June 22, 2024 - The Political Cesspool - James Edwards
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You're listening to the Liberty News Radio Network, and this is the Political Cesspool.
The Political Cesspool, known across the South and worldwide as the South's foremost populist conservative radio program.
And here to guide you through the murky waters of the Political Testpool is your host, James Edwards.
What a fun night tonight to be together and with such great guests.
Earlier this evening, kicking off the party was former member of European Parliament Nick Griffin with a fantastic and insightful analysis of this month's election results in the EU.
You just heard in the previous hour, our second hour, from Jared Taylor of American Renaissance talking about the future of America, some of his videos that have sparked so much intellectual debate in our circles in the recent weeks.
And every time Jared's on, which is often, it's always a fun time.
And closing out tonight's birthday bash is David Zetty, the executive director of the Homeland Institute.
He's going to be providing us with the findings from his organization's recent poll on immigration and repatriation.
David, great to have you back as well, and thank you for being here again.
Hi, James.
It's great feedback.
It's always fun.
It was a very interesting poll this time on a hot topic with the election coming up.
I want to talk about all of that, and I want to take our time in doing so.
Now, you've been on with us a handful of times.
So certainly enough times now, and that number will continue to grow because I'm a big fan and advocate of what the Homeland Institute is doing.
Very unique work.
But before we get into the recent results and findings, just a quick, I mean, we've spent an entire show with you talking about this question I'm about to ask, but maybe a 60-second recap of the Homeland Institute, its purpose, its mission, with especially an emphasis on your work with polling there.
Yes, indeed.
So we are a nonprofit, and our goal is to explore the negative effects of globalism and multiculturalism.
But most importantly, we want to propose workable and humane solutions.
So we're more focused on not just documenting the decline, but on looking on ways to actually deal with it that people could get on board with.
And my vision for the Homeland Institute is, yes, we are an alternate institution, but we are doing mainstream things.
We are actually doing polls, and actually, we might be doing them better than the mainstream because we will ask the questions that they won't.
And we'll go into greater detail than they will.
And unlike some people, like the ADL, we'll actually share all of our findings with the public.
So that's our goal.
We're going to push back against globalism.
It's a scourge.
We're going to find great solutions, and we're going to ask and explore the questions that nobody wants.
So it's a very unique thing.
It's kind of a first of its kind here.
I know there's been other policy institutes, but this is the one that has really gone into polling and really pulling the public.
And I feel like unlike the mainstream pollsters, we aren't just looking to manipulate public opinion.
We're looking to actually explore it, survey it, and see what's out there to better understand the public.
See, that's the key.
I mean, yes, it's interesting to know what polls are and where public approval is on certain issues, whatever they may be.
But the application of those findings, that's the purpose of the Homeland Institute.
Yes, number one, it's an organization on our side that is doing scientific polling.
That is important information to know.
But it's what you do with that information, how you tailor our approaches on certain issues to the public in a way that will actually lead to results for our side.
You would say that's pretty much what we're driving at there, right?
That's absolutely correct.
I'm hoping that we can eventually influence policy.
I'd like to see these polls land upon the desks of congressmen, other people.
Ideally, my big issue, especially with this latest poll, is to pressure Donald Trump to stay loyal to an America first platform.
There are dark rumors that he is going to go soft on immigration despite his rhetoric about mass deportations.
And I think we need to do everything we can to keep him on track and focused on America first and not Israel first or donor first.
All right.
With that being said, and that again, you just put a fine point to it, David.
You get these polls, you get these results very well thought out in terms of, well, again, scientific research polling, but then you write the findings and how they can and should be applied, and you get them packaged in a way that could potentially influence policy.
So we're talking about the Homeland Institute's recent poll on immigration and repatriation.
And if you would allow me, David, I would just read the preface that you put to this above your findings there at homelandinstitute.org.
And you write that it was just a few months ago when Donald Trump stated of illegal immigrants that, quote, they're poisoning the blood of our country.
They're coming into our country from Africa, from Asia, all over the world, end quote.
Trump has also recently promised mass deportations if he is re-elected.
And in May of 2024, a Reuters poll found that 56% of U.S. voters were in favor of deporting all illegal immigrants, while 36% supported holding illegal immigrants in deportation camps pending deportation.
David, you continue at the top of this article.
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These developments inspired you and the Homeland Institute to explore the topics of immigration and repatriation in greater depth than the Reuters poll did.
The Homeland Institute, you polled for this survey, 1,136 respondents who are characteristic of registered white American voters.
And this poll has a margin of error of plus or minus 3%, and it was conducted earlier this month, the very end of May through June the 11th.
With that being said, that sets the stage for you, my friend, to take it away from there.
Sure.
And just before I go any further, I want to emphasize that our poll, the Holman poll, was of white registered voters.
The Reuters was of all registered voters of all races.
And one of the interesting findings is that it seems that Hispanic voters or non-white voters in general are a lot more hard on illegal immigration than white registered voters.
So I'll be discussing that later on.
So it's very interesting.
But yes, and also I've been kind of trained by an industry insider about how to do this.
So I control for a variety of different demographic factors such as age, education.
Most importantly, BLM support, because while this is not about BLM, a lot of the Holman polls are, they touch upon racial themes.
And BLM support is a good way to make sure that we have a bunch of people who are reflective of racial attitudes in the white electorate.
Because I am using an online polling service.
I'm not going to say which one, but there is a problem with the laptop class using it more, but we've developed a way to control for that.
And this is what industry insiders do too.
So this is definitely a very professional scientific poll with hard facts.
But yes, so I first just began by kind of laying a foundation or a general groundwork for attitudes on immigration.
And some of it was good.
For example, a lot of respondents did agree with Trump's statement, not the majority, but still that's perfectly fine.
It was a little, it was definitely spicy, so maybe some voters aren't fully on board with that, but no, they've handled mean tweets in the past.
They can handle this.
And I think the most interesting finding, first of all, was that people have a generally positive view of immigration.
And I wrote a countercurrence article on this called, So Long as They Replace Us Legally, that kind of gives more of my analysis on this.
There's probably a variety of reasons they identify the immigrants, even though the immigrants of today are nothing like the immigrants of tomorrow.
I think we should even use separate words because when our ancestors came here, they were more like conquerors, pioneers, settlers.
Even ones who came late in the Ellis Island waves, there is no very little to no social safety net.
About a third of some segments of immigrants actually returned home and voluntarily repatriated themselves because it was too tough to make it here.
That included places like Ireland where they had a famine.
So you had to work.
You couldn't exactly go on welfare or get affirmative action.
You had to assimilate and work and be white and not complain.
So I really do think we need a different word.
We're trying to conflate.
The establishment is trying to conflate these two categories and they're nothing similar beyond that they moved and the similarities end up moving.
But what's interesting is that this general warmth towards immigrants, it dropped in regards to helping the economy.
And I'm going to bring up economics again in the future.
But the first major question we had that had big results was we asked them to their opinion on the statement.
Undocumented immigrants are a net negative, but legal immigrants are a net positive.
And yes, I use the kind of weak term undocumented immigrants to reflect liberal language because I am pulling all the white electorate, including liberals, so I'm trying to be as even-handed as possible.
And they don't know who's pulling them.
So I try to present as a neutral or perhaps even liberal pollster so that they're more willing to open up and be honest with me.
So there's that.
I try to strive for absolute neutrality, even though personally I'm highly ideological.
But here, this wasn't that great.
50%, 51% overall agreed with the statement.
And only 7.2% of respondents disagreed on the grounds that it was a net negative.
20% disagreed on the ground that undocumented immigrants are in fact a net positive.
Now, this looks horrible.
It is troubling.
It's not the end of the world.
And I'm going to explain why.
We later asked further down whether or not the fact, assume that we asked them to assume the fact that immigration is changing the demographics of America, which we know it is.
And at that point, 10% of all respondents said that made them slightly more likely to oppose it, and 20% a lot more likely.
And that's a lot bigger.
And so, yes.
David, if you don't mind, I'm putting a pin in it right there.
I have a wonk that gets fascinated by things like this.
I'm sitting back in my chair here in the studio with my finger to my chin and just listening to this.
And we're going to let you continue to share these findings and the takeaways from them when we come back.
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We're back, ladies and gentlemen, now with David Zutty of the Homeland Institute.
David is an attorney in California, his BA in political science from the University of California, San Diego, and a JD from Chapman University's Dale E. Fowler School of Law.
Before studying law, David served six years in the U.S. Air Force as an airborne linguist and achieved the rank of staff sergeant.
His movement bona fides go back a long time as well.
He was an activist and a chapter leader in Identity Europa in years past now, leading the Homeland Institute.
And David, I want you to continue with your findings, but if I could just interject very quickly here, you were mentioning in the previous segment that this poll of a little over 1,100 respondents included, it was a whites-only poll, but you were only polling whites, but you were polling Republicans, Democrats, and Independents all across the political ideological spectrum.
Just focusing, though, on four key takeaways for this particular audience and just focusing on the Republican people who self-identify as Republicans.
This is what you found.
I think this is very, very interesting because, again, you say you want to package these findings and put them together in a way that could perhaps influence policy.
You do it not just with the numbers, but with the explanations of what these findings are, and you include that at your website.
But 55.1% of all respondents, but 85.6% of Republicans, support deporting all or almost all illegal aliens.
48.7% of Republicans would oppose immigration if it is changing the racial demographics of the U.S.
So those would seem to be conflicting numbers.
85% support deporting illegal aliens, but only 48% support it if the racial aspect comes into it.
And what that tells me, my takeaway from that is, and I could be wrong, is that it really is a racial thing.
A lot of people just don't want to admit it.
Would that be a finding?
And I didn't want to interrupt what you were at before the break, but that was something that really jumped out to me on this.
Oh, no, absolutely.
And that's why, as part of my methodology, I control very tightly for BLM support because this is a racial issue.
And I was discussing this with other experts, and we agree that this all comes down to the difficulty about getting over the charge of racism and also an obsession with legalism.
I kind of wrote a little bit more analysis in a separate countercurrence article because I didn't want to overburden the Holman Institute article.
But yes, they're worried about being called racist, including by themselves.
And this really gets home how we have to deconstruct the anti-white narrative of white guilt, all this stuff that's horrible to advocate upon our own principles.
And so it's very strange.
Republicans will be very, very hard on illegal immigration.
Whenever money is involved, they will, such as cutting off, say, extra state benefits to them as Proposition 187 attempted to in California.
They're all for that.
But the moment it gets racial, they kind of cool off.
And I discovered also that they were more concerned about the changing electorate than changing demographics.
So really, we're putting the car in the horse, so we're all mixed up here.
Wouldn't you have to imagine, though, that Republicans, I understand what they're saying and what they're saying to you as an anonymous pollster who's calling them, but don't you think that they have to see that there are flat zero white illegal aliens?
I mean, whites aren't the ones coming over here illegally.
I'm sure that they know that.
It's very strange.
This is why I'm trying to explore the public mind more.
I think eventually in a follow-up poll, we might go more into this, but it does seem that the mind of the normie, I hate using that term because we're the normal ones here.
We're trying to go mainstream.
But the general public, they aren't particularly high IQ.
They oftentimes don't think very deeply.
And so we need to really jog their conscience and get them thinking and really break down these narratives and really help them get over white guilt and really explain to them that there will be consequences.
And the racial thing, I'm going to say a conservative wants to conserve their money and nationalists wants to conserve their nation.
We have to meet these people halfway, even though it pains us.
They should be concerned about matters of honor, race, heritage, culture.
They just aren't.
And we should absolutely work on changing that long term.
But in the short term, we have to explain to them in the language they speak, which is money, that a bunch of non-white immigrants will be a net financial negative.
Right now, it takes on average about five white taxpayers to support one black citizen.
And the numbers for Hispanics aren't that great.
So these people, they're supposed to be this great economic boon.
Well, they're not.
And this is how the Republican Party always makes them go along with illegal immigration.
They know that they respond overly too much to money.
And they start talking about the GDP.
But this is all a lie.
Because the only people who benefit financially from mass immigration are big businesses who get cheap later, cheap labor.
And that's a huge problem because we have to pay, they oftentimes excess legal benefits.
For example, in California, it's not that much of a big deal because illegal immigrants now get Medi-Cal.
That's their cheapo state insurance.
But elsewhere, if you're illegal, you get to get state insurance if you're poor.
You get all these social programs.
And that's a huge drain.
And that's a problem, along with voting, of course.
And then there's the whole problem that legal or illegal, they tend to be Hispanic.
And also not just Hispanic.
A lot of Hispanic countries are very nice, but these are like the bottom 10, 20% that we're getting.
As Trump says, they're not sending their best.
These are not the high caste castizos or, you know, they're all law non-whites who are great, but they're the ones to stay in their home countries.
They aren't coming to, they aren't leaving all that behind.
Their traditional society, their native land that they've been part of for centuries to go make a buck in El Norte.
We're getting the ones who are not the best.
And they commit crime.
And the problem, the crime, along with the initial effects, such as stolen, you know, car breaking, theft, it's illegal proceedings.
You have to pay for a public defender most of the time because they're poor.
You have to pay for the correctional institute.
And these, and if you, I know how law works.
Some of these cases, they have a rap sheet.
I feel like they're killing a whole tree every single time they get a new charge because they have to print out the whole rap sheet.
And we have to pay for this.
Crime doesn't just cost the initial money.
It's a huge problem.
And they're very low IQ, so they aren't going to be these doctors and engineers.
And so this is a huge problem.
And we shouldn't have to appeal to base greed to get Republicans on board of fighting against all immigration.
That might be what we need to do in the short term.
All right.
So listen, this is, again, going back to your findings, I'm just focusing on the Republican side of it right now.
To go a little bit further, 67.7% of Republicans support prohibiting illegal immigrants from using non-emergency services, such as California's Prop 187.
About 28% of all respondents, of all respondents, that includes the Democrats, okay, and the independents, support a national divorce for states who disagree with the federal government on immigration.
I think, David, that is huge because you look at 28%, 28%, 28% is still pretty substantially.
I mean, you round it up and call it a third, but you put in the caveats, regardless of who is president, and you included the left, and you still got 28% saying they would support a national divorce.
So, yes, I think, anyway, think about immigration.
85.6 of Republicans support deporting all or almost all illegal aliens.
85.6%, that is a winning issue.
I would doubt that there is any other issue that you could poll someone on that would get that large of a consensus.
That is the issue for the Republican Party right now, if they want to win.
Absolutely.
They want mass deportations.
They didn't get a wall last time.
This is what they want.
And we have support even from Democrats, Independents, Hispanics.
So there's no excuse for Trump not to do mass deportations.
Yeah, let me just reiterate and emphasize what you're saying here.
This isn't just 85.6% of Republicans that they want to stop illegal immigration or build a wall.
This is about deportations.
Right.
This is about finally reversing it and actually kicking them out.
And, too, there's a whole problem with legal immigrants here, but they're oftentimes we're enmeshed.
So if they get kicked out, the legal immigrants might follow suit or they'll fill their necks.
So this creates a hostile environment and they'll be pushed out.
And also, I was kind of in my other article I wrote on countercurrents, I talked about how we can use a slippery slope to our favor.
We get the illegal immigrants out.
Well, that gives us some demographic and electoral breathing room.
But we just normalize something.
If you notice the left, they're very worried about any type of even implicitly pro-white policy, which is why they went after Trump so hard.
Because they know that the slippery slope can work both ways.
If you look at degeneracy, it began with gay marriage.
We'll look at this.
We have Dragon Story Hour.
We start by kicking out the ones who are illegal.
This will normalize it.
It will help subconsciously break down this anti-racism barrier because there'll be Hispanics rooting for it.
This will give white people permission.
It will make them more comfortable with maybe taking an inch further and talking about restricting legal immigration.
And once they get comfortable with that, why not go on to repatriating legal immigrants?
Now, this is a long-term fight.
This is a very difficult fight, but I think like the Bene Gesserit from Dune in terms of decades or centuries, not election cycles, but this can be done.
It's a fight that could be winnable.
You've got zero chance at winning if there's no support amongst whites for it.
You've at least crossed that hurdle big time.
Right.
We slam dunk deporting the illegal immigrants, and then we go from there, like the left always does.
They always escalate.
They always have a new demand.
They're never happy.
So why should we ever be happy?
Let's absolutely knock this out of the ballpark, make Trump do this for real, and then we'll have some other new demand.
This is how you get power.
The squeaky wheel gets greased.
And also, I want to point out something else is that some of the numbers do seem, as they say online, blackpilling or depressing, or it's horrible.
There's this theory called the diffusion of innovations, where a small idea, once it hits about, there's different segments of the population with a new idea or new technology, such as the innovators, early adopters, the early majority, late majority, and then the laggards.
And about the innovators are about 2% to 3%, according to this theory, but the early innovators are about 10%.
And so we look at these numbers, like 7% to 8% understand that illegal immigration, that illegal immigrants are bad.
Well, that's the early adopters.
We have broken out of the innovators, out of the essentially right-wing ghetto.
We've gotten it out of that 2%.
And when an idea has 10% support and it's backed by a very emotional minority, it goes mainstream.
All right.
That is exactly where I want to pick up with you, David Zuddy.
That is something that people really need to hear you say again, and we'll let you say it again, or be honored to have you say it again right after this break.
Stay tuned, everybody.
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This is a wonderful, wonderful way to spend a birthday, ladies and gentlemen.
This Saturday evening, June 22nd, with friends like Nick Griffin and Jared Taylor and David Zutty tonight.
That's a trifecta, to be sure.
And we were talking with Jared about some of these very issues, I think, about how change begins to occur and how it can occur.
And I really liked what you were talking about, David, before the break, and that is that you don't have to have 100% consensus on an issue, even though with regards to white Republicans, it's nearly that on the issue of immigration, even when it comes to its last full measure, deportation and repatriation.
But drive home the point you were making before the last break about the different tiers of evolution with regards to popular support of an idea and when at a relatively low percentage of consensus, you can really start to experience great change.
Right.
So we have basically already won the war for public opinion on deporting illegal immigrants.
But as we know, legal immigrants do a lot more damage.
And there's this theory called the diffusion of innovations, which explores how ideas and technology spreads around and becomes popularized, whether that's smartphones, ideas.
The American Revolution started out with a few gentlemen of honor plotting and scheming who had a lot of emotion, a lot of dedication, and they had a lot of passion.
Made it work because they believed their ideas, they fought hard and they were persuasive.
This happened with Christ and 12 apostles.
There's been a lot of other examples throughout history where, for example, Christopher Columbus, let's go to the New World.
Everyone said no.
He said yes, it happened.
Every great idea or innovation begins usually with a very small group of people and then it's adopted by more, broader and broader groups of people.
And this theory, it starts out with the innovators that's about two percent, the.
Then you have the early adopters they're about ten percent give or take, or twelve percent.
Then you have the early majority, the late majority and finally the stragglers, the laggards, who refuse to get smartphones in 2024.
But this is how it works you.
You start small, but if you are passionate and consistent and believe in yourself, it will happen.
You'll make it.
You just have to to stay at it.
And the golden number when a, when a passionate minority, becomes inevitable, is about 10.
According to this theory, this is generally, this is this isn't always true, this is a social science, but that that tends to be the magic number.
And we're almost there with a about eight and a half percent who understand that legal immigration is bad, just like illegal immigration, perhaps even worse, and that's big, because it means that we're breaking into the mainstream, and I really want to emphasize how much this is a new idea, because really, the prevailing thing, the prevailing Geist in America has been, we're a nation of immigrants.
This was a lie concocted by Israel Zanguan his in his silly play, the Melting Pot.
This was pushed by subversive academics in the 1960s.
It sounds great but, like I said earlier, immigrant and immigrant they're not always the same, depending on the century and the race, and so we're pushing back against really decades of brainwashing, for example, the media.
The Republican Party has always had this line of, illegal immigrants are bad and legal ones are good though, and the legal ones they're actually hurting the legal ones.
They have to wait in line and they have to come here and replace us and change our culture legally, as Trump would say.
I'm not going to do the Trump voice too much, but legally, and you know, fill out the papers correctly before they come and change the country and make San Diego into Tijuana.
Let's make sure the paper is in the proper order here.
That's what really matters, not our race, our culture or heritage, and so we're fighting against this controlled opposition paradigm, this leftist paradigm that has been really blasted out of every single tv in America, reiterated by every mainstream Republican candidate, and so this is a huge fight, but we are making ground.
I'm not sure what this is, what this was say in the past, saying 2016 or 2010?
I don't have data, which is why the HOME Institute is so important because of these polls.
Along with creating new data, we're establishing a baseline for these things that weren't closely studied because they were probably considered problematic.
If they were studied, they're probably kept under lock and key, like the ADL did with some of the studies they alluded to in their leaked audio about Zionism.
So this is true, like we, when we see eight percent, we shouldn't say oh, my goodness, we're in the minority.
We should say we're in the early adopter Doctor crowd.
We're breaking through.
We're going mainstream.
We are inevitable.
I love that.
And I agree with that, obviously.
And there will be something to be said when the final victory is obtained for those of us who are amongst those early numbers and people who have been doing this since before we came around.
And it was an unfortunate existence during those days.
But you do begin to see that a corner is approaching.
Can we turn it?
Can we see the light?
I think we're closer than a lot of people think.
I think we're closer than it would certainly appear right now.
But this is certainly, and this is what I was talking about with Jared before, David.
And I would ask you if your polling would lead you to believe that this could be the case.
It's just a matter of a man stepping into the moment and harnessing this energy.
If you had a guy, if Trump was the guy that the media falsely portrays him to be, but if he was speaking like David Zunny or Jared Taylor or Greg Johnson or any of our regular guests, if he was speaking like that right now, I think he could tap into that volcanic level of energy and unleash it.
And I do not think it would be a detriment.
I do not think it would be a detriment to the 86% to 85.6% of Republican voters who say they're ready for deportations, according to your polls, which certainly corroborate mainstream polls with regards to mass deportations of illegals.
So, yeah, I just think we haven't had that guy yet.
A lot of people think that Trump might have been him, but just because he's even close to that or in the same universe as that, he's been able to become the president.
Well, the regime certainly thinks so by their conduct.
They were terrified of Trump because even though he was milquetoast and ended up milquetoast, the mere fact that he was implicitly pro-white was too much.
They were too scared that the ball could get rolling in the other direction.
So they had to stop.
And that's right.
They could have simply let Trump do a second term normally and simply manipulated him through Jared Kushner and Ivanka and Bolton and all these other people.
Maybe he has an APAC baby hand, AIPAC babysitter like Congress does, apparently.
But this could have all been handled in a lot more easier fashion.
But a simple whiff of white identity politics, even implicitly, even with pandering to blacks, is just too much.
It's too scary for them.
So they had to shut it down and they really shot themselves in the foot.
And they know how easy it is to do this because they did it themselves.
They did a top-down revolution here in the country.
And it began with infiltration in the 30s, as laid out by Francis Parker Yaqui.
But really, the 60s, they took it off.
They had their moment of invincibility where they fought through it all.
They faced a lot of challenges.
Now, they were a lot more competent back then.
They had the likes of Stolminsky, Noam Chomsky, who I'm not sure if he's still alive or not.
I've heard rumors he died, but then that he's actually alive.
But these were, I hesitate to call them intellectuals, but they were at least something.
They're at least more than what they currently have, where their current intellectuals are like Sarah Rao.
This is it.
This is their heavy hitters.
My goodness.
But two, really, anyone, as Greg Johnson says, there's a lot of gutters, a lot of crowns lying in gutters that Destiny picked up.
And maybe that could be Baron Trump.
It could be anyone who simply had the initiative.
And this will create a lot of knockoff effects because you might say there's a little support for this.
People need to be given permission to be pro-white.
Once they are, they'll love it.
If you had a lot of Republicans, I recoiled from saying, from building the wall because I've been mean or extreme or expensive, but Trump said it.
They got permission from a billionaire.
And they said, well, I actually do like that.
So all this comes down from these rogue elites who give people ideas.
And look at Candace Owens.
She was emboldened probably by people like us talking on social media by the Trump campaign to talk about certain taboo subjects like the Jews, World War II.
At this point, I almost wonder if she's reading these antelope pill books that we heard about at the advertisement break.
If not, she probably will be pretty soon.
Well, the same thing will happen talking about race and immigration.
All we need is someone, a rogue elite like Candace Owens, to say white people need to start deporting non-whites.
And they'll be given permission by rogue elite.
And this will be unstable at that point.
You're absolutely, David, starting to see that synergy and that beginning to take place, certainly with conservative incorporated, even conservative incorporated types with regards to some racial realities.
But what you said is so on point, and it's something that isn't a novel idea.
I think anybody who studies history knows this, that revolutions are top-down.
You have to have the people, certainly, on the grassroots level in order to get the job done, but it's not going to start and end there.
It always starts with a, as you call them, a rogue elite or a faction of the elite breaking apart and doing something differently.
And then the people join in line.
But you are going to have to have that.
I mean, we alone are not going to be able to do it.
It's going to take a guy like Trump.
Now, wouldn't that be something if hypothetically, if Baron Trump would be that guy?
It's sort of like the inverse of what we see with the Le Pens, where the daughter is not as good as the father.
Maybe in this case, the son would be better than the father.
But it will be something like that.
But when they step into that moment, you could really get something done because I think ideologically speaking, we are there.
Trump made opposition to illegal immigration, immigration, building a wall, deportations, the Republican issue.
He gave them safe cover to become who they are.
We'll be right back.
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All right, so another fantastic appearance by David Zutty of the Homeland Institute.
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They are only a year old and already doing things that nobody else on our side has been doing.
Very important.
And yes, we were talking about just a moment ago the fact that Trump gave everyone safe cover to have these opinions on immigration.
And now just imagine if somebody would give them safe cover to become pro-white.
I think, David, that they would latch on to that.
At least the vast majority of Republicans would fall in line very quickly with that.
And that's what it takes to get the ball rolling is a rogue elite, as you mentioned.
Now, I just, one thing about polls, I like polls and I like reading them.
And I'm glad that we've got an organization on our side doing these polls.
But what do you make of, speaking of Trump and all of this, the presidential polls right now, I like Real Clear Politics because it averages all the polls out.
So you can have a Raspbuson poll, you know, headline Raspbuson poll reports this or CNN poll reports this or Reuters.
But Real Clear Politics takes them all and gives you the average of all of them.
And it's saying nationwide right now, Trump's got a 0.5 point lead over Biden, but that doesn't mean anything.
That means nothing because you have, that's nationwide popular opinion, or you've got states like California that's going to drag him down.
He's going to lose that by millions of votes.
But then you've got all the old Confederate states that are going to vote for him.
They're smaller.
And so that gets you to the battleground states.
Like all presidential elections, this one's going to be settled, or at least all presidential elections in recent history.
This is going to be settled by the seven battleground states, many of which Trump lost in 2020.
But I'm looking at them right now, David, and even after his 34 guilty verdicts in New York, he's running away with this thing.
Trump leads in every single battleground state.
Arizona, Nevada, Wisconsin, Michigan, Pennsylvania, North Carolina, and Georgia.
Obviously, he lost Arizona and Georgia to big states in 2020.
He's leading in Arizona by 4.6 points, leading in Georgia by 5 points.
That is actually up, up from what it was a week ago when he was leading in Arizona by 4 point by Georgia by 4.8.
Now it's 5.0.
He's gone actually up in these states.
So a lot could change between now and Election Day.
Biden could be replaced or die.
Trump almost likely might be put in prison or assassinated.
We don't know.
There's going to be a lot of surprises.
But what do you make of the presidential polls from your position as a pollster yourself?
First of all, in regards to Trump going to jail, on the countercurrents podcast, we had Jason Lee Van Dyke.
He's a very good attorney.
His opinion was that it's likely that Trump will get probation and they'll simply use that as leverage and threaten him to throw him in jail.
And say if you value your probation terms, you go to jail just as ways to humiliate him.
I was leaning more towards it.
They actually would, because the left has no brakes.
They don't understand how to not double down, how to really think more than two steps ahead.
These are not people who are masterminds.
They are not the INTJ, the architect on the Meyer-Briggs spectrum as 44% of Countercurrents readers were on our poll.
These are very silly, emotional people, and they're amateurs, frankly.
But I think someone will give the judge a call from high on up and tell them, no, I don't care if you're a judge.
You're not going to take the election to pad your resume.
So don't throw Trump in jail, give him probation.
So we'll see what happens.
Do you think Trump wins the election if he goes to prison?
That punches his ticket, right?
I think it's all pretty much already guaranteed that Trump will win.
This will simply give him an even bigger landslide because it looks bad.
This is a third-world banana republic behavior.
Even independents see this.
And I think a lot of Democrats are worried about blowback.
Well, Republicans finally stop complaining about if the roles reverse and maybe reverse the rolls.
So I think this would actually backfire.
And, you know, the left always complains about voting for a convicted felon.
I always reply, don't you people worship a convicted felon with St. Finchinal Floyd?
So, yes, I will vote for one because you worship one.
Yes.
That's great.
Yes.
So anyway, go ahead.
And going back to the Battleground states, this is why I want a national divorce.
We have been disenfranchised by the two-party system Electoral College because it always comes down to a few battleground states.
So really, these other states only matter for Congress at this point.
And I don't think that's what the founders intended.
They did intend the rural states to have more power, but these random battleground states, no, so I think that's another reason why we need a national divorce that all votes matter again.
And two, we can get off the winner-take-all system and do what Europe does with parliamentary elections.
Which I'm not sure if you follow them, but the parliamentary elections were great over in Europe for the right.
Oh, yeah, we covered it earlier tonight with Nick Griffin.
He was on for a full hour breaking it all down.
Yeah.
Yeah, it's awesome.
And that way we can actually have parties that mean something because there's like five, I looked online, there's like five different types of MAGA voters that are all cobbled together.
And with a parliamentary system, you would have all these different parties and shades of this.
And it would just make better sense and be easier to build a coalition.
It'd be more natural.
Votes would count again.
But I'm kind of digressing there.
It's just my civilization-building dream of a national divorce.
But it's true, I think Trump will win.
And there's not enough voter fraud they can do.
And organized people's lives have been hurt by inflation and crime.
I think they're just insulted by how they're trying to gaslight people about that, how crime's not happening because they're not reporting it.
That's ridiculous.
No, you're right.
I mean, you've got a terrible economy, which is normally the issue that determines whether or not an incumbent is going to maintain his seat or not.
I mean, it's a terrible, terrible economy with this inflation and the cost of living.
And then, but, I mean, beyond that, which would be bad for an incumbent president no matter who they are, but they really did, as you mentioned, they brought Trump back from political death.
They actually resurrected him through this martyrdom to their detriment because they have no breaks.
And as you said, they're amateurs.
And when push really comes to shove, they can be taken down and they're going to make mistakes that are going to be their undoing.
And so I just, we're about to run out of time.
I want to encourage everyone again to check out the Homeland Institute at homelandinstitute.org.
And you can check in with David Zuddy there.
And David, I want to thank you again for being on with us tonight, as always.
And we look forward to your next appearance already.
There'll be much more polling to be done between now and Election Day.
There will be.
It's my pleasure.
I always have fun here.
I can't wait to come back.
All right.
We'll get this to you as soon as the archive posts, a little later tonight.
Say hello to Greg for me and all the great work being done there at Homeland Institute and Countercurrents, which are sort of partnership-type organizations.
There's a common denominator and link there.
So thank you again, David, and we'll talk to you again soon.
And before we go, just make sure to follow me on Twitter.
It's at DavidZuddy, Z-S-U-T-T-Y.
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You heard it there, ladies and gentlemen, and it comes with my most heartfelt endorsement.
Thank you again, David, and talk to you again very soon.
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