigating what that is and what it means.
	And if it means anything, like, you know, two years ago, a tweet, somebody said, somebody, it meant everything.
	And now it's starting to be a little bit like people don't even pay attention that much.
	No, yeah, yeah.
	I mean, Twitter, I think Twitter, like, it's just about quantity.
	Like, people are just spitting out stuff.
	I mean, and it's just gone.
	Like, there's a next thought, the next thought, the next thought.
	Yeah, I don't think Twitter has, I mean, there's impactful people that tweet for sure, but like, I think a lot of Twitter is just, you know, garbage.
	Yeah, it's just a weird chatterbox.
	It's like, it's almost like Stephen A. Smith, but in like a business kind of thing.
	Yeah, just firing off stuff.
	Yeah, just rational.
	Just word garbage.
	Anything that, and it's like anything that will pick up steam.
	Exactly.
	It's going to be interesting 10 years from now.
	Like we look back in this space and time and like what we're going to think about.
	I don't know.
	I don't want to speculate, but it's going to be interesting.
	Because, you know, you look back at, remember Y2K?
	Yeah.
	Oh, yeah.
	That was like the first big thing.
	Yeah, like the world was ending.
	Like banks were going to be finished.
	People were buying lambs, dude.
	People were buying lambs and stuff for shit.
	You know what I'm saying?
	People are insane.
	Yeah, banks are going to be done.
	All your money will be gone.
	All your weights are gone.
	Like the whole thing.
	I wonder if that was the first thing that really started to scare people.
	I don't know.
	I don't know.
	But I mean, you're going to be a pepper here soon.
	So you're good.
	Oh, dude.
	I can't wait, bro.
	I'll be just sitting there with a Kindle fucking watching old Joe Rogan's.
	Just doing all I can, man.
	Just eating fucking Jay Cutler beef jerky that gets brought to me from a local wagon.
	What was that question that came in, man?
	We'll get to a couple questions here for you, Jay.
	Hi, Theo and Jay.
	I am so excited to know that Jay is going to be on Theo's podcast.
	That's awesome.
	Jay, oh my gosh, learn everything you can from him.
	He's awesome.
	My question is for Jay Cutler.
	My son started playing football this year.
	He's nine.
	He's a big boy.
	And wondering what some of your encouraging words might be for a first-time football player, first year.
	And anything for the moms out there who are watching our sweet little thick boys getting blasted on the line.
	Gay gang.
	I'm cut.
	That's tough.
	I know whenever my mom, like when I started playing football, and even like whenever I got into the NFL, like she was an absolute nightmare on gay.
	Oh, my gosh.
	So nervous.
	I mean, literally, I mean, every game I played.
	Just terrified.
	And what is she terrified of?
	You getting hurt?
	Yeah.
	Like getting hit, like the whole thing.
	And would she be in the stands always at the same spot, kind of where you could see her?
	Yeah, I mean, I always knew where our parents were.
	And then we had a box when I got in the NFL.
	So, I mean, I always knew where they were.
	And looking back on it now, I'm like, I get it because I have kids.
	Right.
	And they, my oldest one split football.
	And it's like, I don't know, bro.
	Like, I don't know.
	I don't know if we need to put you out here this.
	Because, I mean, watching them get hit and stuff, it's like, it's got to, it's, it's hard.
	And I took it for granted as whenever I was playing.
	Like, I didn't get it.
	You know, I got it, but I was like, hey, I'm going to be fine.
	Like, I've got this taken care of.
	Like, you can chill out, mom.
	Yeah.
	You don't get what they're going through.
	No, not at all.
	But now you see it.
	Now, yeah, now I see it completely different.
	I'm like, I understand it now.
	And thinking about Cam or my oldest, like going out there and playing football and getting, you know, just smoked on a play.
	It's like, gosh, that's going to be tough to watch.
	And would people try and smoke him more or are other dads going to put a hit, you know, Lions fans or something?
	You know, some dads at Lions fans has got to be tough.
	Absolutely.
	In any household.
	Absolutely.
	And it's just, you know, that undue pressure on them and, you know, all those things.
	So I'm sorry to all the moms out there.
	I know how difficult it is to do that.
	And you just got to encourage your son as much as you possibly can.
	Positive, positive, positive.
	It's in any sport when they first start.
	Make it fun.
	Make it fun.
	Oh, make it fun.
	What sport, if you had to lead him into a different one, do you think you'd maybe lead him into?
	Baseball.
	Oh, yeah, huh.
	Yeah, I mean, baseball's safe, man.
	Yeah, super safe.
	I mean, obviously you can get hit with the ball.
	The only downside of baseball is you play 162 games.
	Oh, yeah.
	Your wife's going to leave you.
	Oh, for sure.
	You might not even know she's gone, dude.
	That's how many games you're playing.
	You just come back and be like, wait, where'd you go?
	I'm friends with Walker Bueller, actually, that went to Vanderbilt.
	Him and Joe Musgrove are probably my only two baseball guys, pro baseball men that I know.
	Yeah, it's a different lifestyle.
	But one thing that's interesting about him, dude, he's kind of a, I don't want to say, he's not a regular size dude, but he throws just out of sheer fury, bro.
	Like, some guys are like 6'7, you know, but he's still angry about dude.
	And one of his arms, when you see him, he showed me one time.
	It's like way longer.
	Yeah, his whole right side of his body is probably completely different.
	And that's typical of quarterbacks, too.
	He's like, yeah, I mean, this side is doing this, and this side is pulling.
	So you're pushing and you're pulling.
	So, I mean, you get torques.
	I mean, you're doing this all day long.
	So, I mean, it has effects on your body.
	What about UFC?
	Do you ever been to it?
	Yeah, love it.
	You do?
	Yeah, I went to Connor's last fight.
	Connor and Dustin?
	Yeah.
	Me too, dude.
	Yeah.
	Me too.
	I was there.
	I saw Corey Feldman there.
	Did you?
	Yeah, which is pretty cool.
	Who else?
	Oh, I saw, I got to meet Austin Hooper.
	Okay.
	Who's a football guy?
	And Baker Mayfield and OBJ.
	They're actually really cool.
	Yeah, I saw them Friday night.
	Met Trump Saturday night before the fight.
	Yeah.
	No, is that cool?
	It was really cool.
	That's going to get me canceled.
	Meeting Nick Chubb.
	Huh?
	Meeting Nick Chubb.
	Who?
	You met Nick Chubb?
	Donald Trump.
	Oh, you met Trump?
	Yeah.
	Oh, yeah.
	I don't think that would get you canceled.
	I think you could meet...
	Dude, I was there when he came into the arena.
	The place went banana.
	It went crazy.
	Yeah.
	Went crazy.
	The place went berserker for him.
	They were channeling for him.
	Yeah, that was wild, man.
	But that was the first time I've ever been around.
	You got to meet him, though, huh?
	Yeah, it's the first time I've ever been around a president.
	And like the Secret Service.
	Were they there?
	Oh, yeah, they were there.
	Do they look legit or they don't look legit?
	That's a really good question.
	I've heard mixed reviews sometimes.
	And it was mixed reviews.
	And I was with my buddies, and we were sitting there, and we're like, we're kind of, I mean, I probably shouldn't say this, but I will.
	We're kind of sizing up the Secret Service.
	Not that we're going to do anything, but it's like, all right, you know, like, these guys are, they should be the best of the best, I would say, in the security world.
	And you're at a UFC event.
	People, everybody's sizing everybody.
	Yeah, but we're at the Trump Hotel at this point.
	Okay.
	We're in this, you know, conference room, just waiting.
	Oh, you're waiting to see him?
	Yeah, we're waiting to see him.
	And Secret Service is around, and I'm like, you know what?
	Like, he looks legit.
	Right.
	You know, you're 5'7.
	Yeah.
	Just kind of looks like a normal dude.
	Below normal two inches.
	Yeah.
	And I'm like, I just don't.
	But, I mean, they have to be super trained.
	And I asked my brother, I was like, do you think you could take that guy?
	And he's like, probably, he goes, if I train for a year, I could take that guy.
	Like, no weapons.
	A year's a long time.
	But it's a long time.
	Especially when you don't have any time because.
	But I think these dudes, these guys, these guys, they've got some skill set that we don't know about that I don't think you can prepare for in a year.
	Yeah, that's probably true.
	Yeah, I think you're looking at guys who are probably retired SEALs, that sort of thing.
	Like some bad dudes.
	And I've thought about that.
	You run into MMA guys are everywhere now.
	So you just got to be careful with people.
	That is kind of a cool equalizer of things.
	It's like, I don't, I mean, I'm not a fighter, so I don't fight people.
	Yeah.
	But like, I know people that do.
	And like, if you run into the wrong dude in a bar, like it could go real bad real fast.
	Yeah, it used to be totally different.
	It used to be kind of like, oh, you know, this guy will win, this guy.
	But now it's like, yeah, with all these headlocks, leg locks, Kimuras, these chokes.
	Just break your arm in like two seconds and just walk out.
	Yeah, dude.
	I go over to Nashville MMA.
	I did actually got a couple of cracked ribs and it was really affecting my workflow.
	Yeah.
	Ribs will do that to you.
	Yeah, huh?
	That's just disheartening, man.
	So it sucks.
	Everything.
	You can't function.
	You can't do anything.
	I could barely even hug somebody if I wanted to.
	You can't even take a shit.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	I almost had to keep my hands up like this when I shit, dude, which is insane.
	But it was just like less pressure on my body or something.
	I get it.
	I've been there.
	God, man, the stuff that men go through.
	Women think they go through it all.
	The stuff that men go through.
	They go through some stuff.
	Yeah, that's a good point.
	You're right, dude.
	You're right, dude.
	Who was your first girlfriend you remember in high school?
	Did you have one?
	First real girlfriend.
	Yeah, her name was Brooke.
	Yeah.
	Is she pretty hot or no?
	I mean, yeah, I felt like at the time.
	Dude, I bet you always got the hot ones, man.
	Dude, I remember I had to make out with this girl in a sand trap that had two different color eyes, dude.
	Was it cool, two different color, or like kind of, did it freak you out?
	It was a little wizard.
	It was a little Dungeons and Dragony.
	You know what I'm saying?
	Like a little bit.
	Somebody's rolling one of those big dice.
	You know what I'm saying?
	Every time you looked at her.
	Really cool chick, though.
	Yeah.
	So, but yeah, man, I remember one time the hot girl, for some reason, I got, she was down to go to like a dance or something.
	She was feeling your vibe.
	Yeah, I don't know what happened.
	She might have not been feeling well.
	I don't know what happened, but anyway, she was giving me a chance.
	She was ill.
	Yeah, yeah.
	And we went to, oh, and we went to like this dance.
	And then we were back at my friend's place where I was staying at.
	And I like, we were like kind of kissing.
	And I just couldn't believe in my head that this hot girl was giving me an opportunity.
	So I'm like, I'm just like, I'm just not doing real well.
	She's a statue.
	Oh, dude, I'm trying to kiss, but I can't like open, get my mouth.
	You're overthinking it.
	Oh, dude.
	I'm overthinking.
	Just like, you know, I've got brains in every part of my body, dude.
	And then I remember trying to like touch her panties and stuff.
	And I got so nervous, dude, that I just took her home, bro.
	And then I remember, dude, I remember she got out of the car.
	And even she was shocked.
	Like, why am I going?
	Yeah, what's happening here?
	And I remember pulling over by this freaking, this dock, this boat dock, and fucking crying in my car, dude.
	And that was in high school.
	That sucks.
	It was like my own nerves made it so hard for me to like sometimes do things.
	Like even sometimes playing basketball, it'd be like, if they ever put me a point guard, I'd be so nervous I couldn't handle it.
	I would just shoot it from half court.
	Like you just didn't want to mess with it.
	Yeah, I just like, yeah, just get it out of my hands.
	So I was like, if I do this, you know, then I'm okay.
	You're good.
	Yeah.
	But everything, man, that's how, that's why I think I feel like quarterbacks have to have, just not have this nerve thing.
	I mean, yeah, I mean, I got nervous.
	I mean, I always got nervous before games, but I think it was more like an anxious type of thing of like, all right, I'm ready to do this.
	Like, let's go do this.
	Like, you know, didn't want to fail.
	And I know there's guys out there that are scared of failing.
	And there was probably, I probably had some of that in me.
	I know I definitely had some of that in high school.
	But I think once I got to the NFL, like you prepare and you do everything during the week.
	So you give yourself the best opportunity on Sunday to be ready.
	And if you do that, you're good.
	But there is definitely a factor of the unknown out there.
	Like you're not sure, is this going to work?
	Am I going to perform?
	Am I going to be good enough on this given day?
	And there's definitely those thoughts that run through your brain for sure.
	In my brain anyway.
	Yeah.
	Was that the first girl you ever kissed, Brooke?
	No, I kissed the girl before that, Christie.
	Yeah, dude.
	Before that.
	At a dance.
	The girl that I kissed was named Christie, bro.
	Really?
	Not even joking, dude.
	And I would say her last name, but...
	She kind of had that Lloyd Christmas a little, you know?
	And somebody locked us in a room, dude.
	Some pervert, I think.
	And like went out by the window and watched us stay in there and try to kiss us.
	Louisiana is a different place, man.
	It was definitely a weird place.
	Maybe that's why I was always so scared.
	It was just everything was fucking.
	There's so many perverts.
	It's a different state.
	Was it at a dance or was it just?
	It was.
	Yeah.
	Yep.
	I mean, school dances were, I mean, you look back on them now and it's like there was so much pressure in it.
	Yeah.
	It's like, who am I going to dance with?
	Like, you're going to sit on the sidelines.
	Are you going to get in the mix?
	Like, what's happening here?
	Yeah.
	And all the slow songs were so good back then and so long.
	Oh, yeah.
	And the thunder rolls.
	Yeah.
	That was for a good time.
	Do they still have school dances?
	Is that still a thing?
	I don't know.
	It might be virtual now, I'm sure, probably.
	And I think if you were wrecked, you just like press a button or it, like, you know what I'm saying?
	Like, kind of pings your screen or whatever.
	Oh, gosh.
	Dude, that's funny, but you got nervous too, even asking girls out and stuff?
	For sure, yeah.
	Really?
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	God, dude.
	Yeah, absolutely.
	I can't even believe that.
	Yeah, I mean, I was kind of a late bloomer in school.
	So, and like, I don't think I, I mean, you were tall, though, right?
	No.
	Oh, you weren't?
	I mean, I was, I mean, I was taller than you.
	Yeah.
	But, like, I grew up.
	I grew an inch and a half in college.
	Oh, damn.
	My freshman year.
	Because the tall guy had always, I feel like the tall guy always, it's such a weird thing.
	If you don't play a sport, then you got to work at the airport usually by the baggage.
	Do something.
	And it's like, there's not like, So, to be tall, because you're standing out from the crowd, and to not have like a maybe a skill or something that makes you feel comfortable, that would be scary.
	Yeah, like if you were like six foot nine and like you didn't play basketball, it's like, what are you doing, bro?
	Yeah.
	What do you do with your life?
	At least move to Slovakia and play, like on the internet, you know?
	Oh, gosh.
	Let's get one or two more questions.
	Did you, was there, uh, man, there was a, oh, were there players in the NFL that you think that couldn't read?
	Like, is it that.
	Yeah, absolutely.
	Wow.
	Without a doubt.
	I don't know how many, but I'm positive there are dudes that can't read.
	That's awesome, bro.
	Without a doubt.
	That's awesome.
	Well, I mean, the NFL is like, it's just, I mean, it's probably the NFL players.
	They come from different backgrounds in basketball or baseball or soccer.
	I mean, a lot of these kids come from, you know, some tough, tough areas.
	Oh, yeah.
	You know, out of Florida and Texas and stuff.
	And, you know, football is their way out.
	And, you know, reading and writing is, I'm sure it's less now than what it used to be just because the education and social media, like they all have social media.
	So they probably all can read and write now.
	I'm probably wrong.
	No, I think now you're probably right.
	I mean, I remember we had kids at our school that were in eighth grade that couldn't read and write.
	You know, it was like...
	Yeah, I think it is.
	Yeah, it's part of our national.
	That's part of your charm.
	Our national anthem is just a bunch of people staring at the alphabet, our state song.
	Here's a question right here from the guy from Friday Night Lights after things took a different turn.
	Here we go.
	Hi, Theo.
	Hi, Jay.
	Hope this finds you guys well.
	He's excited.
	My question to Jay is, you know, we hear a lot of stories about how NBA players and NFL players, they go broke within like three years of being out of their respective leagues.
	And I know that's not the case with you, Jay, but I would be interested in knowing what your best investment has been with your NFL money and also what your worst investment has been with your NFL money.
	I know Theo was asked to be an investor in like a Mexican drug cartel zoo or something, which could have been a cash cow.
	A little risky, but could have been a cash cow.
	Well, it burned down about a month ago.
	Whole zoo burned down.
	Really?
	Yeah.
	Me and my buddy got a bad one.
	It'd be kind of cool to own a zoo.
	Oh, I think it would be good.
	Like own a lion?
	Cutler's cages.
	Elephant.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	I don't feel.
	Yeah, cages probably aren't a good look, though.
	Cutler's soft cages.
	Soft cages, yeah.
	Yeah.
	I could see that.
	Padded.
	Yeah, Cutler's padded cages.
	Yeah.
	It's just a lot of people you know that are in there, probably.
	Oh, gosh.
	Best investment or worst investment?
	Yeah, was there anything?
	I know it's kind of a boring question.
	It's not a boring.
	Yeah, it's not.
	I mean, I could make it cool if I had something cool.
	Right.
	You know, it's one of those questions, like, this is either going to be really awesome or it's just going to be like, oh, this, this, that was a dumb question because I guess sucked.
	Yeah.
	Did you buy a bunch of C-do's or something?
	What happened?
	You know, I bought a lot of dumb cars.
	I mean, not like, I just went through a lot of cars.
	Yeah.
	And, you know, not super, like, not two, $300,000, $400,000 cars.
	Just like your Mercedes and your Audis and trucks.
	And like, I would, I would just go at a Hummer at one point.
	I've had a Toyota Land Cruiser twice.
	Oh, yeah, those are sick.
	I've had, I mean, just like this dumb stuff.
	And I got to a point I was like, this is stupid.
	Like, we need to just stop.
	Like, just buy a car and just drive it.
	Right.
	Instead of doing, yeah, the highly short-term one-year.
	Yeah.
	What do you think of that new Ford Bronco?
	I love it.
	You do?
	I do.
	Wow.
	I like it.
	I tell you what, I like more, and I'm on the list for it, is the.
	Are they out yet?
	Weren't they supposed to be out?
	Like, what happened?
	I've seen a couple, actually.
	You have?
	Like, in real life?
	I sure have.
	Out in the wild?
	Yep, out in the wild, brother.
	I've seen these things.
	Wow.
	Roaming the earth, dude.
	Oh, no, I didn't see that one.
	That's doors off.
	I didn't know they could do that.
	I'm on the wait list for the Hummer EV.
	Oh, you are?
	Yeah, the electric one.
	Huh.
	Like, the top comes off.
	Bring up that Hummer EV.
	Bring up the Hummer EV.
	Because I got on the Cybertruck, but I can't tell if it seems cool or not.
	The Tesla one?
	Yeah.
	And then I can't tell if you're going to be able to get your own tires put onto it or if you have to use the ones that they give you because of just something.
	Oh, wow, this is...
	I feel like the Bronco looks too small for you.
	Yeah, the Bronco is small.
	I think this is going to be, like you said, a little bigger.
	And the tops come off.
	I mean, and it's electric.
	I feel like I probably should have an electric car at some point.
	Yeah.
	In my life.
	Maybe not.
	I like the smell of gas.
	Yeah.
	I've got to get it on my hands.
	I've got a diesel truck.
	Oh, damn.
	You got that sweet gas, huh?
	Yeah.
	So I feel like getting electric might even me out some.
	Yeah.
	Because you're doing the right thing.
	Back in God's gas graces.
	Yeah.
	Oh, that's pretty.
	Pull up the one Kevin Love's always trying to sell on Instagram.
	What's he selling?
	No, Kevin Love.
	It's like a woody wagon I think.
	Selling cars.
	No, it's a Woody Wagon.
	What'd you try?
	I see what he's always on.
	Oh, no.
	It's always on his.
	I just see it.
	Did you make this up, maybe?
	Oh, that thing?
	That club definitely doesn't have a Woody Wagon.
	That's not it, man.
	He made that up.
	Yeah.
	No, I thought I was going to love some guy on it.
	Some different dude.
	That's always selling something.
	I tried to, I told, I have a yoga instructor this morning.
	I told her I was going to try to set you up with her, too.
	Like for yoga or for a date?
	For either one.
	So her name is Emma.
	She teaches yoga.
	Where does she teach at?
	Is it good?
	Right here.
	She taught me this morning.
	Oh, she comes to your house?
	Yeah.
	Oh, that's nice.
	Does she do chakras?
	She might, dude.
	She's strong.
	Is she?
	I mean, she's, yeah, she's a dime.
	I mean, she's strong.
	All those yoga chicks are strong.
	Like, they scare me.
	Yeah.
	I mean, they don't scare me, but they're like, they're strong.
	You ever date a real, just a real?
	No, no.
	No, that's too much for me.
	It is, okay.
	Yeah.
	That's not my speed.
	You don't want that hardy panda, huh?
	Oh, yeah.
	I don't know.
	I've definitely dated a girl.
	You got a pat on the back every now, you know, and the back kind of pats back a little.
	Yeah, I'm trying to think of just one more thing to think about that dance.
	I was just thinking about those dances, man.
	That really was fun growing up.
	It was.
	I would go and get with your friends, and you all planned to go eat somewhere.
	Where'd y'all go eat at?
	Do you remember?
	We went to this place called Fazios.
	It was kind of dicey and a lot of divorcees, and people would meet up over there.
	Parents to like kind of low-key try and sneak around.
	I gotcha.
	I mean, I grew up in a really small town.
	And it was just a bunch of small towns.
	So it was like, you know, Denny's was the spot.
	Oh, yeah.
	Like after football games, there was like, you know, go to Denny's.
	No way.
	Oh, yeah.
	It was open 24. I think it was open 24-7.
	Because it was right off the interstate, but it was like 20 minutes away.
	Yeah, Denny's.
	And it was back whenever they had a smoking section.
	Remember the non-smoking and smoking section?
	Oh, I don't even remember that.
	You don't?
	It was probably because everyone in Louisiana smokes.
	It was all smoking sections.
	Dude, I'm trying to think, yeah.
	But that was always fun, man.
	So you even have to go eat there before dances even?
	After.
	After.
	After, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
	Yeah, that was fun, dude.
	Those are times that I really miss.
	It must be interesting being a dad because you kind of get to have this nostalgia where you get to kind of see the other side of the coin and what it's like.
	Yeah, yeah.
	I think it's harder to be a kid now, though.
	I think there's more pressure.
	They grow up faster.
	So I think it's a little bit tougher, but it's still a joy.
	I mean, just to see them go through some of the things that you went through and you're able to help them and kind of, you know, there's certain things you're like, I don't want to help you.
	Like, you've got to figure this out on your own.
	So it's kind of this fine dance of like, I don't want to shelter you, but I also don't, I love you to death and I don't really want to see you get hurt.
	Right.
	And it's like, ah, which, where do you land here on some of this stuff?
	Does it give you a different, it gives you a different respect for your own father, probably?
	Oh, yeah.
	That's cool, man.
	Absolutely.
	The circle of life, man.
	It's pretty fascinating.
	Who were you cheering for at that fight?
	Were you cheering for Connor?
	Yeah.
	You were?
	Yeah.
	Well, I mean, but I knew he was going to lose.
	Like, we had money on Dustin.
	Yeah.
	But, like, I think it would have been good for UFC for him to be back in it.
	But, like, we went to the fight saying, he's going to get murdered.
	I wish he would have made it to that first round.
	Who knows what could have happened?
	I mean, he's such a good striker.
	I think it would have been gotten even worse in the second round.
	You think?
	Yeah, I think Dustin was going to absolutely destroy him.
	Yeah, that's crazy.
	But it's amazing.
	Like, you know, he's talking shit in the hospital.
	I'm like, this dude, I wish I believed in myself that much.
	This dude's in the hospital, broken leg.
	He's already back.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Bro, that's like somebody in a coma and he finally gets a first word.
	Yeah.
	It's just like, fuck.
	It's like, are you kidding me right now?
	Like, it didn't even happen.
	It's like he fell off his bike and broke his leg.
	That's what's interesting.
	It's almost like whatever it is, it doesn't even happen.
	He's a king no matter what.
	No matter what.
	It reminds me of that 6ix9ine.
	Have you seen that 6ix9ine documentary?
	Uh-oh.
	Dude, it's really interesting because he just started realizing that none of these rappers were really killing each other anymore.
	So he could just talk shit to all of them because none of them were actually going to kill him.
	And he was right.
	He figured it out.
	He broke the code.
	He's just calling everybody a pussy, just doing whatever he wants.
	And none of them are.
	And so then the next thing you know, he's just like, look at me.
	He's a man.
	He's a legend.
	That might be how to do life.
	Maybe it is.
	Just not even see all the social media.
	Not even see all the thing and just be your own thing.
	Believe in yourself to the core, 1,000%.
	Fuck.
	I think we just nailed it.
	Best of luck with the new podcast, man.
	You can find it on podcast one.
	Yes.
	And we'll put the links to it below.
	And Jay Cutler's, man, thanks for coming in, bro.
	I appreciate it.
	It was fun, man.
	Yeah, it's fine, man.
	I'll patch up where it's been blown.
	Now I'm just foaming on the breeze.
	And I feel I'm falling like these leaves.
	I must be cornerstone.
	Oh, but when I reach that ground, I'll share this peace of mind I found.
	I can feel it in my bones.
	But it's gonna take a little time for me to set that parking break and let myself hold my shine.
	I'll see you next time.
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