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Today's guest is the subject of a new documentary, which really is a just kind of a scavenger hunt into this man and his journey with wrestling and everything, addiction, life, everything, life, life.
Today's guest is Mr. David Arquette.
I left that parking brake and left myself on my eye.
Shine that light on me.
I'll sit and tell you my stories Shine on me And I will find a song I'll be singing just for you Yeah, this guy should have shown him now.
What do you need?
A little bit, a little bit, not too much.
He came in recently and he just sent those over as a gift.
It was pretty nice of him.
Hell yeah.
He's pretty happy to have a spot, dude.
This is sick.
Look what somebody made on a 3D printer.
On a 3D printer, David.
That's so dope.
Pretty nice, huh?
You have quite a collection of...
And we shut that door to you Monday.
Oh, sorry.
No, you're good.
Actually, it was your fault.
But do you have...
I saw in the documentary.
Yeah, I've got a bunch of collection.
I've been collecting since I started making money at 17. But just isn't it funny when somebody makes something for it?
I almost feel like you can't show the appreciation that things really deserve sometimes.
Yeah, totally.
Yeah, it's cool to...
It's cool when somebody...
when somebody puts their artistic ability to like do something with you involved, it's always dope.
It's like, It's amazing.
And especially when it's fans and all this stuff.
Yeah, it's crazy.
You had a marionette somebody made?
Yeah.
You have the marionette.
I mean, just briefly, in the documentary, you're able to see different little...
You see a little doodad or a piece of art here.
Yeah.
Yeah, you really get led into my world.
So you see a lot of sort of my house and some of my stuff I collect.
I like collect giant things.
I have a giant chair in it, a giant tennis racket.
Oh, yeah.
Weird stuff like that.
Do you, some of them, I just started drinking Diet Coke.
Yeah.
I drink Diet stuff too.
I feel like an old person when I drink it.
Do you?
I guess so.
Yeah.
I mean, you know, it's better than all that sugar, though.
There's these really great ones called the United States Soda that just came out.
And I'm only saying it because I just fell in love with it.
It's just 30 grams of sugar.
Like, not grams of sugar, but 30 calories total.
Oh, yeah.
So it's like just a little teeny, but it tastes good.
It's better than LaCroix or whatever.
I like LaCroix.
And you could burn 30 calories.
You could bend over and pick something up and burn 30. You know, that's 15 calories right there.
I often ran into you at the gym before.
Yeah.
And now I got my mini Theo Vaughn working now.
Oh, you're coming in and you do have a little bit of flair growing, huh?
Yeah.
Yeah.
You know, Flying Brian Pillman Jr. or Bulletproof Brian Pillman was really my inspiration.
Diamond Dallas Page had always had a great mullet.
Yeah.
Yeah, they got a lot of good mullets.
I'm trying to think of some they had back and they even had haircuts that were who was some early mullet work that they had in wrestling?
Who was some early guys?
Diamond Dallas Page was definitely and flying Brian Pillman.
The Rockers.
Marty Giannetti and old school Shawn Michaels.
Yeah.
They had some wild haircuts.
I'm trying to think of Hacksaw Jim Duggan made.
His was just kind of such a funny guy.
His wife Debbie is so nice.
Yeah, they were at Legends of Wrestling the last match in the documentary.
Yeah, they're really great people.
You meet these wrestlers and a lot of the time, like Ric Flair is incredible too, but his wife Wendy's like the sort of boss behind all these guys.
You know what?
Like my wife, Christina, is the boss behind me.
She's responsible for producing this whole film and dealing with all the crap that came along with it.
Yeah, so, oh, there he is right there.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, my God, man.
He looked like he would use that board on like a standardized test, honestly.
It's so funny.
He walks around with the board still.
Really?
Yeah, people get it signed and everything.
Oh, that's awesome, man.
Yeah, his whole thing was amazing.
Yeah, man, that was a wonderful time.
That was a time when Big Boss Man, that's a time when I grew up when that, when you had real, I don't know, I guess that's when I was a kid, too.
So that's when I saw it.
You know, it was like headlights looking right at me of just excitement and staying up late at night at 10.30 to see a Saturday night.
Sometimes on Saturday night, they would have a championship bout.
Yeah, yeah.
Well, it was all this, it was something they set up.
It was like these really weird matches, a Saturday night main event.
Yes.
And then it would just be like these quick, I don't think like any real belts were ever exchanged.
It wasn't a typical kind of fight.
It was more like a spectator thing.
Yeah.
Yeah, it was wild, man.
I remember just so excited.
And sometimes I'd pass out because of the excitement.
I remember just waking up in the morning and didn't know what had happened.
And my brother was gone.
Yeah, no internet back then.
You couldn't catch up.
No, you had to find a friend.
Your internet was the first friend you saw at the bus stop or whatever.
And you'd be like, what happened, Larry?
You'd be like, I got ground.
And you're like, this fucking internet sucks.
You're like, this dude is dial-up, man.
I need a real friend who has facts.
Yeah.
That's what's also cool about wrestling.
It's like, I have a couple of friends, Brent Joseph and Curtis Reynolds, who have just been my friends for years, but they're friends that love wrestling too.
So we all like, it's almost like those kids again growing up.
You can call them and talk to them.
That's what I love about RJ City too, my tag team partner.
We can talk wrestling, and he's wrestled half of these guys, so he can tell you stories about hacks on Jim Duncan or, you know, Piper or whatever.
Good tales, yeah.
You know, the closest thing I've seen to wrestling in a while in real life is we, Nick, do you have that, bring up that park thing in Portland the other day, this ANT?
I don't know if you saw this or not.
This is RJ.
Are you familiar with RJ City at all?
I'm not.
I saw him.
It's hilarious.
He's really funny on Instagram.
Is he?
I mean, Twitter.
Yeah, he's a real Twitter.
He's a real millennial.
I'll have to check him out.
This is Protesters in a Park, but this to me seemed like...
I mean, look at this.
Look at this.
To me, I know a lot of these people, a lot of this is political stuff, but a lot of it to me has a very...
Do you see any of that?
When you see some of these park battles these days, it seems like a lot of costuming.
You know what?
The best thing I've seen on the internet just came up this morning on Reddit.
It was otter gangs fighting each other in Singapore.
Yeah, these gangs of otters are getting together and they're fighting each other in Singapore.
Oh, water animals, you mean otters?
Yeah, the otters.
That reminded me of WrestleMania.
Oh, look at this.
This is so fun.
Look at these otters.
Oh, hell yeah.
So they're like these otters that are just wild otters, but there's gangs of them and they don't like the other gang.
Damn, really?
And they're having a rumble here.
These otters just going at it.
Look at the small crew.
They're smaller than the big crew, and they're going for it.
This is the BLM Royal Rumble stop.
Oh, my God.
Look at this guy that came off the top rope.
You saw this guy?
No, I know.
They're really into it.
And do they know who these otters are?
Are they pets that people brought?
Or these are just neutral?
No, they like, I think they might have bred the otters for this lake, but then they broke up into two different groups, and then they don't like each other.
Man, it's kind of like Romeo and Juliet a little, but like gang them style.
And that's in Asia.
Singapore, yep.
Like West Side Story.
Oh, they won't do that, dude.
They'll fight anything.
I wonder if Michael Vick's behind this, I feel like.
This is crazy.
Dude, how crazy do you think if Michael Vick would have fought a cute animal against each other?
I wonder if it would have been different.
Oh, man.
Like gerbil or, you know, like, I guess probably not because they had it was, I think they got upset because of like a lot of the deaths of the animals.
But anyway.
So my friend's a cop who's in the documentary Jerry in Connecticut.
He just sent me a video too of these two turkeys fighting for a girl.
That's something funny about animals fighting over a girl.
It's just so funny.
And I guess we do it.
Yeah, I guess animals will get real territorial.
Yeah.
You know?
Did you ever get in a fight for a girl whenever you were younger, you think?
Yeah, for sure.
I once got upset.
I dated Alyssa Milano for a little while, and I once got upset.
She showed up at this club we all go to, Roxbury, and she showed up with another dude, and we were just broken up, and I was like, crushed.
Did you stay in the club?
No, I came outside.
I kicked her car, unfortunately.
I apologize to her since.
She's cool.
I was a real piece of work.
I just kicked us out of her car.
It wasn't anything bad.
We didn't even really fight.
It was so pathetic.
Were you pretty heartbroken or not, you think?
Oh, yeah.
She was like one of my first loves.
I mean, yeah.
She's a wonderful girl.
Dude, you had a real nice smile, huh?
Yeah, that must be nice.
You're happy.
I mean, you're still a handsome guy.
Oh, thank you.
But, I mean, this is a time in our lives when people really were.
I was just young.
I was young in Hollywood for the first time and never really had pictures taken of me.
I mean, sort of.
I was a mess, though.
I'd once confessed my love.
I hope she doesn't mind me sharing all this, but I once confessed her love and I had taken some pill.
And then we had some real sweet conversation and I'd forgotten all about it.
Oh, damn.
And she was so hurt.
I don't blame her.
I was a real like horrible boyfriend.
There was terrible things that happened.
We once went on this really beautiful trip.
Oh, I feel so.
I mean, it's so funny.
At least you're honest about being a bad boyfriend.
I was a really bad boyfriend.
Oh, man.
We went on this trip and we're playing this mixtape and saw these beautiful love songs.
And then she popped it out and she saw some girls writing on it.
She was like, where'd you get this tape?
And I was like, I was looking for my old girlfriend.
She's like, how dare you?
I didn't get it at the time.
I totally get it now.
Yeah.
Yeah, it's been a long road to figure out how to be a good man.
That's been something for me.
Oh, yeah.
I feel that, man.
I feel, dude, that's what this whole podcast is based on.
Oh, dude, struggling, man, bro.
You're a young guy.
You got a serious lady or?
No, I've never had a serious lady in my life.
No, no kidding.
I don't think so.
I mean, I have.
I've just never been in a relationship where I didn't lie or cheat, you know?
That's kind of really, I think, been my MO.
You know, kind of I've always like, I think, like, dude, I remember having a party.
Some girl invited me to Colorado one time.
I go, she takes me to a party.
I'm at the party.
Somehow I end up getting her to play like a board game that I knew took a long time.
And then I met some, snuck off with some other girl and like professed my love to some girl in this closet.
And I don't know.
Everybody's feelings got hurt.
Yeah, I hear you.
My first marriage, I was really faithful and everything.
You know, it's one way or another it all I don't know.
There was a lot of stuff that happened and I got my heart broken and I don't know.
I don't it's it's important to be faithful and you know true.
It's hard though.
It is hard.
You know, especially when you have a broken heart and and you got animosity and like for you like when you lose faith and love.
Yeah.
You know.
Sometimes I think I lost faith in love like before I even knew what love was, you know?
Yeah, totally.
Yeah, totally.
I mean, I'm still trying to figure out everything, marriage and family and all that stuff.
Well, you got a beautiful group over there.
You got that little fella at that high five during the documentary.
Yeah, Charlie and Custer, I have an incredible wife, Christina, who's been amazing and really taught me a lot about loving myself.
And, you know, that's really what it all comes down to.
Like, I'd been on this whole quest to like, you know, find love and all this stuff.
And as cliche as it is that people say you have to love yourself before you can truly be loved or, you know, experience love in that way.
I did learn that through this whole thing, that it really is true.
Because sometimes you have all these things, at least I have all these feelings that I'm like, you know, I don't know, does she love me?
You know, just certain things happened during the whole thing of this movie, which were pretty intense.
Yeah, there's a key.
Yeah, her being really upset with me, like, do you want, just want to die?
Like, is that what you want to do?
And I had to sort of come to terms with that.
Like, I don't want to die.
But I wasn't happy either.
So I had to figure out how to love myself, as crazy as that sounds.
What were some things you feel like?
Because, I mean, I go to, you know, I'm in recovery, so I go to like stuff like that.
That's good.
Yeah, that stuff helps.
So that stuff helps.
Incredible.
It's good to have like a group.
That kind of helps me.
Yeah, for sure.
It's hard for me to not be, like, my biggest thing is just with my mom.
I go through moments where it's just like, there's no point in being upset anymore.
It's almost like my brain, like, like, sometimes I feel like she was mean to me when I was really little before I even knew I was alive or anything, you know?
Right.
I can't go back and fight those wars.
I don't even know if it really happened.
Right.
Sometimes I think I'm just extremely overly sensitive, you know?
Yeah.
And then you grow up in a world where it's like, you got to be a tougher.
You got to be able to, you know, put a rear naked choke on somebody or something, you know?
Like, you know, and then it gets scary.
And then now I'm a little older.
It's like, okay, at least I can try to figure out who I am a little bit and not be scared at least to do that.
Yeah.
For a while, I was scared to even kind of figure out what I was feeling or anything, you know?
Yeah, completely.
It gets interesting.
So I watched the documentary last night.
I didn't watch the last 20 minutes because I didn't want to ask you about anything that would give it away.
So it's a documentary.
It's a mockumentary.
There were parts where I didn't kind of know, like, it seems like a little bit of, I don't know, you tell me.
It's a documentary.
Okay.
I didn't, like, they kind of set it up so I'd start from the bottom and go up.
But like, even there's a deathmatch in it.
That wasn't planned.
They weren't even supposed to be filming that night.
It's something I set up.
I'm the one who also went on all the independent circuit.
The film crew didn't really follow me on all that.
I love that.
Yeah, it was really fun.
It was a real education.
Yeah, when you get to places, like there's a moment in the documentary, you get to the places, and here's a question right here that came in from a young fella for you.
Nice.
This is all real-time stuff?
No.
No, no, no, no.
No, this is real-time.
So this is all will be edited later.
But these were picked up this week.
Why in the goddamn book would you wrestle Nick Gage in a deathmatch?
What's the point?
You could wrestle so many other indie stars, but why would you choose someone that is willing to stab you to death with a light tube?
Get back at me.
Good question.
Good question.
I should have asked myself that before I did it.
What happened was I was supposed to wrestle Joey Janella, who's an incredible wrestler, the spring before that, but I couldn't because I got injured or I was doing a movie or something.
So then they were doing another spring break the next year in Los Angeles, and the wrestler who was wrestling Nickage fell out.
And he said, do you want to wrestle Nickage?
And I didn't even really know who he was and didn't know much about death matches.
I knew about hardcore matches.
I knew certain things, but I didn't know that there was...
Kind of came from, I don't know if it came from backyard wrestling.
They have a whole world of it in Mexico and in Tetna Shot Wrestling.
We used to call it.
Tetano game.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Tetanushot Circuit, yeah.
Yeah, I actually asked somebody before that because my wife was all concerned.
She's like, freaking wise.
Do you know if anyone has like, you know, whatchamacallit?
First aid kit?
No, no, like have been tested for like hepatitis or something?
And I was like, I don't know.
Do you ask somebody?
Hepatitis is a black wrestler that I know.
That's probably one of the best wrestler names ever.
No kidding.
That's hilarious.
Yeah, so I didn't know like if I was supposed to ask.
I didn't know.
I was in over my head.
It sounds like you've been over your head.
You were bored.
I am.
I have been.
I really am trying to figure this all out.
But I went and I did a bunch of research on deathmatches and everything.
I still didn't know what I was getting into.
But to answer the question, I wanted to...
And even though a lot of people Frown on it.
A lot of people love it.
So it is something we wanted to do a backyard wrestling match.
We wanted to do like a hardcore match, but it just didn't know how hardcore it was going to go.
And is that the one that's not the one that I see in the documentary, though?
Yeah, that is.
Okay.
Because that really, yeah, that was definitely you could see somebody's eating Fritos right by the ring.
That's real shit.
It was real.
I was like getting spit on.
People hated me.
But the idea was like, if I could win over this crowd, I could win over any wrestling audience.
Yeah, it seemed like it must have been pretty brave to wander.
First of all, it's scary going into somebody else's backyard.
That's always a scary thing.
That was really like, okay, let's do this.
I don't know.
I equate this whole film, this whole experience to like almost cleaning out your garage or like any kind of task like that where it seems so big and insurmountable.
But then once you get in, you just work on one corner.
Then finally you'll clean up the whole place.
And that's sort of, you just have to keep it, keep going.
Like in wrestling, if you hurt your neck, don't worry because next week your back's going to hurt way worse.
You know what I mean?
You'll keep trading these injuries all along the road.
It just never stops.
Yeah, it's almost like you're a voodoo doll, but you keep doing it to yourself in a weird way.
That's true.
It's true.
I was thinking about doing a little video game of, because my son used to play this video game of a little voodoo doll, and I wanted to do one of me, where then you could get anything, try to blow me up or hurt me, and I just come all back together.
You can't kill David R.K. Yeah, man.
That's crazy.
When you're doing the documentary, so at the beginning, you talk about you won the WCW championship.
Yeah.
And at that time, were you like, were you still running real hot on the Hollywood stuff?
Were you wanting to try to do something different?
You also seemed like kind of a loner that kind of likes to do their own thing in a way to me.
Was that part of it?
Like, if you look back on kind of learning about who you are based on some of your life path and the choices you make, are you able to see why you chose that?
Do you have any thoughts about that?
Yeah, in the movie, it like kind of sets it up.
Like, you know, Scream kind of typecasts me as a goofball and doing wrestling was kind of like bad for my career.
I don't really agree with that necessarily.
My wife kicked me out of the editing room at one point because I was like, no, you can't say that.
That's such a...
You've got to...
Because I say at one point I haven't gotten a job in 10 years.
Like, who goes to a...
But what I say right after that is, I haven't gotten a job from an audition in 10 years.
I've worked within that 10 years.
It's just people knowing me or just word of mouth or whatever.
So it's a little confusing.
But I've always made these weird choices.
I'm very public with stuff.
I called in Howard Stirt had a bunch of drunken conversations and did a bunch of AT ⁇ T commercials.
Those are probably the things that hurt my career more than anything, honestly, than the wrestling film or wrestling in general.
So I don't really agree with that.
But my career was at a weird place.
When you get up to a certain place where you're doing your own films, it's kind of like if this next one doesn't do great, then you kind of fall back down on this ladder of success.
But if you can parley it and have your films continue to do good or just even make money, then it's, you know, you can kind of keep going with it.
But having any of those expectations are almost unrealistic.
A lot of it is out of your control.
Yeah, totally.
Unless you do it yourself.
And that's what I've sort of learned.
That's why we did this documentary.
It's kind of taking control of your life and your career and just what you want to put out there.
It's what you've done with this podcast.
It's that kind of attitude where you're like, fuck it.
I'm going to do what I want, structure it the way I want.
And then that just builds on then you could do other things that you want and different projects start popping up.
Then you start spending your energy on your own stuff rather than waiting around for someone to stamp you cool or not.
So that's just not the way to go anymore.
And people can do it with their phones and learning editing on their phones or on a computer.
You know, it's wide open now because storytelling is getting better.
People are more aware of filmmaking and what it takes to tell a good story.
So you can read books on it.
You can look at YouTube videos to learn things about lighting.
Like there's all kinds of resources now.
Yeah.
You know, it's funny when I was watching it.
One thing I started to realize was, because I'd seen you, we did just cross paths at the gym a couple times.
You know, and you were always playing, were you training or racquetball?
What were you guys doing?
I was always just going.
I usually pay basketball and then do some weights.
That's usually just what I do to get sweaty.
I thought maybe I am a sweater.
Are you?
Yeah, I sweat too much.
It's gross.
Dude, my legs, I'll get these.
I shouldn't probably say this, but I'll get these India.
I used to get these erection pills from India, right?
Yeah.
And damn, they make my legs so sweaty, dude.
No kidding.
Why didn't you just get those legit ones?
They're too expensive.
They're too strong, man.
The American.
No kidding.
Too strong.
Oh, wow.
God, bro.
I couldn't even bend my arms.
I was like a damn gingerbread man trying to have snacks.
Oh, no.
But these men, they would make my legs sweat so bad and mostly on the back of my leg.
So it was just...
So I'd have to keep my back of my body away from a woman during like any sort of like, you know, sensual engagement.
And damn, it just broke me, man.
It just, God.
But they were so cheap and they would give you kind of a deep, an erection, but a soft, like a calm, like a manageable erection.
Manageable erection.
Because the stuff that these selling farm, a big farmer, that dick, that big farm is selling Is too much, man.
It's too heavy.
But what I was going to say was, when I watched the documentary, one thing I started to do was that I did notice, I liked the story and I liked the references to wrestling, you know, because I like wrestling myself.
But I started to care about you, though, as a person as I'm watching it.
I started to get invested in, okay, obviously I know who David Arquette is, but I just started to the scene that really got me was with the scene when you're doing the street fighting with the Mexican guys.
Oh, yeah, man.
That was amazing.
I didn't even know street wrestling was a thing.
It really put me on your, it put me on your side like in a, you know, I'm already on your team as I'm watching it, but it put me on your side as like in a, just in like a real human kind of way, I feel like.
So I know you're not asking about that, but I'm just trying to give you just how I felt about during the documentary.
Now, there's some wrestling in our circuit, there's some, you know, there's some hot air balloons out there, and I want you to take a peek at this guy right here, Tom Shiguera.
Oh, yeah.
And he had this wrestling, this promo video that came out a while back, just about a month ago.
Wrestling fans, many names, comparing them to anti-baxters and flat earthers.
You've also said, quote, they have diminished capacities.
Could you explain what you meant by that exactly?
Would you like to take this moment to apologize?
Oh.
No.
I meant that they're stupid, they're poor, they're all beneath me.
You know, they're losers.
If they want to come, you know, maybe clean up my toilet or whatever.
I could spit on them while they're doing it.
Give them a little taste of the mystique.
Hey, Rick, you're so strong, you could even withstand the ankle lock.
Oh, it's true.
It's damn true.
Mr. Grick, what about the wrestlers themselves?
Some of them have reached out to you saying they used to be fans of yours.
Now they've been hurt by your remarks.
How do you respond to that?
Mission accomplished.
Get it, Mr. Grick.
What's up, Solstice?
Oh, that was you.
This is my parent solstice.
You know, we always enter the bring together.
Anybody who wants to get the turkey slicer, come at me, man.
Mr. Grick, you are never down to the count.
You are the best there is, the best there was, and the best there ever will be.
You just keep those genes high and tight and know that you are the excellence of execution in everything you do.
Do you think you can do what they do?
Wrestlers?
Yeah.
It's fake.
Why can't I win a fake fight?
Sign me up.
Let's rehearse.
And I'll whoop your fake ass.
That's what burned me.
That's what burned me that part.
Oh, yeah.
Did you guys have it out?
Yeah, I went back at him.
But that just...
It's not choreographed.
It's organized, but it's not fake at all.
Once you get in the ring, you'd be surprised how not fake, how real it is.
And often like people kind of teach you a lesson once in a while.
Because you're bleeding in the documentary.
Yeah.
That was a death match, though.
But even the backyard match, but you almost, there's always something.
It just hurts to take those bumps.
And I had three fractured ribs when I had to wrestle RJ City and a bunch of stuff.
Oh, man.
It's a good look with you as a wrestler.
Oh, I came back at him.
This is me coming back Mystic and I went more old school style.
Oh yeah.
Sigani here waiting for the racking tool.
I mean obviously it's got no respect for the business that Tom Sequel.
Racking.
A lot of smack being thrown around by Mystic Rick saying wrestling is fake.
What are your thoughts on that?
Oh smack.
Was it fake when I nabbed the gab out of that little Russia hunter, Mr. Michael Rapper?
Was it fake when I broke the spirit of that little Norwegian smut mannequin, Mr. Crystal?
Was that fake, Rick?
Was it fake when I put the dirty Unagi on little Bobby Miyagi?
Was that fake Ricky?
The only thing not real here is you, brother.
Yeah.
You little diet denier, starch addict, gout candidate.
I bet you can't even skateboard.
That was a personal thing.
Rick had some choice words for the fan.
I had to get him, man.
I had to go get him, man.
So I came right back at him because that's the part that hit me.
I think there's a certain element of people out there that don't understand when they call it fake, how it hits some people.
Yeah.
That's for sure.
Where does that hit you when they call it fake?
Oh, man.
You just don't understand how real it is until you get in there.
It really is.
it's getting crazier and crazier.
I'm not that it's, Like, I wrestle Cole Cabana.
It's one of my favorite matches.
And Ethan Page, these guys are super pros.
So even though they're making it real, it still isn't as painful as some of those other lessons people teach you.
You think you could beat the fat guy that was in the beginning of this?
The girl, yeah.
I mean, come on.
You think he has what it takes, actually, once he gets into the ring?
Do you think he could...
That's the thing.
No, you wrestle anyone.
We'll go on a very short limb and say, no, he is not.
Well, then it's just, it's kind of like something you usually shouldn't do, like, unless somebody's really training.
Because every wrestling match is as good as the most experienced person in there, you know, or the most, you know, like the most trained.
They don't have to have the most experience, but someone who really gets it can make you look good.
One of my best matches was with Jack Perry and Jungle Boy at AEW, and he's just so talented that he made me look like I could do things that nobody had ever...
I mean, it's certain things you're not really supposed to talk about or whatever.
Right.
But he's a super talented wrestler.
That's Luke Perry's son.
Oh, is it really?
Yeah.
God dang, he's damn beautiful, dude.
Yeah, he's great.
He's a movie star, this kid.
He's never smoked, never drank.
He's got a great head on his shoulder.
He's tough as nails.
He's better looking than about easily 60% of the women I've dated.
Easily, probably.
He's a great-looking guy, even the guy above him, right there.
Yeah, Luchasaurus, he's an amazing wrestler.
Wow.
He's good, you know, I don't know, 6'8, 6'10.
So you really have a love for this whole world.
I guess that's something when I got as I'm going through You Cannot Kill David Arquette that I'm like, okay, is this love?
Is this a real passion that he has for this?
Yeah, I love wrestling.
I've always loved wrestling.
Just sort of, I've always loved it as a fan.
Just kind of like, and then when the championship thing came, I was promoting Ready to Rumble.
They said, we'll put the belt on you if you can stay till the next pay-per-view.
I thought it was a terrible idea.
But Diamond Dow's page broke it down.
He's like, listen, well, you don't have to do it.
If you don't do it, then the promotion to Ready to Rumble is over.
The whole Ready to Rumble thing is over.
You won't be wrestling with us.
But if you do, you'll stay with us.
You'll travel with us.
You'll go, you know, do a pay-per-view.
And that's kind of what I really wanted.
I thought it would be really fun.
And I thought it would be taken more as a funny storyline rather than something so serious and kind of devalued the belt, which I understand now.
What do you feel like was more devaluing the fans that were saying this is using a guy from Hollywood, if you will?
Or critics that were saying this is not what somebody like David Arquette should be doing?
Yeah, I mean, I think part of it was I was an actor.
I was smaller than most of the wrestlers back in that time period.
Since then, you've had smaller champions like Daniel Bryan and Mike Mazanin.
Yeah.
I forgot.
Seth Rollins, sort of some guys.
Rey Mysterio is like kind of the first one.
Yeah, Remus cereal, yeah.
Hell, Henry Rollins could win a belt, I think, if you gave him – Oh, he's a tough guy.
But yeah, I don't know.
It was just sort of that I was an actor and I wasn't trained.
And they just didn't accept it as like this funny thing.
And then guys like Booker T had never been the champion or Scott Steiner.
So I asked Booker T in the locker room.
I said, how many times have you been the champ, Booker?
And he's like, never.
So I was like, oh, shit.
So then when I went out next, I went off script and I said, I don't deserve to be the champ.
Booker T deserves to be champion.
And he was the champ.
A few, like two, you know, the belt went to Jeff Jared and then I think it went to Booker after that.
So not that I had anything to do with it, but it's good to plant those seeds.
Yeah.
Did you, so did it, did it get weird?
Because then after you get the strap, did you start to feel ashamed of having it?
Are you like, holy shit, you go from excitement to then all of a sudden I still have this thing and I have to carry it.
You have to carry it.
You have to carry it from everywhere through airports every day.
You can't lose it or leave it in your car.
You can't leave it in your hotel room.
Like a baby in Georgia.
Yeah, you have to carry it every day.
They're heavy.
You're responsible for it.
And they're heavy.
And they're heavy.
Yeah, I just didn't know what the heck I was really doing.
Nobody told me really how to wrestle, how to do anything.
I'd just show up and they'd say, okay, you could.
Sometimes they'd hand you like literally pages of dialogue.
Like, I'm supposed to memorize this?
Like, this is more, it's way harder than people think, like cutting a promo, all that kind of stuff.
And a lot of it has to do with the thing people say that it's not real or something.
Because when people cut good promos, they're real.
Like, you have to find a place inside yourself that you feel this.
You can convey that.
You're angry at this person.
And you do the things that you do in an acting set where you're like, when you have to do something emotional, where you kind of go through in your head all of these really painful times in your lives.
And you get to a place where those emotions are like kind of right there.
And you have to do that with wrestling too.
You know, you have to make wrestling real for you, for what you're doing, for what you're conveying.
Like that's where wrestling is entirely real.
And then there's the level of like people's personal lives, what's going on, how they feel about you or how they feel about their own lives.
I mean, a lot of people are, when you're real pro, you can separate stuff like that.
But some people coming up don't.
Some people get overly excited.
You know, and then me being a beginner, it's mostly me that's getting like, you know, ahead of things or like, you know, not, you know, you've learned in wrestling to really slow down time.
Just kind of like, you know, allow moments to happen and like get hit and like really react to it.
And then look at an fan and just make a connection right there.
It's like, he's not going to do this to me.
You know, you just make it real and then it becomes real.
And when you can make wrestling really feel and the audience, you can capture them and then they're like, like while the match is going, like, oh, he almost made it.
And then you got him on the hook, you know, and then you just have to kind of reel him in.
Best way to reel them in is like do a few like things that they either don't see coming or a quick turnaround and then boom, you know, some big thing that makes them cheer.
And then, you know, you either get them to three count or you kick out.
But you should always end on sort of your biggest pop of the performance.
It sounded like he was describing stand-up.
No shit.
I think there's a lot of stuff.
Sorry.
No, no, no.
That was it.
That's a really good point.
I was trying to think of some of a correlation, and oddly, I couldn't even think of that.
But yeah, I guess, and you're taking me back now, too, also, to just being a fan.
I remember, man, when the guy would crawl over and get on top of the other guy, and finally, it's like good is going to beat evil, and everything is going to be okay in the world.
And then you're like, this ref has like a rotator cuff injury, and he can barely get his arm to go down.
And he gets stalled at the top, and some other ref has to come in and push his arm down.
But it's just like life.
It's like things just sometimes get so close.
And then there's just these chops and these ups and downs.
And, oh, man.
Yeah.
That's when it's beautiful.
That's when that's not fake, man.
Yeah.
And when you typically work with veterans, they know how to construct matches where it's like half the time I didn't even know what was going on.
Like, why are they putting that here?
I don't understand.
Why would I?
But then you see it all together and you start figuring out.
And then once you get used to it, then you can relax into stuff and you know certain things are coming, certain parts of the match, you know, the heat and all the sort of stuff that comes, how you construct a match.
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um there's a few a lot of different moves go into it but my finishing moves uh a diamond cutter like diamond dallas page now the because yeah because people wouldn't say that a ballet is fake people wouldn't say that a move i mean i guess yeah there's just there's almost a greek art to it or something absolutely there is it really is good against evil i mean that's what's happening like in the world right now it really is becoming a wrestling match oh you know we've got
heels and faces good guys and bad guys everybody i mean everything has turned we've been saying this for years that it's all turning into the wwe yeah everybody's cutting promos it's just like what is going on i know it's crazy everybody's cutting promos everybody's driving for uber it's just getting insane i know remember like when politicians they used to be like in a place somewhere like debating against each other now they're all just cutting promos on fucking twitter i know the whole views on
twitter thing is just crazy and like you know everyone in politics and everything are just a bunch of wrestlers going nuts it's everything man i remember one of the most beautiful things i ever saw though i was at the i was at the wrestling and they had a mexican gentleman a man i think he was a man him and his son were the same exact height so who knows how old either one of them was you know but they were both wearing a championship belt and
when the rock came back it was the night that the rock came back this is about eight years ago i think or maybe wow and when he came back they both started bawling crying together like just standing there i love that and it was just man it was that's real the night was great but that was probably the best thing that i saw yeah i love that that's that's the best part just that humanity um and the love for and it's it's because he took his son but his dad probably took him and
then you know his dad probably took his father you know that's what it is it's like some of these moments are just part of our history yeah that's what upset me so much like i i love wrestling i didn't want to be excluded from it or go with my wife and then have people like yelling at me i was just sick of it so i wanted to do something about it it's sort of also like everybody's got that feeling of like something they dream of doing
you know we all wanted to tap Into all that, like, you know, not letting people bull you, like, you know, going after your dreams, like, never giving up, like, put giving something everything you got.
And we didn't know where it would go, if it would, you know, if it would go to one of the bigger places or something, but it worked out that it was this perfect kind of full circle moment.
You mean this documentary?
Yeah, with the nasty boys just kind of like getting my back and accepting me as one of the guys.
Yeah.
Yeah, because it's interesting because I didn't even know today whenever we were coming in here.
I didn't know.
I didn't know if I should ask you in advance, like, how serious is this?
Is this like, you know, just a, I don't want to say a spoof, but no, it definitely gives it more depth to me knowing how you feel about it, you know?
Yeah.
And also one thing that's really cool is that you got to be, you've gotten to be a Hollywood star.
I mean, you've gotten to, the fruits of that stardom are really, I mean, it's, it's sketchy.
And I don't even know if there's that big, if there's that big of stardom these days.
There's a few people, but the, the idea of like, like stardom forever is very hard to have, I feel like.
Yeah.
Like at a level of like, you know, sometimes we think about it.
Yeah.
I mean, there's like eight or ten guys, you know, it's so.
They're really selective.
I mean, they have the, not the luxury, but they have the patience to be like able and just have it in themselves to really wait for the right project, you know, get the right directors and producers attached, make sure that that's the character that they want to play.
But they also have the luxury of maybe not working for a year or two.
Right.
Like I always, I grew up with a father who was a working character actor.
So I think it like got into me that it's like I'm a working actor.
Like I need to work.
So I'll do things that, you know, on paper people say like, why are you doing this kids show?
You know, just for whatever reason.
But it's all directly connected to just working, having a job, going and doing work.
Like I'm not comfortable sitting around all the time.
Yeah, I think you have to give up, but you also, it feels like you have to give up some of you have to give up some of what you want in Hollywood.
It seemed like at certain points, you know, like I got offered some things in the past year, and there was this animated project I got offered to be on this show called Hoops that just came out on Netflix.
And it just didn't, I kind of wanted to do my own animation thing and I didn't, and I just wasn't sure.
And so, you know, I had to say that it wasn't for me, even though it would have been probably fun and neat.
And I had to see it come out and be a little disappointed.
But then I also just had to remember myself because I'll just immediately start feeling bad.
Like, oh, man, I wasn't in it.
And my brain doesn't want to remember nine months ago when I was like, I just don't think I tried to make a choice for myself.
It's hard to do those choices.
It's hard.
I've seen them like to my detriment a few times, like not wanting to do something that turned out to be really great and really great group of people doing it.
Sorry, I'm burping over there.
It's okay.
These mics don't pick that up.
But that's diet soda, man.
I remember when I would see people drink diet sodas when I was young, I thought they were old.
That's what starts to scare me, dude.
I know, man.
I'm much older than you.
So it's like, it's really funny when you start looking back.
It's real, like, real.
It's real, yeah.
How crazy is it?
How much older you get once you hit like 39 or 40?
Yeah, there's, there's that 39 to 40. 39 to 50 is like a whole thing.
There are really cool things that happen to.
You start not caring nearly as much about stuff.
Oh, that's nice.
Yeah, it's really nice.
Not getting like, you start realizing where your anger comes from.
Like, it's like, oh, you start feeling it.
You can control it more.
Uh-huh.
And it's not like crippling like sometimes it feels like.
Oh, yeah, man.
I would like to have that less stress, dude.
I used to get, especially over women, bro.
Here's the crazy thing.
If you want to date a girl now and say she's younger than you, it's so hard because you can't talk about any music.
Oh, yeah.
You say like, oh, do you listen to it?
And a second you get halfway through that sentence.
You're like, fuck.
If I name a band that is like 15 years old right now, I'm going to sound so fucking old.
I know.
I don't know.
That whole world is.
You like the black crows?
And she's like, oh, I don't, you know, I don't know.
Like, what, are they at the San Diego Zoo?
And you're like, name them.
I don't know.
She's like, are they endangered?
It's just, it's so sketchy, bro.
Trying to like, trying to keep up with the Joneses of youth is impossible.
Yeah, it is.
It gets real sketchy.
And it also is like, I don't know.
You can meet the right people, but, you know, it's a lot of the time just pretty empty feeling.
You know what I equate a lot of that stuff to?
It's funny.
Everyone's doing Zooms now.
And at the end of a Zoom call, it's always like, oh, let's get to leave the meeting.
It's always like, it's almost like you're done fucking and you're like, oh, this feeling of like, here's my real face.
That's a good point.
Here's my real face.
And no one can ever find it.
It's like, all right, I love you.
And then it's just.
I have those moments.
I've learned how to sit in them a little more, the uncomfortable moments.
I did a show called Carter.
It came out apparently with Jerry O'Connell, who's a really good one.
I love Jerry Man.
He's so talented.
Dude, he's hilarious.
He has the best stories, bro.
He has the best stories.
He's just such a funny guy.
So we're sitting, we had a blast.
We were just joking the whole time.
But I went up to Canada to do a show, Carter, and then he was like, something happened on the set, and people were getting a little upset.
And he's like, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I was like, I looked at him.
I was like, what's up?
He's like, I think they're getting in a little argument or something.
I was like, yeah, they're in an argument.
Why are you getting all Jacked up about it.
And he just loved the fact that there was conflict.
And I was like, oh, wow, that's such like an interesting response.
Because my past response, just from being from a kid from a chaotic childhood or whatever, I'd get like super, like, I don't know, embarrassed or something.
Or like, I'd be off you like, oh, you know, why are they fighting?
That whole thing.
And I it's like such a kid response to it.
Yeah.
And now when you're able to kind of like not take it personally or it doesn't involve you and you know, they're having a conflict, you know, you don't have to solve it.
Yeah.
And you can kind of sit back and I can see how he, I don't know if I could ever enjoy it, but I could see how he could be relaxed about it.
Jerry's mickey has, he's eating popcorn as you look over.
He's fucking loving it.
Dude, he's so talented, man.
He has this story about growing up in, he grew up in New York during the AIDS epidemic or pandemic.
And he has this wild story about how half of the people in his building when he was a kid died.
And just how like every couple of weeks he'd come home and another neighbor would have died.
And just, man, it's just fascinating.
And he's such a gripping, when you, you know why he's a good actor because when you were talking to him, it is like you are in just an elevator into like another, like an elevator that goes forward right into his damn soul.
He's one of a kind.
Dude, that's fun, man.
Yeah, when I was, yeah, there he is right there with a guy, with Brendan Schaub right there.
And he's a guy.
But, dude, it's so funny.
When I was young, I used to feel so much like I'm responsible for everything.
Like, no matter, like, I would feel so much shame.
Like, I would feel so ashamed of everything that happened.
Like, if one of my family members did something and they was off or something, I would feel like it always reflected on me.
Like, every, I was just ashamed of everything.
I know.
That's a, it sucks.
Yeah, it super sucks.
I used to have this thing where I, I, I, like, discovered I was kind of a shame addict.
I was like an addicted to the feeling of like putting myself in a position where it was like either shameful or like, and I didn't want to, but I kept putting like calling into Howard Stern and then having to like apologize to people.
Or even maybe like what I just did with talking about Alyssa or whatever, just not meaning to, but it might be something in me that, why do I talk about somebody else?
You know what I mean?
I don't know what it is.
Is she going to get mad?
I don't know.
Not that I did it for any reason, but I don't know why my brain would do it sometimes.
Right.
Where I'd get into this thing just to be humiliated or something, which is a terrible thing to do.
It's like really painful place to be.
But dude, sometimes it's so funny.
I would love like, I remember one time inviting, I had two girlfriends, right?
And a huge rarity in my life.
And I invited them both to a bar.
Oh, gosh.
And I knew it was going to make me feel.
Some people would think, oh, this is going to be fun.
Cat fight.
These girls are going to go at it.
I just knew in hindsight looking back, I'm going to feel so fucking bad because I care about both these girls.
Both of them care about me.
And everybody's going to get their heart broken right now.
And I was just like, let's do it.
Yeah.
I know that feeling.
But looking back, like, yeah, it's like, man.
Yeah, I wonder if there's ways where my brain leads me into places to really feel not great about stuff, you know, without just because of old patterns.
Yeah, I do things to blow shit up a lot.
Like that thing sounds kind of like that.
Where you do something like with the specific intention of just blowing all the fucking shit.
Yeah, yeah.
Just to like, fuck it.
You know, go punk rock.
There's always been a little bit of a punk rock vibe.
I do that with work sometimes, man.
Even work stuff.
Yeah.
You know, like, because I've found in the past two years, like, I like to, I don't, I really didn't like in some ways working with others in some ways.
I didn't realize it.
I've just always kind of done things by myself.
And so I didn't realize until we had to start to work with others a little more that I have to, I don't know, it's not a reflection of me.
It's just a group thing.
But man, I would, I had such a just a visceral reaction to it, man.
And so I would, you know, I'd always, I don't know, I'd get up in the middle of the night and fucking rattle off an email that's like, oh, just like a bomb.
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
So that three hours later when everybody wakes up.
I know.
I did that stuff too.
Oh, God.
It's painful.
You like kind of a lot of the time you, and especially sometimes you're working with the kind of people that do it where they create issues and like problems where there are none just to like have a problem.
Yeah.
And then you have to deal with the problem.
I don't know.
Yeah, I'm like the David Blaine of complete fucking bullshit.
Like, guess what?
Ta-da.
Fucking bullshit.
Thanks.
Did you ever have any?
That was great.
Did you ever, because you talk a little bit about addiction and thing.
Do you talk about that kind of stuff?
Yeah.
I mean, I've had my battles with it.
So I've been like on this roller coaster.
Yeah.
It's a tough ride, kind of.
It's a really tough ride.
But it's a fun ride, though, too, I think.
It is.
I mean, it's fun when you learn, like, I don't know how not to do it.
I mean, it's just beating yourself up.
My adding is just like, literally, like in my wife asking me, do you just want to kill yourself?
It's like, no, but there's something inside of me that's trying to kill me.
Like, absolutely has no problem with it.
You know what I mean?
So you have to like, but then also like just not wanting to go there with my personal life.
Like, I don't know.
I like when I first sort of fell off the rails, it was kind of public.
I was like calling it outstretch and all this shit.
And I don't remember any of that.
I don't even know about any of that.
Oh, thank God.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
It's just like completely like, like regurgitating my life, you know, and just like.
Oh, yeah, but we do that here.
Yeah, we do that here.
Yeah, you do that here.
But it's your own place.
And it's like, you know, you're also not fucked up doing it.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, I would do that.
Dude, I had a night.
So I ended up on Opie and Jim Norton.
They used to have a show.
Yeah.
Opie and this was after OP and Anthony in Sirius, it was across from Howard, and a lot of times people would do the loop up there, and they'd be doing it.
So, I ended up one night all cocaine all night, driving a taxi.
The taxi driver's in the back.
He's in the taxi, right?
Wow.
Long night, dude.
Great time.
Yeah.
Get to the radio station.
I have to be on air at 6 a.m., bro.
Can't even, I mean, can't even feel my fucking face, bro, with either hand.
I tried both hands, right?
At first, I thought, oh, something's wrong with this hand, you know?
And then I tried feeling my face with this hand, and I knew something's wrong with my face.
And Daryl Strawberry's the other guest.
Oh, my gosh.
He's a good, he could help you through it.
Yeah, if anybody could help me through it.
But man, don't just put it behind your ear.
Don't get your feeling back.
There I am right there, blasted out of my brain.
Oh, my gosh.
Dude, I had done enough cocaine to freaking take Daryl Strawberry to extra innings, bro.
No doubt.
No kidding.
See you grinding away, dude.
Oh, man.
I lost a half inch in my mouth that day.
No, it's such a...
Yeah, it's the worst.
It really is just, I say it turns men into mice.
Yeah.
And it's fun, though.
That's the thing.
They put a little bit of fun in it.
Yeah, I mean, it's fun.
It's just so vapid, the fun.
It's all so like hot air.
It's just not.
They need to.
There's so many better ways to do it, but it just takes much, a lot more work.
You know, you just have to work to get those highs, but it just takes the work to get there.
And then it's like the culmination of all the work.
And then you have that fun time.
And then even the process of doing this stuff can be fun too.
Yeah.
Where you can get that life high.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, no, there's definitely a lot.
I mean, there's things I like now about definitely waking up and being able to handle my day.
Oh, hell yeah.
And like open my eyes up, have those little moments.
I'm sure it is with family and stuff too, especially.
And the more responsibilities I get in my life, the less I find myself wanting to do stuff like that, you know?
Yeah.
But so with the, so are you with the documentary?
And I don't know if I didn't watch the end because I just don't know how much like you want to share about like give it are you making a push now to get more to get more into wrestling?
Yeah.
I don't know.
I might wrestle more.
I did it mainly for this documentary.
So I kind of did what I set out to do.
Right.
If we wrestle some more, I mean, I love the world.
You know, I like wrestling with RJ City as my tag team partner.
So I don't know if I want to do it without like a tag team partner.
I always got in trouble without a tag team partner.
Yeah.
Unless it was with a pro like Cole Cabana or something.
And here's a guy right here.
He's probably alone.
Theo, what's up, David?
Seth from Kentucky here.
And my question for David is, who has more fun in the wrestling community?
Heels or faces?
You know, do you get to have more fun being that bad guy?
Or do you have more fun being the face of it all?
Gang, gang.
Gang, bro.
Gang, gang.
That's a good question.
Yeah, it is a good question.
The heels definitely have more fun within it.
Like, it's just, you know, heels represent like being chicken shits, being like backstabbers, having no spine.
You can just say the worst things.
You can just do all this stuff.
You can just, when you come from a place of that, it's weird when people get mixed up.
Like, some people get mixed up, like, they might be the heel, but they want to be tough in the match too.
And it doesn't work as well.
If you're, like, the audience gets more invested if you cheat to, like, hurt them or you do something like.
Right.
If you do a heel behavior.
Yeah.
Like, if you're going to be a heel, be a heel.
Yeah.
Yeah, exactly.
So, yeah, and then really be a heel.
So much so as, like, being chicken about stuff or cheating to win or like all that kind of stuff.
It happens a lot, man.
It's really just a reflection of life, you know.
It's just such a, it's such a, like whatever, I think it's called a Greek play or something where they do plays and it's, you know, in Greece or something, they, you know, it's like good and evil, you know.
It's just like that, man.
Yeah, for sure.
But I would love to see you beat the shit out of Mystic Rick, though.
Yeah.
Yeah, dude.
Do you guys have a little like a little promotion or something?
Does he have a belt?
Theo called him out and he never responded.
Oh, he called him out.
Rat King called him out and he never responded, man.
We had a belt that started years ago when they have a podcast called The Fighter and the Kid.
Yeah.
And they had a vote on their podcast for best guest or one of the best guests in the year.
And that guy got a belt.
So once the belt came into it, it came, that's the origin story of the belt.
And then, you know, we started taking on different characters and, you know, just, you know, I kind of like most of our fan base is really a bunch of rats, you know, not bad rats, but just like underdogs, you know?
Yeah.
Just right there with you.
Yeah, cheese hunters, you know?
So I feel it.
What else do you want to talk about, you think?
I don't know.
Did you ever do any jail time?
No.
I've never had a mug shot.
I've been pretty careful about certain things.
I've been wild, but.
Did you ever like wreck a car, really?
Really?
No, I never drove always.
I mean, I've driven once in a while, but I avoided it all very quickly.
Yeah.
Yeah, that's one of the main things.
That's really good, then.
Yeah.
Yeah, I never wanted to get in a situation where it hurt anybody.
Yeah, do you think that?
Yeah, I just wonder if I could handle one of those prisons or not, you know?
You think you'd be good in prison?
I don't know, man.
I hate to have to deal with it.
But, you know, we did a documentary called Survivor's Guide to Prison, which was really cool.
We produced it with Danny Trejo, it was a Matthew Cook film.
It was really great.
My wife really produced it, but that taught us a lot about the prison system, you know, how corrupt it is and how it needs to be changed.
But actually, being in there, that would be something else.
I mean, I taught an acting class at San Quentin a couple of times.
Yeah?
Yeah.
So good actors in there?
It was cool.
It was weird.
I had them do this improvisational game called Animal Transformation, where you pick an animal and then you transform it into like, all right, let's put, you know, you're a giraffe and you're a run rhinoceros.
Rhinoceros?
Yeah.
I was about to say that.
I thought you were going to say Ryan Reynolds.
You're a giraffe and you're Ryan Reynolds.
I've watched that.
But you bring him up to like human form, but still maintain the characteristics.
So like this dude would be a, you know, like a rhino or whatever, and there goes up to the giraffe, but it was like kind of aggressive because rhinos seem aggressive.
And then the guard was like, stop, stop, stop, you got to stop.
And he explained to me, like, they could get into this little acting thing right here, but then they could go out and like get in a huge fight on the yard if like someone disrespects each other.
There's like all this code and all this stuff.
So I'd hate to have to learn that stuff, but you know, I get by.
But do you think when you think about prison, like, do you think, what parts of prison do you think you would enjoy?
I don't know, man.
You like a small room?
I like a small room.
I like characters, so I'm sure there'd be some characters in there that I'd kind of hit it.
I like the kind of joking that happens in places like that or at school or in like, you know, places where people are all hanging out and not bored, but have time on their hands.
It's just like hanging out with your homies.
Like, you know, when you're growing up, the guys you grew up with, the way you can joke with them is like, you know, a great feeling.
Yeah, why do we lose that as we get older?
I mean, that disappears, doesn't it, in a lot of ways?
It does.
You have to kind of stick with those guys.
When you go back home, you probably have friends like that, right?
Yeah.
I'm on a couple text chains like that, but you never can really replicate that, just that childhoodness of it where somebody doesn't have to.
Now people have responsibilities and somebody, you know, they owe somebody money or there's some bullshit or something.
Yeah, totally.
But I love Brody.
That's.
Yeah, man.
One of a kind.
He just had a birthday the other day.
Oh, did he really?
Yeah.
He's awesome.
I knew him for a while.
We hired him on a show called Midnightly News to warm up the audience back in the 90s or something.
One thing that I loved about him was his...
I think he just always had this ability to make you feel kind of...
He was such a scared dude, but he always would really kind of go out of his way to kind of make you feel included, you know?
Man, talk about being a loving person, but finding it really hard, I feel like to express your love in like normal ways and stuff.
Yeah, totally.
Man, he was a warrior, man.
I still cannot believe that suicide, it's just crazy how it just sneaks in.
Like in an instant, almost.
Yeah, it's sad when people can't do it anymore.
I get it.
But I also get it sometimes, man.
I get it.
But there's like you have to fight through these hard times because there is beauty on the other side.
Yeah.
This is a really dark time right now, just in general.
A lot of people are scared.
A lot of people are losing loved ones and don't know where there's, you know, where their bills are going to get paid from.
So it's really scary at this time, but you have to know that we will make it through this.
Yeah.
And we will have fun on the other side.
And there's little things that come like as you get older that are really beautiful little things.
And it's just literally like catching, you know, tadpoles with your kids or like the wind on your hair.
Like, you know, you get an appreciation for certain things.
Getting a snack, anything, something small.
I know.
When you can really like sit there like, oh, this grape tastes great.
Like, you're like in a place where you're taking a moment to appreciate a grape.
Yeah.
It's like, oh, this is different because you're not like as wound up about the world.
Yeah, man.
It's tough, dude.
I made a gratitude list this morning.
I'm trying to get back more into gratitude.
Just be thankful for the little things.
That's the best, man.
That's such a key.
It gets so tricky.
Yeah, I think, so, yeah, I feel like so.
Yeah, after watching the doc, I felt like it was, it's really kind of a, I guess it really does kind of stand as a story of like setting a goal and kind of, do you feel like it's getting a monkey off your back?
A little bit.
I mean, it definitely, you know, the thing I learned was that it was me.
Like, I had this one therapy session with my therapist and I was like talking about my mom and dad and how heavy like their marriage and relationship was.
And then I was like, wait, they're both dead.
It's like literally this heaviness is just inside me and they're gone.
So like to work to lift that was really helpful.
You're like David DuCoveny, but I feel like the X-Files are on the inside.
I'm telling you, it is.
We all have to figure out all this stuff going on inside.
It's so crazy, bro, how much crazy baggage we carry, man.
I know, man.
Yeah.
And then I will swim in it.
I will make a fucking swimming pool out of my baggage and then dive right into it.
I know.
When there's tons of other things to go do.
People are like, hey, come get on this water slide.
Come get on this Fairswill.
I'm like, nah, nah.
I just made this amazing swimming pool with all my own bullshit.
Yeah, let's just go in there for a while.
Oh, it gets to me after a while.
What else we got, Nick?
We had a written question that came in.
It said, when will we see Chuck Hank and the San Diego Twins?
You're Telling me, this is a movie I did like eight years ago, and it still hasn't come out.
I just have no idea.
I was so impressed by this group of filmmakers because they all had cameras, they're all shooting.
I was like, You have like eight cameras, like nobody has eight cameras unless you're doing a sitcom, and then uh, so they're shooting it, and they're like having all these angles, they're all filmmakers, they're all editors, and then the movie disappears for a year.
There's a rumor that it's still going to be done, but I just don't know.
What causes that kind of stuff when something disappears?
What caused that?
It could have been any kind of thing.
Usually, like, there's a falling out between the filmmakers, and then one person's either in charge of it and then just doesn't, like, complete it, or they're just tied up, so they're sort of push-pulling.
I don't know.
There's all kinds of things.
Yeah.
What about you?
What are you interested in doing?
I'm thinking about getting a dang dog recently.
Yeah, man, that's a real...
Have you had one before?
Oh, no kidding.
Like, do you know what kind of dog you've been looking?
I think everybody kind of has a Labradoodle right now.
Yeah.
So I've been thinking about that kind of.
I feel like they have nice kind of eyebrows kind of.
Yeah.
But do you need a bigger dog for any reason?
I don't really.
I was thinking also a black lab.
Then also, a friend of mine has a Dachshund wiener dog.
Yeah.
And man, he was nice.
Yeah, little dogs are.
The difference is big dogs are dope because they're big dogs and like they're I don't know.
But little dogs are amazing too.
I've had both.
Little dogs are just fun because for someone like you, you can almost bring them anywhere.
Yeah.
And then you become the guy with the dog, but that's the whole thing.
But if you love this dog and he's really easy and he can be here, like it'd probably be like fun for you.
Yeah.
Bigger dogs are harder to bring.
Like they're harder to bring on trips.
They're just harder to manage, but they're incredible.
We have four Bassett hounds, which is big.
That's like a rich old looking dog.
They're big dogs.
They're like medium-sized dogs, but they got little dog legs.
So they're short to the ground.
Oh, Bassett hounds have the long with the long ears.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
Those are fun dogs.
Those are good southern dogs, too.
Yeah, I wouldn't mind.
I'm trying to think of maybe what to get.
I don't know.
I went to a man's house yesterday, and he had two bunnies, too.
Oh, no.
Yeah.
That's cool.
But that's a big responsibility.
Is that what you're kind of like?
Yeah, I'm thinking about that.
Now, there you go right there.
That's beautiful.
Oh, and look at that undercarriage, huh?
They got some real meat on them.
Yeah, they have rolls of skin when they're like real past the house.
But they're pretty well-behaved?
Yeah, I mean, some of like they're all individuals, so some of them are better behaved than others.
I mean, they all have their own personalities, but you know, they howl and bark a lot, these guys.
Some of them don't as much, but that's just something to think about if you have to leave them in your apartment or house for a little while.
Sometimes the barking can be a whole thing, or like get babysitters.
Yeah, that's what I would think.
Maybe getting a frame with the yard or something.
Yeah.
But yeah, what else?
I don't know.
I want to take some Brazilian jiu-jitsu, actually.
Yeah, man.
That's amazing.
Do you have a guy?
I don't have a guy, but we have a guy, Eddie Bravo, that trains people.
Oh, you did?
Oh, that's dope.
He's dope.
But we don't know.
But I don't know.
I trained with Higan Machado during this whole thing.
Oh, really?
He's amazing, bro.
So you've taken it?
Yeah.
You enjoy it?
Just not like belts or anything, but just for exercise.
Hell yes, it's important to learn that shit.
Yeah, that's what I want to learn.
Just I think like kind of working on that confidence, that inner confidence of just, you know, feeling a little more comfortable.
Yes, that's what any of that stuff will do for you.
Like I it's funny that I got a brown belt in Yoshikai karate, but it was I never got a black belt.
I had like one more thing that my sensei moved to Florida.
So I'm stuck with the brown belt, but it's kind of perfect.
Dookie colored belt.
But what it does teach you, like once you get into it and you're like training a lot and doing it as an exercise and stuff, like your balance and everything, you're like, you learn all this kind of like little ancient tricks with life that are just like really kind of cool when you learn all the like katas and all the stuff.
It'll just prepare you for kind of stuff like that.
And then jiu-jitsu is a whole other beast, which is amazing.
It's so fucking cool.
Yeah, it seems cool.
I just always have this dream like I'm somewhere, you know, I'm at a subway or something.
I didn't want to go, but somebody took me, you know, because I don't like it.
But, and then somebody like, some guy's like, hey, you know, what the fuck is wrong with you, you know?
And I'll be like that, you know, and then next thing you know, I have to fucking defend myself, dude.
First of all, man, I don't really probably want to be in a fight.
Second of all, I do not want to fight in a subway, bro.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, at least beat my ass at a five guys, you know?
So, but I want to be able to at least like know that if something happens, like, I don't have to feel like I don't have a chance, you know?
That's, I feel like that when I was young, that's always the feeling that I had, man.
Every kid was like tougher than me, I felt like.
I know that feeling.
I was like, I don't have a chance, dude.
I'm going to go hide in this tree or I do something fucking gag, make a kite or something.
Be like, what in the fuck is wrong with this kid?
You know?
Yeah, nowadays you have to be careful fighting just because some people, like a lot of people, do know that kind of stuff.
Oh, yeah.
Everything going on.
Henry Sejudo.
You know, if you saw Henry Sejudo somewhere regularly, you'd beat him with a stick, probably it'll candy come out.
Bring up a picture of him.
But he is a legend.
Yeah, I mean, he's, you know, is he undefeated?
No, he lost to Demetrius once.
And then he, I think that might be his only lost.
He beat Demetrius the second time.
But even if you just get a picture of him, Nick.
I was trying to get him where he's not.
Or how tall he is.
I mean, I think he's 5'2.
Oh, yeah.
But he's the ch- I mean, he won three belts, I think.
Oh, man, that's tough.
That's tall.
Yeah, there he is compared to some other guys.
Some white.
No kidding.
Yeah, that's actually the big show.
The big shells is almost seven feet.
Have you ever been slammed by any of those real big guys?
Um, he bully race slammed me through a table.
Hell yeah.
Put my hips out.
Yeah, dude.
That's what my back, like what would happen with me is like either my neck or my back would go out constantly.
So then I'd just be jacked up for the next week or so.
It sucks.
Oh, it's so brutal sport.
And would you get those shots?
Would you get some shots to help it?
No, I wish.
Like they probably have that stuff at WWE, but then the independent circuit, they don't even have an ambulance.
Hopefully we'll have like a first aid kit.
Well, yeah, on the independent circuit, man, I remember growing up, they had some dudes bus fighting, man.
It would be people in their backyard, and this is before people wouldn't even videotape it.
People would draw a picture of it and show it the next day.
You know, this was back arrest of the man.
And people would just put a bunch of picnic table.
I mean, it was choppy.
It was just extremely dangerous, too.
But, yeah, you know, people's stepdads and family disputes.
One man threw another man into a damn ditch fire bus one time.
Pretty cool, man.
Oh, yeah.
Fire is intense.
What else we got, Nick?
I had a question about the independent wrestling circus.
Is it still kind of the wild, wild west with like some of the performance enhancers?
Because I watched Ready to Rumble last night just because of this.
And Mr. Perfect, Kurt Henning, Macho Man, and then I don't think me and Gene was on anything, but all three of those guys have passed away.
And it seems like there's not wrestlers that get over 60 or whatever, and you keep hearing about dying.
Or is it still kind of that unhealthy?
Well, obviously it's bad for your body, too, but I feel like the steroids back in the day definitely played a part.
For sure.
I don't know how prevalent steroids are.
I think when John Cena came up, it was like real, from that point on, there was real more of a focus on body and like strength training and working out.
Also, some of the guys, kind of, the stature guys kind of fell down.
So it's not as big, giant.
But there's a few guys that are really super buff, and I don't know if they take anything or not.
I never did.
I always like the kind of body that like a Bruce Lee has, where it's more ripped than anything.
You know what I mean?
And if you can lose enough weight, you got muscles under there.
So once you lose the fat, it kind of looks bigger anyway.
Yeah.
And then you learn little things like, you know, eating protein right, you know, right after you, within the first half hour of doing weight helps a lot to build muscle.
Yeah, he's like the baddest.
And he's not like huge, but he's.
Did you ever meet him?
Nah, I never got to meet him.
But we were huge fans growing up.
And I met his daughter who was really nice.
Really?
Was she hot?
Yeah, she's beautiful.
She's just sweet.
Yeah, Bruce Lee's daughter.
She just like has like a cool air to her.
You could tell.
You gotta be.
Can you imagine being Bruce Lee's daughter and you're just fucking, you know?
A dick?
But it happens.
I mean, there's some people that just get caught up with this whole world.
I know.
I know.
I bet, especially in the world that you've seen, man, really being into Hollywood, it gets really kind of vapid out there.
Yeah, it does.
I mean, there's a lot of shit that happens.
I've been in the business 30 years, so.
That's crazy, man.
Yeah.
I mean, how old are you?
I'm 40 years old.
Oh, you are?
Yeah.
You seem to be so young.
So I'm getting older, man.
I'm an adult now.
40, it's so cool.
It's a cool age, so it's when stuff starts not, you'll get, you figure your world out.
Yeah.
I like the idea of stuff not having, being so strat, like, you know, not being so serious.
Yeah.
I do too.
I think that battle will always, that'll go on forever.
I mean, especially just dogs and kids and all that stuff if you want to have them.
There's just, there's a lot of shit that comes with them, but then there's also like the most silliest stuff you'll ever do.
You know what I mean?
Which is then becomes the funnest stuff you'll ever experience.
Yeah.
When you look back on being a wrestling champion, do you look back on it fondly?
Yeah.
I mean, just to be part of this world, the world that I always loved, I look at that fondly.
You know, you know, with all my griping about stuff, it's wrestling.
So I use it all in the movie.
You know what I mean?
I mean, I'm a fan of Andy Kaufman.
That's part of this whole thing.
You know what I mean?
It's just part of the things that I love.
So it's like, I do look at it fondly.
I mean, especially with sort of coming back and like, who knows if this is the end of it?
You know, who knows if there will be some other kind of wrestling adventures.
Yeah.
What do you see?
Are there other, I mean, do you still have a lot of stuff?
Obviously, you want to get into stuff that you can make more that's your own.
Do you feel like yourself getting more motivated towards that kind of?
Yeah, for sure.
I mean, that's what I do with my spare time in between waiting for something or auditioning for something.
Just sort of, yeah, work on projects that I believe in.
And have you done any movies in space, man?
I could really see you in space.
Yeah, I would love to.
I would love that.
I mean, how cool would it be to be like the first film shot in space?
That would be the baddest.
I would love that.
Yeah, I think it would be, I mean, I don't know.
Space, we keep going to these shitholes, man.
Mars, the moon.
Like, look, I'm no fucking, I'm no real estate agent.
Well, these places.
I don't know why the moon, they don't already have like a Disney world up there.
I know nobody would like it.
It'd be upsetting for some people, but I think it'd be amazing.
Oh, I think something small you could stop in, at least a rest area, you know?
But yeah, it seems like we keep going to these shitholes, bro.
Mars is, let's be honest, bro.
Places are shithole.
I'm not a real estate agent, but every picture you see, it's like, this place is garbage, dude.
There's fire everywhere.
There's no place you can even fucking, you can't even, you couldn't even have an outdoors.
It's just, I don't know.
Palm Springs.
Yeah.
It's like a fucking.
They can build it up.
It's like Palm Springs' dirty grandfather.
you know, it's just like, why don't we let's find a decent planet or quit fucking around, man.
You know, spend the money, send a shuttle into fucking Zaire and let's fucking habitate over there, you know?
Like, I just feel like if we need to work more locally, look at this.
Coming on, dude.
Oh, yeah.
And you got dumb chicks and dudes and chews out there sitting around saying, oh, man, think we'll ever live on Mars like idiots at a fucking bar somewhere.
You know, you got one-third of the BW, Buffalo Wild Wings population sitting there four beers deep.
Man, wonder if we'll ever live on Mars.
You know, place a shithole, man.
Sorry, I just want to know Mars thing.
Yeah, I didn't know anybody was going to be here when I felt like this, but it's just kind of just making me mad, man.
We just got bigger fish to fry, dude.
But I want to see some more of these promos.
I want to see more of these wrestlers cut promos.
I want to see more politicians cut promos.
Dude, I'm telling you, one politician puts out a dope-ass wrestling promo, I feel like they would get all the votes.
They would get a lot of votes.
I had one friend who was voted for Trump because he provided, you know, WrestleMania at his casinos.
I was like, you can't vote for that reason, though.
You just can't.
Not for that reason.
Dude, it's crazy.
I mean, the whole world is so crazy.
I got to say that, man.
Yeah.
You know, people act like she's not hot.
Like, I'll pretend a lot of stuff, but I'm not going to pretend that she's not hot, dude.
That's insane.
Yeah, I can imagine.
I mean, you have to have...
Was there a point where you didn't want to really do some of that stuff?
No, not really.
I mean, when you get hot, you get a lot of offers.
So then it's like you have to kind of sift through the good stuff.
But when you're not, you just kind of like are trying to find good projects to work on.
Yeah.
So it's typically low-budget things that you don't get paid for.
You never know how they're really going to turn out if they ever come out at all.
Yeah.
Yeah, I've been offered a couple of real wild animals.
But I don't know, man.
We'll see, you know.
I would love to do something where, you know, a friend of mine, a black friend of mine, said that black people and aliens don't get along well.
Or there's beef.
There's so much space in the aliens.
There's a new, or there's like beef in that community.
And so I'm like, wondering.
Yeah.
That's amazing.
So I'm like wondering, how do we get that film?
You know, I'll be like some guy that's like, you know, some guy that works for the United Nations or whatever.
But I'm just thinking, how do we get to see that?
You know, because I'm ready to see that.
That's good.
Get a treatment, outline, and a script.
Yeah, Brothers versus Aliens, dude.
I'm ready to freaking.
There's no way I wouldn't watch that.
That's amazing.
So, all right.
Well, David, I appreciate you coming in, man.
Thanks for having me, man.
I'm a big fan of your comedy, and I appreciate you.
Well, I definitely remember the day that you said hey to me at the gym, it made me feel really good.
I remember telling one of my friends, like, dude, I got to meet David Arquette today.
It was awesome.
But yeah, I was happy to watch the documentary, man.
I'll watch the end now that I know it's safe to.
And you guys will have to check out You Cannot Kill David Arquette.
Thank you so much.
And just stay alive, I guess, right?
And we'll see a sequel.
That's it.
I'll be alive.
I can't die.
Can't kill me.
Now I'm just footing on the breeze.
And I feel I'm falling like these leaves.
I must be cornerstone.
Oh, but when I reach that ground, I'll share this peace of mind I found.
I can feel it in my bones.
But it's gonna take a little time for me to set that parking break and let myself hold my heart on my shine.
I'll sit and tell you my stories Shine on me And I will find a song I will sing it just for you And I will find a song I will sing it just for you I've been moving way too fast on a runaway train with a heavy load of past.
And these wheels that I've been riding on, they're walls so thin that they're damn near gone.
I guess now they just weren't built to lay.
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