Feb. 1, 2025 - The Political Cesspool - James Edwards
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And here to guide you through the murky waters of the political cesspool is your host, James Edwards.
So, you know, as we continue tonight, folks, a sense of euphoria continues to settle as a result of the actions that have taken place over the course of the last two weeks by the new Trump administration.
And we're going to continue to talk with the most informed and seasoned analyst that we have, none more so than Mark Weber, the director for the Institute of Historical Review.
He is going to offer his analysis on the rapid-fire stream of directives and executive orders that we have seen over the course of the last couple of weeks before discussing the broader topic of American identity.
There is still so much ground to cover tonight, but we will first say hello.
Mark, welcome back.
Your first appearance of the new year, 2025, and what a year it's been so far.
How are you tonight?
All the way over there in California.
Thank you very much.
Thanks, James.
It's a great pleasure to be on again.
Yeah, what a year this has been, and what a year I think it will be.
We're only at the beginning of the roller coaster.
And as they say, strap on your seatbelts.
There's a lot more coming.
I think that'll be very exciting in the months ahead.
Let me just give you this.
I agree, of course.
And it's so interesting because, you know, after 20-plus years in this, in my own right, I say often that all of that naivete and youthful naivete from decades past has been zapped away by reality.
And that's, of course, what happens as one ages and matures and grows and learns and experiences.
But I do think it's interesting to take a poll of some of our most regular guests and contributors and to see where they are standing.
I realize it's two weeks.
That is not a term.
That is just a few days.
But to see where the consensus is beginning to form.
I want to, very quickly, Mark, just roll through a few headlines here and get your response to this because we are going to transition into a broader discussion on American identity.
But I think vis-a-vis immigration, that's a pretty good starting point.
Headline here reads, Trump says he will be signing an executive order to send the worst of the United States illegals to Guantanamo Bay in a 30,000-bed facility.
Another headline, illegal immigrant tells other migrants not to go to the United States because it's not worth it after they were deported back to Columbia.
Quote, don't go, don't go because they're deporting all of us.
They've already sent soldiers to the border.
Another headline, President Trump orders ICE to increase arrests per day up from previous quotas, an increased 1,800 arrests per day.
Another one, you could see it happen, is the headline, illegal aliens being boarded onto a military plane in El Paso.
They're being deported.
A soldier says we can have these illegal homes anywhere in South America in just a few hours.
Caroline Levette, the White House press secretary, says deportions, deportations rather, will not stop and will continue to increase in numbers, she says.
And I quote, while this has been a great start, we will not get complacent, end quote.
Tom Homan says the deportations must grow.
Jesse Waters on Fox News, are you satisfied with the pace of migrant deportations?
Tom Homan, no, we've got to do more.
Mark, let's start there.
That is, have you ever seen anything like this in your life?
Yeah, well, this is all good.
It's all positive.
I share everyone's excitement about this.
I'm happy about it, of course.
This is long overdue.
This problem has been in place in America for decades.
We've had 30, 40, 50 years of millions of illegal aliens in the United States, and both parties have failed to really deal with it.
Both parties have pretended for decades that the problem didn't even really exist.
And Trump is now addressing it, and as he said he would.
Now, as he said he would, is this going to be 100,000, 1 million, 10 million people?
We don't know.
In fact, the government isn't quite sure how many illegal aliens there are in the United States.
So this is all good.
However, I have both the advantage and the disadvantage of being older, I think, than many others who are listening to this show or have been on the show.
And I've seen over my lifetime tremendous enthusiasm for presidents who have been very conservative.
And people have been very excited.
This was true of, especially of Ronald Reagan.
He was a far more popular conservative than Donald Trump.
In fact, Donald Trump doesn't rarely call himself a conservative.
Ronald Reagan did.
But Ronald Reagan, when we step back, in spite of the enormous enthusiasm of his administration and the support he had, much greater than Donald Trump has in the country, at the end of it all, what really changed?
In fact, the problem got worse.
Ronald Reagan announced three million, some illegal aliens, the vast majority who were here in the country at that time.
He was a great disappointment to the world.
That's what really happened.
And even if, and I think it will happen, Donald Trump will deport many people.
I've made the point many times.
Even if all illegal immigration stopped tomorrow and he built this big wall, he doesn't talk about the wall anymore.
But if he built a big wall and we stopped all illegal immigration and we deported a million or two million or three million, the basic problem and the trajectory would not change.
The same basic problem would not only continue, but it would get worse.
I mean, as exciting as all this is right now, Donald Trump was elected because Americans have been very unhappy about this issue.
But the leaders of our country haven't really addressed this issue until it becomes one that no one can ignore in any city or neighborhood or part of the United States.
For many, many years, the problem was ignored because it didn't affect people in their own neighborhoods.
We knew that there were many people in the United States here illegally, but as long as most people weren't affected by it personally, they didn't really do very much.
And that's the failure of leadership of both parties for many, many years.
But on the other hand, Mark, that was what people like Ron Hannis did.
They brought the immigrants to Martha's Vineyard and places like that.
And I think that popularizes that.
Now nobody can ignore it.
And Donald Trump was elected because these problems, which he pointed out, which he talked about, which he highlighted, are problems that no one could ignore.
And that's why he was elected.
Now, what he'll really do is another thing.
You know, during his inaugural address, he only mentioned one American president favorably.
Not George Washington, not Thomas Jefferson.
The one president he mentioned was William McKinley.
Now, William McKinley was most famous, not for tariffs, but for the Spanish-American War.
And that was enormously popular.
It made America great, in a sense.
The Spanish-American War made America for the first time an imperial country.
We acquired Philippines, Puerto Rico, control of Cuba because of that war.
Americans are very happy because they beat Spain, which was very much a declining power.
Now, America was, quote-unquote, greater as a result of that Spanish-American war, but was it better?
The United States acquired Puerto Rico.
Is the United States a better country because we acquired Puerto Rico?
Puerto Ricans are U.S. citizens.
Products made in Puerto Rico are said to be made in the USA.
But is that really what America is?
Is that what we want?
Is that what's really better for us in the long run?
I don't think so.
But my point is, it was enormously popular at the time.
And Ronald Reagan was enormously popular at the time.
But the basic problems that we're talking about and that everyone's aware of actually got worse in the country as a result of their policies, as popular as they were with those people who said their policies are making America great again.
Mark, this is Keith.
Let me turn it on to you.
If you could work your will, what would you do differently from what Trump's doing now?
And give us some examples.
The big difference is that Trump doesn't, he's not explicit about the most important thing.
He doesn't talk about race.
He wants to make America great, but he doesn't have any concern for the race that made America.
In his inaugural address, he expressed gratitude for the support in his campaign by blacks and by Hispanics, at least insofar as they did support him.
And it was larger than it had been in the past, in the previous run.
But he didn't express any appreciation for the support of white Americans.
White working class people voted for Donald Trump, but he didn't express any support for that.
Now, why is that?
It's not because he's anti-white, but because, like so many Americans, they take race for granted.
They're not explicit about it.
They sort of had this idea that American greatness and what's good for white Americans are the same thing.
They're not, because now the population of America is no longer overwhelmingly white.
But white Americans, and I think Donald Trump and Elon Musk and JD Vance, they sort of had this idea that if America is great, this will be good for white Americans.
It's not the same thing.
It's not that Trump is anti-white.
He's indifferent.
And that's the essential problem.
What I would have him do differently is be explicit about the issue of race.
Now, he can do it in a way that's not offensive, but he doesn't even mention it.
In fact, he doesn't even seem to care about it.
At least that's what he says.
He prays also.
It's a conditioned reflex.
Please?
I think it's a conditioned reflex.
He doesn't, he's been burnt on that third rail before, and he doesn't want to do it right.
Hold on, we're going to take a quick break, gentlemen.
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It is Mark Weber.
He is an accomplished historian, lecturer, current affairs analyst, and author.
He was educated in the United States and Europe and holds a master's degree in modern European history.
He is so good, in fact, we can't keep him off the program.
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We do not hold your age against you.
Well, he may be younger than you, Keaton.
That's impossible.
Well, I'm younger than Donald Trump.
Very good.
Very good.
And still decades left in you.
And your acuity and your ability is as sharp as ever.
Now, I want to go through this, though.
So here is where we're at.
A birthright citizenship is under assault.
Border crossings have plummeted to nearly zero.
I mean, the word is getting out.
ICE and DHS are raiding sanctuary cities for a change.
Homan saying we're going to arrest mayors.
We'll see if that happens.
I'd love to see it happen.
Foreign leaders like the president of Colombia have been absolutely buckbroken by Trump and humiliated, really.
Refugee resettlement GOs like World Relief are howling in pain.
The mayor of Minneapolis is flirting with being arrested.
Tom Homan is being criticized for one thing for not deporting enough illegal aliens.
And so the quota is being raised.
I will tell you this.
Jared called me last night, Jared Taylor.
He called me last night about 6 o'clock.
And he said, I'm just so happy.
I just thought I needed to call somebody.
And I said, wow, that's great, Jared.
What are you happy about?
He goes, I think it's Donald Trump.
This is Jared Taylor.
Okay.
So another one of the top three most interviewed guests all time, along with Mark Weber.
So, you know, when Jared Taylor is saying things like that, and we had a great discussion, we'd been talking this week.
Another regular said on his website this week, Mark, we have lived through a long night.
The sun is rising now.
This is what it's like to experience dawn.
What you said in the previous segment certainly is something that we did mention.
Rather, I mentioned in my opening monologue last week that, yes, that whole bit that Donald Trump did in his inaugural address, thanking the blacks and the Hispanics and so on and so forth for voting for him.
And everyone, frankly, except the people who actually got him elected, that was ridiculous.
So was the minstrel show and the closing prayer and all of that.
But In the past, we have looked for dog whistles to try to convince us that this candidate was worthy of support.
This is a little bit different this time.
It's not so much the rhetoric, it is the actions, and the actions.
The actions are compelling.
So, again, how do you where do you fall on all of this, Mark?
I mean, what you're saying is entirely true on point.
James, that's all true.
Remember, Donald Trump has changed himself over his lifetime.
When he, as you remember, when he first ran for president to try to get the nomination of the Reform Party, he thought his ideal vice presidential candidate would have been Oprah Winfrey.
And he praised Martin Luther King in his inaugural address.
Look, what he's being driven by is an overwhelming sense of the American people that this has to be dealt with.
You know, it's incredible.
The opposition to birthright citizenship is overwhelming, even among non-whites in America.
By blacks, Hispanics, everybody thinks that the idea that somebody can come here eight and a half months pregnant, get on an airplane, stay at a hotel, have a baby, and then the child is automatically a citizen is nuts.
It's obviously, I mean, there's a widespread consensus.
Donald Trump is, in fact, being driven by his own supporters and the realization that millions of Americans have that we have to draw a line of sand.
The direction America has been going on for many years has been wrong.
You know, this idea of birthright citizenship was a stupid, is an absurdity and has been since the 14th Amendment was passed in the 1860s.
But politicians of neither party have made a big deal of it.
And Trump, I thought, if he was really serious, would have been much more serious about that particular issue in his first administration because there's a broad consensus of support for getting rid of birthright citizenship.
But he didn't really do that.
He didn't follow through.
Now, this administration, he's much more proactive than he was in his first administration.
That's all to the good.
That's fine.
I mean, no one who even cares about common sense can disagree with all of that.
I'm only saying, though, that this is only not enough.
Now, I know people will respond and say, well, Mark, Mr. Reber, you just want perfection.
No, I don't want perfection.
I'm only cautioning about what's going on.
Now, having said that, though, the discussion is now changing.
People are talking about race.
They're talking about DEI.
They're talking about affirmative action policies in a way that hasn't been talked about in America for years.
And even greater, in a sense, is that the defenders of all of that, the, you might say, liberal, democratic, whatever bastions that have supported, they're cowed.
They don't know what to say.
There's a realization, even by leftists, that their policies have failed.
They don't have a good answer.
Well, what do you do with illegal immigrants?
You let them in, you keep, it's okay.
They don't say that.
They don't know what to say, really.
And that's all to the good.
And the Donald Trump administration, I think, will speed up.
It will strengthen the discussion about the issues that really matter.
Donald Trump is just one milestone on a path that's a long one and needs to be taken.
That's going to be a long and difficult one.
It will go on for a long time.
And I'm looking ahead, not just for the next year, the next months, or four years.
I'm trying to look beyond even the Donald Trump administration because the country is still moving in a direction of being not only more and more non-European and more and more of a third world country, this will be reflected in policy.
And whites are either right now or will be very soon a minority.
That has consequences.
And even though Donald Trump was elected, barely, I mean, but he was elected and he's doing things, that's not enough.
Now, I know people will say, well, what do you expect?
You can't expect that it's going to do everything.
That's true.
And of course, what he does do that's positive is all to the good.
I'm just saying that the principles on the basis that are the foundation of his policies have to be firmly in place.
And that's not quite what's happening yet.
Mark, one thing that I've noticed that has happened, I believe, and it's really independent of Trump, is that liberalism has lost that mystique and that aura that it had through most of your and my lifetime.
You know, if somebody said something like birthright citizenship, they say, oh, that sounds liberal.
I've got to walk very carefully about this thing.
You know, and it was kind of like despair.
Can we actually mount a successful defense against this because it's cloaked in that aura of liberalism?
I think they basically lost it.
They lost this kind of mystique when they tried to make sexual perversity a civil right.
And since then, basically, people are not cowed by this mystique of liberalism.
They're basically going after it.
That's right.
And that's all to the good.
There's a realization that the path that we've been on for many decades was wrong.
And liberals, in a certain sense, now they're the ones on the defensive.
They don't have good answers to what should be done.
And this awareness that the trajectory we've been on for many years is a failure, that they're not based on reality, that's not just true in America.
That's true throughout Western Europe and the white world.
There's a realization that if you try to make policies based on these sort of utopian, egalitarian, universalist principles, they will inevitably fail because the principles are wrong.
That awareness is growing everywhere.
And Donald Trump is contributing to it.
Now, if Kamala Harris had been elected, there would be much less euphoria, but maybe that would force awareness in another way.
Who knows?
But the point is, it's all to the good.
I mean, things are moving in the direction almost inevitably they have to, because people can ignore reality, but they can't ignore the consequences of reality.
And everyone in America today can see the consequences of the policies we've had for the last 40, 50, 60 years.
And they don't like it.
People don't like it.
Even liberals don't like it.
Even they flee from third world areas of the United States.
And that's why they're on the end.
And so, but what has to replace it isn't just policies are good.
That's all fine.
But an awareness of the kind of country we do want to have.
Mark, we're going to transition in the next segment into American identity, a recent talk you gave to an IHR meeting.
But if we can work this in under the wire, and we have just seconds remaining, you pointed out something that should be revisited.
The Donald Trump of 2000 called Pat Buchanan a Nazi.
He ran for the Reform Party nomination to Buchanan's left, to his hard left.
And then in 2016, he was basically aping Pat's positions on almost every issue that propelled him to the presidency.
That's been well documented by our friend Warren Baylog and by mainstream reporters.
But it is, and I would agree, by the way, that whoever is calling for Pat Buchanan to be awarded the Presidential Medal of Freedom, that cannot happen quickly enough.
But we have also seen a transformation, not just from the 2000 Trump to the 2016 Trump, but also the 2017 Trump to the 2025 Trump.
What do you think has caused this change?
This is a very different start.
That's true.
And that gets into something about Donald Trump's character and personality.
I think he learned already in 2000, year 2000, year 2016, what resonates with people.
I think he was surprised at when he starts.
Probably the greatest moment for me and many people was a very important moment was in 2016.
During the early presidential Republican primary debates, he turned over to Jeb Bush and he said, your father lied us into war.
Now, that was a real startling moment because politicians aren't supposed to say things like that to anybody.
They're supposed to be so tap around.
Hold on, Mark, the truth.
I hate to interrupt you on this point, but I will come back to this.
What has changed between Trump, not just from 2000 to 2016, but from 2017 to 2025?
Mark Webb will continue his answer next.
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I'm looking at the guests who have already been on the program so far, and it's astounding.
And it continues tonight, this first day of February, with Mark Weber, a dear friend and favorite guest.
And before, Mark, we transition into the broader topic of American identity.
You recently lectured about this subject at an IHR meeting in California.
I would want to give you the opportunity to conclude your thoughts on while the Trump reimagining from the year 2000 to 2016 has been well documented, what has happened between 2017 and the first Trump administration and 2025 and what we've seen in these last two weeks is so simple as he's whipped the GOP into his camp that he's got the Supreme Court that is a little bit more favorable.
How do you reconcile it?
I mean, we're getting into Donald Trump's mindset, how his brain works, how he thinks.
Donald Trump has always said he wants to be a winner.
He wants to be remembered for being a great guy.
He puts his name on buildings.
He put his name on a university, on stakes, on an airline.
And he wants this administration to be one that people will remember.
And I suspect what's happened is he wants to make his mark with this second administration.
And also, he's driven by his own supporters.
He's become the, even you might say in spite of himself, the leader of a large movement that is saying no to what's been happening in America over the past, since the end of the Second World War up until recently, you could say.
And so my suspicion, my sense is he wants to be remembered as a, quote, great American president.
And that's why he, I don't think there's any speech I've ever seen by an American president, not only president, but politician, or maybe any leader in the world, as so packed with extravagant promises, huge, sweeping promises, as Donald Trump's inaugural address.
It was astonishing.
America's declined.
It'll be the great golden age that's dawning.
He even promised that under his administration, there won't be wars anywhere in the world, he said at one point.
He even said, impossible is what America does, he said.
I mean, those are pretty extravagant statements.
And that's the way Donald Trump is.
He wants to make his mark.
And so he's hit the ground running with this new administration in a way he did not do at all in his first administration.
And we've seen, as you mentioned, a change in Donald Trump over the years.
He used to be a Democrat.
He used to support the Democratic Party.
And he's changed in large measure, I think, driven by the logic of his own campaign and by the expectations and the hopes of those people who voted for him and who support him and who support the Republicans that they've elected who also support him in the Congress.
I think those are probably the main reasons why he's changed so much and why this administration is a much more active one than his first administration.
A very interesting analysis indeed and spot on, I might add.
Let's try.
I think he's been defied.
He's been oppressed to such a degree that he just could not ignore it and he's come out swinging.
That's a good point, too.
I mean, what about that, Mark?
Very quickly.
That's true.
I mean, Donald Trump, based on what we know about his character, he doesn't like to be dissed.
He doesn't like to be put down by other people.
He's pushed around.
Yeah, I mean, he has a right to be.
I mean, he was just unbelievably, horribly defamed, treated, and so forth.
I mean, I don't think any of the Democrats who during the campaign called him a fascist really meant that at all.
They just throw out these kind of things.
Now, Donald Trump does it himself, but he's not a thick-skinned guy.
He remembers who insults him.
He remembers who dissed him, and he wants payback, and he's doing it.
Yeah, he's swinging.
He's angry.
He doesn't like the way he's been treated.
And Americans don't like the way they've been treated by the state and by the Democratic Party and by leaders of both parties for so many years.
All right, Mark, let me ask you this.
Moving forward.
And we must.
New York Times headline.
Trump flood the zone.
Excuse me.
Trump's flood the zone strategy leaves opponents gasping in outrage.
This, again, the New York Times in the opening paragraph reads.
One of the architects of Mr. Trump's rapid pace strategy is Stephen Miller, the Deputy White House Chief of Staff for Policy, who has pushed the flood the zone tactic.
Mr. Miller believes that those he regards as Mr. Trump's enemies have limited bandwidth for opposition.
And he has told people that the goal is to overwhelm them with a blitz of activity.
I said in the previous hour that Stephen Miller may be the most important man in the world right now.
He said on an interview this week that there's 2 million employees in the federal government.
Overwhelmingly, the career federal service in this country is far left, left-wing.
And to that end, President Trump sent an email to all federal employees.
And I quote, type the word resign into the subject line of the email, then hit send.
He's offering all of them buyouts because they are aware of this fact.
And then you have the eight months of paid for their buyout.
And then you have the mayor of Minneapolis on the other side, Mark, telling criminal immigrants, quote, we love you.
We care about you.
You are not an alien in our city.
You're a neighbor.
Our police officers will not be cooperating with the federal government.
So this gets into the topic of American identity.
You have two very different schools of thought here.
Which side's going to win?
Is Trump going to have enough mock to cut federal monies going to places like Minneapolis that are defying his efforts to send the illegal immigrants back home?
Well, this whole idea of sanctuary cities and sanctuary states, I live in a sanctuary state, California, Oregon, where I come from, where I was born and raised, is a sanctuary state.
If that was done by any, you might say conservatives, that would be considered just terrible.
It's actually absurd for a city or a state to have its own policies different than those of the country they live in.
There was a civil war that's supposed to have decided that issue, by the way.
But when liberals do it, it's considered, well, their motives are good.
They're concerned about humanity, so I guess that's okay in many states.
But it's an absurdity.
It should have been roundly condemned, even at the time, by people, no matter what their party, because no society can function if every city and every state has its own ideas, which laws ought to be enforced and which laws should not be enforced.
Unless you go back to the nullification arguments of John C. Calhoun.
That's right.
That's right.
But the interesting thing is, Democrats didn't criticize it.
They applauded it.
And Republicans didn't say much about it.
They didn't like it, but they should have been much more principled than they were.
And that's a real problem in America across the board, is the lack of principle by both parties.
But I want to get to this thing of identity because when we're all talking about the subject we're talking about, deporting people and so forth, it really, ultimately, this is an identity question.
Are people American if they're American citizens and they're only to be deported if they're not U.S. citizens?
Is that really the issue?
Or another way to put it, who's our people?
Is our people everyone who's a U.S. citizen?
Well, most white Americans sort of think, yeah, I guess so.
But they're vague about it.
And so's Donald Trump.
Are Puerto Ricans Americans?
Are they our people?
Well, no, they're not.
They're not white people.
I'm just asking the language of Spanish.
I mean, but they're U.S. citizens.
And therein lies a big problem because America has already changed from its idea of what it was when the founders made America and what Americans and the world assumed up until the 1940s or 50s or 60s.
Up until the 40s, 50s, 60s, and up until that period, it was just assumed.
America is a white country.
It's a European country.
It's a Western country.
It's a Christian country.
That was just taken for granted.
But Americans even before that were ambivalent about it.
They weren't explicit about it, or at least not explicit enough.
So they said, well, okay, we don't want to be harsh about it.
And that's the sort of tragedy, that ambiguity, that lack of precision, that lack of being forthright has led to the situation we are today.
Donald Trump in his inaugural address praised Martin Luther King.
Well, is he a great American?
both Republicans and Democrats, have voted to make Martin Luther King Day a national holiday and a holiday in every state of the Union.
Now, even though...
Well, we're about to find out, Mark, when they, in 2027 or possibly before now, they open those FBI files and let us know the real Martin Luther King.
Well, we already know enough about the real Martin Luther King that he shouldn't have been anyway.
But more remarkable than that is he is the only American that has a national holiday.
Is he really more important than George Washington or Thomas Jefferson?
They used to be, Americans used to celebrate Washington's birthday.
Or Mark Weber.
I mean, frankly, or Mark Weber.
They now have this flabby thing called President's Day, which means, I guess, that Polk and Pierce are just as important as Washington or Theodore Roosevelt.
It's crazy.
Millard Fillmore was important.
Pierce was.
How about Millard Philmon?
Millard Filmmore.
Chester A. Arthur.
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You know where the solution can be found, Mr. President?
In churches, in wedding chapels, in maternity wards across the country and around the world.
More babies will mean forward-looking adults, the sort we need to tackle long-term large-scale problems.
American babies in particular are likely going to be wealthier, better educated, and more conservation-minded than children raised in still industrializing countries.
As economist Tyler Cowan recently wrote, quote, by having more children, you're making your nation more populous, thus boosting its capacity to solve climate change.
The planet does not need for us to think globally and act locally so much as it needs us to think family and act personally.
The solution to so many of our problems at all times and in all places is to fall in love, get married, and have some kids.
Great to be back with Mark Weber, director of the Institute for Historical Review, one of the most venerable organizations in the world, really, but certainly on our side.
And I would encourage you to make it a daily read of yours.
I know, Keith, you are there every day.
The quality of those articles is second to none.
I'm just going to have to congratulate you on that, Mark.
I read it every day, and it's just, you know, that and the Barnes Review and a few other things are just perfect.
You know, they're a credit to our movement, and you need to get plenty of credit for that.
Well, and deservedly so.
Well, thank you.ihr.org is the website.
Be sure to support it.
And Mark Weber, I mean, above and beyond that, above and beyond the Institute, his value as a commentator and an analyst and a commentator.
Whatever you say, it's just one of the best reads in the dissident right.
There's no question about it.
Whatever your euphemism, ihr.org.
Mark, let's give you a wide berth here.
The last segment of the hour.
And already, we're looking forward to our next engagement with you.
But American identity, Trump, what is left of the resistance and how quickly will the resistance reform?
That's another question we really haven't even gotten into yet.
With any seconds into a whole new field.
You know, the reason, the trigger for the talk that I gave on that subject was a comment that Tucker Carlson made in a recent interview.
And he said, he says, I don't understand.
We won in the Second World War.
The West won.
We were for Western civilization.
The West won in the Second World War.
And now our cities look like they were in the Second World War.
I mean, he said, so I don't understand.
This is very, he called it very heavy.
This is very heavy.
I don't understand that.
Well, this prompted me to emphasize the Second World War and the trajectory America's been on for a long time.
And I dug up and I quoted how when President Roosevelt was speaking, was president during the Second World War, he addressed this very subject.
He says, we're not fighting for Western civilization.
We're fighting for a new world civilization, he said.
That's what he said during the Second World War.
And most Americans just didn't pay attention to it.
They just assumed, well, we're West, we're a European, we're white, it's all going to work out.
But that's not what Roosevelt said at the time.
He was listening to the commies in his government too closely.
Well, that's what he believed.
I don't know if he didn't need much prodding from commies or anybody else's administration.
This was his worldview.
And because he was Under Secretary of the Navy during the Wilson administration, in which Wilson had this kind of globalist idea, we're going to make the world better and we're for the world.
And Roosevelt took it one step further.
And then I quoted how Ronald Reagan, in an address he made accepting the nomination of the Republican Party, he said explicitly, America is great because it's a passion of freedom.
And we welcome people from everywhere in the world who are victims of oppression and poverty wherever they're from, including Haiti, he said.
Now, he got a big applause.
People like to hear that.
But what does that mean?
That means millions of people will be coming to America from Haiti and Somalia and the most dysfunctional nation in the Western Hemisphere.
Well, okay, but my point is Americans have applauded this universalist, this egalitarianist universalist ideology for many, many years, going back certainly to the 1940s and even under Ronald Reagan, who was arguably the most popular Republican president of modern times.
Well, even into the Wilson administration.
Right.
And going back to, but my point is, well, even the Wilson administration didn't go as far as Roosevelt and of Ronald Reagan about redefining who we Americans are.
I mean, my point, this has been in place for a long time and has been embraced by both parties.
And whether George W. Bush was like this, and my bigger criticism is that this ambiguity about identity has been fatal, a fatal defect in the American history, you might say, since the Second World War, certainly since the 1940s.
And that's something we have to really confront and deal with.
Because until we understand who we are, what we really means, and what it should mean, then all these problems will really not only not go away, they'll get worse.
That's kind of my basic point here.
Identity is important.
Now, another problem, I mean, related to this is the fact that Americans have just sort of assumed, well, it's a sort of a white country, and we don't have to be explicit about it.
My big point is it's too late.
We can't afford to be not explicit.
That time has passed, and the years ahead, I think, will require people to be much more explicit because they're being forced to be so.
We've got to have identity politics.
There's no question about it.
If we do not have identity politics, we are doomed as a people.
That's right.
That's right.
Unless people are clear about their identity, nothing will work.
As they say, a ship that doesn't know what harbor it's going to, no direction is the right direction.
And that's what America, we want the ship to be seaworthy, but until we know where we're going, until we know what harbor we're headed to, it's going to be a kind of fruitless, sad situation.
And that's really years ahead to be more explicit and more overt, more focused on what's really important.
All right, Mark, bringing it back to full, bringing it back into focus in widescreen, the full hour, bringing it all back home here, in your opinion.
And all we can do is offer that opinion as we sit here this evening on the night of February the 1st.
This isn't an opinion that will hold true a year from now or five years from now or a decade from now or a generation from now.
But as we sit here tonight, have you, we, in your opinion, reached a pivot point?
Is the trajectory changing or are we getting a little bit too far?
It's going to be a lot of fun.
Hold on, hold on, hold on.
Are we getting too far ahead of ourselves?
It's only been two good weeks after all.
No, no.
The pivot point that's been reached is this.
The pivot point is a realization that the post-war order, the liberal democratic order, the order that was set up after the Second World War by the United States and for a while with the Soviet Union, is failing.
It's falling apart.
It's wrong and it's leading us down the Primrose Path to hell.
But the big difference is people now recognize it.
Now it's recognized.
You know, the other day, the former Prime Minister of Britain, Liz Truss, she said Britain is a failed state.
Now, I mean, if a leftist or a rightist commentator had said that, that wouldn't raise any eyebrows.
But when a prime minister of Britain, a former prime minister says that, that carries some weight.
There's a realization.
Britain is dying.
White America, the West is dying.
And it's dying because it hasn't been embracing or specific and affirming who it really is.
As long as you're not going to be able to play.
Let's just say what it is.
Racial identity is what they don't have any.
The pivot has been reached.
And we're seeing this trend.
The very fact that Donald Trump was elected and that nationalist parties are now extraordinarily popular in a way they weren't in the past in France, in Germany, in Italy.
Hungary.
These are big, big changes.
And they will become even more pronounced.
This trend will become even more obvious in the months and the years ahead.
Well, Mark, I can tell you this.
We look forward to continuing to discuss these matters with you as things progress, as they always will, as they inevitably must do over the course of the coming months and years and over the course of the next four years of this administration, as we have done for the last 20 years.
We look forward to having you on regularly to help us assess it and analyze it.
ihr.org, ladies and gentlemen, Roger Devlin is up next, completing a TPC trifecta.
David Zetty, Mark Weber, Roger Devlin, three of our favorites.
Mark, the last word is yours.
If there's anything left in your tank tonight, you've got a minute.
Speak now forever.
Hold your peace.
The point, I guess, is that these trends are taking place, and the future belongs to those people who understand these trends, what they mean, and become leaders in that.
And are bold enough to speak out on the issues.
Right.
And the political success pool is playing an important role in this.
It might seem a very dissident thing right now, but we can be enormously encouraged by the fact that our outlook is based on reality and that of our adversaries is based on illusion.
That's the big tremendous encouragement from the fact that we're on the side of history and of life and of human beings as they really are, not as people are.
It's really not even illusion.
It's falsehood is what we're doing.
Well, I will say this to that, Mark, is that I never had any doubt that we were right, even in the dark days.
I mean, 20 years ago, could you imagine at the height of the neocon power structure 20 years ago when we were first getting started?
I still even then never had any doubt that we were right, that we were entirely right.
Everything was on our side.
Well, there seems to be a sense of validation that we can all enjoy right now.
And to imagine the opportunities that are now perhaps open that were closed to us prior to this, where we are going, it gives you hope.
It opens up the imagination.
I can't wait to explore it together with you, Mark.
Hopefully the liberal experiment in America and the West is over.
IHR.org.
Mark, 15 seconds.
It's yours.
Well, thank you very much.
Yes.
And I guess I can only say I wish I were 20, 30, 40 years younger because these are exciting times.
And I can see now the fruits, you might say, of the kind of work that many of us have been doing for many years is more and more obvious.
And that's a very encouraging thing, especially the occurrence of so many younger people who get it all, who understand the situation.
If we cross into the promised land, we won't forget you, Moses.