July 13, 2025 - The Political Cesspool - James Edwards
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You're listening to the Liberty News Radio Network, and this is the Political Cesspool.
The Political Cesspool, known across the South and worldwide as the South's foremost populist conservative radio program.
And here to guide you through the murky waters of the Political Cesspool is your host, James Edwards.
My producer just told me I'm up, so I guess that means I need to start talking, but we're having way too much fun here.
Thank God we're not on video because not for that reason.
No, we're all close.
Well, we were talking about that today, right, Remy?
I mean, I was talking to you about, you know, so I got friends in Canada who would send me pictures from their thermostat.
It's like negative 20 degrees Fahrenheit.
Remy said he looked at the weather report and it said it's supposed to be 20 degrees in Memphis this week.
I was like, what?
But I forgot Celsius, you know.
But negative 20 Fahrenheit.
And anyway, but we talked about how you can always put on enough layers to stay warm.
You can never take off enough to stay cool down here in this subtropical jungle.
I always tell people that I'm, as a true southerner, I think that heat can be uncomfortable, but cold is life-threatening.
You can die of a heat stroke and just go outside and run around all day and see what happens.
Okay.
Well, just go outside and walk to the mailbox.
It can definitely be the cold.
It can be the heat.
See, I'm with Remy on that.
Anyway, let's talk about a couple of things.
All right, so here's what happened, folks.
What we were talking about right before we came back.
So nothing on this show is scripted.
We have things we know we want to talk about.
Keith and I will brainstorm and we'll draw up an outline for most standard shows and we'll know what guests are coming on, what the general topic will be, what we're going to talk about.
We'll have a few notes to help guide us.
But when we have a guest like Remy in the studio with us, I don't do any of that.
I mean, I said, you know, we sort of brainstormed at the barbecue restaurant tonight.
And I said, let's do the first hour on your day in Memphis.
One story I want to cover is groke.
And that was pretty much all we had.
And that's already filled two hours.
Now, for this one, I said, I have nothing for the third hour.
So we started just spitballing in the last break, and we've already got a couple of good things.
So here's one of them.
Here's one of them.
And that is this just, again, goes to show, gentlemen, how far things are turning, how far things are moving on our side, on the right, if you will.
And this is in our direction, correct, Keith.
So Remy, this is Tucker Carlson, the biggest mainstream journalist on our side in the United States.
I mean, his Fox News show was by far the most popular in all of cable news.
Just this week, he was speaking at Turning Points USA.
Now, this was a few years ago under Charlie Kirk's direction, sort of a mealy-mouthed civic nationalist, anti-white, basically.
It was all white, but you know what I mean.
I mean, you know, they would never do anything that would cause them to be called racist.
It was white people that dare not name their own names.
That's right.
That has all changed.
I mean, Charlie Kirk is saying everything that we say on this radio program now.
That is how far things have moved.
But this is really interesting.
Tucker Carlson was at the Turning Points USA conference a couple of days ago, since our last show.
Just, yeah, a couple of days ago.
And Tucker Carlson says Epstein was, quote, working on behalf of Israel and Israel was committing crimes on American soil.
And then it goes on.
Someone asked Tucker Carlson at this Turning Point USA event, which Intel agency did Epstein work for.
The answer was Mossad.
That could be why everything is getting buried.
Charlie Kirk then polled the audience.
How many of you agree?
50% raised their hand.
When you've lost Turning Points USA, you've truly lost.
People are now wide awake, or if you don't prefer to look at it that way, they have opinions now, even amongst the rank and file of MAGA conservatism that would have been not welcome on any platform but this 10, 20 years ago.
The unspeakable has become speakable, and Mossad is on everybody's radar now.
They're on their radar for JFK.
They're on their radar for RFK.
They're on their radar for Epstein.
Well, and then again, you know, the left is the ones that are the ones getting arrested mostly.
You know, it's just crazy.
A lot of Jewish students are the ones getting most persecuted on these Ivy League campuses for doing these things.
Isn't that delicious irony?
Listen, it is ironic.
Yeah, the whole of the Ivy League has been trying to benefit Jews at the expense of white Gentiles for the past 70 years.
And now, now the Ivy League is being turned on by the very people they meant to benefit.
Well, here's the thing, though.
The thing is, Remy, at Turning Points USA, which is a Trump adjacent, I mean, Charlie Kirk travels with Trump all over the place.
This is the kind of content, this is the kind of conversations, these are the kind of majority opinions that you're getting from that crowd now.
Okay, so Brad Griffin at Occidental Dissent writes, the Jewish question is now being openly aired at Turning Points USA.
Those B-2 bombers, which bombed Iran and flew over the White House, may have set back Iran's nuclear program a few years in what was essentially a photo op for Trump, but they dropped the real bunker busters on the taboo of this question and of Israel's negative influence on American politics.
As with the summer of Floyd, he's talking about the summer of 2020.
It is easy to get blackpilled and write off engaging in mainstream politics because all politicians, including Trump, seem to be controlled opposition.
But experience has shown that it is in times like this when we take our greatest steps forward.
Sure, we lost a lot of statutes during the George Floyd mania, but the bad look of that and the memory of that changed our politics entirely.
The same thing is happening now, Brad Griffin writes, with Trump bombing Iran for the sake of Israel and the Republican Jewish coalition and covering up the truth about Jeffrey Epstein to protect Israel.
Everyone sees this and what has been seen cannot be unseen.
The dam is bursting on the populist right.
Again, Charlie Kirk five years ago was, yeah, I mean, mealy-mouthed, he was basically a neocon, anti-white.
Now he is speaking just like us and his audience has turned this drastically.
I mean, what do you make of that just as a political observer?
Well, coming from the outside, what I do see is that from the war in Iraq and the possibility of a war in Iran a few weeks ago, the power of the neocons has decreased.
Like Donald Trump, and if one person could have raised patriotism and raised troops and raised them around, it was Donald Trump.
That if the war with Iran was such an unpopular feature a few weeks ago, like if you think back in 2003 when the war in Iraq happened, the war in Iraq was popular in the United States, but it is no longer popular to support Israel.
I think the neocons and the Zionists have lost a lot of power.
They do have a lot of powers on the media, on the institutions, on what Donald Trump used to call the deep state, but they no longer have that influence on population.
The population doesn't buy those lies anymore.
When Donald Trump and the super Zionists were talking about Iran having the nuclear bomb and everything, nobody bought it because they knew it was the same who used to say that Iraq had Iraq at weapon of mass destruction.
So I think we are changing paradigm.
And I think this is what is really important right now.
Now, I think also what happened in Israel in the Geza strip may have been an awakener for a lot of people.
Seeing a genocide like right in front of your eyes, live on television, I think it may have been a trigger for many people.
That was one of the things we've asked because, of course, to our chagrin, this was the singular issue that dominated our programming in June was the foreign policy misadventures, as I like to put it, of the United States collaboration in Israel's war in Iran, Iran, Israel, the bombings, all of that dominated our programming in June.
But I asked people, I asked all of the learned guests who appeared on our program during last month's coverage of this issue, is this, you know, if you look at it a certain way, could you see this being a last gasp of the Zionist state in some terms?
And maybe.
I mean, they are still by far, listen, even them at a weakened state, they are still by far the most organized, the most powerful lobby in Washington.
They are the most lavishly well-funded.
They are still all of that.
But public opinion is turning and people are talking about them in ways that were unimaginable when we first went to the beginning.
Let's be positive for the next decade and come back in 10 years from now.
Let's not forget that in the last two years, while they basically almost annihilated the Gaza strip, and after that, they got in the south of Lebanon.
It also took Syria down and it also bombed Iran.
So I don't think it's their last gasp, but right now, like their popularity is not.
But you could at least see a future because of public opinion and because of the younger generations sort of turning and shifting.
Hold on, Keith, we got the music playing.
That this could be right back.
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Can a nation conceived in liberty carry its head high if it denies protection to the youngest and most vulnerable of its citizens?
Can a country founded on God-given rights continue to thrive without understanding that life is a precious gift from our Creator?
As a physician, I have looked into the eyes of one-pound babies.
I have cradled their small bodies in the palm of one hand.
I defy those who are careless, who would disregard life and look at these tiny little miracles and say, we're not going to protect that.
But I believe there will come a time when we are all judged on whether or not we took a stand in defense of all life from the moment of conception until our last natural breath.
One thing I promise you, I will always take a stand for life.
And challenged me, then there to attract.
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But I'll go you one better if you've got the nerve.
Let's face all the way to dead man's dead man's birth.
Let's look at school.
Deadman's birth.
Dead man's dead man's birth.
Won't come back from dead man's birth.
Well, that's certainly the song that Israel, Iran, Ukraine is all singing to each other.
Top five hit in 1963, I believe.
Keith, were we better off in 63 or today?
Definitely we were better off in 63.
But, but, but do you see some hope?
This is what we were talking about during before we went from the last event.
It's very clear if we are going to have hope, and the hope we need to have is to understand where the path to redemption lies, and it is in going back to 1963.
People don't want to hear that, particularly from a boomer.
But this is a problem.
This is Keith's segment to defend the boomer.
Listen, let me be clear on this.
I love boomers.
My dad's a boomer.
You know, I love my dad.
I love you.
All my friends are boomers, except for Remy.
I love boomers.
I'm just saying the boomers didn't do anything.
You know, they didn't hold the line.
My generation didn't hold the line.
If the line is going to be pushed back, it's going to be by these younger people.
And I see some hope there because they are really woke.
They are really based on the people.
We need all that.
They're awoken on Israel.
But the person that is the key to us being able to make the progress we have is guess what?
Donald Trump.
And guess what he is?
A boomer.
Well, I mean, he's been a—I'll say what I feel about Trump.
I voted for him three times.
I've always defended him.
A lot of people have opposed him in our ranks.
And anytime he does something that they don't like, they just fall all over themselves.
That's suicide.
But there are some people that do that.
But what I think that is interesting about Trump is that he has advanced our issues, whether knowingly or inadvertently.
I have said this consistently for years.
Go back to my Amerin speech in 2023.
Donald Trump has made it safe to talk about these issues.
And not only that, he has made mass deportations a winning issue.
The majority of the country wants this, whether he really wants it or not.
That is a winning issue now for politicians.
Donald Trump made it so, and only Donald Trump could have made it so.
And so, whatever he is or whatever he isn't, he has advanced our cause.
No doubt about the power shop.
And let me tell you this, he let the genie out of the bottle.
Let's get Remy's take.
Canadians take on Trump.
Good, bad, ugly, indifferent.
Well, you know, I need to go back home in a few days from now.
So I've got to be careful what I say about Donald Trump.
Well, at least you got in.
Now, see, you know, Nick Griffin, Paul Fromm, they can't even get in.
Don't give him ideas.
They're not that original of the border.
They almost got to take you back.
But at least you got in.
They're going to come and get me.
But that being said, what I see is not like Donald Trump.
What I see is a wave of populism that we can see in Italy with Giorgio Miloni, that we can see in various European nations with populist parties that are actually promising to stop immigration, mass immigration, some that are actually proposing to start remigration, which is like mass deportation.
Donald Trump is part of that phenomenon.
What I want to see, though, is not words, but it's like deeds, enacted.
Yeah, right.
Because Georgia Miloney, when you listen to her speeches, I mean, you and me totally agree with what she says.
But on the other hand, she has not really decreased mass immigration.
That again, Nick Griffin was sounding the alarm about her right when she was on her ascension track.
And he just said, listen, he said, the good news is she's saying all the things we want someone to say.
She's not going to do it.
But the key is the people are voting for what's right.
And then we just got to make sure that we eventually, one day, somebody who actually means it steps up to the point.
Yeah.
And actually, we have won the metapolitical battle.
This is the word.
It's a metapolitical battle.
We have won it.
But now the thing is, politicians are still playing with us.
They're still not listening to the will of the people.
They're pinging on our leg and telling us it's right.
I tell you what it is.
But the fact that they have to play with us or urinate on us at all.
It shows that they have to cater to it.
And again, we could debate all day what Trump is, what he isn't, to what extent the enemies have their hooks in him, and to what extent he is truly a civic nationalist that has some good instincts on our issues.
Have your debates all day.
I do believe he has moved us forward.
Well, the final word on this question is once again given to us by Elvis Presley the King, who said, too much conversation, not enough action.
All right.
But you can have action if you begin the conversation.
And at least we're having the conversation now on a national level.
That was not going on 10 years ago when Trump first came on the scene.
And James, you need to agree.
This is incredible.
Like media, alternatives, media like us, who have a very, very limited audience when we think about it, when we think nationwide.
Right.
And our ideas are actually against mass media, but our ideas are gaining ground everywhere despite the mass media.
Despite well, that's the thing about it, though, Remy.
I mean, if you look at any of us as individuals, and I'm proud of, you know, our portfolio of success here, but I mean, we are a collective, our collective, all of us, all of us pulling together, me and you and all the guests we have on this radio program and all of us together.
It's like, you know, the little fish who pull in the same direction and break through the net, whereas one fish could never do it.
I think our collective has been able to break through and have our issues adopted by people who could take it to the next level.
I think that's what we're seeing here.
I think that's been a big part of it.
We'll let Remy.
Remy, very quickly, Remy, respond to that.
Well, it is one of the things, but reality is also, you know, reality is caught up with them.
They have lied to us so many times.
Like, oh, this is going to be a multicultural utopia.
Well, it wasn't.
And people do realize it.
So when the media tell, like, the media continue telling them, hammering them, oh, multiculturalism is a utopia.
It's so great.
Like, everybody's so happy about it.
Well, people do realize that what they live on their daily basis has nothing to do with like the utopia they're being sold.
So that has a lot to do with it as well.
Of course, the fact that we're all working in the same direction clearly helps.
And we need to continue rowing and rowing and rowing.
But reality is on our side.
And this is our major factor.
All right.
Quick comment on that, Keith, and we're going to have a little more fun with Remy.
There's something I want to bring up.
Okay.
Well, this is it.
Trump has taken us this far.
And, you know, like the Pony Express, maybe it's time for a new writer.
But do you believe, Keith, as I said, that our collective here in the United States, all of the people we feature on this program, all of the different institutions and installations and publications and all of it had an impact on the Trump campaign.
I mean, you know, they certainly had an when the Trump campaign was soliciting Donald Trump's junior appearance on this program, I think that they were paying attention.
And so I pay attention and I think we have an influence.
But, you know, who is the new Donald Trump?
Possibly Grok.
That was unexpected.
But that's why.
Without the filters, of course.
All right.
All right.
I don't know if we're going to get that UFC fight in the White House with Grok.
But all right, Remy, let's just say this.
You're looking at some of the books that we have on display here in our studio.
And during one of the breaks, you went over and perused.
And I said, well, you know, that is not my entire catalog of books.
We've got about, I don't know, 30 books over there.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
But these are the signed copies of these books that I like.
And so you were browsing through it, and you made a couple of interesting observations.
But what titles stuck out to you, Remy?
Well, first of all, I realize how cheap I am not to have brought you any of my books.
The fact that you can't read them because they're in French is not a good excuse.
Now, the first one that struck me.
Before you tell me what book, I had a t-shirt.
The fact that I can't read it is no excuse.
I had a t-shirt that I used to wear out in public, no less, when I was in my early 20s.
It had a picture of George Wallace with a Confederate flag behind him.
And the T-shirt read, Death is No Excuse, Wallace, the President.
Anyway, the books.
I think Democrats used it in your frauds.
Yeah, I use it every year, actually.
Oh, yeah, that being said, the first one that struck me is Mr. from Alex Kurdidick.
Basically, because I've been trying to get that book since when Jared Taylor came to Montreal, he came with a friend, a French friend, who was telling me about that book.
And I've been wanting to buy that book since then, but now it's been sold for $1,174 Canadian dollars.
That's more expensive than American dollars, isn't it?
No, I saw it.
I used it.
I thought I used it.
Wish he was, but it's not.
So this is interesting.
So, Alex Kurtig, I got to tell you a story about Alex.
So, he wrote this dystopian novel, it's fiction, but it's called Mr. and it is as thick as the Bible.
And I am actually in it as the governor of Tennessee in this work of fiction.
Obviously, it would have to be.
But he wrote me in as the governor of Tennessee in this book, and he gifted it to me at an NPI conference that we both were speaking at many years ago in Washington, D.C.
And I have a vivid, vivid memory of me and Alex Kurtig and another fellow traveler when we had some downtime in Washington.
We all went and toured the Holocaust Museum together and went through the whole thing.
But I got this book on that particular trip, and it is autographed.
I did not know it was worth $1,000.
Believe me, I could pay my mortgage next month.
But no, listen, I won't give that one up.
Alex, it's great, and the music is playing.
But there's a lot of interesting titles there on that shelf.
But yeah, I really appreciate Alex.
Haven't heard from him in a long time, but it is an interesting book.
Well, the music playing will be right.
I need to get Al O'Pill on that.
That's new.
We know them.
We'll be right back.
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I was walking on the street, my heart opened to the unknown.
I wanted to say hello to anyone.
Anyone who was you, I told you anything.
It was enough to talk to you to your privy.
In the East Coast.
Au chans élisé.
Au soré ce la pri.
Ami diu, ami ni.
Ili dusquevo lé au chans élisé.
As if Remy Tremblay sang it himself.
So we've been playing some great music tonight as we want to do here on TPC.
Remy, tell us what that song was, why you selected it, the title, the meaning.
Okay, basically, it's not a French Canadian song.
It is a French song from France, like we sing Quebec.
Au Chans Élyse is a song about love, about spring, and about, you know, that joie de vive, that happiness of life that Southerners share with us.
So after all those like Beach Boy songs, those summer songs, I thought the flirty song was the best, the most appropriate song for the show tonight.
Well, I appreciate you bringing that to our attention.
You have further cultured us tonight.
You even gave an answer in the French language a moment ago in the previous hour.
And then that music that seals the deal.
But we have a surprise for Remy tonight.
And we're going to let that surprise introduce himself and say hello right now.
It'll be a man well familiar to Remy.
My friend, say hello.
Oh, I'm Paul Fromm from the great no longer so white North.
I've known Remy for many years.
Hello, Remy Moneteu.
Hey, Paul, this is great talking to you.
It's funny that we talk to each other like, well, now I'm in Memphis.
But I'm very happy to talk to you.
Well, Paul, you know, you're in the land of the mostly free.
As you and I both know, Canada's not very free.
Relatively speaking, my friends, relatively speaking.
But yes, indeed, more so than you, and you more so than Europe.
But Paul, Remy's down here with us tonight.
You have been down here with us so many times when you could still travel to the United States.
And Keith and I were talking earlier today about how many good memories we've had with you, both on the air and in person.
And of course, you have been on every single installment of our March Around the World.
Paul, I mean, you're one of our most featured guests going back to the inception of the program.
But since we started the March Around the World series, you're always on it.
Remy's on it most years, and you're on it throughout the year as well.
But I just thought, hey, if Remy is here tonight, let's pair him up with the other Canadian heavyweight, and let's just see what happens.
So, Paul, what's going on in Canada?
What do you want to talk about?
I said, you know, come up with an issue or two that you want to throw at Remy.
I'm just going to turn it over to you, my Canadian brothers.
Well, there are a number of issues, but one that is absolutely crucial for our survival is immigration, or rather, stopping it.
We're being invaded.
We're being replaced.
This is by government policy, not just the Trudeau liberals from now the Mark Carney liberals, but the conservatives when they were in power ever since, well, certainly since the 1980s.
And, of course, what's left of the socialists, the New Democratic Party.
They're all agreed on massive third world immigration.
And what that means, that's a nice way to put it, the more honest way to put it, is the replacement of the European founding separate people of this country.
That's the way I put it.
And I'm sure Remy would probably put it.
They quebe quiet, the old stock Quebecer.
We are being replaced, and that must be stopped.
There's growing realization that mass immigration has led to considerable unemployment, to wage suppression, to impossible, et cetera, et cetera.
But that's good.
I mean, there's growing realization and even public discussion that there wasn't even a couple of years ago.
But there is very little political leadership.
The only leadership that's at all hopeful is the small populist People's Party of Canada led by a fellow Quebecer, Maxime Bernier.
He wants a moratorium.
I mean, it's got to be a moratorium.
We've got to stop the invasion.
Well, you know, Paul, I'm very happy you raised those issues because I do agree with you that immigration is the number one issue facing like European Canadians.
Now, that being said, the other issue that you're bringing up, which is very important, is the fact that the Liberal Party and Conservative parties do agree on immigration policies.
And this is something that this is like a mental disconnect that I have seen in the last elections.
Many people said, oh, I'm not going to vote for Johnson Trudeau or Mark Carney because they are for mass immigration.
Instead, I'm going to vote for Poiriev.
I'm like, yeah, but basically, he has the same numbers.
He wants to bring in as many immigrants as Chudeau Carney.
It's like, I don't know, I'm sure he's going to bring in less.
And this is like false opposition between liberals and conservatives in Canada.
And I'm very happy that you bring up that issue.
Yes, you know, I think Paulier would bring in fewer, but it's not 10,000 or 20,000 fewer that we need.
We need to stop it to stop the invasion.
And it will take, you know, I think we could kick ideas around, but it would take, I would think, a decade or maybe more to get control of what we have.
A lot of them would have to be encouraged to remigrate or go home.
That's hardly even being discussed even in patriotic circles here.
It's being discussed in Europe, but not here.
But the invasion has to stop or else.
And the oral analysis said by the middle of the century, by 2050, the European founding Southern people of Canada will be a minority.
That's the stark reality.
You're very generous because in Quebec, we had that in, I know in the rest of Canada, you're not very strong on ethnic statistics, but in Eastern Canada, in Quebec, we got a demographer who made projection in 2042 ethnic Quebecers that Quebec Court Souche will be a minority on our own soil.
I mean, that's absolutely scandalous.
Like the people in Quebec fought against English domination ever since the conquest, I guess it's what, 1783 or so.
Okay.
But within 50 years, they don't have to worry about the English anymore.
They'll have to worry about people who do not share their culture, their background, or their race.
They will be swept aside.
And we, of course, will face exactly the same fate in English Canada.
And there's been relatively little opposition in Quebec and much less opposition even in English Canada.
Much of our elite, or almost all of it, and the press, with very, very few exceptions, are just totally unprepared to defend us.
Paul, okay, so with all that going on and all that being understood, where is everybody in Canada?
Because I was asking Remy earlier.
I mean, of course, you are a lion.
You are on the street with a bullhorn.
You are an organizer par excellence.
You are Paul Frederick Fromm.
You are Frederick the Great, actually, in the modern times.
And so I asked Remy, I said, Remy, in addition to yourself, who are the people out there doing good work on a high level in Canada?
And he said, well, you know, of course, Paul Fromm and Ricardo Duchesne and Drew Fraser.
I talked about Drew Fraser, who has, you know, had been in Australia for so many years, I can't even remember.
But if you count him, and he said, that's about it, you know, on a high level.
He said, you know, the average lifespan for an activist in Canada is about three years.
And the people that have been doing it at a high level for a sustainable number of years, it's just, you know, it's single digits.
Is that the case, Paul?
I mean, is there anybody else that you'd like to recommend from Canada that's out there doing the work?
Well, maybe not by name, but there are young people.
And there I'm drawing the line at 40.
So people under 40 in various parts of Canada who make regular protests.
They're hit and run protests.
And they'll have a big banner like mass deportation.
Now, they'll hit them all, hit an overpass and put themselves up on the internet and then move on.
And they're getting a lot of public.
They're creating awareness.
Hold on right there.
Yes, I know.
There are innumerable activists who are with us in spirit and out there doing what they can sort of anonymously.
But the people that are out there doing sustainable work in Canada, well, we know this.
And we'll be right back with two of them.
So stay tuned for the final session.
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Welcome back, everybody.
Our last segment this broadcast.
I would say this hour, but this broadcast.
What a special broadcast it's been.
All right.
Listen, we love shows like this.
Keith, do we love shows like this?
Let them know if we do if we don't.
We love them.
Remy Tremblay in with us for the entire three-hour live broadcast.
Then a surprise guest still with us now, Paul Fromm.
For the last half hour, we're going to continue this conversation with Paul here right now.
But Keith, before we do, I just want to give you the opportunity.
Oh, listen to this.
I'm looking at this video we're playing right now.
Imagine going to the, my goodness, to this concert.
All at once, Jay and the Americans, Jan and Dean, the four tops, the Ronettes, the Skyliners, all in one show.
I tell you what, at the Palladium.
You've died and gone to heaven, game.
There's a trip down memory lane.
Thank you, Paul.
Yes, indeed.
Hey, and a trip down memory lane would be going to the Shonies in Memphis, Tennessee with Paul Fromm back when the Shonies was still open and when Paul was still allowed to travel.
I tell you what, I was spellbound.
He could sell an ice box to an Eskimo.
He sold me books.
I still hadn't read all of them yet.
Hey, listen, who's one of our favorite guests of all time?
Keith Alexander, who's one of our favorite guests of all time?
It has to be Paul.
Yeah, absolutely.
Paul is the man from Autoplane.
He's the guy in charge.
Well, he's great.
And Paul, thank you for your many years of service and dedication to our people.
Thank you for all you've done, for your lifelong friendship to me.
I mean, well, I say lifelong.
I mean, my entire adult life.
I've known you since I was practically a teenager.
Now, you keep that one, Keith.
I'm going to toss this one to Remy.
But I'm going to toss it back to you, gentlemen.
And so what's happening here is we have two headsets and two mics in the studio.
It's kind of like a tag team wrestling match.
We have three people here.
Now, it didn't matter before Paul came on the line.
We didn't need the headsets because it was just us.
But I'm going to seed my headset and my mic back to Keith for this final segment and Remy and Paul.
And Remy, there was something you wanted to say, I think, to kick off this conversation.
Gentlemen, the floor is yours for the last seven or eight minutes we have available.
Let's give Paul the line share of the floor.
But Remy, we'll give it to you to set the stage.
Well, yes.
You'll hear it first time on TPC.
But Paul, you're working on your memoirs, aren't you?
Yeah, I am.
And it's no secret.
I'm working on the first group.
I helped found it and belonged to it.
It was the anti-communist, young, fairly militant Edmund Burke Society.
And it's a long time ago.
It was a very interesting history.
And my collaborator and I have been working on this for over a year.
And I gathered a lot of good material.
And I've gathered, by the by, some material I'm going to try to send you about other projects you're looking at that might be pretty good, I hope.
Well, actually, you're one of the first Canadian leaders to write memoirs, which makes it very complicated for people interested in history to write down serious history books.
So first of all, thank you for writing your memoirs.
And you're only going to talk about your Edmund Burek Society period?
Well, that's to begin with.
I mean, you've got to start somewhere.
But this is actually going to be, I think, quite a unique history.
And I'm probably one of the very few people who could write it.
For one thing, I've got the records.
And number two, I know I was there.
But I will go beyond that.
I'm hoping this is an ongoing project.
And I think there's some good material there.
And it brings back a lot of memories of the late 60s and 70s.
We did a lot of work with American groups like Reverend Carl McIntyre's group in favor of the war in Vietnam, the John Burt Society, a breakthrough in Detroit.
When I say in favor of the war in Vietnam, I'm in favor of winning the war, not what ended up being done, which is a no-win war, which is probably what was intended from the beginning.
I have a lot of sympathy for those who oppose the war, people like Senator Eugene McCarthy.
I think it was wise because it was clear the American government was not intent on winning the war.
But there'll be a lot of interesting things in there, I hope.
Oh, I am sure.
And one of the things that our movement as a whole in general, like call it movement, call it cause, like call it whatever, we've been very bad in writing our own history.
We have relied on history teachers, history professors from left-wing universities to write down our history.
So it is actually important that we leave a testimony.
And I remember I wrote several books about the right-wing history in Canada.
And I think in French language, it was the first one to write it from nationalist perspective.
Otherwise, it's our enemies who write books about us, which is very sad because they never get narratives right.
Well, that's absolutely right.
And I have for years pressed older leaders, you know, write your life story.
And there was a very interesting man.
You recognize the name, John Ross Taylor, who passed by.
I've talked to him.
I've talked to him.
I've talked to him a few times.
I did record interviews with him.
Well, that's more than anybody else did.
I encouraged him to write his memoirs.
I even got a girl who would, he would speak and she transcribed, but nothing ever came of it.
And it was the same with other people like Ron Gossick, who was a fantastic man, did an awful lot of good.
But not long before his death, he said, no, I've got to write another pamphlet on the Constitution.
And I felt, you know, frankly, it's not very important.
You know things and you've known people that nobody else has.
And I've been pestering certain Americans like Sam Dixon and others to do the same thing.
I mean, these people have had fantastic histories.
There were some amazing patriots in French Canada, Labé Groux, for instance, and Adrienne Arcane.
I don't know if there was a favorable or an honest biography of either of them, but there should be.
Well, I did write a biography of Adrienne Arcan a few years ago.
And as for Lionel Groud, there has been one by a mainstream historian, which is very surprising.
And was it relatively fair?
It was, actually, yeah, because otherwise, we had like several biographies of Lionel Groux in Adrienne Arcane, but there was one that was from an Ontario professor, Stéphane Courtois, I think, if I remember well, who made a very, very fair biography of Lionel Group.
And as for Adrienne Arcan, I made one because there was none.
Oh, what you say about Ron Gostick in about John Ross Hayler, it's incredibly true.
I mean, those people have lived, they have lived a life of struggle and selflessness.
And well, whatever traces are left are hidden in a box somewhere, and we're never going to find it.
So what we do have is the traces left by their enemies, like the ADL and the thing that kept files on them.
In the case of John Ross Taylor, all his papers, he died in Alberta.
All his papers were seized.
The Canadian Security Intelligence Service, Canada's Snoops, came there a couple of days after he died and took everything.
And the person at whose place he'd been staying didn't have the wherewithal mentally or the ability to call a lawyer or whatever.
So a lot of stuff he had that's priceless going back to the 30s, all gone, or maybe in some vault in Ottawa.
And it's the same thing, for instance, in the United States with Ernst Sundal.
Sundal left all sorts of papers.
And, well, without telling tales out of school, his wife, Ingrid, left everything to her son, who is certainly not in the movement and won't talk to anybody.
My guess is either the ADL or the FBI have them or there may be in a big landfill.
But, you know, I think it's an important challenge.
And I'm so glad you're writing some of these histories because nobody else is doing it in Canada.
Well, I didn't learn in Wyoming.
Like, in France, they have that institute where they gather all the documents.
And they try to get the Institut Émen L'Artie, which is pretty much a nationalist institute gathering archives, nationalist archives.
Well, it took us to the last 30 minutes of the show.
Everything here was well done and not a wasted minute.
We had a lot of fun, but we really got serious here at the end, as you might expect when we pair people like Remy Tremblay and Paul Fromm together.
But we needed a break from the norm.
We needed a break earlier tonight from just to have a good time and show people, hey, we enjoy each other's company.
We've enjoyed your company, Remy, today, this weekend, tonight on the program.
Paul, always great to have you.
Thank you for being a good sport coming on tonight to surprise Remy with your presence.
And I really enjoyed the exchange that flowed from that.
For Paul Fromm, Remy Tremblay, Keith Alexander, I'm James Edwards.