The Political Cesspool - James Edwards - Radio Show Hour 1

July 20, 2025 - The Political Cesspool - James Edwards

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Radio Show Hour 1 – 2025/07/19

David Zsutty, Executive Director of the Homeland Institute, discusses the findings of his organization’s recent poll about non-interventionism and the Iran-Israel War, which indicates that support for Zionism has dropped dramatically, especially among young voters, since a similar poll was run a year and a half ago.
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	But first, right now, we are joined once again by our good friend David Zuddy, the executive director of the Homeland Institute.
	He is back with us again tonight for the third time this year to discuss his organization's recent poll about non-interventionism and the Iran-Israel war, which indicates his findings.
	Their data indicates that support for Zionism has dropped dramatically, especially among young voters, since a similar poll was run by the Homeland Institute a year and a half ago.
	So we will start right there.
	David, welcome back to the program.
	Hey, it's great feedback.
	As always, thanks for having me on.
	Well, you're very welcome.
	And as we take the breaks this first hour, we will intersperse some more reminders about your background and your bio and the mission of the Homeland Institute.
	You are such a regular on the program now for the past handful of years.
	I feel as though most people know you, but of course you are the executive director of the Homeland Institute.
	And one of the unique things about your organization, in addition to its stated mission, is the fact that you conduct, you're uniquely known for conducting polling about our issues using scientific methodology.
	So here with the Homeland Institute, we have an organization on our side that is engaging in polling exclusively amongst, or rather of, white respondents to help us craft messaging and better understand where the people are and how we can meet them with our message.
	But this most recent poll is very interesting.
	All of your polls are interesting.
	But this one is interesting because it's a follow-up to a poll that the Homeland Institute conducted about 18 months ago.
	So it's on non-invention interventionism in the light of the 12-day war.
	So help us begin to unpack that data, David.
	Right.
	So the great thing about the Homeland Institute is that we can't, along with just asking what we want to ask, we can also ask when we want to ask it.
	Before, we were dependent upon other people asking questions for us and also when they would ask it.
	For example, it's very difficult to track interesting trends over time unless they did it themselves.
	And thanks to us, that is no longer an issue.
	And when the 12-day war erupted, it was very stressful.
	This could have gone south very easily.
	Thankfully, all sides were able to do, as they say, in diplomacy, take an off-ramp, take a diplomatic off-ramp and de-escalate.
	I don't know about the future, but this time we got lucky.
	And so I wanted to redo that poll, which you mentioned from January 2024, to see how people's opinions had changed over time.
	Their original poll in January 2024 was shortly after the huge conflict that Israel has had with everyone around them, specifically Hamas.
	It seems like their entire neighborhood began on October 7th, so a few months after that.
	And so we could get a nice baseline and then to see where opinion goes.
	And there's been a, overall, amongst the white electorate, there's been a small drop kind of within the margin of errors.
	But amongst the youth 18 to 29, it has completely fallen apart.
	Zionism is really a thing of the past now.
	We're just waiting for this to catch up with voting patterns.
	And politicians should take heed of this because this is the future.
	And they are, it's very strange.
	You usually see rats jumping off of a sinking ship, but all the politicians and pundits, most of them are jumping onto the sinking ship.
	And I don't know, maybe Epstein Island has something to do with that, but I digress.
	But yeah, this is very, very encouraging that we're finally turning the page and being unburdened, as Kamala would say, on Zionism, which really, if we take a step back and look at this objectively, it's kind of like it's a cult.
	It's more of a cult than Scientology.
	Scientology has some weird stuff about alien holocaust that may have happened in the distant past.
	They have auditing, which they might use for blackmail.
	It's all very transactional.
	They even had gift cards that actually wound up in constitutional law, but they don't systematically bribe and blackmail our politicians.
	They don't say that the way to be a nationalist is not to put America first, it's to put Israel first.
	Like that cliché about you bless Israel, you get blessed, you curse them, you get cursed.
	No other country thinks like that.
	Imagine if we told Tajikistan, you have to bless Zimbabwe to be blessed, and if you curse them, you'll be cursed.
	People wouldn't buy that.
	So this is a cult.
	It's very destructive.
	It's very much like a zeitgeist, just like the left has a lot of their issues, like take the vaccine, it's safe, borough.
	We have to support Israel.
	And this is just falling apart amongst the youth.
	There's a nice return to realism, thankfully.
	And what's happening is that, yes, party identification is a strong indicator for Zionism.
	Democrats are very opposed to Israel.
	That's mostly because, in my opinion, they erroneously see Israel as a white colonial power.
	That's not correct at all.
	They're not white, but that's in their head.
	It's real in their heads.
	And Republicans generally saw Israel as a, you know, generally positive, a lot that had to do with vicarious nationalism, where it wasn't, you could kind of get away with being pro-American, but you couldn't be pro-white in polite company for decades.
	And so where does that natural energy go?
	Well, it got diverted into sports ball on one hand, like shouting for your team and all that.
	But then also towards Israel.
	You could fight everyone.
	And this is what James Kirkpatrick says, is that everybody is a blood and soil nationalist for the people they care about.
	That might be a question we, that might be a statement we pull on and ask people about in the future, a hint hint.
	But in my opinion, that did drive a lot of the Zionism of the past.
	And it's simply ending.
	Now, age is almost as strong an indicator of being anti-Zionist as party affiliate.
	And a quick note about methodology.
	I talked about boomers and Zionism in the past and countercurrents.
	It got some feisty comments of the feedback, which I appreciate.
	Knoxalt, which is shorthand for not extra like that, still applies.
	We're talking about broad trends amongst the electorate.
	For example, we have trends amongst male voters and female voters, amongst college-educated and non-college-educated, college-educated, you know, non-college educated males are a different creature than college-educated females.
	We still have super-based college-educated females and then looped-hearted males without college degrees.
	So that's this little boilerplate there, not stepping on any toes.
	We had some very outstanding boomers, but it is a general trend in society that correlates with age.
	And with age, it's definitely falling apart amongst the youth.
	This is very encouraging.
	Green Blatt, apparently, his little ADL outfit has been doing polls on this too because a while back, it was very infamous.
	It blew up all over social media.
	There was some leaked audio where he talked about how this wasn't an ideology thing, it was a generational thing.
	So it's great that Holman can do what the ADL is doing and do our own poll seeing what's going on.
	Except, unlike them, we share it with the public.
	So, yeah, the first point I want to get to is how amongst respondents age.
	So, first of all, this is only a white registered voters.
	In the future, I would like to expand our polls to non-white voters too, or maybe just Hispanics.
	That's easier said than done because people aren't interchangeable.
	And I won't go into all the methodology, but it's easier said than done.
	Also, white voters change more than the others.
	They're a little bit more mercurial, so they're a little bit more important in that regards.
	And we're still 70% of the electorate.
	But for white voters age 18 to 29, who answered.
	So, first of all, we asked, how do you see Israel's relationship with America?
	Is it for America a major net positive, minor net positive, neutral, negative?
	I don't know.
	Well, the numbers of 18 to 29-year-olds who answered a major net negative spiked from 9.3% in January 2024, a year and a half ago, to a whopping 24.6%.
	That's huge.
	That's over a double.
	And that's indicative.
	David, I want to pause you right there just as a point of emphasis.
	I think if you were reading this thing, if you're reading along at homelandinstitute.org and you're following along, or if you're listening to this later and you are on the archive and you want to pull it up on your computer, this is the thing that you that would glow in this report.
	As you were saying in this poll about non-interventionism in light of the 12-day war, very interesting because you ran this poll a year and a half ago.
	So this is an updated poll to let you see how the trends are developing and changing or have changed over the course of the last 18 months.
	That's what I think really makes this poll interesting.
	But the one thing you would want to have highlighted is what you just read.
	You said the opinion on Israel has remained, for better or worse, pretty much within the margin of error with most age demographic groups except for those aged 18 to 29.
	Those who answered that U.S., the United States relationship with Israel is a major net negative has spiked from 9.3% to 24.6% in just the last 18 months.
	That is a huge shift.
	Keith Alexander, very quickly before the break.
	Okay, I've got a modest proposal, David.
	Rather than focusing on age, what about Christian fundamentalists versus other Christians?
	I'm a little bit more.
	I've never heard a non-fundamentalist quote, he blesses Israel.
	All right, we'll be right back.
	We've got to take a break, and we got Keith on his bike now.
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	All right, everybody, we are back, of course, with David Zutty, director of the Homeland Institute, and he is an attorney in the state of California.
	David earned his BA in political science from the University of California, San Diego, and his J.D. from Chapman University's Dale E. Fowler School of Law before studying law.
	Our guest David Zutty served six years in the United States Air Force as an airborne linguist and achieved the rank of staff sergeant.
	Now, of course, he is with us in his capacity as the executive director of the Homeland Institute.
	Very interesting poll indeed.
	And what we were covering right before the break, David, was the fact that on this question of how Americans, white Americans, the nearly 900 that you polled for this survey, how they view America's relationship with Israel, of the demographic that you would want to be winning with, that is the demographic that doesn't have the power now or the resources or the wealth now, but the ones who will be assuming it in short order, 18 to 29, 9.3% to 24.6%.
	That is a huge jump in a very short period of time, and they are moving in our direction on that question.
	Right.
	That's a big deal.
	And coming back to Kevin's question, I don't ask about religion.
	That's not a characteristic that I control for.
	I control for things like Trump support, BLM support, because that is kind of what we have asking your general racial attitudes if you're support, oppose, or are neutral on Black Lives Matter and all that nonsense.
	Also, education is big.
	Age, party affiliation, their ideology, like are they slightly conservative versus extremely conservative, moderate, all that.
	This is kind of like mainline, but I don't ask about religion.
	I could ask about that in the future and see if there's that.
	But you do have a good point that it is a fundamentalist Christian thing, probably.
	A lot of, like you said, I somehow doubt a lot of mainline Protestants believe that, all this stuff, but these memes are toxic.
	They do spread.
	So that's definitely something I could explore in the future.
	Homeman polls, so far I've wanted to keep it safe from being targeted by law affairs, so I've kind of opposed directly asking about the Jewish question overall.
	It's more focused on foreign policy and Zionism when it comes to Jews.
	But that could change in the future.
	Like the times, they are changing very, very quickly.
	And of course, if you go to my Twitter, my ex-account, I definitely do not shy away from the Jewish question.
	I'll just say that.
	But, well, I found something.
	Go ahead.
	Oh yeah, sorry.
	So going back to that, like we the how we definitely want to win them in win in the age bracket if we had to win on anything at all.
	I think it's big because I've been reading this book called The Moderate Majority.
	It's by a leftist, but I think it's important to get his research, see his view of things.
	His general thesis from what I've read between the lines so far is he's trying to get other leftists to pump the brakes on being so radical.
	But he said it's very interesting how the general Republican base is not as radical as everyone says it is.
	Like you would think that they're terrible right-wing.
	They're actually very moderate.
	In fact, they're moving slightly slowly to the left.
	We're always concerned that liberals are going towards full gay race communism at 100 miles per hour, conservatives at, they're driving the speed limit.
	And his research tends to back that up.
	Now, I haven't finished it, but I do have a theory about this, and that is that we punch above our weight because we control the staffers.
	And part of this is because we have fewer educated people.
	So it's actually good because that means that if we get all the college Republicans to be super red pill and based, well, those people are the hiring poll they have for staffers.
	They only have so many ladder climbing social paths.
	It's easier for us to make a difference here.
	You have young kids in college who are liberals or a dime a dozen.
	So if we control that demographic, we do control people who basically work with congressmen.
	And maybe they whisper little things into congressional ears.
	They plot amongst themselves.
	So I think that's how we're making policy here.
	That's why it's important to win the youth is that the youth are the ones who are going to be staffing stuff or will go on to staff stuff and they're political.
	So David, if we're getting this demographic, but this demographic is loaded down with leftists, what does that say?
	I don't think that they are.
	I think that there is a shift.
	That's why I want to see that.
	The college-educated people are just totally sold out, I think.
	Well, I meant political staffers.
	So congressman, your Republican congressman probably isn't going to have too many liberals in his office.
	He might have a token liberal, but he needs to have conservatives.
	And where do you find interns, staffers, volunteers?
	Law of political campaigns, really, they're made or broken by volunteers.
	Now, you can get volunteers by paying for them, but the best ones, in my opinion, don't do it for the money.
	They do it because they know the person or they believe in something.
	Well, if you control those people, and there's a split here.
	A guy who wears a Che Guevara shirt is not going to volunteer on a Republican congressional campaign.
	Well, also, selective versus non-selective colleges, I think you're going to find a lot more of the left coming from the selective colleges and a lot more of the conservatives coming from the non-selective.
	Well, if you go back, though.
	Which means that the conservatives who have advanced degrees, they're a rare animal.
	So they have something of a monopoly.
	I wouldn't say a full monopoly.
	It's still an employer market in this regard, but the employees have a little bit more power because they are rarer.
	There's not as many based educated Republicans to go around with advanced degrees.
	So if we get this demographic, it's a way to kind of get a foot in the door of the political establishment and make policy.
	Okay.
	Well, now, and this is, again, and I want to pick up the pace a little bit because there's a lot of other interesting questions that this poll took into consideration, and we want to get the answers on that.
	But as far as this age demographic that we're talking about right now, 18 to 29-year-olds, Trump picked up in that bracket as well.
	There are a lot of, for lack of a better term, something I can say that people will understand where I'm pointing at.
	There is a rise of right-wingers in that age demographic.
	The conventional wisdom was that with each subsequent generation, it's going to become more and more leftist.
	That trend has been bucked as of the last few years.
	And you see it anecdotally, you see it in polling, you just see it.
	Now, just very quickly, David, your personal opinion on this, and then I want to move on to your question about bombing the world and porting the world, that phenomenon.
	But invade the world and port the world.
	Or just bomb it.
	They don't really invade anymore.
	That's what the original story is.
	Right.
	But overall, what do you think that this trend could portend going forward?
	The fact that, you know, could we see another 15% jump in the next year and a half on this question of Israeli relations?
	What do you think that this means going forward for Jews, for Israel, for the United States, for all of us?
	So an object in motion tends to stay in motion, and I don't see why this is bottom out anytime soon.
	It's something like birth rates.
	Like, India's birth rates are collapsing.
	Ours are stabilized.
	I don't see why this would stabilize because what's driving it is that people no longer have these fundamentalist beliefs.
	Also, we're living in an age where Israeli war crimes are broadcasted on X and Telegram.
	It's hard to deny.
	They demand that we deny the things we see before our eyes.
	And we believe that we were supposed to believe their double standards, clap like train seals.
	That's not going to work in this day and age.
	That was more easily done when you had, it was only television and there were three channels, but this isn't going to fly anymore.
	And also because people are, they have a bad.
	Frankly, David, it's not going to fly outside of Congress and the media, which is, of course, bought and paid for.
	Other than that, the normal people, you're seeing a shift big time in our direction.
	And for all the support they've extracted, it's finally catching up with them.
	People have a bad taste in their mouth from the global war on terror.
	If you want more data on that, we asked about it in the January 2024 poll, but that was a total failure.
	That really made a lot of millennials like Hegseth anti-interventionist.
	And I see going forward that the most support that America will be able to provide Israel is limited airstrikes, like we saw where it's like a single, almost symbolic strike.
	I don't think it did that much damage, actually, despite all the money it wasted.
	Netanyahu wants us to fight a war of conquest, and I think that Trump has tried to avoid that.
	Also, I just heard that Netanyahu is trying to somehow get America on board about some moving of the Palestinian people from Gaza to somewhere else.
	And of course, that somewhere else always winds up being a majority white nation.
	Right.
	How can we sidestep that fake worth and death of Netanyahu?
	Well, I mean, this again, I think what David is saying is, and I'm going to stick to the poll, and we've got so much more to cover in the second half of this hour, what remains of this interview, this hour.
	We're going to just go as quickly as we can to the other questions.
	But I think this was one worth spending a little extra time on.
	But you're saying, are you saying, David, that because trends are moving in this direction, and if we see it, the politicians certainly see it.
	Do you think that's something that's given them pause on just lighting up the Middle East like they would have during the Bush administration?
	Oh, yeah.
	So if this has happened during the global war on, or as I would say of, terror, there would have been like a Balkan-style, like, what America did disturb you is non-stop bombing, bombing, bombing.
	And they know they can't do that.
	So they were limited to a symbolic strike.
	Now, the Jews, they're not in a good position.
	If this was a PC strategy game, and I had to switch positions with them and play on their end, I don't see any good budgets in press.
	They have no good options.
	So, and that's the thing, too.
	These people don't read books.
	They don't play strategy games.
	They're bad at politics.
	But I don't see what they can do.
	And a lot, I have a theory also I'll tell you about where this will go where they might actually snuggle up to China and switch sides.
	But our politicians would like to sell out to Israel.
	Here's the thing.
	Israel knows that since they can't, since we're going to be useless to them eventually, they might as well use this while they have us.
	So they're going to exploit everything they can.
	But thankfully, due to the way public opinion is shifting, it hopefully won't be that bad.
	If we get involved again, it'll be some more symbolic, low-energy airstrikes.
	Ideally, nothing at all because this isn't our fight.
	In fact, Nathan D'Amigo has said some feisty things, which I find myself agreeing with.
	If we got involved at all, maybe it should be bombing Israel.
	They bombed the USS Liberty.
	They apparently conducted a systematic blackmail operation via Epstein.
	So if we're bombing anybody, it should probably be Tel Aviv.
	I can't argue with it.
	It's kind of true.
	It's very true.
	Netanyahu, though.
	Is Netanyahu in danger of losing his position?
	And if he does, will his replacement be more or less interventionist than Netanyahu?
	Well, we'll let David and the rest of the.
	David, if you can give a quick five-second answer on that.
	Netanyahu's delfing hot water with the Jews back home with their culture critique.
	I don't know if it'd be worse or better his replacement.
	All right, we'll be right back.
	David Zutty, Homeland Institute.
	We're going to continue talking about the findings of this poll.
	Stay tuned.
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	David, we are talking with you about your follow-up poll on non-interventionism.
	The first poll was 18 months ago.
	You inquired about the, as we put it, the bomb the world, invite the world phenomenon.
	And what were the findings that you gathered?
	So it's good is that opposition to that phenomenon stayed mostly within the margin of the last poll.
	There was a slight increase in our favor.
	And what's strange is that there definitely are some categorical imperatives at work here.
	Republicans will still support Israel, even though they admit that bombing, basically fighting on behalf of Israel, increases the risk of terror attacks.
	And Democrats still support importing refugees, even though they admit that might be a problem.
	But what's good is that Republicans and independents are very strongly in opposition towards importing people from Gaza.
	and that's big because there's been this general talk about let's get them out of there, like let's bring them Trump has had this horrible idea about turning it into like a strip mall or something or like Las Vegas But where do they go?
	Well, they apparently were supposed to come here, elsewhere.
	It's very important to note that there are a bunch of Muslim countries nearby that are Muslim, they're ethnically Arab.
	They don't take them in.
	And they don't want them there.
	Not Egypt, not Jordan, not Lebanon.
	That should tell you something.
	And Greg Johnson at the start of the conflict made a very good observation where we cannot allow people to have it both ways and talk out of both sides of their mouth.
	Right now, Israel is treating the Palestinians like they are subhuman savages who are only fit to be bombed into rubble.
	I don't know if that's true.
	I don't think they're subhuman.
	But if that's true, why would they come here?
	We're allowing them to come here.
	Are you kidding me?
	If they're two, you can't have it both ways, where there are these wonderful, beautiful people that will come and enrich your country, but then they also deserve to have ordinance, you know, have their schools blown up, their houses blown up, completely brutalized because they're that evil, apparently, because the Jews don't like them.
	You cannot have it both ways.
	And we cannot allow people to do this.
	They don't like us either.
	Nope, they don't like us either.
	They do not see us as saviors.
	And that's why when certain people in our sphere go down the throw-roll this pipeline, I kind of have to say, like, these people would never like us, and I don't necessarily want them to like us.
	Like, they're low IQ, violent.
	I believe that they should be given human rights, human dignity.
	That means they should not be unreasonably deprived of life, liberty, or property.
	That doesn't mean that they get to trapeze across the world and come here.
	And if you look at immigration law, which you would think is like extremely left-wing, it's actually very conservative if it was actually applied as it is written on the books, where if you're an asylum seeker or refugee, you're supposed to stop at the first available safe country.
	You do not pass go.
	You do not collect $200 in a cell phone from an NGO.
	You do not go to Britain, not to Germany, not to America.
	You stop.
	Stop and do not pass go.
	But they all want to just go right to white countries because we're better off or to colonize and imperialize us.
	And no, so this, thankfully, Republicans, Democrats, you can't have enough immigration.
	They're always wonderful and good, especially since they tend to vote Democrat.
	But Republicans and independents are not falling for that.
	And that's good because that will probably take any effort by definitely the Trump administration and possibly even a hypothetical Democrat administration to bring these people here.
	And this is important because we should not be importing people from the broader third world that we're always bombing or intervening in because that tends to make them dislike us.
	But definitely where countries already had a direct conflict, Britain is doing the exact opposite.
	They're importing Afghanis.
	There's been a scandal where they were secretly importing Afghanis.
	After Britain joined us in running around Afghanistan in a failed global war on terror, annoying them.
	And oftentimes we had to decide with some very bad, bad, shady people in the name of so-called democracy, because that was the only people who would ally with us against the Taliban, which implies we shouldn't have been there to begin with.
	But thankfully, I think for and that's also not even just an age thing.
	That was a party thing across all age groups.
	So pretty much Republicans and independents get it.
	We're not going to bomb these people and then invite them in.
	Opposition to that was very high.
	That's good.
	Now, but, and this sounds like a repeat of the first question, but you asked specifically about intervention on behalf of Israel.
	You put a name to it, a specific question about what do you think about intervention on behalf of Israel itself.
	And there was some movement on that question as well, right, David?
	I think there was.
	I think people, let me find that.
	It's a long poll, unfortunately.
	But well, I've got, do you want me to just read the synopsis of that one?
	I'll just share very quickly.
	So, again, this is in contrast to the January 2024 poll when you're asking these white respondents about intervention on behalf of Israel.
	And it looks like.
	Oh, yes, I forgot that one.
	Here's one example.
	Even among young Republicans age 18 to 29, we're talking about, support dropped in the last 18 months from 52.1% in favor of intervention on behalf of Israel in January of 24 to June of 2025, 37.8%, with more young Republicans now opposing intervention on behalf of Israel than supporting it.
	That's pretty interesting.
	That's great.
	They still generally think that support for Israel is a net positive.
	And there was a strange paradox in that, and that more young Republicans age 18 to 29 supported airstrikes than economic material support.
	So I don't understand that.
	Maybe young guys just like explosions, or they think they'd rather, instead of having a slow drip of aid, they'd rather just do one decisive strike and end it.
	Even though Machiavelli says wars begin when you please, they don't necessarily end when you will, or however that goes.
	But generally, that's good because the slow drip list killing us of having to constantly resupply Israel with interceptors.
	And even though it's not as great as it could be, it's still a huge move in the right direction where they're no longer going to give blank checks to Israel like Randy Fine would have us do.
	They might still like to support airstrikes, but that support has definitely dropped a lot, and that's very good.
	And also this poll reads.
	Well, I was just going to say very quickly to explain it to the audience: you are polling exclusively white men and women, but you are polling Republicans, Democrats, and Independents.
	So it's a cross-section there.
	Yes, it's all white, but it is.
	Yes, it goes throughout the ideological spectrum.
	And of all respondents, Republicans, Democrats, and Independents, 60% are strongly opposed.
	Hence, you know, highlight the word strongly opposed direct intervention with troops on the ground.
	So that's another encouraging takeaway here.
	Well, another thing that while we're talking about it is that they're doing the same thing with the Ukraine.
	They're telling NATO, you're on a cash and carry basis.
	America is going to send you the weapons, but you're going to have to get them to the Ukrainians, and you're going to be paying for them not on the easy pay plan, but cash and carry.
	So apparently, if we took that position with both Israel and with NATO, I think that would slow down the war machine quite a bit.
	What do you think?
	Well, here's the thing.
	My opinion on Ukraine is that Russia is the aggressor here.
	I don't support what Ukraine is doing to Hungary, harassing them, but at some point this simply was a KGB agent trying to gobble up some land here.
	But I think it'd be a good thing if America did stop supplying Europe with arms because it would force Europe to get serious.
	Right now, Europe has three luxury things that it indulges in.
	One, a welfare state, two, migration, three, having America fight its wars for them or defend them.
	Those are three luxuries, and they shouldn't.
	And if we take away the luxury of NATO, of us spending a large part of our GDP while they fall short of their NATO 2% goal, which is hardly any of them make it, actually, they're basically free riding off of us.
	That would force them to defend themselves.
	And therefore, they would have to ask, can we indulge this migration nonsense, the great replacement?
	They'd have to choose between either of the welfare.
	Yeah.
	Jewish power and influence started that war, though, with that color revolution and everything else with Victoria Newland, Anthony Blink, and people like that.
	Well, I mean, again, we're getting off of the purpose of the poll, but nevertheless, I mean, it's all, I guess, tangentially related.
	And we, well, my goodness, already another break with one segment remaining.
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	Now, David, we have spent the majority of this hour talking about your newest poll, which is an update, an 18-month, an update on a poll that was taken 18 months ago dealing with foreign entanglements, military interventionism, and things like that.
	So I want to ask you one more question, and then I want to get to your six key takeaways from the findings of this most recent poll, which I think will leave people encouraged before we move on to the second hour with our guest Thomas Rousseau, who is standing by from Patriot Front.
	But you asked people about a hypothetical draft, and there were no surprises there, or were there?
	Well, yes, so it's deeply unpopular, and there is no surprise there.
	But the change over a year and a half, which is great how we're able to track public opinion on these issues, there is a huge drop in people saying that they would resist the draft in different methods.
	So amongst 18 to 29, the people who said that they either are already ineligible or would make themselves ineligible went from 38.8% to 50.7%.
	So a 12% jump takes you them to about half.
	Half of all Zoomers would just make themselves ineligible.
	And as a veteran, I want to chime in here.
	That is extremely easy.
	Now, of course, the military changes their rules on a whim and does whatever they feel like on whatever day.
	But still, you have to follow the rules, but they just make things up.
	There's a waiver for everything.
	But there's a thing.
	It's so easy.
	Like, did you do drugs?
	Or you could claim you did it.
	I'm not saying you should lie, but at this point, they don't even need to lie.
	Like, a lot of these people are out of shape.
	A lot of Zoomers have severe psychological issues.
	Like, again, I don't just criticize boomers.
	The Zoomers are, they're some great Zoomers, but man, they have issues.
	And so they have psychological issues, fat people, all sorts of problems, drug use.
	This could easily take it.
	Yeah, this could really, really easily.
	I don't know if that's going to get you disqualified from the military.
	I would say that you went to an American Renaissance conference.
	Would that do it?
	I mean, something like that.
	It could.
	My friend, like, so many people were harassed about that.
	Like, so at that point, they would have to basically let you say the 14 words and maybe some other stuff, too.
	But it'd be easy.
	Like, it's very, you don't even need to lie to make yourself ineligible.
	And people aren't going to go along with it.
	You don't even need to do draft dodging like in Vietnam.
	You can simply be a problem child.
	There's so many people who even supposedly want to either have failure to adjust, which I call failure to adult, but I digress.
	I've got a different flag at home, Mr. Officer, Mr. Recruiter.
	Okay, but nevertheless, it is interesting that since October and the whole kickoff in Gaza, I don't know if this is correlated to that, if it's causal or what, but nevertheless, I mean, you would have to imagine that somehow it is factoring in here that the number of people who are viscerally opposed to being drafted or there being a draft at all has jumped quite a bit in the last 18 months.
	That's where you stopped preaching and started meddling, as they say here in the South, when you start talking about a draft.
	Right.
	And that's important because it's prevented Israel from doing the last Hail Mary where they might do a false flag.
	Like September 11th, I think all the intelligence agencies in Israel knew it was going to happen and let it happen.
	Similar to how FDR allowed Pearl Harbor to happen.
	If Israel and the deep state, which Trump has yet to clear out, were to try to do another shenanigan like that, I don't think people would fall for a false flag or allowing an attack to go forward.
	Because, you know, David, you're onto something here.
	We've seen that so many times in the past.
	And I mean, my God, I mean, we have lost all of the innocence that America had in the 1940s, where it was a high-trust society, was a racially homogenous society.
	So when the Japs are bombing Pearl Harbor, we're all going to go to war, no matter what.
	Even though Lindbergh was right, and the America First Committee was right, and we should have never gone to war.
	It was much easier to manipulate that population into war than it is this population.
	This population, the age of social media, there's nothing they haven't seen.
	They've got JFK, they've got RFK, they've got RFK Jr., I mean, JFK Jr.
	They had 9-11.
	You know, they're just people that are paying attention realize that this is the standard operating procedure and influence.
	There's so many more places to get information now than there was in the 40s.
	Yeah, so I mean, you're saying that some of these polls and trends may have been why Israel didn't push further and harder last month or back in June.
	Right.
	I'm sure they would love to have us go back to a second global war on terror, but that's essentially off the table for both parties.
	And that means they simply have to do volunteerism, and people aren't going to die for Israel.
	Yeah, exactly.
	And your polls already fleshed that out.
	This has deleted entire divisions.
	Yeah.
	This has deleted entire divisions from the geopolitical arena.
	So people say the online activism isn't important, or your flyers aren't important, your stickers, your activism, like what Thomas Rousseau does, like he's going to probably talk about.
	They deride that.
	I'm very glad we've done activism with Identity Europa.
	And people would say, like, your little flyer isn't going to change anything.
	Your tweet won't change anything.
	It did.
	At some point, our combination of the people.
	And that deleted entire divisions from Israel's chess set.
	I got to ask you this because we're running out of time, but you are right.
	Collectively, it all goes onto the pyre.
	One individual flyer, maybe not.
	But all of it together, all of it, all of it, all of us, all of the people we talk to, all of the different organizations, all of the different activism administrations, yes, it does make a difference.
	It absolutely makes a difference.
	Now, six key takeaways from this poll, which you can find again at homelandinstitute.org.
	We've got about three minutes remaining, so we'll have to move quickly.
	But there are some encouraging takeaways, and we're going to let you rattle them off.
	David, go ahead.
	Yes, so support for foreign intervention on behalf of Israel is declining, especially among young voters.
	Another thing, although support for Israel is higher among Republicans, age is becoming as important as party affiliation in regards to support for Zionism.
	Support for direct military intervention in Israel's ongoing conflicts with airstrikes is low, and even lower for troops on the ground.
	Troops on the ground is basically non-existent except for a few die-hard people.
	And this is a big thing: our previous poll, we lumped in airstrikes to troops on the ground.
	In this poll, we separated them.
	And yeah, there is some support for airstrikes, but troops on the ground, no.
	I interpret that as meaning excessive airstrikes that could lead to troops on the ground, off the table.
	And there's also would be likely to be widespread resistance to a draft.
	So along with making themselves ineligible, there is also a very strong increase in people who said that they would be out protesting.
	So that gets, people do pay attention to that.
	Protests do matter.
	People say they don't.
	They do.
	And only a slim minority sees foreign intervention as generally being a net positive for the American people.
	So we're off that idea that we somehow...
	People talked about bombing the Arabs and taking oil.
	We never got any oil.
	So all we did was that we committed, we made fools of ourselves.
	We lost our moral high ground.
	A bunch of people died and we didn't even get the oil.
	So I think we're done with the global warming.
	It's going to be the same thing as on this cash and carry for the military hardware going to Ukraine and to Israel.
	That'll never happen.
	Well, in any event, any other takeaways from this, David, before we run out of time?
	Because I think this is key, very key.
	One quick, more respondents see foreign intervention as generally being a net negative rather than a net positive for foreign people.
	So if we're not getting anything from it and foreign peoples aren't getting anything from it, which they aren't, they just get problems and Drag Queen Story Hour and trans operism in Ecuador or wherever.
	And drama, why are we doing it?
	It doesn't even benefit, it doesn't benefit people overseas.
	It doesn't benefit us.
	We should just, in my opinion, focus on Fortress America and disentangle ourselves, which is what George Washington wanted us to do, have a return to the Monroe Doctrine.
	There's a lot of resources in Latin America.
	There's a lot of drama down there we should take care of and basically button up.
	And if we can't have, we should never have been the world policeman, but we could definitely have our own little slice of the world, our own little region where we're the top guys.
	Or isn't it a coincidence that we changed when the second great wave of immigration happened in 1890 and Jews started to come over in large numbers?
	In any event, I mean, we know that, and I'm sure some people are saying, well, public opinion, even though it's on our side and the Homeland Institute has just proven that again, even though it's on our side, that's never stopped them before from just bulldogging us and getting what they want anyway.
	We've seen that happen.
	But why do you believe that things may have changed or things may be different for them moving forward in this new day and age and new awareness of the American population?
	Right, so it's metapolitical.
	Politics is downstream from culture.
	And yes, the great replacement is not popular, but it's greatly popular amongst Democrats.
	But if you look at Zionism, it is dying out.
	I would like to see these numbers for immigration translate over.
	And this is bipartisan at some point.
	And we get nothing from it.
	And at some point, I think the biggest issue here is that all the lies eventually they caught up due to the internet.
	And that's big because it undermines legitimacy.
	And every regime needs legitimacy to survive.
	People say, well, they don't need it.
	They don't need it until they do need it.
	And we saw this.
	The Soviet Union was less evil and retarded than the deep state, and they collapsed.
	So don't tell me legitimacy doesn't matter when the social economy, no free speech, no free speech, controlled press, Iron Curtain, that didn't last.
	Well, this won't last either.
	David, I cannot think of a better way to end this hour than with that statement.
	David Zuddy of the Homeland Institute, thank you again for being back with us and helping us sort through the findings of your most recent poll on this all-important topic, an organization worth supporting.
	David, can't wait to talk to you again and see you later this fall in person.
	And thanks as always for being with us.
	And Thomas Rousseau is next up, ladies and gentlemen.
	David Zuddy, everybody give him a big round of applause.
	We'll be right back.
	It was great.

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