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March 5, 2021 - This Past Weekend - Theo Von

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E327 Travis Tritt

Theo sits down with country music legend, Travis Tritt, to discuss Merle Haggard stories, crowds hurling quarters at Travis on stage, starting their careers in bowling alleys and dive bars, their first kisses and a preview of his first new music in over 13 years. Travis Tritt's brand new single, "Smoke In A Bar", is available on all streaming services now, and his new album 'Set in Stone' will be released on May 7th. https://bit.ly/theo-von Follow Travis Tritt https://instagram.com/realtravistritt https://bit.ly/3kLb42W https://travistritt.com This episode is brought to you by: BlueChew: https://bluechew.com and use promo code THEO to get your first order free Helix: https://helixsleep.com/theo for up to $200 off and 2 free pillows Magic Mind: https://magicmind.co and use promo code THEOMAGIC for 20% off Liquid Death: https://liquiddeath.com Music: “Shine” - Bishop Gunnhttp://bit.ly/Shine_BishopGunn "Smoke In A Bar" - Travis Tritt Hit the Hotline985-664-9503 Video Hotline for TheoUpload here: http://bit.ly/TPW_VideoHotline Find Theo:Website: https://theovon.comInstagram: https://instagram.com/theovonFacebook: https://facebook.com/theovonFacebook Group: https://facebook.com/groups/thispastweekendTwitter: https://twitter.com/theovonYouTube: https://youtube.com/theovonClips Channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCiEKV_MOhwZ7OEcgFyLKilw Producer: Nick Davishttps://instagram.com/realnickdavis Producer: Sean Duganhttps://instagram.com/realnickdavis See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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	Today's guest is, well, he's a soundtrack of a lot of lives, many lives, and he's, I mean, just a real archipelago of talent.
	You know, I really, my God, I just, well, you'll hear all about it.
	I'm honored to be able to be in his presence today and to have a conversation with the musical superhero, Mr. Travis Tritt.
	Music And how's it been like having kids?
	Like, was it hard to go from like being a kid?
	Because I feel like with fame and popularity, there's this, you know, and I can't imagine in your position, in my position, I notice a little bit, there's more opportunity to stay a kid.
	Yeah, right.
	Things are just, you know, life, there's more fun going on.
	You're part of the fun.
	You're bringing the fun.
	Was it hard to go from that to like wanting to be like a parent and getting into that vibe?
	Like, was that ever a thing?
	You know, it was a process.
	I got married right out of high school and did what everybody else did.
	You either did one of two things.
	You either went to college, which that wasn't an option for me.
	Damn, no judgment, bro.
	Holley is hard.
	Exactly.
	Or you got married and went to work.
	So I got married to my high school sweetheart and went to work for heating and air conditioning wholesale company down in Georgia.
	So was that HVAC?
	Were you getting in the attics or were you just selling the equipment?
	No, I was selling the equipment.
	But I was also going to school like two or three times a year to find out all of the, you know, updated products and kind of be a troubleshooter, you know, for all the products.
	So I did that and I started out on the docks loading trucks and worked my way up to manager of the store for in about 18 months.
	Damn.
	Were you a hard worker?
	Yeah.
	I mean, well, that's right around that same time is when I started wanting to play music as well.
	And so that marriage lasted for about two and a half years.
	And as soon as that marriage was over, I started playing clubs at night and then six days a week, Monday through Saturday.
	And then I would play, I would go and get up the next morning and go and do my gig.
	So that nearly killed me, even though I was very young.
	It nearly killed me.
	Just those hours.
	And do you think if you had stayed married in that first marriage, would you think you think you would have had the same career?
	Was there inspiration that came out of getting a separation at that young age?
	Were you just too young to even be able to put any of those feelings into music?
	Did any?
	I wouldn't even have thought about it probably at that particular time.
	Thought about music?
	Yeah, as a full-time gig.
	I mean, I played occasionally with, you know, I had a little band that I played with, you know, every now and then, but not very often.
	And I was kind of, my wife at the time, she kind of discouraged me from doing that, too, because, you know, when you're new, young couple, you don't want your husband out, you know, framing around all over the place, man.
	And it's not even, look, doing a live performance, it's not a real job to people until you start to really make it, I feel like.
	That's right.
	I mean, until then, you're just a really, you're just somebody who's trying to break up marriages around the area.
	I feel like.
	Like, people are like, this shit is a little strange.
	It's a good analogy.
	It really is.
	But that whole thing just, it just worked out.
	And I did the day job and the night job for, oh, I don't know, several, eight months, maybe.
	And I started realizing that I was having more fun at my night job than I was at my day job.
	And oddly enough, I was making more money at my night job than my day job.
	So I went back to my vice president and said, look, you know, if I don't take this shot now, I'll never know.
	I'll end up being an old man one day.
	And I'll never know whether or not I could have made it in the music industry.
	So I quit that job and never looked back.
	Was there a person that kind of like chatted with you and influenced you?
	My best friend Scott's dad, actually, he introduced me to Jerry Clower, who I was telling you about, who's one of my favorite comedians.
	And just a storyteller.
	You know, I just miss so often now everything's glanced over the art of storytelling and it's all just like almost like everything's an equation of what sells, you know, and Jerry Clower just did it.
	He just put me in a comfortable place.
	But my friend, my best friend, when I was young, his dad was from Mississippi and he introduced me to Jerry Clower.
	And then he said to me one day, I said, you know, I think about doing stand-up comedy.
	And he goes, well, you have to go do it.
	You know, you have to go and take that chance because otherwise your life will be there.
	You can always come back.
	Was there anybody like that?
	Or was it just you playing that kind of influenced you to keep moving?
	The vice president of the Heating and Air Conditioning Wholesale Company that I told you about, he also was a really good guitar player.
	And he had had, of course, it was kind of a family business.
	And his whole family, his dad had been president of the company.
	And they had groomed him to basically do that.
	But when he was very young, I think he had an offer from Carlos Santana to go out on the road and play guitar with Carlos Santana.
	That's huge.
	He's wonderful.
	And he passed it up.
	And so when I went to him and told him about what my dreams were, he's like, man, do it.
	Because he said, I will be that guy in my rocking chair at however old, 80 years old, wondering, man, I wonder if I could have made it in the music industry.
	And he also gave me kind of a safety net because he said, look, man, if it doesn't work, your job here is always safe.
	So I knew I had something to fall back on.
	But it worked out great, man.
	It seemed like it's paid off for you.
	Yeah.
	From an outsider's perspective.
	Do you miss sometimes like I've gotten to some light levels of success in my work in the past few years, and it's been a long series of work, but it's kind of weird.
	I felt like when I got to a certain level of like mild popularity or comfort, that all my problems would go away.
	Right.
	Or other things would disappear.
	But really, you're just still right there.
	Oh, those things never change.
	And the more success that you do have, first of all, the busier you are.
	I remember the first two years when I started releasing records in 1989, the first two years, I was home each year, a total of 14 days each year.
	And no two days were ever together, Theo.
	They were all, it was just like one day here.
	Because you're either writing or recording or you're on the road performing concerts or you're doing videos or doing press or doing whatever.
	And it's every single day.
	When it takes off like that, it just, it's every single day.
	And I don't have the luxury of being Travis Tritt 40 hours a week.
	Right.
	Wouldn't it be nice?
	Wouldn't it be nice you could lock out at a certain hour?
	It would be, man.
	You're like, all right, I'm just Donnie Tritt.
	You know what I'm saying?
	I'll be like, Joe Schmo.
	Yeah.
	Wouldn't that be nice?
	It would be great.
	It'd be great.
	But on the other side of that coin, I've found that for me, the old saying about find something that you love to do and find a way to make a living with it and you'll never work a day in your life.
	And that's really true for me.
	I mean, you know, yeah, it's not all glitz.
	And a lot of people out there think it's celebrity all the time and they think it's glitz and glamour and all this stuff.
	But that's, that's not it at all.
	As a matter of fact, when I come home, a lot of people that I correspond with through social media or whatever, they think that the only people that I hang out with are celebrities.
	Right.
	Right.
	Or people in that, and that's the furthest thing in the world from the truth in my case.
	I go back home.
	When I get off the road, I go back home and hang out with people that I've known for, some of them I've known since high school.
	That's cool.
	And like 30 years, you know, and they're all, every single one of them, you know, these are not, they're not even involved in the entertainment industry.
	I mean, most of them are blue-collar, hard-working people that go out and work with their hands.
	And they keep me grounded.
	They keep me grounded.
	If I came back home and started acting anything other than the Travis that they know and have known for all these years, man, they wouldn't hesitate one second.
	See an ass whooping maybe.
	Oh, man, put me right back in my place.
	Exactly.
	Exactly.
	Was there a time, like, because, yeah, it's a rock, when things get busy, especially in you guys' world, like, it is, it's such a rocket ship.
	I mean, I did about a year and a half of touring, and it was so intense, like, around the world, and it was just intense.
	I was just like, there were countries I don't even remember being in.
	Right.
	Really?
	And this happened a year and a half.
	You know, it was just like, it's almost bizarre, kind of just the pace that you go at.
	And was there a time when you had to kind of check your ego at all?
	Because the ego is a dangerous thing.
	It's not even something we control.
	You know, that ego, it can start to, because you see a reflection of yourself so often in posters and in people's smiles.
	They're so excited to see it.
	Little things like that.
	It can creep into your soul and build you up.
	Did you ever struggle with it?
	I don't know that I necessarily struggle with ego, but obviously when you're just trying to get started, and especially back in those days, everybody's in competition with each other.
	And there weren't, as far as all of the people that were the newcomers, they didn't hang out a lot, you know, together with each other.
	I mean, everybody's kind of, and they're very secretive.
	They're keeping their stuff to themselves because they don't want to.
	Like Rush almost or something.
	They don't want anybody else to know exactly what it is that they're doing for their recipe for success.
	Wow.
	And so it gets competitive.
	And I've always been a competitive guy.
	You know, I like to compete and I like to win.
	So there comes a point in time where you have to realize that, hey, a little friendly competition, there's nothing wrong with that.
	But at the same time, you have to remember that, you know, nobody was more surprised to have the career success than I was.
	I remember in the early days, man, you know, you dream about it.
	You dream about wanting to have that.
	And then it becomes a reality.
	When it becomes a reality, I remember being on stage, man, and I'm, you know, you'd be in these big, huge arenas that seated, you know, 25,000 people and it's sold out and they're there to see you.
	And I'm looking at the band and looking at the guys and it's gone, can you believe this shit is happening?
	This is unbelievable to me.
	Tell me I was dreaming, baby.
	That's unbelievable.
	Yeah.
	Wow.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, there's something, sometimes there's some Surprising moments, you can never really live in the fame or in the popularity.
	It's almost like it's something that's bigger than you.
	It's almost, it's like you can't really wear it that much.
	It doesn't feel like, I mean, I guess you could if you really wanted to.
	That would almost seem bizarre, but it's almost something that even though you're sitting in it, you marvel at it.
	Almost like you're in a pond, but you have waders on or something.
	For sure.
	Like it's not seeping into you, but you're right there in it.
	I think it's for me, I am no more the extrovert that I am on stage in real life than you could ever imagine.
	I mean, I'm just, I've always been, you know, I kind of, you know, I'm one of those guys that, you know, I kind of keep things on the down low, you know, and that sort of thing.
	And any partying I did back in those days, I did pretty much with a very small group.
	Yeah.
	And it was hidden from the public.
	Yeah.
	Of course, that was before cell phones and all that other stuff.
	Everybody had cameras everywhere.
	That didn't happen back then.
	But for me, it was about just, I don't know, maintaining the love for the music, but being able to, you know, when the show is over, it's almost like you put on, that's going to sound bad to say, but it's almost like you put on this suit that is Travis Tritt on stage.
	Of course.
	And then as soon as you come off stage, that suit comes off and the real me, my real personality comes back through.
	Well, I think it's almost a necessity because you also want to be a showman at that point.
	Sure.
	There's a level of, it's not really expectation, but you want to give people their money worth.
	You want to put on your best self at those, you know, especially at that moment where they came to see you and you came to see them.
	It's like watching a college football game, you know?
	If you watch the team right before they run on the field, what are they doing?
	They're jumping up and down.
	They're banging each other in the head with their helmets.
	And they're firing each other up to go out there on this field.
	Man, there is nobody on this planet that's going to do better at what we're about to do on this field today than us.
	And that's exactly the kind of thing that I have always had to do in order to be able to get up enough nerve to go out on stage.
	And backstage, I would tell myself, I started doing this as a ritual and I still do it to this day.
	If I'm backstage and the lights are going down and they're getting ready to, you know, fire off the band and I'm getting ready to run out there, I am backstage jumping up and down and firing myself and I'm telling myself in my head, there's no other time that I think this way.
	But at that particular moment, I'm thinking to myself, there is nobody on this earth, living or dead, that is going to be able to do a better job of entertaining these people than what I'm about to do right now.
	And I fire myself up.
	Of course, as soon as I come off stage, I realize there's a whole hell of a lot of people, you know, that are a whole lot better at this than I am.
	But in order to get the light, you're going out there and the lights are there.
	You have to meet the environment.
	It's like you can't show up to your wedding day like in a in beach clothes, you know, like you've got to, you have to meet the moment.
	That's exactly right.
	Did your son go to school here?
	No.
	I live in Georgia still.
	And my oldest daughter and my son, my oldest son, are both striving to be artists in the business.
	And they're working real hard at it.
	My youngest son is, my middle son, excuse me, my oldest one, he is, his music is very different than mine.
	My daughter's, she's kind of a throwback to a kind of a Linda Ronstack kind of era.
	Yeah.
	And she's wanting to bring that kind of back, but more in a direct country style.
	And my middle son, he's more southern rock, blackberry smoke.
	Yeah.
	Kind of in Bishop Gun, you heard that?
	Yeah.
	Oh, yeah, man.
	But they're both very talented.
	And, you know, it kind of makes you feel good when your kids come along and want to be a part of the family business.
	I like that.
	Yeah, it's kind of cool.
	Is it hard to be supportive since you had such success?
	Because success is a unique thing.
	It's like there's people that deserve it that don't get it.
	And there's, you know, it's a real wheel of fortune out there.
	But is it tough to be a parent of artists?
	Like, you know, knowing that you've had success, not knowing exactly what their future will be?
	Is it hard to balance how you kind of parent that and support it?
	Or is it easy?
	It's scary.
	I mean, because I've seen so many people in this industry that the industry has literally chewed them up and spit them out.
	And it's your chances, once again, your chances of being successful in this industry or being successful in sports or whatever are minute.
	They're minuscule to reach that success level.
	So it's always a thing.
	But I have to tell them, because I raised my kids, all three of them, from the time they were born, to believe that the only limitations that you have on yourself are the ones that you put on yourself.
	You can do anything.
	You can accomplish anything.
	But the biggest part of being successful, I think, is just showing up every day and constantly try to work to move yourself forward.
	Constantly try to do something, constantly try to learn something.
	Constantly try to make yourself better.
	And I Think when you do that, you appreciate it more when it does happen.
	Was there moments where you had to trust your instincts over what other people were telling you or anything like that?
	Was there moments where you kind of like just had to follow like an inner voice or inner vibe where maybe the market or the you know, there's a lot of technicians that are also in every business, you know?
	Was there times like that along your path?
	I started out, I came out with that first single, which was Country Club in 1989.
	And I'm a member of, is that?
	That's it.
	That's it.
	And it became top 10 hit.
	And then we came with the album in 1990.
	And the second single was Help Me Hold On.
	Third single was I'm Gonna Be Somebody.
	All those were huge.
	And then the fourth single, I released this song called Put Some Drive in Your Country that I had written at Dwayne Allman's gravesite down in Macon, Georgia, down at Rose Hill Cemetery years ago.
	Damn.
	Filming Mushrooms or something?
	No, just that's where they used to hang out.
	Because that song, Memory of Elizabeth Reed, that was on a gravestone that's right down at the bottom of the cemetery where they used to go down there and hang out.
	Damn.
	So I just used to sit by the grave and just try to soak up some of that vibe, that energy.
	And because that song had all these distorted rock guitars on it, and it was a throwback to that Leonard Skynyrd, Almond Brothers kind of thing, man, everybody in Nashville, Tennessee that was involved in the music industry and everybody at radio, in country radio, all of a sudden, they just came out, man, claws out.
	Oh, pissed off.
	Because you had, what, taken their sound?
	No, because I was not following the rules at the time of country music, which were you can use pedal steel guitar and you can do this and you can do that, but we don't allow that kind of stuff.
	So all these writers in these country music magazines, man, they start trashing me.
	I turn on the radio and I hear some disc jockey or some program director talking about, oh, well, he's just trying to be a rebel or he must be hard to get along with.
	And some of them actually came out privately and said it.
	He's an asshole.
	That's kind of cool.
	I think that's kind of dope, dude.
	Sometimes you hear somebody think you're an asshole.
	It hurts you a little bit, but be like, oh, that's kind of cool.
	Well, it was starting to get to me.
	And then they hit me with the one that really did the most damage at the time.
	They said, well, he's just an outlaw.
	Damn.
	And it was really starting to get to me until I met Waylon Jennings.
	We have a question that came in right here.
	This might be pertaining to it, actually.
	So let's just pop this up and see if it fits in, man.
	Hey, Theo.
	Hey, Travis.
	Hey, buddy.
	Hey, man.
	This is Josh, Southern Indiana.
	Travis, seen you in concert a couple times.
	Always remember the tribute to Waylon Jennings.
	Tell me how he influenced your life and your singing.
	Thanks, man.
	Gang, gang.
	Gang, brother.
	And I'll tack on to that question.
	Thank you for the question, man.
	And I love you, brother.
	Thank you for submitting that.
	And yeah, you kind of got accepted by like the, you got that dirty thumbs up from the bad boys in a weird way, you know, which was, what was that kind of like, you know, and I guess what role did kind of Whalen play in that?
	And, yeah.
	Whalen told me that first time I met him, he, I was getting ready to leave.
	We came into the dress.
	We were playing a show together at the Omni in Atlanta.
	And you're younger than him by how much?
	I know that, but by how much?
	A lot.
	20-something years, 30-something years.
	So do you, is it like when you were spending time with him, is it, I mean, it's almost like a seventh grader being around a ninth grader, I'm assuming, kind of.
	Because he was a hero.
	I mean, I loved everything about him before I ever met him.
	I loved his singing voice.
	I loved his songwriting.
	I loved his guitar picking.
	I loved everything about him.
	But one of the things I loved about him was he was not afraid to do things his own way.
	And he sat me down in his dressing room that first time we ever met.
	And he said, listen, I've been, listen, Haas, I've been hearing all the stuff that they've been saying about you in Nashville and on these radio stations.
	He said, let me just remind you that everything that they are saying about you now is exactly what they said about me and about Willie Nelson and Johnny Cash and Hank Williams Jr. and David Allen Coe.
	He just goes down the list.
	And he said, let me ask you a question.
	He said, are you still selling records?
	And I said, yeah.
	I said, man, I've been lucky.
	Everything I've done so far has sold platinum or better, a million copies or better.
	And he said, well, are you still drawing people into your shows?
	I said, yeah, man.
	We're playing huge arenas and they're sold out.
	He said, listen, those are the people you should care about their opinion because all these people in Nashville, they're saying all this stuff about you.
	They get their music for free.
	He said, these people that come out there, he said, those are the people that work hard 40, 50, 60 hours a week to put food on the table for their families.
	And he said, and they're willing to spend a certain amount of that hard-earned money to buy your music every time you put out new music.
	And occasionally they'll splurge for a concert ticket to come see you when you play in their hometown.
	He said, those are the only people that matter.
	And as long as you're pleasing them, which you obviously are, to hell with all the rest of these people.
	And man, that was like an epiphany for me.
	And it also, it took a tremendous amount of weight off of my shoulders because I realized at that particular point, Whalen and all the rest of those guys that were labeled as outlaws, they got that label by simply doing the same thing that I was doing,
	which is just wanting to do my music my own way and do show my influences, All my influences, which were very widespread.
	I grew up, Country was always my center.
	George Jones, Merle Haggard, that was my center.
	But I also grew up loving the Almond Brothers, Leonard Skinner, Marshall Tucker band, Charlie Daniels, and then, of course, the Eagles and Boston and Fleetwood Mac and all this other stuff.
	And then Blues.
	I was always a Blues fan, still am.
	Your voice has a lot of it, man.
	When I listen to some of your tunes, I'm like, man, this reminds me there are moments where it goes into a light gospel, you know what I'm saying?
	Or a light, it takes me through the different neighborhoods that were adjacent to the neighborhoods I grew up in.
	It takes me through, there's just, yeah, I can really, I can feel some of that, man.
	Well, Mississippi, man, I mean, that's so much great blues stuff came out of there, you know, and that's one of the reasons why that was always a staple.
	If you take bluegrass and if you take blues and straight ahead country and southern rock and mix all those together and then sprinkle a little bit of southern gospel over the top of it, that's the gospel, baby.
	That's me.
	Looking for the Lord, man.
	That's like Jerry Clower.
	He ended up being a pastor at the end of his time, I think.
	Yeah, I think so.
	He was a preacher at the end of his time.
	I think so.
	Here's a picture right here.
	Will you go back to that, Sean?
	Here's a picture of you and Mr. Jennings right here.
	Is it kind of interesting to see this photo?
	Oh, yeah.
	That was the first time we met.
	Really?
	That was right before we had that conversation that I just told you about.
	And was he like, did he carry himself like an outlaw?
	Oh, he had that Jesse James vibe a little on him.
	His give a shitter was totally broken.
	He didn't care.
	Dude, that's awesome, man.
	Yeah, man.
	To have that moment right there.
	Yeah, that was the first night.
	And did he have any traditions that you noticed kind of backstage or what was kind of, did he have any?
	As far as traditions, I don't, you know, were you allowed to spend time with him backstage before the show?
	Were he kind of liked to be by himself or did he?
	No, he was always really good about, you know, anytime I was around.
	He and I, Whalen was one of the kind of people, if he liked you, he let you know it.
	And one of his favorite sayings that I remember was, because a lot of people, they would talk about, man, when you do this many shows, do you warm up or do you, how do you prepare for a show?
	And Whalen's favorite answer to that question was, I get up off whatever I'm sitting on and go out and play music for people.
	That's what I do.
	And that answer alone just gives you an idea of what his, he was just cool, man.
	A cool guy and a guy that was just, you know, wanting to do his kind of music his own way.
	And that's what he was going to do.
	And he didn't give a shit what anybody thought about that.
	I love that.
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	I love that.
	Do you see any of that nowadays still?
	Like, there's a lot of, and I don't want to judge that there's a lot of cookie cutter stuff out there, but, you know, I come from a cloth where I didn't have much luck with the entertainment industry, so I started creating my own stuff and, you know, went on Joe Rogan and learned, oh, I can podcast and talk about my life.
	I spent a lot of time in Hollywood trying to like get rid of whatever kind of accent I had in my throat, even though I didn't grow up like really redneck.
	We just grew up kind of poor and white.
	Right.
	More like white fast.
	Like we didn't have a boat.
	Right.
	You know what I'm saying?
	Like I didn't, we didn't have bait.
	You know what I'm saying?
	Like those were fucking, you know, chicken liver was a delicacy, I thought.
	You know, so I thought it was sushi when I first heard about it.
	You know, it was fucking, it seemed pretty nice.
	but, so we didn't have like a country kind of vibe, we just had more of like a regular white vibe.
	But when I got to Hollywood, it really was like, oh, here's a country.
	It was like, there was no nuance to anything there.
	And I, I, for years, I would take vocal classes trying to like get like a straight normal voice where I sounded exactly.
	And then finally, one day I'd have said, man, I just can't even, I'm just tired of pretending, you know, I just don't even know what's going on anymore sometimes.
	And once I started to fall into my own world, you know, in my own life is when I started to have a little bit more success.
	Do you see any outlaws still out there these days?
	Do you see any?
	There's a few.
	I mean, in just the last few years, you know, you've had people that have basically chosen to say to hell with whatever's going on in Nashville, and they really don't use that as a gauge for what they think they should be doing.
	Right.
	And they're not afraid to break those rules.
	You know, you've got guys like Cody Jenks, you know, and some of those guys, Jason Isbel is one.
	Some of those other guys that are, they just want to do their kind of music their own way.
	Yeah.
	And those are the people that I think, especially in today's world, they stand out for the crowd, you know?
	And that's all I was trying to do back in those days to not only just show my influences, but also be a little bit something different so that people remember your name and they remember your music and they remember your performances because they're a little bit different than everybody else.
	Yeah, you need to get people to remember you.
	I remember thinking, man, I don't care if they remember my jokes.
	I want people to come back to see me as a human, as an entertainer, but also as, so I need to get as close to my work as I can to my humanity.
	Yes.
	So that when they see one, they see a little bit of the other.
	And I want them to come back and pay a fair price ticket to see me as a person.
	I want them to be like, oh, we're going to see Theo.
	Like, what jokes does he tell?
	I don't even know.
	That's fine if they don't even know what jokes I tell.
	I just want them to come and see me.
	Don't you think a lot of that comes from people just want to gravitate towards something that's real?
	I think, especially these days.
	Yeah.
	You know, we talk on this podcast, you know, we do a lot of episodes where it's just me talking to nobody really.
	And so, yeah, we try to talk about like just things that make us feel or that make us think or you know because everybody has these things going on and it's like we've kind of disappeared.
	Some of that's kind of disappeared.
	Everything's become so formulaic.
	It has.
	It has.
	And that's one of the things that, you know, when I hear people talk about being a little bit nostalgic for the music that took place, and not just the music, but lifestyle with all the stuff that's gone on in the last few years.
	I'm just in the process right now of releasing a single off of a new album.
	And it's called Smoke in a Bar.
	And it's talking about kind of being nostalgic for the days when we didn't seem to have all this upheaval.
	And, you know, people came by, neighbors came by and talked on the porch.
	We all said goodnight.
	We never locked the front doors.
	Even downtown, you could still see the stars when the world turned slower and you could smoke in a bar.
	Oh, yeah.
	You know, that kind of thing.
	And I forget about that.
	Yeah.
	I mean, and people are nostalgic for that kind of thing, especially as crazy as things are getting.
	Those of us that are old enough to remember a simpler time, I think we kind of long for that.
	Do you feel like, well, and well, it's one of the reasons why recently I've tried to relocate to Nashville.
	I still have my place in Los Angeles, and I'm from Louisiana originally, but I do notice here there is certainly a bit more of, you have a little more time for people as humans.
	Right.
	And it is a bit of a slower pace.
	There's a little more trust amongst people.
	There is.
	It's not as eroded away.
	It hasn't been as marketed.
	Right.
	You know, I, dude, I remember I used to play.
	They used to have this place in St. Louis, the funny bone over there.
	So it was a comedy club, man.
	And the first show was no smoking.
	Right.
	The late two shows, dude, those bitches were smoking.
	Bro, I remember, bro, like, dog, I didn't know if there was nine people in there or fucking 9,000.
	There was so much smoke.
	It was seven-foot ceiling at best.
	Trust me.
	And no, no, I don't even think they had a damn system to get the smoke out.
	They had a freaking, I swear to God, they had a waitress by the window with the window open.
	It's waving a menu at it.
	Like, they didn't have a damn game plan, brother.
	And I didn't tell you, brother, it was a damn.
	I swear at one point I saw a damn boat go through the mist.
	I didn't know what was going on.
	It is fucking thick in here.
	But I would just still do my shows.
	I had cancer by that second show, but I kept doing them, boy.
	I was in remission by the second day I was there.
	I was in remission.
	Did you ever smoke cigarettes?
	Oh, yeah.
	I used to smoke them, and I smoked for probably about 16 years.
	Yeah, I did about the same thing.
	Do you miss smoking it?
	Sometimes I miss some of it.
	Not at all.
	How bad did it get for you?
	I never was a heavy smoker.
	I would always smoke when I drank.
	And so at the very most, I was maybe a pack a week.
	What's that bad?
	You know, so it wasn't bad at all.
	But I got bronchitis in, I think it was 1992.
	And I went to the doctor and he said, man, he said, I don't give a shit if you start back immediately, but you've got to quit smoking for at least three weeks.
	And I thought to myself, well, if I can quit for three weeks, man, I can quit completely.
	And then ever since then, I'm not completely tobacco-free.
	I still dip every now and then.
	I couldn't dip good, man.
	Yeah.
	Well, the good thing about dipping is nobody's ever died from secondhand spit.
	Well, I don't know.
	I mean, who knows what's going on in some places?
	Who knows what's going on?
	Some people are real caught up in some wild shit.
	dude, I remember when I was young, we went the first time we got a can of dip, man, it was like Cherry Skull or something, yeah.
	And my buddy had got his driver's permit in Louisiana.
	They gave it to you at 15, man.
	They gave you that bastard at 15, and it didn't even have a picture of you, it literally had a drawing of you on it.
	I was like, damn, that shit looks sketchy as hell.
	And uh, my buddy got his mom's car, and we got a can of Cherry Skull, dude, and that was our night, bro.
	We didn't even, we was just hitting purbity, man, so we didn't even know nothing about really women.
	We knew about them, but we wasn't thinking about it.
	Right, exactly.
	So we went out, man, and I got sick on it, right?
	And I puked out of my buddy's driver's side window.
	Then I got so sick, I said, I need to sit in the back.
	I puked out of each window in the back.
	Okay, look.
	So in the morning, my buddy, his mom came back in town or whatever.
	She sees the car, and there's vomit out of it all three windows.
	So she said, who were you went out with?
	Some kind of party.
	And he said, look, I went out with Theo.
	He got sick.
	He just vomited out of all three windows.
	His mom, to this day, doesn't believe him.
	She said, what kind of maniac would vomit out of three different windows?
	That'll make you do it.
	It was fun.
	Especially the first time.
	Oh, yeah.
	Dude, I miss stuff like that.
	Remember the first time you ever drank or anything like that or anything like that?
	Man, man, I shouldn't even tell this story, but I'm going to tell you.
	I was 16 years old, and my high school was doing the play Godspell.
	And I was in.
	Were you in the play?
	I was singing.
	Oh, damn.
	Offstage.
	I was singing offstage.
	Oh, damn.
	It wasn't ready for you in a second.
	No, no, no.
	Let's put them in the wing.
	There you go.
	And the guy that was our theater teacher, we were doing rehearsals.
	And he's sipping on a Coke can.
	And I just got a whiff of it, and it smelled like peppermint.
	And I thought, now that's not Coca-Cola, man.
	So I asked him one day, I said, what are you drinking?
	And he said, peppermint snobs.
	And he told you.
	And he gave me some.
	Oh, hell yeah.
	So the Lord working.
	Man, I remember that was all I needed right there, man.
	It's like, yeah, this is good.
	And until I got sick on it, then I can't stand the smell of it to this day.
	Oh, I can imagine.
	That's a strong one.
	Yeah.
	That's a weird one.
	But, oh, God, I just.
	And would you sing?
	Would you just do it at the shows?
	Yeah.
	Well, I mean, all my buddies, I mean, we're country boys, man.
	We lived out in the country.
	So, you know, the thing, everybody went to work, did what they had to do.
	And then when you get off work, let's go buy some beers and let's go find some place to hang and party.
	Oh, yeah.
	You know, and that might be a club.
	That might be a bonfire out back.
	Yeah.
	That might be, you know, there was a big waterfall that was close to our area where the Chattahoochee River ran through.
	And a lot of times, hey, we're all going to meet at the falls tonight.
	Let's go over there.
	You know, so just, you know, stuff like that.
	Yeah, it was, you know, normal.
	Normal.
	Yeah, and such a good, such a rich environment for creating music, I feel like.
	Such a rich environment for creating memories and moments.
	Like, I just remember, yeah, things then, a lot of songs then I felt like had a little bit, and I hate to blanket statement like this because it's not always true, but there was sometimes more story that I could relate to.
	Maybe I was also at an age where I was really just growing up and still coming into life, you know, in your late teens and 20s.
	But yeah, there's something about like moments that are just yours where you can really then create art from them.
	Whereas now so many moments are so manipulated before you ever even put the pen to the paper.
	That's right.
	Because they've been shared so many times.
	Back in those days, man, I mean, and from its inception, country music has always been, in my opinion, the best genre for storytelling of all music.
	No matter where you're from, what your background is, there's going to be a country music song out there back in those days there were that is going to speak to how you're feeling.
	No matter how you feel about your job, your social status, your family, your country, your spouse, your boyfriend, girlfriend, whatever.
	There's going to be a song that's going to relate to how you're feeling and the things that you're dealing with in your life at that particular point.
	And that's one of the things I think I miss the most about a lot of today's country music because I just miss those great stories, man.
	Being able to tell those great stories that everybody can relate to.
	Johnny's daddy.
	Exactly.
	Taking it.
	Exactly, man.
	Dude, by the time they got to the end and they're in the damn hospital, I'm just fucking.
	I'm at the gym, bro, and I'm fucking crying.
	I'm trying to do 45s and I'm fucking crying.
	See, that's good.
	That's good because that means it obviously touched a really special spot in you that made you feel.
	If it makes you feel something, I don't care what it is, anger, fear, sadness, joy, whatever it may be, if it makes you feel something, that's a pretty darn good sign, man.
	Yeah, man.
	I remember I'm trying to think of once.
	Well, we went to the dances.
	So a lot of y'all's music, they would play at some of our dances once I got like later in the high school, man.
	And some of those, man, you hit those ballads, you get out there with a lady, bro.
	There was nothing like that.
	There was nothing like that.
	And that's where music becomes more than just music for a lot of people, too.
	It becomes really kind of the soundtrack of your life.
	That's one of the things about music that's always amazed me.
	I can remember where I Was for very specific moments in my life, and exactly what song was playing in the background.
	Like first time I ever drove my dad's car by myself, you know, or first time I ever went on a date, first time I ever kissed a girl, first time I, you know, all these different things.
	And I knew exactly what song was playing in the background for each one of those individual things because they're not just something that's playing in the background.
	It's the soundtrack of your life.
	And every time I hear that song today, any one of those songs, it takes me right back to that spot again.
	And I think a lot of people, music does that for them.
	Yeah, I think, man, my mom got one of those Warner Brothers music disc things for like 19 cents.
	You got like six albums, you know?
	So she picked out four and she let us pick out two, you know?
	And we would have to clean the house to Brian Adams every weekend, man.
	Absolutely.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, man.
	Have I told?
	Yeah.
	No, that's not even Brian Adams.
	No, that's Rod Stewart.
	Rod Stewart was one of the she got.
	You got Leonard Cohen, Rod Stewart, Ryan Adams.
	But, man, we would all...
	Oh, you got it.
	Dude, that was a band that never got the, I mean, I'm sure they maybe did at the time, but I mean, that was even before your time.
	But it was like, man, that band.
	Well, that was like the country music equivalent of what the highwaymen were, which was Johnny Cash, Willie Nelson, Whalen Jennings, and Chris Christopherson.
	I've got to go back and listen to more of that.
	Yeah, it's good stuff, man.
	Yeah, the Traveling Willberries, man.
	Yeah.
	That was some traveling.
	Traveling Willberries.
	That's some of the best in the business right there.
	Got Tom Petty in there.
	You got George Harrison.
	Did you ever try to cheat genres a little?
	Did you ever feel like you were or trying to get out of your own?
	Because it's like, I know, not cheat genres, but did you ever, was there ever a moment where you felt like you were, just sometimes our lives change.
	Right.
	And so the art we're putting out changes with it.
	And sometimes it's hard to, you know, we're like, man, this has worked so well for me.
	I'm almost scared of getting older, growing into something different or anything.
	Did you ever feel like there were moments where your music changed much?
	No, I really didn't.
	I've always kind of used the same recipe for making records.
	And that is that I just want to include a little bit of each one of those different genres that were so influential to me.
	So there's going to be, in the process of just recording this, I just recorded the first album that I've done in studio in 13 years.
	Oh, dang.
	And I recorded it with Dave Cobb, who produces Chris Stapleton and Sturgil Simpson and all those guys.
	And it's done now?
	Yeah, it's done.
	And how do you feel good about it?
	Yeah, I feel great about it.
	It's going to be out May 7th.
	It's called Set in Stone.
	But people were asking me when people found out that I was going to be doing an album, a new album, what's it going to be like, man?
	Are you going straight to headcountry?
	Are you going more toward the rock side?
	Are you going to do more blues?
	Or what are you doing?
	I said, man, the only way I know how to answer that, it's going to be a Travis Trad album.
	And that means that every Travis Trad album that I've ever done has had the same recipe, which is show a little bit of the blues, show a little bit of the Southern rock influence, show a little bit of that straight ahead country stuff, show a little bit of the bluegrass, and just sprinkle a little bit of Southern gospel over the top of it.
	And that's me.
	So that's exactly what we did.
	And there's, if you are particularly into one genre over another, you may not like every song, but there's going to be something on there you're going to like.
	I like that.
	We got a question right here from a fellow that came in.
	Let's get to this right here.
	Thanks, Sean.
	What's up, Theo?
	Hey, Mr. Travis, one of my favorite artists, by the way.
	Me and my dad just went to his show two years ago, and it was a blast.
	You guys got some fine-looking mullets trying to grow in out myself.
	For Travis, I'm just curious, some of your new favorite artists.
	Country ain't the same as it used to be, but I just wanted your take.
	Thanks, guys.
	Gang, gang.
	Well, you said Cody Jenks, you said.
	I love Chris Tableton, too.
	I think he's tremendously talented.
	Yeah, he's timeless.
	It's almost like listening to a cavern of nostalgia, comfort.
	There's a lot that goes in.
	It's almost like a whiskey or something.
	He's like a really good whiskey.
	Exactly.
	He's really good.
	I love Marcus King.
	Oh, yeah.
	He was just on Tom Segura's podcast, wasn't he, Sean?
	Yeah, people love him.
	He's such a neat person as well, it seems like.
	Yeah, man.
	He is a talented dude.
	There he is.
	Yeah, he's so, there's just something immediately so endearing about him when you even see him.
	He's got a great voice, great guitar player, great musician.
	And he's got a lot of that same blues, southern rock influence, and he's not afraid to show it.
	That Larry Fleet, you listen to it?
	Oh, I love Larry Fleet.
	I actually met Larry Fleet for the first time.
	I was hosting a show for USA Network called Real Country back about three years ago.
	Yeah.
	Me, Shania Twain, Jake Owen, were the host judges.
	And one of the people that came up in the competition was Larry Fleet.
	And I remember telling him as soon as he actually won his round.
	And I remember going up to him after cameras were shut off and just telling him, man, you are an amazing talent.
	I'm looking forward to hearing more from you.
	And he just has just done some great stuff recently.
	He's got a song out called That's Where I Find God.
	Oh, yeah.
	That is just.
	Oh, it's one of the ones that made me feel when you talked about songs that make you feel.
	There you go.
	I mean, it's like somebody took a trailer hitch from the world and literally hooked it onto my heart.
	That's right.
	You know, there's something special he does there.
	Yeah, he's a Super unique, man.
	Super talent.
	I believe that we're kind of getting into a time where Morgan Wally listen to Morgan.
	Yeah, I like Morgan.
	Yeah, I love Morgan.
	Yeah, he came on it like maybe a month ago.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, he's a close buddy of mine, man.
	He's God, he's almost too talented.
	Yeah, exactly.
	I almost feel like sometimes I listen to so many of his songs.
	I'm like, Jesus Christ, man, throw a couple bad ones in here.
	You know?
	And then he's got like, he's always like, you know, he's like, look, I almost want to tell you, you know, they don't, somebody leaked my music at Walmart.
	And I don't even shop at Walmart.
	I love him, bro.
	He's such a, and Morgan, you know, I love you, so I'm just, but I introduced him to UFC.
	We watched some UFC fights a couple weeks ago.
	He's a special talent, man.
	He's a special talent.
	I think that people are getting more into, I think, like you're talking nostalgia and connection.
	I feel like during this virus, during the pandemic, that a lot of people have started to say, I don't know if I want this rat race, whatever this is.
	It doesn't, the allure of it, it's almost like the curtain got pulled back on some of just the relentless go, go for what?
	Exactly.
	And I think a lot of us, well, I know for myself, I can only speak for, I'm sitting and kind of just in myself and saying, what do I want?
	I want to feel good.
	Right.
	You know, I want other people around me to feel good.
	I want to be able to be a part of things that are good.
	Exactly.
	And I think that a lot of people are starting to feel that way.
	I think there's going to be a resurgence of not country music, but music that connects people, music that makes people feel.
	I'm looking forward to seeing what takes place in all of music, really, but especially in country music.
	I'm looking forward to seeing what takes place as a result of being locked down for all these many months.
	Because you know good and well, all these great songwriters and all these artists and all these people, they have had nothing better to do with their time than to sit down and do exactly that.
	All of those things.
	And I think it's going to be, it's almost going to be like a baby boom, except for music.
	I think we're going to see that.
	And that's exciting to think about.
	But the baby's a pedal steel, maybe that's it, Breg.
	Yeah.
	It's a six-pound, eight-ounce pedal steel guitar.
	It's a girl.
	Congratulations.
	It's a progressive instrument.
	We have a question that came in right here from you.
	You might even notice this lady.
	She was at, I remember her from, she was at Kid Rock's 50th, actually.
	Awesome.
	Hey, Travis, Tammy here.
	Big fan.
	I think you have some of the best music videos of the 90s.
	I think your performance in your video, Tell Me I Was Dreaming, should have won an Oscar.
	My question to you is, I know you've done a lot of acting in your career.
	Which do you prefer?
	Full-time rock star or full-time movie star?
	Love you.
	Love you too.
	That's a good question, man, because at certain points of popularity, they start to offer you things that they might not have offered you.
	You don't have to go into that room to audition as much.
	That's exactly.
	Man, I had no aspirations whatsoever about being an actor.
	Right.
	Did it grow on you, though?
	Well, I enjoyed it, and I'll tell you the reason why.
	I was always out of my element when I was doing a movie or a television show or whatever it may be, when I was doing any kind of acting.
	And because I was so insecure about it and so nervous about it, I didn't just go in and learn my lines.
	I learned the whole damn script.
	I knew everybody's lines.
	And because I have a real hard time multitasking, I get real laser focused on whatever it is I'm doing at the moment.
	So if I'm songwriting, I'm focused on that.
	If I'm recording, I'm really focused on that.
	And if I'm performing, I'm really focused on that.
	So doing these acting roles, it forced me to concentrate so much on that that I completely took a vacation from music.
	I didn't think about music.
	I didn't talk about music.
	I didn't try to write music or whatever.
	And I found that the benefit of that was when I finished a acting role and came back to the music, I found that I was more creative.
	It was like, man, this is a fresh start again.
	And I wrote better songs.
	I performed better.
	My mind was more in the game.
	Because if you do anything, I think, over a long period of time, same thing over and over again, it can tend to get a little bit monotonous.
	But if you get a break from it and then you get a chance to come back and look at it through a little bit different perspective, it helped me tremendously.
	I think it helps make me a better artist and a better songwriter and a better entertainer.
	Was there a role ever that you kind of like, oh, this is kind of neat?
	Because acting, one of the reasons that people don't know acting, if you're a touring artist, acting takes a lot of time.
	It's a really long.
	So, you know, as a musician, you could probably do six shows in a daytime.
	You would do one set or one scene or half an episode of a TV program or something.
	So that's one of the reasons I think a lot of entertainers don't go over into acting that aren't actors.
	Was there a role or something you felt like you kind of got into or something?
	Man, the one I had the most fun with was I got to do – Yes.
	Yes, I remember the beginning, the opening thing, skeletons.
	Exactly.
	Okay.
	I got to do Tales from the Crypt with Hank Azaria and with Ben Stein.
	And I played, we were robbing bodies for this doctor so that he could try to find what He believed was the soul gland in a person.
	And at the end, I'll go ahead and give you a spoiler away.
	Yeah, there you go, right there.
	I get my head cut off, and I come back from the dead because they didn't remove my soul gland.
	I come back from the dead, and that was so much fun because there were no limitations on what the director basically said, do whatever you want to do.
	Come up with your own voice for it.
	Act as crazy as you possibly can.
	Do any wild stuff that you want to do in this.
	Your parameters are just wide open.
	And that was so much fun, man.
	I came up, you know, I come out, and of course, I've got this head on backwards, and I look like I'm walking.
	They did a Todd Masters, who did all of the special effects for that show.
	He created a head, a rubber head of me.
	It was perfect that they dropped down a well, and I come back out of the well.
	And man, that was just so much fun to do that particular role because they were, you know, it's always fun to play kind of the bad guy.
	Yeah.
	You know, that's always fun.
	But especially when it's like you're this monster that has returned from the dead, there's no limitations on that.
	Oh, yeah, huh?
	It's free.
	It's open game.
	Yeah, exactly.
	Yeah, you're already dead, dude.
	It's a wrap.
	You can do whatever you want now.
	That's exactly.
	Dude, I missed the old days, man.
	Back when they had peeping times and shit when I was growing up.
	Dude, we used to do peep and timing when I was growing up, dude.
	We had a guy in our neighborhood who had a ladder, and we'd have to almost sign it out for him because everybody was always borrowing it.
	Oh, we'd get that bitch on a Thursday, dude.
	We'd get out there, dude.
	Do some peep and timing.
	We don't even have that anymore.
	You know what I'm saying?
	Like, damn, it is.
	When's the last time you heard of anybody getting arrested for peep and timing?
	Dude, in high school, we had a buddy who did, but all my other friends were like, man, that's disgraceful.
	I'm like, I think it's pretty cool.
	I told him, I even said, hey, man, don't smoke cigarettes out there and leave the butts.
	That's how they catch you.
	And I said, look, if you're going to be out there for a couple hours, do a little gardening while you're out there.
	You know what I'm saying?
	There you go.
	Have some respect.
	There you go.
	That's what you're looking at.
	Have some respect.
	Dude, I miss those days, man.
	I'm heavily nostalgic.
	I love nostalgia.
	I love just sometimes just laying back and trying to feel through the moments that I had as a child and as a young adult.
	And there's just something so wonderful about like the freshness of life then, how it's the every moment is like in a Ziploc bag and you're just cracking that thing open for the first time, you know?
	Was there, what about like a first kiss?
	Was there anything special that you had like that growing up?
	Oh, yeah.
	I mean, well, yeah, falling in love.
	Oh, it was fun.
	Oh, man.
	It was awesome.
	It was awesome.
	God, it was fun, dude.
	It was so severe.
	Oh, yeah, exactly.
	Exactly.
	And everything that happened, man, you could relate it to, oh, man, this relates to how I feel about so-and-so.
	You know, it's just crazy.
	But, you know, I don't think that ever really goes away completely.
	You know, because I remember when I met my wife, I've been married three times.
	This is my third marriage.
	Like getting hit by rice, huh?
	Or bird seed.
	Yeah, man, that cheap rice.
	That's right.
	My wife and I, we met in 95 and we got married in 97 and we've been together ever since.
	I've heard a lot of nice things about it.
	We were at Hillary Williams' birthday last night and she said she had a ton of nice things to say about you guys.
	She's just wonderful.
	But I knew as soon as I met her that this person is, it wasn't love at first sight, but it was darn sure heavy attraction at the first sight, man.
	Because she, not only was she beautiful, but she was just so down-to-earth and relatable.
	And that's the kind of people I grew up around.
	So we just kind of gravitated toward each other.
	And it just, and I remember that, how that felt.
	And even though it was, you know, 20-some odd years ago, it doesn't feel like that to me.
	It feels like it was, you know, could have been last week.
	I think some of that is adult love, whenever you kind of get that person that you're just so comfortable being around.
	But yeah, I remember childhood love.
	It was just like, I remember I'd go to school and I knew I was going to see this girl Katie and like all day I was like just practicing what face I would have on when she looked over, you know, and it was always the worst one when she finally looked.
	It was always the fucking worst one.
	Do you remember a first kiss?
	There was some, even just a little like smooch around the neighborhood anything?
	Yeah.
	And no offense to your wife.
	She's the best.
	Oh, yeah.
	Yeah.
	Well, she doesn't mind that because she knows.
	First girl I ever kissed was a girl by the name of Melody McCoy.
	Oh yeah.
	And I was dating her and she was in that same play, Godspell.
	So this was all around the same time.
	Oh yeah.
	You liquored up.
	You learning it all.
	Absolutely, man.
	I'm learning quick.
	Hopefully the same guy that gave you the liquor didn't teach you how to run the smoots, man.
	That's what I'm hoping.
	And I had my first car.
	What was it?
	A 1969 Rambler, three on the tree, 306-cylinder.
	Damn new?
	Oh, no. 69. Oh.
	Rambler.
	Oh, my bad.
	69 Rambler.
	Oh, it was a piece of junk, man.
	If Rambler was an appropriate name for it.
	Oh, my God.
	It was terrible.
	But it was mine, and I bought it.
	Yeah.
	How much was it?
	$500.
	Hell yeah.
	Dude, I had a 1984 Ford Escort for $600.
	Somebody stole the passenger seat out of it.
	So people would get in and that'd go directly to the back.
	Nobody would have wanted the passenger seat out of this one, man.
	It was awful.
	It was terrible.
	It was so bad.
	Instead of, you know how you turn on the windshield washers, you know, spray the windshield washer fluid up on them?
	Well, this one had a little bulb on the floorboard that you had to pump like a water gun.
	It was terrible.
	Like, oh, there's some bird shit out there.
	Exactly.
	Exactly.
	But, man, we went out.
	Where'd you take her?
	Do you remember?
	I took her to a there was a park close to our house and they had like swing sets and you know one of those merry-go-round things and I took her to that were you nervous you remember yeah I was nervous yeah big time but man oh that was a great experience dude I remember they had this girl in my neighborhood named Chrissy Hunt and she was missing a tooth or one of us was I don't know you know I'm saying it was that age I don't know somebody
	dude between between two of us I think we had about 11 teeth you know and it was just I didn't come from a heavily enameled area you know and uh and she was yeah I remember she we kind of locked ourselves in a room or something I think we'd felt so much pressure kids in the neighborhood were always gonna kiss each other you know just like and we were so scared and and then I remember at one point thinking I was supposed to like touch her breast but I remember touching my own I was so scared to touch hers I started touching my own I
	just didn't know what to do man I just but I didn't want to be a wimp you know so I just absolutely dude I think I had bigger chest than she did at the time and it was just young you know and we had dude we had this guy in our neighborhood the dad was an Elvis impersonator right but we only had about 600 people in town we didn't have we don't need a fucking Elvis impersonator this dude was alcoholic oh okay so but I mean he also dressed up like Elvis at least you know so it's pretty entertaining but he would make his kids stay in the yard and he had an electric fence dude and one of the girls would let me go over there and like kind of smooch her
	through the electricity bro oh man bro the stress at just god i can still feel the stress in my neck trying to kiss through those wild holy cow god wow man dude and then we had i forgot about this so this girl chrissy's brother he was like i think he more preferred the company of men you know and so he made us i remember this now he made us dress up like army people and put our hair back and like made our hair look short and hers and made me and his sister kiss each other dressed up like little men
	yeah i think that's how old dude i think we were probably about 13 boy 12 maybe he shouldn't have been doing that he was only about 16 so i don't think he really knew what he was doing either but when i look back on it i'm like why are we why are we both lieutenants and then he went into the military years later he went into did he really yeah he did man awesome but uh damn yeah i just there's something i love about that we got a question right here that came up from somebody what up theo gang
	baby i just got a question for travis real quick i want to know what do you miss most about the climb to fame in the music industry when you were out there cutting your teeth on broadway or wherever you were uh what do you miss most about that and uh theo why don't you use some of that money from your butt and get your tire fixed amen dude i just i had a flat tire and i got up to eight cans of fix-a-flat in it before i finally took it in man so that's who i am you know procrastinator oh i
	was like you can hold one more can they had to replace a lot of stuff when i finally got it they said your tire has plaque buildup i said plaque buildup take it to the dentist yeah dude i need to take this tick somewhere else somewhere else um yeah what about that climb man because there's something once you kind of achieved a level once you and i mean your level of of of success is a really rare level but what do you yeah what do you miss about that climb what do you miss about like really miss about some of the early moments
	you know i wouldn't say i miss it but um because you can never replicate that really exactly you can't replicate i mean you can only you know you can only launch that rocket one time you know but and when it's all new to you you know that you're only you're only a virgin once yeah and the fact that um i was playing all those bars and clubs and stuff and i've i've told my my son and my daughter that want to get into music about that uh experience
	man i learned so much the hard way playing all those smoky clubs like you're talking about those smoky bars and dives and beer joints and honky tonks and bowling alleys and pool halls and bowling alleys was always the weird oh man weird place man you're hitting a low note and somebody just damn gets a split like damn but you're having to compete against all of that and plus you're having to compete against alcohol to try to get these people's attention and
	every one of the places that i played man they had they either had pool tables or they had dartboards or they had uh pinball machines or maybe all of the above so you're trying to compete against all that and it was difficult man it was rough and i went through a lot of nights where i how in the world am i going to get these people's attention but i even though i hated some of those
	instances that i was put in some of those positions i was put in i wouldn't take anything for them now because i learned i learned how if the show is uh interrupted for whatever reason if you break a guitar string for example or if a mic quits working or something you learn how to keep people's attention you learn how to keep the patter up you learn how to um work your way
	through it and those are the things that i still pull from the that book of knowledge i still pull from that every single day when i get on stage so was there a song that you would go to because it's funny you say that because i remember being in places where the the the the music was secondary to the liquor so it's like these people having a good time we're gonna also let you do comedy over here right but if you have you want to get everybody's attention that's gonna you have to do that there's nobody in here that's gonna help
	you do that you know was there a song or something you went to sometimes when you realized okay i gotta kind of reel it back in here ever when you were starting yeah there were there were two there were two songs that i really learned right off the bat um after playing clubs because i started out with just an acoustic guitar and that was it and then um I went out in probably, I don't know, it was probably 1984.
	And I went out and bought a Fender twin amp, and I bought a Fender Stratocaster.
	And somehow or another, I've never even seen one since then, but I bought a 100-foot guitar cord.
	So the first two songs, first two sets, rather, that night, you know, because they're serving food in there too.
	It's a bar, restaurant kind of thing.
	The first two sets, man, I'm up there with my acoustic guitar and I'm playing James Taylor and John Denver and, you know, whatever, George Straight.
	But by the time it got to that third one, pull out that electric guitar and that 100-foot guitar cord and I'm running out on top of people's tables, kicking beer and shit over, you know.
	But I had their attention.
	737 coming night.
	Absolutely, man.
	Absolutely.
	And I'm doing Johnny Be Good.
	Yeah.
	You know, and stuff like that.
	Traveling by him.
	Getting people's attention.
	On the other side of that coin, I found out that, because you'd have fights that would break out, you know, occasionally.
	Yeah, what do you play a ballad then?
	What do you do at that point, man?
	I found out not only a ballad, but the right ballad.
	Nobody can fight.
	I learned this right off the bat, man.
	Nobody can fight if you play Silent Night.
	The Christmas song, that will stop a fight quicker than anything on this planet.
	I could see that, man.
	So hilarious.
	Yeah, man.
	So I learned those two things right off the bat.
	I learned how to take them up, and I learned how to take them down if it got a little bit too crazy.
	Dude, I'm so bad at karaoke.
	My song that I've always done is rocking around the Christmas tree, right?
	I do that at karaoke no matter what time of year it is.
	And people like at first are like, this guy's a fucking newie.
	But then about, it's only a two minute and 16 second song, the one I do.
	Right.
	So about a minute in, you kind of see people are kind of okay with it, and then you're done.
	So you kind of got it out of your system.
	But I can relate to going to a Christmas Carol, man.
	Yeah, man.
	Using it when you need it.
	It worked.
	What's it like to be a father, man?
	What's that experience been like for you?
	Man, it's the greatest thing in the world.
	Did you know it would be going into it?
	Did you have skepticism about it?
	Because I have a lot of fear about going in and being a father.
	You're not a father yet.
	No, I really didn't.
	And I guess the reason that I didn't was because after my second divorce, I basically took about six, eight years.
	And man, I played the field.
	I sowed all the wild oats that I could have possibly.
	He was out there, huh?
	Big time.
	Okay.
	And played the field.
	And the good thing about it was I figured out during that period of time, okay, this is what I do want.
	And that right there is what I definitely don't want.
	And so by the time that I met my wife, I knew exactly what I was looking for.
	And I knew she was it.
	And so having kids with somebody like that that you feel that way about, it's not scary at all, or at least it wasn't for me.
	Now, it would have been extremely terrifying had it happened in the first two marriages.
	But we, thank gosh, got through both of those with no kids.
	But I remember being excited to be a father.
	And my daughter, when she was born, I was with Warner Brothers Records at the time.
	I had been with them since the beginning of my career.
	And I was looking to get off of that label.
	And I also wanted to stay home and see what being a dad was all about.
	So as soon as we found out she was on her way, I told my record label, I'm not doing any more records for you.
	I'm going to get out of this contract.
	And I'm staying home.
	I'm not touring.
	I'm not doing anything.
	I wanted to be home the first time.
	I wanted to be home, obviously, when she was born, but I wanted to be home when she took her first steps, when she said her first words.
	I wanted to be home for all that.
	So I took from 1998 to 2000 off just to be home and see what this daddy thing is all about.
	Was it pretty special?
	Oh, extremely.
	This is her right here.
	Extremely.
	Yeah.
	Oh, you got a beautiful little family, dude.
	Oh, thank you, brother.
	That's all three of your children?
	Yes.
	Oh, dang, huh?
	Yeah.
	Yeah, that's them.
	A couple shorties in there.
	Beautiful ladies, bro.
	Sorry.
	Oh, wow.
	What's your daughter's?
	What was the first daughter's name?
	Tyler Reese.
	Tyler Reese.
	And she's the one that plays music, you said?
	Yeah, yeah.
	Yeah, she's been, obviously before COVID and everything hit, she'd been out on the road doing a lot of shows.
	Do you guys play together ever?
	Yeah, we do.
	As a matter of fact, I took her in the studio when she was 14 and recorded a song for one of my albums, and we've been doing that song together.
	I'd bring her out on the road with me, and we'd do that song together.
	And then she started working on her own, and she's doing shows on her own.
	And she was really, I mean, everything was really at that stage where she was getting to be known by a lot of people.
	And then COVID hit.
	But it's going to come back.
	It's going to come right back.
	It's going to come right back.
	What's something special about Tyler?
	Just how even though...
	The fact that she is, she's got one of the kindest hearts I think I've ever been around.
	She really is.
	I mean, she can be now, she can be rough.
	Yeah.
	She lost her cell phone back at Easter of last year.
	Oh, that'll roughen a girl.
	That's a female's Vietnam right there, though.
	Man, she lost her cell phone for about four or five hours, six hours.
	And man, she didn't speak to me for like a week, you know, because I was just trying to help.
	And it was pissing her off.
	But she's outside of outside of stuff like that, she's really one of the kindest-hearted people.
	She cares about people.
	She cares about family.
	And she's extremely sweet.
	That's cool, man.
	That's cool.
	And your son, his name is Taylor, you said?
	No, Tristan is my middle.
	And then my youngest one is Terion, T-A-R-I-A-N.
	Oh, dang.
	Like the Lannisters almost like the Game of Thrones.
	Yeah.
	That's dope, dude.
	That's dope.
	And what's Tristan like?
	Tristan is he's very laid-back.
	He looks almost exactly like me.
	Oh, he's got to get that mull going then.
	Does he have that haircut or no?
	Yeah.
	He has some flow?
	Yeah.
	Praise God.
	Yeah, he's got some flow going.
	Yeah, man.
	The kids call it lettuce.
	You know that?
	That's what they call it.
	They call it that cabbage.
	That's what they call it.
	Cabbage?
	Yeah, they call it that lettuce, yeah.
	Well, Tristan Tritt is, he's coming into his own.
	And the more I watch him perform live, he's got a group called Tristan Tritt and Pale Moon Creek.
	And the more I see him live on stage, the more he looks exactly like, I look at him and it's like looking in a mirror.
	Wow, it's interesting.
	Yeah.
	I see him and I see me.
	That's cool.
	It's just a fact.
	But yeah, that's him.
	There you go.
	There he is on the left.
	Oh, cool.
	Yeah, that's him.
	That's cool, man.
	That's neat to have your family kind of be involved in what you're in.
	And it seems like you guys are able to navigate it pretty comfortably without any too much envy or anything like that.
	That's the thing that I think would be tough.
	Maybe it would seem like from an outsider's perspective, if there's like envy from the kids that makes the parenting uncomfortable or something.
	Yeah, everybody, you know, our family really has always gotten along extremely well.
	And I know one of the things that blows my mind, as I said, my daughter is 23, my son is 21, and my youngest son is 17. And I know when I was at any one of those ages, man, all I wanted to do was get as far away from my parents as I possibly could.
	Man, I just get out on my own and do my thing.
	But our kids, and I give my wife credit for this, she raised them with so much of an appreciation for the family unit.
	And, hey, this is family.
	Blood's thicker than water.
	You take care of your family.
	Amen.
	And so she instilled that in them.
	And they still, man, I mean, they love being with us.
	And we have some of the greatest times in the world together just going out and doing things.
	But even like mundane things.
	If my wife and I are home watching a movie or something on television, kids will come walking through the room and go, hey, what are you watching?
	And they'll sit down and watch it with us.
	That's very cool.
	It never happens.
	I know.
	I know.
	I would have never done that.
	What's something you guys are watching today?
	Anything you and the wife sit back and watch or a program that you kind of enjoy?
	Oh, man.
	We've been, gosh, we've been watching so much stuff, man.
	I just watched The Center.
	That's what I'm on, season one.
	The Center?
	Yeah.
	I haven't seen that.
	It's like a murder mystery kind of with Jessica Beal.
	It's good.
	Oh, really?
	Yeah.
	Well, we've been watching just, I think we've watched everything that there is available on Netflix.
	Yeah.
	Because the COVID lockdown stuff, you know, everybody's just staying at home.
	It's going away pretty quick, though.
	Do you start to feel that a little bit?
	Yeah, we're starting to see our schedule starting to open back up for the next few months.
	And it can't happen too soon for me, man, because there is something about, from an artist standpoint, I can tell you that if you love it as much as I do, there is a part of your life that is not complete if you're not able to go out there and do that at some point.
	Interesting.
	And I think from an audience standpoint, we have to bring live music back.
	Yeah, people are ready.
	They are chomping at the bit, man.
	I've been lucky, luckier than a lot of people.
	I've had the opportunity to do a few shows here and there in different places, but the people are just so hungry for it because they've been locked up and cooped up too.
	And as you well know, think about concerts and stuff that you went to when you were young and as you grew up and just the experiences that you had at some of those places.
	There is nothing like being in a live audience and your favorite band or one of your favorite bands doing some of your favorite songs and you've got your fist up in the air.
	You're playing air guitar out in the audience and the lights are going and everybody's drinking.
	Exactly the whole thing, man.
	There is something about that that can't be replaced by anything else.
	Tell me how.
	Is that your song?
	Tell me I was dreaming.
	Damn, bro.
	Yeah.
	That's cool.
	Is there moments where you like get so far along where some of you're like, holy shit, I forgot about this.
	We haven't played this one in a while.
	This one's great.
	Yeah.
	That's got to be pretty cool.
	We do that.
	As a matter of fact, that's one of the hardest things I think about changing the set list around from one year to the next.
	Always taking some things out.
	Taking some things out and then putting new things in.
	But it's always when you run across a song that's like, man, that was a great song.
	And that song meant a lot to a lot of people.
	It was just my imagination.
	Exactly.
	Telling lies.
	God, bro.
	You're crying on the wait bench, bro.
	I used to listen to like the most sentimental shit in the gym.
	I would be just, and I was doing steroids.
	And I was doing steroids, just ball.
	People are like, is it the steroids?
	Is it the music?
	What is going on, bro?
	Get it together.
	Music is a powerful thing.
	It really is, huh?
	It's amazing to have something that can almost just be a key.
	And some days it doesn't do it.
	A song doesn't do it sometimes.
	That's right.
	But sometimes you'll have heard it a hundred times.
	You might even liked it.
	And then you'll hear that one time and it just like fits every little groove.
	Yeah, man.
	It's the thing, man.
	Music is a very, very powerful force.
	And it never ceases to amaze me how powerful it is in some people's lives.
	I've had people, man, they could write, they come up to me and they say, man, when you wrote that song, you must have been reading my mail because that's exactly what I've been feeling for a long time.
	And I just didn't know how to put it into words.
	But you did in a three and a half minute song.
	You said everything I've been wanting to say.
	That's powerful.
	Do you feel like it's a gift from, because sometimes I feel like I like to do a lot of words and talk about stuff, but do you feel like it's a gift from God or do you feel like it's something you've created?
	No.
	Like you're just like a vessel kind of thing.
	I have and I have no reason in the world to understand why I got that gift.
	I have no reason in the world to understand why he picked me, but thank God he did.
	Yeah, you got to accept it.
	It's been great.
	It's been great because I've loved music all my life.
	And then to have the opportunity to play it and sing it and perform it and write it for a living, a really good living over all these years and provide for my family with it.
	Man, it's the best.
	It's the best.
	Doing what you love.
	I got one last question for you.
	So I heard a, this is a rumor, and this is just like there's lore out there.
	There was a, that, the song, Here's a Quarter, that you got tired of playing because people would throw quarters on stage.
	Actually, I didn't get tired of playing it.
	I got hit by one.
	No way.
	When we first started playing that song, we were playing small clubs.
	So even, and people would start throwing quarters up on stage.
	And even if they threw one, it's not going to hurt anybody.
	But when we start playing theaters and your third row balcony, to throw a quarter hard enough to people that are crazy as hell, man.
	So we started getting pelted.
	I would look down and laugh, man.
	It's just crazy to think about some guy in the third row like, man, I think Travis needs this for me.
	At least I didn't have Leonard Skinner's problem.
	Leonard Skinner had a song way back in the 70s called Give Me Back My Bullets.
	People would throw live ammunition on stage.
	Oh, man.
	But this guy, I was on stage one night in Knoxville, Tennessee.
	And I got hit.
	Somebody threw one from third row balcony.
	And it hit me right here.
	And I thought I'd been shot.
	It was just one of those things where it's like, whoa.
	And you kind of lose it for a second.
	And then I look down and there's blood just streaming.
	I got hit right above my right eye.
	Damn.
	And it's just gushing blood.
	So I grab a towel and I'm trying to stop it.
	And I couldn't stop the bleeding.
	So bottom line is it stopped the show.
	It ended the show.
	So we had to start making an announcement to people.
	It's like, look, if you start throwing quarters and somebody gets hurt on stage, you're actually cheating yourself because it's going to put an end to the show right then.
	And it raises your ticket price by a damn quarter.
	You know, kind of.
	But thankfully with Venmo now, a lot of people don't have quarters on them.
	You know what I'm saying?
	Like, if I even see a quarter, I'll be shocked sometimes.
	Wow, that's wild.
	I got Larry the cable guy a couple of years ago to do a intro for me.
	And it's like, hey, y'all, this is Larry the Cable Guy.
	Because of the danger involved, please do not throw quarters or any other hard objects at the performers during the program.
	Otherwise, I'm going to come over to your house, shove a milk bone down your throat, stick a hungry dog up your hand in.
	That's awesome, man.
	Did you ever meet Jerry Clower or even get to see him?
	You're probably a kid.
	You got to meet him.
	I got to meet him.
	No way.
	In the early days of my career, there was a show on the Nashville Network, which later became CMT.
	There was a show called it was Ralph Emery that hosted it, and it was Nashville Now.
	And I went on that show one night, and Jerry Clower was one of the other guests.
	And I got to meet him, and he was everything I hoped he would be, man.
	Just what a great guy.
	And I grew up probably the same way you did, listening to all those records that he did.
	Yeah, Knock 'em out, John.
	Marcel Ledbetta.
	Yeah.
	And the chainsaw.
	Yeah.
	Marcel Leebel.
	He would go.
	He'd name all of them.
	It's great, man.
	Man, I loved him.
	And was he a big known star when you were young, kind of?
	I'm sure your parents loved him, huh?
	Yeah, my parents, my dad, that's back in the days of eight-track tape.
	And my dad had four or five Jerry Clower eight-track tapes that he would listen to, you know, from time to time.
	Of course, a bunch of country stuff thrown in there, too.
	But yeah, and then he was on television almost every weekend.
	Oh, wow.
	He had a show that he hosted.
	I can't remember what network it was on, but he hosted every week with Jim Ed Brown.
	And he was just, man, he was great.
	And of course, you'd see him on He-Haul from time to time, too.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, I've been watching a lot of He-Haul, just some replays of it and stuff.
	Yeah.
	It's really fascinating what they did with that show.
	Yeah.
	It was amazing.
	Did, yeah, I thought about trying to even do a documentary about him, like trying to put it together and fund it and everything, you know, just before, because I know his wife is still alive.
	So before some of that disappears, you know, just trying to find a way to memorialize some of it.
	There's a lot of that that I think needs to be.
	That's one of the biggest reasons why I like to recall and recollect.
	I'm going to write a book at some point.
	I did one a few years ago, but I want to write another one and just tell all of the stories that I've experienced and heard about throughout the years, about all of my heroes, the people that came before me, Whalen Jennings, Charlie Daniels, Willie Nelson.
	You've got to have those things because they'll go away, even yo.
	Exactly.
	They'll go away.
	If you don't tell them, they do go away.
	Yeah.
	And there's nobody else that knows those stories but me.
	Amen.
	And them.
	And them, yeah.
	And the Lord, baby.
	We got to hold on to what we can.
	Anything else, Sean?
	I don't think so.
	You feel good?
	Travis, man, thank you so much for being here with us today, bro.
	Thank you so much for having me.
	I'm the honor, man.
	Thank you for, yeah, I think keeping nostalgia and just keeping my feelings alive throughout my life.
	I think that's something that you and a lot of entertainers of your ilk have done, man.
	Well, thank you.
	It's a real value to be able to, just someone who kind of is running like a, it's almost like you're just running this stitch every now and then through time that kind of holds people just close enough to the world that they're in that makes them feel a part of something, you know.
	Well, I appreciate you listening, and I appreciate the fact that you were able to recognize something in some of the music that I did that touched your heart, and that's good.
	Yeah, thank you, man.
	I appreciate that.
	Yeah, the one about the, what was in the spelling, man?
	I used to, I couldn't even spell and I was singing it all the time.
	T-R-O-U-B-L-E?
	Oh, no, no, no.
	That one, you made that one easy for me.
	But no, it was, I'm going to be somebody.
	Oh, yeah.
	I remember, dude, I remember being in spelling class.
	I'm thinking, man, I'm going to hear that song.
	I'm going to be somebody someday.
	And it'll be like, I'm going to.
	Some of the baddies.
	I was getting the F in spelling, bro.
	But in fucking the hope in my heart, dog, I had an A plus.
	There you go, man.
	Amen.
	Travis Chip, thank you so much for being here.
	Thank you, Theo.
	Daddies were daddies, and mamas were saints.
	What preachers were preaching, you could take to the bank.
	Kids played outside up until it turned dark.
	When the world turns slow and you could smoke in a bottle Trucks took a beating, the working man too.
	You could turn on six o'clock and get the whole truth.
	A seatbelt wants a backup, some mama's right on.
	When the world turns slower and you've been smoking a fall.
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