March 22, 2025 - The Political Cesspool - James Edwards
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You're listening to the Liberty News Radio Network, and this is the Political Cesspool.
The Political Cesspool, known across the South and worldwide as the South's foremost populist conservative radio program.
And here to guide you through the murky waters of the political cesspool is your host, James Edwards.
Welcome back to the third and final hour.
What's old is new again.
We have come full circle, and we are back to end the show as it began with Sam Dixon.
Going to ride shotgun with me in this third hour as we focus now, shift our focus back stateside after an hour in Russia with Charles Bosman and then the last hour in South Africa.
As Yogi Berra would say, it's deja vu all over again.
Well, I am glad.
And I asked Sam on a lark just right before we went on with Charles Bosman in the first hour, just minutes before the first hour began, if he would do us the honor of coming back in the third hour.
And so when you ask somebody that on a moment's notice, it's very easy for them to have a very good reason not to be able to do that.
But Sam is accommodating us, and I am very thankful for his time, especially, as I said, with short notice.
This had not been pre-planned to have him back with us for the third hour.
But I was thinking, and the ideas were percolating, and I thought he'd be wonderful to have on to talk about some of the issues that I want to cover that are taking place right here in America.
They are taking place around us.
They are evolving.
They are happening now.
And we'll see where they're going.
And I think Sam is a wonderful guest to have on to talk about this because he has seen it all.
He has been involved in, well, how would you describe your activism, Sam, going back to the time you were a teenager?
Many decades.
I have toiled in these vineyards since I was 15 years old.
Of racial activism.
63 years ago started.
of white racial activism you have been involved in different i call myself a racial uh a racial communitarian uh and a racial idealist and i i don't I don't like racial realist or race realist because it's a downer.
It sounds like somebody flipping on coming in the room and say, well, kids, the party's over.
Let's be realistic.
It's time to go home.
We have to be realistic.
Race should be one should embrace one's race with enthusiasm and happiness.
Well, as you do, and as we have all tried to do here.
And so those are the vineyards in which you have toiled, the vineyards of white racial advocacy and activism.
So again, I say that.
You've been such a regular guest on this show for its two decades plus run now, so you don't need an introduction.
Everybody knows who you are, and you have such good standing in terms of being a thought leader.
I know you chide me about false modesty and you don't like to receive praise, but a lot of people look up to you and a lot of people appreciate your positions on the issues, which is why I thought.
I appreciate the fact that a lot of people confuse gray hairs with wisdom.
They think you'd actually learn something because you're old.
There again, the modesty, ladies and gentlemen, right on cue.
As Winston Churchill once said about Clement Attlee, I'm a very humble man with much to be humble about.
But I think you're great for this particular hour because we're going to be talking about some things that are happening right now.
And to hear your response as a man who has been around for so long and knows so many people and has traveled in these circles for a lifetime is, I think, it'll be informative and enlightening.
And so you are, feel free to correct me if I'm mischaracterizing you here, but certainly of the regular guests that we feature on this program, and you're chief among them, you're one of the top two or three in history in terms of the number of appearances logged.
You are certainly one of the more anti-it-can be done through the system type of folks out there.
Is that a fair characterization?
Yes, I think I think I'm realistic.
As you use the word realism, I can't understand why people can't see this.
There is no hope in the system and that we have to think post-America.
It's right in front of your eyes.
The evidence is there.
It's irrefutable.
Well, I didn't want to drill into that necessarily, but I just wanted to start that off as the foundation for this next question.
So that is what you believe.
And listen, I'm not arguing that.
I think, again, if you look forward to that post-America, or that's what you're counting on, I mean, there's certainly with the level of leverage and resources and organization that the white advocacy realm has right now, there's certainly no guarantees, to say the least, that if everything gets tumped over, that when the pieces get put back on the board, we're going to be in a better shape than we are now.
So not knowing what that future would entail, if it would be better or much worse or whatever, you know, again, we take what we can get through the existing system and we accept that.
So again, I'm setting this up to ask you about Trump, obviously.
Your position on Trump as a guy who does not believe that reform for the system, I mean, real meaningful and lasting reform through this current existing system here in the United States is possible.
But yet you and I were talking on the phone the other day, and you have been, would it be fair to say, pleasantly surprised by some of the things Trump has done or tried to do in the last two months?
Yes, I never dreamed that he would do the things he did.
He's handled it quite well given the limitations of the system.
It doesn't mean that I've changed my position in the slightest, that ultimately this will fail and that we must create something new.
But I never dreamed that he would do this.
It was so in such contrast to his first term.
We came into office apparently trusting people like Nick Romney and other Republicans with the feeling that, well, I won the election now and I was the party's nominee and now they'll work with me.
He did not realize, apparently, I think there's a level of naivete to Trump.
He did not realize that people like this can never, ever be trusted.
It's like a rattlesnake.
You can't ever pick it up and pit it like you would a cat or a puppy.
And so sure enough, Romney screwed him over and all these other people screwed him over and things were all falling apart.
But this time he was ready.
And he signed hundreds of executive orders the very first day.
Obviously, he didn't stay up till 2 in the morning at the keyboard typing out executive orders.
These things have been thought out far in advance.
And he does seem to be trying to, seriously trying to make the illegal aliens who've invaded our country go home.
He is working.
We have covered, and as you know, we have covered for the last two months everything that he has done that we agree with.
And that is not to say that surely there should not be any sort of misconception that because we have praised what we have seen out of the Trump administration on this program over the course of the last two months that we believe Trump is our savior, that we were wrong all of these years, that we can take back Washington and this is going to be a different thing.
But I do think, Sam, that because of the executive order, some of the things you've said, some of the things that are happening.
I mean, just this week, I've been dismantling the Department of Education.
I mean, there are some radical things happening, and they're happening at a rapid pace.
And we'll see what sticks and what doesn't.
I mean, you've got a big problem there, of course, with these U.S. district judges.
And this is something, again, you being an officer of the little judge.
Every little judge apparently thinks that he can run the country.
He's really an Uber president to reverse the president's policy.
Well, here's just one example.
And I would love your response to this.
So, again, having established that, whether it be based upon expectations or just flat out what has happened, you're giving high grades, I think, as a lot of our other guests have to Trump so far.
But so here you have U.S. District Judge Ana Reyes.
Never heard of her.
I have no idea who she is, but I see her here smiling.
She's very proud of this ruling that the Pentagon can't enforce President Trump's order banning transgender people from serving in the military.
So there you have, Sam, U.S. District Judge Ana Reyes.
She found in the Constitution the right for children to cut off their sex organs.
It is there, and she found it, and she was able to stop this executive order.
You have Stephen Miller here in the White House saying district court judges have now decided that they are in command of the armed forces.
Is there no end to this madness?
But what you've got, of course, is the problem that you've had for a long, long time.
How Trump deals with it, if he intends to deal with it at all, I'd like to know because you've got all of these judges.
Nobody voted for them.
They voted for Donald Trump.
Donald Trump is the president.
Donald Trump is the one that the majority of the American people wanted to lead the country, not these judges who think they are presidents and they are blocking the president.
How can this judge who nobody knows stop the president?
Is that the way it was supposed to be?
Well, no, but you have to understand judges.
And people, I appreciate your audience and other people who are willing to listen to me because I'm tired of listening to me.
I lie awake at night.
I often say to myself, can you please shut up and let me go to sleep?
Why are people listening to you?
But you have to, you know, I'm not saying this out of an excuse for failure.
I haven't been a great lawyer, but I've been a reasonably successful lawyer, more so than the average lawyer.
But judges, I was surprised when I started passing law at the people would come to me who were the most fanatical fringe of what we might call our movement.
I would have to say that.
All right.
No, go ahead, Sam.
We're going to skip that break.
Keep going.
I had Nazis or Kransmen sometimes that comes to my office and they thought they had found some magic formula, Abba Cadabra, and they wanted me to file suits to invalidate the Panama Canal Treaty or something.
Well, we're going to go into court and we're going to say blah, And the judge is just going to throw up his arms back in the male judges and say, my God, what can I do?
They said Abba Cadabra.
They have this magic mantra.
I guess I'll just have to enjoy the Panama Canal Treaty.
Judges are not gods.
They are not superior people.
They don't come out of some kind of a Sunday school class for exceptionally moral people.
Judges put their pants on one at a time in the morning like you and I do.
They sweat.
They develop body odor.
They have to get their hair cut.
They're like us.
And they're chosen in a crass political way.
They are chosen around the country by the executive branch of government.
Someone like Biden or Franklin Roosevelt, some sleazy, conniving, so-called elected official.
And on the federal and sometimes state level, they are confirmed by a legislative branch that's full of people like Nancy Pelosi and that.
So they're not these unblemished people.
They are politicians in black robes.
And furthermore, studies, I'm very interested in the subject of sociopathy.
I recommend everyone to get a book by a professor at Harvard Medical School, a woman professor, by the way, named Martha Stout, called The Sociopath Next Door.
It's a short book.
She's highly intelligent, but she writes in a way that lay people can understand it.
And 4% of the American people test out a sociopathic.
But they have a physical test of sociopathy, unlike most Netherlands artists, so they can rate these things.
The highest rate of sociopathy is among politicians.
And the second highest is among lawyers.
Judges and district attorneys are both politicians and lawyers.
So the rate of sociopathy among judges has got to be through the roof, you know, 45, 55%.
Sociopaths are people with no conscience at all.
They have no conscience.
They never identify with people.
They're amoral.
And these people fill the ranks of these courts.
And their only gain is to have fun punishing people.
That's the only pleasure that sociopaths have, is winning, is pushing people around.
And they also are looking at their career, where they're going to get promoted.
And so it's not surprising that they hand out these rulings.
We have to lose respect for the courts, just as I say we have to lose respect for the entire government.
So long as you respect the government, so long as you think you can make America great again, so long as you think America ever was all that great, you're part of the problem.
You're not part of the solution.
All right.
So going back now, though, to these bans, I think it now exceeds 30.
30 times now, you've had an anonymous, I mean, they're not anonymous, but they're not a name you've ever heard of before, these district court judges, circuit court judges, batting down Trump's EOs.
Now, some of them have stuck, some of them have not, but you have a lot of this coming and more will come.
Is there a path forward?
Now, again, this goes back to is Trump, how serious is he about doing these things?
Could he railroad the courts and just move forward anyway?
I mean, he did do that in one limited instance.
I think a judge had said he can't fly back these members of this supposedly terrorist gang to one of these South American countries, and they disregarded the order and told the flight to continue.
They landed in South America and were put into prison.
I mean, can that be something that he continues to do, or is that highly unlikely?
It's highly unlikely, and he would probably be stopped by the Supreme Court, even with the conservatives on the court.
But it can be done in American history.
You know, the Supreme Court tried to prevent the whites from moving the Cherokee Indians onto reservations in Oklahoma when we were settling our country.
And Andrew Jackson made the famous statement that the court, the court has made, Marshall, I think it was, has made his decision, let him enforce it.
The executive branch of government enforces things.
It's the executive branch in the form of Blight David Eisenhower who sent the troops with bayonets to threaten southern children and make them mix with people of another race in 1956 in Little Rock, Arkansas.
The court couldn't send the army.
It was the executive branch who sent the army.
So the courts have a problem in trying to arrest the president or that kind of thing, which is what they'd have to do if it just came to a straight out power versus power fight.
But in America, the courts have been exalted.
We are an unusual country in that the courts are the judiciary is the supreme branch of the government.
That's not the standard in world history.
All three branches of the government are sworn to support the Constitution, and all three of them are entitled to interpret the Constitution.
In our country, due to a very clever move by the first Chief Justice, the courts are the supreme branch of the government.
And so, you know, but that isn't written in company.
It doesn't really say anywhere that the judiciary will be the supreme branch of the government.
I always maintain that in the busing situations decades ago, if someone like you had been president, he could have said, you know, the Supreme Court has found that the United States Constitution requires that Southern school children in Charlotte be loaded onto buses and bused as far as 70 miles a day back and forth to arrive at a correct racial balance.
They say they can read the Constitution and that the founding fathers intended that school buses be driven all over Charlotte to mix the races up.
And President Edwards could have said, you know, I've read the Constitution.
I don't see it there.
The courts have asked me to enforce an unconstitutional decision they have made.
And I'm not going to do it.
That's interesting.
And that's what happened.
And then you set up a showdown, and I'm not so sure now with Trump having an entire, almost the entirety of the Republican Congress just at a whip's end, that he might not be able to have the power and the consensus support to if somebody was going to do it, he's the guy to do it, I think, at least so far in recent American history.
Now, I would ask you this.
I don't see it coming either, but it would certainly be interesting.
But that's not to say nothing ever happens.
A lot has changed in the last couple of months.
We might drill in in a moment to some of the things that you've most liked about some of the actions Trump has done or at least tried to do.
But culturally speaking, Sam, I mean, whether it can happen through the system or if it's going to have to happen, as you believe, through something after this current order expires, do you think that there is a seed right now of a cultural shift that can be lasting?
And I'm just looking at some of the things here that just go through just a few things here.
Coming out of conservative media now, and I'm talking about conservative media, there was a big Media Matters report about how it's just five to one, the new media is just supplanting the old woke ideology.
And we're talking about people like Tucker Carlson, Joe Rogan, Matt Walsh.
I mean, there's so many of them now, but they're all talking about things now that they would have never talked about just even a handful of years ago, much less 20 years ago or when we started here or 60 years ago when you were getting started.
But you're talking about now major conservative mouthpieces talking about removing Emma Lazarus's poem from the Statue of Liberty, talking about America is not about refugees.
America is socially full of the wretched refuse from other countries.
It is.
That's certainly what we have become.
But you see Black Lives Matter Plaza being dismantled in D.C., the woke language being removed across the federal government.
Tucker Carlson now even saying that race is not a social contract and defending our positions here.
You have, again, another one here, just with wildly popular millions of viewers.
Yes, this is a country that was born through colonization and conquest, and I'm very proud of that fact.
Then he goes a little bit more into that, Sam.
America is not a nation built by immigrants.
America was built by settlers.
There's a difference.
Settlers ventured out into the wilderness to build a civilization.
The modern immigrant comes to place that is already built.
Settlers planted a tree.
The modern immigrant comes to eat the fruit.
If you cannot see the difference, I don't know how else to explain it.
You see that happening all over so-called conservative media now.
So, again, I could give you many, many, many more examples.
It's all a result of Trump, whether direct or indirect.
He has made a space now for these ideas to flourish.
A lot of the ideas that you only heard in places like this or American Renaissance or countercurrents or wherever, you're hearing everywhere now.
Do you see a cultural shift beginning to form?
I do.
I've made that point myself many times that when I was first going to meetings in the teens, 20s, 30s, 40s, 50s, there was nothing in America.
The National Review was cited by the CIA agent.
It's not known he was a CIA agent, William F. Buckley Jr., to be controlled opposition.
And all you have is controlled opposition, and even it was feeble.
They would have meetings in Washington, and I was in that go-to.
They'd have 200 people from all over the country at a meeting.
And for our group, the only people who had meetings, oh, I can remember Liberty Lobby, Willis Carter, they occasionally have a meeting, and there wouldn't be many people there.
It was impossible to get the word out.
But now with the internet has been like the Gutenberg printing press or the firearms.
It's leveled the playing field.
A peasant with a gun became the equal of a noble armed knight and could take him down, could shoot him.
And with Gutenberg's printing press, it was no longer possible for the priests to control everything that people read.
They didn't have a monopoly of copying books anymore.
And books could be printed and made available to large numbers of people with tremendous results in terms of the upheaval in Europe that came in the 1500s with the Reformation.
And I'm not kicking fan in the face of the Roman Catholic Church when I say that I'm not here to provoke Roman Catholics, but it is unquestionable that that was the case.
And yes, you know, several things have happened.
One is there is this means now of getting around the media, which didn't exist when I was young.
We had three television stations that all said the same thing.
We had two press agencies, United Press International Associated Press.
They all said the same thing.
Everything was the same.
Well, now the media is still that way.
Everything's the same, but you have an alternate media.
And the information gets out and around the barriers.
And then also, things are so much worse now.
You know, the conditions in America, people don't realize how bad they are, but some people do.
Most people don't realize how much worse off people are now than they were in the 1940s and 50s.
But we are worse off.
The standard of living in America has been dropping for most people since the 1970s.
And that's just in terms of money and what you eat and how much money you've got and things like that.
In terms of quality of life, it's vastly worse than it was in the 50s and 40s.
So reality is making its unwelcome presence known.
It's the elephant in the living room.
You can't deny it anymore.
Race, you can probably ignore race or say it doesn't exist, but race is not going to ignore you.
The race is going to assert itself.
Absolutely, yes.
Another big thing in recent autism is our enemies have completely lost out in the laboratory.
They like to say on National Radio, and they put these little signs up in their front yards where I live, in this house, we believe in science.
But no, they don't believe in science.
Because science has proven that those who believe race exists, it's physical, it's immutable, it's real, and that there are real devils.
Those people have won in the laboratory.
Ladies and gentlemen, we have Sam Dixon for one more segment after this break, and I want to just really touch on something that's sort of a live wire.
And again, because of his credentials, and we established those earlier this hour, I think he's a wonderful person to get an opinion from on the question I'm about to ask next.
Stay tuned.
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Sam Dixon playing doing a double header tonight, first hour and third, and we're thankful for that.
Sam, here's where we really got to get into something, and I'd love your opinion on this.
And that is, again, pertaining to Trump and how nationalists in America are responding to some of the things he's done.
Now, I'm not going to go through all of the things that he's done that I am in agreement with.
And you've mentioned you've been in agreement with a lot of the things.
I mean, we've had however many shows we've had since he was inaugurated, which was just now two months ago this week, only two months ago.
We've spent hours talking about some of these executive orders, and I think a lot of them, most of them, have ranged from good to potentially transformational in some ways.
Obviously, there's some things he's done that he doesn't like.
Nothing has changed with regard to this program, except for the fact that there's been some good news out of Washington and we've covered it.
Now, here's one of them that I think was tailor-made for you, Sam, to react to, and it deals with the FBI, which you've been very publicly critical of for years.
And one of Roberta Kaplan's lieutenants from the Charlottesville lawsuit, the group of attorneys that went after the Charlottesville defendants was a group called the Integrity First for America.
That was their name.
So this is the lieutenant of that group.
Her name was Amy Spittelnick or Spitalnik.
I'm not sure how you pronounce it.
But she is lamenting on social media this week this headline out of Reuters.
And it reads, FBI scales back staffing, tracking of domestic terrorism probes, sources say, to which she responds, and again, this is one of the attorneys involved in the Charlottesville civil suits.
The FBI has cut staff and tracking of domestic terrorism, directly undermining the ability to counter white supremacists and anti-government extremists.
And it comes along broader policies that only further embolden extremists, which, she says, is the point.
Now, that being said, Jason Kessler has responded to her with this, if I can find it, which reads, people who attack Trump because he's not anti-Semitic enough may have good intentions, but are actively sabotaging the best thing that has happened for pro-white activists during this whole crisis.
We aren't being hunted down by our government right now, which is a good thing.
Your response to all that, I know that was a mouthful, but it really just sort of sets the full stage.
Well, there's no question that these are good news by Trump.
And among the good news are the revelations.
And we all knew what's going on, but we couldn't show it.
We couldn't cite chapter and verse.
But revealing that U.S. AID, supposedly dealing with foreign affairs, with the American government's express purpose of interfering in the domestic politics of every other nation on earth, which is the express purpose of things like that, and voted by Congress every year, while we get our panties in a wad over claims that somebody else is trying to influence us, I don't know.
When you meddle it with anybody else, they're going to meddle with you.
But anyway, all this stuff came out.
6,000 journalists receiving secret under-the-table stipends monthly from your tax dollars.
All done secretly, not revealed anywhere.
What in the hell business is it of the U.S. government to be giving checks to journalists?
The obvious reason is to pay, to reward them for being system toadies and saying what the system wants them to say.
And things like this, the $2 billion set aside to Stacey Abrams, the black candidate for governor in Georgia, whose credentials purportedly to save energy, her credentials on the subject of energy are weaker than mine on nuclear physics.
It's so obvious what they're doing.
So these things help erode trust in government.
They help open the eyes of those who are willing to see and hear of what we're dealing with in this country.
So yeah, these are good things.
But I don't agree with Kessler.
I think the failure to put the interests of the country ahead of a very powerful minority, the creation of ill will toward the United States all over the Muslim world by associating ourselves with the genocide in Gaza.
These are not trivial things.
They're important things.
But above all, and I know we're prisoners of hope, and you're hopeful, and that's good.
But as I was saying at the beginning, this is just a bump in the road.
It's a pleasurable bump to have the speed slowed down.
But the fact of the matter is, Trump did not win a great victory.
He squeaks to a victory over a very weak opponent.
She got, I think, 8.2%, and he got 9.2%.
And the remaining 2% was cast for groups like the Green Party and things like that that are ideologically aligned with Camel Harris.
And their base is growing.
Their base has more babies.
The majority of people in the country under 18 are non-white.
We see where this is going.
It's a pleasant slowing of the process.
And it's fun to see people like that.
The woman you were quoting that worked with Kaplan, the lawyer, as the Bible says, it's more blessed to give ulcers than to receive ulcers.
And it's nice to see them unhappy.
I'd like to see them a whole lot unhappier.
But the fact is, time's on their side, and there is no hope in the system.
We have to.
And that's the great danger to me from what's going on is we have to remain, like Lenin said of his Bolsheviks from 1905 to 1917.
We have to be the revolutionary vanguard.
And I'm not talking about running out in the streets.
Let Kaplan twist this as she may.
But the record, I don't think there's ever going to be a conspiracy to overthrow the system in America.
And it's not unadvisable to even try.
The system is doing a good job of committing suicide.
Let it kill itself.
And that's what it's doing.
But at some point, things are going to fall apart like they did in Russia in 1917.
And the baton of power will be left lying in the street.
Someone's going to grab it up.
And it should be us, the demographic core and creators of this nation.
We should grab it up.
And there are many lessons we have to learn from the Bolshevik Party and from Trump's initial news here in this new administration.
We have to hit hard.
We have to hit ruthlessly.
We have to move fast.
We cannot compromise.
There'll be no compromise.
Absolutely.
You and I have agreed on that for many, many years, as far as I can remember knowing you, which is, again, my entire adult life with so many of the guests on this program.
But I agree 100% with all of that.
Now, the future of the Democratic Party, polls can change overnight.
Right now, they're polling as low as they ever have in history since they've been tracking these things.
I think they're in the 20 percentage points in terms of favorability.
That can all change.
And as you say, there are good things happening, which we've never experienced before.
So it's almost hard to process what our reaction should be, but it runs a spectrum amongst our friends.
And you know my position on all of these things, Sam, is always to be if I agree with a person on one thing, I will bring him on and close in solidarity with him on that one issue, and we will work together on that issue.
If I agree with somebody on 90% of the things, that's even better.
Somewhere in between, that's okay too.
Doesn't matter to me.
I can have disagreements with people and not be in good company with them.
Although, it seems as though that between the people, friends of ours that are viewing Trump, it runs everywhere from everything that he is doing is a result of the people who control him.
It's all illusions.
Nothing is really good to almost a level of sycophancy.
And then a lot in between where we are.
I think the one thing we need to be sure to safeguard from is to not break the bonds of fellowship with people who see Trump differently.
That we cannot let Trump, Whatever the truth may be with them and whatever good may or may not be coming now and over the course of the next couple to four years, we cannot let this separate people who have worked well together in the past.
You would agree with that, obviously.
Yes, and I think Trump is somebody who's capable of growth.
The Trump we're dealing with today is a better Trump than the one in 2016.
And unlike so many people in America, Trump is a tough guy.
He's going to kick ass.
And you screw with him.
You don't piss on Superman's boots, as the song said, shoes.
And Trump is out to even the score with these people.
And he should.
Nobody's ever even the score with them.
When people like Nixon and others won, it was always, let's bring the country together.
All is forgiven.
All is forgotten.
No.
Forget, forgive, and forget.
No.
Remember and take appropriate steps.
And it's good that he's going after people in the FBI.
They deserve to be gotten gone after.
They're awful people.
FBI agents are terrible people.
They're not good, the way the way Sean Hampty says.
We have all these good people in the FBI.
To be in the FBI, you have to do things that are wrong.
And they do.
And that tells you what kinds of people there are, what they're like.
I've got to ask you something, Sam.
We will take this break.
I've got to ask you something about, and your guess is as good as anyone's.
Really nobody knows.
But Trump's view on race with regards to his war on DEI, which of course is, frankly, putting the screws to Godwin.
So I want to ask you that very quickly when we come back.
Stay tuned.
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Sam, I want to ask you, you mentioned, I do want to ask you about DEI and one more thing on race.
But you mentioned before about settling scores and going after these people who so went after him, and that Trump could be amenable to learning from his experiences.
And every indication right now would appear to prove that he has and that he does.
I saw this, and I read this with interest.
This was an NBC News report from earlier this week.
Trump claims Biden's pardons for J6 committee are void because he used an auto pen.
Now, there's very real evidence that Joe Biden didn't know some of the things he was signing, if he signed them at all.
I think Mike Johnson's testimony on that, that he had signed something and thought he had signed something different, totally unrelated.
I believe that that's easily believable.
But this is the story reads from NBC News.
President Donald Trump claimed, as they put it, without evidence this week, that his predecessors' pardons from members of the House Select Committee that investigated the J6 2021 attacks, as MSNBC puts it, or NBC puts it rather, on the Capitol are invalid because then President Joe Biden didn't use a real pen.
This is what Trump wrote.
In all caps, no less.
The pardons that sleepy Joe Biden gave to the Unselect Committee of Political Thugs and many others are hereby declared void, vacant, and of no further force or effect because of the fact that they were done by an auto pen.
Now, I don't know how serious he is about going after this and going after people who have received these preemptive pardons.
And of course, there would be a judge you've never heard of that could be quick to come to their defense.
It's going to go to the Supreme Court and he's not even likely to win there.
But boy, would I like to see it?
Do you think he is serious or is this bluster that he's going to go after some of these people from the J6 committee that received these pardons?
I don't think it's going to stand out.
I'd like to see them all tried.
And ultimately, I believe that race treason is a crime.
It's a crime that transcends codified law.
And there should be no ex post facto bar to punishing race traders.
And so all this is just sort of legalistic rulemaking.
But no, you can't say that the president has to pick up a pen and sign each document.
In day-to-day business, it's not a forgery.
If you authorize me to sign your name to something, that's not a forgery.
Well, and of course, I mean, in real estate now, almost every contract is executed online where you just push a button and it doesn't an auto signal sign.
It's good, and I'm glad he's doing it.
And I would certainly like to see these people punished.
There are lots of them.
Many people deserve punishment.
It's remarkable to me that poor Louis XVI and Marie Antoinette were taking the guillotine.
Did they do the crimes that the presidents and congressmen and senators have done to us?
Not even close.
If our people weren't so passive, there'd be guillotines in every city in this country going 24 hours a day.
I'm speaking in jest, of course.
I see that.
But with history being your precedent, yes, but you're saying is there would be more cause for the more legitimate cause for that now, legally speaking, for that to be a punishment that's meted out than some of the people who have faced it in the past.
The most remarkable thing about American society and American character today that we live with is the extraordinary passivity.
Stories come and go, and there's not a ripple.
Stories that among normal people would provoke a revolution come and go.
One that I've referred to before on your program.
Do you remember the name of, I've got it right here.
I can't.
Do you remember the name of Daniel Terry Williams?
It does not ring a bell now.
Have you heard it from the lips of Mary Louise Kelly, who runs all things considered for national voting?
And I have no.
That's the name of the 22-year-old father of two who was suddenized to death by black people in the prison where he'd been sent for a relatively trivial crime.
That says that his death was the prison tried to cover up.
They tried to claim he died of a heroin overdose.
You told me this a couple of years ago.
Yeah.
I remember.
And Mary Louise Kelly, who had yak, yak, yakked her mouth off about George Floyd, she looked at this story.
You know it came from us again.
She said, oh, this isn't good for the people who put, for the people who employ me and put those on my pantry.
It's going into the circular file, and away it went.
So she made herself, as did Anderson Cooper and the New York Times editorial board and the Atlanta Journal Constitution's Cox family owns that newspaper.
They made themselves accessories after the fact to this grotesque murder.
And so, you know, what is to be done with someone like Mary Louise Kelly?
After the system destroys itself and the country dissolves, is she to be scolded?
Is she to get another job in some other newspaper, maybe not something as prestigious as National Voter Radio?
What is the appropriate response of a people who have been betrayed to this extent by someone covering up a grotesque crime of this nature because wrong genders, wrong sexual preference, wrong race of the perpetrator?
Yeah, well, you're talking about something.
They love to use the word systemic.
You're talking about a systemic thing.
You bring up one systemic.
And the system must go.
We have to understand the system will go.
This system cannot endure.
America is falling apart.
And Trump can try, and we're glad about that.
And yes, we should use the political system to the extent we can, but it's too late.
The horse is out of the barn.
This should have been done in 1965 or 64.
It's too late now.
If you set every immigrant in the country out of the country, we're still moving into a minority posture where we're going to be living like the farmers in South Africa or the Palestinians in Gaza.
That's what's in store for us and for our descendants.
One last question about this, and I think it's tangentially related to what you're talking about.
And that is, I mean, one of the things that those of us who are trying to be objective in our coverage of Trump and not get too high or too low, but there has been at least some good rhetoric, if not some good concrete actions.
And one of the things is just this gutting of the DEI initiatives and not only just the initiatives that the DEI hires throughout all agencies of the federal government.
I mean, these people really are being fired.
And a lot of the language is changing.
Some of the words that can and cannot be used in official government discourse now have changed in our favor.
And of course, you know, again, one of the things, and it's a criticism that has merit, is that Trump never uses the word white.
But some of these things with regards to DEI are obviously targeting non-whites who don't deserve to be there, by and large.
You know, is that helpful?
How helpful is it?
It helps temporarily.
It helps white guys who are 22 years old and looking for a job.
And they're my brothers, and I don't say that contemptuously, but it's a stopped-out measure.
It doesn't turn the clock back the way it was in 1920.
It doesn't establish a country run the way Israel is run by an ethnic group that discriminates in its own favor, blatantly, and is proud of it, as Israel does.
It goes back to the goo-goo America of liberty and justice for all and no discrimination, that kind of thing that came in in 64.
And you simply can't run countries like that.
Russia has to be run for Russians, not Muslims from the former Soviet republics, like we were talking about a while back in your program.
All nations are the result of conquests.
When the colonists arrived in the 1600s to the North America, the Cherokee Indians they met were not original inhabitants that evolved from monkeys tens of thousands of years ago in North Georgia and Western North Carolina.
They had been mountain builders, but the Cherokees conquered them and killed them all.
They didn't create reservations for them.
And this is the brutal reality.
I'm not happy about it.
I wish the world were different, and we certainly can try to avoid the brutality.
But there is no element, no group on earth that has the right to point accusing fingers at other people.
All of us came from other places and took over the turf we're on now.
That's just the brutal reality of it.
And until white people get out of this weird delusion that has governed them, not merely in the last 10 or 15 years, but for centuries, the ultimate result is going to be bad.
Well, we will wait and see what happens and what role we can play in it for the betterment of our people as we attempt to pivot to survive, to endure, and carry on.
And we have every right, as the Jews say of themselves, they have a right to a Jewish state.
We have a right to a white European state that is equal to that that the Jews claim to themselves.
And we will get it.
Okay, not going to be easy, but I have faith that we will, our descendants will get it.
Amen.
And when they do, one of these monuments that has been taken down, perhaps to be replaced with one to Sam Dixon, and I want to thank him again.
It's not important enough, and I don't want any monuments.
I'm happy to heal.
Well, nevertheless, thank you.
Thank you.
And you're a special group.
God bless you all.
God bless you, Sam, and God bless Charles Balzman, our first hour guest in Russia, Simon Roche, South Africa in the second hour.
Rich Hamblin for joining us in that second hour as well.
And thank you to a lady who I had the opportunity to talk with this week for the first time.
She sent a wonderful movie over to us, St. Patrick the Irish Legend.
We watched it together as a family earlier this week as walked around the world, continues, and concludes next week.