Sept. 28, 2024 - The Political Cesspool - James Edwards
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You're listening to the Liberty News Radio Network, and this is the Political Cesspool.
The Political Cesspool, known across the South and worldwide as the South's foremost populist conservative radio program.
And here to guide you through the murky waters of the political cesspool is your host, James Edwards.
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has certainly happened, and we will try to do that, rhetorically speaking, tonight, this Saturday evening.
September the 28th, last Saturday of September, barely a month until the election.
And before we go any further, let's wish well to all of our friends and family of listeners down in the Florida Gulf Coast area who are reeling from Hurricane Helene tonight.
It's always a terrible thing in hurricane season.
It always does seem to target the South, obviously, because of our position and the way those things work, but never something that we look forward to.
And obviously, a lot of people are hurting tonight.
So hopefully, the show we give you this evening will help make it just a little bit better.
One thing you can count on every week.
And again, here we are.
I am James Edwards.
Keith Alexander will be joining us in the second hour tonight.
Let's just, before we get on with our guests this evening, quick recap.
How about last week's show, gang?
That was one.
Listen, if you haven't heard it yet, maybe stop listening to this show right now.
Go back and listen to that one and then catch this one in the archives.
That was a great show.
Nothing burns faster than a Donald Trump assassination attempt.
I think those are out of the news quicker than the weekly Dallas Cowboy news stories.
But we did give it a pretty good treatment last week pairing together in tandem Congressman Steve Stockman and retired Secret Service agent Gary Byrne.
That was a very good pairing indeed, and something unique to the work of this radio program.
In fact, we liked that pairing so much, we're going to do another pairing this first hour tonight.
I'll tell you who in just a moment, but really did enjoy last week's show.
Sam Bushman and Tim Murdoch also featured.
And then we had part 9 of 12 of our TBC at 20 retrospective.
That interview with Pat Buchanan that we replayed last week with new takes and a commentary was really one for the ages.
I had forgotten how good that particular interview with Pat was.
But it's all there for you if you missed last week's show, last week's show and every show going back nearly 20 years now available for you at the Broadcast Archive.
So that being said, let's talk about tonight's live broadcast.
We will be having with us this evening together at once Jared Taylor, the editor of American Renaissance and Lou Moore.
An interesting pairing indeed.
Lou Moore, who made his debut appearance on this show just about a month ago, I believe it was the August 31st live broadcast.
Lou Moore, the former national campaign manager for the Ron Paul 2008 presidential campaign that comes after several years in Washington as a congressional chief of staff and a speechwriter.
He was very well plugged into the GOP system.
So we're going to have Jared Taylor and Lou Moore together at the top of the next segment in this, our first hour.
So stay tuned for that and what these two gentlemen will be talking about.
It's all forthcoming as we kick things off here tonight.
More surprises, more action as the show rolls on this evening.
But before we take even another minute, I have to remind you, I must remind you, I have to.
I don't want to, but I have to remind you that we are just two days before the end of TPC's third quarter fundraising appeal.
And the reason I always say, you know, TPC has never received a large grant or any sort of institutional or foundation support.
The reason I say that was if we had been, we wouldn't ask for your help like this.
It's the worst part of the job to have to go to our family of listeners and each quarter say, hey, you know, this is what it takes.
We are 100% listener supported.
And in order to stay on the air, we do need your listener support.
If we were endowed financially in a big way, then we certainly wouldn't do that.
We wouldn't need to do that.
And I would certainly prefer it that way.
But because we are trailblazers and because we are the ones breaking through into the mainstream and not quite there yet, but we're getting closer, that day has not come.
And so we still do need your help.
And it's been rough sledding this year with the economy.
It sure has.
It has been a difficult year.
I know everybody out there is hurting with Bidenomics and inflation and the cost of living and the cost of real estate and groceries and gas and everything.
But folks, truly, we don't exist without you.
And I'm not talking to the listener five miles down the road.
If you're hearing my voice tonight, I am talking to you.
And we see the numbers and we see the number of donors versus the number of listeners.
And we don't put things behind a paywall.
A lot of people are getting this free content and we want them to get it.
We want everybody in America listening to this, whether they can contribute or not or whether they choose to contribute or not.
But the fact of the matter is, obviously, a lot more people are listening than take the time.
And I know it's an effort and it's a hassle and it's a burden to write a check because you can't do it simply now over the internet.
We've been deplatformed everywhere.
So it takes a minute to write a check and to address an envelope and put a stamp on it and send it out.
But folks, we really do need it.
If I didn't need it, I wouldn't ask.
We need it.
I thank everyone who has given so far this quarter.
We need a few more of you to do so.
It's been a rough year in that regard.
Now, let's go to the mail very quickly before we get to our incredible guest tonight.
This comes from Brian in Texas.
Dear James and Keith, please find enclosed my third quarter donation.
Thank you, Brian.
I continue to be impressed with the quality and caliber of guests you bring on the program.
Some of the more recent shows I went back and listened to again a few days later because they were so good.
With the recent developments in Ohio, perhaps some of our message will begin to hit home with folks that are affected by these immigrants.
Which brings me to my next point.
Why can't we count on a solitary, charismatic political figure to save us?
We exist in a flawed political system and a financial system with perverse incentives.
As a people, we need to start forming circular economies and trading and relying on one another more.
I look forward to what TPC will deliver during my favorite season of the year to a brighter future.
Again, that's Brian.
Brian, you are exactly right.
First of all, thank you and everyone else again who have given this third quarter and this year, in the last two years, five years, 10 years, 20 years.
We are here day by day, week by week, month by month, quarter by quarter.
And it's because of people like you.
And yes, some of the shows have been very good lately.
And I've actually been listening on my way back from a speaking engagement last week or our conference that I attended and had a hand in running.
But I also agree with what you're talking about, about building these parallel economies, these parallel communities of support groups like we have seen in places we've stopped at this year, South Carolina and Alabama and elsewhere.
That is going on.
It needs to be going on more.
Ralph in Arkansas writes, James, keep up the good work.
I'm talking too fast.
Fighting for and defending our people.
May God bless you.
Well, God bless you too, Ralph.
And here is a note from Paul in Connecticut, all over the United States and around the world.
You're tuned in this evening.
James and Keith, thank you for the important work you do.
I love and look forward to the show each week.
I thought it was time to send in a modest financial contribution to support the show and the work that you do for our people.
Keep up the good work.
Paul, thank you for listening up in Connecticut.
There is no such thing as a modest contribution.
$5, $25, whatever.
We feel it all.
And we thank you all.
Quick update on some other things we're up to.
A lot of stuff going on with the American Free Press and the Barnes Review.
Of course, we are featured in the American Free Press every issue and frankly the Barnes Review now and just about every issue as well.
Just such a wonderful privilege and honor to be able to work with Paul Angel and Chris Petherick at those sister publications, the Historical Journal and the newspaper.
Nick Griffin was a recent interview subject.
Of course, he's here all the time on the air.
Lou Moore, the aforementioned Lou Moore, also is in, I think, the most recent edition coming out.
We've got some other exciting things in the Barnes Review.
A very lengthy feature with Keith Alexander himself going back and tracing the path of decline that we have suffered here in this American since the 50s and 60s.
You don't want to miss that out.
We've got some other interview subjects coming up that, frankly, you won't even believe.
They are just more and more people are coming over and speaking up and speaking out and standing with us now.
And we truly are making not just raids into the mainstream anymore, but we're really starting to, quite frankly, plant a flag.
And we've done that through many, many years of dedicated work, week in, week out.
We are always here.
We never miss.
We are always on for you.
And we're also on the road.
We have been on the road more this year than any year in the history of the program.
I don't think I've ever traveled as much as I have this year to speaking engagements.
I was up just north of Washington, D.C. since the last show.
And that was my next to last stop of the year.
I think we got one more in November.
But we have been all over the map this year, and we've been meeting people, and we have been building these communities and both on the air, off the air, things are happening.
And TPC is right at the middle of it.
And I know we're coming up on a commercial break, and my guests are already texting me to see if we are late.
And I hear the music, so we're going to get Liz to get both Jared Taylor and Lou Moore on the horn.
And they'll be with us live.
This is the election is here, folks.
We are a month out, and we're going to see what these two guys think about it, where we're going and where we stand now in an ever-shifting political climate.
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All right.
Welcome back, everybody, as we work to get Lou Moore on the phone.
He just called me, so it might have been, we were calling him as he was calling me.
I am going to say hello very quickly to our friend Jared Taylor.
Jared, how are you?
I'm doing specifically.
How about yourself?
Not too bad.
Not too bad, my friend.
I guess it's been a very fast year.
Has this year seemed to go by a little bit faster than normal, or is it just me?
It just, I don't know.
I mean, here we are.
I spent so many months anticipating this year and this election, and now we're just literally days away now.
And as you survey that current political landscape, Jared, what do you see?
Well, dear me, I am not pessimistic about a Trump victory, I'm afraid.
I think it's going to be neck and neck, and I believe that he will be pipped at the post, as the British say.
I don't think that Donald Trump is going to win.
But we'll see him.
It's always possible.
It's always possible.
And I'm afraid that he has not conducted the kind of protective campaign that I wish he would.
There's so many things, so many ways he could attack Kamala Harris and her running mate that he's failed to do.
And I just don't understand.
I really don't understand it.
But a lot of people think that the Republicans really don't want to win, but I think they really do want to win.
But we can get into this later on, I suppose, about just how incompetent I think the campaign has been.
His debate performances, I think, have been miserable.
Maybe I'm a little bit too hard on him than many people in our circle, but I think he has really fumbled this thing away.
But that's interesting and a pretty no, very interesting and very candid assessment of where we are right now with the Trump campaign.
I think it was, well, again, they all blur together these weeks, Du.
It seems like the debate now was a little longer ago than it was actually a little longer ago than it seems.
But I guess you would say that he fumbled in the debate then because there was a big, we had a roundtable discussion of about six guests immediately after that.
And, of course, you know, the opinions differed pretty wildly.
Oh, I think he did terribly.
He did absolutely terribly.
As I may have said on this program before, I think that guy can't tell the difference between a campaign rally and a debate.
He thinks all he needs to do is say, you're the worst vice president we've ever had in history, and Joe Biden is the worst president we've ever had in history, and I'll be the best, and you're destroying the country, and that that's all it takes.
Whereas Kamala Harris had sense enough to realize that they're going to be questions, and you have to answer them.
And he very seldom answered the questions directly.
He tried to attack her.
I thought she won on points.
It was not a KO, but she certainly won on points.
And it was quite fascinating to me.
I'd had a conversation with my daughter about the upcoming event, upcoming debate.
And I said, I'd bet you any amount of money that Kamala Harris is going to say to him, look, we'd had this wonderful bipartisan immigration control bill.
And you issued an order to all of your slavish followers in the Republican Party to oppose this wonderful bipartisan bill because you wanted the crisis to continue so you could make hay out of it politically right up until Election Day.
I knew that was going to happen.
And I predicted my daughter, and you know what?
He is not going to say anything in reply.
Whereas what he should say is, yes, there were some measures that kicked in to control immigration, but only after a certain number of illegals had already crossed the border.
It was something like, I can't remember, 10,000 a week, or it was some really awful number, after which then you can actually do something about illegals.
And I said, what he should say is, it's like saying, okay, we've got a problem with murder in our city.
But, you know, after only after about 50 or 60 murders, then we'll go and try to stop people killing each other.
It was a terrible bill, an absolutely terrible bill.
But my suspicion is he doesn't know the details of the bill, and he could not have explained them to Carl Harris, and he just let that slide.
I knew that was going to happen, and that happened.
Then I am one of those who thinks that it was a terrible mistake to talk about eating cats and dogs.
And when somebody asked him, well, wait, what's your reason for saying this?
He says, well, I saw on TV, oh, come on, Donald, that's not good enough.
You can see just about anything on TV.
There are enough awful things that a large concentration of Haitians do wherever they show up that are truthful, factual, verifiable.
And is it, in fact, the case that even one cat has been captured, skinned, and fricasseed by a Haitian immigrant?
Is there even one verifiable case?
Why does he have to go off into left field or maybe right field or even outside the stadium to come up with something that most people don't believe ever happened?
I thought that was absolutely cuckoo.
I couldn't stop.
I couldn't watch any more than about the first 15 or 20 minutes.
I just turned it off.
Particularly harsh.
I would say it's certainly not unimaginable to think that they might have.
And so I would be agnostic on that.
In fact, if I had to bet it my life, I would say it probably has happened.
But as you say, there are a lot of things and a lot of problems they cause that I think are superior to that.
Is that just something that'll make a lot of memes and travel social media?
I don't know what he was thinking or if that was even some sort of any forethought went into that.
But, you know, it was certainly the most memorable and most quoted moment of the debate.
Well, and it turns out he was probably wrong.
And, of course, they ganged up against him, and they called up the town manager of Springfield, Ohio, and he said, oh, we have no reliable case of this.
Now, as somebody's pointed out to me, I've been discussing this on my own podcast, and a lady who has been involved in cat and dog rescue, she said to us, look.
The authorities almost never reply to any kind of reports of animal cruelty.
And so this could be happening, and some people are talking about it, and the authorities just never got around to dealing with it.
Sometimes you can talk to animal control, sometimes you can talk to police, and they want to pass the buck.
This is something neither of them wants to get involved in.
So maybe there have been cases of this.
But as I say, he could have talked about the number of traffic accidents involving unlicensed Haitians who don't speak a lick of English.
He could have talked about all these people swarming into social services and completely swamping them.
He could have talked about all the local people who are being kicked out of their rental houses for many years, some of them lifelong renters, practically, because the people who own these houses can get pots of money, much more money from all these NGOs who are trying to house these people.
There are many things you can say about what happens to a school system, crime rates go up, all these factual things you could say about Haitians showing up, and why didn't he?
He talks about cats and dogs.
And also, let's face it, the only things that people are talking about as even possibly verifiable are cats.
But he's got to bring in dogs.
Why not ponies?
Why not, I don't know, hamsters.
Are they breaking into people's houses, stealing the hamsters, and frying them up?
No, I tell you, if I had been part of that panel, perhaps I would have been roasted and fricased and eaten myself.
But that is my view about that debate.
All right.
So very harsh criticism and take from Jared Taylor towards Trump's performance.
Now, we have covered that pretty extensively.
But I find it interesting.
You know, Jared, I'm looking at the Real Clear Politics averages right now.
And he is still right there.
And he's certainly in better position than he was in 2020 when he lost Nevada.
He lost Georgia.
He lost Pennsylvania.
He lost all of these states.
So let's just look at it right now.
And we'll ask you what you would prefer to have happen, not what you think will happen.
But in Georgia, according to Real Clear Politics, I like to use them because it's supposed to be the average of all the polls that are out there.
Georgia, he's up by two.
Pennsylvania, he's down by half a point.
That's manageable.
Arizona, he's up by two.
Remember, Georgia and Arizona, he lost both of those in 20.
Michigan and Wisconsin, she's up a point.
And let's see what's the other big battleground.
Nevada is one.
He's going to have to probably pick up.
She's up four-tenths of a point, and he's safe in Florida and Ohio.
So what's going to have to happen, Jared?
He's going to have to flip Georgia back.
He's going to have to flip Arizona, basically hold them right now.
He's up two points each.
And he's still going to have to win Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, or Michigan where he's losing.
And Pennsylvania is the most likely.
He's got to win Pennsylvania, Arizona, Georgia.
And to do anything less, then she's still in there.
So, I mean, it's a razor-thin thing.
You know, there's a lot of debate, even in our own movement.
I bring this up to all of our guests, and it's just interesting how we're all so similar on the issues, but we have very different beliefs on how we would like to see this one pan out.
How would you like to see it pan out?
What is in the best interest of our people long term?
Well, as a fellow MC3, we're going to Actively campaigning.
However, I think it is permissible for me to express a personal view.
And I think that if Kamala Harris becomes president of the United States, what that will result in is millions, millions of illegal, non-white immigrants who come into this country.
To me, that is the number one concern.
The more of them show up here, the more difficult it becomes to send them home or maintain any kind of civilized pro-white society.
That to me is the number one question.
I know there are people who say, okay, let them swarm in.
The more Somalis and El Salvadorans and Turks we've got, the more to wake up our people.
Hold on right there.
Hold on right there.
We're going to see if we can grab our friend Lou Morb, and we're going to continue with Jared Taylor one way or the other.
Sit tight, everybody.
We'll be right back.
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You know, we don't have to do these things live.
But I like live because I like the authenticity.
Although, I guess there is something to be said for if you just tape a segment here, a segment there throughout the week, you would have a little more flexibility to avoid the very rare, exceedingly rare situation that we actually just ran into.
My vision for this hour was to pair Jared Taylor of American Renaissance, our number one all-time most interviewed guest in terms of frequency of appearances with Lou Moore, a relatively new friend, but one with whom we hit it off with quite splendidly and quite quickly when he made his debut appearance on the program August the 31st.
And my idea was to bring this guy who's been part of the GOP ecosystem in Washington and who has been a part of that very profound Ron Paul presidential campaign, was there for years, six years as a congressional chief of staff.
He knows the DC system.
And to pair him with Jared Taylor and say, hey, you know, let's get these two minds together and see how far away is the GOP from some of these heartfelt issues and concerns and genuinely felt beliefs that the regular guests on this program bring to the table.
And that was the idea.
We will, unfortunately, have to do that another time without violating HIPAA.
Lou did just call me and let me know that a very close family member was actually just having to be taken to the hospital.
There was actually an animal attack, one the Haitians didn't manage to eat.
Why couldn't they have eaten that one?
Everything seems to be fine, but he will not be able to come on tonight.
Was very much looking forward to being on with Jared, so we will have to reschedule that.
So that is the update.
Just got off the phone with him.
Happened right as he was about to come on the air.
Any event, Jared, one of the things, well, actually, conclude your thoughts on what we were talking about the previous topic, and then I'll get into some of the things that I was going to bring up for conversation with Lou, but I think you'll be able to handle them quite well, even just you and I.
But final thoughts on where we stand.
I mean, certainly Donald Trump, I think you would say, is in better position at this point than he was on September the 28th, 2020, or 2016, even in terms of his electoral chances.
So he's certainly right there.
But you don't think it's going to go his way?
You also don't think that that's a good thing for us at large.
Well, first of all, I'm really sorry to hear about what happened to Lou Moore.
And I had a chance to meet him over the weekend.
Very, very impressed by Lou Moore.
I think he's a great guy, very smart, very savvy, got perspectives and connections that you and I certainly don't have.
So I think it's great that you'll have him on the show at some other time.
Sure.
But back to this particular situation with Donald Trump.
I just think that the, well, of course, Kamala Harris and this Tim Waltz guy, boy, what a pathetic white loser he is.
He's sort of, he's almost like a TV commercial character.
He's the white doofus who gets set straight by some brainy black woman.
It's just pathetic.
He's almost the punching bag clown of the campaign.
But I said, well, of course, it's obviously to their benefit that all of the major media are behind them 24-7.
You just hear all this wonderful adulation of theirs.
But let me tell you one thing that I think that they have failed to do, the whole campaign has failed to do, in a spectacular and unforgivable way.
You know that Kamala Harris has been way out in front on this idea of what she calls equity.
Everybody ends up in the same place.
And last time around, she had a campaign ad in which it shows a white guy climbing up.
He reaches a rope that sits within close reach of his, and he climbs up the top of the mountain.
And then there's a poor, dejected black guy, and he is on a level of ground where the rope is just way out of reach.
And so her solution, right there in this video, the entire earth rises up to the point where the black guy, he too can reach the rope and he climbs up.
I've seen the top of the hill.
You've seen that.
I have.
And she says, this way, we all end up at the same place.
Now, this is a terrifying vision of America, but it's one that the Biden administration and she has pushed.
And this, despite, even when you ask a lot of black people, a very substantial minority in some cases, in some cases, even a majority will say, no, this special treatment based on race is no good.
Not even black people are unanimous that this is a great idea.
I think that the entire Trump campaign should be absolutely hammering her on this.
All end up in the same place.
Everybody ends up in the same place.
I mean, right down the line, how about white people in the NBA?
How about white people in prison?
Are we supposed to be 60% of the prison population, too?
We're all supposed to end up in the same place, Kamala, baby.
How are you going to make that happen?
Well, in the video, the entire surface of the earth rises.
And that is, of course, exactly what you'd have to do for everybody to end up in the same place.
She says equal treatment isn't good enough.
I think most Americans would, and I just say, even non-whites, they're going to say, look, look, equal treatment is the only fair thing possible.
I haven't heard a word about that in the Trump campaign.
This was actually, I get it, believe me.
I mean, he did a lot more dog whistling to our side.
And when I say our side, I mean his base, the actual voting block of people in this country who cast a ballot for him.
And that is the white voting block, the only block that doesn't get its name mentioned when you're rattling off all the different people groups and sexual orientations you're going to be fighting for as president.
Listen, I can understand the disgust and the disdain towards Trump.
Listen, we've talked about this for years.
I'm not going to go back into where I stand on him now.
I've said it several weeks in a row.
But I understand that.
I still, I hate to disagree with you because you're normally right and I'm normally wrong.
I still think he can pull this one out.
I just don't know if, you know, a lot of people just don't like voting for a woman for president.
And I just don't know if that's going to work for her.
But we'll soon find out, that's for sure.
But in the meantime, this was actually something I really wanted to have Lou on to talk about because he would know better than we about, you know, how far away is this from happening?
And we, let me see if I can find this here.
I'll read it to you, Jared, because he's not here to say it for himself.
Although, as you mentioned, this was something he spoke on last week, and both you and I had the privilege of being in his audience.
I'm pulling it up right now, a little bit ill-prepared for this because, again, we are all doing this here on the fly.
But I asked him this during his last appearance, and I brought this up, and I think it's a very good thing.
Liz, let's skip this last break so we can make up a little bit of time in the air.
Let's skip this floater break here at the three-quarter hour.
I asked Lou Moore, again, as you know, Jared, pretty big, you know, he was a part of the Washington system.
And I said, with regards to race, Democrats never miss an opportunity to infuse racial politics into the conversation, almost constantly mentioning what they're going to do explicitly for black and brown and other minority voters.
The Republicans also do this to the same voters, even though they're not likely to get their votes, but never do the majority of voters most likely to support them.
And I asked him, just frankly, why are Republicans so afraid to mention white voters when naming the people they seek to represent?
I think that is a very fair question.
I don't think that is an offensive question or a loaded question.
I just think, you know, you're looking at this.
Hmm.
Why not mention the people in your base, the people who vote for you?
And here was his answer.
And I thought it was right on point.
He said the Republicans look ridiculous when they trimmed their cells and pandered to every different group.
It's no longer outside the Overton window to state that every part of our agenda must relate to saving Western civilization.
In this age of massive cynicism and rapid communications, we have the opportunity to take our politics away from the special interest and their social engineers, but we cannot do it without authentic candidates who have that central objective.
And that means no pandering.
He went on to say, and this is a very key sentence here.
It is in the interest of all people of goodwill to save the white male from the constant campaign of vilification orchestrated by powerful financial interests, animated by dogmas based essentially on Marxism.
If the great replacement is successful, it will not go well for anyone except those who wish total control for themselves and an end to civilization that has been a blessing for all of humanity.
Now, again, it's one thing when you say it.
It's one thing when I say it.
And I think it's very good that people out there are saying it very publicly, as we have done.
But this is a guy who is a part of the GOP system, and I just wonder how far away we are from other people seeing that and saying that.
And I asked him, why aren't they saying it?
And he just said basically they're afraid.
But as he said in his talk a few days ago, all it's going to take is a couple of people to begin to say it, and then folks will start falling in line, which is basically what I was saying at the Amerin talk that I gave last year.
It's easy for people to do things once the ice has been broken.
Still, though, does it defy your belief, Jared, that Donald Trump cannot put the word white into his vocabulary, even at this late date?
Even, let's skip this break list, even when the largest untapped pocket of voters are white males without a college degree.
That's his base, and the only one out there that's not spoken for.
Well, listen to this excerpt from a recent Trump rally in Pennsylvania.
And I understand that this is a correct transcription.
And this is what he is supposed to have said.
He said, it takes centuries to build the unique character of each state, but reckless migration policy can change it quickly and permanently, just like we've seen in London and Paris and Minneapolis.
If Connell Harris wins this election, she will flood Pennsylvania cities and towns with illegal migrants from all over the world.
And Pennsylvania will not be Pennsylvania any longer.
That is a remarkable statement.
Had you seen this reported as having come out of his very own mouth?
I saw something good that he said.
Didn't mention the word white.
But now he is good at saying things like that.
Now, that is particularly stout.
And I had not seen that exact quote.
No, I had not.
And here he goes on to say, when I'm president, the moment I take the oath of office, those who do not belong will be sent back home.
We will end the invasion of small-town Pennsylvania, and we will end the destruction of America.
Now, if there ever were a white people, I'm on your side, dog whistle, this is it.
He's talking about the great replacement, and he's going to stop it and turn it around.
Now, this also does not sound like his usual sort of rambling off-the-cuff stuff.
So, this must have been something that a speechwriter put together and put it up on the teleprompter.
I say, give that speechwriter a raise.
But he says, He says, Connor Harris will flood Pennsylvania cities and towns with illegal migrants, and Pennsylvania will not be Pennsylvania any longer.
That is pretty hardcore stuff.
So, he's, you know, but the thing is, he will drift, he'll drift our way, and then he'll drift away.
And remember when he was talking about the wall, and he says, and there's going to be a great, beautiful door in the wall, and we're going to let in more people than ever before.
Do you remember that remark?
Well, he's doing the same thing again this year with we're going to staple a green, we're going to staple citizenship to your diploma or whatever he's saying about some of these H-1B guys.
But I'll say this, Jared.
I mean, as you said, that is a good - yes, he's a little bit of schizophrenic.
Maybe they all are with regards to that.
And I just here, well, I'll just go ahead and say it.
I said I wasn't going to say it because I've said it two or three weeks in a row.
Of people might be, if you listen to every show, you might be getting sick of the repetitiveness.
But if there's a 1% chance, I like what JD Vance said.
They said, how can you possibly deport this many millions of people?
And he said, we'll start with the first million and then go from there.
I mean, that was a great off-the-cuff answer.
Deadpan answer.
I like that kind of rhetoric.
But yes, if you compare it to the wall that never got built with a door or without, you say, well, he's just saying that, and then it's not really going to happen.
Okay.
Let's just say there's a 1% chance, a 1% chance you see massive deportations.
Is it not worth, I mean, what are we going to do?
I mean, in Tennessee, he's going to win 70 to 30 no matter what I do.
But if there's a 1% chance that you get deportations, that's better than flat zero, which is what you're going to get with Kamala.
And at the end of the day, Jared, petty as it may seem, I would just rather him win just to avoid them having the satisfaction of seeing her win.
If it just comes down to, if I can't sell you on it, ladies and gentlemen, I know a lot of people listening are down on Trump and are not going to vote for him.
You're not going to vote at all.
You're going to be an accelerationist and vote for Kamala.
I can buy into any of those arguments to a degree.
But for me, I just don't want to see the left have the satisfaction of installing this woman who has no right to be a nominee.
She never won a single vote at any time in any primary for president.
And I don't want to see that.
And if I got a 1% chance he'll do something good, and maybe a little bit higher than that, I'll take the one over zero.
That's just where I land, Jared, with a month to go.
Oh, look, look, look.
I am probably as harsh a critic as you will find who is not Antifa of Donald Trump.
I am a very harsh critic of Donald Trump.
However, the interests of white people are going to be vastly better served by a President Trump than a President Harris.
No question about it.
And I think that should leave no doubt as to where I myself will vote.
I am very much opposed to this accelerationist idea that the worse things get, the better things will get.
A lot of the times, worse is just plain worse.
And when it ever becomes something that is possible, to think in terms of unscrambling the omelet and establishing white ethnostates, the fact that we have millions more people and that many housing units, that many parts of the country, that many city governments, that many state governments that are in hands of unassembled minorities, it's going to make the project that much harder.
And so, as I've said before, before the break, to me, the real issue is what is the demographic future of the United States and what influence will a particular candidate have on that future?
And I think the answer to that question is absolutely 100% obvious.
Now, in terms of can Donald Trump win, you know, all I can do is look at the numbers you're looking at.
And it seems to me that certainly compared to his chances of victory over Joe Biden, the Connell Harris thing has breathed new life into that moribund mummy of a Democratic Party.
So things are much tougher than they would have been.
Yes, they're tougher than they were in June, but not as tough as they were in September of 2020.
Listen, it's going to be a flip of the coin.
That's what it's going to come down to.
And then you've got to factor in.
I mean, what's going to happen with the, you know, just how much integrity is there going to be in this election, you know, with the early voting and drop boxing and all of that.
And then, you know, Philadelphia looms large in Pennsylvania in the state that he just almost has to win.
So if you are big on Trump still, it could go either way.
On some levels, Jared, I'm looking forward to it just being over because I certainly don't have any sort of emotional attachment to Trump.
I will vote for him.
I voted for him the first two times.
I'll vote for him again.
I don't have an emotional attachment to his win or loss, as certainly I did with other candidates I've supported in the past.
And even with Trump in 16, I was very happy, very happy to see the pain, frankly, that Hillary Clinton's loss brought to the media establishment.
And that brought me some great joy.
That is petty, I'll admit, but I would look forward to that as opposed to the alternative if we can't get anything else.
I must say, I share your pettiness.
Thank you.
That makes me feel a little better.
I share your view that what in heaven's name is the idea of this half-Hindu woman going to be president of the United States, filling the role that was filled by people like Thomas Jefferson, George Washington.
Good grief.
This just seems an absolute travesty to me, an absolute travesty.
Now, I have many reasons to oppose Donald Trump, but at least he's part of the founding stock of this country.
He's rooted in Western civilization in a way that Kamala Harris is just a complete alien transplant, in my view.
And for her to be president of the United States, I just goggle at the incongruousness of it.
And just for that reason alone, I, like you, would be happy to see her defeated.
And then again, I mean, not to mention the fact that, as we have mentioned so many times on this program since her installment, and that's what it was, she was selected, not elected.
She was polling last in the field of candidates in the 2020 Democratic primary.
Didn't even make it to Iowa and New Hampshire because she dropped out before them because she was polling at 0%.
And then somehow, because she is a non-white woman, Joe Biden strikes a deal.
He was running middle of the pack at the time.
He strikes a deal with the black congressman in South Carolina who sort of is, you know, the black votist is fiefdom.
And then they get Kamala installed as vice president.
And then they do this coup of Joe in the summer.
Two months, it was all planned out.
Two months, I mean, why debate that early?
We've talked all about that.
Donald Trump walked into that trap.
If he had not debated Biden until he was the certified nominee, it would have been a totally different ballgame.
But he walked into their trap.
They gave him two months to get Kamala in there as the replacement.
And now they've got a much better crack at it.
Well, one of the things I was going to ask Lou Moore, and we will have to do this.
Perhaps we can have both you, Jared, and Lou on again, maybe the week before the election, something like that.
But I would like to ask him, you know, the questions we asked you, you and I can have our opinions on it.
But this is a guy who has been in Washington in a big way as a congressional chief of staff and a presidential campaign manager and ask him just, hey, look, behind closed doors, are there more Republicans that are saying these things and agreeing these things, but they are too concerned, too risk averse to actually go out and stick their necks out and be the first ones to sort of break this ice.
And I would be very interested to hear his take on that.
We've talked about that privately.
And again, you and I can agree that things are different than they were 10 years ago.
I mean, you know, the idea that Steve King would be speaking at an American Renaissance conference and then after that become a regular on this program, that he and I would be on a podium together in a panel discussion and speaking together.
Other congress last week, you know, another congressman, a former Secret Service agent.
Things are happening.
Things are happening.
And then there's all the anecdotal evidence of the base, both anecdotal and data-driven evidence that the Republican base is certainly warming up to our ideas.
And that's been well discussed in recent years.
But they're still going to have to have a champion.
Somebody's going to have to step in and harness that energy and take all those slings and arrows, and nobody's better suited to do it than Donald Trump.
And even though he makes some of these great statements that you just quoted, that is a very good statement.
That is about as good as it gets.
But there's still a level of implicitness in that to an extent.
Yes, yes.
But again, shy of coming right out and saying white people have legitimate interests and one is to remain a majority in the country their ancestors founded.
Shy of saying that, that's about as close as you can get.
And hats off to Donald Trump for actually saying that.
No, no, absolutely.
You've got to give credit.
I know people just like to badger and always, you know, people are quick to let perfect be the enemy of the good.
And you have to give credit when it's due.
And you can also criticize and you can be fair and balanced.
I hate to use that because that was a Fox News catchphrase for so many years.
But you can do that.
You can give people credit when it's deserved and take them to task when they fall short of the standard.
But I think, Jared, even easier than that is, as we've seen so many times in the past, when Donald Trump says, this is what I'm going to do for the blacks, you know, again, blacks are 12% of the vote.
The Democrats are going to get 90-plus percent.
There is a much greater pool of votes that could possibly be won by just all you'd have to do is this.
I think all you'd have to do is this.
This is what I'm going to do for the, as Trump would put it, the blacks, the gays, so on and so forth, as he's rattling off this litany and say, working-class white Americans, white men without a college degree, I'm going to be your president too.
That's all he has to say.
And he doesn't even have to put whites first.
Just include them in the list and say, you know, I'm going to be your president, as well as these other groups.
I think even something like that could reactivate a lot of these people who did vote for him in 16 but did not vote for him in 20 and their participation in 24 still remains to be seen.
There is so much he could do.
So much he could do.
And I just don't understand why there are not some people who are capable of sitting him down and saying, Mr. President, this is what you have to do.
Even just preparing for that debate with Kamala Harris.
It just appalls me.
It absolutely appalls me.
But I think that guy thinks he's an absolute genius.
There's nobody in the world who could do a better job than he does under absolutely any circumstances.
And I think he just cannot be taught.
But then again, maybe I'm too harsh, but we'll see.
We will see.
And hopefully we'll see again and talk with you again and get you paired up with Lou Moore again before the election.
We'll see what everybody's schedules look like.
Very rare that you have an emergency happen during the hour, I guess, is supposed to appear.
But we will get Lou back.
I had a big topic on free speech I wanted both you and Lou Moore to discuss.
We'll save that one for next time.
It involves one of Amrin's speakers coming up in November.
And by the way, if you haven't yet booked your ticket for the American Renaissance 2024 conference coming up in November, it'll be post-election, but prior to Thanksgiving, oh, there'll be a lot to talk about one way or the other.
And you can talk about it with Jared Taylor in person if you go to amrin.com and sign up.
Jared, we love your brother.
We will talk to you again soon.
And thank you for holding down the fort with me this first hour.