July 6, 2024 - The Political Cesspool - James Edwards
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You're listening to the Liberty News Radio Network, and this is the Political Cesspool.
The Political Cesspool, going across the South and worldwide as the South's foremost populist conservative radio program.
And here to guide you through the murky waters of the Political Cesspool is your host, James Edwards.
Oh, say, can you see by the dawn's early light what so proudly we hailed at the twilight's last leaning, whose brought stripes and bright stars through?
The perilous fights or the ramparts we watched were so gallantly streaming and the rockets rock along.
The bombs bursting in air gave proof through the night that a flag was still there.
Oh saint, does that star spangled?
Then they get.
Wave for the land of the home of the brave.
Welcome back, ladies and gentlemen, to our live broadcast from South Carolina tonight.
It's an annual tradition that I wouldn't break for the world.
A lot of travel for me in the last uh week, but uh, travel well spent and uh, we are back and uh feeding now off the energy of uh so much talent here in the room.
Mark Tommy of the League OF THE South Mark and I were just talking about the Star-spangled Banner.
Mark uh, I have restated my position on this every Yankee Memorial Day, every fourth of july.
I don't allow the Union flag on my property.
Dixie is the only national anthem that i'll place a hand over my heart for, but but and we may disagree here, brother if you look at the words of the Star-spangled Banner and apply it to a cause that we share, I think it's a good anthem.
I think it's a beautiful song.
Well, as I was just telling Rich, Just as close, yeah, just no, you're on, just as all the way up to the mic.
Okay, perfect.
As I was telling Rich just before we were coming, or as we were coming out of the break, is that I can appreciate it from a historical context.
That's right.
The only context there is to appreciate it.
But, you know, the last line of the song where it talks about the land of the free and the home of the brave, you know, I take umbrage with that.
Okay.
You know, I don't think we live in a free land anymore.
I don't think there's anything.
I think you're right.
Especially for we southerners.
You know, we have been a conquered and occupied province of the Yankee Empire since 1865.
And so, you know, we've not been allowed to, by them, to order and control our own institutions and celebrate our own way of life.
It's no mystery that in the last few years, especially, everything that we hold dear and love about our ancestors, our history and everything has been denigrated, destroyed, vandalized.
And so, you know, all that's done under the banner of the U.S. flag and the U.S. government, you know, that I have an easier time separating the song and the lyrics from that time from the flag today.
I personally do.
We're not going to get mired down in this bog.
But if you go back to, again, I was talking about Francis Scott Key, you're looking at that.
They fought, and they were facing sure death if they lost.
And I can respect it from that.
The southern states were a part of that until 1861.
So this is, I guess, the question that would be interesting to hear you answer is, how do you reconcile all of this?
You know, on the 4th of July, I like to get together.
A reason to get the family together and eat and shooting fireworks is fun, you know, for the kids.
We all enjoy that.
But is it more a celebration of a corpse?
Because anything you're celebrating has been dead since at least 1861.
Oh, yeah.
1865.
Yeah, no doubt about it.
I mean, you know, for the average American, in air quotes there, you know, the 4th of July is nothing more now than just a day to be off work and drink beer and barbecue.
And, you know, yesterday I was wearing a shirt that had the word secede on it.
And I told the young man that I was with, I said, this word right here is what the 4th of July is all about.
That's right.
And the average American has no idea about that anymore.
The average American does not realize that the Declaration of Independence was an ordinance of secession from the British Army.
It's all about, if you win or lose, that's what matters.
You're a patriot if you win, you're a traitor if you lose.
But you're doing the exact same action.
I'm like Hunter, though.
I was talking with Hunter, our friend here, and I go and I buy fire as many as I can afford the prices these days.
We always get a little assortment for the kids.
And anyone that has a Confederate flag, because of course they're all made in China, and you can still find a lot of fireworks with Confederate flags.
I get them all.
We shoot those.
Well, you know, for me personally, you know, the 4th of July, I've told people for many years now that for me, it's a day of mourning because on July 4th, 1863, my ancestors were being surrendered at Vicksburg, Mississippi to the besieging Yankee armies.
Gettysburg was fought on the 4th of July.
And on the 3rd of July, the Army of Northern Virginia was limping back home to Virginia from the battlefields of Gettysburg.
That was it.
My people were losing their independence on the 4th of July in 1863.
They were not celebrating it.
And it's an interesting fact that a lot of your listeners may find compelling.
From 1863 until 1945, at the end of World War II, the city of Vicksburg did not celebrate the 4th of July.
And a friend of mine lived there for a while, and there was a story about some northerners who moved down there in the 1920s.
And on the 4th of July, they wanted to go out on the banks of the Mississippi River and have a picnic.
And somehow or another, the brake on his car gave way, and it rolled off into the river.
And all the people around Vicksburg said, well, that's what they get for celebrating the 4th of July.
So, you know, would God that the Southern people would circle back to that attitude, you know, and realize that the United States is not their country.
The U.S. flag is not their flag.
What the United States has always been does not fit any of the definitions of the word of nation or country.
Okay.
We were talking about this earlier, and I've told people for years, you know, I'm a word nerd.
And so I go to the Oxford English Dictionary and I look at the definition of a nation.
And it says that a nation is a group of people that shares a common ethnicity, language, culture, religion, history, and occupies a certain place on the face of the earth.
And if you look at the etymology of the word, it comes from the Latin word natio, which means to be born.
So there is an express genetic component of nationhood.
It's about people.
It's not about a geopolitical boundary.
And so by that definition, the United States does not qualify as a nation.
And the dictionary defines the country as a nation with its own government.
So Alabama is a nation.
Virginia is a nation, you know, or is a country.
The United States is not a country.
The United States is nothing more than the federal government that was created by the adoption of the U.S. Constitution.
Statesmen North and South in the antebellum period never referred to the U.S. as a country or a nation.
They always referred to it as a union.
That was the universal term.
All of this nation stuff in relation to the United States didn't come about until after the war and the advent of Reconstruction and then Francis Bellamy's infamous socialist pledge to the U.S. flag.
I just had this idea that the union is sort of like Hotel California.
You can check in anytime.
You can never leave.
A friend of mine back in Louisiana once said that there are only two institutions that once you join, you can never leave.
And one is hell and the other is the Federal Union.
All right.
So getting to this, let's talk about when it went wrong.
Thinking about Independence Day, this is another from our friend Brad Griffin.
No women signed the Declaration of Independence or the Constitution.
It was white men who fought and died in the Revolution.
There were no BIPOC people who signed it, no trans.
Blacks were covered in the Constitution by the Fugitive Slave Clause and Three-Fifths Compromise.
Black Indians gained American citizenship in 1866 and 1860, or excuse me, 1924, respectively.
The Founding Fathers created a white republic in the Constitution that shaped who could become an American citizen in the 1950s.
American citizenship was based on whiteness.
It wasn't just white people who created America and who fought and who died in the American Revolution.
It was overwhelmingly Anglo-Saxons, Anglo-Americans, Americans of British ancestry.
It was our ancestors who created America's institutions in our image.
European immigrants were invited to come here and become Americans, which meant becoming like us and adopting our customs.
The American idea, which was radical at the time, was the notion that white men could govern themselves in sovereign communities, which we call our states.
It was the Lincoln administration, which reversed the relationship between the states and the federal government prior to the war between the states.
The government was tiny and the states tended to their own affairs.
It was Lincoln, not the founders, who created consolidated despotism.
America was thought of and thought of itself as an Anglo-Saxon and Protestant nation up until the 1930s.
This was the dominant view until, in fact, after World War II.
In the 21st century, woke progressives have completely rejected America's traditional national identity.
They have rejected white identity, Anglo-Saxon culture, Protestant Christianity, and now even liberal republicanism.
And yet, these people, whose beliefs are so foreign to us in origin, call us the extremists.
We know where it went wrong.
What could the South have done differently that would have stopped this from happening had we been successful?
To have followed the advice of Patrick Henry and smelled the rat and never have joined the federal union in the first place.
You know, historians have explored this topic a lot.
And one thing that a theme that repeats itself over and over again, regardless of the source, is that you had two diametrically opposed civilizations that were trying to compromise with each other and come together under a single form of government.
And at some point, it was inevitable, because of their differences in worldview and morality and politics, that one was going to pervert this new system to its advantage and to the disadvantage of the other.
And, of course, history shows us that the South was on the short end of the stick as far as that goes.
And so, you know, we have been the whipping boy of this glorious union for a century and a half now.
And, you know, I, for one, am sick and tired of it.
I would like for our people to wake up from the stupor they've been in for so long, giving their allegiance, giving their blood, their children, sacrificing them on the altar of the American empire when that empire hates them and everything that they love and stand for.
You know, I would rather our people wake up to the reality that those people, as General Lee used to call them, are never going to accept us as their countrymen.
They're always going to look at us as somehow beneath them and that we need to be controlled and kept in check.
And so, you know, why would anybody in their right mind want to be a subject of such a ruthless and godless and hateful empire when we could be free and self-governing?
All right, Mark Tommy from the League of the South.
Mark, a final word, quick, final parting shot, and by all means, plug the League.
Well, you know, for those of you who think the idea of southern independence is a good thing, the League of the South has been around for 30 years now.
We've been pushing the idea of southern independence.
You know, give us a look.
Come and see what we've got.
We've got 30 years of material out there making our arguments.
You know, give some serious consideration to the fact that you're never going to be looked upon as a good American by those outside of the South.
You are always going to be looked upon as something lesser than they are.
And it would be better for us to strike out on our own.
We've done all kinds of, we could be an energy giant, we could be an agricultural giant, we would be a military giant, and we would be able to do it on our own without the overbearing control of the U.S. government.
You know, there's no practical reason why the South cannot be free and prosperous.
It's just a matter of our people finally having their crawl full of all this nonsense.
Donald Trump is not going to save you.
He's not going to make America great again.
He's a lesser symptom of the same disease that is the U.S. Empire.
Give it up and strike for your independence.
God save the South.
There he is, ladies and gentlemen.
There he is.
Thank you, Mark Tommy.
Thank you, James.
It's always a pleasure.
It is difficult without taking a break for you to get off the saddle here.
Take off your headset and pass the mic around without too much rumbling and fumbling here.
We're going to toss it over to Rich Hamblin for a quick word.
Rich, long-standing dear friend, he and his wife, Janice, who's always with us on ladies' nights here on TPC, we went out and had a nice dinner.
Dinner.
Yeah, we had dinner today at about 12 o'clock.
Yankees have lunch.
We have dinner.
All right, Rich, give us, I don't know, just talk about anything you want to talk about.
I'm not even going to set a table for you and set a topic.
You can respond to anything you heard from Sam or anything you want to say that you think needs to be said.
Well, thank you for having me on.
I agree wholeheartedly with Mark.
I've been in the league since, off and on, since 1995.
I think I've been in it longer than he has, actually.
And I've seen the organization develop a coherent body of work on the topic of secession and the nature of the union and what are some possible solutions.
And I don't personally celebrate 4th of July.
I haven't for a long time.
I don't really care for the Star-Spangled Banner.
And Sam was just admonishing me on text message.
I said, listen, I like the tune.
Let's repurpose the lyrics.
I think it's a good song.
But anyway, I'm willing to stand alone on that one.
Here at South Carolina, southern as I am, I do like the song.
But I separate it from the union and the flag and all of that.
But anyway, I'm defending myself too much.
Go ahead, Rich.
But, you know, here's, you know, South Carolina is a home of secession, so you should be.
Listen, I want you to know, ladies and gentlemen, there's not a single Yankee flag in the House tonight.
I see several hundred.
I see several hundred at least Confederate flags and one Duke for, is that president?
Yeah, Duke for President hat on this gentleman.
And I was just down with David last week.
Yes, Duke for President.
A lot of, that's right.
We're in the right place.
We certainly are.
We'll take exception with Sam Dixon on, his statement that the founders didn't think very clearly when it came to nation or the country.
It's hard to argue with Sam.
I've done it before, and I've always found out in the, well, not argue, but I've, at some points in my life, I have disagreed with Sam only to, as I have become older and wiser, found out I was wrong.
Well, in particular, I think the founders were very clear, or not the founders, but state of members of the first Congress when they passed the first Immigration Act.
And it restricted it to white Christian Europeans.
I think Sam's argument is in this day of ignorance and apathy that all men are created equal.
That just supersedes everything.
And we could trot all of these out.
I mean, yes, I mentioned the Naturalization Act and limiting citizenship to free white men of good standing.
I mean, that would disqualify most free white men today.
But good character.
But anyway, yes, Casey.
And the other thing is I just fundamentally disagree with the need for a centralized government.
I don't think that was the intention of the people that fought the war for independence.
And we had a decentralized government for the first, what, 17, well, the articles were adopted in 1781.
And then they were immediately attacked by the people that wanted to make a consolidated government.
I see what you're saying at that time.
Although we liked some centralized governments in Europe in the 20th century, I think you're going to have to have some sort of authoritarianism.
You're going to have to have some sort of strongman to, it's going to take a lot more than soap and water to clean up this mess.
Well, that's another question.
But if we didn't have that to start with, we wouldn't have that problem to be dealing with.
And there was a spirit of that alive in 1861 when the states of the lower south seceded first, and then the four states, I think it's four, of the upper south seceded when Lincoln made a call for troops to subdue the South, the state city.
That's when our state of Tennessee got on board.
Tennessee voted, you know, your audience may or may not know that Tennessee voted twice on secession, once before Fort Sumter and once after.
They got it right, though, in the end.
Correct.
The vote before Fort Sumter was to stay in the Union.
But once Lincoln made a call for troops, then Tennessee overwhelmingly voted to leave the Union.
It stayed, you know, and it stayed out until the very bitter end.
Thank God for that.
I don't know what Forrest would have done if it had stayed a union.
I guess he'd have been a copperhead.
Well, Forrest always said he liked the old flag and he'd like the old Constitution and all that kind of stuff.
But most people don't realize it.
Our great warrior.
The South was fighting for the Constitution.
It was the North that was trying to rip it asunder.
And you can see that by the period of Reconstruction, the Reconstruction Acts and the Reconstruction amendments, which changed forever the character of this union.
All right, Rich, give us the final word.
Anything that you think needs to be said and shared and heard on this program tonight?
You've always got something.
My phone lights up most shows with corrections and suggestions.
And of course, the program is always made better by it.
Well, I'm glad you appreciate my commentary.
Just everybody needs to stay strong.
I'm approaching the latter, the twilight years of my life.
I've been around.
We can't spare you, though.
We can't spare any of our older people.
Regardless, I remember how things were in this country as recently as 50 years ago.
And we've got a lot of ground to recover.
That was something, yes, that wasn't that long ago.
I mean, not really.
No, when I was a kid, we sang Dixie in Hell.
Let me tell you something.
I went to a private Christian school in the 1980s, and we did the pledge, and then we sang Dixie.
We sang Dixie at Briarcrash Christian School.
I'm going to call them out because I'm proud of that.
They'd be ashamed of it.
They'd be really ashamed of that now.
They're going to catch hell for me mentioning that.
But it was a wonderful upbringing in the 80s.
I mean, the 80s are a world apart from where we are today.
But even then at private Christian schools, which were, of course, segregation academies, it was well known.
They didn't even bother to deny it back then, even as late as when I was in school.
But we would sing Dixie, and it was a wonderful upbringing.
These small private Christian academies.
And, of course, all that's long gone now because, as you mentioned, Rich, with the having to be accredited, they have to go through the same.
So it's basically like as our friend Drew Frazier in Australia puts it, Christian schools now are like MSNBC at prayer.
You get the same history, you get the same all of this, but you get to say a few Bible verses too.
They want uniformity, and all I can say is people need to stand strong on their principles.
Don't put their faith in false prophets.
No matter how much you like the current, you know, just like the current regime, the change may not be one necessarily for the better.
And just do not, you know, do not be misled.
We're going to toss it with about a minute or two remaining this segment to our friend Steve Weitner, who has a fantastic show on the Republic Broadcasting Network.
You can keep that mic, Rich.
You had Rich on earlier today.
Tell us about your show.
Tell us why you're here.
Always good to see him shaking Steve's hand right now.
Steve Weitner, you were at our anniversary event back in May as well.
Yes.
You got it.
Oh, thanks.
Thanks for having me as always, James.
Yes, it was three years ago at the Dixie Fest that we first met.
Oh, okay, yeah, that we first met, and it's been great.
You know, I felt like I came home for Christmas the first time I was here, y'all.
It was awesome, man.
It was great to meet everybody.
That's where I first met Mike Gaddy, and it was the second week that I had done the show on the Republic Broadcasting Network.
And my show's called Thought Crime Live.
It's every Saturday morning, 9 to 11 Eastern Time, and I think of it as Saturday morning cartoons for thought criminals.
Now, and I had Richard, I had Richard on today, as well as Kyle McDermott, who wrote that book, The Declaration of White Independence, that's available here at the Dixie Republic.
And, you know, it's three years ago, I think I have worn a cross, a St. Andrews Cross shirt everywhere I've been since then, pretty much.
And not until last week did I get a negative response from anybody.
You know, I meet more like-minded people, you know, absolutely.
Yeah.
And, you know, I just, you know, one out of three years, one time, that shows you that maybe we think we're isolated because we don't get together like this enough.
You know, I don't feel like I think in actuality, maybe we surround them.
And, you know, we got to do something about this.
I remember after the election, people will go and say, not my president, right?
Well, we need to start saying, not my government, okay?
You know, not my government here.
Mark Common, Rick Campbell, we're going to take a break.
Thank you, Steve.
Check him out at RBN, Republic Broadcasting Network, Thought Crime Live on Saturday morning.
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Is everybody halfway through the show?
You still having a good time?
They're having a good time.
Receiving some correspondence from our first hour guest, Sam, and I'm going to read it here.
Francis Scott Key wrote the anthem in the War of 1812.
I hope I didn't misstate because I don't think I said he wrote it during the Revolutionary War, but if I did, I didn't mean to.
The War of 1812 and his life was never at risk.
Of greater interest, though, is the fact that he was on board the board of directors for the American Colonization Society.
We need to make this better known so the rival races and the Woolsters will demand the anthem be shredded.
You should mention that Key was a prominent figure in the ACS whose policy was repatriation to Africa.
I mentioned to Sam, and we're texting right now.
Going to mention that as soon as we come back.
Sam responds, great.
I like Key and the Star-Spangled Banner, Sam writes.
Eleanor Roosevelt disliked the anthem and wanted it changed.
So more from Sam, even though he's not on the air.
And as a matter of fact, it was fitting that we share that right then because we have a guest now joining us, Nick from the UK.
And about an hour before the show started, somehow, some way, your presence here was widely known.
Sam said, please tell Nick that I said hello.
So I'm delivering the message now live on the air.
Sam says hello to Nick from the UK.
Nick, you and I have been in.
This is not Nick Griffin, by the way, but another great Nick.
And we've been in contact for years and years and years.
Our first time to meet you, you came all the way over from the UK to be here in South Carolina.
Yep, I did indeed.
Put it like that.
There you go.
I did indeed.
And I have to say, it's an honor to be here sitting here.
You said it's a little bit different than the BBC studio.
It is.
It's very different.
For the last three months, I've been sitting in the BBC studio.
So it's been a very hostile environment.
But tonight's far opposite from being hostile.
And it's an honor to be here tonight speaking to you, James.
I've listened to Cesspool now probably since about 2009.
Wow.
So it's a long time.
Wow.
I'm 31 now.
So yes, I would have been about 19 at the time.
God bless you.
What kept you tuned in all these years?
As close to the bike as you can.
Just the content, the guests you have, been absolutely superb.
And yeah, it's an absolute honor to be here tonight.
Honored to have you.
I mean, I thought coming from West Tennessee was a long trip.
Listen, folks, coming from the UK to be in South Carolina for Dixie Fest, and give it, if anybody deserves it, right here.
Well, I was here two years ago.
And actually, I dismissed Dixie Fest by weeks.
So this time I made sure that during my road trip, I would make sure it coincide with Dixie Fest.
So far, I've enjoyed my really have enjoyed myself.
And I've met so many people.
And all of those years, we were in touch and in contact on Twitter before my ban.
And of course, the last couple of years, we had lost touch.
But when I heard you were here, I couldn't believe it.
I've never met him before, but we've talked for all of these years.
And anyway, the topic of Nick Griffin came up, who, of course, was on the show a couple of weeks ago.
And when Nick was on a couple of weeks ago, he was sort of, he was talking about the recent EU elections and then sort of giving a preview for the elections in the UK, which, of course, came to pass a few days ago.
And now you can tell us the rest of the story.
What happened?
So predictably, the Labour Party, the far left, openly socialist party, which over here, you know, an openly socialist movement, you know, that'd be a big, big taboo.
But in Britain and in the rest of Europe, it isn't.
And unfortunately, we now have a socialist government.
But you know what?
We've had 14 years of a treacherous so-called conservative party who have opened up the borders more than any other government have in previous governments.
And you know what?
I'm glad to see the back of them.
So yes, we may have socialists in charge now, but I'd rather socialists in charge than traitors.
Hey!
Yeah, that's right.
That's right.
So let's talk about this new PM.
So he is a human rights lawyer by trade.
So that basically says everything you need to know about him.
He is extremely left-wing, extremely woke.
He's going to do his utmost best to clamp down on all dissident voices across the UK, which is obviously a reason for concern.
But do you know what?
We had the same happening under the Conservative rule.
Things, it's hard to really imagine things getting any worse, but they always seem to get worse.
When you think they can't, they always seem to get worse.
So we'll see what happens.
But what it is important to stress is that the whole of the UK aren't complete nutjobs, aren't socialists.
We have a very, very unfair voting system in the UK.
And we have an insurgent party called the Reform UK, led by Nigel Farage, who isn't on our wavelength, but he is a populist.
He does speak about a lot of issues that other politicians don't, multiculturalism, demographics, etc.
I would ask you a quick question about this, and pardon the interruption, but his rhetoric is better than anything we've ever gotten out of Trump.
They asked him recently, what are we going to do for blacks?
He says, nothing.
I'm not going to do anything for the blacks.
But at the same time, he's not going to deliver anything for us.
Is that right or is that wrong?
Well, he might say four or five good things, and then he'll say something that completely sort of does a complete U-turn.
But maybe that's strategical.
I'm not sure.
But the point I was going to raise was how unfair our voting system is in the UK.
If you look at the Reform Party, they've got just over 4 million votes in the UK, and that's translated into one seat in five seats in Parliament.
The Liberal Democrats got 600,000 fewer votes, and they have 63 seats in Parliament.
So that's how unfair and corrupt the voting system is in the UK.
Elsewhere in Europe, we see parties like the AFD, we see parties like the Front Nationale in France.
We see them with a lot of representation across the board.
But the reason for that is because they have proportional representation.
Unfortunately, we don't have that in the UK.
So that really is holding us back.
But I'm hoping if Araj can achieve something, that will be pushing through electoral reform and that will open up the door for the likes of me and you.
Do you see any good that has come from the recent EU elections or people trying to vote the right way and they're just not quite as well informed as not necessarily are they well informed but they think they're voting for the right candidates?
Well exactly.
I mean what he goes to show you and I said this earlier is that people's hearts are in the right place.
Now you have people like Maloney who's done a complete U-turn.
Exactly like Griffiths has.
Yeah and she's been absolutely awful and immigration has skyrocketed under her leadership but it does show people's hearts are in the right place.
If you look at the AFD in Germany I was in Germany there a couple of months ago.
They are a party that's just over 10 years old and now they are knocking on the gates of power, and in East Germany states like Saxony they are actually the dominant force.
So there is a lot of hope in happening right now in Europe.
And yes, if I would feel very, very black-billed, if you know it was all doom and gloom, but it isn't.
You know, our people are getting good votes, whether they're, you know, civic nationalists, at least it's showing that people are on the right discourse.
All right, I don't know if anyone tuned into the show live from South Carolina tonight expected to hear this accent, but you just never know where you're going to get at Dixie Fest and what you're going to get on TPC now.
You, you answered the question earlier today, or you, you made the statement why you're here.
What is it about the south and southern culture and this beautiful flag of ours that attracts you?
Yeah, I've always said the South is like my spiritual homeland, and I've always felt a connection to the South, whether it's through the music, definitely the food, and the hospitality is second to none.
I arrived here in 2022 for the first time, and I met Paul, and I met Johnny, and I met Hunter.
I met a few of the boys, and there was about to say 10 or 15 of us.
And I just never felt so welcome so fast.
This place has that effect, does it not?
I mean, even as a lifelong born-and-bred southerner, when I came here for the first time and met this parallel community that they have established, and I don't mean anything extra-governmental, but I'm just talking about people who bond together through blood and through ties that bind and similar thought processes to help one another and grow together.
It was just intoxicating.
I cannot come back here enough.
This has become my favorite place in the entire country.
I always remember a Scottish proverb being told to me: there's no such things as strangers around here, just friends who have never met.
Yes, yes.
I've heard that many times around.
That was the first time that I'd heard that proverb, and that couldn't have been more accurate.
All right, my friend, Nick, a final shot, final parting shot from you to the audience.
Anything you want to say about our ancestral homeland, your current homeland in Europe?
Obviously, the British Isles and Scotland, the Scots-Irish, and the British.
These are our people.
This is, you know, as a matter of fact, Michael Hill's coming up in the third hour to close things out.
And he said when he took his first trip to the UK, it stirred his ancestral memory.
So, you are us, and we are you.
But a final word on any of that or any of this, anything you'd like to say?
Yeah, I think, first of all, a lot of people have got the misconceptions that 80% of the British population is, you know, woke, etc.
We're not.
You know, it's the same over here, I suppose.
Once you leave the cities, you do meet real people, you know, proper people, hardworking people, exactly, you know, like the people I'm surrounded by tonight.
So, we are, we're all family.
We're all extended, an extended family, part of an extended family.
And again, thank you very much, James, for having me on tonight.
I never thought I'd see the day where I'd be on the Cessboard.
We need to get a picture of this.
Somebody take a picture of this, please.
We can text it to one another.
Janice is going to do it.
All right, Janinese.
We got to get this.
This is one for the books.
Nick, a friend of ours, since 2009.
Well, there we go.
All right.
Make me look good, Janice.
Put in that filter.
Not the BBC.
But where would you rather be?
Here.
Nick from the UK.
A big round of applause.
All the way to Dixie from our ancestral homeland.
And thank you, Nick, so much.
And I got to shake your hand again.
2009.
God bless you.
I was young then.
Younger.
Yeah, I don't know if I had it.
By 2009, it was already gone.
All right, Hunter.
Here he comes.
Yeah.
Yeah.
You're the celebrity man here.
Who do you got?
Johnny.
Well, Johnny, we never do a show without Johnny.
Let's pull up Johnny here.
All right, we'll pull up Johnny.
We've got to be sure not to touch this cord because I got to shorten it from all this travel.
I don't know what happened those late nights in Louisiana last week, but we'll mic you up, Hunter, and Johnny and I will share.
These are two of the foundational Jolly Boys here.
We talk about Manst Jolly and the Jolly Boys.
You were both Hunter and Johnny.
You're both charter members of the Jolly Boys.
Yeah, from the start.
Can we bring Nick back on?
Oh, you want to bring that up?
Just so we can listen to his accent.
All right, I love that accent.
I love that accent.
How did we lose that?
We came across here, and now we're y'all, and all that.
How did that happen?
Yeah.
I can listen to him all night.
You like that?
Yeah, I do.
But a lot of people like our accent.
I get it.
If you go north, is it reciprocal?
Nick, do you like us as much as we like you?
I can get a lot more southern.
If you listen to the show like 15 years ago, Rich says it's because I have to talk fast.
Well, they say the southern accent is simply just the British accent slowed down, right?
Yeah.
The Scottish accent slowed down.
So Thomas is familiar with it.
If you're in the Appalachian Mountains or the coastal region, right?
So he could sound like that if he slowed his speech down.
Hang out here a little bit longer.
He'll be right there.
How long does it take?
How long does it take?
Generations.
Many generations.
Because I love the southern accent.
If you go to the rural south, oh, my, it's like butter.
And honey, honey.
You got honey in your voice.
Hey, Hunter, you told me when you saw me today, you didn't think I was going to make it this time.
And you're here.
Eight hours away.
How was there ever any doubt?
Is the only thing I would ask?
Well, you were here in May, and I'm like, man, that's eight hours away.
That's a different time zone.
He's coming from Memphica.
He's coming all the way to the God's country, South Carolina.
That's a long trip.
He's got to cross heavens to get here.
And he's here.
He's got that pass.
I'm here, and I was a long, I tell you this, a week ago tonight, I was a long way from here.
A lot further than Memphis, even.
Hey, as soon as we saw you, though, everybody's face lit up.
That was the best thing I've seen.
A lot of people today.
I didn't know this.
I don't know how they were marketing this, how Paul was marketing this, but a lot of people said they came because they heard we might be here.
More so, we've done this, what, three or four years now?
Yeah, something like that.
Three or four, at least.
And I think we had met more people today who said they came because they thought the show might be tonight than I've ever met at any other single gathering we've done here.
So that was very, very, very, I don't know if gratifying is even the right word, you know, humbling.
Yeah.
How widespread this program is known.
Actually, most of the people that came to see you today, I think, are mostly local.
So a lot of the people here to hear you were local people.
They're very well versed in the history of the program.
I mean, I know some folks.
Well, I would just, would you mind coming up?
And you don't have to say your name or anything, but would you just share with the audience?
This is a gentleman I had the honor of meeting earlier today.
Just a quick word about what you said.
I've been listening to the show since 2015, and this is the first time I've met James Edwards.
So I was proud for him this time on Nathan Bedford Forrest.
And I was proud to see.
Maybe I defaced it, a man so great is he.
But I'll tell you what, thank you so much.
I'd like to shake your hand again, too, coming out to see us tonight.
But we cut our teeth, as anybody who listened to the show all the way back in 2004 and 2005, we cut our teeth fighting for the Confederate parks in Memphis, which included Nathan Bedford, Forrest Park and his grave and that whole chapter, with Al Sharpton and Bill Rowland leading that, guiding me to get the permit to vigil, and that's what gave us our first blast of publicity.
And from there it was onto the hate watch list of the SPLC and the ADL and then to see it in yeah, I mean, the rest is history, all the media but it was on southern issues and that was our, you know, really one of our foundational pillars.
So to be here is always to go back to the very Time I heard of you was in 2015.
From the owner of the store.
2015.
Yeah, yes, sir.
Well, what took you so long?
I had a lot of experiencing to do.
Yeah.
A lot of growing up to do.
And that happened.
And you're a little bit younger than me.
Not much, but just a little.
Yeah, I didn't know this.
I didn't know you were the inspiration for the Brad Pitt movie Fight Club.
There's much better looking and much better fighters out there than me.
That's a little more.
I've heard you compare it to Thomas.
No, actually, I have heard people compare you to Disney Princes.
Oh, really?
Well, you know the story.
You know the story I always like to tell you.
We're not going to do that.
We've beaten that one to death, but just for the mere sound of your voice, these things have happened.
But anyway, we're going to get Johnny on, Johnny Reb, Lead of Leather and Steel.
This is my right-hand man.
We're up here every Saturday hanging out.
We're at Dixie Republic.
And every Saturday, y'all have a get-together, and the show's on.
Yeah, I mean, we listen to your show and we gather and hang out.
There's probably anywhere from six to 12 of us hanging out.
Every Saturday night just hanging out with us.
Listening to your show.
And then we do an event quarterly or even more often than that.
So we did an arm wrestling tournament in April.
That was pretty successful.
We've got, that was open to the public.
It's a way of engaging with the public.
This campus here, you have all of this wonderful apparel, hats, t-shirts, flags.
I mean, you name it.
Anything that you can put the Southern Cross on, it's here.
But it's so much more than that.
You got Johnny's shop where he does leather work and holsters and belts and things like that.
And especially when you have these big events, you've got arm wrestling, wrestling itself, maybe even a little boxing, as we saw today.
And a lot of fun for the family, dunk takes, axe throwing.
It is as wholesome.
And you see, everyone from.
We had a 10-month-old young boy here today, all the way up to octogenarians and everywhere in between families, my child, a fetus in the womb yeah, certainly the youngest person here today, the unborn in the oven or whatever.
So, and your your, your two and a half year old uh, Johnny is kind of our ambassador.
I mean if, if they don't get the message in here, they'll get the message outside when they visit Johnny in the leather shop.
Johnny uh, you know, everybody comes in here.
They peruse around, not everybody's like us, they're just kind of visiting and and seeing what's going on.
And then, and then they get sent out to Johnny's shop and it's no holds bar.
Johnny tells them, like it is a free speech zone, it's a free speech song.
We use it to the max.
There is no 11.
We go.
So what kind of people do you have coming out there?
Everywhere, from boomers to people that are lost, I mean literally.
And then I have to give them directions.
And then uh, and then we got some really good southern historical people.
Right, they come out there and we always have a good history lesson they teach me or I teach them.
And uh, do you have a lot of young people that come out there to see Surprisingly yeah yeah, Johnny's extremely gregarious and and hilarious.
If you were here.
He loves Johnny don't, don't you cuss me I don't know what that word means and so everybody that comes out there gets a dose of that and it's a.
It's a good entryway for a lot of people, have a good time with it and i'm a big fan of Johnny.
Yeah, big fan of Johnny if you've ever met him.
Yeah, larger than life right right yeah, So we have a lot of people that come to the store, and we got many different facets of the store.
We have events going on.
I mean, we try to do a lot of events a year.
The store has merchandise, obviously.
I'll see.
And then Miss Pretty Lynn is at the cash register, and then Johnny's out there at the leather shop.
And we're really just out there in the open and never had any problems.
And I don't expect we will.
I do not expect we will.
It's definitely a strong point.
I mean, that's what we're supposed to be out there in the open, right?
I mean, out there, just a light on the hill.
Right.
Google Maps and bring you right to us.
We don't hide.
Johnny, how's business out there in the leather shop?
Because, I mean, you have a card, and we've been including that in everything we've sent out over the last month.
Text only.
Can people take advantage of your craftsmanship without being here on site?
Definitely.
Definitely.
We'll do that.
Text only, it and like some kind of crazy OnlyFans thing.
That costs extra.
But you can, it just means I'm not going to answer silly phone calls from telemarketers from unknown time zones and area codes.
How could they take advantage of you, of your work?
Text me first, and we'll go from there.
Because we do mail order.
And, you know, your imagination and your wallet are your only limits.
So talking about belts, talking about holsters, talking about what else can you do with leather?
If you can wrap a cowl around it, I'll get my A for effort.
I don't know exactly what that means.
Holsters, scabbards, you name it.
Yeah, scabbards.
Everything.
That's Max throwing.
I've seen them do it.
And great work.
And you're staying busy.
I mean, you've been out here for this many years, so business has to be good and sustainable.
It is.
Business has been very good.
It's our people supporting our people buying local.
Right.
That's what we want.
Parallel community building.
Final word, Johnny.
Ungawa, one-a-wana.
Okay.
We have another pearl of wisdom from our dear good friend Sam.
The royal family.
Nick, this is from Sam.
The royal family's accent, when they are speaking among themselves, is closer to the southern accent than to any other American accent.
All right, Nick says he has heard that before.
Oh, you've never heard that before.
No, no, I'm sorry.
He's never heard that before.
Well, now you know.
We've got to inform even the British here in Dixie.
Hunter, a final word to you.
I just want to say it's awesome being here with you, James.
Thank you for having the show here.
And then for Nick to be here and all these other people that are gathered here, it's truly awesome that I was telling Nick earlier, I mean, it's just, it's really awesome whenever you have people all across the globe, Canada, the UK, Australia.
You know, in May, Brazil, parts of Brazil.
You've got parts of Europe, Italy, all of us, white Western people are going.
Yeah.
We're all going through the same thing.
And when I talk to somebody like Nick, it's reaffirming to me that we're going through the same thing.
We may be across the Atlantic Ocean, but we're going through the same thing.
We are one people.
That is one race.
Worldwide.
One people, many nations, but one race.
And we are all together in this struggle as whites.
I want to shake the hand of Hunter.
I love you, brother.
Thank you for your friendship and for everything we're doing.
Yes, sir.
I'm proud to be a very small part of what's going on.
Are we going to sing Dixie later?
Yeah, the third hour.
I'm hugging Hunter now.
Overcome with emotion here.
Big round of applause, big yell for all of our listeners.
People this house.
Woo-hoo-hoo!
God, that was a good one.
We'll be back with Dr. Michael Hill in the third and final hour.