Aug. 17, 2024 - The Political Cesspool - James Edwards
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You're listening to the Liberty News Radio Network, and this is the Political Cesspool.
The Political Cesspool, known across the South and worldwide as the South's foremost populist conservative radio program.
And here to guide you through the murky waters of the Political Cesspool is your host, James Edwards.
You know, if this was show business, if we considered it to be that, you always want to leave the audience wanting more.
And did Jared and Sam leave you wanting more?
Yeah.
Yeah, you better believe it.
You better believe it.
It was fantastic.
Yeah.
Ed Boardwine, National Director on the executive committee here of the Southern Cultural Center.
These guys, that was like fine wine for me to just sit back and to give them the microphones and to sit back and listen to that conversation.
If we could have filled the whole three hours with that, I don't know if we could have done any better.
But we've got more folks to talk to.
You and Ed Boardwine here on the board of the Southern Cultural Center along with Mike Wharton who kicked things off for us tonight setting the table in the first hour.
Wow, what y'all have done with this event.
Mike Gaddy yesterday.
Now, Mike Gaddy was going to be on with us tonight.
We may still get him over the phone.
He had a little bit of a medical emergency with a family member.
But everybody, there were no weak links.
Everybody on this program hit it out of the park and sort of all touching on different things.
This has just been credit to you as much as Mike Wharton in the first hour.
What a great weekend we've had together, Ed.
Well, James, my good friend, it's nice to say that, but I'll tell you, me and Mike's here and a lot of our people from the Southern Culture Center, but it was a big, big pull from everybody.
Everybody's been a part of it.
All of our members, all of our supporters, all of our, just everybody's been pulling on this thing, working, I mean, a lot for the last two weeks to get this thing ready.
And you're right.
We put together, we think, a five-star speaker cast.
I mean, what else can you say?
I mean, this is the best of the best.
And what else could you get to come here and bring us the truth?
We want to hear the truth, and they laid it on us.
This has been great.
Mark Tommy, I mean, we've got to mention everybody.
Cliff McCarthy, who you're going to hear from in just a moment, kicking things off yesterday.
Pastor Weaver, Pastor John Weaver.
Perfect.
Oh, perfect.
He gives me chills.
He gives me chills.
Listen, I was here to get together.
I want to get baptized again.
And only at a conference like this, because you want to get baptized and fixed bayonets all at the same time and just do it all.
And free the white race.
I'm shaking.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's absolutely right.
And, well, that is the goal.
And we have unique group interests just like everybody else does.
No more, no less, but especially no less.
And God bless the folks here and this organization and these people who are fighting for that because it is natural, it is healthy, it is just, it is righteous.
Yes.
It is God ordained that we have these nations.
Absolutely, James.
And I'll tell you, we're very proud, too, of what we've got done.
We started this organization in 2019, and we built this building just a couple years before that.
And we've worked hard.
We've got, you know, we're no employees.
We're all volunteers coming up here in your own time, away from your families to do this, to take care of the building, make sure we get the funds to keep the lights on so that we can get these strong, strong truth from the horse's mouth people here.
So it's fantastic.
It's a professional organization.
I mean, that's the thing.
Anyone can play around and pretend and try to do things, and maybe their hearts and minds are in the right place.
I don't know.
This is a professional organization.
This is an organization that produces results.
I mean, you had a crowd on a Friday morning that's about as big as anybody can get on this side of the fence.
And that is something, and that takes a lot of work.
And the fact that this is only a three-year-old organization makes it even all the more marvelous.
And so, and then, of course, the caliber of the people here.
I mean, as you said, it's the people that you would want in a foxhole, and also the people you could expect next to you in the pew on Sunday morning.
And that is the best of the best because you are doing what we've always tried to do on this program.
You are interweaving these foundational pillars of our existence and our being, our faith, our spirit, our race, and our culture.
And as southerners, you know, we have that extra special little sprinkle there that separates us from some of our other European cousins.
You're right.
You're right.
It's exactly just like Sam said today, you know, our people.
This is our people.
That's in our motto.
That's who we are.
This is our people and our land.
And we're willing to do whatever it takes to get that.
God help us.
Just like Pastor Weaver said, as long as God's with us and we do what we're supposed to do and our part of it, we're going to get it done.
We've talked about the spiritual.
We've talked about the way forward.
We've talked about it all this weekend.
And I think, again, everybody has left nourished.
It nourished the soul.
It nourished our ability to hope and to dream.
All of that happened.
Oh, my God.
It happens in person in ways that it cannot happen anywhere else.
You have to be here to actually feel it.
You have to be in person.
Absolutely.
It's so uplifting.
It's unbelievable.
I mean, just fantastic.
Well, and again, that's because of how it was put together and structured.
And again, if you want more information, folks, SouthernCulturalCenter.com.
We asked this of your friend and colleague and comrade Mike Wharton to start the program out.
We've got so many other great folks to talk to tonight.
Cliff McGar, Brad Griffin, and others.
The first hour dominated by Sam and Jared, and they just left after a little photo and autograph session over there.
But the Southern Cultural Center, it's not just a once-a-year meeting.
Folks can go there, they can join, they can become members, and what can they expect to do once they have taken that step?
I tell you, yeah, we've got members that are committed to support the Christian values we want in this building.
We've got members all over the South, and we'd like to go more and more in terms of chapters so we can really do more and more for our people.
Because when we can bring people like you and the rest of our speakers we've had, it's fantastic.
We get the word, and then we can get it out to our people.
And they expect us to do that.
I've enjoyed this so much.
I've had the real privilege and honor.
I mean, it's really an honor.
It's almost an embarrassing honor to be able to go and talk to different groups and for different groups to want me to come.
That's just an honor.
That's all there is to that.
But I have really just, we had such a great time last year.
And then I know Jared and I, along with Brad, we went down to Selma.
And Jared did two features for American Renaissance.
Yeah, I remember that.
From Montgomery and Selma.
We toured Montgomery.
And still at Montgomery at the state capitol of the state of Alabama, you have one of the most beautiful Confederate monuments in the world that still stands on the ground there.
So there's something to be said for that.
And we toured that and we saw where Jefferson Davis took that procession down.
And we stood at the Gold Star where he was sworn in as president of the Confederacy.
That all happened right here where we are, just a few miles away in downtown Montgomery.
And we did that and we went over to well, we're not going to talk about that.
That's there too.
The Freedom Riders Music.
SPLC, and it's like right there.
It's all right there together at the same block.
It's unreal.
And remember when, Brad, we went over and we took a picture with Rosa Park's statue and the guy, the black guy, was going to take our picture, but we had to give him a box of chicken first.
That happened.
That's a true story.
He said he asked for, we asked him if he could take our picture as your group with Red Rosa, and then he took the picture.
Then he said, Did we have any money?
He wanted to go get some fried chicken.
That actually happened.
But then we went down to Selma, and Jared did a great feature on that for Amrin last year.
I'll never forget our trip to Selma.
Brad was our tour guide.
Brad Griffin will be coming up in a second.
But anyway, we're having a little bit too much fun.
We've been a little bit too much familiar here now, maybe.
But we had a great time last year, a great time this year.
Serious work, serious people.
SouthernCulturalCenter.com.
And by the way, we were just talking about this before the second hour started.
We closed, this collective closed the conference today with a group singing of Dixie.
Yeah.
That's not entirely unusual.
But what was unusual today was who led that group singing of Dixie.
Yes.
Yes.
Miss Helen Spade.
She's been, she was a singer in the Sound of Music, I think.
She was in the actual movie, Sound of Music with Christopher Plummer and Julie Andrews.
Yes.
And she was here today.
Yes.
She came up to me and she said she listened to the show and she was saying all these kinds of things.
And she was a dear, sweet lady.
But I had no idea she was in the sound of music.
I mean, everybody, who hasn't seen that movie?
That's right.
That's right.
What's that, Mike?
She's in the songbird.
She's the songbird.
All right, we were trying to actually pinpoint who she was in the movie.
They said, but I can't identify.
All right.
Yeah.
All right.
She wasn't one of Julie Andrews' kids.
Well, I could tell.
She was singing opera.
She was singing Dixie opera style.
That's our music.
That's right.
Sure, it is.
So, anyway, you had a member of the Sound of Music movie cast here today, and you never know who you're going to find.
That's right.
We'll be right back.
Ed Ford, why don't you shake your hands?
Thank you, James.
Thank you.
We're not done talking to you and Mike Ford.
That's for sure.
We'll bring you on together.
Love you, boy.
Love you.
Love you.
We love y'all too.
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Mike and Ed will be together as we put Sam and Jared together at the top of the third hour.
Coming up next, Cliff McGarr, who was the speaker, who kicked everything off, and then Brad Griffin will be with me for the rest of the show tonight.
Stay tuned.
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Ladies and gentlemen, we have just reached, well, actually not quite yet.
I'm getting ahead of myself.
I thought we were at the halfway point of tonight's broadcast, but we still have this segment before we reach that point.
And thank God for that, because we don't want tonight to end.
And if the energy can sustain itself at this later level, we may stay here all night long.
There's not been a dull moment.
There's not been a slow minute.
So many great folks here, and so many more still to come.
Brad Griffin is going to be with me for the rest of the show after this hour, co-hosting with me at occidentaldescent.com, a daily read, to be sure.
But now the man who kicked everything off, I think, at least I hope by this point you've gotten a little bit of an idea of what those who have assembled together have experienced and witnessed here in Alabama this weekend.
We're trying to paint the best verbal picture that we can.
But the man who kicked it all off is Cliff McGar.
He kicked it off yesterday, Saturday, excuse me, Friday morning, and he did it in a fire-eating way.
Cliff, it's great to have you.
Your first appearance on TPC.
Let me shake your hand.
How are you?
Oh, I'm doing great, and it is certainly an honor to be here with you.
And I couldn't be more excited to be doing what we're doing right here in the great state of Alabama.
Alabama, Latino!
Alabama!
Sweet home!
Sweet home, Alabama!
Did you hear that, Liz?
Sweet home, Alabama?
We're going to get our producer to probably cue that up.
We'll see what happens.
But we got to do that.
Well, not right now.
We'll do it.
Get it ready and we'll call for it.
You know, actually, last year when we were here, we kicked off this particular show.
There was a live band here that played it to bring the show on the air.
And they were doing, yeah, that was something.
That was a new one, even for me, even after all these years.
Anyway, Cliff, introduce yourself to the audience.
Tell us a little bit about yourself to get started, and then we'll get to your talk today.
Oh, yes.
I'm Cliff McGar.
I'm a proud Southerner, proud Alabamian, and a proud member of the Southern Cultural Center.
And I grew up here.
My family has been in the Tallapoosa County, Elmore County areas of Alabama since the 1800s.
And I am certainly proud to be a son of Confederate veterans.
And That tradition was certainly touched on a lot, even by you, and you'd certainly done an awesome job.
I'll tell you why, make your hair stand up on your arms just listening to the great tradition and legacy we have here.
I forgot that I spoke yesterday.
I'm looking at all these great speakers.
That was the one that I missed that I had given a talk to.
And well, thank you for saying that.
Listen, it is very easy to talk to a group like this when you can talk about what you're passionate about.
It just flows.
And I never know how well or poorly or whatever I do.
But that was a talk I wanted to give.
And I'm eager to talk to folks like the ones we have been with this weekend because, as I said, it's a mixture of folks you'd want to go to war with, people who share all these eternal ties that bind, people you could see on Sunday morning and on the battlefield.
Well, let's get to your talk.
Yes, basically, my talk was more about how southerners shoot themselves in the foot, how whites do much harm to themselves socially, because you know, you have heard several of the speakers mention how, especially on the federal level, we really do not have a voice, we have no representation, and we cannot rely on this government to get us where we need to be.
But where we precisely have the power is exactly where we are doing everything we don't need to do, and that's socially.
We still have power socially, and there's nothing nobody can do about it.
Why should people join the Southern Cultural Center?
People should join the Southern Cultural Center.
In fact, we should expand the chapters because community is what's needed more for Southern whites and white people all over the world than anything.
We have to love each other.
In fact, that's one of the missing ingredients.
But the thing that we really need more than anything, it's not finger-pointing even at the government, although they're oppressors.
It's not certainly not finger-pointing at other groups.
We have to love ourselves more, and we have to love our own traditions, our own legacies, and we have to take care of our own people.
The mission of the Southern Cultural Center, as Southern Christian protectors, we support the Christian values, culture, and heritage of the Southern people and their freedom and independence in their own land.
Moving forward, their pledge is to work to preserve the traditional culture of the South, which makes us a unique people.
Number two, work to educate about our unique culture to both fellow Southerners as well as those who don't share our culture.
Number three, work to regain control of our own political destiny, free of federal control of our state and local governments.
Number four, work to restore the biblical Christian foundations of the Southern people.
And number five, work to preserve and erect monuments, street names, flags, music, and literature that honor the South's glorious past and future.
And that is it.
And as I said, that is one thing I do remember saying yesterday: we simultaneously and at once fight for our past, our ancestors, these people, these men, our heroes who are framed here in these beautiful portraits all around me: Lee, Jackson, Forrest, Davis, and others.
We fight for our past.
We fight for our present as we exist here on this temporal earthly plane.
We fight for our children, but we also fight for our future.
Those who will come from our line 100 years from now.
We fight for our past, our present, and our future.
And we do have a past.
We know that.
We honor it, but we have a future too.
We got to fight for it while we're here right now.
Is that right, Cliff?
Yes, sir.
And that was an awesome quote by you, and we certainly didn't miss your speech.
It was a wonderful thing to hear, especially you going over your own family ties.
You made it very personal, and I think that's what touched it.
It is personal.
It is personal.
Nobody can be us but us, and it is personal, and you have to make it personal.
What is there to fight for?
What would you fight for?
Would you fight for an abstract ideal, some philosophy?
No, we fight for our blood.
That is all that we fight for.
Oh, absolutely.
As much as this was talked about by Sam Dixon today, and as much as people harp about states' rights and things we believe in, we are not just some kind of functional political animals.
We are here and we stand up because our people were fighting.
It was about our people's survival.
It was our people being invaded, just as now it is about our people's survival on a worldwide scale, whether white or white southerner, it's still about our people.
We talked about that today.
I was talking about that privately with Jared, and this is a conversation, not unique, but we've talked about this many, many times on the air and elsewhere.
Certainly, we are all one European family.
We are all one European brotherhood.
All of these people from here in the south all the way to Estonia and the far-flung reaches of Russia and Siberia, these are our cousins.
Yes.
These are our cousins, and we fight for them.
And we are pan-European in that regard.
But at the same time, at the same time, while we should close ranks as a race, we have to fight to preserve our unique nationalities as well, whether you're a German or you're a Briton or you are a southerner.
Right, a greed.
And I would say that that's the only way we can do it organically because the thing is that the people have to be preserved in a real organic way.
It can't be something made up.
It can't be a total break tradition like the French Revolution or something like we see that that doesn't work and it's not good.
It has to be traditional, real.
We have to come up and support each other, but it still has to be in our own organic cultures and peoples within the race.
Amen.
Amen.
How about this guy?
Yes, sir.
Tell them, Cliff.
In keeping, I'm going to read now: you want to join?
You want to be a part of the Southern Cultural Center, SouthernCulturalCenter.com?
This is your pledge to them.
They've read, we have just covered their pledge to you, their mission.
This is your pledge to the collective.
In keeping with our Christian heritage of the South, I agreed to abide by and support the mission statement of the Southern Cultural Center.
And that is, as I read, quote, as Southern Christian protectors, we support the Christian values, culture, and heritage of the Southern people and their freedom and independence in their own land.
If you can commit to doing that and you can put your name on the line and agree to stand and be counted, join the Southern Cultural Center.
This is the third conference, the second I have been to.
And I am telling you, I have been around.
I've been around at least for a minute, 20 years in this cause as a radio host in about a quarter of a century going back to the Buchanan campaign and my own bid for the state legislature.
There's something special here with this group.
Amen to that.
And every time I come here, this is the only place you get this kind of environment.
Unfortunately, we have to come to a place to get this environment, and it's even within our own homeland.
But thank God exists, and thank God for Mike Warden and Ed Boardwine.
It is not easy to do things well.
It's easy to try to do things and to fail, and it's easy to go out and fall on your face.
It is not easy to build something that is sustaining.
Much like your radio show, sir.
Much like your radio show.
You know, I tell you what, it was a lot of years and a lot of luck.
I think that was a lot of persistence and a lot of hard hits.
Thank you, my friend.
I tell you this, though, as I said yesterday, the days have been long, but the years have been short.
It does not seem like 20 years.
It does not seem like 20 years we've been doing this, but we have been doing this.
And before we toss it over to our friend Brad Griffin, let's hear one more round of applause for Cliff Magar.
And as we reach our halfway point of this program, we're going to have Liz play a little selection from right here in Alabama.
Go, Liz, and take us into the break.
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Well, now we are at the halfway point of tonight's live broadcast.
And as we turn the corner, we welcome an old friend, a dear friend, who will be with me for the remainder of the broadcast.
Although we still have several other folks to talk to as well, but it is the one and only Brad Griffin of OccidentalDescent.com.
And Brad, we are back together again tonight.
We talk regularly, of course, and you're always a regularly featured guest on this program.
But we're back here tonight, almost one year to the day of the last time we were here together.
And boy, that was a fun trip, was it not?
Oh, yes, we had such a great time, especially the time we went, you know, touring historic sites in Montgomery.
And then, of course, the trip to Selma with Jared.
That was, you know, my idea.
We were talking about that in the break in between hours before Sam and Jared left.
And that was a day I'll never forget.
I mean, it was so incredible because this was a year ago.
I think literally a year ago by a day.
And we were down here last year, and then we went over to Montgomery.
And then there in downtown Montgomery, you have one of the most incredibly beautiful and awe-inspiring Confederate monuments on the state capitol grounds.
Yes.
It is something of an obelisk in this.
Oh, it's incredible.
You remember that quotation?
It says, the nightliest of the nightly race.
Yes, and it's still there.
Yes, I showed you Jared.
That was the nightliest of the nightly race.
And we saw where Jefferson Davis was sworn in.
There is a historical monument that said the first time Dixie was played in public was at the Jefferson Davis professional, processional, excuse me, where he's walking down this downtown street in modern-day downtown Montgomery, Alabama, right in front of the state capitol.
That's where the band played Dixie for the first time in the South.
And he ascended the stairs, and there is a gold star there at the State Capitol in Montgomery, where Jefferson Davis was sworn in as the president of the Confederate States of America.
And you and I and Jared and other friends who were there that day, we stood on that gold star a year ago this weekend.
Oh, that was fun.
We also saw the first White House of the Confederacy.
Yes, I got a picture with my son there.
He was there last year.
I mean, there's no shortage of Confederate history in the area, and so is a black.
But for all of that to still be on the state capitol grounds, the gold star where President Davis was sworn in.
I mean, I am telling you, folks, a monument so awe-inspiring, I mean, your mouth will be agape, and it's right there, and it's not off in a field, and it's not off.
And listen, I love, and I talked about this yesterday, I love all of the small town, small county squares where you have, and almost all of them, a Confederate monument of some sort.
Those are beautiful.
I love them.
That is something that is so endearing about the South.
This is a state capitol, though, that we're talking about.
Yes, it has a major one.
And in fact, like I was, you know, so impressed with that one.
When we went out west, we came back through Mississippi, and we stopped in Jackson, and we looked at, we didn't stay long, but we went to the state capitol in Mississippi, and we looked at the, there's a beautiful Confederate monument there as well.
Did you go inside?
There is actually still to this day.
On the grounds.
On the grounds, but inside the state Capitol building in Jackson, Mississippi, there is still a gilded elevator with a portrait of Robert E. Lee on it.
People might not know that.
My pastor was down there to do some business a couple of years ago, and he took a picture of it.
He said, you won't believe this.
He said it to me.
So you still get some of that.
But no, listen, I mean, the South is beautiful, the rural South, Montgomery, all of that right there where Davis was sworn in, the star, the Confederate memorials there on the State Capitol grounds, the marker that shows you where he marched, where Dixie was played for the first time.
And then literally, as if it's a schizophrenic city right across the street.
I mean, on the same block is Martin Luther King's Church and the Southern Poverty Law Center.
The deaf star that orbits the Capitol that drives to like a rural state.
I mean, within eyesight of all of this we've just explained to you is the SPLC headquarters.
Yeah, with a big banner that says, you know, fight hate or something like that.
Yeah, all of that.
We also, you remember we went over to the Civil Rights Memorial and we forgot who it was, but he, you know, we saw that fountain of the civil rights martyr.
But hold on, that was in Selma.
We'll get to that.
We're still in Montgomery, though.
Before we went to Selma, we went to Montgomery first from Wetumpka to Montgomery and then down to Selma.
But the SPLC in King's Church and then down is the Freedom Riders Museum and this monument to Rosa Parks.
Am I lying, Brad, about the guy who offered he would take a picture of our group if we would get him some fried chicken?
Is that a lie?
That actually happened.
And he got a picture of Jared, you know, with his arm around.
Jared had his arm around Rosa Park.
I included the new statue of Rose.
Well, we were talking about the.
I want to say there's an MLK statue somewhere downtown now.
I'm glad we didn't see that.
Yeah, it was installed like this since you were here.
Oh, since last year.
I've heard about it.
I haven't seen it myself.
Well, we saw it all.
We saw the good, the bad, and the ugly there in Montgomery.
And then we went over to Selma, and it was just ugly.
We didn't see bad.
We didn't see any good there.
It gave it.
Lots of ugly in Selma.
And Jared did a video for American Renaissance, a video of all videos.
If you go back into the American Renaissance video archives and you go back to August of 2023, you will see something.
And Brad, it was all because of Brad.
Brad Griffin suggested Jared, we near the airport.
Well, Jared had a late flight last year on a Sunday afternoon out of Montgomery, so he had some time to kill.
And we did that tour of Montgomery, and that was both inspiring and maddening.
And then we took that little 30, what, 30, 45-minute drive down to Selma.
And that was just, that gave birth to, I think, one of maybe Jared's greatest video ever.
The way he deadpanned his lines.
I mean, it was pure comedy.
What did we see that day in Selma?
It was a total disaster.
What didn't we see?
It was a total disaster zone.
I mean, it was so bad.
The best put forward, this is their mecca.
You got to understand, this is their mecca of their religion, of the civil rights mythology, the so-called civil rights mythology.
This is their mecca.
This is their ground center.
And there had been in Selma, like recently before that, a terrible tornado had come through and had ripped through Selma.
And you couldn't just tell the damage between the tornado damage and what was just regular black blight.
Regular urban blight.
It's that bad.
But their museum, the National Civil Rights Museum, was like, it had plywood windows and busted out.
Graffiti.
And this is, this is, again, you still have pilgrims.
You still have these guilty white liberals.
Blacks don't care.
But blacks don't care.
They don't go.
It's mainly for like presidential candidates and guilty white liberals.
And they go there.
And this is it.
This is where they pay homage.
This is where they kneel.
And it is just, I mean, it is beyond the caricature that you could present of the other side.
It is all of that and more.
That was Selma.
A rotten fountain of sewage.
This is like the fountain of black wisdom.
And it was all about us.
The most beautiful thing in Selma is the cemetery, though.
The Confederate cemetery maintained by a lady who was here today.
The immortal and the great and good Pat Godwin.
And God bless his soul and rest his soul, her husband Butch, who passed away since we were here last year.
And Butch, Pat and Butch, they will never be another pair like those two.
But she maintains that, and they maintained that Confederate cemetery.
And it was the only clean part of Selma.
Oh, yes.
Yes, definitely.
And it was immaculate.
And we went there, too.
But we saw it all, and we had a ball, did we not, Brad?
Yeah, Jared put a video up for the ages about our time in Selma, October, excuse me, August of 23.
Go at the Army Archives.
I mean, I just knew he had to walk to personally experience the bridge march over for he could see how wrong he's been.
We were right there.
I got a picture with Jared.
We all got a picture on the Edmund Pettus Bridge, that Holy of Holies.
I just wanted Jared to see how wrong he's been about race.
No, you didn't.
He certainly wasn't.
But that's funny.
But again, you go from one side to the other, and this is supposed to be where everybody comes and pays their respects.
I mean, anybody who came with an objective mind, if they're capable of reasoning, they saw this, they said, wait a minute, something's wrong.
This should be a paradise.
There's no white racist here anymore.
Selma's like 90% black.
This should be different.
I mean, there are black billionaires.
You would think they would at least, you know, fix it up.
Yeah.
Because it's such a national embarrassment.
It's such a site.
It's such that site is so important to their mythology.
John Lewis would come and watch across the Magic Bridge.
You know, I listened to an interview of the sheriff.
We talked about Drew Lackey, the officer Lackey, who has been on this program.
He's passed away, of course, but who had fingerprinted Rosa Parks, became the police chief of Montgomery.
But there was a fascinating interview with the sheriff of Dallas County, which is Selma.
Selma's in Dallas County.
And there's a fascinating interview that I read that was, I think, put on by the University of St. Louis.
They interviewed him.
They gave him an objective QA.
They asked the questions and he answered.
They asked him what, if anything, surprised him about that day, so-called Bloody Sunday.
And he said he never thought people would believe it, that they would believe the lies that were told about that day when you have all of these demonstrators causing the violence.
He never thought people would buy it, but they did.
And, you know, that's something about the Southern people.
We are too good and too trusting, and sometimes for our own good.
We'll be right back with Brad Griffin, ladies and gentlemen.
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Anyone ever had less money this year than you had last?
Anybody better have it a 1% pay cut?
You deal with it.
That's what government needs, a 1% pay cut.
If you take a 1% pay cut across the board, you have more than enough money to actually pay for the disaster relief.
But nobody's going to do that because they're fiscally irresponsible.
Who are they?
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Who are they?
Democrats.
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So the money will not be offset by cuts anywhere.
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The day of reckoning may be the collapse of the dollar.
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Although, Brad, if too many more people show up, they're going to have to tear down a wall and build an expansion because this was a packed house today.
Oh, definitely.
And of course, you bring them all out because you were one of the speakers.
And we're going to talk about your talk here in just a moment.
But Brad is also a member of the board of directors of our friends over at the Conservative Citizens Foundation.
And as we have been talking about the last couple of weeks, we have spent and our producers have spent hours in the studio off the air over the course of the last couple of weeks to cut some new ads.
And we were refreshing the ads.
And I'm excited about that.
I have enjoyed taking the breaks to hear the refreshed ads.
And we've got a lot of different folks voicing these ads now.
And this is one that our friend Kyle Rogers put together for the Conservative Citizens Foundation.
think we have it queued up i don't know if it's i i apologize because i don't know if it's played yet tonight because i've been taking my headset off to talk to all the folks here during the break But if it has played, that'll be okay.
We're going to play it again right now.
Let's roll it.
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That is your mother-in-law behind that foundation, Brad, who put that together and a great job on that.
That's fantastic.
It's my first time hearing it.
Your first time hearing it.
Well, I think we just debuted it tonight.
Yeah, perhaps last night.
I'll give you an example.
Like, I saw Kyle had tweeted on Twitter the other day.
There had been a black-on-white homicide murder in Lowndes County, the county that we went through on the way to Selma just recently.
That doesn't surprise me.
Yes, it's something that gets zero publicity.
It's a very important issue, and I'm glad that we're tracking it.
But, but, but, yes, they are tracking it, and they're doing it there.
You can go to the website.
There's a lot of different URLs for the Conservative Citizens Foundation.
But how about natcon.life, n-a-t-c-o-n.l-i-f-e.
You can go to americafirst.com.
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With a hyphen in the middle, right?
But natcon.life.
That's a good simple URL.
But, of course, your mother-in-law, Linda, what a dear, sweet lady.
What's it like to be Gordon Baum's son-in-law?
Yeah, that's a big responsibility.
It's quite an honor.
And now, you know, he has two grandchildren for me.
Thanks to you and your wife, Renee.
And both of them are going to be here soon.
The show's not over yet.
They're coming before the end of the show today.
My youngest just made his debut here in the building.
And my oldest, he remembers the old days, and he's gotten jealous, and he wants to show up.
So hopefully.
Your youngest named Jackson after the great general.
So I am a firm believer in big and strong names.
I think that that shapes lives.
I think names are very important.
It's not a trivial thing.
You don't want to name them like the hippies, name them Stardust or anything like that.
Oh, that's great about this building because I can just go up and point to the paintings and it's like, son, that's who you're named after.
Son, that's who my brother's son after.
Exactly.
All right.
Well, let's talk about this before we continue with our, my goodness, how fast this is going tonight.
Let's talk about your talk today, Brad.
Yesterday, rather, your talk this weekend.
You talked yesterday.
You and I both talked one after another.
Let's talk about your talk about activism.
You gave a nice snapshot of the last 10 years and how activism has changed and evolved and what you've learned.
And as we continue forward, take it away.
That's absolutely correct.
And in fact, James, people like me and you are, especially you, you are the model that I had in mind when I gave that speech.
We have both been in the middle of the day.
Well, let me first say thank you for that because as you know, and as I tell you, and as I give you credit for on this program, I don't know.
Very rare is the night when we don't quote something from OD.
And of course, even though you're too younger than me, you have informed my thinking on a lot of things.
And I've taken a lot of what you've, the way you have put together ideas that we share, and I have incorporated that into talks.
Yeah, so I mean, it's just great to work with you that.
I mean, we are a great team, and the admiration is mutual.
I mean, you are the epitome of, if I could point to anyone in the movement I've known who's positive and pragmatic and patient and consistent over the course of decades, it would be you.
You are a model activist.
And what inspired that speech that I gave more than anything is me and you, we have been in this cause 20 years now.
We have become middle, you know how you have the old war horses?
We've become middle-aged war horses.
But we entered into it at approximately the same time, and we have been engaged consistently month after month, year after year, week after week, day after day, for all of our adult lives.
And not everybody can say that.
And a lot of people can say that.
A lot of people could say that they have done that for far longer than we have, but to have come of age in this movement and to have had it be a part of your identity for the entirety of your adult life, that's, I mean, not a lot of people can say that.
Yes, I mean, and like I said, with you being the model, James, you are the perfect person who balances, who can come across as completely normal and relatable to the average southerner, and at the same time talk about edgy ideas without going down like a rabbit hole like some people.
But the main reason I gave that talk is we've got to do something about turning.
The transcript, I should say this, Brad, pardon the interruption, brother, but the transcript of Brad's talk can be found at occidentaldescent.com.
Occidentaldescent.com.
You can read it almost word for word.
We have too much turnover amongst activists where people will get extremely active and radical and they're around for a few years and they burn out.
And that's what really inspired the speech.
And not just that, but like when people can like get too into one thing and lose the ability to communicate with others and they sound like they've been in an echo chamber, that's the subject I wanted to address.
Well, you can read it for yourself if you didn't hear it.
And there's nothing like having been here and having heard it.
But you can read it.
And Brad gave you the courtesy of posting the transcript of his talk at occidentaldescent.com, a website when I'm not on the road, and sometimes even when I am.
But if I'm at home, every day I'm at Occidental Descent.
And if Brad's not posting that day, something's missing.
I'm going to have to try to catch up on my posting after this weekend.
Well, you've got to post this one because this has been something with such great people.
I mean, everybody we've had on tonight.
Yeah, I'll post the review of the conference.
Please do.
Please do.
No one can write a review like you do.
By the way, it doesn't seem like it was that long ago.
Obviously, it wasn't that long ago.
And you could say that about something that happened a year ago or 10 years ago or 20 years ago, but certainly for something back in May, we were together and you kicked off the Political Cesspool's 20th anniversary conference, which was, for us, certainly a seminal and monumental milestone marker 20 years.
And you were the first speaker at that event, and that was not by accident.
And that was just, of course, back in May, and that kicked off the summer in South Carolina.
And it's been a great summer together.
Yeah, and it's amazing how in that conference, some of the other activists who were there, we were all thinking like on the same page.
And like, even though we had not even read each other's speeches, we kind of like built off this.
We did.
I mean, well, I can still name the lineup from start to finish.
It was you, and then Tim Burdock and Warren Bailog, and we had Mark Weber and Jared Taylor and Sam Dixon.
That was also something that was interesting to me.
Mike Gaddy, who's been, you're going to hear from Mike Gaddy in the third hour tonight.
Mike would have been on much more this evening.
He had to leave for a family emergency, thank God.
And we all pray.
We had a group prayer for Mike tonight led by Mike Wharton.
But thankfully, the prayers were heard, and they certainly didn't hurt.
Everything's fine there.
But had Mike Gaddy been here tonight, he would have been more prominently featured.
But we are going to hear from him over the phone in the next hour.
But he gave a great talk tonight, and we'll talk to him.
But yes, there is so much overlap between tonight's event and what we had back in May for TPC.
I guess that shouldn't be surprising, but I certainly noticed it.
I think, let's see.
I mean, we had, what, three or four people who spoke at that event speaking here today.
Yeah, well, I mean, that's one of the reasons we come to these conferences because we talk and we build a consensus and we build off each other, I think.
And I certainly always come together.
And then Mike Gaddy, who we just mentioned, the Rebel Madman, he's on RBN, which is a fantastic network.
And I know he is going to be working more with the Southern Cultural Center, I think, on a monthly basis.
RBN, we cut our teeth on RBN before we moved over to Liberty News Radio.
It's a great network, and he's a great show, great guy.
It's going to be a great collaboration there.
Well, anyway, we'll hear more from him about that in the next hour.