Feb. 22, 2026 - The Political Cesspool - James Edwards
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David Zuddy, Homeland Institute’s executive director, warns of a looming U.S.-led war against Iran after carrier deployments and asset movements mirror the 2025 conflict, dismissing nuclear claims as pretext. His January–February poll of 815 white non-Hispanic voters shows majority support for mass deportations—even amid media narratives framing ICE crackdowns as violent—with backing for E-Verify and targeting criminal immigrants. Zuddy ties Iran’s potential wariness to U.S. public opinion shifts, predicting a stalemate favoring Tehran over Israel’s abandoned regime-change goals, while critics like Keith Alexander argue Iran won’t compromise. The episode suggests hardening conservative resolve on immigration despite collateral damage, mirroring historical indifference to state violence. [Automatically generated summary]
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The Political Cesspool, known across the South and worldwide as the South's foremost populist conservative radio program.
And here to guide you through the murky waters of the Political Cesspool is your host, James Edwards.
Welcome, everybody, to tonight's live broadcast of TPC Saturday evening, February the 21st.
James Edwards, along with Keith Alexander, and history has repeated itself for the second time in two months.
Indeed, on the very first hour of the very first show of 2026, the January 3rd broadcast of this year, David Zutty was our first guest this year, and he was being brought on to discuss something.
And then earlier that day, President Maduro was taken from Venezuela, and we repurposed David Zutty, ever so nimble as he always is, to talk about that, although that's not what he had been previously scheduled to talk about.
And lightning has struck again.
Our good friend David Zuddy, he is, well, he will still be talking about the results.
He's going to break down the recent Homeland Institute poll of 815 respondents who are politically and demographically representative of white non-Hispanic American registered voters.
He's going to share with us his findings on the public opinion regarding ICE and mass deportations.
We're going to do that later this hour.
But first, we have to begin, I believe, and I think he's uniquely qualified to speak on this as a former staff sergeant of the United States Air Force about the likelihood or perhaps even the inevitability of a United States war against Iran.
So that is where we're going to begin.
David Zuddy, the executive director of the Homeland Institute, and as I mentioned, former staff sergeant in the Air Force.
Welcome back.
Hey, flexibility is the key to air power, and it's great to be on, as always.
Whether it be on the air so as it is here tonight or as you used to be.
Well, here's the story, of course.
If anybody's been under a rock the last few days, I'll just read a couple of paragraphs from any number of establishment headlines about this.
The Trump administration is closer to a major war in the Middle East than most Americans realize, and it could begin very soon.
A U.S. military operation in Iran would likely be a massive weeks-long campaign that would look more like a full-fledged war than last month's pinpoint operation in Venezuela.
The sources noted that it would likely be a joint U.S.-Israeli campaign that's much broader in scope and more existential for the regime than the Israeli-led 12-day war last June, which the U.S. eventually joined to take out Iran's underground nuclear facilities.
Such a war would have a dramatic influence on the entire region and major implications for the remaining three years of Trump's presidency.
With the attention of Congress and the public otherwise occupied, there is little public debate about what could be the most consequential U.S. military intervention in the Middle East in at least a decade.
Staff Sergeant, what do you make of it?
Well, time definitely is cyclical.
It actually reminds me of a lot of the 12-day war.
And a point I want to make is that this is completely derailing our domestic policy of tariffs, mass deportations.
Originally, I published a poll about the 12-day war this summer, but then I actually had to add another poll finish first, which was about the immigration rights in Los Angeles.
Even though I finished the immigration poll first, I published the 12-day war poll first because that took precedence.
Well, the same thing has happened now.
Well, not exactly the same thing, but again, immigration is being overshadowed by pandering to the alleged so-called greatest friend and ally.
But as to war happening, this is my original prediction, was that once I heard that a second aircraft carrier was going over to that area, I thought that war would not start until the second carrier had arrived.
However, there's a possibility that they're going to jump the gun.
And it seems like this is, I want to say this, too, this does not seem like art of the deal.
They're moving a lot of assets.
I've looked at some of them, and these are things where once you control for the number of planes that are mission capable, it's a huge chunk of it.
It's critically weakening us other areas that we need to have our deterrence at.
And this is very dangerous because even if Trump thinks that he can do art of the deal here, when you have this many military forces confronting each other in a highly volatile region and making threats, it's very easy for something bad to happen either by accident or by subversion.
For example, the Chinese and Japanese went at it in World War II over the Marco Polo incident, Marco Polo Bridge incident.
Now, there are underlying issues I'll led up to that.
This wasn't simply an incident.
But somebody was firing a machine gun and probably a communist because the communists wanted the nationalist Chinese and the Japanese to kill each other so they could take power, which they did.
And the whole thing's fraud out of control.
It creates something where people like Mossad, who are known for waging war by deceit, could start something.
Also, there could be an incident.
You never know what could happen.
I thought then as this weekend became closer, I thought that they were going to strike this weekend.
Now, a big question here is, does Iran strike first?
Militarily, it wouldn't make sense for Iran to strike first because Israel and America have proven twice during the 12-day war, and I forget the exact details, but they do not negotiate in good faith.
They twice used negotiations as a cover to launch an offensive.
And that's part of the course because they feel entitled because of their Jewish or democracy or whatever.
So from a purely military perspective, Iran striking first would make sense, especially if you have the first strike, you have advantage.
Israel had a huge advantage during the original 12-day war because they struck first from within.
They can't do that again.
However, Iran is also very worried about looking like the aggressor in all of this because they understand that it's also a strategic game.
Also, the mullahs, the allegedly hardline clerics who run Iran, they're not as extreme as people make them out to be.
The IRGC would probably have already declared war.
However, they are not in charge of the country for now.
So I think Iran will probably wait it out, even though it doesn't make sense militarily, just to show how stupid this is.
And what this is coming down to, the reason why they're doing the strike, it has nothing to do with Iran's alleged nuclear program.
And by the way, Israel has one, too.
It has to do with declining support for Israel.
And we found this, if I could do a quick, you know, blast the past from the original poll from this summer about the 12-day war around July or 10.
Right, we found was a huge drop in people who said that the U.S. relationship with Israel was a major, I mean a huge spike in people saying that the U.S. relationship with Israel was a major net negative, especially amongst respondents age 18 to 29.
Now, I'm pretty sure that the Republican Party and Israel have their own internal, their own polls, which they don't share with us, showing the same or similar.
So this whole welfare queen status that Israel has, where they're babied, they're given both a lot of support directly and indirectly, and the indirect is oftentimes much worse.
Just catering to them and making the entire military policy center around central command, which means the Middle East.
We fought the entire so-called global war on terror for them, which was a disaster.
That's going to end.
This festival relationship will end one way or another.
And it's only a matter of time.
And also, that was already inevitable is going to accelerate the Epsom files.
I think part of this is, ironically, the Epsom files.
It's both the reason why it's happening.
It's maybe some way that we can try to prevent this from happening.
And if it does happen, absolutely rub this in the regime's face.
The reason why we're having war is because of people like Epsom through a combination of bribery, blackmail, and brainwashing.
But I still think it seems the latest thing I've heard is that they are going to delay it until Monday or Tuesday, or maybe they're going to wait for the second carrier to get in place, which would be another week or two.
But you never know.
A lot of this could also be false intel being put out there.
But they're not moving.
This means this means just to do artists to do art of the deal.
So I like to spread out our guests.
We have so many people that are great guests, and I like to rotate them without having people come in so close back to back.
However, it's my job to give folks the most informed opinions possible.
And when we're talking about something with Iran, I want a former staff sergeant.
I want a former government contractor who's worked there, like Patrick Barton, who's coming on in the next hour.
I want Mark Weber, who's been there, who knows the area, who studied it.
Mark will be on next week.
David, Mark sent me an email in advance of his appearance next week, which by then we very well may be at war.
We, quote unquote, may be at war.
Mark wrote this: A U.S. attack against Iran now looks very likely, all the same.
I very much hope that Trump will not make the fateful decision to launch a full-scale war.
There are so many reasons not to do so, which at least a few of those in his inner circle presumably understand.
And I'm still hopeful that he will not give the attack order.
However, to your point, David, you have talked about the amount of equipment that's been moved over there.
I've got it here as part of my research earlier this week.
And here's what they have moved.
It's been a rapid military buildup in the Middle East.
The U.S. has sent over 120 aircraft and multiple warships to the region.
And this includes stealth fighters, bombers, carrier strike groups to counter Iran.
You've got the USS Gerald Ford and Abraham Lincoln.
These are carrier strike groups.
You've got at least 12 U.S. ships that are positioned in the Middle East that include destroyers in the Red Sea and the eastern Mediterranean.
You've got more than 120 aircraft, including F-35s, F-22 stealth fighters, F-1516s, the E-3 Sentry planes that have already been deployed, and dozens of refueling planes.
Now, I guess you could move all that equipment over there as a bluff, but the more likely answer is they're getting ready to do something in a very big way.
So one last question to you before we go over to Keith on this.
Again, how would this be executed, and what would the fallout be for Trump?
Well, the midterms are already a lost cause due to the economy and being weak on deportations, but it would be a blue tsunami in the midterms, and then he would probably be impeached due to peach him over anything.
Now they're going to actually have substance to go on with either the Evsky files or this disastrous war.
And it's a disaster.
I think Congress might even vote for it.
I know that Massey's tried to stop that, but this could go forward.
I think what will happen is that they will do a huge something sneaky.
They might try to do it during negotiations yet again.
And it's going to we have to look at what did not happen last time.
What happened last time is that Hezbollah did not get involved.
Hezbollah could completely saturate Israel with missiles.
And a lot of the offensive capabilities of America are aircraft.
And they're very powerful.
How do you deal with an aircraft?
You wreck the airfield or you set the fuel on fire.
So we're going to see what happens.
I think it's not going to be quick and easy.
People are saying that, oh, our capabilities have evolved more.
Look at Venezuela.
So has Iran's.
And last time, Iran started on the really badly on the back foot with their air defense is being attacked from within with drones.
That won't happen again.
I think this will be a lot more.
And Venezuela is a completely dysfunctional country.
I was more in the Southcom, Latin America, AOR as a Spanish linguist.
Venezuela is a fake country.
They destroyed the white middle class there.
Venezuela was the equivalent of a video game tutorial.
Iran is an actual power.
Well, David, let me ask you this.
And I've got to get Keith in on this.
But to your point, I was talking with Keith during our pre-show supper tonight.
And it was a very weird thing last summer where Israel started this thing.
And on the night of June 21st, we were live on the air with the aforementioned Mark Weber when America, Trump, the United States, Zog, whatever you want to call it, dropped the bombs on the facilities there.
We were live on the air when that happens, and that was the night before my birthday, so I remember it fondly, or vividly at least.
It was June 21st.
And it was a 12-day thing.
And that was very odd to me because nothing really happened.
And I think nothing really happened because I think Iran outperformed the expectations that Israel had in penetrating the so-called Iron Dome.
I mean, Tel Aviv and a lot of the other places in Israel are getting hit pretty hard by Iran.
So I think that is, you correct me if I'm wrong because you've been in the military.
But do you think that's why it only lasted 12 days?
And now this is the reset that they needed six months later to go in and do what they had hoped they would have done last summer?
Absolutely.
It was a stalemate, but it was a stalemate that favored Iran because even though the missiles slowed down that were hitting Israel, they were bleeding interceptors very, very quickly.
I did some war gaming with Grok, which I do for current events, World War II.
I like to do it.
And they were going to run out of interceptors within months, probably.
And it's hard to, while this is classified, it's hard to really determine, but these things take a long time to build because capitalism and liberal democracy are not very efficient, unlike other systems.
So they depleted these interceptors.
So these interceptors could be quickly depleted in a war, even if it doesn't go well for Iran.
And two, Israel is a soft target.
They're a bunch of babies.
And what happened, and they're already in a bad economy.
What could happen is that if they have to call up a military that takes away workers, also if they start losing infrastructure, like the port gets shut down, it's a very small country.
It's about only twice the length of the length of Southern California.
You can shut down the ports there, the airports.
Nothing gets in or out.
It's a siege.
What would really break Israel would be the economy in this situation where people can't go to work.
They're going to the air raid shelter at night.
The stock market gets hit for real this time instead of just the general area being hit.
At that point, it's not sustainable, and it'll probably lead to another stalemate.
But this time the stalemate would probably come with a treaty that would be very humiliating for Israel, where they would have to give up their program.
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What I hope Iran does is that they try to make a deal where they say they'll give up their nuclear program in return for Israel giving up their nuclear program, which is illegal and secret.
But we know where they have it.
That's all Samson has to do with the program.
That would be a win for sure.
I don't know if I quite see Israel coming to the table on that.
Go, Keith.
Simply proposing it would be a huge diplomatic success because it would make Israel look irrational.
100%.
Well, if they killed John F. Kennedy and RFK, Kennedy, because they tried to shut down the nuclear program, I don't think they're going to bow to the mullet.
But I understand what David's saying.
I mean, as far as getting that out there in the public consciousness and for international debate, I mean, that is a smooth move.
But go, Keith.
Well, what happened before, I think that Netanyahu is up the ante because the first 12-day war showed how vulnerable Israel was to ballistic missiles.
Now they want them to take away their ballistic missiles as well as nuclear capacity.
And if they're left with no ballistic missiles, they basically are defenseless against the Israelis.
And I don't think, you know, that'd be just a prelude to another mop-up operation.
So they're not going to do that.
I think it would be absolutely absurd for Iran to jump the gun and attack first because I don't think that they can gain any really big strategic advantage from doing that.
They've still got the ballistic missiles and they can pour them in.
And they showed at the last 12-day kerfuffle that they are pretty effective.
But they don't have enough to really take Israel out.
So I think that basically what they want to do is respond and respond.
What I'm worried about is these aircraft carriers, I think, are obsolete armaments now.
I think one good missile could put one at the bottom of the sea.
And if they did that, who knows where this thing will end up.
They're going to have a lot of planes and ships they've got to put into the ground or sea if they're going to go to the camera.
Well, look, we've just got two aircraft carriers.
You take those two aircraft carriers out, you know, this thing could escalate into World War III.
What do you think, David?
Good question.
Good comments.
You guys are real boss.
Beg pardon?
Are you there?
We can't hear you.
Okay.
Hold on, Keith.
All right.
I've got an alternate number, Mr. Producer, if you need it.
In fact, matter of fact, I am going to.
All right, hang on.
I'm going to shoot it to you.
Well, Keith, continue with commentary while I send this over to the producers.
Well, see, what this is, basically, this is the last piece of the puzzle in the Clean Break Memorandum that was produced by Paul Wolfowitz, Martin Ledine, and Douglas Fife in the mid-90s in the Clinton State Department to have regime change in all of the Muslim neighbors of Israel so that Israel was the top dog, unquestionably without a peer in the area.
And basically, they've accomplished all of that with the exception of Iran.
So Iran now is, you know, they're pressing hard to get this last piece of the puzzle in so that they can basically be the hegemon of the Middle East, I think.
All right, David, sorry for that disruption there.
We got you back, my producer tells me.
So you can take it in any way you want.
But Keith, I would just ask you one more thing.
We were talking about this earlier as well.
I mean, we hear all of this stuff about our ally.
We're going to war with our ally.
It's going to be a joint operation with our ally.
What has Israel ever done for us exactly?
You had a great answer earlier tonight.
Well, they haven't done, look, the thing...
Now, what have they done for the congressman?
Oh, they give millions of dollars to congressmen and get billions of dollars of aid and support in return.
So they're an ally to the United States government in that way.
Well, the thing is, there's a vassal-lord relationship here, but America is a vassal and they're the Lord, I think.
But in any event, they certainly don't do anything for the United States proper in terms of its citizens.
They certainly pay off politicians.
Well, every American president since Woodrow Wilson has been under their thumb, unfortunately.
And I don't think a lot of people realize that.
But, you know, Trump doesn't want to die like JFK and RFK, and that's probably the main reason.
Well, I do want to say one thing about Trump.
And again, there are people, David, you know this.
There are people out there on our side.
White nationalists to, no matter what Trump does, they creatively find a way to make it look bad.
And there are some people on the MAGA tier that are, you know, not necessarily adjacent to us, but somewhere out there in the orbit or universe, that no matter what Trump does, it's gold.
And we try to cover him objectively here.
And I think looking at this is you can say that, yes, the deportations have underwhelmed.
There's no doubt about that.
But the border crossings have stopped.
There's been a rollback of DEI.
We're definitely, our mutual friend, David Cyan, was speaking at an event last week, a very, you know, prominent event.
And she said everything that she heard there coming from young Republicans sounds like something you would hear at Amran.
So, you know, a lot of that has been fostered in the Trump era, and he has deserved some credit.
However, this is an absolute F-minus, you know, what we're seeing.
And so, you know, I think with regard to the kid on the block still is, and it's still Israel.
The ongoing coverage of Trump just needs to be objective to the extent that it can be.
I know it's hard.
Everybody's emotional.
But anyway, all that being said, again, going back to your experience as a member of the United States Air Force, how do you see this playing out in the next couple of days?
We got about two, well, we actually got about three or four minutes left.
Then we're going to switch over to this poll that the Homeland Institute conducted, which is the reason you're here tonight, believe it or not, folks.
Go, David.
I think it will be another stalemate.
It will be even more in Iran's favor.
And what will happen is that there will be some type of treaty where they will have to simply probably drop regime change against Iran.
Iran knows that, you know, Trump thinks that he can do this art of the deal on people, and it works in business.
It does not work in politics or war.
Trump has also floated the absolutely retarded idea of doing a limited strike on Iran.
And this is, again, this is a businessman thinking that war and politics are about business.
Machiavelli said something to the effect that wars begin whenever you will, but they don't end when you please.
So he can start this.
It may not end how he likes it.
And once it starts, Iran probably won't stop until they back off and there's some type of concession.
Well, I don't think they're ever going to back.
The thing is, I don't think that Israel will accept half a loaf on anything.
Well, this is the thing.
I mean, you know, so we, you know, you could say that conditions have improved in some areas for whites, and it's certainly with regard to discourse.
There's just no doubt about that.
A lot of the executive orders could be rolled back, but you could say that about any president.
However, this is what Israel gets for the hooks that they have in Trump.
There's just, I mean, we see that clearly.
However, I'm very interested before we pivot and use the remainder of our time this hour to talk about the poll.
We're going to continue the conversation about Iran with former government contractor Patrick Martin in the second hour.
Stay tuned for that.
But I am fascinated, David, by your assessment that, you know, I'm looking at all of this, again, this equipment that the United States is moving over there, you know, preparing it apparently for a strike.
And you think Iran can weather this coming storm?
If they knock it out, we've lost two-thirds of our military capacity.
Well, go ahead.
Please.
If I can speak to that, the Houthis who do not even control all of their own country forced the Navy to sign a white peace with them, basically, and make peace, non-aggression pact.
And that's because you have to understand that the weapons that Zog uses to counter Iranian weapons are much more expensive than Iranian weapons.
This is oftentimes a matter of money as much as firepower.
So they can deplete his interceptors.
The Navy multiple times depleted its interceptors while fighting Houthi pirates who are some random faction left over from the Arab Spring that somehow survived.
And it is a lot more sophisticated.
Also, they're trying to capitalize on the protests that were crushed a few weeks ago.
And they think they can probably have.
I think what they are banking on is that there will be an internal revolution within Iran.
That's not going to happen because what happened is that Trump and Puff Lavi basically instigated a January 6th there where they told everybody, we're going to come save you, overthrow your regime.
You're peaceful protesters.
They weren't.
They were actually, unlike the J6ers, they were setting mosques and government buildings on fire.
They were shooting at the security forces.
So, no, this is not a peaceful protest for freedom.
This was a violent insurrection, a real one.
And they were put down.
A lot of these people, not all of them, but a lot of them were killed or put in jail.
And so an uprising probably won't happen.
And this is all very, this feels rushed due to, I think, that uprising and the Epstein files.
And so I'll say Trump isn't Trump, like the infamous Richard Spencer, is an egomaniac.
Got something that's good, but sometimes it's bad, and it's going to go up in space.
Well, hey, listen, my friend, you've been in the Air Force, and I haven't, so your opinion on how this thing could play out is more informed than mine.
That's why you're here tonight.
We'll be back.
We're going to talk about this poll more on Iran in the second hour.
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I want to thank again the former Staff Sergeant of the United States Air Force, David Zutty, for giving us his opinion on how this thing may go, his commentary.
Really appreciate that, David.
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Of course.
Yeah, my father was a tech sergeant, by the way, David, in Patton's Army.
So I don't know if they still have the same breakdown they used to.
Staff Sergeant was, what, one extra strike, tech, two, and sergeant major was three.
Is that right?
You have accepted Master Sergeant now.
Okay.
Did your dad ever think he fought for the wrong side?
Did your dad ever think he fought for the wrong side?
No, but if he thought that he was fighting for the right side, he was wrong.
General Patton figured it out.
All right, all right, all right.
We're having too much fun now.
Okay, but now David is going to take off his military hat and put on the hat that he wears as the very capable and always interesting executive director of the Homeland Institute.
So we've had David on.
He has become a fast and favorite guest over the last few years, making very regular appearances on our annual broadcast calendar in recent years to talk about these polls.
It is the only pro-white polling institution that I know of.
And as you know, folks, of course, another big thing that has been going on this year and has dominated some of our coverage in January was the situation in Minneapolis, where there in Minnesota it became a flashpoint between immigration enforcement and anti-ICE protesters.
In response, David and his Homeland Institute polled 815 respondents who are politically and demographically representative of white, non-Hispanic, registered voters between the end of January through February the 8th of this year.
And essentially, the question was to gauge public opinion on ICE and mass deportation.
So he's not polling TPC's audience.
He's not polling Homeland Institute supporters.
He's not polling counter-current readers.
He is polling generally average American white people.
David, what were the findings?
This is a very interesting question because, I mean, Trump capitulated.
I mean, if you can't beat Tim Waltz, I don't know how you beat Iran.
I mean, that should be one thing.
But I'm very interested to see what average American whites thought about this.
Yeah, so two quick points to make on Rand before I go to this.
It's not how hard you hit, it's how hard you can get hit and keep moving forward.
And two, if America wins initially in the war, somebody will probably have to occupy the country one way or another.
I don't think there's going to be Kumbayan, Sunshines, and Democracy springing forward spontaneously.
We saw that with Bush declaring mission accomplished, and that didn't work out.
But turning to this, where we, you know, Trump bravely retreated like Sir Robin and Monty Python from Minneapolis due to the kamikaze Karen arsenal they had.
Well, that whole drama, which unfortunately was derailed by current events, but what happened is that the media tried to turn Renee Goode and Alex Preeti into martyrs.
And they essentially got justice.
The consequences of their actions caught up with them.
And the media, of course, lies through their teeth.
Now we do have X and other places like Gab where we can speak the truth.
However, that didn't work.
The mainstream media with either not covering it or lying through their teeth without consequence were able to paint Renee Goode and Alex Preeti's deaths as somehow unjustified.
And both this poll and other polls have found that.
And that sounds bad.
Do you think that means we can't do mass deportations?
We should retreat.
No, because what happened is that the people still overwhelmingly support mass deportations.
And that's very good.
So it's not as high as it used to be when Trump first took office, but still very high.
There's still a majority, including amongst independents.
So that's good.
And we shouldn't be allow losing.
In a way, it's a bittersweet thing where, yes, we've allowed them to defame ICE, which is a problem, but it's not really a problem with this.
And it's good that at some level, maybe voters are still agreement, but they seem to be maturing or understanding that sometimes bad things happen.
Just because some people die doesn't mean we can't have a serious country anymore.
I think if the Kent State massacre happened today, people wouldn't blink an eye.
They'd say, well, maybe it wasn't unjustified, but we're not going to turn this into a national tragedy.
Like Kent State, there were hippie songs about it.
I wasn't around back then, of course, but it seemed like a big deal.
This seems to be not going away, but not really a national tragedy.
People have bigger things to think about, and that's a good thing.
We're finally becoming a historical and political people.
And what's good is that they also understand that even though they think ISIS is too aggressive, Preeti and what's her name, Renee Goode were martyrs, but they still want mass deportations, the rate of mass deportations to increase.
And they also agreed with a very important question, which is that it doesn't make sense to claim to support mass deportations, but then fold when people resist, and it requires coercion.
And it's important that I asked that question about folding and coercion after I asked them about Alex Preeti and Renee Goode.
So that's good that they understand that just because people resist, bad things happen, you have to restore order.
That is specifically about restoring order in Minneapolis.
And though I didn't ask about Charlie Kirk in this poll, that's a separate poll.
You can look it up on homelandinstitute.org.
It's a simple fact that if we don't bring law and order, this leftist violence will continue.
There will continue to be kamikaze Karens running their cars into agents, people who will have scuffles with law enforcement while armed.
And I'm not a very tactical guy, but everyone who knows anything about firearms knows that when you are carrying a weapon, you better be very polite because things in escalation, if you have any type of interaction with law enforcement beyond high, you need to tell them that you are armed.
So he is completely way out of line on that.
He is not being a responsible gun owner.
Shame on him.
That's your public service announcement for the day.
Well, let me say this.
We can't give the left Kodak moments like this.
This is the civil rights movement being replayed all over again.
You know, they would spit on the police, throw dog feces at them, cups of urine, and then when they finally provoked a response, that's when the cameras would roll back then.
We didn't have cell phones taking pictures of everything.
But we don't need to fall into that trap.
Basically, the trap that we have, and the reason why some people say that Trump is focusing on foreign affairs rather than domestic affairs, which is really what everybody is concerned about, is because of lawfare.
We've got liberal Jewish judges like Boesberg and others that are setting up roadblocks.
And, you know, we've got to play this thing smarter.
We don't need to play harder.
We need to play smarter.
And what we need to do, rather than getting in these little dramas out there that can be filmed, we need to just turn off the money faucet and stop sending any welfare to Minnesota, telling them that they've demonstrated that they are incapable of handling the program.
And, you know, and if you want to get the attention of a liberal, it says nothing gets the attention of a liberal like the click of a closing post.
I've heard that for so many decades.
Well, everything that you said there, Keith, is right and well and good.
But what David's talking about right now, what to me is very encouraging.
Now, you can go to homelandinstitute.org, homelandinstitute.org.
You'll find this poll that David is talking about.
And I think, again, just right there at the very top of the masthead, when you click on this particular link, it's a February 10th posting, ICE and mass deportations.
David, your findings, this very scientific poll.
Despite thinking that ICE is too aggressive and that the deaths of Renee Good and Alex Preeti were unjustified, white voters still overwhelmingly support mass deportations.
That is a huge takeaway from this poll that nobody's talking about.
And number two, despite nominal opposition to policies which may be necessary to restoring order, such as invoking the Insurrection Act and suspending habeas corpus, respondents still overwhelmingly agree that failing to restore order will encourage more violence in the long term.
So that shows that Weitz, the base Trump voter, is with him.
And so it begs the question, astonishingly, why did he pull out and give a big win to Tampon Tim?
He is a merchant and a businessman.
He's not a warrior.
He's not a warrior.
He's not a real politician or leader.
He's not a statesman.
And this has been a constant problem throughout Republican politics in America.
You have this love of business and money.
And then we tend to promote either lawyers or businessmen.
I speak as a lawyer.
These things do not translate well into power conflicts based upon power as opposed to money.
And I want to partially agree and partially disagree.
I think we should continue this because if we back down or are perceived as backing down, that's going to encourage leftist violence.
They have never taken any type of reasonable behavior on us as a good way.
They only understand force.
And here's the thing: they believe that they're living in a Marvel movie in a fourth Reich, Handmaid's Tale, Harry Potter with Voldemort in charge, fantasy.
But they do not suffer any consequences for it.
This is dangerous because it gets them riled up, but not injured.
And Machiavelli said, again, you need to either treat your people generously or destroy them.
They take revenge for slight injuries for heavy ones.
They cannot.
So we have to crush them.
I think, too, we can get away with it because, one, we have, like you said, cell phones.
We can document it.
People are also seeing through the narrative of victimhood.
And also, people are just desensitized to violence.
They're a little bit nihilistic now.
That's a bad thing in Germany.
Quick timeout, David Zuddy.
HomelandInstitute.org.
One more segment on this recent poll about ICE and mass deportations.
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But first, let's wrap up our opening hour with David Zuddy.
So, you know, as we mentioned, of course, we cited his career in the U.S. Air Force when he had that cap on to talk with us in the first couple of segments about what's going on in Iran.
I mean, now we're talking about his work with the Homeland Institute, where he serves as the executive director.
But as you mentioned, he is also, in addition to all of that, an attorney by trade.
So a very talented and well-informed guest, to be sure.
They're at thehomelandinstitute.org.
Let me just first recap, if you're a first-time listener tonight, what the Homeland Institute is.
They seek to create a new social scientific study of the consequences of multiculturalism and globalization.
The Homeland Institute will comment on existing studies and policies and explore the principle and moral rationales for globalization, multiculturalism, and the great replacement.
Finally, David Zutty and his team there explore the sensible and humane alternatives to multiculturalism and globalization on all levels of society, from neighborhoods and school districts to nation states and transnational organizations.
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However, the Homeland Institute also proposes alternative policies and legislation.
You can find out more information at homelandinstitute.org.
But we are talking again with its executive director about this most recent poll.
Just a couple of days ago, it came out, a few days ago now, February the 10th.
ICE and mass deportations.
Give us your, if you go there, I mean, we're giving you the broad strokes tonight, Commercial Talk Radio, we give you the Cliff's notes.
But if you want to really dive into each question and all of the statistics there, please do.
But David, take us now to your five takeaways there at the bottom.
Yes, I break it down on the website based by party, usually and occasionally by age or other metrics.
So you can get all the 14.9% that you want.
But I'm not going to bog you down with precise stats right now.
But this is very big is that going back to how I partially agreed with how we need to maybe do things a little bit softer, is that people were in very strong agreement with some of these softer tactics, which would actually be more effective.
For example, they do agree to prosecuting oligarchs.
I use the term businessmen or employers who employ illegal labor because they're the ones enriching it.
They're the ones who make it possible.
They're really the head honcho of a criminal organization if you think about it.
And the problem with this is that that's going to be Trump's donors.
And that's why he's not going after them and they should be the ones put into jail.
It'll also be easier because all these little writers like Renee Goode who are the Antifa or Antifa adjacent, they are sympathetic figures to liberal juries.
Businessmen are not, even when they are being woke capitalist and hiring illegals and putting trans flags on their products.
You simply have a higher chance of prosecuting them in court, even with liberals, I would think.
It will still be difficult, but it's less of a long shot.
And also the processes of punishment, these are the people who are really driving the engine of mass migration, both legal and illegal, are these greedy oligarchs who want slave labor.
And support was not very high for doing sweeps of the agriculture or hotel industries, but that's where they're at.
If they were doing these aggressive mass ICE deportations out in the countryside with all these farms that employ illegals, it'd be harder for the Kamikazi Carrington to drive out there.
Now, some of them probably would because they are fanatics, but it wouldn't be this chaotic urban environment.
And it'd be easier to sweep them up that way.
Well, the easy way to do it, though, I was just going to say this.
They can start depopulating red states of all these illegal aliens rather than going up into the blue states where they're provoking all the resistance and get his numbers up before the November election.
That's what I would suggest you do.
Right.
And there's been some mixed signals where JD Vance and others have said that, yes, they're doing immigration of horsemen in red areas, and we simply aren't hearing about it because it's not dramatic.
But I don't know.
I haven't seen like, originally in California, we had these, you saw images, and ICE likes to publicize their stuff too.
So we would know if it was happening, they were showing images of, and video too, of dramatically going after these migrants in the fields and all that.
And I don't see that.
So I got to see it to believe it.
And another option we have that's softer but maybe more effective is also making e-Verify mandatory.
So that's a federal program website where you can check people's employment status to see if they're legal to work in America.
And it's free.
It only takes a little bit of time.
It doesn't take money.
But employers don't use it.
And when they don't use it, unless it's like maybe a small business, what I'm thinking is that it's reckless.
They don't really care.
They'll let someone lie to them on purpose.
And they should be charged with constructive knowledge of recklessly hiring illegals.
And they're just being willfully blind.
And that was very high for people who want to make E-Verify mandatory.
And again, going back to what people want, and they're unphased despite all the media winning on the narrative about ICE is bad, Renee Good is good.
That didn't translate to policy about deportations because there's still very, very high support for deporting all illegal immigrants to criminal records.
Now, yes, I think they all have a criminal record because they shouldn't be here.
Crossing the border illegally is a crime or overstaying a visa.
But there is high support for that even amongst Democrats.
Almost 20% strongly supported amongst Democrats.
40% support it.
So we can go after these illegal immigrants, like the ones who are being broadcasted on the worst of the worst website that DHS put up where they're like Pokemon.
You can see their heinous crimes and where they're from, their gang affiliation and their tacky tattoos.
What these Democrats are doing, like Tim Waltz and Gavin Newsom, they're supporting something that even their own base is opposed to.
They don't want the criminal ones.
See, there's not enough of their thing is we need to get the numbers way down because even if you just get the good people, quote unquote, and not the worst of the worst, they are transforming our culture and our society and our civilization in ways we don't want it done.
So that's why I say go after the red state people, get them out, get your numbers up so that you can advertise that as a talking point for the upcoming November election.
Well, look, I mean, he won the president.
Yeah, sorry.
Sorry.
Yeah, he's won twice on this, maybe three times, but at least twice.
And your findings, David, in this poll suggest that it's a winning issue, but yet still we're not seeing it to the extent that he promised.
Go ahead.
You take the remainder of the ballot.
There's very strong support.
There's about 50-50 support overall for going after all illegals, regardless of whether or not they have criminal records.
And support could definitely be higher for reducing the amount of legal immigration.
However, Trump already has reduced it a little bit.
And two, this is one of those things where people will simply have to accept it and accept it as a new normal.
And I think they will accept it as a new normal, and we don't need to allow ourselves to be phased by the poll numbers because it'll make the economy better.
When wages go up and rents go down because supply and demand is not magically suspended when migration is involved, people will accept it as a new normal.
These people accepted masks as a new normal.
They'll accept these people who shouldn't belong here and showed up during Biden and have invaded Costco leaving too.
And we absolutely can do that.
And it's not as bad as you think it is.
It's still, it could be higher, but it isn't as abysmal as you think, especially if you kind of ignore the Democrats who are a lost cause and look at independents and Republicans.
But something to work there.
People, you know, the left, they started out with gay marriage.
They escalated to transgenderism, then to transing kids.
Well, we can also do the same thing with remigration.
We absolutely can make this a real thing.
We have to be as aggressive as the left in promoting our ideas.
And yes, we need to take stock, see where we're at objectively, but don't let that phase us.
Always ask for more.
We can change public policy.
We can change public opinions through all sorts of different methods, street activism, campaigns, memes, bullying public figures to do our talking points like Elon Musk or various candidates.
So I do believe we can make this a winning thing, especially because people are hurting so bad right now.
Inflation is to the roof.
The quarterly growth was supposed to be 3%.
That was a cowardly optimism, I think, 1.4%.
If we simply fix the economy, people will flock this issue.
And two, a lot of the aggressive movements of the 1930s came from middle-class support.
If they really took off and they got middle-class support, we're fed up with the economy.
And I see a lot of parallels with that right now.
Well, one thing that we should have learned from Charlottesville is that right-wing activism, street activism, doesn't work because our elite and our establishment is still leftist and strongly leftist.
I think what we need to do is just turn off the water for all these programs.
And I guarantee if there was no money in coming over here, the Somalis wouldn't be here.
Well, I mean, that was the thing about Doge and how that did or didn't take off.
That's what we need to be looking at.
We need to make sure that we can get that money speaking.
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David, plug that contact information.
Thank you so much for splitting the time tonight between Iran and this poll, HomelandInstitute.org.
Where else could they go, David?
They can follow me on X at DavidZuddy, Z-S-U-T-T-Y.
I also frequently write for Countercurrents, counter-currents.com.
And just know I'll have a new poll about the whole Iran and non-interventionism, and done by about a week from now on the Homeland website.
We'll talk to you again soon.
I can tell you that.
When you bait the trap like that, what are they going to do, Keith?
Yeah, I tell you, they'll catch you up in Big Jim every time.
Thank you, David, so much for being on with us tonight and for wearing your dual caps so capably.