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July 6, 2020 - This Past Weekend - Theo Von

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E285 Dodgers Pitcher Walker Buehler

Dodgers All Star pitcher Walker Buehler in studio talking the new Covid MLB season and what to expect, and answering all Theo’s questions about the game. Check out Theo’s other show King and the Sting https://bit.ly/KATS75_Slices ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- New Merch https://theovonstore.com ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- This episode is brought to you by… The Zebra https://thezebra.com/theo Betterhelp ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Music “Shine” - Bishop Gunn http://bit.ly/Shine_BishopGunn ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hit the Hotline 985-664-9503 Video Hotline for Theo Upload here: http://bit.ly/TPW_VideoHotline ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Find Theo Website: https://theovon.com Instagram: https://instagram.com/theovon Facebook: https://facebook.com/theovon Facebook Group: https://facebook.com/groups/thispastweekend Twitter: https://twitter.com/theovon YouTube: https://youtube.com/theovon Clips Channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCiEKV_MOhwZ7OEcgFyLKilw ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Producer Nick https://instagram.com/realnickdavis See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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	Coming up on his third season as a starter for the Los Angeles Dodgers, here to talk about the revamped Major League Baseball season and what that's going to look like.
	It's my friend and all-star pitcher, Mr. Walker Bueller.
	Set that parking brake and left myself on my side.
	Shine that light on me.
	I'll sit and tell you my stories.
	Shine on me.
	And I will find a song I've been singing just before.
	And now I've been...
	Would you get a beagle?
	We've got a boycott.
	It's like a little brown beagle.
	And what can it do?
	Can it jump high or anything?
	Oh, wow.
	Huntsman.
	Really?
	Now, how much training goes into training like a hunting dog?
	I'm going to send it away.
	You have to send it away for like six months.
	No way.
	Out of America or no?
	No, to that breed's like all South Carolina, so you send it there or Huntsville, maybe.
	Dude, I'd send that little vessel to Japan, dude.
	Have him come back like a little ninja, you know?
	They wouldn't know what ducks are looking for.
	That's true.
	That's true.
	That's true, dude.
	But he'd be able to sneak into somebody's house at night, though.
	For sure.
	Real quiet.
	Ninja hunting dogs.
	He'd be able to use a sword.
	You'd be like, dang, that's the only dog that can use a sword, man.
	Walker Bueller, you guys are back in training camp.
	Now, what do you guys, what does baseball call it?
	Well, I've heard summer camp, which is an interesting one.
	It sounds like I'm going to swim in a lake or something.
	But no, I think kind of spring training 2.0 is what they're kind of going with.
	And so you were saying you had a place out here in LA, and then you had to get, you had to, you were ready to come back for the season, right?
	And then you had to just nix it.
	Yeah, so for us, we kind of get six, eight-month leases, just try and find somewhere for the season.
	And then I got wrangled into a 10-month lease because I really wanted this place.
	And it was up in the hills.
	And it was like, this is my last round, my first part of my rookie deal.
	So I was like, all right, I'll just get the cool one.
	Spend a little extra time.
	I'm going to splurge a little bit.
	And then we're not here for three months.
	So, no, I got lucky.
	Somebody leased it out and I got to find another place.
	But, yeah, we were a little disappointed.
	Dang.
	And so the time at home, were you like uncertain up until the last minute?
	Or is the players like who's communicating with the players?
	Like, we're going to do something.
	We're not going to play.
	We are.
	How does that work for you guys?
	Yeah, so we have, obviously we have our big players union, right?
	But we have like a rep for each team.
	And of course, I got thrown into being our rep two weeks before baseball ended up coming back.
	So I jumped into this stuff like way late.
	Yeah, so it was JT, and now I'm our rep, but I've been kind of just sitting back, chilling, waiting to hear when we're going to play.
	And then two weeks before everything kind of came together, it was like, hey, Walk, now you're talking for us.
	So a lot of group me's, a lot of said, hey, what do you guys think?
	Yeah, it's pretty complicated, all the shit, you know, all the stuff that goes into it that I didn't even really know about.
	And then it's like, hey, you're right in the middle of it.
	So it's been a little bit of a learning curve, kind of, huh?
	Oh, for sure, for sure.
	Yeah.
	And what's going to be different about the season?
	So the season is happening.
	And you guys are in spring training, summer camp 2.0 right now.
	And what's going to be different about the season?
	Well, first off, they're telling us that you can only have a certain amount of guys in the dugout, which is weird because we all sit in there and hang out and bullshit and whatever during the games.
	So now they're saying if you're not playing, you have to sit in the stands.
	So there are going to be fans in the stands.
	Except they're going to be us wearing our full uniforms.
	Oh, I was going to say, you should be allowed to change into something more relaxing.
	Right.
	I mean, it's, yeah, it's odd.
	I talked to Kirsch the other day and I told him, they also said we can go home, which is like not something that has ever been okay.
	So I told him, hey, I may never watch you.
	They're alive all year.
	And he's like, what are you talking about?
	I said, I'm just going to sit in the pool and watch you on TV if I can leave.
	Oh, because you wouldn't even have to be there because usually the bullpen's there and stuff.
	Right, the bullpen will still be out there, but us, we'll just, starting pitchers usually sit right there in the dugout and kind of hang out.
	So if we can leave.
	Dan, it's almost like you think you'll miss that part?
	Yeah, you know what's weird is in Asia.
	That's like standard operating procedure for them.
	So they leave what?
	Like if they're not pitching, they're not there?
	Yeah, they go in during the afternoon, get their stuff done.
	An hour before the game, they just head out.
	But we had a Korean guy, Hunjin Roo, that he hated watching games because he'd never done it in his whole life.
	And then he comes to America and expected to stay forever.
	Dude, I'm not kidding you.
	That guy would be out of the locker room within five minutes of the last out.
	I don't even think he showered at the field.
	I think he just threw shit on a roll.
	No, he's like, I'm not even getting paid for this overall.
	He's like, I want to go to dinner.
	Wow, that's crazy.
	I went to actually a baseball game one time in Japan.
	Really?
	Yeah, it's pretty cool.
	I went to one in Japan and I went to one in Cuba once.
	Cuba?
	Yeah, I went to, I was in this school, like this school program, and we got to go abroad.
	And one of the things we got to do when we were there was go to baseball.
	Interesting.
	Yeah.
	I got to play in Cuba for a week.
	Wow.
	Yeah.
	So I guess they have some sports diplomacy law or something.
	At that time, we were the only Americans ever allowed in there.
	Yeah.
	And so we went and we lost all five games.
	I was really happy about that.
	Well, maybe subliminally, I don't think you really want to win over there.
	Right.
	But we had a good time.
	It was fun.
	Dang.
	And do you notice anything different?
	Like about, do you notice anything different about the way that they play or anything?
	Yeah, I will tell you the big, the weirdest thing that they do.
	So you know how like if you strike somebody out, they throw the ball around and it just goes once to the third baseman to the shortstop to second baseman and they throw it back to the pitcher.
	That's how they do it here in the U.S.?
	Yes.
	Okay.
	In Cuba, they make 30 throws.
	They throw it to the catcher.
	The pitcher will get it, throw it back to the shortstop.
	The games take away the ball.
	That kid in major league gets it.
	He throws it in the home plate.
	The fan gets a toss one.
	I mean, it's wild.
	Really?
	Yeah, and the games took like 30 minutes longer because they're just flinging the ball around after every strikeout.
	That's pretty wild.
	I remember one time, actually, because one of the things I was doing When I was traveling, I went to on this thing called semester at Sea, and it was like a school that goes on a ship and takes you to different countries when you're a student.
	And so we went to Hong Kong.
	And so I remember just walking around during the day and playing pickup basketball games and stuff.
	And the thing that they do there, like in that was different, after somebody scores, they like run it back.
	Like whoever gets out of the net runs it.
	You don't dribble it or pass it up.
	You run it up to the top of the key and then start the game again.
	Yeah, it's really bizarre, dude.
	And they would kind of frown on you.
	Like if you threw it up there, they would kind of throw it back and you had to like run it.
	Like, hey, stop.
	It was like, and it feels weird just to run with a basketball, you know?
	Yeah, so you're playing running back.
	Yeah, yeah, it feels like a crime.
	But I remember that was like the strangest thing that I remember that was just like a sport in a different country.
	I don't think I've ever heard that.
	So with the dugout, say in a regular game, you know, can you go over to the other team's dugout?
	No.
	If you do that, normally there's a fight involved.
	I don't know if you saw last year, there was a guy named Amir Garrett who pitches for the Reds.
	He played basketball at St. John's.
	He's this big, tall dude, reliever for the Reds.
	Right.
	And they were Reds and Pirates had this whole beef all year.
	He just ran directly at their dugout, one on 30. They started throwing bombs at people.
	I played with that catcher too, Kyle Farmer.
	He seemed like he's ready to cause a little trouble too, man.
	Georgia boy Get out of here blue Alright here we go Oh yeah look at this We just got Georgia We just got Georgia Booy's been traded so much, huh?
	He seems like that girl in the NBA that everybody bangs.
	I couldn't remember a name.
	Okay, hey, we're gonna need someone.
	We're gonna need someone.
	So they came to get him out of there.
	And then he said, all right, come on.
	They have three guys.
	Kirk comes out.
	This guy comes out.
	This guy.
	That's a bad boy.
	I think that one full-on.
	Ooh, he's got it a slap.
	Look at them all.
	I love the cop that's not even looking.
	It's like the riot.
	Yeah, it is a little bit, man.
	That's as good as it gets in a baseball brawl.
	So if you're on the mound, right?
	Now, usually it seems like the pitcher is kind of the one that starts the brawl.
	Yeah, it usually boils down to somebody getting hit.
	So the pitcher is always involved.
	Now, me being a smaller guy, we do rehearse my moves if anything like that ever happens.
	Like, what do you mean, like, you rehearse your moves?
	Well, somebody's going to run at me if I ever get into one of these situations.
	Okay, so, yeah, because you'll hit them on accident.
	Yes.
	Okay.
	And then, so they'll come at you.
	So you haven't kind of rehearsed what to do then?
	Right, because they're going to be bigger than me.
	Right.
	Right.
	Because I'm small.
	Right.
	So we've boiled down.
	I either have to slowly creep, wait for the corner infielders to come and get them for me.
	Right.
	Or I got to go with a drop kick.
	Okay.
	Those are really my only two options.
	I think it's a side, you know, it's a mass thing.
	I just can't.
	Yeah.
	Or you just fling the glove.
	That one's been done before.
	How do you, here move this a little closer, if you don't mind.
	How do you, so, because your size, like, how does your size compare to some of the pitchers that are out there?
	Because Kershaw is way taller than you.
	Yeah, Kershaw is about two inches taller, but he's about 40 pounds heavier than me.
	Okay.
	30 pounds heavier than me.
	I'll give him the benefit of the doubt there.
	Yeah, I'm just, I'm skinny, you know, compared to most guys.
	Most guys are pretty thick.
	And does one of your arms weigh more than the other one of your arms or not?
	You know, I don't know.
	I think they're probably pretty close.
	I would imagine the right one's a little bit bigger just because the extra ligament in there.
	So maybe a couple ounces heavier.
	Because you got an extra ligament put in?
	Yeah, so I tore the one, but they left it and put a new one in there.
	Where did they get that one from?
	They cut it right on my wrist.
	And is that Tommy John's surgery?
	That's Tommy John.
	Okay.
	So Tommy John surgery is in the...
	Oh, wow.
	But they cut...
	I've got it on that one, but not on this one because that's what they cut out and put back in my elbow.
	Wow.
	So yeah, because I always thought Tommy John was a shoulder.
	It's not.
	No, that's Tommy John's the elbow.
	Labrum or rotator cuff is a shoulder.
	That's a bad deal.
	It is?
	Yeah, Tommy John, they're like 90% with now.
	You're probably going to be fine.
	Labrum's still like 50%.
	Do you know if you, is there a certain life expectancy on those parts of a pitcher's body where you like, okay, like an almost like an oil change?
	Okay, at three years, I got to take it in for this.
	And then at nine years, I got to take it in for this.
	Yeah, you hope you never have them.
	Like Kershaw's never had an elbow or anything like that.
	But once you have one, they say you got about eight years with that new ligament, and then they'll have to do something to keep it going.
	But I'm on your five on my new one, so we're hoping it'll exceed those numbers.
	And did you feel different once you got it in?
	Oh, yeah.
	I started throwing four or five miles an hour harder.
	No way.
	Oh, yeah.
	You got 12 months of rehab, so you just sit there and lift and watch baseball and play golf, basically.
	And then I started throwing way harder, and then I got to the Big Leagues really quick after that just because it made the game a lot easier.
	Oh, you got it in college?
	I got it right after I signed in the pros.
	Okay.
	So, because I know you're from Kentucky, and that's where you live now also, right?
	Yep.
	And then you went to Vanderbilt.
	Yep.
	Three years there.
	And then that's when you get into the pros.
	Yep.
	So you get drafted after your junior season typically.
	And you still come back for your senior season?
	No.
	No, no, no.
	So I never graduated.
	None of that.
	I didn't graduate.
	I only played three years, got drafted, and then you move on.
	Okay.
	And now when you get drafted, a lot of times it's like, it seems like these guys, where did you get drafted at?
	What do you mean?
	Like you get drafted at certain picks, right?
	Yeah, so I was a 24th pick.
	Okay.
	But which for most people would be a really cool thing.
	You're a first-round pick.
	I was the third guy on our team to get drafted.
	So it was kind of like I was happy, but I was also a little, you know, pissed.
	Right.
	But you get a little pissed all the time about a lot of stuff, though?
	Yeah, I'm kind of really angry that way.
	Yeah.
	You got that fire in you a little bit.
	Yeah, a little jealous, a little competitive.
	That chip on your shoulder.
	Yeah, you have to be.
	I always tell everyone, my dad's like 5'8 ⁇ .
	No.
	I was like, one of the only things he ever gave me was my Napoleon complex.
	And I'm almost 6'2 ⁇ , probably.
	I feel like I'm about 5'4.
	Dude, that's funny.
	It's like this guy has the tallest Napoleon complex we've ever seen.
	Borderline, I think it's up there, probably.
	And what did your dad do?
	What did your dad do for work?
	So he works Bank of America, kind of boring commercial lending stuff.
	But yeah, he does.
	He still does.
	Yeah, he actually just moved to Irvine, so we're really excited to have him out here.
	So I'll get to see him more.
	He's been in Colorado the past few years.
	And what about your mom?
	My mom's an attorney in Lexington.
	So she has her own little own little law firm there and does all that stuff.
	But she used to tell me my favorite thing was she would tell me a case when I was like six years old.
	And I would tell her what I think it was worth.
	And I'd be within like 30 grand every time.
	Like, yeah, they left this gauze in this woman.
	I'm like, 1.7, not 1.6.
	Yeah.
	So that's 4,800, Ma.
	Yeah.
	That's 4,800.
	She said I had some weird knack for it, but I always said that's probably what I would do if I didn't play.
	But I'm kind of glad I don't have to do that shit.
	Yeah.
	Did you tell me a little bit more about some of the new rules that are going to be going on?
	Okay, so they're saying we can't spit, number one.
	So you watch a baseball game, you know, people spit.
	Because of the double skin.
	That's going to be interesting.
	They're saying instead of spitting, we're going to have a wet rag in our back pocket so we can touch that and then go to the ball because you need a little moisture sometimes.
	So we'll see how long that one lasts, I think.
	Obviously, the dugout stuff.
	Because someone's going to spit immediately just by nature.
	Yeah, you don't even know you do it.
	You know, you just spit.
	So that'll be interesting.
	Is it a penalty if you spit or is this going to be like somebody saying, hey, I think they can fine you.
	No.
	Yeah.
	Oh, yeah.
	Fine you.
	I don't understand why it would be a financial thing.
	I think it's a bacteria in the air, they believe.
	I also know that if you hit a ground ball and more than two guys hit, touch the ball.
	So you threw it.
	Third baseman catches it, throws it to the first baseman.
	Three guys touch it.
	Got to get a new ball.
	Uh-uh.
	Oh, yeah.
	It's going to be wild.
	Oh, my God.
	This is going to be like the un-Harlem Globetrotters, man.
	Yeah, that's what it seems like.
	It's going to be.
	It's going to be unbelievable.
	And so are you concerned about how – I read one that there is, because I didn't know about these.
	But there's one where if you guys aren't going to bat anymore.
	Correct.
	So the pitchers will no longer bat.
	Yes.
	Which is a good thing.
	Bad thing.
	It's all good and bad because we like to hit, but we all suck.
	Okay.
	So there's like there's two pitchers maybe that can actually really hit and we don't have any of them.
	No offense to Kirsch or any of those guys.
	None of our guys can hit.
	Okay.
	So but now I got to face another actual hitter.
	I don't get to face myself, which is kind of a freebie a lot of the time.
	So yeah, so a lot of those guys in, because the American League, they have.
	They have the DH already.
	So they have the pitcher never bats.
	Right.
	So they have nine professional hitters.
	So they have a, so American League pitchers, it's harder for them to get a no-hitter.
	For sure.
	Wow.
	100%.
	Dang, it's.
	Not easy, regardless.
	Right.
	Easier in the National League, probably.
	Okay, so I'm just thinking about these rules.
	This is so insane, dude.
	I almost feel like now I'm at the rodeo.
	It's almost like we're not playing baseball anymore.
	We're just playing like wiffle ball.
	Okay, so now also there's a rule if you guys go to extra innings that they're going to put someone on second base.
	Yeah, so they've been doing that in the minor leagues for a long time.
	Okay.
	Kind of testing it out.
	JT actually came out and said he wanted a home run derby snow.
	Justin Turner, our third baseman, big red beard guy.
	Okay.
	He said he wants a home run derby to break the extra innings, which I love.
	I think it'd be hysterical at the end of the game.
	Everybody's all tired and dirty.
	We're just trying to hit home run.
	And that's what the extra innings really are because everybody wants to hit the walk-off.
	So everyone just tries to hit home runs all the time in the extra innings anyway.
	So they've done this rule with the guy in second forever in the minor leagues trying to figure it out.
	And now we're going to give it a go in the big leagues, I guess.
	But it'll be interesting.
	Do you have any thoughts?
	What are your thoughts on it?
	I luckily have never had to start an inning that I didn't let somebody on base and they just stuck somebody out there.
	It'll be pressure right out the gate because that guy's already there.
	Yeah, and then there's like a million different strategies.
	You know, you can bun or whatever to try and get him to third so he can score easier.
	And it might be cool.
	It might be a way for a pitcher finally to get back in the batter's box, though, because pitchers are pretty good bunners typically.
	But even if your team doesn't get to bat first, you still get the bottom of that inning, right?
	Yeah.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Yeah, because that almost seems like, man, you could easily get the, yeah, maybe it'll make it a little more exciting.
	It might, because sometimes these games just go on forever.
	We had that World Series game two years ago that went 17 innings, and I threw the first seven of it.
	I was at the ballpark longer not playing than I was, and I threw the ball really good.
	It was just took forever.
	We played.
	Shit, I got home at like 3 in the morning that day.
	And when the game starts, so whenever it gets into late innings, guys are just trying to hit that walk-off?
	Yeah, because it's just a beautiful thing to see on the sports.
	Yeah, I think so.
	That's so great.
	It's very funny how it happens in the extra innings.
	Everyone either punches out or hits the homer.
	But sometimes that's why they go so long.
	Oh, I'd hit that homer.
	Have to.
	So you can't go over to the dugout for anything.
	What if you tell a buddy something?
	Can you run over there and tell him something if he's in the other team?
	You know, I don't know if they're going to let us have phones, walkie-talkies, but even before that, like last, like say last season, you wanted to tell a buddy something.
	Oh, yeah, we just sit there and bullshit the whole time.
	But in the other dugout, I mean.
	No, you can't.
	Nothing.
	Even if it's your buddy.
	No, you can't.
	And, you know, there's certain times where it's okay to go say what's up, and then there's certain times that it's not.
	So like in batting practice and stuff, sometimes we'll linger out there and talk to the other team.
	But no, after a certain point, there's nothing.
	We got a question right here from a young fella right here.
	And this might be Crone Gracie right here, this guy.
	Cola Deo.
	Cola Walker.
	This is your boy Luis from Puerto Rico.
	And I have a quick question for Walker.
	How do you feel about the whole sign ceiling scandal that's been going on?
	And do you think that it's going to affect in any way or shape the way that you guys play baseball this season?
	Or is it going to be the same?
	Thank you for answering.
	Ganga, ganga.
	Gang, gang.
	I got from Puerto Rico, man.
	Feliz?
	The sign ceiling stuff.
	Do you know much about this or no?
	I know that Houston got in trouble, right?
	Yes.
	So what's interesting is they were doing all this shit live.
	So they know what was coming before it even came.
	Right.
	When that's unfair.
	Right.
	Which we're all against that.
	A lot of guys, you know, we do scouting and things like that that you can push a limit, and we all kind of know what that limit is, and they were past it.
	So, you know, and then the Red Sox got banged.
	They weren't doing anything near what Houston was doing.
	So Houston was really what?
	They were knowing what the signs were and then finding ways to communicate it.
	Yeah, they were hitting on the wall.
	Was that stuff real?
	Or do you think a lot of that's been exaggerated?
	No, I mean, the videos seem to really say that that was what was going on.
	I wasn't on the team really at that point.
	I'd been in the Big Leagues, but I didn't make the postseason roster, so I wasn't there.
	But from everything I'd heard, I think it was pretty legit that they were doing something.
	And so say if something like that is going on, who knows about it on the team?
	Would everybody know or would just...
	But everyone's going to know.
	That stuff kind of travels like wildfire, I guess.
	Didn't they say possibly wearing buzzers too, even?
	Yeah, that was the rumor.
	I don't think that one was ever proven.
	But, you know, I think when you do one thing, if one thing you get caught for one thing, everybody can say you could do a million different things.
	And it's kind of hard not to at least think it could happen.
	Yeah, because once you start also taking advantage of the rules or bending them, once you get one way to do it, it's easy to be like, oh, I can also probably do this way.
	And Jose Otuve, after he hit that walk-off, and they all rushed him at the mound.
	At the time, I was like, oh, that was adorable.
	Because he's like, don't rip my shirt.
	My wife will be mad at me.
	But it seemed like after, it was because they would uncover his buzzard.
	Oh, conspiracy theories are great.
	It seemed pretty plausible.
	Yeah, I mean, you know, it is what it is.
	Obviously, we weren't in the locker room or in their locker room and knew what was going on.
	But if something like that was going on on a team, right?
	Say it's going on even on your, it was going on, and just this hypothetical, on a team that you're on, wouldn't, would somebody on the team, is there a code in there where it's like, this is how we do, this is just, this is our, how we do it this year?
	Do you think somebody would raise their hand or if that person raised their hand, you'd be like, dude, chill the fuck out?
	Yeah, there's some sort of, there's some sort of like clubhouse security, I guess, where everything kind of, a lot of stuff stays in there and shouldn't go anywhere.
	So if somebody in your own team told on you about it, like there'd be problems, I think.
	But yeah, I think if it's helping you win, I think everyone's going to know on the team and everyone's going to be involved personally.
	That would be my guess.
	It's an interesting deal.
	Do pitchers get, are you, when you go out there to play, and last year you had your first all-star season, right?
	Congrats, man.
	Thank you.
	When you go out there to play, are you playing, okay, I'm going to beat this other pitcher?
	I'm going to beat this team.
	Like, what is the pitcher's kind of motivation?
	Or maybe not even motivation, but who is he, who are you against?
	Yeah, I think it's the other team is the big thing.
	But when you face guys that you've grown up watching, there's a little bit of like, oh, shit, like, I'm facing Mac Scherzer today.
	And I think for me, it was always like, oh, I get to hit against him and just see what this is all about.
	That's gone.
	But no, I think most of the time it's the other team and the pitcher's kind of secondary unless it's like certain guys.
	Okay, so when you're pitching then, if it's a certain pitcher up there, then you might feel like, oh, this is kind of exciting.
	Right.
	Like for you, it'd be, I think like for you, it'd be like, oh, I'm getting more views on this podcast.
	But if we had the same guest who's did more, it would be more important.
	You know what I'm saying?
	Yeah.
	Your mom's house would win, probably.
	But yeah, no, I see what you're saying.
	Okay.
	And if a pitcher gets up there, so it's kind of cool, say if there's a great pitcher, it's kind of cool for you to be able to bat because you get to bat against him.
	Yeah, because you've watched it on ESPN your whole life, right?
	So you're like, oh, like, why can't these guys hit this?
	And then he throws you that one pitch and you're like, oh, now I get to get why nobody can hit this shit.
	Scherzer was like that for me.
	Really?
	Oh, yeah.
	What was it about his...
	And then a couple more pitches, he threw me another fastball.
	I didn't even see it.
	It was so firm.
	I guess he just kind of like laid off one and then threw one hard.
	And I was like, oh, my God.
	Damn.
	I think I was like laughing, walking off.
	I was like, I have no chance.
	Yeah, it seems here.
	We got a kid right here that has a question.
	The Dole shirt.
	Yeah, baby Bob Dole shirt.
	Yo, what up, Theo?
	What up, Walker?
	I just had a quick question for Walker.
	When I'm watching baseball, there's a couple guys I kind of key in on wanting to watch.
	Guys like yourself, Jack Flaherty, Max Scherzer, guys that are just bulldogs on the mound.
	I was wondering if Walker had any guys that he likes to watch, whether it's starting pitchers or position players, but guys that he just enjoys watching them do their thing out there on the ball field.
	Anyway, hope you guys are having a good day.
	And Theo, Gang Gang.
	Thanks, bro.
	Nice guy.
	Where did that come from?
	Gang Gang?
	Yeah.
	I don't know, really.
	It was before my time here.
	Just been rolling, huh?
	Yeah, I don't really know, man, but it just, people like it.
	Thanks.
	And now it's just become the sign-off on the end.
	We got to get Walker some slides.
	Yeah, we got to get you some slides, man.
	I'll rock those.
	Awesome.
	Hey, our trainers get so mad because I just watch Instagram videos all the time while they're working on my arm and they just hear all these Theo Father videos.
	They're like, oh man, Walker's not going to have a good year.
	One of my first days back, like a couple days ago, I was watching shit and they were just like, oh, Bueller's back.
	Well, I think the first time you said you heard about me was the, we were talking about Bryce Harper when he won all that cocaine money.
	Yeah, the 330 million.
	I'd have been combing my hair with cocaine, bro, if I went out of money.
	So we always get these new interns.
	Sorry, we'll get to your question.
	We always get these new interns, and I show them there's one you talk about eating pineapple and somebody's grandmother or something.
	That's like the first thing I always show these interns.
	Check this out.
	This is hysterical.
	And they're like, what the?
	Like, damn.
	Yeah, welcome.
	The caption is Team of them Chunks.
	Team of them chunks, baby.
	They're like, man, I'm going to go get a job with the Marlins after this.
	This is getting really shoddy over here.
	It's so funny.
	But no, one of the guys he mentioned, Jack Flaherty, a buddy of mine, and we've pitched against each other twice and back in the Mayor leagues, too.
	So he's probably one of my favorite guys to watch now.
	Yeah, he's from out here somewhere.
	I think he went to Harvard Westlake.
	That's a fancy school.
	Oh, yeah.
	They got three guys in the big leagues now that were all high school teammates, which I think OJ Simpson watches PE.
	Harvard Westlake is stacked, bro.
	They have a really stacked squad.
	They're unbelievable.
	So, wow, that's so interesting.
	So is it easier as a pitcher when you get up there to bat against a pitcher?
	It would seem like, oh, well, you know what they're doing.
	Yeah, you know, I think my career batting average is under 100.
	So I don't think I have any way to say any of it's easy.
	So none of it, huh?
	Kind of terrible, but it was part of the game, I guess.
	Do you feel sad even walking up there sometimes with the bat?
	Certain guys, you're absolutely because as a viewer, you're like, oh man, this seems real sad.
	Like, why would they do this?
	It's almost like when they shoot Bambi.
	Yeah, it's tough.
	Bambi.
	You kind of feel like a gladiator, but you're like the guy without a sword.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah, definitely.
	Oh, let's see what this guy with the notebook is going to do over here.
	Damn, and you can't act like you don't have a chance.
	No, so a real hitter walks up and they're like, all right, I'm trying to hit this ball hard.
	I want to try and sit on it.
	I just walk up there and try and see as many pitches as I can.
	Like my goal is to foul balls off most of the time.
	Yeah, yeah.
	That counts almost for you guys.
	Well, yeah, hell yeah.
	If you see six pitches, you've done like a really good thing.
	Wow.
	Oh, yeah.
	Instead of just three right down the middle.
	So Galahad over here.
	Yeah.
	And so you can't tell, though, when a pitch leaves a pitcher.
	It's the same.
	Are you then not a pitcher once you're batting?
	I mean, I know that technically you're still a pitcher and you're batting, but do you have any insight?
	Is there any insight as to what's going to happen?
	Yeah, I was actually a really bad hitter in high school because I would give these other guys credit for, I'd be like, all right, if that was me pitching, I'm looking for this pitch, I would do this and they would never do it.
	Almost like Blackjack.
	Yeah, you think like, oh, poker or whatever.
	Like if I had this hand, I'd do that.
	And they were terrible.
	Wow.
	And so I'd be like, oh, I'd throw a slider right here and they'd just throw me a fastball right down the middle.
	I'd miss it.
	But it was just because they were a bad fisher.
	Yeah, and I was overthinking it.
	Right.
	Oh, that's funny.
	Everything.
	Dang, dude, that's so crazy, man.
	It seems like it is, man.
	I remember the first time I ever got up to bat, man, they had this, and I was horrible at it.
	I mean, I remember one time they put us out there.
	I remember eating psychedelic mushrooms out in the outfield.
	That'll happen.
	Yeah, it was way, dude.
	We had right and double right on our team, dude.
	And I always had to play double right.
	Back right.
	Oh, dude.
	And one time I ended up working at the snowball stand for two innings, dude.
	I was like, man.
	But the coach said it still counted, you know?
	Right.
	Well, he had to play two innings, right?
	Yeah, that was the rule.
	Oh, that was the saddest.
	Oh, it was the worst.
	Get in there.
	All right.
	The worst.
	And then I had an appendectomy.
	My appendix burst when I was a kid lapping the bases.
	Really?
	Between two bases, so I hit the ground, man.
	You know, because I couldn't.
	Or they give you the base.
	I don't know what happened.
	The coach was furious.
	He's like, run.
	Called me an MFer.
	This is back when you still call kids an MFer.
	And he's like, run, MFer, run.
	And I was just like squealing.
	He said, I can't?
	Yeah, I can't.
	I mean, I couldn't.
	I knew what was going on.
	And he came and dragged me by both my arms from third to home, dude.
	And we got the run, but it was like, dude, who gave a shit?
	Our team was horrible.
	We're playing at the American Legion.
	Yeah, it just meant you didn't get slaughter rolled in.
	Yeah.
	Everybody, there's a Vietnam veteran, dude, getting sunburned, waiting for their check.
	It was just rocky.
	So any other expectations you have going into the season?
	Does it feel like going into a regular season?
	Absolutely not.
	It can't.
	We've been sitting at home for three months.
	You know what I mean?
	So I don't know.
	I hope we get all our games in.
	That'd be the biggest thing in the playoffs and all that.
	But with all the new COVIDs around, I don't know what's going to happen.
	And they are planning on traveling?
	Yeah.
	So what they did, normally we play every national league team.
	So we go to the East Coast back and forth all the time, which sucks because we get screwed on the time stuff.
	But we're only playing, I think we're only playing the NL West, so our division, and the AL West.
	So we're kind of staying out here, which will be nice travel-wise.
	You know what I mean?
	Instead of six-hour flights to Washington and shit like that.
	So they're making it easy that way.
	There'll be nobody in the stands.
	Correct.
	What do you think?
	Is everybody still going to care about the game as much?
	It takes some of the ego out of it almost.
	Yeah, it takes some of the energy out of it for sure.
	I think a lot of teams are talking about buying crowd noise or pumping crowd noise in there so it feels a little bit more like it.
	I saw in Korea, they're using sex dolls in the stands.
	Yeah.
	Oh, that'll look kind of cool.
	Some teams I heard are you can pay 50 bucks and get a cardboard cutout of yourself put in the stadium.
	Wow.
	Which is kind of interesting.
	So you can look up these cards.
	That's not a bad idea.
	No, but they're doing some wacky stuff, especially over there in Korea.
	Wow.
	Yes, those were sex dolls cheering on a South Korean soccer team.
	Yeah, I think they got in trouble for that.
	Why?
	Some of those chicks are hot.
	And they're wearing masks.
	It's an interesting deal.
	Oh, gosh.
	And they're six feet apart.
	Yeah, that's an interesting one.
	Wow.
	Someone's social media.
	Go back up to the top if you don't mind, Nick.
	Over the weekend, mannequins were placing the stands for a match against Wangzhu FC.
	Someone's social media, the telltale signs.
	Business logos for sex toy marketers.
	We've tried to add some funny.
	So.
	Fun in the no spectator match.
	I like it kind of.
	I love the idea of having somebody be able to send a picture in or like get themselves put in the stands like for a certain, like as you could do that as a gift to somebody.
	Yeah.
	You know, like you're there.
	Yeah, happy birthday with three in Dodger Stadium.
	Yeah, dude, yeah.
	And maybe somebody that doesn't want to be there, it's like grandma, you know?
	Can you imagine opening that for Christmas?
	It just says, you have a cardboard cut out.
	You never get to see it.
	You don't get to watch a game, but you might catch a glimpse on TV.
	It's almost like getting one of those stars.
	It's like somebody buys you a star.
	You're like, oh, thanks, ass.
	You're adopting some sea otter.
	Yeah, yeah, dude.
	Now I have to go outdoors at night.
	I live in a dangerous neighborhood.
	We should say Michael Landon.
	Oh, yeah, we should say Michael Landed.
	That's a great idea.
	That's pretty funny.
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	So yeah, I'm trying to think of anything else that will be different out there.
	So there'll be no snacks because nobody's buying them.
	All that's going to be down.
	It's just going to be solely to make sure that they have a season, probably to keep the flagship of the whole business going.
	Correct.
	Which is pretty important.
	Oh, yeah.
	Yeah, you know, I think one of the big things has been the owners coming out saying we're not making any money.
	We're going to lose money.
	But everybody's franchises keep going up.
	So these owners, yeah, they're not bringing in cash, right?
	But they can sell this thing for X amount more every year that they keep it.
	So, you know, we're excited to get back out there and play, obviously.
	And, you know, at least people can watch us at home, which will be fine.
	Now, are you, in the end, were you excited?
	Like, yes, we're going to get to play.
	We're going to get to do something.
	Yeah, all of us, I think, are.
	There's a few guys that have opted out of it, which I think, you know, if you have family and stuff, I think that's a decision that you have to really stare down.
	But I'm ready to go.
	I'm excited.
	They have a Latino friend of mine named Rudy, and he's, oh, he's not just Latino, he's specifically Mexican, and he works at this, he's like the manager at this cafe that I go to all the time in my neighborhood, and he loves you, and he's like, oh, that guy, that guy, loco.
	That's what he always says.
	Yeah, you know, I have my moments.
	Yeah, that's what he says.
	So, yeah.
	But it's pretty funny.
	Every time I go in there, he doesn't even say your name anymore.
	He's just like, oh, that guy, loco.
	Yeah, I had a couple.
	And he talks a little bit Asian.
	Unfortunately, my accents are not good.
	My rookie are two live TVF bombs.
	We've tried to curtail those a little bit.
	It's not very family friendly.
	But do you think that chip, where does that chip on your shoulder come from, man?
	Because you definitely, like, you have an intensity about you that I think, like, when I first met you, I was like, wow, just because of your size.
	And I mean, you're bigger than I am.
	And this was the same way when I met Drew Brees.
	I was like, wow, this is not exactly who I expected maybe if I thought these days of a major league pitcher.
	Yeah, I think, as I said earlier, Napoleon complex is for sure part of it.
	But I think the other thing was being small.
	I played a little football.
	I was always too scared.
	I think when I played baseball, I was like, oh, I'm the smallest one, but I don't have to be scared of this.
	Nobody's going to hurt me.
	And so I think you take that little fear and turn it somewhere else so you can kind of function, I guess.
	And as the stakes get higher, I think it just amplifies it for me at least, where I get a little more, you know, juiced up, yeah.
	When you're pitching, do you, is there a pitch?
	Like, does the catcher, who gets to pick what pitch you throw?
	The catcher or you?
	So the catcher gives, the way they explain it, catcher gives you a Suggestion, and you agree to that suggestion 95% of the time.
	We have a whole big meeting that's like 30 minutes long going over every hitter and what we want to do before the game.
	So we kind of know, like at least out there, I don't have to think as much.
	I've told them what I think.
	Now they kind of just remind me and then I throw that pitch.
	Okay.
	But my rookie year, we had a really veteran catcher.
	So couldn't really shake him off.
	You can't really say no to that.
	Oh, really?
	Yeah.
	Certain guys.
	So if you had Mike Piazza or something sitting out there, you'd probably go along with what he says.
	Yeah.
	Wow.
	Because he's seen these batters so many times.
	Right.
	And you and knows the assumption is that he's been there longer, so he knows what you're doing better than you do.
	Now, if you throw a pitch that they choose, it's also kind of nice for you because then if it gets rocked, you have somebody to blame it on.
	Right, right, right.
	You know, that's an itch.
	The worst possible scenario is you shake the guy off three times and throw it, and then he hits a home run.
	Because then the catcher just says, listen, dumbass, I told you.
	Yeah.
	That's actually exactly what they will say.
	So that relationship between pitcher and catcher is pretty severe.
	It's huge, yeah.
	Wow.
	Yeah.
	Really super trusting.
	You have to be, or else you're going to freak yourself out the whole time.
	And do you have – does every pitcher have every same pitch as everybody else?
	Do some pitchers have – And even we all call certain things the same thing and they act completely different.
	It's just kind of the way you are.
	You know what I mean?
	It's like how you run or how you talk.
	It's just, oh, I throw a slider and mine moves like this and theirs moves like this.
	And like your boy Clevenger.
	He and I throw very similar stuff.
	He throws a change up.
	I don't.
	His stuff is bigger.
	Mine's kind of harder.
	It's just, they're all different little variations.
	He's a little more flashier, too.
	Yeah, that guy's tatted up.
	Oh, dude.
	Tad Wild.
	Oh, he tried to send me a unicorn egg one time.
	You know what I'm saying?
	He's got, yeah, it does not surprise me, man.
	He definitely, dude, he pulled a seashell out of his hair one time, and I listened to it, bro, and it told me the future.
	The whole story.
	But then he made me give it back to him.
	Yep.
	Yeah.
	That's interesting.
	So he's, yeah.
	Yeah, we saw him.
	We were in Phoenix eating breakfast or lunch or something.
	I saw him.
	His shorts were about halfway down his thigh.
	Oh, he's sexy, bro.
	He'll show those legs off.
	He had a tie-dye tank top on, all his boys dressed exactly the same.
	I've never met the guy.
	And I watched him say, oh, that's Mike Clevinger.
	Oh, it makes a lot more sense now.
	I think he has a flower on his glove.
	He's one of a kind, dude.
	He told me his glove was vegan, and I was like, that's insane.
	Made of leather, too.
	Yeah, that's ironic and insane.
	But yeah, man, he's one of a kind, man.
	How much does some of the pitchers I notice, like even Mike's one of the guys who, their leg movements will be different.
	How much are you allowed to do there before it's like considered a type of trickery or something?
	If there's nobody on, nobody on base.
	You can basically do whatever you want.
	Wow.
	Basically.
	There's some rules.
	Have you heard of a Bach?
	Yeah, a Balk is a bad one.
	So that's when you're creating deception in an illegal fashion.
	That's what a Bach is.
	Is that shady to do if you balk?
	It just sucks.
	They get a free base.
	Okay.
	So if you got a man on third and bach, they score.
	They don't have to touch it.
	They don't have to touch the ball, nothing.
	They just walk home.
	So that's if you kind of...
	Oh, yeah.
	Oh, wow.
	It sucks.
	Have you ever lost a game on a balk before?
	No, my high school lost.
	I was in eighth grade going to watch our varsity team.
	I was like, so excited they lost on a walk-off bach.
	It was tough to watch.
	Seniors last game.
	The guy fucks up one time and game's over.
	Season's over.
	So what constitutes a balk?
	Like, what do you have to do when you're on the mound?
	There's a few things.
	So when you get your sign and you come, you have to stop.
	So your body has to fully stop before you pitch.
	So when you're young, you just kind of get it and throw it.
	Now you have to get it, pause, and then throw.
	That's probably the most common one.
	There's some certain pickoff moves.
	You have to disengage the rubber, all these kind of boring rules, but you just learn the normal way.
	And then like you balk a lot when you're young because you don't know what you can and can't do.
	Okay.
	Yeah, probably once you get called for it, then you start to really, you're like, okay, I've got a malfunction here.
	The weirdest one I've seen a guy just drop the ball on the map.
	If you drop the ball while you're touching the rubber, it's a balk.
	Oh, wow.
	It was just an accident.
	Yeah.
	I've seen a guy bringing it to his, you know, bringing it down and he hit his leg, dropped it, balk.
	Guy scores.
	Would you ever, how much pride is in it where, say, if you're not doing well out there, you're just having a game where it's not going your way?
	Would you take yourself out of the game ever?
	Wow.
	Absolutely.
	So there is a point in every game where it's all about preservation of the bullpen because the bullpen's super, super important.
	If you're getting crushed, you just try and like survive as long as you can.
	Oh, because you want that to save the bullpen for extra another games.
	Yeah.
	I see.
	Yeah, so guys don't have to cover you.
	You know what I mean?
	So I got killed in Atlanta my first playoff start.
	First inning goes great.
	Second inning, I walked a pitcher to force a run-in, which is as embarrassing as it gets.
	Not even, I didn't even throw a pitch close.
	My first playoff game, we're down 1-0.
	I'm like, all right, throw three straight balls.
	I get this on Instagram.
	People send it to me just for fun all the time.
	The fourth one, it was a ball.
	Umpire calls it a strike.
	Next pitch, Makuna hits a grand slam.
	We're down 5-0.
	And at that point, I ended up throwing three more innings, gave up no more runs, but we were going to lose probably.
	But those three innings saved three innings that one of our other guys didn't have to throw.
	So it also gives you a little bit of redemption then.
	Yeah, a little bit of like, listen, I screwed this one up pretty good, but at least I kind of.
	Right.
	It'd be like if you bombed, if you went out and bombed, which I'm sure happens, at least you finish your 10 minutes.
	Right.
	Instead of, oh shit, minute two, this is going really poorly.
	So now my backup, now the guy after me has to do my eight minutes as well as his 10. Yeah, so you want to try and at least just get there, even if it sucks for you.
	Yeah.
	Damn.
	Is it real invented?
	Like, is the feeling when you're out there like is it once if it starts going bad, like say in that game, okay?
	So it starts going, it started off bad, but you were able to get it back on track.
	Like, does it feel like you lose your confidence?
	Like, what does it feel like?
	It just feels like everyone in the world's staring at you and telling you that you suck, you know, and even though you don't, and you know you don't, you know, you go home after that game.
	You obviously don't get food because there's too many people that could see you.
	Yeah.
	Right.
	So you get room service, and whoever brings a room service, they'll smile and you think they're just laughing at you.
	They're not.
	They're just being nice.
	They just want that $5 tip.
	They're just dropping off a salad, man.
	Right.
	You're like, oh, that guy fucking, he must be a Cardinals fan.
	Yeah, you also sometimes will change your whole diet for about 12 hours after you get beat like that.
	You just eat nothing but salad.
	Oh, just drinking water bottles.
	Yeah, because you think I fucked something up along the way that led me to get killed.
	So there's almost like that taboo element.
	Like you're like, how do I, because you've been doing well, how do I solve this?
	Something's going off the bottom.
	Yeah, what have I done?
	Oh, wow.
	A lot of karma elements in baseball, the whole superstition and all that stuff.
	Now, what's harder than, so say you're having a tough game, you know, you're having a tough game and you feel everybody staring at you.
	Is it better when you're in that dugout than when the team's batting at least?
	Is there some like respite or is that hellish too?
	That's when your head's going nuts.
	When you're out there, it's kind of like, all right, fastball, we'll try this one again.
	It's already sucked, but we'll give it a shot.
	When you're sitting in the dugout and you're just like looking around, we're down six to nothing.
	Everybody's sad.
	And you're always by yourself, too.
	When the camera shows the pitcher who's losing, he's always by himself over there and he's pissed.
	And you did this.
	This is my fault.
	Damn, that's heavy, man.
	That sucks, yeah.
	So you have a contract now, and then what happens?
	So how long does a rookie contract, is there a year, a matter of years?
	You become a free agent after six full services.
	I think all this information, man.
	It's just stuff I'm just curious about.
	I think it's interesting because I think people probably know the least about baseball contracts, if any of them.
	Like when somebody, Zion Williamson gets drafted.
	Yeah.
	Everyone knows how long he has to be a Pelican and what he's going to make and his shoe.
	Nobody knows shit about us.
	We have to play six full seasons in the big leagues.
	So 172 days is a full season.
	So if you don't, whatever six times 172 is, you have to have that many days in the big leagues to be a free agent.
	After three years, you get arbitration.
	Okay.
	So like Clevenger's in arbitration.
	Next year will be in arbitration.
	So I'm on my last year, my three years.
	Okay.
	So once you get into arbitration, then what?
	What does that mean?
	Then it's you versus the team and an arbitrator and your agent.
	Oh, to figure out a new deal.
	And you basically argue what you're worth.
	So the team will sit there and tell you to your face how bad you suck.
	Right.
	And you'll tell them how great you are.
	And then the guy in the middle will tell you, here's where we're at.
	Okay.
	Huh, interesting.
	So after this next year, you'll be able to go in arbitration.
	So this is a big season for you in some ways.
	That third season is a big season for guys because they want to do well that season.
	Yeah, you have to.
	They call it a platform year.
	So this is like the worst season you could get hurt.
	That's why when Corey Seeger got hurt in its third year, he probably made half of what he would have if he would have played healthy.
	But also it's interesting because this season counts as a season, right?
	This upcoming one.
	So I wonder if they'll really put as much value.
	It's almost like, well, they still just go off of last year.
	Well, it's a double-edged sword, right?
	Because if you do great, they can say, well, you wouldn't have sustained that.
	And if you do terrible, they can say, you were terrible.
	Right.
	But our argument's like, well, I wouldn't have sustained the shitty part either.
	So in the end, it's going to be the same.
	They're going to say one thing and you're going to say one thing.
	Yeah, I mean, everything counts.
	Yeah, it's just business.
	It has to be.
	What about some of these guys?
	So you go up against a guy.
	Are there pitchers where you're like, okay, I'm excited about this duel today?
	Like, do you feel like this is going to be a real pitcher's game?
	Yeah, can't.
	I just want us to hit.
	I don't want them to at all.
	Jack Flaherty and I have had two good, we both were really well against each other.
	We just got lucky and scored a couple runs.
	So Scherzer and I had a couple good games.
	I pitched against Garrett Cole, which was cool.
	The playoffs really get like that.
	That's when it really is like...
	Yeah, because it's all over social media and it's like we're the only 100% starter, right?
	Like the manager could flip the lineup if they felt like it.
	Right.
	But the media knows it's Bueller versus Strasbourg tomorrow, and that's everywhere.
	So you're like, oh, I got to beat him.
	Yeah.
	That's when it gets a little more like that, I think.
	Here's a question right here from someone.
	My question for Walker is who's the hardest hitter you've had to face so far?
	See, I like this.
	Charlie Blackman is the guy that has the best numbers off me in my career.
	Got hair like yours.
	I don't know if you want to pull up a picture of him.
	I'll pull up a picture of a little Chucky Blackman right there.
	This guy's a good player, though.
	I'll fucking hit off his ass.
	There you go.
	Oh, does he?
	Oh, yeah.
	Look at that.
	He reminds me of Brian Wilson a little bit.
	Remember Brian Wilson?
	Oh, yeah.
	See, I think if you threw a little beard, we could get a Mike Kiesa.
	MMA fighter.
	Who's that?
	Michael Chiesa?
	He looks like that UFC fighter that won this past week, too.
	The big heavyweight.
	Oh, yeah, Tanner Boser?
	Yeah, the Canadian dude.
	Oh, I didn't see that fight.
	I've really gotten into that stuff since this quarantine.
	It's been like the only thing.
	That's what I was thinking about you guys the other day when I was thinking about baseball.
	I was like, man, if you guys get just coming back and being there for people right now is going to be huge because people want to watch anything.
	They want to watch some competition.
	Right.
	Because we have to.
	Yeah, I mean, they have like dodgeball.
	They have like, you know, it's getting real bad.
	Rumors.
	It's just people just sharing rumors as quick as they can.
	I mean, it's getting really, really limited out there.
	They're like a cross between cops and cheaters.
	Dude, cheaters used to be good.
	Remember that show?
	I think that was a little before my time, to be honest with you.
	Yeah, it might have been, man.
	I remember watching that when I was like 12 and being like, this is so old.
	Dude, the best cheaters was when the guy busts somebody on a boat and the guy stabs them on a boat and gets himself out of it.
	Just tough to watch.
	Dude, I met that guy at a wine function out here in LA, dude.
	He was like, yeah, man, that was a tough episode.
	Which guy?
	The guy who stabbed him or the host?
	The guy who got stabbed, yeah.
	Pretty cool.
	That's one weird thing about LA, man.
	That was a tough episode.
	Dude, I met Oh, God.
	My boat outrun is tough.
	We got back above my boat.
	You know what I'm saying?
	This quality looks like Mike Dean.
	You know what I'm saying?
	birthday home video.
	No!
	Stop!
	Stop!
	Oh, thank you.
	They launched him off the boat?
	He seemed like a little bitch, too, Joey Greg, so I think he kind of went off.
	Don't see me anymore.
	I would hate this on a boat.
	Yeah, I'm on.
	You got arrested at sea, too, huh?
	Yeah.
	By not even police, that's a weird thing.
	Now there's off-season stuff you can't do, right?
	Or is it limited for you or not?
	Yeah, I mean, I think kind of the obvious stuff, skiing, stuff like that, we can't do.
	And you can't do it at all.
	Well, you can, but if you break your collarbone, your contract's gone.
	Right.
	You know, so I love it.
	It's really risky.
	I love to ski and stuff, but you can't do it.
	You'll ski later.
	Yeah, some people have some weird stuff in their contract if her guys aren't allowed to wear flip-flops, you know, because they have bad ankles.
	Oh, damn.
	So the team will put that in that contract.
	No, no flip-flops for you.
	But yeah, golf is even supposed to not be allowed.
	Any tubing, skiing, snowboarding, none of that shit.
	So do you feel limited ever by your contract or no?
	You just kind of know that those are the rules of the business I'm in?
	Yeah, I mean, you sign it, you can't not sign the contract, right?
	So yeah, I mean, I'd like to go ski, but you just can't do it.
	Yeah.
	Do you think you guys will have the opportunity to bring in new fans with the games starting out?
	They said that at UFC, I was listening the other day.
	I think it was on Chaosannon's podcast, but that they brought in 100,000 new fans.
	100,000 people watched UFC for the first time this past week of fights.
	Yeah, that doesn't surprise me at all.
	You know, I think they did a really good job actually being the first.
	You know what I mean?
	I think they probably have the most controllable environment, though, because you have the least amount of people in a locker room, probably.
	So I think they did a good job of taking advantage of it.
	I think more so our fans are going to be happy that we're back, I guess.
	Right.
	But yeah, I mean, hopefully everybody watches.
	And we're getting back before the NBA.
	So maybe get some of those fans a little bit waiting for them to come back.
	Do you think so, you know what will be interesting is they should have more focus and information maybe about you guys, the players, because they're not going to be focusing on the stand.
	You know, there won't be anything really to look at in the stands.
	Right.
	So they're going to have fights, yeah.
	Yeah, they'll probably have an extra 20 minutes a game to fill, you know, just a.
	I've seen some good fights in San Francisco, by the way.
	Right behind home plate.
	Yeah, this woman just smoked this guy.
	Pretty cool stuff.
	Dude, I was, I'll tell you, before you were a Dodger, I was high on cocaine.
	This is when I was using drugs, and I was high on cocaine at the Dodgers game, dude, and I sat up in the top, bro.
	The nosebleed's literally up there.
	And the nosebleeds, I think, are also a gang that's up there as well.
	There's literally a gang called the nosebleeds up there.
	And there was one dude, man, I was so sketched out.
	There's one guy the whole time.
	It's threatening to kill me, bro.
	I think he knows I'm high.
	And he keeps saying, man, I'm going to fucking kill you, papa.
	And then there's another guy, bro, who kept trying to sell me more drugs, bro.
	It was like the angel and the devil.
	But actually.
	And there might not have even really been anybody there.
	I could have been at home, man.
	It seemed like, sounded like two devils.
	Double devils, man.
	It could have been at a Raiders game.
	But, dude, I remember it being so...
	And then every time there was a foul ball or anytime the ball hit the bat, I thought it was coming right at me.
	Have to.
	I was in the third deck, bro.
	Yeah, that'll happen, I think.
	Low altitude up there, too.
	You guys play at one of the biggest stadiums, don't you?
	Yeah, it's gigantic.
	That was the one thing I remember the most from my debut was like, you never really know how it's going to feel.
	You know, you run out there and you're all tired from running and adrenaline.
	You look up and this stadium seems like it goes on forever.
	And you just, it's so weird to me how big they built these things.
	Here we got a young fella right here, a twins fan.
	Minnesota.
	What up, Theo?
	What up, Walker?
	This is Noah from North Dakota, Minnesota's neighbor.
	If you didn't know, North Dakota was a state.
	Just had a quick question regarding a specific MOB stadium.
	I know that you play the Rockies often, being in the NLS and you had 16Ks on them last year at home.
	But does your approach change when you're going into Coorsfield to pitch in Colorado due to that high altitude?
	You looking for more ground balls?
	Do you pitch around people more often?
	So let me know.
	Gang, gang.
	Good luck in your modified season.
	I like that.
	Nice guy.
	A lot of nice people, man.
	Yeah, what is that?
	Coursefield sucks.
	So the ball acts completely different.
	It flies a lot further when they hit it.
	So, you know, I think every time I pitch there, I just come up with some new thing in my head that makes me think I can survive.
	So it's almost more about survival there.
	So that's not the kind of place you think I can probably get a no-hitter out here.
	No, no, no.
	No.
	Hideo Nomo, who was a big Asian pitcher for us back in the day, he threw a no-hitter there, though.
	Wow.
	Which I think is maybe the most impressive thing of all time.
	But yeah, the pitches just act different.
	You know, I almost feel bad for some of the pitchers that got drafted there because you're not really playing on the same game that we are.
	And why is it?
	What is it?
	Because the air is thinner, so what?
	Right, so the ball can't, like, as the ball goes, it'll move certain ways because it gets air and you're spinning it and it pulls it other ways.
	There, the air is thinner, so it doesn't pull it the same way.
	Oh, interesting.
	So if there's less moisture in the air, then there's less for the ball to grip on while it's in the air?
	Yep.
	Yeah, so you can't do the same things that you normally do, or you have to try and aim certain, you know, all season you throw one pitch the same way to the same area and it pretty much does what you think it's going to do.
	And there, it'll end up half moving half as much and right in the middle and they just kill you.
	Now, what about how do you pitch?
	So say you want a guy to hit a ball, like a ground ball.
	Like how do you pouty?
	How do you pitch to him?
	Typically, you're going to throw lower.
	Okay.
	Higher means ground balls or higher means flyballs.
	Lower means ground balls typically.
	Now, obviously the scouting and all that stuff and kind of the research that we do.
	So certain guys really can hit the ball low and whatever, but typically you're going to aim lower.
	Yeah.
	Would be the big thing.
	Do you guys, is there a lot of like, do you feel like there's good team unity, as much team unity as you've gone up through the ranks?
	Because didn't you play some at AAA for some?
	Yeah, so you play in the minor leagues, and that's like the toughest thing to actually have like a cohesive team because every week that team has two or three guys that they didn't the week before.
	And everyone's, you've got to be super selfish in the minor leagues.
	You try and not act like it, but 95% of your thoughts are about how good you're doing.
	Once you get to the big leagues, it's about winning.
	Yeah.
	So, yeah, and the big leagues is where you kind of come together more, but at the same time, you've got guys that are making crazy money and living a completely different life than you.
	And if you're making the league minimum, some guys are making $25, $30 million.
	You're just going to live differently.
	You know what I mean?
	And the other thing I think that's hard about LA is none of us live near each other.
	I think if you play in Cincinnati, you're going to live in two or three little neighborhoods.
	And you can go have a barbecue on off days and stuff like that.
	And we try and do it.
	But for me to go to Kirsch's house from Marina last year, it was an hour and a half.
	So it's hard to do that kind of stuff, I think.
	But I think inside of our clubhouse, all of us are pretty close.
	Is there a sport that you guys compete in outside of baseball?
	We play a lot of cards.
	Oh, really?
	Yeah.
	Yeah, yeah.
	I've kind of been swimming in some other waters because I'm playing against guys that are making real, real money.
	And not that we don't make enough money, but comparatively.
	Right.
	So you could just get bullied and lose all your money.
	Oh, so you guys would meet up and do some poker games or stuff like that?
	On the flights most of the time.
	That's like the big pass of the time on the flights thing is we play poker.
	Is it just poker?
	Do y'all play rummy, gin, anything like that?
	Different things?
	We used to play a game called 357, which is my personal favorite.
	And what screwed me is I won a lot of money playing that game.
	And so then I had to stay in the poker games or else I was like the dickhead that won the money and then bounced.
	Oh, yeah, yeah.
	This is the fucking thing about poker.
	You got to stay until you lose.
	Right.
	So we're playing this other game.
	And then this was my rookie here.
	We got some new guys on the team at the trade deadline.
	They're like, no, no, no, no.
	We're playing poker.
	I was like, all right.
	And I just lost everything.
	But I'd rather lose it than be the guy that ran away, I think.
	But still not fun.
	What were some other things going up in the, going into those minor leagues and being in that vibe where it's like, are there things that you miss about that a little bit?
	Yeah, I mean, you used to share like a two-bedroom apartment with four guys, you know what I mean?
	Which is like, it sucks.
	It's not perfect, but it's kind of fun at times, I think.
	You know, everybody rolls to the field together, goes home, kind of.
	It's fun to have people to climb around with.
	Yeah, just mess around with after games, especially because you're, first of all, minor leads, you're not making no money.
	You're making $1,200 a month.
	Really?
	Oh, yeah.
	Wow.
	So you're making, you know, you're talking taxes.
	You're getting like $400 maybe every two weeks.
	And that's only for seven months of the year, six months of the year.
	We don't get paid in the offseason.
	So yeah, you're just splitting and kind of.
	Damn.
	So you almost, a lot of those guys have to have somebody to bankroll them almost.
	Or you got to really share places.
	Yeah, I know a lot of guys who get jobs all offseason and then try and train and whatever, but that's where the luxury of being picked high in the draft is you get this little bonus that kind of sets you up to where you can live and just train and get ready to get to the big leagues, I think.
	What do you think the dismantling of that, like this season, they didn't have it?
	They didn't have the minors, and I don't even know.
	I'm not sure if those guys are still getting paid.
	Maybe they are.
	They got little stipends, I think.
	But would that be tough to say, like, if you'd have gone through that, I mean, what would that have been?
	Like, do you think you still would have been pitching a year later?
	Yeah, I mean, I think I would have played.
	As I said, I was really fortunate to have kind of a little nest egg to fall back on.
	If you hadn't had that, you know.
	Right.
	I think it's very tough.
	I think those guys.
	And the other thing that sucks about that is there's no clue if and when they were going to play.
	So it's not like you can walk into Lululemon and get a job and say, hey, you know, I can be here for a year.
	I can be here for six months.
	You have to say, listen, I'd love to have a job, but I may be gone in three weeks.
	So that's where it was pretty financially tough.
	And David Price, who we just traded for from the Red Sox, came out and really gave all of our minor leaguers like $1,000 in June, which is just super, super cool.
	It's pretty nice.
	Just to kind of help guys try and stay afloat during this whole thing.
	Yeah, and just that support that other people are thinking about you.
	Like, hey, you know, somebody else is thinking about what's going on with you.
	Yeah, he's never played a game for us.
	We just got him, and he still did that for our guys, which I think was really, really cool.
	And some other guys have done similar stuff.
	And, you know, some teams have committed to playing there, paying that stipend for a while.
	But I don't think minor league baseball will ever look the same because you're thinking, like, we have a low-A team in the city I'm from in Lexington that was on the list to be chopped before all this, let alone after.
	Oh, wow.
	You know, these tiny small towns, there's just not that many people.
	So it's hard to own a baseball team in rural Iowa.
	But it's a bummer, too, because then the kids that were going to go there and watch the game who were then like, oh, I want to play this, who are finding that, you know, filling that space in their head where inspiration lives aren't going to have that.
	Right.
	Yeah.
	Less chances.
	And, you know, you're not going to have, I don't think you'll have as many kind of Cinderella story.
	Like you talked about Mike Piazza.
	He was like the last round pick or whatever.
	You know, I read his book.
	I forget what round it was, but back then they had like 70 rounds.
	He was like a 65th round.
	Yeah, the last slice of Piazza, I think, was his book.
	Sorry, that was horrible.
	But anyway, I did.
	But obviously we saw some pretty bad jokes in here.
	Oh, man, I was going to ask you about, we were just talking, we were talking about the minor leagues.
	You do a golf tournament.
	Is that what you do?
	I do.
	As a fundraiser?
	Yeah, so we did our second one this past year, which was pretty cool.
	The first year, I had an uncle pass away from kind of long-term complications of child pediatric cancer.
	So he beat it and then passed away at like 42. He was young, huh?
	He's my dad's brother.
	Yeah, he was my dad's older brother.
	He beat Hodgins at like 13 or 12. But, you know, back in the 80s, 70s, they didn't know what they were doing.
	They were just kind of trying to zap you.
	Back when they put you on a jar.
	Remember they put a pitcher on a jar and just...
	That was the original Facebook share, dude.
	They would put a picture on a jar and set it at the pizza place and raise money.
	Yep, but no, so he passed away.
	So we did the first year for that.
	We raised like $37,000, Which was cool, and we were so excited.
	And then Rich Hill, who played with us the last couple of years, started a foundation called Field of Genes, which didn't know much about.
	We kind of talked a lot.
	He and I ended up becoming really close and talked about he had lost a son, which was fucking devastating, obviously.
	He told our whole team the story.
	And so this past year we did it for his new initiative.
	And we raised $100,000 this year, which was really, really cool.
	It's cool, huh?
	So, yeah, I mean, you know, I think everyone does a golf tournament, but it is really fun and cool.
	And I think we're doing some good stuff.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, I know, it sounds like it, man.
	That's brave of him to even want to, you know, memorialize that.
	I think even memorializing things can be kind of brave because you have to go through with some of the feelings and stuff.
	Yeah, you know, he was super emotional about it, obviously.
	And I bet.
	You know, spoke at the event and stuff.
	And people were just like, all right, we're buying all this shit.
	We're in.
	Yeah, and obviously, you know, the city of Lexington, being from there, is pretty close-knit.
	Really cool city, man.
	Yeah, Lexington's city.
	I love it.
	It gets, you know, a lot of southern cities too get a rough rap.
	Especially right now, everybody, you know, the news wants to make the south look kind of bad sometimes, I feel like.
	And that stuff really makes me mad because there's some amazing cities there, man.
	Lexington's one of them.
	It's super diverse.
	You get down to the university, man.
	It's so much fun.
	There's the strangest people, dude.
	I've had some of the strangest times.
	I saw a guy do the worm all the way around the four-way intersection.
	Yeah, wormetty.
	Oh, really?
	No.
	Oh, this guy definitely, dude.
	Look, it looked like he had some miles on his belly.
	You know what I'm saying?
	Like this guy.
	He was callouses.
	Oh, he really, yeah.
	He was calloused around the belly button.
	No, I was going to, oh, so one time I got invited.
	I used to work as a tour manager for this guy, Josh Kelly, who is a musician.
	And he and his brother, they're both musicians.
	And they had a golf tournament because his brother works in that band, Lady Antebellum.
	And I got to stay in a – they put us up.
	It was in Augusta, Georgia, and they put us up in different – Chris Dolman was in there.
	He used to play for Minnesota.
	This was a little bit before your time.
	Jim Furick was in there, golfer.
	And it was me and that guy, Dan.
	Remember Dave versus Dan for the Olympics or whatever?
	You were probably too young, Walker, but it was like Dan versus...
	Yeah, they were both.
	Yeah, this is before that, yeah.
	Back when it was just man versus man, dude.
	When man was less lonely, and now it's just man versus wild.
	They're like the Cathalon guys?
	Yes, yes.
	The Catholic guys.
	And this was huge when I was a kid.
	They were both supposed to go to the Olympics.
	And I think one of them didn't qualify.
	And so that was like the big bummer.
	Yeah, Dan versus Dave.
	Can you find it on Wikipedia, too?
	Thanks, bud.
	At advertising, the campaign was a television commercials.
	O'Brien and Johnson were favored to win medals in Barcelona, which had recently lost U.S. market share to Nike was hoping to rebound with their endorsement.
	Went arrived five weeks before the games began when O'Brien failed to qualify for the American Olympic team by missing the poll vault.
	Damn.
	Yeah, dude.
	So all of America's fired up for them to go to the Olympics.
	That's wild.
	And one of them didn't go.
	I wonder where he's at now.
	Well, so my Olympic story, the first guy, or this spring, first spring training, I got to play golf with Michael Phelps, which was one of the coolest things.
	He had a long belly, huh?
	He's never pike, dude.
	He's like a real, he's like a damn pike.
	He looks like a fish with a face.
	Does he really?
	No, but.
	Right.
	Okay.
	You just see him swimming.
	Yeah, right on.
	I'm telling you, that guy's golf swimming.
	I've never seen so many shoulders.
	So he raps when he's done that golf puzzle.
	He's just so mobile.
	It was awesome.
	Really?
	He was a good dude.
	Yeah, he seemed like a cool dude.
	And yeah, it was fun.
	Dang, that's pretty cool, man.
	Now, golf tournaments, I will say one thing that's amazing about him is the people you get to meet at him.
	Yeah.
	That one in Phoenix is crazy, apparently.
	I still haven't gone.
	What is that?
	The before the U.S. Open or something?
	The Waste Management.
	No, it's a PG.
	That's the one they have the hole where everybody screams and yells.
	Oh, wow.
	Have you never seen this?
	Uh-uh.
	Oh, Michael Phelps.
	That's at Waste Management because he lives in Arizona, I think.
	Yeah, put up this.
	I think it's a 17th hole waste management or whatever.
	Or type in waste management.
	And it wasn't Michael.
	We're looking at it.
	No, no, no, no.
	Just put up the waste management.
	I think it is a 17th hole.
	Yeah, so this is the only thing in golf like this.
	16th hole.
	They build up this giant stadium all around this hole.
	And people can yell the whole time?
	I think this is Ricky.
	Fowler.
	He's like pumping up the crowd.
	It's the only place in golf.
	And they just scream the whole time.
	Really?
	Like, see that guy in the jersey?
	Yeah.
	It's John Rahm.
	He played at Arizona State, so this is like his home city, you know?
	Uh-huh.
	He's from Spain.
	So he's fired up, huh?
	And so he's wearing an ASU.
	I got one.
	All right.
	He's wearing an ASU uni.
	Damn, Ricky Fowler is damn beautiful for a damn golfer, huh?
	That's Jordan Spieth.
	Oh, it is?
	Oh, sorry, Ricky.
	Oh, that ain't bad.
	And so this is a part three, huh?
	Yeah, it's like a little short.
	There's Ricky right there in the gray.
	So they play, so people can yell to her.
	And there's Donald Trump Jr. as the caddy.
	Did you see that?
	Trump's son looks like the caddy right there with that.
	It looked like him a little bit.
	So it's like damn club in Vegas around this place.
	It's wild.
	Wow.
	Where is it?
	It's in Phoenix in like early February, I think.
	Huh.
	And so they got a little quiet for when the actual hit, but there was still a lot of chatter because usually it's dead quiet.
	Type in Ricky Fowler because there's one where he full-on like pumps up the crowd before he gets to the ball and he's like, it's too quiet.
	And he steps back and starts screaming at him.
	Place a crowd.
	There you go.
	Yeah, there you go.
	This is so awesome.
	Oh, I'd Be so nervous, bro.
	Look at the guy with the sign, he's usually telling people to be quiet.
	He's gotta be going with one last trying to rip it.
	Let's try to learn from the fans.
	Wow.
	Foink.
	They're just screaming.
	Are you any good?
	I'm all right.
	Okay, I did a lesson yesterday.
	We're working on the game.
	We're working on it.
	Are there any things about pitching that you correlate over to golf that help you?
	You know what?
	I think playing baseball and playing golf are actually like you have the basic, like you can rotate your hips quick.
	And so most of us can hit the ball pretty far.
	But in baseball and golf, your legs work completely different.
	So we all have bad swings, even if they look all right, because our legs don't operate the way they should, I think, is the biggest thing.
	Like hitters don't really play golf much because they feel like it's going to mess with their swing.
	So like when we were growing up, like in high school, they'd be like, I'm going to play golf.
	No, you're not.
	You have a game tomorrow.
	Right.
	You can't mess up your swing.
	Right.
	They'll be thinking about slow, playing and slow.
	Yeah.
	I'm trying to think of anything else, man.
	You got anything, Nick?
	I was curious.
	This is just small.
	Who is the arbitrator?
	Is it someone who played baseball?
	Is it an agent?
	The arbitrator?
	Oh, our head guy.
	So the head of the union's name is Tony Clark.
	He had a pretty successful, like a really successful career in the big leagues.
	And then we have like his helper is not the right word.
	I don't know his official title.
	His name is Bruce Meyer.
	He helped with the NBA CBA, with the NFL CBA.
	So he's a professional arbiter.
	There's a professional arbiter.
	Yeah, but the head guy, the guy that comes out and speaks that you've heard him comment was a player.
	Tony Clark.
	Yep.
	So, you know, we have some interesting stuff.
	We have big group phone calls and kind of talk through some stuff.
	Wow.
	Dude, that's totally.
	I mean, it seems like you're kind of fucking growing up a little, dude.
	Yeah, I'm trying, man.
	I got engaged and then now I'm going to go to the next one.
	You got a second dog?
	Second dog.
	Yeah, we had Nala for about a year.
	Nala's Day Off 21 is her Instagram.
	The new one, Beryl, doesn't have one yet, but he's my little one.
	Nala's Day Off?
	Nala's Day Off 21. And then Beryl Bueller will be the new one?
	Yeah, we don't know what we're going to do.
	He's a Boykin, so Beryl Bueller, the Boykin, kind of works.
	And a Boykin is what is it?
	It's like a small cocker spaniel, but they're all brown.
	They all look exactly the same.
	Okay.
	He'll be about 30 pounds, but I wanted a hunting dog.
	I do a little bit of duck hunting here and there.
	So we got that one because it's the smallest one you can get that can really go do that stuff.
	But also small enough for my fiancé to travel with a little bit.
	Okay.
	So she likes the dog too?
	Yeah, she is absolutely obsessed with the first dog.
	Nala, our little French bulldog.
	Okay, yeah, yeah, that's cool.
	We got that one opening day last year.
	Oh, that's cool.
	Yeah, the one you wrote down.
	When you get one each year, you think you're...
	No, I think this is it for a while.
	Two's kind of, you know, Our first kid, our first dog was kind of easy.
	Nala was like pretty good.
	This other one just pisses everywhere.
	He's tough.
	Anarchists almost like a drunk friend.
	Yeah, they're tough, you know, but then I just left him at home with McKenzie, so she's dealing with both of them.
	Oh, they're in Kentucky right now?
	So will you get to go back at home at all during this stretch?
	No, she'll come out here.
	She usually does about half the season.
	I don't know what we're going to do this year.
	We had it all planned out, but obviously that got changed up a little bit.
	So we'll figure it out.
	And you think you'll go head-to-head with Joe Musgrove this year or not?
	No, we won't play them unless it's in the playoffs because they're in the East.
	So normally we would.
	He pitched against us last year.
	Do you have an arch rival out there that you love to pitch against?
	I mean, you said Flaherty, but...
	I think for us, it's more teams.
	Obviously, the Giants are big, and the Rockies have a lot of talent over there, so playing them is always a big deal.
	But that stuff happens more in your division, I think, than anything.
	Is it fun to play against teams that have teams that have a lot of good hitters?
	Or are you better if teams are kind of a little bit more?
	No, I mean, I'd rather face your little league team than in all honesty.
	But no, I mean, I think it's good stuff when you're trying to get ready for the playoffs and things like that, when you face these good teams and get used to, all right, like these guys could legitimately kill me.
	Not kill me, but crush me, you know?
	So, you know, it takes a little something to get ready to go like that.
	Yeah.
	What were you going to say about Charlie Blackman?
	I think we kind of went off on that.
	So he and Theo have the same hair.
	Oh, and he's the hardest hitter, too?
	Well, he's had the most success off me in the big leagues ever.
	Damn.
	So there's a little bit of hope in that.
	Obviously, there's a power.
	It's that power flow.
	What do you attribute it to?
	Is there anything about him specifically that you notice?
	You know, I think as we scout, you learn like, oh, this guy hits this pitch really good and this pitch really bad and things like that.
	And, you know, my strengths as a pitcher, what I can do best, it's kind of his strengths.
	A lot of times, you, you know, you want to stay with your strengths unless a guy has a glaring weakness and he doesn't have any glaring ones.
	So I just kind of have to go with what I do well and he happens to handle it pretty well.
	But there's just bad matchups and good matchups.
	There's really good hitters that just I match up well against or are really bad hitters against most people that still do really well against me.
	That's why baseball is kind of a weird game in that way, I think.
	What about bunters?
	Do you guys hate it?
	I think it seems dumb, but does it seem dumb to you guys?
	What's weird about that is when a guy bunts, that's our only chance to kind of look athletic.
	And when it's happening, you feel so athletic.
	Do you really?
	Oh my God, you sprint off, grab it, and throw it, and then I see it on replay and I run like an idiot.
	Really?
	Yeah, everybody gives me shit about how I run.
	Is he a Walker Bueller fielding bunt?
	I don't think there's going to be any footage.
	What is it, bro?
	What's going on?
	Is it mechanics?
	What is it?
	Yeah, I got bad hips.
	Oh, you might have dysplasia like my buddy Scott's Australian Shepherd.
	Yeah, it's...
	I bet that athletic shepherd still runs way better than I do.
	Oh, man.
	Walker Bueller, thanks so much for joining us, man.
	Yeah, it was fun, man.
	Yeah, appreciate it, dude.
	Best of luck, dude.
	Congrats on.
	That was your first All-Star season, right?
	Yep.
	Wow, man.
	Yeah, I'll see if they can.
	You know, I don't know if you're going to be able to come to any games, but I'll see if they'll bring you some tickets.
	I can just send them to your house.
	Yeah, I'll just say, dude.
	I might buy one of the Scarborough Cutouts.
	Yeah, we might have to do that.
	Or we'll send Michael Lennon or we'll send Nick.
	We'll give him a day off.
	Yeah, what we'll do is we'll get some of our buddies and find some bad photos of them and just submit it.
	Bro, you know what would be fun if we paid for Brian and Brendan to be out there in this game.
	With just some horrible pictures of them.
	Yeah, which are a lot of their pictures.
	We really should.
	That would be so good.
	Find a picture.
	I guess Brian just got his eyes done or something, I heard.
	He got part of his eyes done.
	Send in the picture of him all swallowed up.
	Oh, that'd be so good.
	Dude, that's a great idea.
	Maybe we'll do a little fundraiser or something, and we'll buy that, and then we'll donate the rest to your charity or something like that.
	That'd be awesome.
	We could do that to him and maybe Shaw after he got knocked out or something.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, damn.
	Shaw's going to hate hearing about that, but I agree with you 100%, bro.
	I don't know these guys.
	Oh, dude, I'm going to take his ass for 240.
	If he could get down to 240, I would take him.
	I have to gain 60 pounds, but I could do it, bro.
	I might have to meet these guys before we do it.
	Maybe that's what we'll do.
	I'll meet him and then we'll reveal them the next day.
	There we go.
	That'll be it.
	If we get it done, man, we'll have to get you over on Fighter and the Kid, and you'll have to touch base with him, man.
	Obviously, man, I had a good time.
	I enjoy.
	Good to see you.
	Yeah, you too, man.
	And thanks for, yeah, you took me out to the game last year, man.
	It was a lot of fun.
	I forgot to bring my friend Steve, dude.
	We had a blast.
	We sat right behind Kershaw's family, actually.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Good people, too.
	Yeah, it was.
	It was nice over there.
	Best of luck, man.
	Thanks, man.
	We'll see you later.
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