June 1, 2025 - The Political Cesspool - James Edwards
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You're listening to the Liberty News Radio Network, and this is the Political Cesspool.
The Political Cesspool, known across the South and worldwide as the South's foremost populist conservative radio program.
And here to guide you through the murky waters of the Political Cesspool is your host, James Edwards.
From one great commentator to the next, we now are rejoined for the first time this year by Jose Niño, a great friend of ours here at the program.
And I would give Jose a more comprehensive introduction, except for the fact that he has spread to so many places now, I don't know where to plug first.
He has more than one broadcast, more than one publication that he writes for.
Jose, where do we begin?
Well, to sum it up, I'm now keep it under 30 minutes.
Yeah, I could go on for hours, but I'm firmly in this hard right space now.
I still have my podcast, El Nino Speaks, on Substack, where I interview a range of guests from foreign policy to immigration, but now I'm also the host of the Barnes Review History Hour, and there I am.
Yes.
And I think you are.
We're both on the editorial board on that.
And I am grateful for you guys putting me in touch with American Free Press because that's what eventually got me that position there.
I contribute both to AFP and the Barnes Review in terms of long-form articles and in my podcast hosting there.
I'll tell you what, we opened the doors for you.
You're probably up to making minimum wage now.
But listen.
Jose, I can remember sitting with a member of the editorial staff at American Free Press at a meeting in Alabama.
Jared Taylor was speaking there.
I was speaking there.
This was a couple of years ago, two or three years ago.
And they mentioned needing some extra hands on deck.
And I recommended you.
And then you are so good at breaking down an issue.
I mean, you are probably, as far as commentators, print commentators, you're the best.
And what you have done with AFP and the Barnes Review and other publications as well is just phenomenal.
And I salute you for all of your successes and all the different places now you're contributing to.
It's just wonderful.
And so as we continue this conversation now, I would ask you, as I did our previous guest in the second hour, that your last appearance was the first week of November.
All right.
So our last guest, his first appearance was the first week of the new year of 2025.
And we were asking him his take on things as they have evolved since the first week of the year through today.
You were last on the last week before the election itself.
Our final conversation before the votes are counted.
So Jose, let's just pick up right there.
How have you observed and how would you articulate this?
Are you enthused or disappointed?
This evolution between then and now I'm generally kind of like focused on stuff that kind of goes beyond like the everyday politics because I've come to grips with the reality.
There isn't much of a political solution to conventional political solution to the problems we have.
Yeah, with respect to the second Trump administration, the only positive I see is that there really aren't any border crossings happening.
Like they just dropped to precipitously low levels, but there's not much in terms of mass deportations.
Conflicts rage on in Gaza, Ukraine, and there is potentially the chance of a conflict erupting in Iran as well.
And the Trump administration, like domestically, seems to be the only things that they're able to get done, both legislatively and executive action, appear to be stuff that serves the Jewish community.
It's become pretty farcical.
And nowadays, I'm mostly focused on not just historical topics, but more on topics concerning Jewish influence and the alarming trend I'm seeing now across the populist right from the U.S. all the way to Europe,
where certain elements of organized Jewry are beginning to burrow themselves into these movements and try to create like a right-wing movement that is safe for Zionism worldwide, which I believe is a complete distortion and another way of the organized Jewish community to establish Jewish supremacy.
And things have gotten interesting too, because as I've written about in the Occidental Observer, some of the traditional alliances that the Judeo-left has forged, especially with the black community, seem to be breaking down.
But now they're going for new golems, which include certain whites.
And now, as I also highlighted in the Occidental Observer, the growing community of Hindus and people from India that are migrating to the U.S., that's become a new diaspora that Jews are tapping into to form their new coalitions as the trying to replace us at the top of the food chain rather than at the bottom as well.
But, you know, I'm kind of of two minds on this stuff.
You know, for example, the situation with Harvard and free speech.
You know, I really wish that Trump had gone after Harvard based on their indignities done to the white Christian Gentiles over the past 100 years.
But that wasn't in the cards.
But on the other hand, you know, he's going after them for supposed anti-Semitism.
But quite frankly, I look at it philosophically, the enemy of my enemy is my friend.
If he wants to take out Harvard, if he wants to make Harvard history, I'm all for it.
However, he does it.
And I know that you're more ideologically pure on that, that, you know, you want to protect free speech rights.
But quite frankly, that bunch of rotters, I don't care about that.
Well, let's let Jose answer for himself.
Your take on that, Jose.
I generally think that if Harvard were somehow destroyed, I really wouldn't care that much.
But at the same time, what I think is going to happen is that they're going to purge out eventually, like the settlement's going to end up having like purge out all the so-called anti-Semitism, but they're going to still maintain a lot of like trappings of DEI.
Really, I would argue it's like the civil rights regime at these institutions.
I think what we look at in the U.S. is that whites are going to get at best scraps from the regime, but Jewish interests will get like at least 80% of their demands.
And what I think is going to end up happening, especially in Trump's second term, is that you're going to see minority and immigration policies that favor migrants that are more like pro-Zionist or that are not going to rock the boat against Israel and organize Jewry.
But the country will still continue to have its demographics gradually annihilated.
Yeah, there are some instances where it does seem like we might be getting wins, but I always argue that there's always going to be like a poison pill attached to some of the stuff that Trump does.
And the other part about that, though, Jose, is that, you know, some things are unexpected consequences.
Like, for example, when he went after through Doge, cutting down governmental employment, that's going to hit the minorities a lot harder than it is the whites.
And likewise, if they cut off everything except for grant fund, you know, no grant funding from the government or anything, no money from the government for Harvard, we're liable to find out what a house of cards they really have there because they sure don't want to use their endowment to do all this work.
They're either going to have to dig into the endowment to keep doing what they've been doing or they're going to stop doing what they've been doing.
And either way, it's a win for us.
I just think personally, I support like taxing endowments, but my fear with the Trump movement, and this has been my criticism of also the Republican Party, is that they're not able to kind of like institutionalize whatever gains they make.
And a succeeding administration is just going to just overturn that.
I will say this, one of the only positive aspects of the second Trump administration, in my opinion, is like the resettlement of the white boars to the U.S. and like the recognition of what's going on in South Africa as like a genocide and like institutional racism against whites.
But I feel that DC is pretty much beyond repair.
And it kind of goes on like a sound and fury about the Afrikaners coming over, but there hadn't been 50 of them yet.
So, you know, let's sit back and wait.
All right, when we come back, we've got one more segment with Jose.
We're going to get his full contact information and ask him about the current trends, as we did our previous guest, and also ask him about the issues that he is covering right now for his various broadcasts and publications that we're afraid.
Stay tuned.
Jose Nino, the first one.
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Jose Nino, when I receive an advanced copy of the forthcoming edition of Any American Free Press, I do two things.
And I've told Paul Angel, the editor, this.
Every time I get that PDF, Jose, that they send out, I do two things.
I look for your contributions and Nick Griffin's contributions.
And they're both your children.
This is, no, I'm telling you, they are, it's just such a great paper, and Jose's contributions to it have really taken it to another level, in my opinion.
So, Jose, I would ask you this.
There's several things we want to cover in only one segment remaining.
Are you bullish on our issues right now?
Do you believe that there is a confidence and a sort of advancement that is forming that will continue to persist?
Or is this fool's gold?
I'm actually more bullish about the institutional breakdown of the U.S. because of the fact that what we've seen the last decade is the collapse of the liberal international order, both domestically and abroad.
And what that means at the domestic level is that like neoconservatism and neoliberalism are on their way out.
And you're seeing discourse that's more focused on identity issues, such as immigration, sexual norms, and even Jewish influence, too.
And like events like October 7th have really created fertile ground, in my opinion, for the questioning of Jewish influence now.
And you're seeing unprecedented numbers of creators and other people talking about this.
At a policy level, I think in the short term, I'm not very optimistic because the DC ruling class, by and large, still abides by the norms of yesteryear.
But I believe that the younger generations are beginning to, especially whites, they're starting to recognize this country is not theirs.
It's being governed on behalf of like interlopers and they're radicalizing in ways that I've never like seen before in my time commentating on politics.
So that's what makes me optimistic.
I have pretty much kind of like become quote unquote blackpilled on the current political process, especially at the federal level for achieving change.
But I believe like at a more meta-political level, when it comes to discourse, things are trending in the right direction.
Let me ask you this, Jose.
How are the Democrats going to come back?
You know, I think they went a break.
That's a great question.
We haven't even looked at that yet because they still seem to be flummox and shell shots.
They still keep doing the same thing.
They're doubling down on stupid.
And, you know, I think they really lost the public when they decided to make sexual perversion a civil right.
How are they going?
How are they going to rebrand themselves so that they're not saddled with that albatross around their neck?
Well, that's a great question, Keith.
And I would add this addendum to that is, can they do that at this point, Jose?
Or has time passed them, are they regulated?
Do you think their future would be that of a regional party or are they going to go the way of the Whigs?
So this is interesting.
I have, and this is anecdotal as well.
One of my old friends growing up in like North Dallas suburbs, his father was a teacher at a high school that I attended at.
And I was pretty good.
I would talk to his dad all the time about politics.
He was a staunch liberal.
And I've maintained contact with him for years.
And one thing he mentioned to me is that he's actually become very jaded with the Democratic Party and has noticed, and I actually agree with him on this, with his assessment, that Democrats, the only way they win really, is whenever Republicans preside over like an economic collapse.
But then whenever they win, they really aren't able to build up like a sufficient majority governing coalition to pass, meaning full legislation, or they'll pass stuff that just maintains like the degenerate status quo and then they get voted out of office and that same cycle continues.
And I think it's going to be like more of the same.
They are, in my opinion, the only way they can win is if they start actually nominating straight white males, which is like a huge.
Yeah.
Like, which is a hard ask for them at this juncture because one of the uncomfortable truths of American politics, because it is one of the few countries where they still have like a nominally democratic process, is that female candidates just like they cannot win these type of elections at the national level.
If you look at female candidates in other Western countries, they tend to win in these parliamentary democracies.
Yeah, in parliamentary systems where there's not as much citizen input.
There's a lot of closed door type of negotiations on selecting leaders.
Whereas in the U.S., massive amounts of the working class, whether it's whites and some other white passing groups, they just have no time for these so-called like boss babe type of female candidates that are forward like that.
The Hispanic population seems to be trending Republican, don't you think?
Well, we talked to Jose specifically about that in the last cycle.
Yeah, I mean, that was a huge geopolitical shift.
They carry on about the blacks.
Blacks went from 10% to 12% for the Republicans, but the Hispanics, I mean, a little bit more so in Michigan, which was important.
But no, I mean, yeah, of course, we've talked to Jose about that, and we've talked about the- Yeah, Hispanic males went majority for Trump, Hispanic males.
So this is one thing that's kind of cynical, though.
Yes, Hispanic males voted majority for Trump, I believe, like 53%.
And it almost the electorate went like almost like a 50-50 split, like in terms of Hispanics, whether they're male or female.
There was a big emphasis that the Trump campaign made in terms of tapping into the gender wars.
Especially with all these dating podcasts and influencers that basically use the typical strategy, the Jamal and Julio strategy, where they focus more on sexual issues and dating issues as opposed to racial issues.
And my fear is that despite these successes, you may start to see the Republican Party.
This is like a excuse for the Republican Party to start bringing in more Hispanics and other like non-whites that are slightly more receptive to the Republican Party.
And as a result, it's going to turn the Republican Party as like the party of slopulism, if you will.
They're going to be just promoting slop and like really third world style politics.
And it avoids like deeper questions of racial issues.
And there's people like Steve Bannon that really double down on this gender strategy and avoid a lot of racial issues.
That's one of my fears.
But I do believe that's yeah, and I believe that this is part of, I'd argue, a regime strategy because there's some Jewish intellectuals like Yasha Munk that promote this kind of stuff where they want to deracialize politics as much as possible through the use of intermarriage,
through like racial mixing and focusing on like gender issues.
So to prevent like white majority block voting, they want to polarize as much as possible.
It's a classic divide and rule.
But yeah, I do think that the Democratic Party does have kind of an identity crisis because of the fact that they've chosen so many unpopular issues ranging from mass migration to sexual deviancy that they're basically becoming a very increasingly a regional party.
But at the same time, the Republican Party is the stupid party and it does serve the interests of oligarchs.
So if they preside over an economic collapse, the same predictable cycle of voting the bums out will occur and then you'll have the new bums come into office and then they get voted out while the country continues to be a lot of people.
Well, there's a choice in between the perverted party and the stupid party.
Well, hopefully they'll all become educated by hearing more and reading more from Jose Niño, including, by the way, an incredible article that was published by Kevin McDonald at the Occidental Observer a few days ago, marching together, drifting apart, talking about the rupture of the black-Jewish or the Jewish-black alliance.
That was a great article, Jose.
Well, I called Kevin and I said, Kevin, you need to put this in the print version of the next.
And I'm the one who told you.
Thank you.
Yeah, no, that's true.
Keith told me, I told Kevin, and Kevin said, you know what?
You're right.
And I've seen the preview for the summer issue of TOQ, and that is going to be in the print edition, Jose.
Let me ask you this, with about a minute remaining, plug all of your contact information.
Where can people get more Jose Niño?
Well, if you want some of my social media, like where I'm mostly active, it's going to be on X slash Twitter at Jose Al Nino.
And then my substack is Jose Nino Unfiltered.
That's where you can find my podcast as well, El Niño Speaks, which is also on Spotify and YouTube.
And you can catch my written work as well on the sub-stack, Jose Nino Unfiltered, in addition to the Libertarian Institute, where I write about foreign policy exclusively, and Occidental Observer when it comes to organized jewelry.
And then I write for American Free Press and the Barnes Review as well.
Listen to this guy.
It would be quicker for me to ask Jose where he's not public.
Where he's not public.
But you know what?
It is all so well deserved.
The first time I got to know Jose and saw a little bit of his work, and I was reading you at that time, Jose, on big league politics.
And I told American Free Press, if you don't get this guy, you're missing one hell of an opportunity.
And since then, you've been really the star of Sarah.
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Like, that was what opened up these opportunities.
It wouldn't have happened without you and your talent, but we're happy to have played a small role in letting other people know about it.
Now a lot of people know about it.
We'll be right back.
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Hey, are you having a good time tonight?
As we haven't had time.
Are you having a good time tonight as we kick off summer here on TPC, TPC's sizzling summer from now through those hot August nights that Neil Diamond talked about in Brother Love's Traveling Salvation Show?
Memorial Day through August.
It's going to be hot outside and hot inside the studio.
And are you having fun so far tonight?
We're kicking off summer tonight.
It's having more fun and have to take my clothes off.
Well, we had to actually do that.
Do you remember that one time way back when when the AC?
Oh, yeah, in the cottonfield?
Yeah, that was at, yeah, that was at, we were still on 1380 back then before we moved to 1600, and that was WLRM.
And the air went out, and that studio was a metal.
It was made out of metal.
It was just, I mean, it was just a tin building.
Without any air conditioning.
You know, it was cold in the winter and hot in the summer.
And the AC went out, and Winston was with me that particular broadcast, Winston Smith.
And we sweated through everything.
I didn't see you guys taking your clothes off.
We were down to just our shorts, and it was like 100 degrees outside, 100 degrees Fahrenheit, and it felt like winter.
And we had to go outside to cool down in 100-degree weather because that 10, the sun cooking that 10.
So we've been, anyway, that summer in the South, of course.
But nevertheless, nevertheless, welcome back.
And as we were kicking off last week, we were so busy last week.
I couldn't even gripe about Yankee Memorial Day and how, you know, all the unnecessary loss of life.
We were so busy.
We're in such a good mood.
I couldn't even do that.
I do it every year.
We're not going to do it tonight, but we didn't do it last week either.
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All right, but who said who's saying seeing you in September was the happenings?
Well, was it the Letterman before then?
I don't know.
Well, I'm talking about, now we've got to look it up.
And we got so much to do, we got to hurry.
Yeah, we've got to get down to real important things, like who was the artist on see you.
The happenings, yeah.
The happenings.
That's the one that went most popular.
There may have been some other people.
Well, I see the tempos saying it in 1959, but the happenings in 1966 was the one that you probably remember.
Tempos, yeah, that was, was that a black group?
Probably.
Well, you know, there was a lot of that going on in the early 60s.
You had interpretive artists taking like silhouettes.
Herman's Hermann's made silhouettes into a huge hit, but it was originally saying by a black group.
Johnny Rivers, every song he ever did was except for Secret Agent Man.
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Gods in Generals stands out among major motion pictures for its positive portrayal of the Confederacy and its depictions of Robert E. Lee and Stonewall Jackson as heroes.
It's exciting.
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And the characterizations, especially of Stonewall Jackson, are deeply moving.
If you watch that movie, I'm not going to say you're going to cry, but if you watch it and you don't well up with pride and emotion, you're dead.
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A lot of people outside of the South sympathize with us, so I would say you're dead.
I mean, most of our people that are.
Yeah.
Yeah, if you're listening tonight, you get it.
Yeah, you got it.
I mean, I swell up with that same emotion when I tell the story that Harry Cooper shared with us on this program.
I'm not a German, but when he told me the story of a Luftwaffe pilot in the waning days of the war, he was in the air, he was fighting, and he could see, while he was in the air, he could see the fires on the front of the western side and the fires on the front of the eastern side.
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That makes me well up with tear.
And so you don't have to be a southerner to get it.
We don't have to be Germans to get it.
We get it because we're white.
In 2011, an executive at Warner Brothers reached out to ask if we would collaborate with them to promote the re-release of this film because it was the 150th anniversary of the war.
And I would typically avoid associating my good name with Hollywood, but in this instance, I was pleased to help them promote this particular film.
And there are some great clips over the many previous Confederate History Month series that we have featured on this program.
We have played it.
We actually didn't play any this year because I wanted to save it for this fundraising appeal.
But our second quarter fundraising appeal is now online and we're not online because we can't accept credit card contributions.
But if you could, it is ongoing.
And a special DVD copy of this film is one of our current incentives.
So we would ask that you would consider contributing and you will hear scenes like this.
This is an incredible scene.
the great character actor Stephen Lang portraying Stonewall Jackson, and he did it probably even better than Stonewall himself could have.
Throughout the broad extent of the country through which you have marched, by your respect for the rights and property of others, I've always shown you are soldiers.
not only to defend, but able and willing both to defend and protect.
You've already won a brilliant reputation throughout the army of the whole Confederacy.
And I trust in the future by your deeds in the field and by the assistance of the same kind Providence who has hitherto favored our cause, you will win more victories and add luster to the reputation you now enjoy.
You already gained a proud position in the future history of this our second war of independence.
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Ted Turner, I went to the burial of the Hunley crew.
Ted Turner led that procession.
He led that procession in Charleston, South Carolina, right around the time this movie was released, and he was dressed as a Confederate general.
That is the Ted Turner.
I saw that with my own eyes.
I was there.
And our tie-in with this movie is that the studio, Warner Brothers, who was the distributor, Ted Turner, made the movie.
Warner Brothers distributed it.
They asked us to help promote the re-release in commemoration of 150 years since the war between the states in 2011.
We did it, and we're proud of it.
We're proud of our association with that film.
$100 or more, you're going to get it if you contribute before June the 30th.
But your edition will be special.
It will be signed by a previous guest of TPC, a special guest of TPC.
We won't tell you who.
There's going to be different ones that are signing different copies.
We'll see who you get.
But it'll be somebody of lasting importance to this program.
It's a great movie.
Help keep us on the air.
Get a great movie.
Watch it with your friends and family.
Confederate History Month is something we celebrate all year round here on TPC.
We'll be right back.
Stay tuned.
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Jesus my little school.
You know what I'm doing?
You know what I got.
Well, I tell you, man, I'm a sucker for vocal harmonies of the 1960s.
East meets West.
That was the Beach Boys, the four seasons on the other side of the continent, and better music was never made, ever.
Yep, there was a lot of harmonizing going on back then.
A lot of layering and those vocal harmonies.
You know, the Beach Boys, Brian Wilson's big inspiration was a group called the Four Freshmen in the late 40s, early 50s.
You have to look them up.
Well, I know who the Four Freshmen are.
I know the Clovers and all of the people that the harp tones, all of these vocal groups.
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No doubt about it.
And it was a reason because there was so much confidence and so much happiness and harmony in American society, which I guess transcended into the harmonies of the music.
And there's prosperity.
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So let's go back to this movie we're talking about because we are promoting TPC's second quarter fundraising drive, which will run through June the 30th.
If you are an established donor, you will have received by now, we hope, a letter in the mail that explains to you all of the incentives and why you should give or why we hope you might consider giving.
But at the first level, $100 or more, help keep us on the air, help keep this momentum going.
The extent to which we have played a role in this shift that we've been talking about will probably never be known.
But I guarantee you, it's more that has been advertised.
And this movie, I mean, just the fact that Warner Brothers would reach out to us to help them promote this re-release.
And this was no, you know, student video project.
This was Warner Brothers.
This was Ted Turner.
Robert Duvall as Robert E. Lee.
Jeff Daniels played the Union, Joshua Chamberlain of the Union Army, and Stephen Lang as Stonewall Jackson.
Now, interestingly, Keith, Stephen Lang is a Jewish man from New York, but he's also a character actor.
And in preparing for this role, he read everything Stonewall Jackson ever said, everything he ever did.
He read all about him, many books about him.
And he became Stonewall Jackson in his delivery, in his addiction.
It's called method acting.
But it was more than that.
It wasn't just that.
In his accent, he was Stonewall Jackson.
But he said through reading about him, and he has said this, and we've talked about this in previous Confederate History Month installments, but this Jewish actor from New York, Stephen Lang, immensely talented, had some very big mainstream success as playing as a character in the Avatar franchise in recent years.
But he said the Confederate calls won him over.
And studying for this role, he said that he came to believe in exactly what Stonewall Jackson believed.
He did not denigrate this role.
It wasn't like the guy who played David Duke in the Black Klansman.
He had to go to therapy after playing Duke.
He said, no.
No.
No, he said, that was also a Jewish actor by the name of Topher Grace.
But Stonewall Jackson said he became a believer in the Confederate cause after playing this role and after reading Stonewall Jackson, reading about him.
He's a convert.
And that's just entirely remarkable.
And he said that Jeff Daniels, who played Joshua Chamberlain, when they were on set, he said he couldn't stand to look at him.
He couldn't even stand to look at Jeff Daniels for playing one of the Union heroes.
That they would see each other on set and just grunt at each other, that they wouldn't even talk.
That's how into the role that he was.
So the description of the film is Gods and Generals recounts the fierce allegiances in combat of the early Civil War.
Ronald Maxwell directs this epic prequel to Gettysburg, framing the story with three bold men in three fateful battles.
The men, Joshua Chamberlain, Stonewall Jackson, and Robert E. Lee, the battles, Manassas, Fredericksburg, Chancellorsville.
We came out pretty well in those three.
Not the battles but lost the war.
Through these combatants and conflicts, we witnessed the bravery and strife of a nation at war with itself.
So as I told you, if this movie had the ability to win over Stephen Lang, the actor, what could it do to normal people who should have sympathies in this manner?
Let's listen to Stephen Lang here.
This is an incredible scene.
Oh, my God, it's emotional.
He is rallying the troops before a battle, and he tells them, stand up, stand up, Virginia.
Stand up, you men.
We're going to drive them back to Washington.
And this is the battle of the first Manassas.
Listen to this.
This is just incredible.
I want you to have this in your home.
Take a listen.
Stand up.
Stand up.
Stand up, Virginia.
Stand up, you man!
Stand up, you see me!
We don't have to!
We don't drive them to Washington!
Stand off what you know.
Resolve your fire.
Come and come play the fire.
And give them.
Mayanite.
And we do charge.
Go up, you ace!
Of course, that was a great Confederate victory there at first.
See, again, they had them on the run.
They could have captured Washington, D.C., probably if they had followed up.
But unfortunately, PGT Beauregard inherited the command of the Southerners, and he was timid and didn't do it.
He did the same thing in Shiloh.
After Albert Sidney Johnson, the original Confederate commander, was killed, he took over and Forrest begged him to let, that's General Nathan Betrick Forrest, begged him to let him go down and capture Pittsburgh Landing because if he did that, Don Carlos Buell's reinforcements could not have gotten into the battle and the Confederates would have won.
Well, Robert E. Lee, excuse me, Robert Duvall is a Hollywood A-lister with credits, unimaginable credits to his career.
He plays Robert E. Lee so expertly in this movie.
He is actually a collateral descendant of the Lee Custis family.
People don't know that.
Robert Duvall is a descendant, a collateral descendant of this line.
But we'll talk more about that in subsequent weeks as our June fundraiser continues.
But I want to play one more clip.
We've played it many times, but this is again Stephen Lang In his role as Stonewall Jackson in this film, which is our incentive for anyone who gives $100 or more between now and the end of June, he prophetically explains what will happen if the South loses.
Listen to this man.
The Apache were defending their homes as we will be defending ours.
If we fight as well as the Apache, I pity the Yankee invader.
General Stewart, if I had my way, we would show no quarter to the enemy.
No more than the Redskins showed your troopers the black flag, sir.
If the North triumphs, it is not alone the destruction of our property.
It is the prelude to anarchy, infidelity, the ultimate loss of free and responsible government on this continent.
It is the triumph of commerce, the banks, factories.
We should meet the federal invader on the outer verge of just and right defense and raise at once the black flag.
No quarter to the violators of our homes and firesides.
Our political leadership in Richmond is too timid to face the reality of this coming war.
They should look to the Bible.
It is full of such wars.
Only the black flag will bring the North quickly to its senses rapidly in the war.
That's exactly what you were talking about, Keith.
That was Stonewall Jackson.
That was Stephen Lang playing Stonewall Jackson.
Not bad for a native New Yorker to tackle that accent and that emotion as he did.
And $100 or more, we're going to get this DVD.
How many do we have?
We've got a lot of them in the studio.
You see them all over the place right here, Donnie.
I do, absolutely.
Boxes.
We're going to get one to you, and it's going to be signed by a special friend of TPC.
I would tell you who, except for we're going to get many different guests of TPC to sign different copies.
So I don't know exactly who you will get, but it'll be somebody that you want.
Noteworthy personage.
And again, we had a role in the promotion of the re-release of this film.
Warner Brothers actually worked with me beyond that.
They cast me as the recurring villain.
You know, they did at two Swedish TV shows, season one and season two.
But a little reality show, you know, I would come on and say what I had to say, and it would be dim lighting and scary music.
But no, it wasn't that bad.
Kind of like a full story.
I got per diem.
I got per diem.
Anyway, raise the black flag.
That's something we should remember.
Great words from a great Christian man, Stonewall Jackson.
One we should all enjoy.
I'm afraid the whole Civil War was an exercise from the Confederate viewpoint of nice guys finishing last.
We didn't burn down towns like Sherman did.
And Grant, what we did, there was one town in the north, Chambersburg, Pennsylvania, burnt down by Confederate troops, and that was Jubilee Early's troops to protest Sherman's march to the city.
Well, if Stonewall Jackson had had his way, we would have won the war.
If he'd have lived, we would have won the war.
We don't understand why God, ain't God's perfect timing and his will and why certain things don't happen when we think it should.
But nevertheless, this is a movie you should have in your DVD player.
We got the DVD, Keith.
You can't watch it because it's not VHS.
No, I've got a DVD player.
I'll do that.
Have you seen this one?
Yeah, I have.
All right.
Well.
All right, for our guests tonight, Jason Kuna and Jose Nino.
I'm James Edwards.
Please stand with us this second quarter, and we'll talk to you next week as we head into June.
Keith, this year, half over already?
That's right.
And hopefully, Trump is saving the best away.
Well, he's got three and a half more years by my account, but not a bad start to the first few months, that's for sure.