Feb. 8, 2026 - The Political Cesspool - James Edwards
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The Political Cesspool’s James Edwards and Ethan Ralph dissect the rise of right-wing online influencers like Sarah Stock (Pope-endorsed, union-backed) and Clavicle ("looks maxing" via steroids/jaw-chiseling), questioning their authenticity and ideological value. Stock lost traction after ties to fired Blaze employee Elijah Schaefer, while Clavicle’s extreme appearance obsession hints at deeper insecurities. E-girls like Isabella Moody or Lily Gaddis—often promoted by outlets like Rebel News—are dismissed as fleeting spectacles, compared to porn burnout cycles, though exceptions like Lana or Lauren Southern exist. Credible voices like Kevin McDonald and Mark Weber contrast sharply with these trends, suggesting online populism prioritizes optics over substance, leaving conservative causes hollowed out by performative, unqualified figures. [Automatically generated summary]
You're listening to the Liberty News Radio Network, and this is the political cesspool.
The Political Cesspool, going across the South and worldwide as the South's foremost populist conservative radio program.
And here to guide you through the murky waters of the Political Cesspool is your host, James Edwards.
Welcome, everybody, to another live broadcast of TPC.
The calendar has turned to the second month of 2026.
We're live tonight on February the 7th, and kicking things off this evening before we go to Lou Moore for hardcore political commentary, getting back to the news and current events of the day.
Ron Paul's former presidential campaign manager spent years in Washington as congressional chief of staff.
He has got the political scene clocked.
He's prescient, an astute observer.
Lou Moore in the second hour.
But first, Ethan Ralph, really a pioneer in so many ways with the kill stream.
He goes back many years.
He's a fellow Mymphian.
Ethan was our guest in Memphis back in November.
And I told Ethan just before the show started tonight that that was the most fun I've had in Memphis since, you know, that kind of fun anyway, you know, since maybe before my kids were born.
We had a blast.
He was on with us for three hours, a three-hour show with Keith and I.
And that was just a lot of fun.
And it's great to have you back tonight, Ethan, for something a little different, but hopefully similarly fun and informative.
How are you tonight, my friend?
I'm doing great.
Thank you for that lovely introduction.
It's good to be back.
And yeah, I heard there was something going on on the internet.
And so I'm usually either in the middle of that or I was doing on my show the other day, six degrees of separation from me is kind of an interesting game to play sometimes.
But yeah, there's been a little bit of a conflagration, I guess you might say.
Online.
Here's the thing.
I should know this because as many times as I've been on the Kill Stream and as many times as you've been on TPC and all of that, I should know the answer to this offhand.
But again, what year did you start the Kill Stream and start doing what you do now?
2015, but it used to just be a weekly show.
And I would kind of promote my blog.
And then it turned into, I had some things go on.
I restructured and it turned into a daily format.
So that's kind of the modern era.
And that was during that magical time where you had such a proliferation of content creators and you were really on the ground floor of that wave back in 2015, 2016, 2017.
And the Kill Stream is obviously very well known, notorious, if you will, but always interesting.
Yes.
And a good time.
And so this is what's been on my mind.
So when I decided to do this show, which this hour is going to be a departure from the standard fare of TPC anyway, but I, you know, of course, we've talked about this many times on the program.
You're well aware.
About three or four years ago now, I, along with Kevin McDonald and several others, all got the acts on the same day at the same time after building up, you know, pretty substantial followings.
And I went until the fall of last year, three or four year hiatus from Twitter.
And I never got reinstated.
I had to create a new account.
And, you know, Kevin created a new account.
But instead of having tens of thousands of followers, we got like 2,000.
Kevin McDonald, the legendary Kevin McDonald.
I looked at his Twitter today.
He's got 2,300 followers.
I mean, it's just a joke that it would be that few for a guy that accomplished.
But this is Twitter.
And I don't know what's going on, but on my feed every day, I see these people.
And I don't know who they are or why anybody would care what they have to say, but they have these massive followings.
I'll just give you one example.
Earlier in the week, this was the top trending news stories on Twitter.
And here's one.
Conservative influencer Sarah Stock deletes accounts after a fair leak.
Another one.
Clavicle gets frame mugged at ASU Frat Party.
Another.
Lily Gaddis, who I know you know.
I'll do Lily, yes.
And Pearl Davis clash with slurs in online.
And so I'm looking at this and I'm like, you know, who are these people?
Who are their audiences?
What's going on here?
And are they doing anything?
And that's why I wanted to have you back on tonight, Ethan.
So again, you are going to serve for the next hour as an ambassador to this AM Talk radio audience, a little bit different than the Twitter audience.
You're going to give us a guided tour through this world of the online E-right.
Who's legit?
Who's grifting?
You know, these numbers of self-appointed pundits have exploded in recent years, the last five, six years.
But are any of them actually sincere?
And are they accomplishing anything beyond making spectacles of themselves?
So that's what we're going to endeavor to find out with you, my friend, over the next hour.
So first question to you would be one that I texted you the other day.
I mean, could you just give us just a quick overview of the rise of the current manifestation of this online E-right and its top influencers by tier?
How would you categorize that?
By tier?
Or just throw some names out.
How did it come to be where all of these people have these followings?
You at least online.
Well, I mean, a lot of them are promoted by outlets like The Blaze or The Rebel.
Come to find out.
You know, that's usually how they get their start.
Very few just naturally come up through, I guess you would say, hard work or self-promotion.
Usually there's some dollars behind.
If you know Ben Shapiro's history, he did a lot of astro turfing on Facebook and elsewhere.
So usually these people, that's a little off topic for the current crop, but they usually have some type of institutional backing.
There's a lot of maneuvering behind the scenes on who to sponsor here.
And maybe they'll push this position that I want there.
There's a lot of stuff like that.
Fortunately or unfortunately, I've never got any sponsorship like that.
So, you know, I guess if they're listening, maybe call my non-existent agent.
But yeah, there's a lot of that.
And then, you know, kind of posturing, I would say, I'm not including everybody, by the way, but posturing around religion somewhat.
I think you see a lot of that.
And it's nothing wrong with being proud of your faith or, you know, having pride and, you know, coming back to the faith.
I do think there's some of that probably used purposes.
Exactly.
You're talking about using it to build a following, but it's not necessarily sincere.
And it could be used as just a ploy and to grift.
Right.
I don't follow any of these people.
This is why I'm having you on.
I don't know who they are, but they are all over my feed.
I don't follow them, but they're all over my feed.
And it's in top news stories, these people.
And I'm trying to get to the bottom of it because we go back 20 plus years here on TPC, but that was a different thing.
You know, back then, you couldn't just plug it.
I joke all the time about everybody with an internet connection now got their own show.
Back then, you had to be sanctioned by a station manager or a network or something to get in.
You couldn't just say, I want to do my show.
And then, you know, with the advent of, of course, we go back so far, Twitter and YouTube weren't even online, you know, when we had our first show here on TBC.
And then now it's, of course, a totally different media landscape.
And for many ways, the better.
There's no doubt about that.
But nevertheless, I'm looking at this, and it's just so different.
I mean, here on any given night, you're going to hear Kevin McDonald.
You're going to hear Jared Taylor.
You're going to hear, like, in the next hour, Lou Moore, David Duke.
You want international news?
We're going to give you Nick Griffin, you know, former member of the European Parliament.
You know, Philip DeWinter, a sitting member of Parliament in Belgium.
You know, this is the kind of show.
And I'm looking, and I'm looking, again, just to give an example, Kevin McDonald, 2,000 followers, looking at all of these people who have really accomplished nothing.
I don't see very much in terms of CV or background and our history, but they're just there.
And then they've got these massive six-digit follower counts.
And I'm just, again, this is what we want to get to.
It's a little baffling.
I kind of cover both sides of it, right?
So I cover the popcorn tawdry drama because I love tabloids.
I guess I always have since I was a kid.
Konzojournalism.
I mean, but you kind of pioneered it.
You came in with that crop in 2015.
You know, the content creators then are different than what you've got now.
I mean, there was a lot more authenticity, I think, with the 2015 crop than the people that I'm seeing here.
But again, well, yeah, I don't disagree with that.
Usually you would have to at least do something.
That's true, too.
Not saying everybody at the top has done nothing, but some of these people, yeah, you look and you're like thinking, what exactly is going on here?
Elijah Schaefer, I mean, I can tell you that story if you want.
I have a bit of a history with him.
He used to work with the Blaze, Glenn Beck, and then he got booted out of there because he allegedly groped someone there, which, you know, whatever.
I'm not endorsing groping to be clear, but he ended up building his own media shop, I guess you would call it, The Rift.
And he had a person working underneath him, and her name was Sarah Stock.
You may be able to tell where I'm going with this, listeners.
I'm not sure.
If you're on Twitter, you could not have avoided this this week, even if you were just casually strolling what he's talking about.
And this is actually one of the reasons I wanted to have Ethan on tonight to talk about this.
I had heard the name Elijah Schaefer, but if you put a gun to my head, I couldn't have told you where he got his start or why he was a name that people may know or may not know.
Most of my audience will not know any of the names we mentioned this hour, so you can probably be thankful for that.
But anyway.
A lot of these folks are MAGA ink types, if you want to use the term, right?
So like suborbital to, you know, the Charlie Kirk, Steve Bannon class.
They're, you know, a cut beneath a tier or two beneath that.
But they're, they're like sort of there, but they do, like Matt Walsh now, they touch on our issues.
But the Elijah Schaefer thing is a big story this week, and it has made some, I guess, some, I wouldn't say national news in a traditional sense, but there are stories about it that have been published by Milo got all that cranked up.
Milo did get it cranked up.
And no, I had absolutely nothing to do with it.
Anytime Milo's involved with something, he did help me start my career way back when, but no, I didn't know anything about it.
And he actually hates me now for some reason.
Whatever, Milo, the Milo cycle.
But yeah, he pretty much got him dead to rights.
There were recordings.
I've known Elijah Schaefer for a long time.
I actually, I guess you could say, ambushed him outside of Blaze Studios.
This is real, by the way, James.
This really happened.
Not physically ambushed him, but ambushed journalism to ask him about other potential diances he had had with men, actually.
That was the big thing that I was told.
I watched him speak.
I just got to say, I watched him speak for the first time.
I'd never watched a clip or anything he had done.
I maybe could have recognized the name as a name I had heard before, but I couldn't have told you where he placed or where he came from.
I watched a 30-second clip of him speaking today, and I sort of got really suspicious.
Yeah, I mean, and I think he's pretty much admitted that he went.
That's Milo's quote: that he said he went through a twink phase talking about Elijah.
I don't know, but I was told flat out that that happened by a person I trust.
So, whatever.
I guess he's making up for lost time, though, by having a dalliance with Miss Stock.
I have to remember we're on the radar.
All right, but again, and I've never heard her name before, so I'd never heard her name before until all the news, you know, this week.
And, you know, so they had an affair that's not exactly novel.
I mean, I don't even see what the big news is with that.
You know, why did she have 100,000 plus followers?
Well, she's a blonde and she's somewhat easy on the eyes.
We're going to talk about that in a second.
Yeah, keep going though.
That's pretty much it there.
She also worked for Rebel News, came up through there.
You know, there's more, but that's really where she came up through Rebel News.
And then she, I don't know if she was doing full-time work for the Rift or what, but basically the tawdry aspect is she kept having an affair with Elijah, I believe, for six months, right up until the day before she announced her engagement and apparently was making her husband.
Again, this is salacious stuff.
Sorry.
But was apparently making her husband wait, but was not making Elijah wait.
All right, but why is any of this news?
These aren't celebrities.
I mean, these are, you know, C and D list online influencers, if you want to even use that adjective.
These aren't movie stars.
You know, somebody told me once, basically you get all the, well, not all, but a lot of the negatives of being a celebrity and almost none of the positives if you're an internet celebrity, right?
You don't have a publicist.
You don't have a chef or go fix this right here, but you get all the negatives.
I mean, she did have her union blessed by the Pope.
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I think that one's coming back to bite her in the rear.
That picture's been going around a lot.
I mean, just have.
Yeah, but I read anybody can fly to the Vatican.
And if you're there, when he shows up, he'll bless you.
She dishonored the Holy Father.
I saw that on Twitter, and it's like, well, he didn't even know.
Like, I don't know.
It's still not cool to do that, I wouldn't say.
But yeah, that's kind of the long and short of it.
And it's been all over the place.
Elijah, I guess, is still going off.
Sarah deleted everything.
And I think she's going to retire from public life.
That might be a good idea.
I don't know.
Hey, you've never let a scandal slow you down, my friend.
I had one or two just this past week.
Yeah, I don't let it stop me, but maybe she's trying to keep her marriage.
I hate to speculate.
So again, I mean, I have to be cognizant of my audience.
And I'm only, I mean, I'm asking you these questions because I don't know.
And I'm genuinely curious as to why these people are being promoted by Twitter, which is the place to be if you are on our side and engaged on social media.
Why are these people being promoted?
Who are promoting them?
Who is their audience?
What did they do to deserve an audience?
And this has been sort of the catalyst, this story, this, you know, I will say alleged, but, you know, for all intents and purposes, this affair between this guy named Elijah Schaefer and this girl named Sarah Stock.
It looks pretty likely.
Yeah, but her name is totally unfamiliar to me until this week and his mostly so.
So I have to understand, you know, my audience, I know TPC listeners, this isn't our bag, and you probably don't know these people.
But I think the bigger question, the reason why I wanted to cover it this hour with Ethan is because, again, he is a, his orbit, you know, circles ours and theirs and other points.
Ethan sort of is, he knows a little bit about everything anyway.
But the bigger thing is, again, just, you know, is this synthetic?
Is it authentic?
And, you know, is it overall good for the cause that you have these influencers?
And I am not a Puritan when it comes to this kind of stuff.
I don't really care about affairs.
It's not, you know, there's nothing new about a man having a mistress or anything like that.
So that's not really the point of all this that interests me.
What interests me is, you know, how did these followings come about?
And are they doing any good work for the cause?
Do they even believe in the issues they espouse?
Some do, some don't.
I mean, I can't, you know, read everybody's mind, but I'll say that one reason I don't call myself an activist is because I don't want that label, right?
I'm an entertainer.
I talk trash online.
Sometimes it's a little more learned than others.
Sometimes it's popcorn, garbage like this.
Sometimes it's a really important issue to do with whites or, you know, the country or what have you or travel log.
I don't push the activist label for that reason because I don't want to be judged as an activist because I certainly wouldn't consider myself, you know, I always lived a moral life, but some of these other people don't have that problem.
And then when you push that and you get knocked down a peg like this, it really hurts.
Yeah, go ahead.
Well, I was just going to say, don't sell yourself short on that because yes, I mean, you make, you don't have any misgivings about saying you're an entertainer and that you do this show that is entertaining.
You get into beefs.
You do a lot of the things that we don't do on this show.
But you also, when you want to engage in purely political commentary, you have a very sharp mind.
I don't know if anybody's ever said that, but you say that about yourself.
No, you really do.
You are a sharp political commentator when you choose to do that and focus on that and the other.
And you can blend the two together pretty seamlessly as well.
And of course, when we were doing the thing in Memphis, again, a lot of fun.
We did a tour of Bill Street one night.
We went out with Keith the next day, did a tour of Memphis.
So you can do these eight, 12-hour streams and do all the things that all the people are doing now, but I don't have a lot of experience in.
And you excel at all of it.
And again, you are one of the originals.
And so that is, you get mad respect from me for all of that.
And anyway, that having been said, you can wear both hats.
Whereas these people, I think to your point, these people position themselves as sort of more issue-oriented political commentators, but they're also sort of doing this.
And I don't like – well, go ahead.
Go ahead.
Well, I was going to say, kind of holier than thou is a term, right?
Like, I don't know.
When you post a big announcement about your engagement and you get your wedding bless by the Pope and it turns out you were sleeping with Elijah Schaefer for six months right up until the announcement, they're going to be a lot of people out to take you down a peg.
I mean, I'm not saying it's right.
Her life is pretty much over online, but that's just how it goes.
I try not to do that because, you know, I just live my life.
There's some mistakes.
There's some bad things.
I don't lean on that aspect as much.
She has a cross on her neck on one of these photos.
I mean, nothing wrong with that, but people are going to attack directly to the hypocrisy.
And everybody's a hypocrite at a certain level.
I understand that.
But, you know, you mentioned the different things that I cover.
Well, it's funny.
People, you know, I cover more serious stuff and give serious takes.
You know, a lot of times stuff like this, quite frankly, since I do both, you know, people want to see this.
They want to see me yelling about some loose woman or whatever.
You know what I mean?
Like there's a crowd.
There's definite crowd for that.
Sometimes it overlaps with the crowd that Ethan has to serve many different audiences.
Ethan has to keep a lot of, he has to keep a lot of different customers satisfied.
So you get a more diverse show with the kills room than you do here.
But when Ethan is having political guests on, I mean, he has a lot to say, people.
Tonight, you're going to hear from Lou Moore and David Duke, David Duke in the third hour.
Ethan's had them on, and it's great.
It's as good as you'll ever get here.
All right.
But Ethan also does some of the things that you're talking about.
Oh, there's also some more learned topics.
Yeah, but some more Jersey shore type programming.
But well, and again, it's not just, I really don't.
I mean, yes, it was this scandal that Milo purposefully input into the consciousness of the online space that got me thinking about this.
And I just kept seeing these people pop up and then all the top news stories about all these e-influencers.
And I'm like, again, why do I care what you have to say?
What did you do?
I mean, why do you even have a microphone?
I mean, for this program, I mean, we go back, you know, that year with Buchanan was key.
I ran for office and then got offered a show by a station manager on an AM station in Memphis.
And so that's what gave us our start.
And then, you know, we're still here 22 years later.
But, I mean, again, where's any sort of credentials other than you knew somebody that, you know, put you there and you started getting the right algorithms?
I've seen, you know, when my youngest, when my oldest daughter, Ethan, she's 15 now, but when she was a kid, we would watch these toy review videos on YouTube.
And it was like adults playing with toys.
And it had like 300 million views.
And it's astonishing.
And you see that kind of stuff with these people, I think.
It's just very, you know, it's sort of like a mirage.
I mean, could they hold a conference?
Are they accomplishing anything?
Are they really influencing anything except having large follower counts?
And this goes for the guys, too.
We're going to talk in the second half of this hour about the e-girls.
We got to have a conversation about that.
But 10 years ago, I thought it was so cool in 2015, 16.
You know, I go back in this a quarter of a century.
And, you know, up until 2015, if I went to any meeting, any conference, spoke at any event, and it was all people older than me.
And that's fine because I love older people.
All my friends are, you know, I tell Keith, Keith's my youngest friend, besides you, Ethan.
And it was all older people until the, you know, about 10 or 12 years ago.
And then you start to see all these young people, and they're very well versed on our issues.
But, and I never looked into what they were doing above and beyond that.
But you see now, I think, and it is different than the group that came in 10 years ago.
This newer group, the last couple of years, five years maybe, they're all, you know, it's an inflated sense of importance, effectiveness, accomplishment, and intelligence.
I see it all over the place on Twitter now that I've been, now that I'm back.
And well, again, what's going on there?
And it's guys and girls alike.
I agree.
And first off, I like talking to people who are more intelligent than me.
If I'm corrected on something, that doesn't bother me.
Like, I want that.
I want to be corrected.
If I'm wrong, I've noticed maybe it's always been there, but people just don't.
like talking to people who are more intelligent than them or they actively, you know, shun away from that type of content.
That's how you get smarter.
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Spoiler alert for anybody listening.
That's how you personally get smarter is listening to other people talk that are smarter than you.
And I have seen, they call it getting one-shotted.
I've seen a lot of that over the past, especially six months where, you know, this person who I've never seen before is telling me how to do it right or telling me this or that.
Yeah, it's pretty crazy.
Hold on, everybody.
We'll be right back with Ethan Ralph, the kill streaks.
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It never fails.
The commercial breaks are always the highlight of the show.
I mean, not necessarily because of the commercials, but because of what you don't hear behind the scenes.
Ethan and I, you know, just holding shop here, and we're talking about the E-Right, the new right, so-called new right, the online right, their influence and effectiveness, or lack thereof, vis-a-vis their very high follower counts.
You got to give them that.
They've got an audience just like the people who, you know, I used to watch with my daughter.
300 million views playing with Play-Doh.
But, you know, is the cause being advanced?
That's what we're examining tonight.
And Ethan keeps a he's like an octopus.
I can't even say he keeps a foot in both cams.
He keeps, you know, you got to have more than two feet.
He's got, you know, eight tentacles that kind of keeps him keeps his hub informed, you know, from all different circles of this thing and able to break it down tonight.
You know, Ethan, we're talking.
So again, you know, got my start looking up to the legendary, the soon-to-be immortal Pap Buchanan.
And that's how I wanted to present myself.
You know, if I ever was able to do anything.
And thankfully, you know, some years later, we got the show and we've been on for 22 years now.
But I wanted to present myself like that with that sort of decorum, flying above the turbulence.
You know, we were talking about the story about Jack, excuse me, Pat and Hunter S. Thompson in the hotel room with Shelly, Pat's wife, and they were doing the wild turkey.
But, you know, you would never see Pat Buchanan going on Twitter and just doing tell-alls about what they know and what they saw and what they talked about, as you see these men doing.
It's very feminine behavior.
But did there anything before we get to the e-girls, which is a whole nother thing?
It's tangentially, well, even more really more than tangentially related to what we were talking about earlier.
But is there anything that you wanted to cover from the first half hour before we get into the e-girl phenomenon?
Well, clavicular, you did mention him in passing.
So I guess we could talk about him and Isabella Moody, who's also been on my show.
A lot of these people have been on my show.
Really?
What did you think of her?
Well, I got into a falling out with her clique later on, but what did I think?
I mean, she was hot.
Yeah, much high tippo than Sarah Stock, I think.
But yeah, I mean, she was good looking.
We'll get into that.
We'll get into that.
We'll get into it.
Well, I want to get into all of that, but you want to talk about clavicle real quick.
She was well spoken.
I think she did say a certain word that I don't usually say.
But anyway, yeah, clavicle, clavicular, excuse me.
I don't have a personal issue with him.
I just don't know that it's, you know, the whole look.
I don't know if you've looked into the looks maxing thing.
I know I'm going to sound like a total boomer trying to describe this, but basically, through imagine a well-informed, fully mature homeowner, employed 70-year-old listening to the program tonight.
How would you explain what you're about to say?
Okay, so looks maxing.
Well, I mean, it's just what it says actually in the title.
It's an extreme focus on making yourself as a male look the best you possibly can.
And that may be through steroids, that may be through, you know, whatever concoction of drugs you need.
Besides steroids, there's obviously quite a few more you can take.
He walks around with a hammer, breaking his face.
He walks around with a hammer breaking bones in his face.
I don't get that.
I mean, that's weird.
That has something to do.
He's chiseling his jaw.
I look, yeah, it's weird to me.
I'm not going to lie.
He seems to be, you know, people are talking about him, James.
I wouldn't have known who he was two or three months ago, and now I do.
Well, and I do too.
And it's the Jersey Shore phenomenon.
It's famous for being famous, but not necessarily for any sort of talent or skill or intelligence.
And, you know, good for him.
He's 20.
He's living, you know, the high life right now.
I don't know how this ages when he's 30 and his current 20-year-old fandom sort of matures and moves on in life.
Certainly 10 years from now, 20-year-olds aren't going to want to see what a 30-year-old is doing.
So I don't know how that goes, but good for him for whatever success he's having right now.
But the thing is, the reason he got into lip maxing was because he was apparently sort of not very good looking in any way.
He made some improvements, but you can improve the facade, but it doesn't necessarily improve who you are.
And I've seen, again, and this is another reason, along with the Eliza Schaefer thing, another thing that's come on my Twitter feed.
I don't know why I'm being fed these things by Twitter or what algorithms in play here, but this is a guy that's popped up, watched a couple of clips.
Very socially awkward, though, if you watch him.
And that I think stems back to who he was before he changed his appearance.
Well, I saw a clip of him today, and it's not to pick on him.
I just never really, I mean, I've looked into him.
He almost ran.
I guess he did run over a guy on New Year's Eve.
Anyway, I know of him, but there was this clip, and he said he used to stay up late at night so he could be away from his family.
By the way, I used to stay up late at night, but not for that reason because I was a bad kid.
But then he said he would leave 30 minutes earlier, wake up 30 minutes earlier and leave 30 minutes earlier than everybody else so he didn't have to talk to his family in the morning.
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And he might go, you know, weeks at a time without talking.
Now, to me, that sounds not good.
You know, something's going on there.
But yeah, he was describing his life.
I mean, I have no reason to think he was lying, but that sounds kind of the disclaimer.
I mean, you know, again, with this guy, nobody listening tonight, again, consider yourself lucky.
Nobody knows who we're talking about.
But we're just talking about the inflated importance of the e-online, so-called new right now.
In Clavicle's defense, he never really positions himself as a political commentator as these other people we are talking about do.
And that includes a lot of the ladies.
And this is another thing.
The e-girls.
Now, I say this.
We have an annual Valentine's Day show.
That's all ladies.
But these are like, you know, homeschooling moms of this listening audience or somebody like Sarah Dye with Above Time Coffee, formerly, you know, Schooner Creek Farms.
And, you know, people who have skin in the game.
They're not attention-seeking.
If you are an attention-seeking female, that is a huge red flag, number one.
But above and beyond that, if I want to hear what a woman thinks, and I don't think we've had a woman on the show yet this year.
We're going to have a lot of them next week.
But, you know, I want to hear somebody like Virginia Abernathy, my friend Virginia, who I met in 1999 on the beginning of campaign, the former professor of anthropology at Vanderbilt University.
I want to hear a woman like that, somebody with credentials, somebody with intelligence, somebody who understands issues and can say things that are insightful.
I want to talk to Virginia Abernathy if I want to talk to a woman.
I don't want to talk to these people on Twitter that I see.
And they are a dime a dozen now, and not one of them has fewer than tens of thousands of followers.
What is going on in the world of the e-girls?
Of the e-girls that you know, who would you say is legit?
There's something there above and beyond, you know, relative good looks and, you know, parenting, parenting talking points that are not unique.
There's nothing really new about what they're saying.
It's just that they are young and I married two e-girls.
I did divorce two e-girls too, so I guess that would be a couple strikes against me.
But still, so you know better than you're an expert on this question.
Yes, the e-girl question has befuddled me for years, James.
I would say, who do I like out of the e-girl crop?
I mean, just as a commentator, although she's very fetching as well.
She's married.
I don't want to say anything too out of pocket.
But Blonde from Blonde.
She used to do a show with Matt Christensen.
She hosts The Backlash now.
I think she's really cool.
I think she was somewhat associated with maybe Red Ice, or at least they knew her.
Yeah, I'm pretty sure she's been on Red Ice.
And now that you mention it, Lana is awesome.
I haven't talked to her in a while.
Now, Lana is.
Yeah, Lana's with, but she and Henrik, I don't count her as that, as the kind of class of e-girl I'm talking about.
Lana goes back with Henry, you know, almost as long as we do here on TPC.
Now, Red Ice came a little bit later.
They were doing some different stuff.
But I mean, she's got big time skin in the game.
She wasn't like some astro turf, you know, came on the scene the last few years.
Lana's certainly very different.
And there's a few.
I mean, Lauren Witzke, your friend of mine, she ran for office.
She won a, you know, a Republican primary, a challenged Republican primary and ran for Senate.
And then she was able to parlay that into, you know, she's made a lot of different stops over the years.
I mean, she's worked with Pillow Man now.
I mean, I didn't know that.
Yeah, she's working with Mike Lindell.
She's a really nice woman.
I'll say that she's really nice.
When you were at my house, you were texting.
So anyway, no, I like she's spoken at some of my stuff, and I've spoken at some of her stuff.
So, I mean, there are some that have some credentials and some background and some level of success that they have parlayed into something else, as I have done, as I did.
But then there are the others that just sort of seemingly cropped up out of nowhere, and they're a dime a dozen now.
And I just want to know why I should care.
First of all, I don't think women should have the right to vote.
I think most of the women who come on this program would agree that they, you know, would be better off.
We would all be better off without.
But why should I care what they are saying?
What are they saying that an accomplished man isn't saying?
I mean, because again, I mean, here's just one example.
I don't know if you know her or not, but Ella Maulding.
She's got 70,000 followers.
Kevin McDonald has 2,000.
She showed up at a meeting.
She actually showed.
Well, I'll give you an example.
She showed up at a meeting that I showed you a joke.
She showed up at Lauren Witzke was speaking at one of my conferences, and Ella showed up as her plus one.
But that was fine.
But anyway, we have a long history.
I may have made a joke similar to that in the past.
I don't have anything against her, though.
No, I mean, she's fine.
But I mean, I'm just saying this is an example of what is she saying that is unique?
What is she saying?
Why should I listen to that?
Why does Kevin McDonald have 2,000 followers and she has 70,000?
Honestly, if you're a female and you don't have some type of political background or political degree, and not to toot my own horn, but toot, toot, or some type of just invaluable experience in the political arena or the activist arena, I really have no reason to give to care what you would say other than you being hot.
So that's why they put the hot one.
So is this the audience?
Is this the audience?
Yeah.
I got to be fair.
I got to be careful.
It's that simple.
Yeah.
Go ahead.
Well, I got to be fair to brother Kevin McDonald, who is a very good friend of mine.
Now, when he was on Twitter the first time, when I was on Twitter the first time, when Nick Griffin was on Twitter the first time, you know, you had follower counts that could rival that, but now it's nothing.
So what is the audience here?
I mean, you know, so if you're not getting anything new or insightful and there's no background that sort of steadies your standing as a commentator, what is the audience for all of these girls?
Is it just thirsty men?
Thirsty men?
I was going to use a different word, but thirsty works better, perhaps.
I mean, and just reinforces your opinion.
I would say Sarah Stock, at least I didn't follow her day to day because, like you said, I didn't care.
But I think she had said a few more nationalist tending things or whatever.
Most of these people are just pumped out.
It's like I shouldn't compare it to the porn industry, but it's not that unsimilar, really.
Well, I think you're on to something here.
Is it a much more acceptable form of sophomore pornography to watch these girls get on, you know, and I'd say relatively good looking.
I mean, I love women.
I've always loved them.
I love them so much.
They say I hate them.
I wish I did.
I love the cheerleaders in middle school.
I love the girls in elementary school when I was that age.
I've never had a grudge against women as some people.
And we got a comment here from one of our ladies who is a mainstay on the Valentine's Day show.
And she'll be with us next week.
I hope I haven't invited her yet, but she knows it's a standing invitation.
You're going to get an invitation coming up probably right after this show.
I have to take it one show at a time.
But she says, how many e-girls are ugly?
That is a great question.
That is a great question.
How many e-girls that have any sort of following whatsoever are ugly?
How many people are tuning in for the content and commentary?
Almost none.
That's what I'm saying.
It's the same principle.
Sex sells, if they don't, and they burn them out like they do.
I think I hit on something with the porn analogy, though.
But how many, you know, how many of these girls have a long shelf life?
Not too many, right?
They burn them out in five, 10 years max, but really five to six years, and then they're burnt out.
And then, you know, maybe a scandal like this hits, maybe it doesn't, or maybe they just get forgotten or excuse me, forgotten.
And so, yeah, I think it's quite similar to the point.
And they tell them what to say for the most part.
I'm not going to say every one of them, you know.
Well, they're not saying anything new.
I've never seen anything from one of these girls that said, man, I've never looked at it from that angle.
That is so wow at the level of intelligence.
Well, I mean, again, and I say that.
We have a, you know, we have a deep bench and a deep roster here at TPC, and we can plug and play for different things.
And I love the Valentine's Day show with the ladies.
I mean, we have some great ladies that come on and they talk about things, you know, that they know about, you know, family raising and relationships and gardening, even.
And, you know, but they're also very well tuned into politics, but they don't have social media.
You know, I do not like attention-seeking women.
I think there's just something.
Yeah, my wife just walked in.
What do you mean?
Yeah, no, no, no, no.
She agrees.
She's a great.
Wait, let me ask her.
Well, let me ask her.
Let's put her on the spot.
What do you think about attention-seeking women on social media?
Now, you could have had a big follower count, Danny.
So what do you think about attention-seeking women?
I think it's weird and unnatural.
There you go.
Hey, folks, you heard it from the best.
There you go.
And it's just ripe for temptation.
I mean, it's for men, too.
Honestly, I can't say I have a perfect record in that regard either.
But, you know, we talked about, I don't know if we said this on there or not, but Moody there getting all googly-eyed towards Kavika.
That was a little bit of a bad thing.
I don't know.
Now, that's a weird thing, too, because I saw, again, I'm embarrassed.
Ladies and gentlemen of TPC's audience, you know our program, right?
I mean, you know the kind of guests we have.
I'm sorry to lower this.
We're going to get back to regular scheduled programming in the next two hours.
I'm sorry that I, what I'm really sorry for is that I ever got back on Twitter after I was banned.
I should have just stayed banned because I would have never known any of these people or what was going on.
But I have to admit, I'm embarrassed to admit, I saw that clip.
I saw that clip.
And then I was looking into it.
And then, you know, her husband's like her junior by four or five years.
And I saw a clip of him talking like this tough guy.
What do you, it's just the whole thing's weird.
But these are the people that are being promoted.
These are the people that have big follower counts.
And is any of it good for the cause?
And a lot of them, like Lauren Southern, who goes back to the alt-right days, you know, they'll rebrand as a leftist.
And you may see that from your former Confederate at Cozy TV, taking the Richard Hanania route where they all of a sudden, you know, he went from writing for countercurrents to being like this, you know, alt MSNBC, as Brad Griffin calls him.
Patty Domiter.
But you see this with the girls a lot.
They sort of rebrand and they do what.
What's easier for them?
Oh, they were tricked by a man and they were taken advantage of and they just listened to whatever they were told.
Yeah, it's easier for a female to rebrand.
I mean, when you get to a certain point, if you've blown through enough.
I was going to say bridges.
Let's just say bridges.
You've blown through enough bridges.
Yeah, I mean, sometimes that is the only play.
If you don't believe in anything, right?
If everything you said didn't mean anything other than you being famous or making money, then yeah, you'll keep that in your playbook because that's the only thing you can do at a certain point.
If you torch everybody, that's about all you can do.
Well, I'm just saying, it seems like there is a big market for relatively, I mean, relatively compared to the general population of America, which is fast food nation.
The relatively good-looking women parroting or even pretending in some cases to be trad and traditionalist and even white nationalists, skirting on that line, you know can make a mint doing that.
Now, my wife was saying something again.
She's here with me tonight.
What were you saying?
Do you want to say it on air?
Kim says you need to get Danny on.
You see that.
All right, now we've really shied her.
I mean, I didn't necessarily have to say it on air, but I do enjoy a woman who's given me advice on Christian motherhood and herbalist healing and holistic living gardening.
But not breaking down the communist manifesto.
Well, I mean, what she's talking about is the kind of programming we present every Valentine's Day with the ladies that we have on.
So what my wife is saying is that kind of program.
But that is not what Isabella Moody is doing or Riley or whatever her name is.
That's not what she's doing on her show.
I mean, she's engaging in all of the, you know, the gossip.
Right.
That's what I think is weird and unnatural.
But a woman who's going to help, you know, support my.
I lost my words, but you know what I'm trying to say.
Somebody's rumping your shit.
You know, natural parenting and homeschooling and home church.
Yeah, the kind of stuff we talk about when we do have ladies on, which isn't often because, you know, why would I do love the ladies, but I'm just saying, I mean, you know, we can have Kevin McDonnell on.
Why would I want to have a tart on when I could hear it from, you know, people like Mark Weber, who, as I always said, we have Mark on.
If anybody should be anchoring a current affairs news desk on a Sunday morning, you know, television program, it should be somebody like Weber.
I mean, these are the people we have on.
But anyway, Ethan, my wife's saying, well-educated women who speak to issues that women can relate to.
Not trying to be man and engagement.
You mean she wasn't an avid Sarah Stock follower?
I can't believe that.
She wouldn't even know who that is as I didn't just seven days ago.
All right, so Ethan, so bottom line, let me ask you this.
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We could have gone another hour on this one, Mark.
Easy, very easy.
Very easy.
First, give the contact information.
We don't want to run out of time on that.
Well, let's see.
Rumble.com slash thekillstream, I believe, or excuse me, rumble.com slash killstream live.
That'll take you directly to the kill stream.
I'm on Twitter at the Raw Retort.
And yeah, honestly, when you went into the e-girl section, it kind of just popped into my mind.
It is kind of, you know, a certain conveyor belt, and they just have a new one out every year, and then they flame out and whatever happened to so-and-so.
So, yeah, it could have gone deeper, but I always love coming on the political cesspool, sir.
So, thank you for having me.
Well, thank you for being back.
It was fun.
It always is, but it was a lot of fun in November.
Three hours you were there with us live.
That was after a couple of days in Memphis together, you know, on the streets of Memphis.
There was bloodshed on that particular generation.
You know, that's hidden knowledge.
I still haven't told that story, by the way.
That's like, wow, that was that was really fun.
That's not my story to tell, but I was there.
And then I remember your wife just demanding to patch up my knee, my leg.
And she's like, no, I'm going to pass this up.
I was like, okay.
Southern woman tells you that.
You just give it up.
100%.
I guess you are.
But yeah, man, thank you so much for having me and thank your audience.
I always get a lot of nice comments when I come on.
Maybe next time a little bit loftier, but I'm happy to bring it down in the gutter whenever needed as well.
Well, we got to do it.
We got to do it.
We got it.
Somebody's got to do it.
We got to do it.
Thank you for being able to navigate both camps so deftly as you do, Ethan.
And thanks for being a friend.
And you're always welcome here.
And I always enjoy.
Hey, you know, I still got to get out.
This goes back to November.
I was going to ask you some more.
I was going to ask you a few more things, but we don't have time.
I think we got it.
But I still got to tell the story on the kill stream about Ted Turner in a Confederate general's uniform and all these other things.
The stories we haven't told on the Killstream yet.
But we'll do that in time.
Seconds remaining.
All of these people, for all of their flaws, for whatever, however vapid and insincere they may be, is it good for the cause that they are at least parent, I keep saying parenting, parroting, you know, some semblance of our message.
I think it's a mixed bag, but Eileen, maybe a little, maybe a little yes, as long as it gets you deeper into the issues and to investigate a little bit more.
But it's loosened up language, things you're able to say now you weren't able to say even a couple years ago.
So I would say a slight yes.
Tentative.
We're looking for it.
If you are the man listening tonight that went from being an Isabella Moody follower to finding Kevin McDonald's culture of critique, email me.
If Moody was your entry point into finding Kevin McClure.
If Moody was your entry point, then please email.
Thank you, sir.
I appreciate it.
Love you, Ethan.
Talk to you again soon.
Lou Moore, we're going to get back to Moore Standard Fair the next hour.
Lou Moore gonna break down all the political news of the week coming up next.