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Peter Brimelow takes us behind the scenes to discuss his recent high-profile interview with Tucker Carlson and the topics they covered.

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You're listening to the Liberty News Radio Network, and this is the political cesspool.
The Political Cesspool, known across the South and worldwide as the South's foremost populist conservative radio program.
And here to guide you through the murky waters of the Political Cesspool is your host, James Edwards.
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It's always something.
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But first, but first and dare I say foremost, we are back this evening now, joined by our good friend Peter Brimilow, who's going to take us behind the scenes to discuss his very recent high-profile interview with Tucker Carlson and the topics that they covered.
I'm your host, James Edwards.
Thanks for being here tonight.
Let's go now to the man himself, the man of the hour in our ranks, Peter Brimilow.
Peter, great to have you back.
Thanks for having me on, James.
Well, you're very welcome.
And so, of course, you have been such a regular guest on this program for the past two decades plus.
I don't need to remind people, unless they're tuning in for the first time.
And since somebody always is, we will just go through the motions to let folks know you are the celebrated author of Alien Nation, Common Sense About America's Immigration Disaster.
If people go way back, they'll remember your days as a financial journalist, as an editor with Forbes and the Wall Street Journal.
You could have sipped wine and eaten cheese with the Ephete Conservative establishment until your dying day.
But ladies and gentlemen, Peter Brimilow answered to a higher calling.
And in doing so in December of 1999, he founded and for so many years served as the editor of VDARE.
And the fruits of a quarter century of that labor are still available for you at the archives at vDARE.com.
And I guess, you know, again, the Tucker interview.
Big news, certainly.
And we'll get to why and why our audience believes it to be so as well.
But there was a time, Peter, of course, when you were a fixture in the establishment media.
I mean, not many in our ranks can say that.
You know, Jared Taylor can say that.
I came on the scene just in the nick of time in the mid-2000s to get to experience that for a couple of years.
And then all of those opportunities really dried up, whether it be in person or remote, whether they were flying you to a studio, you know, one of their main studios.
You were just doing it from a remote thing that they contracted out.
But I got, and I told you this when I texted you, just a deluge of emails and text messages.
People got really excited about the fact that you were on Tucker.
A lot of people in my audience were emailing and saying, hey, James, Peter's on Tucker.
Have you seen, are you watching this?
He's on Tucker.
Did you see if it was after the fact?
Did you see this?
Let's just start there, if we can, Peter, and then we'll get into the real meat of it.
But because I think people would like to know.
Take people behind the scenes, logistically and otherwise, to the extent that you can about how all of this came to be.
How did the interview request initially come in?
Well, James, you know, we've known Tucker actually for quite a long time now.
I knew him when he was at Fox, when he very frankly said that he he couldn't possibly interview me because, you know, Fox has, I guess, had rules about who they couldn't have on, who they wouldn't have on.
About two years ago, he became aware of the fact that the web scene we were running, Lydia and I were running, VDARE.com, was basically being lawfared to death by the Attorney General of New York, Letitia James.
She could do that because the VDA Foundation was originally registered in New York back in 1999 when none of this was an issue.
And he had Lydia on about two years ago to discuss the problems we're facing.
And it did produce a lot of help in the shape of legal professionals and so on.
But it didn't stop us from being financially ruined by this law fair.
And that's why we had to suspend the site almost two years ago.
I had to resign and I set up a completely separate PeterBrimlo.com, which is actually a substack, a free substack, where people can follow me.
Anyway, we were talking to him.
He's a tremendous textor.
He has hundreds of people that he texts to.
He says this is a major way of getting information.
Anyway, Lydia was saying to him, you know, it's frustrating to us that there's all this focus on illegal immigration right now.
Understandably, because of the utterly treasonous activities of the Biden regime, it opened the border.
But legal immigration still continues at nearly a million a year, at a million a year, 90% of it non-white.
And there's no move at the moment to do anything about that.
You don't really hear anything about it.
So she said to him that, you know, she suggested I should go on and talk about that.
And he agreed immediately.
But oddly enough, when he got on, when we got on there, he wanted to talk about my chequered career in the conservative.
Well, he talked about that and everything.
And I thought that, you know, I enjoyed that.
I enjoyed.
I think it is important, I guess, for people who may need an introductory course on the life and career of Peter Brimlow that he would cover some of that.
But that was, I mean, we've got the chapter notes here, and it's been all over social media, all over X especially.
Huge audience.
We'll go through, I think, step by step some of the things that you talked about above and beyond that, because you certainly got into America.
You got into racial realities and demographics.
I mean, to an extent that only you would have found places like V-DARE and this radio program, you know, 10 years ago.
It's just astonishing.
And I don't want to get too far ahead of myself.
It's astonishing, though, how far the conversation, the Overton window of at least conversation has opened in just the last couple of years.
So, yes, I mean, and of course, I remember Lydia, your wife, being on for a very lengthy interview with Tucker a couple of years ago.
But, you know, this was, I guess, even in light of your association and friendship with him, that this would be the first big interview.
What was the timing of that like that it finally got here now?
And then I guess you traveled there.
You went there and you met with him in person.
So, you know, just again, that whole experience.
Well, they had said that he has a big operation, a lot of people involved.
He had said that they were going to have me and they were going to bring me down in February.
But I guess about 10 days ago, we just got a call saying, can you come on on Monday to shoot on Tuesday?
Because a space has opened up.
Tucker is producing an enormous amount of stuff at the moment.
And he's very highly scheduled.
And I guess a space opened up when they wouldn't know if he could go down.
And we could, so we did.
We flew down to Burger Gr to Fort Myers on the Monday, saw him at nine o'clock in the morning on Tuesday, and flew back to West Virginia on the late on Tuesday afternoon.
And I guess he he he finally they were going to run it on the Friday, but this blonde Dutch girl whose name I can't pronounce, Ava van der Breich, was so they ran her on Friday on the standard then and they ran me last Monday, this last Monday.
And I see it has 1.9 million views on Twitter now.
Remarkable.
Isn't that incredible?
I mean, people immediately, I was out here in Berkeley Springs on Monday night at a meeting, and people immediately said they'd see me on TikTok, which is just extraordinary.
It really is.
And again, there was really quite a bit of a buzz.
As I said, I got more emails about you in the last week than anything we've done very recently.
And so you were the talk of the town, even amongst my audience.
And I said, well, if it's gotten them this excited, I'm going to reach out.
And thankfully, you were able to come on the very first Saturday after this thing dropped.
And so, yes, it is an interesting thing for people who are excited about this.
And it is exciting, you know, how these things work.
And it's fun just to spend a minute here before we get into the meat of the matter, telling people how logistically the travel, they fly you down.
His studios in South Florida, and then you got to do that.
And we can remember going up to CNN and things like that.
And yeah, so it was pretty matter of fact.
You're there.
What was the experience like behind the scenes or in between takes and all that?
And then we're going to get into, I just asked this question to leave folks with this before we move into the topics discussed, because there's a lot of meat there.
And we have a ton of questions from the audience for you, Peter.
So just very quickly, what was it like being in the studio, that whole thing behind the scenes before and after the shoot?
What people didn't get to see?
The 9 million who've watched it on X so far?
Well, you know, this was very, very efficient.
I mean, everything, I don't think they cut it at all.
So it lasted, I guess, about 75 minutes.
And he just arrived just a little after we did, and we chatted for a while.
He said, okay, let's go.
We show up for 75 minutes.
They said, okay, that's a wrap.
And then we chat here for a few more minutes.
And then he had to go into a meeting.
And we got in the car and went back to Fort Myers near the airport, the airport.
It's a very, very, very efficient operation.
Very good.
Well, we like that, don't we?
I mean, we like trains that run on time and we like to get the job done.
And so that's how it happened.
Now, let's talk about what happened.
Let's talk about the different issues they discussed in the next segment.
And we're just getting started with Peter Brimelow.
That introduction now having been established, a lot of questions from the audience from all over the country.
We're going to get to as many as me, friends.
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Peter Brimlow, thank you so much for doing this.
I thought of you last week when I read this.
I don't know how much you follow Acts, but there were a couple exchanges that suggested to me that things were changing very, very fast.
Okay, so here's one.
This is a tweet from last week, less than a week ago, from a guy from basically an anonymous account, and I'm quoting.
If white men become a minority, we will be slaughtered.
Remember, if non-whites openly hate white men while white men hold a collective majority, then they will be a thousand times more hostile and cruel when they're a majority over whites.
White solidarity is the only way to survive.
Okay, that's on the internet.
Elon Musk retweets it and says, 100%.
And then Elon Musk writes this.
If current trends continue, whites will go from being a small minority of the world population today to virtually extinct.
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Exclamation point.
All of that, in my opinion, is obviously true.
And I think most people know it.
But I read that.
I thought, here's the world's richest man who owns this platform and a lot of other things saying this.
And Peter Brimlow, who I know, who's a thoroughly decent person, has had his life turned upside down and basically been destroyed in some ways, professionally anyway, for saying things that are way more restrained for that, than that.
So I have to ask you what it feels like to see that.
Ladies and gentlemen, that was the first one minute and 32 seconds.
I didn't cherry-pick that.
That is how the entire 75-minute conversation went.
What's the first minute and a half, and you have an hour and 16 minutes more of that.
Peter, again, it just, you have to marvel, my friend.
You go back so long and this.
Did you ever think that questions and answers like that would be readily available to millions upon millions of people?
You know, could you have thought that in the mid-90s when your book came out?
My book was triggered by a National Review cover story, incredibly, a National Review cover story that I wrote in 1992 called Time to Rethink Immigration.
And basically saying that, you know, the great surge of immigration that happened since the 65 Act should be reached, which had never really been criticized.
Had not been an issue, political issue at all.
Should be a political issue.
It should be reversed.
And we had, of course, Pat Buchanan running in that against George Bush.
And he did, you know, he was doing very well as an independent candidate.
And I really expect the issue to break through then.
And of course, it took a tremendous amount of lying and manipulation and intrigue on the part of the neoconservatives and the Chamber of Commerce and the open borders lobbies and so on to get the issue back into back into the bottle after the genies escaped in 92.
But of course, by 97, of course, Bill Buckley was persuaded to push National Review of Immigration Patriots.
And after that, the issue really went into the icebox.
I mean, it didn't really emerge really until, again, until, I mean, although I was publishing V-DARE, it didn't really get going again until George Bush, George W. Bush stupidly tried to push through an amnesty.
And that in the mid-2000s, and that's when the issue really got out of control.
They couldn't keep it bottled up anymore.
So, no, I'm astonished how long it's taken, Frankie, James.
You came on the scene, I think, during the Great Blight, the Bush blight, when the issue was nobody on the right could discuss the issue at all.
And, you know, the Wall Street Journal was absolutely dominant.
And what we call now Conservatives and Inc., which is a whole bunch of essentially corrupt organizations that got going after Reagan, after the Reagan White House years and dominated debate from within the barway.
All of them really donor-driven.
They were really able to suppress the debate for a very long time.
And that's what you remember.
That's what you remember in the mid-90s.
There's a real period when we thought it was going to break through.
Of course, of course.
And that was the thing that made this program such a novelty in the mid-2000s.
I mean, we first went on the air in October of 2004, and it was already beginning to get buttoned up big time.
I mean, it had been for the most part, but of course, still you and a couple of others were still getting CNN and other appearances.
But that was the thing that made the SPLC and the ADL fall in love with this program so much was that as it was being buttoned up so tightly, I mean, here was this upstart AM terrestrial talk radio program that was having people like you on.
And that's what, you know, we're still here 21 years later because of that, but I haven't made a name for ourselves in that time when it was so dark.
And now, of course, everything has just exploded to where Tucker Carlson, after having been removed from the most watched primetime cable TV political talk show news show, is now reaching an even bigger audience.
It's just astonishing.
And he is not pulling punches on these questions.
I mean, I played the first minute and a half of that interview, but after some of your background and career highlights were mentioned, one of the questions that was asked, is Israel an ethnostate?
Another topic, the effort to make America less white.
I mean, these are things that he is just publicly going all out in.
Why is the white population around the world being eliminated was a question.
Your experience with the Murdoch family, the lawsuit to silence you, of course, Trump and the white working class, what America's future looks like, what your predictions for the future are, and so much more.
But I mean, he was really diving into the absolute heart of everything we're here to discuss.
It makes you glad you lived this long in a way that that message is reaching so many people through alternative means.
Again, Peter, 20 years ago, you just couldn't have guessed that this would be the case.
No, what's one of the things that interests me about Tucker is that he has obviously thought about these issues for a long time and reached very radical conclusions.
And really, I think being off of Fox in a way has liberated him to get to get into areas which which Fox could never have.
Oh, this would have never been anything, Aaron Fox.
God's will be done, you know, in his perfect timing.
Tucker's reaching more, and now you are able to reach this audience because of Fox firing him.
I mean, that was just the way the cookie crumbled.
But please continue.
Well, exactly.
And he's also getting into areas which are absolutely, absolutely verboten on the American rights, such as the influence of the Zionist lobby, which he's obviously perfectly well aware of.
And why is it that American Jews are a favourite ethno-state in Israel?
And yet want to have a completely erasinated poll position nation in the U.S.
They deny the founding stock of the U.S. the right to exist, really, and certainly the right to control their own state, as they did until the 1960s.
And that's a tremendous question, which is simply never asked in conservative circles, in conservative establishment circles, except, of course, secretly.
There's a confidential conversation about it, but it never surfaces in public.
Well, Peter, let me ask you this.
And then as we transition into the second half of this hour-long interview with you, and thank you so much for coming on again with us tonight, all these years.
You know, your family, friends with my family, my wife and your wife, and you and I have known each other for so long.
We've been a guest in your home, and it's always so good to see you.
Always so good to talk with you.
And I don't ever take for granted that people are going to willingly dedicate an hour of their Saturday evenings, especially when they're family men.
And so I do appreciate that.
But before we get to the questions for you in the second half of this hour, I just want to ask you this, because I'm not going to re-ask you all the questions that Tucker asked you.
Folks, if you want to hear what they talked about and Peter's answers to these questions, you can't do better than going and watching it for yourself.
It's all over X.
I mean, you know, 10 million people now have seen it.
So just go do that.
But I would ask you this, Peter.
What part of the interview did you enjoy the most?
And did any questions or any topics that he presented to you surprise you?
Let me see.
By the way, James, I am going to post the transcripts of this interview linked up in the way that we typically will view their articles to supporting evidence and so on on my petergrimlaw.com website, which is actually a Substack site, which is free.
And I hope that's going to go up to tomorrow.
But I'm in the middle of working on it now.
In terms of what surprised me, I guess I was surprised to be talking about myself so much.
I thought we were going to be talking about legal policy towards legal and grace and the various bills that are up there, like the POWs Act and so on, which is a moratorium bill that's actually been introduced into Congress by Chip Roy.
So but in fact he seemed to he seemed to be generally interested in my as I say my checker career.
I I worked up for a long time and longer than people realize and and that seemed to fight he seemed to find that really interesting.
And various experiences with within the conservative movement.
The fact that Bill Buck fired Jonas Long, the editor of Nash Review, who had allowed the immigration patriot line my article to run and I'd run the magazine as an immigration patriot magazine for about five years and Bill Buck is suddenly fired with no warning at all.
And in light and insistence on it, not only did he lie about firing Johnny Tucker resigned to write a book, but he made Jonathan lie about being fired and put part of his severance agreement was that he had to pretend he was resigning to write a book.
And although this is extreme interest to me, I was surprised that it seemed to be so interested to Tucker Carlson.
But of course, I guess historians will have to ask, you know, how did the U.S. move in particular findings after this map?
Peter, hold on right there.
And I do want to plug, only because the music is beginning to play.
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And I'm glad that Tucker went into your career, though, because praiseworthy eulogies after the fact are all well and good.
But our heroes and our champions need to be recognized while they're still here with us, too.
And I enjoyed that part of the interview.
And of course, y'all know a lot of the same people, having worked in mainstream conservatism.
We'll be right back.
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And we are back as Peter Brimelow continues to take a well-deserved victory lap.
Lot of praise on social media and in my inbox as a result of his stellar performance in this interview with Tucker Carlson.
And it's reaching millions of people and the entire cause is better for it.
Peter, are you ready to get into the mailbag with me?
Sure.
All right.
Well, let's first let you respond to this.
This came in from a young lady in Missouri and she writes, Peter is a hero and an inspiration.
I read two books at 18 that greatly influenced me, Peter Brimlow's Alienation and Pat Buchanan's Death of the West.
You know, of course, as we know, Peter, every girl in 18 goes through that Brimlow phase.
But would you like to say anything in response to that?
Well, you know, that's the wonderful thing about books.
They have a life that you send them out into the world as an author and then you find years later that they had a great influence on people and it continues for a long time.
So I'm absolutely delighted to hear this, of course.
And I'm delighted with Paired with Pat, of course, is the great lost leader of American politics.
If he had been elected in 92, actually the first time I ever voted was to support, but obviously I'm an immigrant, was to vote in the Connecticut primary for him against George Bush.
I mean, it's a great honor to be paired with them.
Indeed, indeed.
No doubt about that.
So we're going to do rapid fire here.
If we don't move quickly, we'll never get well.
We're not going to get through all the questions anyway, but we'll get through as many as we can.
And so let's start with Kim here.
And she writes, Peter Brimelow, the OG, the original on the immigration debate, it's been 31 years since you wrote Alien Nation about the perils of third world immigration.
At that time, very few were talking about the perils of legal immigration, and those that did were marginalized, including yourself in the case of being ousted from National Review.
Today, everyone, from Tucker Carlson to sitting members of Congress like Chip Roy, are now discussing essentially what you have been saying for decades.
And here's the question from Kim.
Peter, do you finally feel vindicated after years in the trenches to see your and VDARE's stance on immigration now be mainstream?
Well, I'd feel more vindicated if we actually had legislation.
That's what will feel vindicated.
The problem we have right now is that Trump's done a lot of good through executive action.
Even in the legal area, they're making it more difficult to immigrate, which is a thoroughly good thing.
But it can all be undone by the next Democratic president, as we saw last time.
So we have to get it into statute.
But, you know, yes, of course, I'm quite surprised.
It drives me absolutely crazy that we're no longer able to keep V-DARE running and to comment on these issues, which I've basically spent a lot of my life on.
All right.
Well, speaking of legislation, and well, you know, and again, as I say to people, of course, Peter, you featured in this very widely spread 14-panel review of Trump's first year of his second term that we did for the American Free Press.
And that got spread.
Uns ran it as a featured article, Kevin McDonald, and elsewhere.
And, you know, and as I say to people, I mean, Trump is only the president for all the things that are wrong with this country.
There's only so much a president can do, no matter what your position on Trump may be, whether he's a 10 or a 0 or anywhere in between.
I mean, that fact remains true.
And a lot of the things can be overturned.
But another question is: do you believe that Jonah Goldberg is squirming at Trump's 75 country Paul's visa declaration?
Well, you know, one of the amazing things about I mean, I may not be satisfied with what's happened, and I wish he would go further and that he would actually pass legislation and so on.
But the people who ran National Review after they purged me must be absolutely in agony because they've been completely the same with the Wall Street Journal.
You couldn't see a more comprehensive and humiliating refutation of their entire worldview than the arrival of Donald Trump and the arrival of the immigration issue on the scene.
So it's broken a lot of careers.
There's a lot of people who I forget the names of all those people, the people who are advised to George Bush, who are now Democrats.
A whole raft of Republican operatives have been driven out of the party by Trug coming off the scene, and Goldberg is now running, running a little website supported by Jewish donors and all this kind of millionaires and all this kind of thing.
And I guess National Review is an eclipse.
I mean, Tucker's spoken with intense contempt, as you know.
So, all of that, of course, is very encouraging.
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Let's go to a question from Bob in Montana, who writes, I just finished re-watching, so he watched it more than once, Peter, your interview with Tucker Carlson this morning, and he thought that Tucker treated you very well throughout the segment.
And he has a couple of questions for you.
And one I will get to first is, what are your thoughts on remigration as a policy and the potential creation of an office of remigration by the State Department under Trump?
Oh, I think it's absolutely terrific.
It's a tremendous idea.
I had two articles actually.
When I suspended Vider in July of 2024, I had two articles already on the stocks where it to go about remigration, which at that point the term hadn't come into popular parlance.
But if you know I've got immigration history, you know that people leave as well as come in.
There were two cases of remigration, which or emigration, reversing demographic trends.
One of them was the, I was right, we had articles about.
One was the elimination of English speakers from Quebec over the last 60 years or so.
The Quebec government has basically persecuted English speakers and got them to leave by making the French the official language and so on.
And the other is the elimination of Protestants from Southern Ireland, not Northern Ireland, but Southern Ireland.
When Ireland became semi-independent in 1921, about 10% of the population were Protestants.
And now it was until this recent immigration disaster down to about 1 or 2%.
So people do leave.
I don't know if you've looked at the White Papers Institute, which is also a new organization which has come into existence and published a lot of excellent work.
And one of my writers from James Fulford writes for them now.
But they've done a great job.
They call it repatriation.
But they've done a lot of work on this subject.
And for example, they pointed out that one really interesting case is Kazakhstan, which was one of the Central Asian republics controlled by the Soviet Union.
And when the Soviet reunion broke up, Kazakhstan became independent.
Well, at that point, it was almost a majority Russian because there'd been so much Russian immigration to Kazakhstan.
But the Kazakhs have reversed that.
And they've gradually limited Russian population.
So now the Kazakhs are in charge of their own state, you know.
And so there are plenty of examples of this.
And it's, you know, it's really something that's worth thinking about.
Now, there are people on the right, for example, Nick Griffin in England and Mark Collette, who are very skeptical of re-migration.
They say they say it's just not going to be able to get the numbers To really change the demographic destiny of the country, but my position is: let's try it and see what happens.
It can't hurt.
Coupled with an immigration market, I mean, it would be a, you know, I think it could make a tremendous difference.
All right.
I'll try to slip one more in here under the wire, and we may not be able to do it.
But am I talking too much?
No, not at all.
Not at all.
I mean, there has not been a second that has been wasted.
Actually, as a matter of fact, I do believe we have more questions than we have minutes remaining, and that's fine.
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But we will do a rapid, rapid fire segment coming up next.
But I just would make mention of this right here.
I have it pulled up in my browser because I know the music's about to play.
And I find here now an article at cnn.com from 2010.
And the title, you may not remember this, Peter, because this wasn't a TV appearance that either of us did, and certainly not together, but it was a joint print interview for CNN.com in 2010.
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And they're featured as your humble servant and Peter Bribelow in this article.
You can find it for yourself.
Just Google Peter Bribolo, James Edwards, CNN, and you'll find it.
But, you know, gone are the days where you have to wait from that man into heaven to fall and you get one of those big-time interviews.
You just circumvented all of that by a factor of 10 or more, millions more, with your interview with Tucker Cross.
It's just an amazing thing, amazing thing that's happening.
We'll be right back with Peter Brimlow.
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All right, Peter, my friend, we have got to make haste.
And so we're going to limit, if you can, and if you are agreeable to each question, one minute, 60 second answer at MAC.
We're going to work in as many as we can.
And here we go.
So another question.
What are your thoughts on Tucker's genuineness?
And that's a good question because I hear this a lot.
I've heard this a lot for years.
You know, we can all remember the bow tie wearing Tucker Carlson of the CNN about 20 years ago, 20 years plus ago.
We've seen the clips of Tucker Carlson admonishing and mocking Pat Buchanan.
I do believe people can change.
I personally believe this is a sincere transformation.
I believe what he's saying now is coming from the heart.
People do bring up the fact that his dad was in the CIA, things like that.
Your thoughts on Tucker's genuineness?
I think Tucker's, well, I think he's very genuine.
And I noticed, and I think that he took a line when he was with the Weekly Standard and so on in his early days, in his early parts of his career.
He was simply cautious about what he said.
And now he does say he's completely shed his mind on Iraq, the Iraq invasion.
And I think that may be a genuine change of mind.
I think that's a lot of people did on the right on that question.
The other thing about him is that he gets into areas which are not doing him any good, and which he's talking about because he's genuinely interested in them.
I don't mean his obviously very skeptical attitude to Zionist influence in the U.S., which is very dangerous and he's very brave to bring up.
But he gets into really odd stuff like whether or not there are extras reterrestrials and was he attacked by a demon and stuff like that.
And he wouldn't say that.
He's not saying that out of because it's going to help him in any way.
He says it because he happens to genuinely believe it.
So I think he's genuine.
I think to a certain extent he's finding his way.
He's trying to find a way to talk about some of his issues while still remaining at least tangenti attached to the mainstream.
Well, I mean, you can understand.
You can relate.
And I think y'all got into that a little bit.
Y'all knew a lot of the same people through your career trajectory.
And he could have stayed on Fox if he wanted to.
I mean, he was saying a lot of things on Fox that they didn't want him to.
And a lot of the things that we agreed with.
I judge him by what he's doing now, not what he did 20, 25 years ago.
So again, as quickly as we can, we're really running out of time now.
I've got a ton of questions.
Do you believe that Tucker will continue his evolution towards our side of the political spectrum?
Yes, I think he will.
I even wonder if he, at the back of his mind, is thinking about running for office at some point.
He's 56, so he has some time.
He could get it.
I mean, I tell you, he could probably be the governor of Florida.
You got Brian Donalds and Fishback.
I mean, Tucker would – I don't know.
I mean, that's just me talking.
But anyway, that's a digression.
All right, so, okay, this is a...
No, I think President...
I think he might think it's possible to do that.
President.
Wow.
He's never said that.
I never discussed it with him, but it's the kind of national presence he has and the national issues he's getting into and the way in which he's opening these issues up for the American right.
I think it's not impossible.
We have a joint question here, and then we'll touch on, because we're going to get into the ICE situation in Minnesota in the next segment.
We were covering it last week as well with retired police officer Jim Lancia.
But a question from a listener in Mississippi.
What do you think is the best ⁇ this is a two-part question.
What do you think is the best form of activism to accomplish our goals and to preserve and or restore our demographic majority?
And then a second question that came in from another listener, which is related to this, and that is, you touched on this at the end of your interview with Tucker.
What are your prospects for the future of this country and our people?
If we could tie those together, the best form of activism for our people to be engaging in at this time and your prognosis or forecast for the future.
Well, I can't tie those together, James.
I mean, I'm a writer, and I believe the best form of activism is people should read things I write and people and listen to show and so on.
Fundamentally, people have got to be armed with ideas.
It's the basis of organization.
The basis of organization is developing an ideology that everybody can agree on.
In terms of the future of the country, what I said, Tucker, as you know, was miracles happen quite often in politics.
Nobody expects the Soviet Union to collapse, but it's going to take a miracle to get out of this situation.
Apart from the demographic death dive that the U.S. and all of the West is on, of course, we have this open insurrection now.
The Democrats are openly the insurrectionary party, and the parts of the country they control are just in open defiance of the federal government trying to enforce immigration law.
So, you know, we need a miracle and we need the insurrection act.
That was actually another question that we have for you tonight.
So, moving beyond, and by the way, folks, again, PeterBrimlow.com, go there.
He's going to have a transcript up very soon, maybe as soon as tomorrow.
You don't have to search very long to find his interview with Tucker Carlson.
Of course, on video, it's all over the place.
It would be hard to believe anybody tuned in that hasn't seen it already, or at least is not aware of it, but you can find it on next very easy.
But moving in now to what's going on right now, tonight, as we are live here on Saturday evening at 6:54 Central Time, 7.54 Berkeley Springs time, you see what's going on in Minnesota again tonight.
You see this happening nationwide if Tim Waldz and Jacob Frey, if that political strand is able to succeed.
Does Trump have the wherewithal to implement the Insurrection Act?
Because if ever, I mean, it's been implemented, what, 37 times by a dozen plus presidents, if ever it was time.
Now's the time, right?
I mean, do you see that coming in Minneapolis after what happened this morning?
I don't see any way out of it unless Trump wants to accept complete defeat.
And I wish he wasn't at war with half the world as well at the same time, because this is going to take a tremendous amount of energy.
But, you know, look what they did for South, James.
I don't have to tell you, they imposed the insurrection on the South to force segregation on it.
And southerns were never as violent as these people are in Minnesota or in Los Angeles.
So I just see no other way around it.
I think that the insurrection has to be imposed.
I think Waltz and Fry have to be arrested.
And quite honestly, a whole boatload of judges have got to be impeached and removed because the Biden regime did immense damage to the judicial system with these people they put in there who are completely unqualified.
The only qualifications, well, they're either black or brown or female.
And the quality of judgment that's coming out of the judiciary now is utterly terrible.
We basically have a judicial insurrection where the judges are open sabotaging the federal government.
I mean, you see this right now happening in real time if you're listening to us live.
I mean, some people may listen tomorrow or a week from now or whenever.
But if you're listening to us live right now, I mean, you have a militia of Antifa that has formed and they are advancing on law enforcement officers in Minneapolis.
I mean, this is, I mean, we saw this before.
We saw it five years ago.
I say it's surreal.
It's certainly not unprecedented.
But, I mean, this is happening in real time right now, Peter.
As we are speaking, this is happening in Minneapolis.
And so, you know, we're a once-a-week show here.
So we're not a daily.
And if you listen on Wednesday or Thursday of next week, it's going to be old news.
But, I mean, as it is happening right now, it's just astonishing.
This has to be put down.
I mean, even I'm old enough to know that you could, you know, rioters used to be, you could shoot to kill rioters.
I don't understand what's happening.
And if he makes the mistake again of not putting this down, you know, that's just a terrible thing.
Right.
I mean, of course, that's what he should have done in 2020.
But at that point, you know, he wasn't even in control of his own administration.
I think he's much more in control now.
Well, I mean, you have Bondi, Pam Bondi said, we sent Governor Waltz a very strong letter today.
The host on Fox News, are there any consequences in the letter?
Bondi says, we'll see.
It's a fluid situation.
I mean, I'm watching her say this right now.
And there's the law enforcement, well, I mean, the law enforcement of Minneapolis and the state of Minnesota are on the side of the rioters.
The ICE people, they're outnumbered.
I don't even know what now, 100 to 1?
This is happening right now.
This situation is arising because the state of Minnesota, like a lot of Democratic states, will not cooperate with ICE and hand over criminals, illegal alien criminals on whom ISIS put a hold, and they won't honor them.
That's the only reason for them to go into the streets to round these people up.
That's why you don't see these scenes in Red States.
So it's entirely the fault of the Democrat governments in these states.
And they have to be crushed.
Yeah, absolutely.
They have to be crushed.
That is the takeaway.
I am watching right now an Antifa activist on Instagram saying he's coming and he's armed and he's got a bulletproof vest and he's going out there and he's encouraging everyone to go out there.
And that is what the governor of Minnesota and the mayor of Minneapolis are also telling people to do to impede the work of federal law enforcement to get in their faces.
Well, that's what the guy did today, and he won't do it tomorrow.
And it's a terrible situation.
I mean, well, we'll get into the pros and cons and the good, the bad.
But anyway, that's all the time we have for this hour.
We'll continue that conversation in the next hour.
Peter, thank you for coming on tonight.
God bless you.
God bless Lydia.
God bless your kids.
And God bless Tucker Carlson for having you on.
Millions of people.
God bless you, James.
Thanks for staying with me all this time.
Well, it's an honor, and I wish we could do more, and we will continue to do what we can.
And what we can do right now is tell everybody to go to PeterBrimlow.com and subscribe.
Peter, can't talk to you again soon enough.
Thanks for coming on with us just days after that Tucker interview dropped and you're right in the middle of all this.
We appreciate it.
We'll talk to you again soon.
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