And it is such a great delight and privilege to be back here tonight at the Southern Cultural Center for their third national conference.
We were here last year and we had a great time and we are back.
And dare I say, did we have a better time?
Mike Wharton, the chairman of the Southern Cultural Center, is with us to set the table and share with you all listening, wherever you may be, what exactly we experienced this weekend.
Mike, take it away.
Hey, James, first of all, I'd like to welcome, I'd like to welcome James Edwards and the political cesspool to the central, to central Alabama, better known as the Heart of Dixie.
That's right.
Heart of Dixie.
And moreover, to the Southern Cultural Center.
And it has been a great conference, been a great conference, great speakers.
We're coming away from here with hope.
Southern independence, Southern Liberty, more with Southern independence has been foremost today in a conversation.
And I think that our people have left here with renewed strength and hope that it's, you know, we're looking at it being with insight and something that's very achievable.
I am standing or sitting rather just a few feet from two of our brightest stars, Jared Taylor and Sam Dixon.
I'll tell you what, by the time it was over today, Mike, I was ready to fix bayonets and run down the road out there.
It was a passionate, it was an emotional, and it was an inspiring collection of speakers, assembly of speakers that you put together yesterday and today.
There were no weak links.
Well, I'll tell you this, Brother Jared, you yourself, James and Sam.
Perfect.
The people, they've already ready to extend them an invitation for next year.
So we're going to go ahead and go out right now.
And Sam, and Jared, and also the cesspool.
Yes, and boy, I'm going to tell you, you saw the excitement here yourself today.
You saw the excitement here yourself.
And yes, in Southern Liberty and the hope for it and the passion to achieve it, it was alive and well here at the Southern Cultural Center today.
If we could bottle this up and ship it to our disillusioned kinsmen, I think we would catch fire if we could put that spirit in a bottle, so to speak.
But I got to give you credit, my friend.
And as Jared can attest, these things do not plan themselves, and they certainly don't fill seats by themselves.
The amount of skill and dedication and determination that it takes to have a successful event is very difficult.
And when I came here yesterday, and you have a different kind of conference schedule, whereas most groups, they begin on a Friday evening if it's going to be a full weekend conference, all day Saturday, Saturday evening, and then Sunday morning.
Here, it's Friday morning to Friday afternoon, Saturday morning to Saturday afternoon, and then nothing on Sunday because you take the Lord's Day seriously.
There is a Bible study on Sunday morning.
But when I came in yesterday, during nine to five work hours, it was a packed house.
I mean, it was an incredible crowd.
Indeed.
And Bobby Johnson, our Southeastern leader, a chairman for that section of the state of Alabama, he'll be leading Bible study here tomorrow.
And we've invited a lot of the people from the audience and from our attendees of the conference to come back tomorrow.
So we're looking for another good time tomorrow and the study of the Lord's Word.
Amen.
And folks, if you want a little more information about just what the Southern Cultural Center is, it is not just an annual conference.
There's a lot more to it than that.
We encourage you to go to southernculturalcenter.com.
There you will find their pledge to the Southern people, their mission.
We're going to continue to have our hosts this weekend, Mike Wharton and Ed Boardwine, interspersed throughout the program.
We're going to bring them on intermittently to talk a little bit more about what the Southern Cultural Center is all about.
But if you could give us a quick snapshot, Mike, how would you break it down?
Well, I'll have to say, we're a voice for our Southern people, for Southern independence.
It's still our goal.
That's first and foremost.
But also, we're a refuge here for our people.
James, I don't mind saying we're going about our business of saving the white race.
There's so much going on right now.
You hear about the monument.
You hear about this.
You hear about that.
But if the white race is not, if the white race doesn't survive, none of that's going to matter.
And so, you know, we just like what Brother Jared said today, it's going to be a regathering of our people.
And we want to be there for it.
And in fact, we want to lead the way.
Amen.
That's what we're about.
Let's talk about the cooperation of like-minded and overlapping groups because there are others that share our ideas.
And there are fantastic leaders and people who go from group to group, the efforts to network with one another and work in cooperation for a shared vision.
Absolutely.
Today is so ably put.
My brother Jared from Renaissance, Mark Tommy with the League of the South, so many SCV members here today, SCV leaders, Hunter Wallace in regards to the 80-20 rule about coming together.
Our people are coming together now like never before.
Never before.
And I can see it.
There's going to be an awakening in this country.
There's going to be an awakening, and it can't be stopped.
And balls rolling in that direction, and it's coming together.
What we're going to do, folks, here, just to give you a little preview, we have Sam and the aforementioned Sam and Jared, and we're going to bring them on one by one and then team them up together, pair them together for the last segment of this hour.
We're going to have Sam up next, then Jared, then Sam and Jared.
And then as the evening goes on, we're going to continue to talk with the leaders of the Southern Cultural Center, Mike Wharton and Ed Boardwine.
We'll talk to Brad Griffin.
He should be here soon.
And some other people who participated in the event and who are participating here right now, being with us and staying late to be a part of this live broadcast.
I want to thank you again, Mike, personally, for having me back.
When I came down here last year and when I came back today and I said it and I mean it, it is just like everybody I grew up with.
It's like going to one of these old-time family reunions we used to have in Mississippi.
It's like going to Sunday morning at the small little Southern Baptist church I grew up in.
These are our people.
These are our family and whether you have met them before or spoken with them before you need to lay eyes on them for about two seconds and you know that's our guy.
That's our girl.
This is our people.
Yeah, it's a homecoming, James.
It is.
It's an old-fashioned homecoming.
And even like I say, if you don't know them before, you know them before you leave here.
You know them when you see them.
You know them when you see them and you feel that connection and you feel that camaraderie and that blood and those ties that bind, those eternal ties that bind that bring us together.
And as you said, this is at the end of the day, blood and soul.
Absolutely.
If you bring it down to the most common denominators, it is blood.
It is our soil.
It is our race.
It is our land.
And I think it is so important to stoke the embers.
As Sam said earlier today, our people are too comfortable and perhaps certainly not present company, not the present company, but too many of our people are too comfortable and too cowardly.
But those who are the keeper of the flame and who stoke the embers, people like you, organizations like this, as the motto of South Carolina, while we breathe, we hope.
Hey, I'll say this.
While we're talking about our folk, everybody knows Governor Wallace here.
Everybody loves Governor Wallace, Governor George Wallace, but I'd like to quote Governor Lurlene Wallace when she said that the soil of Alabama and all across the South has been nurtured by the blood of our folk.
And she talked about that blood and she talked about that soil.
And that's what it's about.
That's what the center's about.
And that's how we operate and what we're bringing our people to understand.
And there's more and more people reaching out to us.
We had people come here today from all over the place, not just in the South.
I mean, there's the people that come.
Sometimes we had a man here from California today, believe it or not, said he moved to Alabama four years ago to look for the most independent state in the Union, and that was Alabama, where there was still some liberty.
I think, yes, and I think you've still got, what, three Confederate state holidays here in Alabama?
That's right.
We're going to hold on to them.
But hey, we'll have to fight for them to keep them because even I tell you what, our leadership here in Montgomery, they're like the leadership in other places.
Hey, when we get a nation of our own, hey, we'll establish our own leadership.
It's like what Brother Jared said today.
I'm sorry, we've got to take a quick break.
The music's playing.
We've got to pipe that music up just a little bit, Liz.
I could barely hear it.
But hey, big round of applause for Mike Wharton.
We'll hear from him more as the hour goes on.
Keep that thought, Mike.
Sorry to cut you off.
We'll be right back.
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Well, that might sound like an odd song to bring us back from a break at this particular event, but we do have Sam with us.
And I think Sam perhaps sacrificed more than anyone to be here this weekend because just three days before his arrival in Alabama, he was in London.
He had taken a little trip over to the mother continent.
And of course, he was over there right when things were kicking off.
We had Nick Griffin on the show last week to talk all about that.
Sam saw it with his own eyes.
Sam, just before we get into your talk here today at the center, which is what we're going to be focusing on, I think the people would love to hear your testimony, your eyewitness testimony from having been in England for a couple of weeks very recently.
Well, I arrived and the murders had taken place the day of my arrival when the son of these immigrants, this black fellow, murdered three little girls and injured five others and severely injured two adults who intervened to save the rest of the children from this genocidal black man.
But anyway, the story was breaking and the government was lying about it.
The government was trying to claim that this guy was a Welshman and they were trying to suppress who it really was.
And so through social media, the truth began creeping out despite the media and the government's efforts to suppress the truth.
And the cover was blown and there was outrage among working class Britons who bear the great burden of this as they do in America, while the ruling classes preach all of this love and brotherhood and how happy they are with immigrants but then spend huge amounts of money to move away from it and leave others to live the philosophy that they profess.
But anyway, it was very interesting.
I got caught up in one of these demonstrations almost.
I was in the Art Museum in Manchester and came out and was going to the cathedral and I saw people coming down the street with union jacks and the flag of St. George, the English flag.
And I thought, I wonder if they're the demonstrators against the immigrants.
And sure enough, they were.
Gobs of cops all around them.
And then they got cut off.
What I thought was the end of the demonstration got cut off by a very adroit coordinate of cops.
And I thought they were harassing the demonstration.
But then I saw that the people they had cut off were wearing black ski masks.
People right behind the time they catch up with them, and they were Antifas.
And so I got cut off and had to stand with the Antifas for an hour and a half.
How would you describe the physique of the Antifa leader that you were in?
Well, this is an important point.
When I was in college, we used to have a saying about people in the SDS that they would say, he's ugly enough to be a communist, or she's ugly enough to be a communist.
And really, I think physical ugliness plays a big role in the behavior of these people.
They're unattractive.
They resent normal-looking people and attractive people.
And anyway, their leader was simply grotesque.
I think I showed you his picture.
You did.
I'll never forget it.
It's a burden to my eyes.
No wonder this guy hates society and is at war with the human race.
But anyway, it was something.
But interestingly, and of course we covered that last week in depth for an hour.
So if you missed that one, you can catch yourself up on that.
But I think for Sam's part, having of all the places you could have been on that particular, at that particular time, you were there and you saw the demonstrators go by, and then you were sort of stymied by the cops who were detaining the Antifa or keeping them back, and you were kind of held in place for a while and you started, well, you got to see all of that.
So you were right there.
I don't know.
That's interesting to me.
But if your flight had gotten delayed at all, you might not have made it here.
You had about two days' clearance to get right back to Atlanta and then down to Alabama.
I was relieved to get on the plane.
I was worried because the government and the media are lying in Britain.
They're claiming that this was organized by Putin.
Russia, Russia did all this.
Then they're claiming it's the English Defense League, which is an organization that I'm told by people in England hadn't existed for 10 to 15 years.
They were claiming that all these people are from out of town.
They're outside agitated.
It couldn't be possible.
It couldn't be possible that the native Englishmen and women could be upset about this wonton murder and rape of their children.
And the nickname they've given their prime minister, Kier Starmer, is two-tier Kir because he has two tiers of law enforcement.
He justifies immigrant violence as caused by racism and white people that we're to blame for their violence.
But if there's any resistance, then he comes down severely.
He's not as forgiving for Facebook posts that he doesn't like.
No, he does.
No, they want to extradite Musk and put him on trial for what he puts up on Twitter.
And they're blaming the demonstrations and the occasional violence with some of the demonstrations on false news on social media.
And the only thing they can come up with now is that some people have said that the perpetrator was an immigrant when in reality he was a child of immigrants.
But they don't mention the false news that the prime minister and the government and the media were putting out that this was a Welshman.
They don't mention that.
Well, he was the son of Rwandan so-called refugees, and he's still a Rwandan to me.
And of course, they put his picture from third grade up and all of the stories about.
Anyway, like Traython Lawrence.
Exactly, exactly.
Well, let's fast forward then.
I thought that was fascinating that you had been over there, and of course I knew that, but I wanted to get you to share that story, and I appreciate you sharing that.
But fast forwarding to today, you were the closing speaker, and I told a friend of ours, Rich, who lives up in Nashville, that it had to be the, I don't know how many times I've heard you speak, Sam, dozens.
Not nearly enough, but dozens.
And I said it was the most inspiring I've ever heard him.
And Rich said, you said that every you say that every time Sam speaks.
But in any event, could you break down in just a couple of minutes some of the highlights of your talk?
Well, I can't because it was a disorganized talk.
I didn't think it was very good at all.
Oh, you're out of the way.
No, he's out of control.
I was just talking.
I was just talking.
It resonated.
I think the sum of it is that we have to be, we honor our southern heritage, but we are more than southerners.
We're the heirs to a great civilization in Europe that transcends national lines.
We came from where you were last week.
Yeah, that I quoted Rabbi Stephen Wise, who was the head Jew in the first half of last century, and he kept stressing to Jews, we have been Americans for 300 years, we've been Jews for 3,000 years, that their taproots were more important than the most recent experiences, and we have to understand that.
And I also touched on how our whole Bill of Rights, everything comes to us as part of our British heritage, and how wrong it is to talk about how we escaped British tyranny and the tyranny of the king with the war for independence.
And I did a compare and contrast between King George, who never burned down any village in America, and the behavior of Abraham Lincoln, who we're told was a great guy.
We have him on the penny and on the $5 bill.
You had a wonderful, I can't remember exactly what the example was of schizophrenia amongst our people or white people at large.
What was that exactly?
How, oh my goodness, I'm drawing a blank.
But anyway, it was a fantastic point, if anybody can remember it, about how they will complain about certain behaviors and then sheer hardest for the people perpetrating the behaviors that they dislike.
Southerners love to go to war.
Yeah, well, Southerners love to go to war for the United States, that's for sure.
Well, we do have that fighting genetic payload in us, and any fight will do sometimes to scratch that itch.
But what is the solution going forward now?
What kind of leaders should we ask for if we ever get another turn at bat?
Well, that's the other point, was that being a Southerner and being a white European is the most important thing.
And our monuments refer to people dying for democracy or dying for the Constitution or states' rights.
But no one says on these monuments they died for their people.
And our people are more important than things like the Constitution.
And also, there's no political philosophy that is always the right philosophy.
We cannot go back to local control.
We cannot go back to states' rights.
We cannot go back to the Constitution.
This thing is going to be solved only by a very tough, centralized, harsh government read by a guy who will really kick posteriors.
It cannot be tenderness and love.
And I know my good friend Jared Taylor doesn't believe that.
And I don't like to believe that.
But honestly, that's what it's going to take.
I've boiled it down to this.
It's going to take a lot more than soap and water to clean up this mess.
And we're not going to be able to do it with, my God.
I mean, we're standing here with portraits of some of our greatest heroes as Southerners.
President Davis, Robert E. Lee, Stonewall Jackson, Nathan Bedford Forrest.
God bless them.
I mean, they fought, but it's going to take something that even they weren't prepared to deliver at this point.
Yeah, these people, our country has been colonized.
We've had almost 20 million colonists brought in by Biden alone.
The white liberals seem to have the idea that these people are going to be grateful to them and that they're going to be, oh, thank you so much.
No, you look at these people.
Go into Oriental-owned stores and see the way they treat Native-born Americans.
They don't see themselves as the beneficiaries of charity and kindness.
They see themselves as Cortez and Pizarro.
And no monuments to the chief of the Supreme Court on the Brown decision either, right now.
The Brown decision, by the way, was yesterday.
It's the 70th anniversary.
Wow, it was May 17th.
70th anniversary.
You know, when communism was breaking up in Russia, people used to carry signs and demonstrations demanding the overthrow of the communist government, reading, 70 years on the road to nowhere.
And that's been the case with Brown versus Topeka.
As I point out to people, there have been no studies that show that mixing the races ever helped black people.
If there were such studies, liberals tell me, oh, that's got to be true.
I say, well, if there were studies that showed that blacks scores on SAT tests jumped 100 points and their IQs jumped 10 points five years after the busing plans, we'd be hearing about it all the time.
For three generations, we've pursued policies that have utterly failed.
Sam Dixon, ladies and gentlemen, you haven't heard the last of him yet.
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Brother Dixon, yes, we'll be right back.
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We are going to try to play all the songs you want to hear tonight and have one all-star after another.
We actually have this embarrassment of riches right now, the top two, top two most interviewed guests of all time on this program here at the same time, at the same place, and the same hour.
And that's Sam Dixon, who you just heard from.
And now, Jared Taylor, of course, the editor of American.
Nobody needs to know who Jared is.
Everybody knows who Jared is.
Jared, I will tell you this, though.
There may be some things, and this is certainly not a secret.
All of your friends know this.
But for maybe a first-time Amrin attendee, they may not know just how much you are a loyal son of the South and your reverence and your affection for your Southern forebears.
Well, I try not to talk about it too much because I get so emotional I can't maintain my composure.
Best not to talk about just how much of a Southerner I am.
And I told a story about somebody asked me, well, why are you pro-Confederate?
And I said, well, that's so absurd.
It's like asking me, why am I pro-me, for heaven's sake?
I was born this way.
I love being this way.
But I think we as southerners, we are blessed with having the blood of a special group of heroes in our veins and our veins alone.
These were wonderful, wonderful, loyal, brave men who fought for four awful years against a far larger force.
And I believe that we must forever admire them for their devotion unto death.
talked about this today.
Everybody understands the tree and the branches, our European tree.
These are all our brothers and our cousins.
But there's that one branch, and it only existed for four years.
But those who share in that blood are certainly part of a fraternity that only they can, only we can belong to.
And there's something very special about that.
And yes, they were right.
There have been other people, groups who were right, other causes who were right throughout the course of history.
They were right.
But they also fought.
And because they fought and because they fought, and if you have the blood of those fighting men in your veins, I think that sets you apart.
I do think that makes you special when compared to some of the other people on this continent.
Well, you know, when I was younger and I'd read about Lee and Jackson's men marshaling for Chancellorsville, we're going to whip those Yankees, and I'd get all excited.
We did do it there.
I can't bear to read even about those battles anymore.
Because all of those poor Yankee boys, they were fine white men, too.
It was just such a tragedy, start to finish.
And I'll talk today about some of the great things that our ancestors did.
Well, our opponents were brave men, too.
They were fighting.
They were devoted unto death, just as our ancestors were.
Now, they were in the wrong.
They were invaders.
And as my mom said, she was a liberal to her dying day, which is, of course we had to kill them.
They were invaders.
But they were doing, they were doing, as some of these British observers said, who wrote about our war.
They said on each side, there were noble, gallant men doing what was their duty.
You are right about that, Jared.
You are right about that.
And that could be extrapolated to certainly both world wars.
Oh, awful.
Oh, horrible.
Who lost those wars?
Who lost the war between the states?
Whites did.
Period.
And that is it.
We did.
We all did.
The winners lost too.
We all lost those wars.
And, you know, when you look at the winners, so-called, of the Second World War, gosh, that war was the beginning of the decline of what was at one time, I believe, the greatest nation in the world.
Look at the history of Great Britain.
Look at the civilization, the language, the culture, the heritage.
They spread all around the world.
That is our mother country.
And then look at Britain today.
They are some of the most whining, self-loathing white people.
And Brother Sam was talking about how the government itself is now diligently punishing people who have the slightest impulse to fight the great replacement.
This is just an awful come down for a People who were such, such powerful, wonderful empire builders and spreaders of civilization.
And that literally happened within a generation or two at most.
I mean, you're talking about World War II.
You went from, of course, the saying we all know, the sun never set on the British Empire.
They don't even control the streets of their capital city anymore.
And that happened within a lifetime.
Yes, yes.
And now their capital city.
Majority non-white.
For heaven's sake, you can go into neighborhoods practically without ever seeing a white person.
No.
This kind of, and there was at one time, I guess it's not the case now, although I know I'm not sure whether a Kirstar is an improvement on Rishi Sunak, but there was at one time when the Irish Prime Minister, the Scottish Prime Minister, the Welsh Prime Minister, and the Prime Minister of England, every one of them was an empire origin wag, as they used to call it.
You're seeing tremors over there, though, and unfortunately, what we were talking about last week has dissipated to a large degree, but you are seeing unrest now.
I just wonder if it'll ever be.
Unfortunately, our people aren't paid demonstrators like our opponents are.
They can go out there, get paid.
They'll never be arrested.
If they are, they'll get paid for their trouble.
They'll get bailed out.
They won't do any time.
They'll get settlements and all of that.
And then our people actually have to go to work at 9 o'clock the next morning, and they have families, and they're facing very serious persecution and imprisonment.
And so it's certainly an apples and oranges comparison to what the left can do with their demonstrations versus what we can do.
But there is a volcanic level of discontent that is bubbling up right underneath the surface.
Boy, do I wish it could vent in a big way.
Well, I always applaud white men who stand up for their own interests.
But because of so many of the headwinds we face, both physical and moral and legal, they cannot go about it in this primitive juvenile way.
They can't be setting fires.
They can't be looting stores.
By all means, demonstrate and make your feelings felt.
March in numbers.
Shout loudly.
But every time a store burns down, every time there's violence against the police, the image that the world is going to see is give them the idea that any white people who want to stand up for their people are just thugs, looters, arsonists.
I hope that this is just the juvenile first step of what will mature into a much more effective and disciplined and forceful expression of white British nationhood.
Of course, they don't say that about the other folks.
No, no, it works for them.
It works for them.
Natural and healthy.
And that's encouraged.
Yes, yes, yes.
No, if you're a Black Lives Matter demonstrator, you can burn and loot all you want.
No problem.
And it gets them what they want.
It will not get us.
If you oversee the burning and looting, you'll be a vice presidential candidate, even.
That's right.
And our presidential candidate now contributed to a fund to bail them out of jail.
That's right.
Amrin.com for Jared Taylor.
You don't need to know that.
You do know that.
You're probably there every day as I am, amrin.com.
Of course, we are here now live.
I am looking at Jared Taylor.
Normally, when he's on all of these appearances over the year, most of the time, he's on the phone.
We're doing a call-in.
But tonight is one of those special occasions where I am about a foot away from this man here at the Southern Cultural Center, SouthernCulturalCenter.com.
We have about a minute before the break.
We're going to do something very special in the next segment.
I am seating my mic to my betters, and Sam and Jared will take the mics, and they will have a conversation.
They will have perhaps some questions for one another, and we'll just see what theme and what topic they settle on.
We don't know.
It's unscripted.
We'll find out.
But, Jared, give us a minute, just a little bit more about your talk today that perhaps for those who weren't here, that they'd need to know.
Well, first of all, when it comes to holding a mic, you have no betters, James.
False modesty will get you nowhere.
I've said many times, you have the talent.
You could have gone far in the mainstream, and we are so lucky that you have lent your talents to our cause.
Now, oh, listen to that.
Yes.
Yes.
Yeah.
Thank you all.
Thank you, Jared.
That means a lot coming from you.
No, you are one of our heroes.
You are absolutely one of our heroes.
I suppose in a nutshell, my remarks are very similar to those of Mr. Tommy with the League of the South and with Sam.
We have to realize that this is no longer our country and cannot be our country.
When I first started American Renaissance 30 years ago, I thought, you know, we could set the train back on the tracks.
I just don't think that's possible.
That is something in the evolution of your thought and your mindset that is a relatively new manifestation.
Well, I've probably thought that for eight or ten years.
I'm finally saying it openly.
And on the one hand, some people are going to find that discouraging.
If you say, look, it doesn't make any difference who you vote for this year, four years from now, 40 years from now, they say, oh my gosh, it's finished.
Nothing we can do.
No, that's not the point.
That's not the point at all.
We have to have a different mindset.
Sam Dixon for years has been talking about abjuring the realm, recognizing that this is not our country anymore.
We have to think in terms of getting beyond this country.
The Constitution is not going to save us.
When people are talking about going back to the Constitution, I'd like to point out that the Constitution of Liberia, adopted in 1847, is practically a carbon copy of ours.
It just goes to show you, a piece of paper will not do the trick.
It will not do the trick.
One thing people need to remember: nothing matters except what is best for our people.
Our people and what is best for them.
We can operate under a lot of different systems of governments, a lot of different ideologies.
A lot of things have worked for our people over the course of our history.
We should not be married to ideology or forms of government or constitutions or anything.
What is best for our people?
That is the one and only question we should ask.
And our people can thrive under a lot of different circumstances and a lot of different setups.
We'll be right back.
Jared Taylor will join forces with Sam Dixon next.
Big round of applause.
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And we're back.
We are building up.
We've been building up this hour.
We're kicking it off at the Southern Cultural Center, SouthernCulturalCenter.com with Mike Wharton.
You're going to be hearing from Ed Boardwine, Cliff McGarr, Brad Griffin in the second hour as well.
But we took one segment after the other.
Earlier this hour, Sam Dixon, then Jared Taylor.
But now Sam and Jared will be on together.
And by the way, I know a lot of folks got this yesterday.
We have one copy left.
There is a fantastic QA with Sam Dixon in this particular issue of the Barnes Review.
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We've got one copy left if anybody wants it.
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Okay, come on, Ed.
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Anyway, so we are going to turn the microphone over.
We've got 10 minutes in this segment.
We'll let Jared set the table.
And Jared and Sam are going to take this show over and we're going to see what they deliver.
My goodness, this is a heavy, heavy responsibility, James.
I stand in awe of Jared.
I certainly am not on Jared's level.
I am his loyal liegeman and follower.
That doesn't mean we always agree.
No.
But clearly, he is the battleship, the flagship, and I'm the canoe.
Anyway.
Bobbing in my wake?
No, no, no.
Hardly that.
Well, you're like James Edwards.
You're somebody who has given decades of very effective work.
For me, this has been an avocation.
For you, it's been life's calling.
Well, that does not by any means diminish from the many wonderful things you've done for our people.
You were involved in this since practically before I was born.
Yes.
A difference between you and me is that I came gradually to an understanding of the significance of race.
I grew up in a liberal, although southern household.
My mother was a kind of character who's now extinct.
She was a liberal on everything, from gay rights to integration.
But when it came to the South, she was a southern woman to the tips of her toes all the way to the tips of her fingers.
She thought that there was no man closer to God Almighty than Robert E. Lee.
And this was by no means a contradiction to her liberalism politically.
So, although I was a southerner, all the air I breathed was generally liberal.
I went to college in the 1960s.
Everything was liberal.
It took me till I was maybe 35 years old before I figured out stuff that you recognized when you were 12.
So you were way ahead of the game.
This is something I say these days.
I meet young fellows who are coming up in the movement.
By the time they're 25, they know more than I did when I was 50.
It's very, very impressive to me, the young people.
Encouraging.
Yes, yes.
And I said a couple of months ago, I was at a meeting, and I said, there's only one good thing about being old, and that is that I can look out on all of these wonderful young people, and I can have confidence that they are going to fix this horrible mess that we have left to them.
Well, things are much better today, but I wanted to touch on this idea of the war is glorious.
I think we as Southerners glorify the war.
But the war was, as you said, a terrible tragedy for both sides.
And white people need to be able to sit down and think racially and act racially and not get into this competition with each other like the North and South did, like England and Germany did.
You've got to work together.
Had that money that was expended and the blood expended in the war been used to bring about a solution to the problem of this alien race living with us and creating a nation for them in Africa, we could have done it, I've read, with the money that was spent in the very first year of the war.
I don't doubt that that's true.
And you're, of course, very familiar with the American Colonization Society.
The people who were not just members, but officers read like an honor roll from American history.
All of the wise men of that era realized that this was an insoluble problem.
Thomas Jefferson's expression for the fact of having blacks in his country, we have the wolf by the ears.
We can neither hold him nor let him go.
And keeping people in slavery was an awful thing.
But the alternative was, in the words of many of our southern ancestors, Negro pandemonium.
And people don't use that expression anymore, but I think that's a pretty fit explanation, pretty fit description of what we have today.
It was a terrible, terrible mistake.
And the longer that mistake continues, the more difficult a solution becomes.
But as you pointed out, Americans have always wanted easy solutions.
They've never sat down and carried out a sensible, real solution.
They always wanted to talk their way out of things and be nice.
This just doesn't work.
Another thing I was curious, you mentioned the elements of the demonstrations in Britain that did break out store windows and burned a couple of hotels and set fire to them.
I like to contrast that with the Algerians.
When the Algerians in North Africa decided to take their country back from the French and the French colonists, do you think they did more than smash out some store windows?
But they were viewed as heroes.
No one reproaches them.
So once again, we see, as with two-tier care, there's one set of values that applies to white people and another to non-whites.
That's exactly right.
And that's why we have to be so careful about what we do.
I know it's so hard.
It's so hard to rise above our fury at these terrible injustices done to us, but unless we are able to master our passions, this problem will simply continue.
I know it's a difficult, difficult thing to ask of people who realize that their country is being thrown away, handed to people who utterly do not deserve it.
But we have to do it.
We have to master ourselves.
You have to master your emotions, which you didn't do in your speech today.
You became very emotional.
Very un-Presbyterian.
We do not ever give way to emotion.
That's one of the reasons.
That's one of the reasons I hate to talk about Southern heritage.
I just get so weepy and emotional about it.
It's a terrible thing.
The older I get, the weaker I get, the more womanish I get.
It's a terrible thing.
But my wife says she finds it adorable.
But I don't find it adorable at all.
I can imagine me leading a charge up against the enemy.
Men, for your sweethearts, for Virginia.
No, I'd be overcome by emotion, and I would be no good.
But anyway, I do feel these things very strongly.
Well, I think back my great-grandfather, I've said I have a tremendous Confederate heritage.
I'm descended from the only private ever to serve in the Confederate Army.
Everybody else, at least, a colonel.
But he walked 400 miles back from Appomattox to the ruins of South Carolina and set about putting his life back in order as did others.
You compare that to the widespread whimpering and carrying on that you see in our society today.
Those people were tough.
You know, they'd never even heard of PTSD either.
They were absolutely tough.
It is absolutely incredible the hardships they went through.
And sometimes I wonder if we are really the direct physical descendants of those people.
Even the men who landed on the beach at Taroa or Iojima, Guadalcanal, those men were tough.
They were tough in a way that it's hard to imagine Americans being tough today.
We have been so weakened by a combination of many things.
The Roman satirist said that luxury is more ruthless than war.
And that's certainly part of it.
Life is so easy.
By comparison to 99.99% of the people who have ever walked the planet, we are unspeakably rich.
We live pampered, luxurious, effortless lives.
And I think this saps us in all sorts of ways.
I remember years ago, somebody who had been in the movement much longer than I, he said to me, look, so long as there is cold beer and so long as there is a game on the TV, the white man won't never wake up.
Well, I think we see evidence all the time of white people beginning to wake up.
And that's one reason why I'm so cheerful.
I see so many people, the scales have fallen from their eyes.
They see what is at stake, and they're prepared to do something about it.
Well, hard times are coming.
Let the bad times roll.
And, you know, there's an old English saying, experience keeps a cruel school, but fools will learn from no other.
It appears that our people have to suffer, just like Sophocles said in Oedipus Rex, that all praise to Zeus, who putting man upon the road of mortal life, made this a changeless law that man shall learn by suffering.
Well, the trouble is, so many of our people suffer and don't learn.
But you're going to vote for Kamala then, right?
Let the bad times roll.
I couldn't bring myself to do that.
I shouldn't have put you on the spot.
So, well, brother.
What kind of leader and program is going to be needed to set this right, Comrade Taylor?
You know, that's always the most difficult question.
I mean, as Brother Edwards is saying, we're already at fixed bayonets in charge.
But where's the quartermaster?
Where's the uniform?
Who's got the plan?
Where's the map?
Where are the enemies in their serried ranks?
What is so difficult about our fight is, unlike what our ancestors faced, our enemies are not all dressed up in nice uniforms.
We know exactly who they are and who are shooting at us.
No, it is a much more difficult thing.
And one of the reasons why my approach to our opponents is different from yours is that there have to be more people who agree with us.
And these are our wavered brothers and sisters.
Some of them are irreconcilable and cannot be salvaged.
Some of them are gone forever.
But I believe many, many, many of them can be won over to us if we approach them with love and acceptance.
I know that's a hard thing to do.
Ladies and gentlemen, how about these two?
Did you like what you just heard?
We cannot do it any better than that.
Sam Dixon and Jared Taylor.
One hour down from the Southern Cultural Center here in Wetumka, Alabama.
We'll be back.
Two more hours to come.
Gentlemen.
Thank you.
Oh, thank you very much.
Shake of the hand.
We're going to have Sam Dixon do an autograph here of this Barnes review for Mr. Bordwine.