Nov. 9, 2024 - The Political Cesspool - James Edwards
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You're listening to the Liberty News Radio Network, and this is the Political Cesspool.
The Political Cesspool, known across the South and worldwide as the South's foremost populist conservative radio program.
And here to guide you through the murky waters of the Political Cesspool is your host, James Edwards.
I have got notes all over the place here on this live remote broadcast, our last trip of the year.
It has been a busy year.
It has been a wonderful year.
Our 20th anniversary year, 20 years doing this.
And as I said the other day, the other day, as I said earlier tonight, but it was the other day on Election Day on Tuesday, Tuesday, late morning, early afternoon, I was talking with Pat Buchanan's former communications director.
Of course, it was nearly a quarter century ago that I got my start on the Buchanan campaign.
24 years ago, November of 2000, that election ended.
And so that was my entry into this whole thing.
And through a few twists and turns and twist of fates and the hand of God, I ended up in radio, but it was all a direct result of what happened 25 years ago now.
And I was still in touch with some of these folks, and they are wonderful.
A lot of them have died.
But in any event, election time is always a fun time, and it's certainly more fun when the left feels as though they have lost.
We're going to have a lot of fun now between now and the end of the year, and then we'll go into the next Trump administration.
If he can survive that long, I am not entirely sure that he's going to have an unimpeded march to January.
I mean, after all they've put him through, we'll see.
We'll see.
Have we seen the end of all of it?
Are they just going to really just back off now and just let him take power again?
Who knows?
That's hope.
But we'll see.
But no matter what, the work must continue.
And the need, the necessity of continuing to build and reinforce and fortify our institutions and organizations and media continues.
It does not stop because the worst of the two candidates lost.
It does not stop at all because at the end of the day, there is no reconciliation between one half of this country and the other.
There will be no coming back together or understanding.
It just is not going to happen.
It cannot happen.
By nature itself, it cannot happen.
And so for that reason and many others, I am proud that there are organizations like this newly minted, and I mean brand new as of today, the Southern Nationalist League, Southernat League.com on the internet.
Check it out.
Join up.
Give your contact information so they can stay in touch with you.
And we've talked with Michael Hill, who is the president of this new organization, and also in the first hour with Mark Tommy, the executive officer.
Now we've got three great guys who are state chairmen of three individual states.
And the first is from the state of Georgia, which is a very unique southern state.
Please tell us the audience hello and introduce yourself.
Well, hello.
My name is Steve Garrett.
I'm the League of the South and now the Southern National League organization, chairman of the state of Georgia.
Yes, we do a few more other things besides chase peaches, okay?
We are actually into our people.
We are into our movement, and we're very proud to be here tonight to talk to you.
Georgia is an interesting southern state.
It is the only southern state that was in play.
All the other southern states are red, except for Virginia, which you have Washington, D.C. suburbs bring the whole operation down.
So it's blue.
All the other states are red.
Georgia is purple.
It can go either way.
So Georgia is a unique southern state in that regard.
What brought you from Georgia to this private invitation-only meeting today?
Well, being a state chairman, I could not refuse.
You know, Michael Hill is putting this on.
It is the launch, as you have said, James, of our brand new organization.
So there's no way I can miss this.
And I'm very happy to be here.
The state of Georgia, what was very unique about Georgia is almost everybody voted way ahead of time.
There's a lot of kind of suspicion, you know, because Georgia truly is a red state, okay?
And unfortunately, what they're doing to us, you know, people think it's blue, but it's not.
It is a red state all the way.
Got a lot of non-Southerners colonizing the Atlanta area, though, to be sure.
I mean, you've got the blacks who are always going to vote, you know, majority Democrat, even still this year.
80-20 hitting the win, guys.
That's still a big loss with black males.
And I think if you had black female, it was something like 85-15 overall.
So the blacks didn't accept Trump.
They did a little less worse than they normally do.
So they almost vote unanimously and monolithically for the Democrats.
But you've got a lot of non-Southerners coming into the Atlanta area now, and that's weighing down too.
But you flipped it again.
So what was the difference between 20 and 24 that got this thing back on the other side?
It was pure fear.
I mean, it was pure fear.
You took one look at this person, this individual called Kamala, and where did they unearth this individual?
I have no understanding.
I mean, it really put the fear in Georgia.
And so I think people that never voted for Trump came out.
I mean, the voting early was what really shocked the state of Georgia.
Republicans embraced early voting for the first time ever.
Absolutely.
They came out way ahead of time, and they were just, I mean, the voting booths were totally filled up and lines in front long before Tuesday.
Why?
I mean, you said the fear, you said that, but what were they voting for?
They were actually more than anything, they were voting, in my opinion, against.
Okay.
Well, I mean, yeah, something happened because something caused these people who did not vote in 20 to come back out for Trump in 24.
Absolutely.
And I'm not discounting voter fraud.
That very well probably was a factor, but there was something definitely that changed this year.
And frankly, with fraud, you could make a case nationwide.
Kamala Harris received more than 10 million less votes than Joe Biden.
Where did those 10 million votes go?
Why didn't they come back out for Kamala, who was even more so-called progressive than Biden?
Where did those 10 million people go?
Do they ever exist to begin with?
I mean, who knows?
But in any event, here you have it.
And another thing that was an interesting and important part of the conversation we had today in this roundtable discussion of this organizational meeting was the difference between rural whites and urban whites.
If you go to Joe and Jane, white rural Georgia citizen.
Do you think you can find common ground?
Do you think you could have a conversation with them about an organization like this and then be receptive?
I truly do.
I mean, unfortunately, there seems to be a lot of misconception and a little bit of fear out there.
I mean, we are an honest, a law-abiding organization.
We are not into illegal activities whatsoever, but the media has played against us very heavy.
And because of this, you know, we do have an uphill climb here.
But I think, you know, when people just suddenly, they give us a listen, they think about what we're about, they read our website, I think it's going to be different this time.
Well, and we talked about that again today.
I'm looking here where we're at in this remote location.
We have actually Fox News on here while we're broadcasting live.
So it's about 8.15 Central, 915 Eastern.
If you're watching Fox, you see Tom Cotton on the air right now.
But looking at Trump's family, that is a remarkable looking family.
Nevertheless, Baron Trump's about seven feet tall now.
Then you have Melania and even Don Jr. who threw me under the bus a little bit.
All these guys.
Remarkable family.
That is something I think also that resonates with folks.
I mean, people can instinctively know who may be them and certainly who is not them.
And the other side was not them.
Kamala Harris, I don't even know if she knows what she is, but she was not them.
Her Jewish husband is not them.
And Tim Walz, this weirdo, you know, white men all of a sudden had a role again in American politics to be the Patsy, to be the simp, the doormat, the joke, the punchline.
That's what he was.
And I think if you just look at one side versus the other, you can mark out some differences.
And for whatever reason, maybe all of those and more, folks came back home this time.
Trump sweeps the swing states and wins the popular vote.
Remarkable.
After the fact that they portrayed him as everything from a criminal, an insurrectionist, a Nazi, all of these things that they thought would not play well with the people, but something happened.
So people in Georgia who may be listening tonight, what do you want them to do?
Well, I want everyone to just basically sit back for a minute and think a little bit about what's going on here.
These Democrats, this crew is not going to disappear.
And they're just not suddenly going to say, gee, we're really happy, you know, to pass the torch on to you.
These people are not through.
So basically, I would put this as kind of using an analogy.
We hit the beach of Normandy.
Now we're going up the hill.
And it may be no less treacherous, but this time we're fighting for the right side.
And we'll be right back.
I want you to sit tight for one more minute after this break.
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I felt that last segment ended before I could give a proper goodbye to our guest right now, our friend who is the Georgia State Chairman of the brand new and good-looking Southern Nationalist League.
Check out the website, please.
SouthernATLeague.com.
And you'll be engrossed.
And if they want, if we have listeners in Georgia who are tuned in tonight and they want to get in contact with you, they can do so through the website.
Absolutely.
Just get a hold of the website.
There's a membership or there's contact numbers.
We'll be more than happy to talk to people, sit down with them, whatever we've got to do, because we are there for our fellow Georgians and actually for the South itself.
Throughout the South, we are one nation, but with different states, and those states need representation too.
That's the way this system works.
We have states, but we are a nation, and our southern nation is what we're talking about tonight.
Well, thank you so much for being on with us.
And it's been great to meet you today and to be able to share in this day together.
And it's gone by fast.
I looked at the clock at one point today.
We were drawing near the end of the agenda.
I said, it's already over.
It was getting close to 4 p.m. when we were to break, and everything went by fast because the conversation was just so productive and fast-paced and everything else.
So who's next?
Who's next in the hot seat?
All right.
I saw this gentleman in the Speakeasy last night, and he was wearing some patches that made me know instantly that he was my friend.
And he's still got this Confederate battle flag patch on his person tonight.
Great to see you.
Welcome.
Thank you, sir.
It's close to the mic.
I have to tell my friend and co-host Keith Alexander every week.
And you're doing it fantastically right there.
So please introduce yourself to the audience and what state you represent here for the Southern Nationalist League.
I'm Gary Solomon.
I'm with Oklahoma and been there since 2001.
You certainly won the award for the gentleman who traveled the farthest today.
But Oklahoma's pretty interesting because it's more red than just about any of the southern states.
What's going on in Oklahoma?
Well, we're a very diverse culture, Indian population and heavily conservative.
You know, I mentioned that earlier with Michael.
We were just going through all of the different exit polling results.
Were you surprised that American Indians voted 64% for Trump?
No, not really.
They're smarter people than you think.
Well, the last general to surrender was one, right, for our side?
Yes, sir.
San Juan.
That's right.
So, but Oklahoma is blood red in ways that even some of our now, of course, they don't have as many blacks as a lot of the southern states do for obvious reasons.
And so that brings down some of the voting percentages in states like Tennessee, which is, you know, in the rural counties, you know, 80, 70, 80 plus percent Republican.
But you've got cities like Memphis that bring down the state total, but it's still overwhelmingly Republican.
Yeah, we're only about 7% black.
So that would probably stand.
But how are you so conservative, though?
I mean, you know, because you have other white states in the Mountain West and in the Pacific Northwest that are probably even whiter than Oklahoma that don't vote that way.
No, but most of Oklahoma was ancestry comes from the deep south.
We're a very southern society, and our traditions are very much similar to the rest of the deep south.
We're without the race problem.
Without the race problem.
That would add up.
I mean, that is a basic but fundamental explanation of why, because I think people look at Oklahoma and say, what's going on here?
Why is it the reddest state in the union or disunion?
But nevertheless, what we call the United States.
I mean, you look at it and it is remarkable, and you've just given the answer.
So why are you a state chairman for the Southern Nationalist League out of Oklahoma?
Well, I was a member, and then Dr. Hill confronted me and wanted more.
Wanted more.
So I took the lead.
And unfortunately, I haven't done real good in the latter few years because of the legal albatross hanging across our neck.
Well, we talked about that today.
We talked about, you know, certainly the league was formed in 1994, and it ceased to exist in 2024.
And in its wake comes a new organization, the Southern Nationalist League.
But as we said before, in 1994, there wasn't this level of discontent.
The timing was just not right.
The circumstances were just not right yet.
Even though our message was right, even though we were right all along, you just have to have a certain amount of realization and timing and circumstance for things to happen.
And that's why the league wasn't able to single-handedly turn the rudder of this nation or even the rudder of the South in the 90s.
And then, of course, even through the Bush years, I can remember the day after 9-11 putting a Confederate flag.
I had a pickup truck at the time.
Putting a Confederate flag on the antenna.
You still had antennas back then.
And putting a Confederate flag because, you know, there was just something about that whole situation on 9-11 that said, we need to be separate.
I mean, something is not right here.
But even through the Bush years and beyond, you still had this rally behind the flag type of thing that you do not have anymore.
And the ground is more fertile now than it ever was for secession for a lot of reasons.
I went into this in my Amerin speech last year, but for a lot of reasons that exists now in ways that it didn't 30 years ago when the league was founded or even 20 years ago or whenever.
And then, of course, the last seven years, the league has been so understandably and justifiably preoccupied with lawfare, the lawfare attacks against them, these unjust attacks for what?
Exercising their First Amendment rights to peaceably assemble and speak that it has been understandably distracted.
But now, now, after all of that, here at the tail end of 2024, you have a new organization, the Southern Nationalist League.
The League of the South is no more.
The Southern Nationalist League is southernatleague.com.
And I'm not so sure, my friend, if, listen, we all wish we could have pushed forward faster and more effectively in years past.
But I'm not so sure now, even with Trump, where there's going to be a little bit of a lull, a little bit of sense of release, there's still going to be the realization that you cannot live with the other side.
And I'm not so sure that the time is not better now than ever before for an organization like this to take hold.
So you say, hey, I look and, you know, maybe I thought we should have done better.
I don't know if you could have, because no matter how good the message, no matter how good the leadership, you have to have the right timing.
Yes, sir.
Yes, sir.
We certainly do.
And I think the timing will get it right now.
Trump is a speed bump.
He'll slow things down for us.
Gives us time to organize.
Yes, sir.
Give us time to organize.
But I think if anything has been proven over the course of the Trump era, is that there are two different Americas.
And at some point, there's going to be once the Republicans are not in power again, which is, well, I say almost a demographic reality.
These Latinos are changing the game a little bit, but the Republic is going to lean into that.
But no matter the fact, you cannot live with this other side.
Even though the Latinos have come over now, which is remarkable.
And I don't know if that was, except for Jose Niño, anybody could have predicted that.
He did.
But you still have two sides that are at odds on a fundamental spiritual level who certainly the other side wants to see us wiped off the map.
I don't see how you can reconcile and have a country with people like that.
We can't reconcile.
There's just no reconciliation available.
You spoke of the Latino problem.
That's a big problem in Oklahoma.
We have 52%.
Even though they're voting Republican now.
We have 52% of our children in the Oklahoma City public schools that does not speak English as a primary language.
That's a great deal of resources and everything else that we're putting toward that we just can't afford.
It is an issue.
And I don't know how many of these people would be affected by some sort of deportation scheme.
And if that actually happens, I mean, you're certainly going to have the media do the guilt trip and there'll be box cars to Auschwitz and all of that stuff that they try to roll out if Trump tries to move any of these people out.
But he should.
We cannot be a dumping ground for the rest of the world.
We cannot be a flop house for people who do not want to assimilate, who are coming here to get freebies and a better way of life at the expense of the people who made this country.
Yes, sir.
The paradise that it once was, and that is Europeans.
Yes, sir.
And I hope he does do some deportations.
Oklahoma wages are so repressed that the jobs are just not there anymore.
So if somebody wants to join up and join you and the Southern Nationalist League Oklahoma state chapter, they can, as we establish, can do so through the website southernatleague.com.
And your name again for the people listening.
Gary Solomon.
Gary Solomon.
If you're in Oklahoma, you'll be in good company if you can reach out to him and be a part of this brand new fledgling organization that is trying to meet the moment.
And we'll talk with James, another James, another bald James from Tennessee next.
Thank you, Gary.
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All right, turning the corner now, and it's going by too fast tonight.
It is going by too fast.
For me, our first show, we could have done this.
We could have stayed.
James swore, could we stay here all night long?
I could.
No problem.
James swore, a man I met for the first time almost a year ago tonight.
We were here and we won't give away the location because we don't want this hotel to be seized upon.
But we are at just the quintessential small town.
This is Main Street, USA here.
Where we're at, this little town we're in, this little hotel we're in tonight.
It looks like Norman Rockwell painted the street lamps outside.
And it's just a wonderful place that I'd never been to before before we were here last year for what was then the League of the South's regional conference and now the Southern Nationalist League's organizing meeting.
But this is fantastic, this place.
And you're the one who put it all together.
Well, yes, where we're at here is indicative of a lot of small southern towns.
And I thought it was fitting for us to meet in this type of environment.
And I'm certainly happy that with the response that we've received.
The results of the presidential election did not change the inevitable, that there is no going back to a country here in North America that is predominantly of one race and one culture and one faith as it was in the 17th and 18th centuries.
That ship has sailed, unfortunately, but it is what it is now because all of these people are here.
So if you cannot live with them, we need to live apart from them.
And you cannot live with them.
They do not want to live with us.
They want to see us cease to exist.
They want to see us either imprisoned or killed.
That's what they want.
They want to wipe us off the map.
So if you cannot live with them in peace, hopefully we can separate from them in peace.
But there is no United States that is ever going to exist again on this continent so long as you have this multicultural, multiracial tower of Babel and so many whites who have given themselves over to the forces of darkness, to the woke ideology.
We can't live and work with them either, no more, no less.
So there needs to be an organization like this, the Southern Nationalist League.
And we'll give out that website again, southernatleague.com.
We talked a lot today about one of the focuses of this organization is to build parallel communities.
We understand we don't have the resources or the power or the leverage yet to sway state governments into secession, although there are tremors in places like Idaho and even Illinois and New Hampshire, where there's already been a vote for secession that failed, but you had double-digit amount of state representatives vote for it.
And in Texas, where a Republican legislator tried to put it on the ballot, there are tremors out there, but there needs to be an organization like this.
Why?
Why?
Because we need representation as a distinct and a distinct people.
And our culture and our heritage is under attack constantly.
We're the whipping boy for other regions.
And we need to band together.
Understanding that what I'd said earlier, certainly we don't have the power and influence yet to compel a state government to secede.
But what you can do and what this organization can do and will do is build parallel communities.
And that was a big part of the talk today.
We've seen that in places like Traveler's Rest and even Wetumka.
Building parallel communities.
What does that mean?
And how can the Southern Nationalist League do that for the benefit of especially rural Southerners who lack representation?
I think we have to realize that we're basically on our own here.
And if we're going to make a go of it, we've got to band together.
We've got to work with each other.
We've got to interact with each other.
We've got to work on our own initiatives.
And we've got to basically we've got to do all of this on our own.
I've been here for two days, and it's just, I think if people don't understand that places like this exist, they need to come out and experience it because we are in a charming, picturesque, very small town.
I don't even know if a town covers it, but there are shops, there are eateries, there's a nice boutique hotel.
And I've been here for two days, and I have not seen anything but white southerners.
Not one, not one person other than white and southerner.
And when I go to these little diners, I've eaten at a, I love eating at local mom and pop shop restaurants.
And I've gone to two or three of them in the past couple of days.
And it looks like everybody could have been directly related to me.
It looks like the family reunions that I used to go to as a kid in Mississippi, rural Mississippi, rural Alabama, rural Tennessee.
There is no difference in the people.
They are our family, and these people are vastly underrepresented.
And I think if you can talk to these people for five minutes and you establish just a modicum of trust, I think you will find common bonds, the strength of steel cables, and you will find that these people are open and receptive to something like this.
I don't know, again, in the past that the timing wasn't right, but now it is, and these are our people, and we need to build bridges with them.
Well, I would agree.
And I think for those southerners that are still in the large metropolitan suburban areas, that they should know, and it's probably our job to let them know, that there are still places here in the South where they can, you know, they can basically live in the Mayberry environment that they've grown up with.
And we've just got to recolonize a lot of our region that basically is waiting for this southern energy to reestablish itself.
Do you believe that what we talked about today, that our genes cannot be denied?
Do you think that there's something in the heart of the Southern people, even if it lays dormant and even if it lays non-existent, even to them in this moment, that it can be resuscitated?
We've seen that in places like Traveler's Rest, where they have the Dixie Fest at Dixie Republic, where they have it, and people from the general community come in droves, and they are not at all put off by the Confederate flag, by our messaging.
They come and they feel at home.
They come back.
I think our people can and will come back.
And if you are in Tennessee, my home state, James Swore is your state chairman for the Southern Nationalist League.
We'll give the website again.
Put me to the test and tell me if you don't believe this is one of the sharpest looking, maybe the sharpest looking website and presentation that our side has, SouthernATLeague.com.
And I'll tell you this, James Swore has put on the last two.
He has hosted.
He has been the host of the last two meetings we've had here last year for the League of the South, today for the Southern Nationalist League.
And you are a fantastic host.
And certainly we have not opened it yet, but I think in about 20 minutes' time, we will get into this bottle of Four Roses bourbon.
Michael Hill has endorsed.
Our friends may have already started over here because they're off the air, but Four Roses Bourbon.
Any good Southerner should have a good bourbon, am I right?
Oh, absolutely.
And we're putting that to the test.
Or we will be soon, obviously, FCC, but not yet.
But all right, so people in Tennessee, my home state, your home state, our home state, Tennessee.
Why should every Tennessean join?
Well, every white Southern, Christian Tennessean, look into the Southern Nationalist League.
We got a few seconds remaining.
James Swar, the state chairman here in Tennessee.
All right.
Thank you, James.
But yes, all Tennesseans should be aware of this organization.
We are an organization that represents Southerners and we're for the benefit of the Southern people.
And that's what we do.
As a Southern nationalist, James, let me ask you this before the music starts playing, and it will begin to play any second now.
How do you interpret and process and unpack the election results of Tuesday?
I agree with your other guests, Dr. Hill, for instance, that this is four years that we have an opportunity to maybe unmolested plan and decide what our next moves are.
I agree.
I couldn't agree more.
James Swar, the state chairman for the Tennessee chapter of the Southern Nationalist League.
Check out the website, Southernatleague.com.
Michael Hill, the reason we're all here tonight will be back with us to close the thing out next.
Stay tuned.
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It's bittersweet to see this year begin to draw to a close.
We've had a lot of fun here.
It's been personally special.
20 years on the radio, that's something.
And a lot of remote broadcasts this year.
It started off in February in Florida.
This is our last one back home in Tennessee, but still a couple of hours away from home.
It's been a wonderful year, and thank you all who have taken part in it.
But tonight, to be able to synthesize and infuse the election results with the birth of this new organization has just been great radio to me.
And they've certainly made my job very easy this week, not having to build segment by segment and come up with talking points and all of the things I normally do.
There is about three times the amount of work that goes into preparing each show compared to presenting each show.
But tonight, there was zero preparation.
And it's been wonderful.
Michael Hill is back with us, president of the Southern Nationalist League.
And Michael, you surround yourself with talent.
These guys, we had three of your state chairmen tonight, and they carry the third hour, Mark Tommy kicking things off at the first hour, even in advance of you sitting down with us tonight.
If this is the kind of leadership the league has to boast and members have to look forward to, you've got something.
Yeah, I agree.
We've always had really good people in the league, really smart, well-educated people.
And a lot of that education has been done on their own.
And that's even more remarkable and more admirable.
As I like to say, I have a PhD in history, but I know a lot of people who don't, who are self-made, that have a lot more knowledge than me.
And that's why I'm so proud of the leadership that we've had in the Southern Nationalist movement over the past 30 years and what we're carrying forward into the Southern Nationalist League now.
I don't know if I've met anybody this listenership that wasn't smarter than me.
It's remarkable we made it this long, but we have smart people out there.
I want to read this, Michael, as we begin to just come full circle tonight.
It's election coverage, obviously, which is what people tuned into here tonight, the first show after the election, but they got that and much more.
We have covered that extensively and I think quite well, but we're also talking about this new organization because there is going to be something more that needs to come.
Trump's victory did not end anything.
It helped, you know, to the degree that it helped, we'll find out, but it was not the worst of the two options, but there is still more work to be done.
This is what another movement organ wrote this week in response to Trump's victory.
I'll read this very quickly, get your response, and then we'll plug the organization one more time.
We won.
What a relief.
Donald Trump has won.
The Republicans have won.
The American people have won, and race-conscious whites have won.
Or did we?
After all, our goal is to restore America as a white homeland.
Trump's goal at best is a multiracial meritocracy that is somewhat less anti-white, somewhat more colorblind, somewhat more capitalistic than what we have today.
That's actually worse than what we already have because the only thing worse than a dysfunctional multiracial society is a functional one.
Fortunately for us, there is my place there.
Fortunately for us, there ultimately is no such thing as a workable multiracial society.
Multiracial capitalism will continue to erode the racial and cultural capital of our civilization and what it is based upon.
Thus, events will continue to argue in our favor, as will we.
Only ethno-nationalism can save us.
That's what we're talking about tonight.
Bringing together the election results with the purpose and the mission of this new organization.
But I will read the end of this column.
So in what sense is the victory ours?
First, many of us took part in it.
We voted.
We persuaded others to vote.
We volunteered.
Secondly, though, Trump won't give us a white homeland.
That is our job.
But Trump's victory makes it easier for us to get what we want.
I think this, Michael, brings a nice summation to the three hours of conversation we have been engaging in this evening.
The author here writes, compared to Harris, Trump is far better on immigration.
Both candidates offered legal immigration, but Harris also offered massive illegal immigration and amnesties.
Trump offered a clapdown on illegal immigrants coming in and mass deportation of the ones already here.
Trump will slow down the great replacement, which buys white nationalists time, time we need.
Compared to Harris, Trump is far better on freedom of speech.
To win, we need the ability to speak.
Compared to Harris, Trump is far better on our freedom to politically organize.
To win, we need to be able to organize, which is the purpose of this new organization.
Compared to Harris, Trump's economic policies are more realistic.
Thus, Americans will enjoy more prosperity.
Prosperity brings more money into our movement, and to win, we need money.
Prosperity is a double-edged sword, though, because it makes whites complacent.
Thus, our movement needs to invest some of its dividends of prosperity into fighting complacency.
We must be realistic.
Our roots are on the right, and the American right is complacent to its bones.
When there is an economic crisis, leftists go all in to exploit it, but rightists cut back on politics.
Rightists want the impossible revolution with full benefits in a nice retirement package.
Compared to Harris, Trump is far more likely to promote peace and stability around the world.
This may be a bad thing if you are an accelerationist.
I prefer, though, peace and stability.
If you think Peanut the Squirrel was an intolerable distraction to our politics, imagine World War III.
A war, for instance, would be a bigger distraction than COVID, from which our organization and organizing has still not fully recovered.
Compared to Harris, Trump will dial back anti-white DEI policies.
In fact, Trump's victory may be a sign that the tide of wokeness is ebbing.
This provides us with enormous opportunities.
The weaker our enemies are, the more likely we are to beat them.
And last, Trump's victory will complete the destruction of the Republican Party of the Bushes, the Cheneys, and the neocons, opening the way for a more nationalist and populist right.
This provides us with opportunities.
So, what should we be doing during the second Trump administration?
First, we must continue the battle of ideas.
The mainstream is closer to us for two reasons.
First, the consequences of multiculturalism and globalization are pushing people towards us.
Second, our arguments are pulling people toward us.
Political change happens after you convince people to think that it is possible, necessary, and good.
The more people who believe that white identity politics is inevitable, necessary, and moral, the more likely we are to win.
Right.
Well, I think that's a pretty good assessment of this.
You know, I've always said that any white nationalist leader, any leader that's going to ask for white support, is going to have to acknowledge one thing, in my opinion, and that is that the founders of this country founded it for themselves and their posterity.
And that is very clear who that is.
It's the descendants of white Western Europeans, Northern and Western Europeans.
And the reason that we formed the organization that we formed and actually been at this Southern nationalist movement for 30 years is because we have no intention of giving up our patrimony easily.
In fact, we, I hope, will be willing to fight and die for it if necessary.
But I think that this gives us an amazing opportunity here to hold Mr. Trump's feet to the fire on these promises he made.
And as we talked about earlier, if some of them are carried forth, I think that benefits white people in general.
And I think that if he doesn't carry forth on them, I think people are going to say, well, we have to have a better way.
I don't think he's the solution.
He is, as you've pointed out, a temporary stopgap in this thing.
But I think whites are going to have to get really tough-minded, Southern whites in particular, because we have been given such a wonderful place here.
And to give it up without a fight is going to be to basically tell God himself, who gave us this wonderful thing, that we don't value it.
And I really do believe that Southerners are going to rise up.
And if Trump disappoints, I think Southerners will fill in the gap.
And I really do believe that with organizations like we have here, it's going to give our people some hope for the future.
And we are going to try to encourage them as best we can that they have something worth fighting for here.
This radio program and your organization, Michael, fights for whites worldwide through every strata of this country and beyond.
And we certainly receive support from whites outside of the South, a lot of it.
And I am so thankful for them.
But I think we all understand, certainly, that it took us less than 100 years from the founding of this country to realize there was a big difference between whites outside of the South and whites in the South.
And that has not changed.
And so while we still work for reasons of mutual benefit and for reasons of commonality, there is a difference.
And there needs to be an organization that represents exclusively the interests of white Southerners.
And nothing has changed that wasn't true last week before the election.
And Donald Trump, we can take advantage of that in some ways.
But we have to plan for the inevitable that is to come.
What a fantastic show here, our first since the election.
Dr. Michael Hill, SouthernATLeague.com for the brand new, just debuted Southern Nationalist League.
You'd like the support, would you not, Michael?
Absolutely, James.
And we appreciate you having us on your show.
And we appreciate you being here for this sort of founding meeting.
I'm glad you were our last stop on the tour.
We've been all over the place this year, and this is it.
We'll be in the studio for the rest of the year with Keith Alexander and an invited guest.
There's a lot still to sort, unpack, digest, and consider.
We'll do it.
Between now and Christmas time, we're going to have a lot of fun together.
For Michael Hill and for all of our guests, Mark Tommy, I'm James Edwards.