Nov. 2, 2025 - The Political Cesspool - James Edwards
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You're listening to the Liberty News Radio Network, and this is the Political Cesspool.
The Political Cesspool, known across the South and worldwide as the South's foremost populist conservative radio program.
And here to guide you through the murky waters of the Political Cesspool is your host, James Edwards.
It always delights me, truly it does, when a guest who is regularly featured on the program is tuned in and is commenting on the show they are actually listening to live tonight.
We had that honor tonight bestowed upon us by Christine Lynn, who emailed in just a few minutes ago.
And she'll be back with us before Christmas time, I can assure you of that.
But Christine writes, great show tonight, first hour.
Wow, Mary Fagan King, what an excellent guest.
And now the second hour with Eddie.
Can't wait for the third hour.
Well, listen, I mean, did we save the best for last?
I can't quite say, but I will guarantee you that the third hour will be no dud with Jerry Taylor, the editor of American Renaissance.
I mean, his bio simply reads at Amrin.com that he is the editor of American Renaissance and the author of Paved with Good Intention, White Identity, and If We Do Nothing.
But as everyone knows, he is so much more than that.
And we welcome him back to the show this first night of November 2025.
Jared, the years keep piling up on us.
I've been welcoming you to this show for a long, long time now.
Yes, you have.
And it is always a pleasure and an honor to be your guest, James.
Well, it's always mine.
That much I can tell you.
That much is for sure.
But tonight, well, anytime we have you on, it's exciting because we're always talking about something.
Usually when you and I get together, there's something upbeat.
There's something good happening.
We're talking about something positive because you and I are both glasses half full type of guys.
But as you posted it to Amrin.com on October the 30th, just two days ago, if you're listening live, you recently enjoyed a truly inspiring weekend.
And I watched that video and I texted you, I don't know, I guess yesterday, just yesterday, and I said, I would love if you could take time out of your Saturday evening tonight to talk to us about it.
What was so inspiring about that weekend you shared a few days ago?
I will tell you, I was invited to the fall gathering of Return to the Land.
Return to the Land is a limited membership organization that buys properties.
And then the people who are members of the organization can buy parts of the property.
And they already have one settlement in Arkansas.
And as I recall, it's about 180 acres they took possession of.
And they are carving a community for white people out of basically virgin forest.
And it was inspiring to me for so many reasons.
One is the fact that although white people in the United States are wide awake and realize the kind of dangers we face, I've been a talker for 35 years.
You've been a talker, but these people are doers.
And they are, as I say, building a community for themselves where they can rear children.
It's very, very positive towards marriage, family making, rearing children.
There are about 30 people living there now, and more and more are applying, and they are putting in roads.
They are putting in septic systems, sinking wells and building houses, and they have a lovely community center now.
And I was invited to take part of what they called a fall gathering.
They have a spring gathering and a fall gathering.
And I'd never been to one of the gatherings before.
They have been operating for two years now.
And in addition to people like me who gave talks, they had demonstrations of how to raise goats, use goat's milk to make cheese.
They had classes in embroidery for the ladies who want to do that, and also natural childbirth.
And for the men, they had martial arts classes and an arm wrestling contest and various tests of strength.
They were going to do Highland Games kind of things, but it was raining just when they were going to do that, so that had to be canceled.
But it was a wonderful get-together, not just to the people who live there, but people who support them and a few invited guests of whom I was one.
You can be a member of Return to the Land for a small fee, and you go through a certain vetting.
And then once you've done that, you can take part in discussion groups, and you get an invitation to their fall and spring gatherings.
And what was so inspiring about it was that here we have white people coming together, all full of enthusiasm for this idea of building a place where white children can grow up and where they are told it's not okay to be white.
It's wonderful to be white.
And in a community that is very positive towards child rearing and where everybody is part of a community.
The children just run around happy as can be, welcome anywhere.
Everybody knows them.
The people live there.
And everybody's sort of an uncle.
It is just a lovely, wonderful community.
And then there was another aspect of this.
Of the 250 people who were there, 100 of them were young men who are members of Patriot Front.
And this is a group that is probably well known to most of your listeners.
They are generally involved in activist activities.
Have you interviewed Chris Ruf, sorry, Thomas Rousseau on your program?
You know, it's an interesting thing, Jared.
As you know, we have met with Thomas a couple of times at events going back the last couple of years, but it was just this summer that both Thomas Rousseau and Eric Orwald, about a month apart, made their debut appearances on this program back in going into August.
So yes, indeed.
Very good.
We do know that very well.
Yes, Rousseau was there with 100 of his guys, and they showed up just for a weekend of pure volunteer work because there are still fence posts that need to be driven.
There are embankments that need to be shored up with stone so they won't erode.
There's still brush that needs to be cleared.
As I say, two years ago, this was just uninhabited, untouched forest, and they're turning it into a wonderful community for white people.
So what thrilled me, really, was just the idea of all of these white people getting together to work together to build a better future for this community.
It's so heartwarming to see our people finally getting out of the talking stage and getting into the doing stage.
Now, there are folks who will criticize this effort from various angles.
Some say, oh, okay, you got this tricky membership thing that theoretically allows you to restrict ownership and people who are living there to white people who are entirely on our wavelength, but the state could crush you at any time.
Or there are people who say, oh, that's doing it the hard way, carving something out of just virgin forest.
I don't give a hoot about that kind of complaint.
To me, what is so significant is our people getting together, linking shoulders, and a group like Patriot Front coming out and donating 100 men for free working on all of these important projects.
It was just an inspiring and heartwarming thing.
And Eric Orwell, who is the public spokesman, he's the public face of Return to the Land.
He was on your program, and he will be one of the guests at the American Renaissance Conference.
And I'm very glad that you've had him on the program, and you've had Rousseau on the program.
These are guys who are out there doing things.
And it just fills my heart with joy to see members of our race who know what's at stake going out and in all their own different ways doing things to give us a better future.
It was really a great weekend.
What a testimony.
Ladies and gentlemen, you heard it here.
I was so excited to see Jared's video at Amran.com about his weekend there that, well, as soon as I watched it, I texted Jared.
I said, Jared, I know this is sort of short notice.
This was just a day or two ago.
I said, but can you come on tonight to talk to us about it, to share your experience with the audience?
And that is, of course, what we're here to do now.
But yes, indeed, Eric Orwal had actually driven to Memphis.
He drove to Memphis back on, while Jared was speaking, I was auditing our broadcast archives there.
And it was on August the 16th that Eric drove to Memphis, and we did a full three hours with him in studio.
Full three hours, one guest, three hours on that singular topic about, well, and Jared, you actually appeared on that program as well.
As I see in my notes, I had actually forgotten about that, but there you are.
And you were on that show as well to sort of introduce him to the audience.
And then for the remainder of the program, we went into this topic of what he is talking about.
Thomas Rousseau can't say enough good about him.
I met him for the first time a couple of years ago at a conference.
And then Patriot Front had me down.
I know you've been down to speak with them as well, Jared, a time or two.
And I was down earlier this year with Patriot Front in Texas and reacquainted myself with Thomas Rousseau.
And then he attended our conference in May.
And anyway, we'll continue with this.
But the fact of the matter is that there are so many people doing so many good things and new things and exploratory things, things that haven't been done before.
Exactly.
We're ill-equipped to cover it all in the time that we have.
But we will cover it for one more segment with Jared Taylor, and then we'll tell you about the forthcoming American Renaissance Conference just a couple of weeks away.
You can still be there.
Stay tuned.
We'll tell you all.
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Well, I guess the primary purpose of inviting Jared back to the program tonight was to give him an opportunity to offer his testimony on what he experienced there just a few days ago at the return to the land settlement in Arkansas.
And you know, Jared, it's not too far from Memphis where I live, that that settlement exists.
And I have driven through there many times with my wife to go to the Spring River and canoe down that river.
It is beautiful country.
I love the rural South as you do.
I mean, that's God's country.
That's my country.
But Raven, that area in Arkansas where this settlement exists, is very rural.
There is the big Raven there next to the Dollar General and not much else.
What was your take from just the entire scene above and beyond what we've talked about racially and communitarianly, if that's a word?
Well, it's certainly what people would call in the middle of nowhere.
You have to drive down Dirt Road at probably no more than about 25 miles an hour for the last couple of hours to get there.
But once you are there, you are in a place of bustling hard work, but at the same time, real tranquility.
For people who like being in the country, you are in the country.
But I think you put your finger on it just that moment before we went into the break, talking about all the different things people are doing.
I remember when you went into radio, I thought, wow, great.
We've got our voice on radio when people started doing live streaming.
All these different things.
And now people are going back to the land in this really creative way.
But to me, entirely aside from where it is and people who like country, it is country.
It's peaceful.
The sunrise is beautiful.
The sunset is beautiful.
The weather changes are glorious.
It is the fact of this sense of community, commitment, earnestness, and I love seeing all the children running around.
Children just running around free and happy.
And they play with the farm animals and they play in the woods and they play with the chickens.
They play with each other.
And all the adults love them.
It would be a great place to grow up.
I can't imagine a nice place, and you probably make the most wonderful friends of your life growing up in a place like that.
It's the way America used to be.
I know people become exactly right.
Exactly right.
I know people become slavishly chained to modern conveniences and all of this, but no such conveniences existed for those pioneers of the age of exploration and the Western experiment here on this continent.
We didn't have that.
If you want to go back to that day, you want to go back to the way it all began, you can live that now, even in 2025, you can live that.
And there is something to that.
It may not be for everyone, but for anyone who it may be for, there is an opportunity for you here.
And it comes with Jared Taylor's endorsement.
And let me tell you, that means something.
Well, it's not as though they forego electricity or the internet.
They've got Wi-Fi there.
Yes.
And so they've sunk wells, they've got running water, and there's even you can take hot and cold showers for those places that have not yet put in septic.
There are a few port-a-potties, but all of this stuff is being built.
As I say, there was nothing there two years ago.
And one of the guys bought an excavator.
And wow, has that been a great thing?
They've got a couple little bulldozers.
They work on this stuff day and night, laying foundations, putting up buildings.
It is really an inspiring thing.
And in the meantime, Eric Orwald.
Go ahead.
No, please.
Yes, go ahead.
No, no, no.
No, Orwald, the spokesman, he has been interviewed by all sorts of hostile media.
I think he cuts an excellent figure defending what they're doing.
I can't say enough.
I can't tell you how inspired I was by that weekend I spent with him.
Indeed, he has been, that was my point, is that he has been such a great representative for this movement, for this particular effort throughout all of media, you know, here with us and with you, and then, of course, on the other end of the spectrum with the hostiles.
And when I met him and he spent half a day with us to do the live broadcast of TBC back in August when he was here for the full three-hour show, he was almost disarmingly charming and almost soft-spoken considering the level at which he is operating.
And it was just a great show, an unforgettable show.
And then just the month before we had had Thomas Rousseau on.
These are, again, the people that are doing things.
There's just so much going on.
I mean, Jared, you know, going back, you've been with Amrin for decades, you know, many years longer than I've been here, which is now 21 years in counting.
And you could go back to where you could count the number of gatherings that our side would have, you know, certainly on one hand, and that's being generous.
And now there are so many overlapping things, and I mean high-level overlapping things.
We can't even go to them all.
And sometimes they conflict with other high-level things, which we ran into earlier this year with our conference and you having to go to Europe and that scheduling conflict.
But there's so much happening now.
And you mentioned Thomas Rousseau.
I mean, Rousseau and I and your lieutenant, Kevin Deanna, I mean, we're working on a little project, and there's just a lot happening behind the scenes.
And at any moment, I would say at any moment this thing could pop, this thing could break through, but we're already breaking through.
We already have broken through.
It's just a matter of how much further our collective, because that's what this is.
It's not me.
It's not Jared.
It's not Eric Orwal.
It's not Thomas Rousseau or Kevin Deanna.
It's all of us.
This is a collective, and that's how you have to look at it, because that is the healthy way to look at it.
And Jared, there is so much happening right now that I'm excited about and so much potential for future and further success.
But let us first take a moment with just a few minutes remaining tonight and your appearance this evening.
And again, folks, I don't even need to give Jared any more introduction than just to tell you that Jared is on the air because no one has been interviewed more frequently in 21 years on this program than he.
But you've got a conference coming up, and there's still time for people to be there, and that is coming up the, well, two weeks from now, November 14th to the 16th.
Still a chance for people to go.
That's right.
That's right.
We're going to have some really unusual people.
One that I'm quite excited about is a lady comedian, Leonardo Jordi.
This is a lady who started off as a fire-breathing feminist over the years.
She came to her senses, and she uses comedy to poke fun at just the insanity of wokeness and anti-whitism.
So here you have yet another something that, oh, five years ago, ten years ago, maybe even a year ago, I would never have even thought of.
A comedian, a successful stand-up comedian who's making a good living on our side, spreading our message in yet a different way.
This is just glorious.
And then we have some European guests.
And at this point, we don't want to reveal their names because sometimes it's a little bit tricky for people to get into the country if they are advertised.
We want them to be able to attend.
So we're not going to say their name.
We want them to be able to come.
That's right.
You understand that problem.
You have had guests that you wanted to come to your conferences.
Yes, yes.
So we are being prudent.
These are wonderful people who will be with us, and we're very much looking forward to that.
And then Greg Johnson, he will be speaking at the American Renaissance Conference.
I think he is another fellow who's doing great work.
He is sort of cut in perhaps my mold as being a writer and a talker and an editor, website manager, that kind of thing.
But now we're old school compared to all the different ways that people are pushing our movement forward.
And I've been lucky this year.
I've been able to attend meetings of patriots and comrades in France and in Slovenia, in Italy and Finland, and most recently in Great Britain.
And it's so encouraging to see all of these bright, dedicated people, many of whom have clearly devoted their lives, as you and I have, to our cause and our people.
I think that a movement with such fine men and women in it is bound to succeed.
And you and I, we see the bright side of things, but this time the bright side is so bright, I feel almost blinded by it, James.
We're getting tanned.
We're getting tanned by this sun.
Jared, I'll tell you, what we are experiencing now, I never had any doubt.
This is the truth.
I never had any doubt that this day would come, but I just didn't think it would come this soon.
I will admit that.
I didn't think it would come this far, this soon, to where we are now.
And of course, you left off a couple of people from that list of speakers at Amran, including the aforementioned Eric Orwald.
He will be there, as well as the dean of our movement, Sam Dixon, and the aforementioned Kevin Deanna as well.
Always a great speaker.
I mean, there's so many meetings now, I forget them.
I almost forgot that, Jared.
It was just earlier this month that you and I were together at another meeting.
But there's a lot happening right now, and it is popping.
And there is a, you know, it's almost like, I mean, there's been this news recently about this hurricane that hit Jamaica.
It's sort of like that, though, where the conditions are favorable and they begin to reinforce one another and you just get this synergy.
And I believe we are in the eye of that right now.
And it just, well, not even maybe even that far.
I think there's so much more to go.
But I think everything is moving in our direction.
I agree 100%.
And years ago, I used to say, look, things are going to fall together in ways we can't even predict.
People are going to appear whose names we don't even know.
And this is exactly what's happening.
I think there is a kind of momentum built up with the idea of racial consciousness of preserving a future for our people, our heritage, our culture.
I think it's unstoppable now.
Now, we don't need, we must never get complacent.
It's going to be a long, long fight.
But I think the wind is in our sails in a way as it hasn't been since I've been in the business, and that's 35 years.
Barely a few weeks removed from Columbus Bay.
The wind is in our sails again.
Go to Amran.com, sign up for the 2025 American Renaissance Conference near Nashville, the 14th to the 16th of November.
We'll be right back.
Straight to it.
Thank you, Jared Taylor.
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How do you close a show?
How do you close the last three hours of a show such as this when Keith Alexander is out for the evening?
Well, there's only one way you could do it, and that is by bringing in the ultimate utility guy, a guy whose service to this cause predates my own by a damn sight.
Rick Tyler is a guy who I love to have on the show for any reason or for no reason.
He is a plug-and-play guy who always fills time with exceptionally great content.
And so I texted Rick earlier and to see if he was available.
And thankfully, he was.
And so now he will help me take this one to the house.
And it has been a good one.
To kick off November, it is a day removed from Halloween.
We are heading into what they call the holiday season.
But let's face it, what are the holidays?
It's for us.
It's Thanksgiving and Christmas.
New Year's Eve, yes, okay.
But Thanksgiving and Christmas.
And what a fun time it is these last two months of the year, every year, 21 years now in County here on TPC.
And Rick Tyler is with us tonight.
And as I shared earlier, Christine Lynn had sent me an email, and she was tuned in.
I cannot tell you how much I delight in the fact to know that peers of mine, people I respect and look up to, may be at any given time and have any given broadcast tuned in.
Rick told me when our producer connected with him for this segment that he had also been tuned in tonight.
So he got to hear Mary Fagan Keene, Eddie's report from New York, and then Jared Taylor.
So, Rick, thank you for that honor, and welcome back to the show.
Well, thank you, James.
It's always an honor and a privilege to join you.
And there is so much to talk about.
And it occurs to me just the rapidity with which time is passing.
I mean, that's a cliche, but it really is like roaring by like a freight train.
And I share the optimism of Jared.
And I myself, you know, am an incurable optimist.
I'm the glass is half full type of guy.
There's no question.
But at the same time, time is moving by extremely quickly.
And there, you know, it's so precious little time to do so much that needs to be done.
There's so much remedial work that has to be done in the restoration of our civilization and our culture.
And to say we've got our work cut out for us is the understatement of the millennium.
We've just got so much to do.
And it's inspiring that there are people that are rising to the occasion, and we can take great heart in that.
But we really need to double down now.
And, you know, Eddie in his marathon, that's a great metaphor.
We're in a marathon.
And, you know, we really have to press on and take advantage of each and every opportunity that God has provided for us because the danger is still very, very real.
It's looming in the foreground very ominously.
And we don't want to forget that either.
We don't want to be blackfield, as the saying goes, but we also don't want to be cockeyed optimists.
We don't want to be overly optimistic and think that things are better than they really are.
Yes, the pendulum is swinging a little bit in the right direction, but we still have light years to go to get things even back on an even keel.
Well, that's exactly right.
And that's why I think you are a perfect closer for tonight is because you can bring that even-handed perspective to us, having been engaged in this call as a cause, as an organizer, as a candidate, as so many things as a thought leader, as a commentator.
But yes, I have to agree with you, my friend.
I marvel at, well, every year as I grow older, it seems as though the years speed up.
It's on fast forward.
There's no pause.
There's no rewind.
And, well, just it seems as if it was yesterday that you and I were together in the early weeks of 2024 in Orlando with Steve King and Lauren Witzke for that conference.
And then you fast forward a couple of more months, and it was TPC's 20th anniversary conference in South Carolina.
And then earlier this year, the Wheel to Power Conference.
And so many, so many fruits are beginning to blossom from the seeds planted there earlier this year.
But that's almost now two years just in those three events that you and I have shared together.
And it's hard to place that.
But again, it does seem to be moving in the right direction.
Is it moving quickly enough?
Are we doing enough fast enough?
Well, I mean, I turn it over to you because, I mean, you're a guy.
You know, one thing I love about you, Rick, is that you're a guy that really goes back to my beginning when we were having these meetings at restaurants, Shoni's, you know, 20 people, you know, just doing the work.
I mean, the toil of it all, you know, for these small meetings in these small places.
And you go back to organizing meetings at Western Sisland and all of this stuff.
So, you know, you and I are kindred spirits.
So you can give us a good assessment of where exactly are we now.
How would you assess that?
A year after Trump's election victory.
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Just regular, ordinary, run-of-the-mill people are now up to speed on subject matter that 10, 20 years ago, they would have absolutely looked at you like you were.
completely insane, you know, to even broach the subject.
So that's encouraging because truth, all truth is of God.
And, you know, it's lies that enslave people when people don't know the truth about their heritage, when they don't know the truth about the historicity of their own nation that they live in, when they don't know the truth about the war between the states.
There's just so many major topics that people have been grossly and abysmally ignorant about throughout the generations of time.
But now the technology, of course, is a big part of this.
Now there's a two-edged sword there because the technology is wonderful in certain respects, but it's very dangerous in others because it's very easy now, especially with AI, for there to be so much mischief going on and so many things that can be debilitating and destructive.
So, you know, there's always the two sides of the proverbial coin.
But again, we can't take away from the fact that God, the sovereign hand of God, has given us opportunities right now that are unique, obviously, in the recorded history that we're familiar with.
And we must avail ourselves of those opportunities.
And we must, you know, a lot of water under the bridge, like you were talking about.
It just seems like a very short time ago in 2024, those conferences, after that one that you and I were at.
I attended the one that the Constitutional Sheriffs Organization that Sam Bushman played such an integral role in that was held down there in Florida.
And there were sitting sheriffs, you know, who are up to speed.
And of course, COVID, which was a big monstrosity and a debacle.
But it was used, once again, by the sovereign hand of God to wake so many people up to the realities of how a lie of gargantuan proportions can be foisted upon a people.
And I know it's a controversial thing.
There's still a lot of people who might disagree on various aspects of the COVID phenomenon.
But suffice it to say that an event like that, or a 9-11 type event, or, God forbid, something that we haven't even experienced before, which would be like civil war or some type of battle, a violent battle or conflict on our own soil, protracted in nature.
These types of things can suddenly bring things to a screeching halt.
Look at what COVID did when overnight they shut the economy down.
And we're still licking our wounds from that.
I know as a small businessman with a restaurant, we have suffered greatly from the COVID phenomenon, and it lingers to this day.
People's behavioral habits were changed by that mass exercise, that PSYOP, that mind control exercise that we were all forced to participate in.
So we need to pray with our hand on the plow, as the saying goes.
There are many within our movement who do not necessarily take a spiritual approach to this battle, but there are many that do, and there are a growing number that they enter the fray, you know, without much of a spiritual foundation, but they begin to realize that when all is said and done at the end of the day, our only real hope, you know, is that God, who sits on the throne of the universe, smiles propitiously upon us, like what happened in the time of the birthing of this country.
And so that, of course, leads to an interesting subject about the prospect of the possibility of Trump being able to serve a third term.
And of course, obviously he has denied that there's any such plan, and all of his surrogates, for the most part, deny that there's any such plan, save one, Steve Bannon, who has been a central figure in Trump's ascendancy, even though not officially, you know, since early on in his first term.
He is very steadfast in his insistence that there is going to be a third term.
Now, what it boils down to, we know there's an amendment to the Constitution that forbids it, but the mitigating factor of circumstance here is that the election of 2020 was fraught with so many irregularities and so many corrupt facets and dimensions that a legal case could very well be marshaled to the effect that Trump was denied the opportunity to serve two consecutive terms.
And you know, there's a lot of revelations now coming out of the Trump Justice Department, coming out of the National Security Agency with Tulsi Gabbard at the helm.
There are a lot of revelations coming out that are basically building an ironclad case as to the degree and the extent of the conspiracy that has gone on since the Obama administration, at least, against Trump.
And, you know, of course, remember, Trump was trolling Obama back during his tenure about the birth certificate and all that.
So this is an interesting subject that I believe we should explore a little bit more.
I absolutely agree with you.
It is provocative.
It is just good content for conversation on American Talk Radio.
That's what we're doing.
And we'll do it when we continue with Rick Tyler for one more segment.
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Well, we are back with Rick Tyler wrapping up an eventful night here on TPC.
First, with Mary Fagan Keene.
the namesake and the grand niece of little Mary Fagan and that whole ordeal and everything that has spawned as a result of it.
That was the first hour.
Eddie, the Popper Miller in New York City tonight.
I mean, for a southern boy to be in the grits and glamour of Manhattan, that is a story in and of itself.
And so that is what we talked about there in the second hour and topics attendant to it.
Kicking off the third hour, Jared Taylor recently toured the return to the land settlement in Arkansas.
He gave us his assessment of that and then some.
And of course, we talked about the American Renaissance Conference coming up just two weeks from tonight.
Two weeks from tonight, you could be with Jared Taylor and Eric Orwal and others at the American Renaissance Conference, amran.com.
But closing out tonight's show is our dear good friend, longtime friend and longtime patriot and a man who has been at this longer than your humble servant, Rick Tyler, is with us.
And Rick, there's never a wrong reason to bring you on.
There's never any reason to bring you on.
You just come on and you fill the time.
Certainly one of my favorites.
And we were talking about before the break the prospect or the threat or the taunt.
You know, it almost seems like a taunt when he does these press junkets on an airplane and he teases a third term.
What's going on with a potential Trump third term?
Well, I believe that he was, in fact, cheated out of the opportunity to serve two consecutive terms.
And by the way, that's a very important part of presidential politics.
I mean, to be able to stack two terms back to back, you know, that's how you really dramatically increase the potentiality of what you can get done, you know, even though the second term, towards the end of it, you're, you know, the proverbial lame duck.
But Trump, I believe, had that stolen from him.
And I do believe that there should be a remedy at law for that, that there should be somehow some novel legal procedure that could be embarked upon and potentially successfully accomplished.
I mean, the Supreme Court has a propensity to go in Trump's direction.
And there are all kinds of surprises that can await people when you get into the realm of the legal system.
So is it a far-fetched proposition that Trump may, in fact, still be president in 2028?
Now, people point to the fact that he would be 82, I believe, at the commencement of another term.
But Trump is vibrant.
But I got to admit, he looks very vibrant for his age.
There's no doubt about it.
He's the only guy that I've ever seen in my lifetime who becomes president who doesn't age horrifyingly.
And, you know, just categories.
He reverses it.
Yeah.
He reverses it.
Yeah.
So, you know, you've got all of these factors.
And, of course, our people are very suspect as well of certain aspects of Trump's agenda.
You know, he's the most Zionist president we've ever had.
There's no question about that.
But he's such an interesting mix of ingredients.
And the good, you know, on the surface at least, significantly outweighs the bad.
And when you consider what the alternative would have been or would be, and of course, there's another factor.
There really is, James.
There's nobody that can fill Trump's shoes.
Rick, let me just ask you this very quickly, if you don't mind this interjection.
I think it's an important question, and it's one that we need to ask from time to time as we continue to navigate through this administration in the next four years.
But we are now almost a year removed from his election, and of course, he assumed office again in January.
And, you know, it was actually an interview with Steve King and Lou Moore that gave birth to that conference we had in South Carolina earlier this year.
And from there, other sprouts have sprung.
But you, Rick Tyler, who is someone who has a history of an unimpeachable history of service to our cause on all of the issues on racial reality, on identitarianism, on the Jewish question.
So I asked you this, Rick Tyler, a year removed from his defeat of Kamala Harris, how would you assess Donald Trump?
And what we have gotten from him.
Well, we've gotten some truly extraordinary beneficial developments.
First of all, the use of the pardoning power of the presidency.
To come in like he did and issue sweeping pardons to all of the victims of the Fed surrection of January 6th.
And, you know, it's come out now that there were hundreds of FBI agents.
And, you know, Patel says they were there for crowd control hogwash.
They were there to provocateur, and they did.
And, you know, again, it's, you know, conspiratorial, and a lot of people shy away from that.
But, you know, conspiracies are a part of life.
It says in the scripture back in the Old Testament, there was a conspiracy among the priesthood.
Men, evil, fallen, wicked men conspire.
And so Trump to issue forth those pardons like he did, that was a really extraordinary act on his part.
And, you know, if you've ever had any kind of brush at all with the criminal justice system, if you've ever had any experience of incarceration, Steve Bannon, I mentioned him earlier, he went to prison for six months or so and came out with his eyes wide open as to how terrible our prison system is.
It really is.
It's so drastically in need of reform.
And so Trump freed those people.
And that was an act of mercy, the likes of which we've never seen.
Now, unprecedented.
I can remember if you would indulge me, Rick.
We were with Linda Baum and Brad Griffin and others associated with the Conservative Citizens Foundation.
They had come to Memphis for a show back in January.
And on that show, it was immediately after, it was the week prior to that, we had had the aforementioned show with Steve King and Lou Moore, sort of forecasting the best case scenario for Trump 2.0.
And then a week later, he assumed office in the intervening time between one Saturday and the next.
And he had pardoned all of these J-6 prisoners.
We had on that show the following week one of the released J-6 prisoners, a man by the name of Christian Sikor, and Brad Griffin was on the show that night and others.
And so, and that was one of the things that King and Moore had cited as a best case scenario is that he would release even some of the J-6 prisoners.
And within the first minutes, he released all of them.
And that was just getting things kicked off and started.
Yes.
And, you know, of course, the border is something also of, you know, massive proportions in terms of its importance and significance to have stopped the hemorrhage.
Now, again, you know, like the old video that used to circulate, Immigration by the Numbers shows, you know, even if we had, you know, tremendous success as far as deportation and self-deportation and all that, we're already so far gone demographically, you know, that it's hard to marshal an optimistic argument about, you know, the restoration of the proper demographic in America.
But still, to have stopped the hemorrhage, you know, like Trump's agency has done.
And now, of course, obviously the whole debacle going on with ICE and the way it's being used as a staging grounds potentially for civil war.
Remember the Hegelian dialectic, one step back and two forward.
And the enemy is skillfully adept at utilizing that procedure.
They will take a step back only to take the two forward.
And, of course, have the net gain in the process.
And so the efforts being marshaled against the federal agents who are doing the rounding up and the deportations could very well become the soil in which civil war is fomented.
We know that a movie was actually rolled out called Civil War.
And it was predictive programming very much in terms of what they would like to do.
It was a year before Trump got re-elected, that movie came out, yes.
With the hurt him.
It showed the formation of what was called a Western Alliance, which California was prominent in.
And guess what?
Gavin Newsom is using the terminology Western Alliance.
And there is real talk of a division in the country.
And anybody who writes that off is just some kind of impossibility, once again, needs to be grounded in reality.
We are in uncharted waters, James.
It is very, very difficult to make predictions right now.
The only thing that's certain is that everything is uncertain.
And one thing we know for sure, people that have the limitless funding, and of course, with Elon Musk Doge work early on in Trump's new term, we got a glimpse of where that $35 trillion came from, that we are in debt as a country right now.
And the things that were being revealed and were being shown forth in that short period of time.
All of these NGOs, they just are connected to a limitless source of illicit funding.
Stacey Abrams got $2 billion.
So we're up against this tidal wave of, we know that it's funny money, but as long as the economy is maintained, it spins.
There's definitely a path that exists, let me assure you folks, where we lose.
But more so now than ever, I believe there's a path that exists where we can win.
And who knows where that path leads.
A lot of chatter on the internet this week that JD is going to divorce Busha and marry Erica Kirk, but it'll become the next person.
Who knows where it'll go?
But I'll tell you this, wherever it goes, we'll be here with friends like this tonight for Rick Tyler, Jared Taylor, and Mary Fagan.