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Dustin Poirier | This Past Weekend #142

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Today's guest is a Louisiana, a fellow Louisianian, a young man that I'm a huge fan of, a man that has constantly risen against adversity uphill towards a single goal.
He's a UFC champion in many people's eyes and a title contender right now.
I am happy to have Mr. Dustin Poirier.
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Yeah, I'm from Covington.
That's where I'm from.
Okay.
I think that's between Louisiana and Mississippi.
No, Alabama.
Yeah, it's like heading towards Alabama.
Like off I-10, if you're heading towards like, you know, if you pass like I-10 hits like a Jackson exit.
Yeah.
And then I think that's I-55.
And then if you keep going down there.
Closer to like Abita Springs and stuff.
Yeah, right next to Abita Springs.
Yeah.
Yeah, dude.
Good cruise.
Huh?
Good beers out there, man.
Oh, good beers, dude.
Dude, Abita Springs has this place there where it's like four dead man's curves like all come together at once.
And it's literally like there's a graveyard.
Like so many people have died there.
Like it's the absolute worst idea.
That sounds horrible.
Two hours away from each other.
Yeah, there we go, right there.
So what town are you from, Louisiana?
I'm from Lafayette.
Oh, really?
Right there where that red dot is.
God's country.
Is it really?
Better believe it.
Yeah?
Yeah.
So do you miss being at home?
Because now you live in Florida?
No, I moved to Florida in 2012 when I first made the switch to American Top Team.
And then, you know, I bought a house there.
Me and my wife lived there for five years, maybe almost.
And then we had a daughter.
So I sold my house and moved back.
I live in Louisiana.
Oh, you do?
Oh, yeah.
Oh, really?
Yeah.
Oh, that's awesome.
I just go to South Florida when I do training camp.
So I'll go there eight to 10 weeks.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I have an apartment there.
Yeah.
But my home is in Louisiana.
So are there other fighters that are down there in South Florida that you get to see when you go there?
Like is like what is that training camp vibe like?
Training camp is crazy.
Well, first of all, American Top Team is just a mecca of not only mixed martial artists, but boxers come in and out, kickboxers, jiu-jitsu practitioners.
I mean, it's just combat sports headquarters from people from all over the world.
So there's a few guys in the stable that live there, but there's a lot of people that it's rotating.
I mean, there's new people in and out.
So I always have different training partners when I'm there.
You know, lots of guys from like Russia come in.
We have a lot of guys in that PFL tournament right now.
So a lot of Russian guys in right now.
Dude, the Russians, what is wrong with Russian people, man?
Something's different about them, huh?
I don't know, man.
They're hairy for sure.
Yeah.
Dude, fucking Russian people.
Dude, I dated this Russian girl for a while, bro.
She was crazy, bro.
She was always trying to do like butt stuff to me and stuff.
Something was wrong with her to me.
Like, she wasn't.
Yeah, I know.
She was wild, bro.
She was wild.
So when you're in those, like, these training camps, are people, are you just training with dudes all day?
Like, is there just constant access to different types of like, you know, like if you wanted to do like bow staff fighting or, you know, or can you do anything?
Yeah, anything.
Nah, I mean, they probably have some self-defense stuff that they do teach, but it's, it's normal stuff.
They have boxing classes, jiu-jitsu classes, mixed martial arts classes, but then there's a pro team and we have our own separate schedule.
So we don't, for the most part, the pro guys don't train on the normal everyday, you know, schedule that the customer or a family would come in.
You know, you can't have guys in there.
Oh, I see what you're saying.
Beating each other up with their shirts off, sweating and bleeding all over.
With kids on the mat.
And you guys will get bloody in there.
You know, sparring sometimes gets pretty serious.
Now, yeah, that's a question I have because I'm not a fighter, dude.
Like, I'm not even, I don't even think I could really defend myself, you know?
Like, if I had a shield, I could, but I don't think if I had like just my own body, I could, you know?
So when I see people fighting, I'm like, damn, this shit is wild, bro.
You know?
Do you, when you guys are doing the practice, fighting the training, how, how, how actual is that to what we see when we're watching the cage?
You know, younger guys, for sure, it's pretty close to what you see in the cage because these guys are nuts.
They're trying to find out if they still, if they are fighters, they're finding out.
They're soul searching themselves.
But guys who have a lot of fights, you know, we kind of train smart and keep it under control for the most part.
The grappling and wrestling and stuff is live as hard as it goes.
You know, like it would be a real scramble in a fight.
Right.
With the grappling, its emissions and stuff like that.
But when it comes to the kickboxing and boxing and stuff, there are moments where it gets heated, but most of the time it's pretty under control.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So right now you're down in Florida and your family's in Louisiana?
No, so when I go to Florida, I'm back in Louisiana now.
Okay.
When I go to Florida, my family comes with me because it's eight or ten weeks.
You know, I'll fly my wife and daughter out because I just can't stay away from my family.
I'm a family man.
I love my girls and I need them with me, especially going through training camp.
But yeah, I was supposed to fight in ADS November 3rd in Madison Square Garden.
Joe Rogan, dude, I've called Joe one time and we're talking about something.
And I told him, I was like, dude, I'm a Dustin Poirier fan.
He's from the same state as me.
And he goes, do you want to go to the Poirier Diaz fight?
And I was like, oh, my God, bro.
I'm so excited.
but I had to work that night in Buffalo.
But you guys got...
My hip is pretty jacked up.
That's why I'm out here in L.A. I'll be here until Wednesday.
I'm having some stem cells and some oval fluid injections in my hip joint on Wednesday morning.
So that should ease the pain a little bit.
I have two tears in my labrum.
And because of that, it's causing some bone on bone.
And it's just really painful, man.
Yeah.
Anytime I get stretched out or overextended in a stride, I just pay for it really bad.
Like, where do you pay for it?
In the muscle or where the muscle hits the bone?
No, in the actual joint, where the top of your bone goes in, you know, the ball and socket joint, where your hip bones meet.
Yeah.
Because a lot of people have to get those replaced sometimes as they get older.
Yeah, I mean, I got to try to take best care of it so that doesn't happen.
Are you worried about, like, is that like a bigger worry than just having to step out of this fight?
You know, honestly, talking to the doctors, they think surgery is going to be inevitable sooner or later.
It's going to have to happen.
But this will buy me a few camps, this stem cell and stuff, and let me do my training a little bit pain, you know, less pain.
But, dude, I just, if it lasts me until the world championship, then I'm golden.
that's all I want.
I just want to be the world champion.
Then you can cut my hips off and whatever.
You can cut my fucking legs off.
You can fucking tie me to a skateboard.
You can cut your legs off.
Yeah.
Is that the so?
Like, I was actually talking to a friend of mine.
I called a friend of mine today who lives down in New Iberia, actually, on the way up here.
I was just, you know, excited you were coming in.
I was like, hey, man, I got Dustin Poiria coming in today.
And we were just talking about like, well, I wonder what drives like a fighter at a certain point.
And do you think that the drive to fight has been different from when you started to what your kind of drive is now?
Does it evolve?
Because I can imagine as you get old, like as you get older, like, you know, when you're young, you kind of like had that frenetic, youthful energy.
And when you're an adult, it's, you get a little bit more articulate as to like what your plan is.
Has any of that, have you noticed any of that in yourself?
For sure, man.
That's definitely a lot changes.
I had my first mixed martial arts fight when I was 18 years old.
Yeah.
You know, I'm 29 now.
So 11 years later, you know, I still have love for the fight, but it's just I'm fighting for different reasons.
You know, I've found out that the first reasons I was fighting for, I've discovered those things and found out more about myself.
And now I'm here.
You know, you mature and grow in the sport and as a person.
And now I'm a father and a husband and stuff.
Things change in your life.
Right.
Fighting, still fighting.
But yeah, I'm fighting for different reasons now.
You know, I got people depending on me.
That's the biggest motivation I could ever ever have.
Is it really?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
So you feel that, like that now, now it's like, yeah, I wonder sometimes, I guess, would you have to evolve for different, like, not passions, but different things that drive you?
Yeah.
And like I said, man, I got miles to feed and I'm trying to leave a legacy.
I'm at a point in my career where the next moves is huge, you know?
Yeah.
Do you think that?
Yes, you start thinking about like, you know, Michael Beisping, he's does a, you know, he does, actually, I was watching an interview you did with him the other day, which was pretty funny.
It was after one of your fights.
Yeah.
And he's like, you know, he's works with Fox now and does fights stuff like that.
Do you think about that kind of stuff?
Or do you think about like, would you like to train maybe in the future, like train younger guys?
Or do you have some of those thoughts?
I'm going to be in fighting some way or another.
But yeah, I mean, I am this.
This is what I am.
But everything I have, everything I have in my life, dude, everything I have is from these two things right here in my brain.
You feel me?
I didn't finish high school.
I had low-paying jobs, and now everything I have is an empire built off of fighting and chasing my dreams.
So I can't turn my back on this.
I'll always be part of fighting somehow.
Training people is not a huge passion of mine, but being part of the sport is like helping professional fighters is something that I would like to do.
But like training families and kids and stuff is in jiu-jitsu.
I have a lot of buddies who open gyms and that's what they do now.
And that's not a big passion of mine, but you know, another five, six, seven years, we'll see.
Maybe it will be.
But right now, it's just, I'm addicted to the fight.
Yeah.
So, so, dude, so how were you like, I mean, were you just devastated when you realized that you couldn't go on that fight, bro?
Because that's, I mean, how did you feel, man?
Yeah, it was co-main event, Madison Square Garden pay-per-view.
It's a huge fight.
It's huge.
It's like exactly where things were headed.
Right.
And I took this fight because it was like a fight for my legacy.
It's Nate Diaz.
He's really hot right now.
You know, coming off of two of the biggest UFC pay-per-views ever before the Connor Khabib.
And it was just a crazy timing for this fight to come together, but it sucks.
I had to pull out.
But, you know, I think that shows maturity on my part.
You know, when I was younger, I probably would have kept going.
I would have said a word.
I wouldn't have told my manager or the UFC that I was injured.
I would have fought.
And then, you know, but now I just got to look at it as a whole.
I'm trying to be professional with this.
You know, I'm injured.
I can't run sprints.
I can't throw kicks right now.
So that's a big part of my training.
Oh, that's huge.
Oh, 100%, man.
Yeah, I was watching some of your fights this past weekend and like, yeah, it's like, dude, that kicking is fucking crazy.
Like, how do you do that?
Because you got to pay attention to somebody's hands and then they got their fucking feet.
Usually you don't want to throw, you want to put something in their face, throw punches or combinations or make them think something else before you kick.
You don't want to just throw dry kicks, you know?
Yeah.
Now, what does a dry kick mean?
I just call it a dry kick, just a kick by itself.
You usually want to set it up with something, like put some, you throw a hand combination or just something to distract them from the kick.
Right.
Yeah.
Oh, I see what you're saying, dude.
Yeah, I watched one, they had a fight that you had done with this guy, Cub Swanson.
Remember a while back?
That dude looked like he, it looked like he had like nine arms, bro.
That dude, it seemed like he was fighting like a raccoons.
That guy was just, it was like a, he's like a tornado or something.
It seemed like.
Yeah, he's a Vat man, been around a long time.
I grew up watching that guy fight.
Did you really?
Yeah, yeah, in WC, you know?
Would it be, so is it scarier if you grew up like watching a guy?
Or do you have any thoughts like that when you go in?
Like, is there any, is there any like fear about the actual guy?
Or is there fear about the cage?
Is there fear about the sp like what is that kind of like when you go into the fight?
There's not a lot of fear.
It's just a lot of anxious energy, you know, the unknown.
Yeah, anxious energy.
Yeah, just a lot of anxious energy.
But a guy like Cub, you know, I take pride in fighting those kind of guys.
Oh, yeah.
Guys I grew up watching, like him and Eddie Alvarez, my last fight.
Oh yeah, dude.
That guy's a journeyman.
That guy's fought like 40 times or so.
He has every belt of every major organization, you know, and now he's going to one FC and chasing another one.
Jeez.
But I take pride in that and I'm happy with that because like they say, you know, work until idols become rivals and that's where we're at now.
You know, I'm fighting these guys.
I've thought, man, I used to go to Buffalo Wild Wings with my wife and be like, oh my God, we're watching this guy.
And now I'm in the cage with that.
That's fucking so cool, bro.
That's the same way I feel about comedy.
It's like sometimes I'll be in a green room and like Rogan's in there or Bill Burr's in there and I'm like, damn, dude, this is crazy.
And like, and they're not looking at me like I'm a weird guy or I'm at the server.
That's crazy.
So how, um, so like, so you have this moment now where you, so you have to step aside from this fight to make sure you're well.
And then what, like, so does, did you have to talk to Diaz before that?
Or how does that kind of break down?
No, I speak with my management and then with the UFC matchmakers and stuff like that.
Yeah.
But this is a quick, a, a quick turnaround for me.
If, if my body takes good to the stem cells, they're saying I'll be training in three weeks.
Oh, wow.
And hopefully, I'll be a lot less pain, and range of motion will be better.
And we'll see.
But I'm going to keep good energy and have a good mindset about it.
I'm pretty sure it'll help me out.
Yeah.
Do you feel that so?
Now, would the DS fight then be hopefully rescheduled, or does he go on to fight somebody else?
I don't even know how that works.
It's different in every case, but I saw an interview Dana White saying he didn't want to rebook this fight.
But if they do want to, I'm open for it for sure.
Right.
So if they do want to rebook it, you'll just, yeah, if you want to move it to January, whatever, let's say.
Exactly.
That's perfect.
Right.
Yeah.
Damn, January's perfect, bro.
Get the holidays out of the way.
Yeah, my birthday is January 19th, so try to get it in before that.
It's easy to get celebrated.
Yeah, man.
So when you're at home right now, like, what's that like?
I mean, you got the family life going on.
I saw you guys have a beautiful little girl.
Thanks.
She's beautiful, man.
Thank you, man.
And you met your wife in Louisiana?
Yeah, in middle school.
Oh, really?
Yeah, crazy.
Yeah, middle school, man.
I haven't looked there in a while, thank God.
But, and so you guys were just like sweethearts, huh?
Yeah, yeah.
Been together off and on, all through middle school, through her high school, while she was in high school.
And then we got married, you know, at 20 years old.
Wow.
Yeah.
Dude, that's so like Southeast.
That's so like, that's so like kind of Louisiana.
That's so that area you're from.
People do that, man.
Oh, that's awesome, huh?
Yeah, that was, we were watching some dolphins in Destin, Florida.
That was after this last fight.
We went on a little vacation.
And does your daughter know that you fight?
Does she think you wrestle?
Like, does she have any thoughts?
She's putting it together now, man.
Because when I leave the house, she says, dad's punch punch.
Like, she knows I'm going.
She goes to the gym.
She hits the bag.
She knows about it.
She puts on my MMA gloves and boxing gloves and runs around the house trying to hit me.
Oh, that's cool.
I don't know if she can put it all together, but she knows I do something with ass whipping.
Yeah.
That's great.
So with the DS thing, man, like, so you don't reach out.
Did you reach out to him after?
Was there any like communication after?
Did he say that he was bummed out?
He's talking shit, saying I'm faking an injury and stuff like that.
But people are going to say what they want, you know, fans and him and whoever else.
But I have two tears in my labrum.
Like, I can't fake this.
You know, this is really, really painful.
This was going to be my 40th fight.
I've never pulled out of a fight or missed weight in my life.
I'm not scared to fight somebody.
Come on.
You're ready to fight?
This is how I eat.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Are you, were you disappointed?
So you're disappointed that this happened.
Of course.
Yeah.
This is a huge blow to like what I had plans of.
You know, I was going to beat Diaz and then challenge for the title beginning of next year sometime.
I was hoping.
Yeah.
But everything happens for a reason, man.
Yeah, 100%.
Do you guys have, so this will give you at least time like over the holiday, like, I guess over the holidays, then you'll be able to like, there'll be a lot of excitement probably amongst your family and like energy kind of moving up towards the fight.
Yeah, and it's, you know, I don't get to spend a lot of time home.
I've been fighting so often since we moved back to Louisiana that I'm in the house a month, two months, and we're back in Florida for two, three months.
And then, you know, so at least I'll be home for the holidays, most likely.
And yeah, I have a nonprofit.
I'm going to do something for Thanksgiving and Life.
Yeah, man, we're going to make a donation to that too, dude.
Oh, dope.
Yeah, I saw it on your website.
So that's really awesome.
And it seemed like a lot of that's part of your story.
Like you like, you like, like when you think about helping people, like, is there a certain group that you think about helping?
Or where do you think help is needed when you think about that kind of stuff?
So my nonprofit is just like whatever we think at the moment that we can help and make a difference in our local community, we do it.
I saw you guys were doing backpacks for kids and school supplies this year.
Yeah, we all did.
We did that after the last fight, 500 backpacks and school supplies for the whole school, the whole middle school that me and my wife went to, actually.
Wow.
Yeah.
Start a little dating club over there usually, bro.
Yeah, speed dating.
But no, we just do whatever's happening in the community.
And right now, Thanksgiving's coming up, and I'm back home.
So we're going to do full plates for Lafayette is the name of the thing we're doing now.
And we're just going to have a pickup a couple days before Thanksgiving.
And I'm going to have, you're from Louisiana, you know what a plate lunch is.
Oh, dude.
But I'm going to have thousands.
I'm going to shoot for like three or four thousand plate lunches filled with Thanksgiving food and then people can just come pick them up.
That's all.
Whoever needs it.
That's what we're doing next.
Cool, man.
We're going to make a $1,000 donation to that.
That's incredible.
I appreciate it, man.
Yeah, man.
Well, I appreciate it, dude.
That's so cool.
I appreciate you being out here.
And I love that, man.
Yeah, I think there's a, like, and that's one thing I miss about being like at home a lot of times.
It's just like, out here, everything is so like separated, bro.
Yeah.
Shit is so, it's just like everything's like work out here, and you don't get a lot of feeling of like familiarity and stuff like that, you know?
Yeah, my wife was just talking about it the other day when we got back home because I've only been home for a week or, you know, and I had to leave again, obviously, to come here.
But we went to the grocery store and she was saying like how nice people are, you know?
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
It's just so different in like Miami area or I'm sure out here, I haven't been here long enough, but people are just so quick, quick, you know, out there back in Louisiana, man, it's it's people want to know what's going on.
They want to talk.
They want to help you out.
Yeah, it's most relaxed.
Yeah, for the most part.
What do you guys have planned for the Halloween?
Well, my daughter's finally old enough to know what's going on and dress up, so we're going to bring her around the neighborhood.
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
We were at home last Halloween, so she was only one years old then.
And do you dress up like a fight, like in your fight stuff when you go for the Halloween?
No, I don't do too much dressing up.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Just that's for the kids.
Yeah, that's for the kids.
Right on.
What about when you were a kid?
What was Halloween like when you were a kid?
Oh, we actually got a question right here.
This came in from this guy.
Looks like he already lost a fight.
I don't know if you can see this on the YouTube or not here, but listen to this one real quick.
Hey, Dustin.
Hey, Theo, big fans of both of you boys.
And I was just wondering if you had any good Halloween stories or memories that you'd like to share and what you're going to dress up as this year.
Thank you.
Good luck to both of you.
There you go.
Good timing.
Yeah, good timing, man.
I'm not dressing up, man.
Nah, I'm not dressing up.
Now, what if your daughter wanted you to dress up?
When she's old enough to ask me and really want me to, then that's a different story.
And what about stories back in the day?
I don't really, dude, I don't.
Never, never dressed up.
Nah, I mean.
Really?
Nah, I don't have any memories of that, bro.
Really?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Wow.
But do you remember like Halloween, like when you were at school and stuff?
Like, you know, they would.
I don't really.
Wow.
Not really.
Yeah.
I guess not, huh?
But they do it over there, huh?
Oh, for sure.
Big time.
Yeah, yeah.
I didn't go to a whole lot of school, honestly, man.
Really?
Yeah.
So did you like learn a lot at home or what was going on there?
Yeah, I kind of started getting trouble in middle school.
And when you say trouble, were you just like fighting people?
Yeah, stuff like that, getting expelled from middle school for fighting and stuff like that.
But I got put in an alternative program and put back in the right grade.
Yeah.
And then I went to ninth grade.
And then I got in a bunch more trouble and did a little bit of ninth grade and juvenile detention.
And then I just didn't go back to school.
So do you think like what caused all of that?
Because you were probably the dude.
Then if I was at school with you, I'd be like, fuck, that guy is a fucking dick, you know?
Or that guy's like, I'd be scared of that guy.
Nah.
Were kids like, was it just like a kind of a tough environment?
Or was it like you guys just like to fight over?
Yeah, I'm from north side of Lafayette, Louisiana.
It's a tough area.
Yeah.
But yeah, I was just always getting in trouble and scrapping and doing things I shouldn't have been doing.
Yeah.
And school just wasn't your thing.
Nah, it wasn't my thing.
And you got out.
Yeah.
Damn, that's freaking wild, bro.
Just like, I'm fucking out of here.
And that's that.
You actually got arrested for truancy for not going to school.
Did you really?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
When in like eighth or ninth grade?
Yeah.
Because there was some point I remember like after eighth grade, first of all, like 70% of the black kids at our school were gone after eighth grade, bro.
Like I didn't know where any of them went, right?
If they weren't playing sports, a lot of them were out.
And then, yeah, and after night, a lot of kids left, like in Louisiana.
I didn't even think about that.
A lot of kids just fucking jetted.
Just start working, you know?
Yeah.
Or just get in, like, especially if their family had a job or something like that.
What kind of work did you get into?
I did cement work.
I did building decks, construction work.
And then when I was 18, I got a decent job with a buildings distribution company.
And we would go to job sites and like deliver doors and just brand new houses, everything they need, trim, doors, windows.
I did that for a couple of years.
Yeah.
And at what point did you were like, man, this isn't for me?
I was fighting during those.
Oh, you already fight.
Yeah, yeah.
I was fighting when I was 18. But I did that, and I had benefits at the place, so I didn't want to quit the job because, you know, I was just working on the job.
Did you have to make it with you?
Yeah, yeah.
Okay, so you had to support that.
Yeah.
But I was making like such little money that I was just working because I needed the benefits and I was fighting.
So, you know, damn.
I was still working.
I was still working when I was fighting in the WC.
I think even in the UFC, I was still working.
Was there a night, was it, what was that moment like where you're like, okay, now I at least have enough income where I don't have to do a side job with that?
That was a huge part of my life because I was like, I'm finally, you know, people run around and say they're a professional fighter, but they're not really feeding their family and paying their bills being a professional fighter.
Yeah.
Technology is the same way they are.
It's like you kind of say you are for a long time, but until somebody sees you on a real stage on television or something, it's just like.
But even then I was on television.
I was still working, you know?
Wow, yeah.
But when I got to finally walk away from my work and commit 100% to fighting, I felt like the sky opened up and the sun was shining on me.
Like we made it, you know, we really have a chance at this.
That's crazy, man.
And the wildest thing about your profession, like at least, you know, in so many professions, you can kind of be anywhere, you know, there's a billion lawyers, you know, and there's a billion, you know, and there's tens of thousands of comedians.
But in your profession, there's only like, it just keeps getting smaller towards the top until you have the strap.
Right.
Yeah.
And there's, you know, lots of fighters nowadays.
This is such a popular sport.
Yeah.
And it's not like we find out who the best is.
You know, we fight each other and find out who the best is.
So that's, that's a pretty cool way to, you know, filtering out everything.
Yeah.
When you look back at like a fight that you, if you could have another fighter do one over, it could even be one that you won or it could be one that you didn't.
Do you have any that pop into your head that you're like, oh, that one?
One that sticks out for sure is the Conor McGregor fight.
I just way too emotional.
Yeah.
I just cared too much about everything going on and read too much about what people thought.
And was he a celebrity at that point, really?
No, not really.
I mean, he was.
Right.
A lot of people, he had a lot of hype around him, but he wasn't the guy he is now.
Right.
Yeah, now it's almost like he's more of a celebrity than a fighter.
Or not more than, but it's like equal.
And it's different.
It's different when people become that.
I noticed anyway, like in stand-up, like Dave Chappelle will come into the comedy club, and he's like a celebrity.
You know, and he gets on stage and he'll, I mean, he's a funny guy, but he's, but if Bill Burr comes in, Bill Burr is a comedian.
Like, Bill Burr does his fucking job.
He murders every time.
Like, Chappelle is a little bit more like, oh, look at me, where Bill Burr is like sneaks in, does his fucking work really good and leaves, you know?
I feel that.
For the love of the craft.
Yeah, yeah.
Do you start to see that in your line of work too?
Like some guys, when they become celebrity, like it seems different.
Yeah, people change for sure.
Start making money.
People start running up to them for autographs and they start getting that recognition in public and stuff.
People change for sure.
Yeah, the ego is dangerous, huh?
Yeah, man.
Do you worry about that?
Nah, because I'm in it for the scrap, you know?
I try to walk away from that type of stuff.
If I see a bunch of guys wearing UFC shirts, I'll put the hoodie on and kind of turn.
Yeah.
You just want to win the belt.
Yeah, I just want to win the belt, man.
That's all I want.
I just want to be the world champion and then I'll go back to delivering windows.
So is that really that goal?
I mean, so that's the thing?
That's the, you just want to be the best?
Yeah, of course I would love to stay in this sport for a long time and make a shitload of money, but I just want to say that I did it.
I want to have the UFC championship around my waist, you know, all these years with my wife, struggling and taking food out of the grocery basket because we couldn't afford it and making ends meet and sacrificing a lot.
I just want to say it was all worth it because once you become the world champion, that's forever.
And that's what I'm trying to do, honestly.
Damn, that's powerful, man.
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Does your wife work as well?
That's not really any of my business.
She worked throughout my whole career.
And then when we moved to Florida, she was actually in school in Louisiana.
She followed my crazy ass dreams and pulled out of school, out of college, and moved with me to South Florida.
And then started working a normal job.
And she worked until she had the baby.
Yeah.
And did she come to the fights?
Everyone.
Really?
Everyone.
Dude, my wife used to, me and her in Louisiana, I rode a bicycle to work.
We would both use her car.
She would pick me up after she worked all day and bring me to the gym.
Dude, she used to drive me to Lake Charles, Anthony's Motel 6, dude, gunshots and stuff.
And outside, she would, I was crazy, man.
She's been my dog, man.
Has she been?
Yeah, she's been.
She's an anchor, bro.
Yeah, for sure.
I wouldn't be as far in my career without her.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And because what is that?
Because you always have that home.
That home is always there.
It is.
And, you know, just she just balances me out, man.
And no telling what I would be doing, you know, if I wasn't married all these years.
I've probably been cutting up and getting into trouble and not as focused.
Oh, yeah, definitely not as focused.
But we have a team, me and my wife.
Not to sound cheesy with this, but we have a team and we had goals that we set.
Right.
No, well, look, it's working, bro.
Yeah, yeah.
No, it's a huge part of my fighting success, my wife, for sure.
Yeah.
Nick, do you have something?
Yeah.
So going, first of all, I want to thank you for, especially the Eddie Elvarest II and Joseph Duffy.
I won a lot of money on you.
You were almost a two-to-one underdog on Joseph Duffy.
That was absurd.
But so thank you.
But going back to that Connor fight, you were fighting at 145.
How much are you depleted fight night?
Do you feel fresh by, and now you're at 155?
Are you fresh by fight night when you cut that much weight?
Or does it have an effect on your performance?
I'm sure it has some effect.
I don't feel it as much at 55. Even though I'm cutting a lot of weight to make 55, 55 is not easy anymore.
This last fight with Eddie Alvarez, fight night, I left the place I was staying at to go to the arena.
I was 178.
So I put on 23 pounds.
I'm still cutting a lot of weight.
But at 45, I felt really, really bad.
And what is it?
just feel like weak like there's not a lot of water in your cells so you're probably you kind I just felt a little off balance.
I felt like foggy in the head.
I felt my muscles would get fatigued when I would squeeze.
Just a pump would come really quick.
And it just weird feeling in my whole body.
It felt a little flat-footed sometimes.
Like I put the weight on and my muscles didn't suck it up.
It was just like in between my skin kind of.
It's a weird feeling, man.
It felt jiggly almost.
Yeah.
Do you, have you noticed everything?
Are you like really in tune with your body?
Like, can you kind of like, because you're constantly, I mean, your body is your, it's your occupation almost.
I'm very in tune with my body.
Yeah.
So you can kind of feel all the time what's going on?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Is it, do you, are you more weary these days of like pushing the envelope sometimes?
Because, you know, as you, you know, you're 29, now as you get older, it's like, yeah, it's like the years start to become crucial.
You know, in the last few years, I've noticed like when I was younger, I can train every day, three times a day, as hard as I want and be fine, wake up the next day and do whatever.
But now, like, if I have a hard sparring session, I wear that, that, you know, bumps and bruises for a couple days after that.
So my training kind of like a bangover, kind of.
Dude, like.
Like a hangover, but for fighting.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly.
Exactly.
Yeah, man.
Like when you were young, you could drink every night, wake up, and start over, right?
Yeah, you could do whatever you wanted.
You could cut your fucking leg off when you were young.
I felt like it was a different time.
Yeah, bangover.
I know, bangover.
So if this fight, so after this stem cell stuff, you'll know if you're ready to rock again then.
Yeah, I want to talk to the doctor again Tuesday, they said, and then I'll go in Wednesday morning.
But everybody reacts differently to stem cells.
Hopefully my body reacts really well to it.
And, you know, it takes a lot of the pain away and gives me back my range of motion, takes some of the inflammation out.
But I'll be back in three weeks to training.
Wow.
Yeah.
Yeah, I got stem cells.
It's where they take your blood out and then take the cells out of it and inject them into you.
That's PRP.
Oh, that's PRP.
That's what I got.
I got that in my hair.
Yeah.
Just to keep this fucking class going, bro.
Keep that shit up, bro.
Dude, I mean, I feel like I'm- Bro, if I was down by you, I might get hunted.
Fucking Daniel Boone.
Dude, it's kind of crazy when I go outdoors in Louisiana if I'm out at night, bro, and I'll turn around.
There'll be a lot of raccoons in the hunting.
I swear to God, bro.
Oh, man.
When's the last time you've been tiki tubing?
I don't know.
What is it?
No, that's that's right around your area, Denham Springs area.
Oh, tiki tube?
Yeah, man.
What is that?
When people get tiki torches and go to the top?
No, no, no, no.
It's like this.
That would be crazy.
I don't know.
It's like, I don't know if it's a river or some stream that's miles long.
People go up there with their, they have like ice chests.
And it shit floats down.
It's like a slow.
Look, there you go.
Tiki tubing Denham Springs.
Oh, yeah, dude.
I've been.
I thought you brought that mullet out there at a time, but I was wrong.
Dude, we went in the Bogachita River, right?
This is like, which I don't even know if it's a river.
I honestly feel like it's an outlet from a business.
I feel like it should be definitely shut down, like condemned.
And I remember one time we're like going and there's like this bend in the river, and this dude is out there with a girl, and they're just shooting a gun into the water, right?
And they're on a date.
It's like this guy that's like, romantic, bro.
Yeah, it was romantic, right?
You're popping off.
So we start coming around this bend, and we keep getting closer, and they're just still shooting into the water.
You know, this guy's obviously trying to fuck.
So I'm yelling.
I'm like, hey, bro, you got to stop shooting the gun.
And the guy yelled back.
He's like, why?
Because there's literally like 20. It's going to almost be like a game you would see at a carnival where like, you know, people are trying to get those little ducks or whatever.
Fucking idiots.
That's Louisiana, man.
We had two being in Wisconsin on the Apple River, and that was Wisconsin's Mardi Gras, basically.
People had beads and girls got wild.
And for some reason, at the end of the river, there was always a Jack Johnson concert.
It was really great.
What do you miss about growing up in Louisiana?
Like, do you miss anything about being young?
Or do you feel like, was that the best time of your life?
Is this the best time of your life?
I mean, they're both awesome.
Yeah.
You know, was y'all's family pretty close?
My family was my mother and her mom and dad, we were close there, but my family was kind of spread out.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I kind of missed the innocence of the beginning of my fight career.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
I kind of missed that a little bit.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That was a fun time of my life.
But growing up in Louisiana was fun, man.
You know, picking pecans and getting into trouble.
Yeah.
Isn't it interesting that I start to think about that too?
Like I didn't realize that like the journey part of it was like the crazy was going to be the craziest part.
Right.
You know, now it's a little bit more like business.
It's still fun.
Yeah.
You know, even with kind of, you know, like not to compare them, but it's still exciting.
Like, you know, the shows and the, you know, and the preparation and the, and doing the little shows to get to the big shows.
Right.
But the, yeah, but the, like, I remember hanging my groceries outside of, like, I was in Kansas City one winter and I would buy groceries and then hang them out of the, it was freezing outside, so I'd hang them out the window at night to fucking keep cold and then bring them in in the morning to thaw out and then eat lunch, you know?
But it was like things like that were going to be the best, you know?
Yeah, for sure, man.
Like the strongest.
The journey broke.
Yeah, the journey.
The journey's kind of the wildest part.
Right.
But it's all still fun for sure, man.
Yeah.
So how many more fights do you have to have to get to this to get to the belt?
We'll see.
I mean, I think I'm ranked number three right now.
So it's Khabib is the champ, then Tony Ferguson, then Connor, then me.
Yeah.
Connor just fought Khabib.
Tony probably is going to fight Khabib next.
So I'm after that.
Right.
Yeah.
So now, so why was Diaz the fight that you got put into then if he's not in those three?
He's ranked 10, I believe.
It was just a fun fight that, I mean, sometimes you get the right matchups that you know are going to be a banger, and this one's one of them.
You know, this one's one of them.
I met his brother one time, bro.
And that guy was wild enough, man.
Nick Diaz.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, man.
They got something like, yeah, they're fighters, man.
For sure.
They're fighters.
No doubt about it.
Do you think about when you go in now, is it more about, like, do you think about, like, do you prepare for the fighters' weaknesses and strengths?
Or is, because I'm watching some fights when you were young, and it was almost like letting like a dog loose from one side of the ring, you know?
Like, you know, when somebody's dog, we get loose and suddenly it was freaking coming at you.
Yeah, you can't do nothing about it.
You just screamed.
Yeah, that's it, bro.
It was like, all you can fucking do is scream.
Like watching a car wreck.
Yeah.
Oh, shit.
Like, damn, this car is just going to keep on wrecking, bro.
Is there more strategy involved now?
Yeah, this is definitely an art now.
Back in those days, it was just, it was a fight.
And it still is a fight, but it's definitely more technical, man.
We break down footage.
My coaches do.
We train specifically for certain guys.
And that's one good thing about American Top Team.
There's so many guys there that if I'm fighting a Diaz, we have tall guys who I can spar with.
We have South Pauls.
He's obviously a really good Jiu-Jitsu practitioner.
We have guys who are great in jiu-jitsu, a lot of black belts on the mat.
So all bases are covered when you're at a big camp like that.
That's one of the benefits.
That's one of the values.
Did Platinum Mike Perry ever be down there?
I've never seen him there.
You haven't?
That guy's wild, bro.
I think he trains a lot in northern part of Florida, maybe?
Yeah, he's in the future.
He's in week now.
Okay.
Is there any fighters out there that people don't know about that are like, you know, like, is the toughest guy you've ever met?
Is that been in the cage or has that been in the streets, you think?
I don't do any street fight.
I haven't been in a street altercation.
Maybe like the gym or something.
There's incredible guys that you've never heard of coming from all over, man, that I run into in the gym that are, you know, hopefully they make a name for themselves or get a break and get that moment of spotlight where they show who they are.
But there's lots of great, everybody who's in the UFC has made it there and then they're incredible fighters, but there's so many guys out there that haven't made it there yet or that are fighting on smaller shows that are just as good as a lot of these guys.
Yeah.
So when you say like get a break, like what kind of break has to kind of happen?
Like, do you have to have a manager that gets you a fight?
Like how much of that kind of stuff goes on behind the scenes?
That's a little bit of politics, of course, but like beating the right guys.
Maybe let's just say there's a matchmaker for the UFC who's watching this up and comer and you're his opponent.
You go out there and beat his ass.
Now the matchmakers are looking at you like, wow, who's this kid?
Like that kind of break.
Just the right matchups, the right eyes on the fight, the right platforms to really show who you are.
But nowadays, man, there's so many streaming organizations that are online and they have fight pass that are giving all these guys a place to fight where a lot of eyes can see it.
So there's a lot more opportunities now.
Dude, I remember when I was, they had this thing for a while.
It was like gay dudes were fighting at bars, right?
And they would set up like a ring or something and they would have two gay dudes would fist fight and people would bet on it and shit.
I remember that, dude.
I think that was, yeah, when I was at LSU for a while.
Well, I don't know what happened to that shit.
It might have got shut down.
Cockfights.
Yeah, it was cockfights, I think.
I think it was like really AAA, you know.
Do you think that you could fight an animal ever, bro?
Do you think it's ever going to get to that?
What?
Like a bear?
All right.
Yeah, I don't know.
Like, if you think, like, I thought, like, if you kangaroo with gloves on, like, yeah, if you could fight, yeah, could you fight a couple horses?
You fucking body shot that thing.
Would you really?
I mean, I don't.
Can they kick?
What's the rules?
I don't know.
That's a good question.
What is the rules?
Yeah, sometimes I just wonder that.
Like, if you, like, if I was a fighter, right?
That's what I think about.
Like, if I was a fighter, you know, and I could fight, and when then I would stop thinking, like, oh, would I quit fighting people?
Yeah.
And want to start fighting animals.
That's the Nate Diaz kangaroo.
Is it?
Yeah.
It did look like Nate Diaz a little honest.
Pull up the Nate Diaz kangaroo side by side.
That really was the one.
Was it really?
Yeah.
Are you amazed sometimes how some guys look like they can't fight and then can totally fight?
Yeah, that's one thing I learned early.
Like, you know, looks or, you know, if a guy looks strong for the most, there you go.
Right.
Oh, wow.
That's wild.
They're identical.
They're very similar.
Virtually identical.
Very similar, bro.
Yeah, a lot of times, like, you'll see a stringy, lanky guy, not a lot of muscle definition, and then you get on the mat with him, you're like, he's incredibly strong.
Or you'll see a guy who's got huge muscles, and then you go with him, and you're like, this guy's not really that strong.
A lot of that's for show.
I mean, most of the time a guy looks big and strong.
He is, but that's like, it doesn't transfer over to grappling and fighting.
He might be able to lift a lot more weights than you, but like functional squeezing and technical stuff, it's not the same.
That one punch is still there.
Like if a guy's really big, he's probably going to have a good shot.
Yeah.
But it won't last long.
And then the muscles don't translate when you grapple.
What was like, did you have like a, do you have like a, ever have like a plan when you first started to have like a finishing move, you know?
Dude, honestly, I trained my whole career just to finish any way I can with strikes, submissions.
I never want game plan to go to the judges or win round by round.
I just fight.
Most of my fights, I've never really had a solid game plan.
Really?
I don't like that, yeah.
I just like to fight.
You like to fight?
Yeah, I just like to fight.
So for you, it's like you're just, you get a feeling you are in a fight.
Right.
So if the guy kicks a lot, we kind of prepare for that, but I'm not putting together crazy stuff that, you know, we just get ready for a lot of kicks.
Or if the guy boxes well, we do a little bit extra boxing, but I know some coaches go crazy with game plans.
Like we're going to jab and then we're going to put him against the fence and take him down.
And like I've never done that.
Right.
Just fight.
And hopefully opportunities present themselves and I capitalize.
And I kind of trust myself in combat.
I've been, like I said, this is going to be my 40th fight with Nate Diaz.
I've got a lot of time in there, you know, in that, yeah, just in that hook.
Yeah.
Is it fucking violent, bro, when they close that shit up?
Have you ever heard them like, does it make a sound when they close the cage door?
Oh, yeah, yeah.
It's metal.
You hear the metal.
It's so scary, bro.
Dog, I'm going to fucking look for a trap.
I'm sure like the same thing when you're on stage at a comedy show, like all the lights are on you, right?
So the crowd looks really dark.
Yeah.
So it's like that in the cage.
It's like it's really light up.
Everything's lit up and you kind of look through the fence.
You can't really see anything out that much.
You know, you see like the first row, but it's just like spotlights in.
It's really similar.
That's crazy.
Yeah.
So then you're just in there.
You just.
And you can, can you see, do some guys is like, can you tell when a guy is lasered in?
And can you almost see when you look in a dude's eyes in the ring, like, can you feel if you think he's been training hard, if he's been focused?
Does all that kind of come into that moment or is it still...
Some guys are like that.
They're looking at you and they're really intense and all that.
And you get in there and you whip their ass.
But some guys don't want to make eye contact.
They're kind of staying to themselves and then the bell rings and they're maniacs trying to take you out.
Everybody's different.
I think it's more of a personality thing.
When you're fighting, are you looking somebody in the eyes or is it more of this kind of this wider kind of view that's going on or something?
I mean, eye contact is made for sure, but I'm kind of like all my senses are engaged.
I'm just kind of the whole picture I'm seeing.
And at this point in your career, are you thinking or is a lot more of it like reaction?
It's just natural.
It's a flow almost.
You know, it's just a flow.
The only times I really start to think a lot is in positions like against the fence.
If we're both crunched up or like I get a takedown and we're on top, we have like moments of clarity in there where things kind of slow down.
I was like, oh shit, I can hear Joe Rogan talking right now.
He's right there.
Wow.
But then it goes back to the craziness.
I don't feel like you have time to think.
You're doing what you're trained to do.
There's a tiny bit of thinking, but if I can explain it to you, think about this.
If you're driving on the interstate and somebody slams the brakes and you see red lights, do you say, I need to hit my brakes now too?
No, it's too late.
You don't have time to think.
You just do it.
That's kind of what fighting is.
A guy punch at, I don't say, well, there's the punch.
I'm going to slip it and counter.
You just do it.
Just like hitting the brake, I just do it.
I've done it so many times.
It's muscle memory and my brain and just what I do.
So do you feel more comfortable in a fight than say like, what's something you would feel like uncomfortable in?
Speaking in front of a lot of people, I guess, would probably be a big one.
Right.
You'd rather be in it.
Once I'm doing it, I wouldn't probably have a problem, but the thought of doing it is like, oh, shit.
Oh, here we go.
So you'd rather be in a fight than being a public speaker?
Yeah, fighting a man.
Yeah, that's fucking crazy to me, man.
The absolute last thing I would ever want to fucking be in is a fight.
Dude, I'd rather fist fight a kangaroo than go do a comedy show.
Dude, I'm telling you.
I'm telling you, what's next is going to be a league that travels around, and it's going to be men fighting animals, dude.
What about 40 foxes?
You think you could fight 40 foxes?
40?
Baker's dozen, I guess.
Let's take another call that came in.
For sure.
Theo, huge fan, brother.
I wanted to ask us, because I'm a huge fan.
I live in Youngstill, Louisiana, so not far from it.
One, what's your favorite place to eat at here in the Alaska area?
Don't say Eatos, because I know that's your boy.
And then second, I mean, I know you have the Diamond Training Center, but I was curious as to, you know, I guess future business opportunities that you were maybe looking into establishing here at the Alaska area post-MFA career.
So killing it.
Love y'all.
Yeah, man.
What's up?
What's up?
Yeah, dude.
I live in Youngsville.
Oh, do you?
Yeah, yeah.
I'm always at the Rouse's.
I love Rouse's.
Oh, dude, it's a spot.
Dude, Rouse's the best, man.
Yeah.
Yeah, Rouse's has everything.
And you think it's not going to be good when it first opened up?
I was like, this shit's all that it's going to be, but it's good.
No, it's good.
Yeah.
I missed it, man.
And when I was in Florida for a while and I haven't been back to Louisiana, and then I fought in New Orleans, and there's that Rouse's right by thewesome, man, to just walk back in there and smell that, smell that crawfish in the air.
Yeah, they got everything in there.
Right.
But I like Pray Jones and Karen Crow.
I like that spot, but he's right.
Dino's is good pizza, man.
My buddy owns that place.
I don't know what business ventures I'm going to, I have the Diamond Training Center, but that's like, I don't make money with that.
That's just a gym, a private gym I have where local guys come.
We open the door, train, clean the mats, and just have fun training.
But I really like beer.
Maybe I'll do something with some beer.
I don't know, man.
We'll see.
I got a cool idea for a TV show.
Oh, yeah?
Yeah, yeah.
Where I travel around and train at gyms and go to local places to eat.
Oh, that sounds great.
I got it up here, man.
Nobody done that, man.
That'd be dope.
Hell yeah.
Yeah, I wonder what it would be called, man.
It'd be called Food Fight.
Ooh.
I like that, bro.
Bro, off the beaten path places, too, dude.
Yeah, yeah.
Like, shit, you got to catch with your face to eat it.
You know what I'm saying?
Yeah, 40 foxes, bro.
We might have to cut this part out.
So it's no significant thing.
Oh, yeah, so you keep your idea, too.
Yeah.
That should be all over.
It really will, man.
Food fight's a great idea, actually.
I want to do like, so say I go to Louisiana.
We go to a boxing gym.
Then we go to some local spots.
Or we go to New Orleans.
I got a bunch of buddies who have gyms.
Like any gym in the U.S., I don't be able to get into just because I've been fighting so long and I know so many people.
But I'd like to do like what's around that city.
Like if I go to Philly, we'll go to a bunch of boxing gyms, then we'll hit a bunch of cool spots and kind of learn the gym story and then some restaurants around their story.
I like that.
And what it's like, what guys that are training, what MMA guys are eating, what UFC guys are eating.
Well, I'd like it to be like not so much the healthy stuff, but like the local spots that only these guys who live at this gym and train there know about.
Right.
Yeah, to keep it grassroots.
Do you, is there a lot of pride from your area?
Is there a lot of support for you?
Dude, it's amazing.
I mean, you know how Louisiana gets behind sporting events or athletes due to LSU or anything.
That's one thing I can say about Louisiana that I miss being away is like Louisiana supports Louisiana.
If you're from Lafayette, everybody's behind you.
Everybody loves you.
You know, it's a good feeling to have that sense of community.
Especially over there where you guys are.
My area is more like just rural white kids.
Like our area was just kind of white and black.
It was, you know, we had some rednecks, but we didn't have a lot of like, you know, where you guys are, I feel like everything is a fucking recipe.
You know what I'm saying?
Like everything, like if water floods in the house, then that's soup.
You know, it's like, it's just that kind of place.
For sure, yeah.
Yeah.
And family is like, and family's super important in Louisiana.
That's another thing.
Right.
Like people don't care, like their dreams and stuff are important, but some people's dream, their whole dream is just to spend time with their family.
Yeah.
And that's beautiful in itself, man.
Yeah.
But I think that's just the culture there.
Like in Lafayette, the area I'm from is Cajun country.
You know, that's where all the Acadians are.
Oh, yeah.
You know, so it's just a really good group of people.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah, man.
That area is a lot of fun and a lot of good people from over there.
No doubt about it.
A lot of good food.
A lot of athletes, too.
Yeah, for sure.
A lot of great high school football.
Yeah, man.
I miss Louisiana, dude.
I miss it.
I love Nashville, too.
Have you been to Nashville?
Never been to Nashville.
Oh, bro.
Nashville's pretty cool.
Yeah.
It doesn't have like the same kind of, it's more like kind of fancy south a little bit, but it has, I mean, there's some fucking just, I mean, it just still has like a lot of like family first type of stuff.
You know?
That's why when I get out here, I'm just like, I feel like everybody, I don't know.
Family's not as important, you know?
But I think it's just because it's more of a city and it's just more of a place where people come to work.
It's business.
It's business.
It's business out here, man.
And Lafayette, dude, or Louisiana in general, like everybody's, like I said, supports local.
If you go into a bar and there's Louisiana beer, that's what people are ordering and drinking.
If there's homegrown Louisiana food, that's what they're ordering.
That's what they want.
I like that.
I like that.
Do you feel, do people like, do you get a lot of hardheads that come at you because you're a fighter that want to take on Poirier?
I don't put myself in those kind of positions, honestly.
I don't go to like bars really and stuff like that that much.
Probably out drinking and stuff.
It would happen a lot, but that never happened.
More on Twitter.
There's a lot of tough guys on the internet.
Instagram and Twitter.
The internet is fucking filled with idiots, bro.
Knuckleheads, man.
That'd be another thing.
Not in person, never.
No, never in person, bro.
Oh, it's the worst.
Was there ever an injury that you, like, where you hit a guy where you were like, oh, man, this is like you almost, like, you didn't feel, like, you knew it was part of the fight, but you're like, oh, fuck.
I feel bad about that.
No, never.
No.
No.
That's not it.
No.
It's not part of it.
No, it can't be.
Right.
So there's no room for that, man.
There's no room for that in there.
No, when I get in there, that goes back to like me saying I'm not looking to ink out rounds and win a decision.
When I get in there and the bell rings, I'm trying to finish you or you're going to finish me.
It's like, that's all that is to it.
This is combat.
Right.
And how hard, so how hard is it now to have that patience to wait for that DS fight to wait?
Like, you know, because that's like, that's, it's just, you know, I feel like it would just stress you.
It is, but I'm honestly a little proud of myself, man.
When I was younger, this would have felt like the end of the world.
Oh, my God.
This was such a huge fight.
It's not coming together.
What am I going to do?
Everything's falling apart.
Oh, my God.
Now I'm just like, it's just.
More time.
Yeah, it's just everything happens for a reason.
If they want to fight, it'll come back together.
If not, we'll move on.
But we're in a good spot.
Yeah, there's only a couple guys left you can fight.
Right.
And just take it in stride, man.
I just want to not be in pain.
I just, like I said, I have people depending on me, and I need to give myself the best shot at being a world champion.
And to do that, I need to be healthy and be able to train like I need to train.
Yeah.
So Cormier is from Louisiana.
Do you guys ever be?
I'm a kid or no.
Really?
Yeah.
Yeah.
We talk all the time.
Yeah.
He's a big guy.
I never met him.
He's a big guy.
Probably not much taller than me.
He's round.
He's round?
Yeah, yeah.
He seemed like an Ottoman.
You ever have an Ottoman?
You try to push an Ottoman over and you can't really get it over?
You know what I'm talking about?
The Onio feed on?
I feel like he would be like three Ottomans just stacked on top of each other, man.
Is he a pretty cool guy?
He's real cool.
He's really, really cool.
Do you talk to other guys?
Say you're going to fight Diaz.
Will you talk to other guys that have fought him?
If there's somebody in my camp who's fought him, then we'll talk, but I don't go searching or trying to find somebody's input.
Yeah.
But if, like I said, if there's somebody at the gym who's fought him, they'll give me some input.
Right.
Right.
Do you like, when you're envisioning it, are you just thinking about the fight?
Do you like, do you have any like mental stuff where you like envision like after the fight?
Like, do you have any sort of like, I guess, stuff where you kind of like go through things in your head kind of?
Or what's some of your procedure?
Yeah.
You know, fight week, I think I try to focus a lot on being in the moment.
Like tomorrow is going to come.
Like, you know, Sunday after the fights, I'm going to go home to my family.
Everything's going to be okay, but I just need to focus on right now.
Not yesterday, not tomorrow.
I just need to be right now in the moment, be aware of everything, be okay with myself.
It's a weird feeling, but I know how I need to feel and I know my mindset, how it needs to be.
That's a huge part of fighting is mindset.
It took me a long time to realize that.
Really?
Yeah.
I mean, the biggest weapon you can have.
Wow.
And so do you see it on some of the younger guys now?
You're like, oh, I used to be just like that.
All the time.
How funny is that?
Yeah, all the time.
And I'm like, just hearing stuff, not only the way they act in practice, but some of the stuff they say.
I'm like, man, you got a knucklehead.
Dude, that's one thing.
It's kind of interesting how, like, as you get, as you get more up in your field or as you spend more time in it, yeah, just looking back at me like, man, especially when you said, like, oh, I would have thought that that would the end of the world.
And everything, what, I can remember when I was a young fighter, I lost a fight or got hurt in practice or something didn't come together.
Our sponsor fell through the way.
I didn't think it was going to come in.
And like, I thought it was the end.
Like, I was like, oh, my God, this is such a huge, what am I going to do?
This matters so much.
And man, you know, I'm a fighter.
Having a daughter has helped me a lot.
Put things into perspective.
Really?
Fighting is just something I do.
I love it.
And I'm passionate about it.
And I'm addicted to it.
And I want to be the best in the world.
But at the end of the day, that's just fighting, man.
I'm a father.
Right.
And she has a life and I'm a husband and a son.
Like that stuff, it took me a long time to realize that.
But that stuff is, and looking at it this way, caring less, caring less about fighting, I feel like I'm a better fighter now.
Yeah.
Oh, that's powerful, man.
It took me a long time to realize that, man.
That's powerful stuff.
And do you think some of that stuff is just stuff that comes with age?
Yeah, I'm Dustin Poirier.
Fighting is just something I do.
And I know that now.
Yeah.
I'm a bad motherfucker, though.
I know that too.
Dude, that's fucking wild, bro.
Imagine waking up in the morning and being a bad motherfucker.
I could never imagine.
Every morning.
Never goes away.
Every morning, bro.
That's fucking awesome, dude.
Fuck, dude.
I want to fight Nick.
When you, after the fight, is there something?
I was thinking about this, man.
Like, it's so rare, like, in my life, that I have things physically that make me feel like alive.
After a fight, whether you win or lose, I was looking at some pictures of you after a fight.
One of them, you had like a, like, I think you might have had a crutch or something.
I mean, I don't even know.
You were sitting on a table or something.
Just a couple different pictures.
And I was like, man.
And I couldn't tell if you'd won or lost the fights, right?
I didn't even know which fights they were from.
But I was just like, fuck, he looks so alive.
Like, there must be, is there something that just like.
To get in front of, well, I guess any fight with nobody's watching, it's just so pure combat one-on-one, man-on-man, just, you know, fighting to the finish.
Nobody's jumping in.
It's just you guys are going to handle this business and somebody's going to get beat up.
And that's so pure.
And like, after you go through that, it's almost spiritual.
You know, after a fight, it's like almost spiritual.
Like, I just, I elevated my life.
I walk away from fights like I'm a different person.
I have a different view of the world.
Like, it's weird, man.
It really is.
And it's a rush.
I can only get from that.
Right.
Yeah.
Win, lose, or draw.
The next day, I get on that airplane to go home or to go wherever we're going.
And I just feel like I just went through a spiritual journey, you know?
And that's win, lose, or draw.
You feel that same kind of, you have that same moment where, wow, I went through.
You know, winning is obviously the best thing.
It's like a trip or something.
Like, you're tripping.
You can have a good trip or a bad trip.
Obviously, losing is you're on a bad trip.
Right.
But it's just that.
It's just a high that you're on and you can only get it from that.
And it's just, it's a crazy thing to do, man.
I could imagine.
It seems, yeah, it would almost be like taking a drug or something.
And back in the day, like I was saying about innocence, I kind of missed that innocence.
There wasn't as much on the line.
I was just fighting for the love of fighting.
Now there's bills on the line and got to get home healthy to my daughter.
None of that stuff was in my mind as a young fighter.
It was just, you know, let's bleed.
You know, let's put on a show for 500 bucks.
Let's just hope nobody dies.
Crazy.
But now it's like so much on the line every time I step in there.
Yeah.
And it's spiritual.
Yeah, it seems like that.
It seemed like it would almost be like a native.
Yeah, it almost seems like, yeah, it made me wonder when I look at that kind of stuff.
And I just look at the pictures after, I was like, man, it seemed like no matter what, I couldn't tell if you won or lost or whatever it was, but what if, yeah, you would learn something about yourself, you know?
Yeah.
Like they say, adversity introduces a man to himself.
Yeah.
So when you win, you learn the whole camp, but when you lose, you learn a lot about who you are too.
Wow.
And, you know, I've lost five times in my professional career.
Yeah, what have you learned, man?
I mean, I feel like every time I've lost, I've made huge adjustments and explored those reasons I've lost, and I've always learned from it.
Really?
Yeah, every time, every single time.
So you'll go back and even look at like, okay, this specific moment or two that contributed to the loss and you'll become more aware specifically of that, you feel like?
Yeah.
And whether if it was a technical thing I did wrong, then I go back and work on ways to round that out and make everything smoother, not get in that position again.
But sometimes it's mental, you know?
Yeah.
The kicks piss me off, dude.
I don't like when people kick that much.
I don't like dick kicks.
Really?
People do that?
No, I mean, not supposed to, but it happens.
Really?
Oh, yeah.
Are there people out there that just do it just that's there's probably people out there who do it to get a breather, you know?
Oh, yeah.
You get one warning, right?
Oh, I'll fucking burn that bitch.
I burned that bitch at the start of the second round.
It's like a free timeout in there.
So I dick kick.
Yeah, let's run up and both kick each other in the dick real fast and take a break.
You Get a five-minute break, man.
And there's no timeouts or anything.
No, of course not.
Fuck.
Yeah.
Once the bell rings, you go.
Yeah?
Oh, yeah.
You go.
And do you, is there like a moment in the fight?
Say if a fight goes five rounds, right?
If it goes through all of them.
Is there usually like kind of a flow to a fight or is it different every time?
Like if it goes five rounds, like if it.
There's definitely different rhythms in fights.
You kind of know me from fighting so long and having so many fights, like I know how I'm feeling in the fight, how we're matching up, what I'm doing, what I need to switch, things like that.
But every fight's different, man.
Every fight is a different.
Damn.
With that between three and five round fights, are you pacing yourself more in the five?
Are you full speed?
I think my last three or four fights have all been five round scheduled for five, and I fight the same.
You know, I prepare differently.
I try to get there a little bit lighter so I'm not cutting as much weight.
So like the fatigue doesn't set in over the, you know, dehydration and stuff doesn't mess me up if we do go four or five rounds.
But I fight from bell to bell, whether it's three rounds or five.
When you, it's so, it's different seeing you like some of your more recent fights and your beginning fights.
It's so different.
Do you notice that when you watch them?
Oh, for sure.
Big time.
And I was a maniac.
I was just throwing punches and eyes closed, swinging for the fences.
Yeah.
Yeah, one's like watching almost a kid and one is more like watching a man.
Do you notice that when you see them?
Yeah, and it is that.
I grew up in this sport.
So there's fights of me being a kid and there's fights of me being a professional fighter feeding his family.
That's wild.
Do we have any more questions, Nick?
Yeah, there's a couple more.
They're kind of silly, but let's take one, and then I just have one more question, and we'll probably be able to.
All right.
Oh, I had one more, actually.
Are there fights that you've had that were like on a card, but they weren't like pro fights that on your record, like in Louisiana, like just in a bar in a cage?
So everywhere's different.
And I didn't know that till I got out of Louisiana.
In Florida, you have to have like, they can't knee to the head and you can't all kind of weird.
You have to have bigger gloves and you have to wear shin pads if you're an amateur.
So I have nine fights in Louisiana that aren't on my pro record that are pro fights.
Wow.
Right.
Yeah, the same rules.
Yeah.
Small gloves, knees, you know, some of them where you're allowed to elbow.
So those just aren't on my record.
Yeah.
And I've never really been out of Louisiana until I started traveling for fighting.
Really?
Yeah.
So getting on a plane to go fight somebody.
Damn.
First time on a plane is pretty crazy, you know?
It's like the military.
It's like Vietnam.
It's like a lot of people, the first time they got on a plane was just to go fight somebody, you know?
Damn.
But yeah, here's our last question then.
I was wondering if arguably the best fighter of all time fighting this weekend, Artem Lobo, how do you think you must have been against him?
Thank you, and good luck.
So for those that are only listening, he asked with the greatest fighter of all time, Artem Lobov, coming up fighting next weekend, how does Dustin think you would do against him?
Do you want to give a little background on that?
The GOAT, Artem Lobov, is one of Conor McGregor's training partners.
I'm looking forward to watching him fight, man.
How would I match up against him?
I would stop him.
Who do you like to watch fight?
I like to watch fighters, fighters.
Guys like Nate Diaz.
I like watching him fight.
His brother.
Nick Diaz?
Yeah, I like watching both of them.
Eddie Alvarez, you know, Justin Gachie.
Some of the guys that I've fought are really fun guys.
That's why I take those fights, though.
Guys who I like to watch fight, it excites me.
That's the kind of fights I want to be part of.
So that's why I fight a lot of those guys.
Yeah.
Dang, dude.
So now, how many fights will you get presented that you will be, and you might be like, ah, not for me.
It happens a good bit probably then.
Guys that want to take a shot at you?
Not as much as you think.
Really?
Yeah.
It's not like they send me a list of five names and say, here, pick a guy.
Yeah.
It just kind of comes together at times.
Right.
You know, like, hey, this guy, it seems like it's a decent matchup and he's going to be willing to fight.
It just comes down to timing.
He wants to fight this month.
You said you'll be ready to fight this month.
You want to do this?
Yes or no?
Kind of that thing.
It's not like I have a choice that often, but I'll ask for certain people.
Yeah.
And then that's when they make it happen.
And do you, so say if some come in, will you like, do you decide immediately, usually, what's your process?
Do you kind of take a beat?
When they call me with a fight, I call my coaches.
I say, hey, what do you think about this matchup?
And then we take the fight.
I've never turned down one.
You haven't?
No.
Wow.
Pretty fascinating.
You got this, they got that Cormier Lewis fight coming up.
Yeah, the Black Beast.
Dude, it sounds fucking crazy.
I can't even believe they're going to let these guys fucking fight each other.
Dude, Daniel, they're both taking it pretty quick.
Yeah.
Lewis just fought and Daniel was.
He fought two months ago at most.
Yeah, yeah.
What happens in that?
What is a negative about taking a fight quickly?
The good thing is these guys are heavyweights, so they're not going to be far off.
They can weigh whatever up to 265 pounds.
So they're not going to have to cut weight.
For me, it would be a scramble because I'm obviously going to be a lot heavier than I would be after a whole training camp.
So I'd have a lot of weight to cut.
You got to go in there and cut it up.
Oh, yeah, that would be really bad.
But you don't get time to train for the opponent.
You don't get a lot of those sparring rounds and a lot of mat time that preparing for a specific style.
There's lots of downfalls to taking short fights like that.
What do you see happening in the Lewis Cormier fight?
I think Daniel's going to take him down.
He's not going to take the risk of throwing punches with the real heavyweight.
Daniel's a big guy, but Lewis is a lot bigger.
And he's known for knocking people out.
I think Daniel's going to wrestle him.
So if you got a guy that's trying to knock you out, you got to slow him down usually then.
Yeah, or you can break it down and try to counter punch him.
And there's so many things you can do.
Were you right-handed or left-handed when you were a kid?
Right-handed.
And are you both-handed now?
Yeah, I use both hands for different things, but I fight left-handed now.
Really?
Yeah.
Fuck, bro.
That's crazy, dog.
I realize, like, if I'm, I notice this, if I'm going to, like, do, like, hopscotch, I start on my left foot.
Yeah.
I notice that, yeah.
I can go right, but mostly I'm more left, man.
Yeah, I just don't have that many athletic skills.
Like a sprint, you would start with doing...
I wouldn't sprint anymore.
me either, man.
My hip.
Yeah, I would shut it down.
So the stem cells, you'll know in three weeks then?
Well, I think I'll know before they said I'll be able to go back to training in three weeks.
I'll know before then.
I'll know how I'm feeling like within a week of the shots.
Right.
Yeah.
They're also doing synovial fluid, so my joint is going to be, you know, lubricated.
Okay.
Getting oil changed, dog.
That's it, huh?
So, dude, and that's just now, do you just really need enough to be able to get to that fight?
Is that kind of how you think about it?
Well, they told me, I mean, yeah, as long as I can have a healthy training camp and then fight, whatever happens after that just happens.
That's kind of my mindset, but I want to do the right things.
And they told me that this could be anywhere from eight months relief to a year and a half.
It's hard to tell.
Everybody's different.
Okay, so this is kind of like, I remember I got a part of my disc taken out once, and they give you like the same thing they give women when they're pregnant.
They give them epidurals, right?
And so that would make it so then totally like my back would be fine for like six to eight months.
And then it would just get kind of bad again.
But maybe it's similar.
This is a little bit different, I think.
Yeah, maybe it's not even similar.
Oh, let's take one more question, man, and then we'll shut it down.
What's up, baby girl?
This is Eric Collin from Denver, Colorado.
And I thought you got that bad boy, the diamonds, on your show.
And I got a question for him.
Sorry, I'm talking kind of faster than doing some drugs.
Cocaine.
But yeah, my question is, what was the craziest street fight he's ever seen or been a part of?
And Theo, I think I know yours.
It was when you ran into the headbutton champ and it didn't go your way.
But Theo, take care, and we'll try and stop doing cocaine soon.
All right, boys.
Yeah, take care.
Good luck.
Good luck.
Yeah, good luck.
Stopping doing cocaine, bro.
Oh, man.
I haven't been part of a street fight.
And to answer that question, I haven't been part of a street fight, and I don't know how long.
I don't want to do that.
I don't want to.
I'm off the clock.
Yeah.
Did you ever see any, though?
Have you ever seen some real wild ones?
Dude, last one that I could think of that I've been in was one Mardi Gras down in Lafayette, Louisiana.
I was at my brother's house, and it was like a street party.
You know, the whole, everybody's out on the street.
And my wife was leaning over a fence talking to somebody.
And then guys from next door came over and like bent over her back while she was bending over and put his hand on her stomach and like started talking in her ear.
And then, bro.
You just saw red, huh?
Yeah.
I ripped him off.
I had a buddy of mine who fights.
He started dropping this other guy's people left and right.
Dude, I mean, dude, 100%.
Every shot that landed, everybody fell.
100%.
He shot 100% from the field that night.
Then I started punching this guy, and then he had a lot more friends than we did.
And my brother is not a fighter, so he didn't run out of the house to come fight, but it was just like people were fighting everybody.
He was a referee in the.
Yeah, and I ended up getting my back up against a car because they were jumping.
I was like, yeah, and I got hit with a bunch of uppercuts.
It was crazy, man.
Mardi Gras.
Mardi Gras things.
Mardi Gras' fun, though.
Yeah, yeah.
Anything can happen at Mardi Gras, dude.
I love that, dude.
My buddy, some guy slept in his truck all night one year.
I slept in a portal at one time in New Orleans, man.
I didn't have a place.
Yeah.
Oh, like a Port-a-Potty?
Yeah.
I mean, the seat was down, but yeah.
That's like the Ritz-Carlton compared to where some people sleep out there.
That's true.
It gets a little deep out there at Mardi Gras.
Dude, I love, that's one thing I do miss about Mardi Gras, man.
Everybody would drink all day and anything could happen.
Yeah.
You could start a family.
You could start a fire.
You could start a fight.
Anything could happen at Mardi Gras, man.
You'd end up with all kinds of strange people.
I miss that stuff, man.
I think some of what I miss really is just being young, you know, and not having those responsibilities.
Like, dude, I remember when I was young, you could take a nap and if you like, you didn't care how long it was.
You didn't set an alarm.
No.
Like, fuck it, bro.
I'm going to sleep.
I might wake up tomorrow.
Don't even matter.
Yeah, it don't even matter.
And now it's just like everything is more just, I guess, adult, you know?
But I guess that's part of growing up.
Well, man, we wish you the best of luck, dude.
Thank you so much for coming in, bro.
This is really, really cool.
Thanks for having me on, man.
Yeah, man.
Wish you the best of luck, man.
We're going to try and come out and see one of those fights.
That'd be dope, man.
If you're ever back in Louisiana anytime soon, dude, hit me up.
Yeah.
And I'll show you a good time.
Yeah.
We'll eat some Boudin crackling.
Dude, I'll come over there and do something, bro.
Something strange.
You know what I'm saying?
Dude, I'll eat some fucking fox.
I'll bring some fox meat.
Fight some kangaroos.
Well, they had a couple brothers that lived by me when I was in Baton Rouge.
They were always grilling dove outside of my apartment.
Dove.
Yeah.
And I go out there, dude, and these two black dudes was always cooking dove, dude.
And I don't usually eat peaceful birds, you know.
But then one day I was like, I'll fucking have some, man.
And it was good.
Keep it the violin birds most of the time, right?
Oh, dude, I'll fuck a toucan up.
You know what I'm saying?
Some toucan kebabs.
Forget about it.
Dustin Poirier, the diamond.
Best of luck in this upcoming fight, man.
I hope you heal up soon.
And we'll see you next time.
Thanks, brother.
Now I'm just floating on the breeze And I feel I'm falling like these leaves I must be cornerstone Oh, but when I reach that ground I'll share this peace of mind I found I can feel it in my bones.
But it's gonna take a little time for me to set that parking break and let myself all mine shine that light on me.
I'll sit and tell you my story.
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Ladies and gentlemen, I'm Jonathan Kite, and welcome to Kite Club, a podcast where I'll be sharing thoughts on things like current events, stand-up stories, and seven ways to pleasure your partner.
The answer may shock you.
Sometimes I'll interview my friends.
Sometimes I won't.
And as always, I'll be joined by the voices in my head.
You have three New voice messages.
A lot of people are talking about Kite Club.
I've been talking about Kite Club for so long, longer than anybody else.
So great.
Hi, Sweet.
Here's a deal.
Anyone who doesn't listen to Kite Club is a dodgy bloody wanker.
Jar mine.
Hi, I'll take a quarter pounder with cheese and a McFlurry.
Sorry, sir, but our ice cream machine is broken.
Oh, no!
*BEEP*
I think Tom Hanks just butt-dialed me.
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