May 4, 2024 - The Political Cesspool - James Edwards
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The Political Cesspool, known across the South and worldwide as the South's foremost populist conservative radio program.
And here to guide you through the murky waters of the Political Cesspool is your host, James Edwards.
Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to another live broadcast of TPC.
I'm your host, James Edwards, along with Keith Alexander.
It is Saturday evening, May the 4th.
How quickly did the first four months of this year just fly by for us here?
I can tell you, after presenting back-to-back special series in March and April, respectively, March Around the World, a Confederate History Month.
It's back to business as usual tonight on TPC.
It was very busy and exceedingly rewarding, Keith, the last two months of programming.
And now we'll be able to slip back into our standard fare, although there's nothing standard about our average broadcast.
They're all exceptional.
And tonight will be no different because we've got a great lineup of guests beginning right now with David Zuddy.
He is back with us for the second time this year, the executive director of the Homeland Institute.
And we're going to take a look at that fantastic organization's most recent poll.
David, how are you tonight?
I'm doing great.
How are you?
I am doing fine, my friend.
I am happy to have you back on the program tonight to talk about the very unique and valuable work of the Homeland Institute.
Now, this is an organization that just got put together last year.
The purpose of the Homeland Institute is to explore the negative effects of globalization and multiculturalism on historic homelands and to propose workable and humane alternatives.
Now, it's primarily an educational organization, but the Homeland Institute is taking these findings, this scientific polling data that they are compiling, and using it to propose alternative policies and legislation helping our cause better sharpen and present its message.
Am I right about that, David?
You're absolutely correct.
And the vision that I have for the Homeland Institute is that we are an alternate institution, but we are doing mainstream things, that we can make them to the mainstream, get respect, and hopefully our findings will make their ways to the desks of several policymakers and make a difference.
I want to talk a little bit more about that later this hour as we have this hour with you.
And after we sort through the findings of this most recent poll, how you intend to apply those findings.
But we'll first let Keith Alexander say low as we're getting all settled in and saddled up tonight.
Well, David, I'm really looking forward to this show because natalism, which I think is, generally speaking, the subject that we're going to discuss, is the key to everything.
We can get everything else that we want, but if we don't increase white birth rates, stick and fork in us, we're done.
And before David responds to that, I would just say there's so many things going on in the world, and we've been, of course, I don't want to say locked in to certain topics over the last two months, but as we have been conducting special series, we certainly focus heavily on what's going on internationally with our international guest in March and, you know, taking to account our southern heritage and patrimony in April.
But and with everything going on, the secession of Baton Rouge, the campus riots, the anti-Semitism, so-called anti-Semitism Awareness Act, Trump talking about the anti-white animus here in this country, Marjorie Taylor Greene, Mike Johnson.
We're going to get to all of it tonight.
But really, David, you can talk about all of these issues.
You can even come up with workable solutions.
But if you don't have that foundational building block of civilization, if you don't have families, if you don't have a population to carry it on, what's it matter?
So I think, well, everything we've been talking about, the Chiwajist listing under James is anti-white in its basic animus.
Well, that's fine, but at the same time, again, you can talk about all of these issues, but if you're not going back to the cornerstone, if you don't have a people, none of it matters.
So let's just start there, David.
Take it away and take your time.
Right, so history is a lot like a job.
A lot of a job is just showing up.
Well, the same is for history.
You need to actually show up, which means you need to actually have people.
And so, this whole poll was sparked originally by an article written by the BBC.
Yes, they're leftists, but they had a very interesting article about South Korea, of all places.
Their birth rate is an atrocious 0.7.
And what happened is that this sparked a huge discussion on the broader online right about why that is, what that means for us, because this is kind of a comparison.
South Korea is modern, but they're not white.
They're not West.
Well, they've been westernized.
They don't really seem to have a hostile elite like we do, as we have in America.
But their birth rates are worse than ours.
So that's disturbing.
So I decided to, this is what the Holman Institute does.
What we're going to do going forward is that we're going to try to match up our polls to current events so that they're more topical.
We do have some perennial things we want to, of course, explore, but especially with this election season, if we have the money, we want to pull on current events.
For example, our next poll is most likely, this is not a promise, but it's very likely it'll be on specific policies to reduce immigration and maybe do some repatriation.
Now, of course, we need money for that.
So if you'd like to go to our website and learn about how you can donate, that's great.
It is theholmaninstitute.org.
My personal Twitter account is DavidZuddy.
It's Z-S-U-T-T-Y.
It's a very unusual name, so it's easy to find me on Twitter if you get the spelling right.
But aside from that, we're really matching this up to real-life events.
And South Korea was disturbing.
It was fascinating.
And before I go any further, I want to emphasize that this is not a case of friendly Southern California veteran attorney finds a way to save the West with this one easy solution.
That's not what I found.
But I think natalist policies are a way to mitigate, albeit not fix, low birth rates.
It's important that we mitigate them at least.
Because here's the big question.
Yes, what you need for a population to remain stable is 2.1 births per woman.
Any less than that is going to shrink a little bit.
Now, is it shrinking a lot, a little?
That depends.
But keep in mind, Einstein, he was right about one thing.
Compound interest is the strongest force in the universe.
That includes populations too, not just interest on money.
And so these numbers compound over time.
Like a 0.7 birth rate over two generations will completely destroy the population.
It's like a bioweapon.
It's truly disturbing.
And so we need to mitigate this because what happens is that with highly low birth rates, you get stuck into a vacuum, what I call the demographic catastrophe, where you have basically a dictatorship of the elderly, nothing against old people.
But if all the society is retiree, they're going to be focused on retirement, not on the future, especially if they don't have kids that connect them to the future.
For example, AARP is one of the strongest lobbies in America, right up there with APAC of all people.
Now, yes, we want to take care of our elders, but we need to also plan for the future.
You also have low birth rates, always a call for migrant labor.
Sometimes this is the point all along, and it was very subversive.
But even without, say, subversive forces who kind of wanted to tear down society from this get-go with trying to reduce the birth rate, there's going to be a call for more workers.
This is a quick fix to get the GDP up and pay into the system and be caretakers.
Even though in the long term, and Ann Culture makes a very strong argument about this, in the long term, this is all bad.
Immigration will cost more in the long term due to crime, social services, lack of assimilation in her book, Adios Amedica, which is very important.
So this is a quick fix.
And really, you're just taxing the future.
You're passing this on to your kids.
So my question is, Cameron, if we can't get up to 2.1, can we get up to something?
Can we get a little cushion so that we don't collapse and end up like South Korea, which at this point is going to be, I think, just conquered by North Korea because they won't have enough foreign bodies.
Or Japan is very low too.
I believe they're at, if I recall correctly, Japan is 1.1 or 1.2.
My friend Christian Siekra, he's a January 6th Patriot.
He wrote an article on countercurrents exploring Japan is also highly disturbing.
So I don't know what the magic number is where you're declining in your numbers, but you're not headed towards a catastrophe.
I want to have the biggest buffer as possible because if you get into that catastrophe, it's hard to get out.
Hungary's at 1.55.
I'll talk about Hungary later probably, but you need something and we have to take action.
Well, you know, that's very interesting that you brought up Hungary because they are supposedly doing everything right.
They're basically giving couples a bounty for having more than two children, for example.
They're doing everything they can to increase the birth rate through government policy, but it's not working.
I am blue.
Yeah.
Well, see, I've lived through all this.
I'm a boomer.
I grew up in the 50s, then the 60s, and I saw things tail off.
I've got my own theories about why that is.
But you were talking about South Korea and their catastrophe.
They're below one birth per couple.
So what is the right at it?
Yeah.
What is the similarity between us and South Korea and what are the differences?
And how does that shed light on our dilemma in Western Europe and in America?
Absolutely.
That's a good question.
So first of all, Imperium Press did an article in response to the South Korea crisis too, and their point was that what happened in South Korea is that liberalism came in and they had no cultural antibiotics.
Liberalism swept aside the old Confucius system and created an inverted system of values.
And we Westerners, for better or worse, we have been marinating in various forms of liberalism since the French Revolution.
That was really when suffering began to go downhill, according to Julius Evela and other thinkers.
But we've been exposed to this.
So it's like a population gets exposed to a disease.
Well, we've been exposed to a mind virus and we're antibiotics.
And then another big unknown, I'll make a quick point is human biodiversity.
Asians might have a different genetic makeup, so that might affect this too.
Hold on right there, David.
Pardon the interruption.
We have to take a quick break with you.
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Back now we are with David Zutty of the Homeland Institute.
I'm very high on the Homeland Institute and I'm very high on their executive director, Mr. Zuddy, who I had the opportunity to spend a couple of days with last year and get to know him better.
And you can get to know the organization better at homelandinstitute.org.
The work they're doing, nobody else is doing.
Keith, you asked a great question.
David gave an equally fine answer that he slipped in right before the break.
I would mention, I heard an American Free Press ad in the package there that first segment.
I had done an interview not too long ago with Virginia Aberdathy about the topic of immigration for the American Free Press.
And of course, the topic of cheap labor came up because there's a labor shortage, of course, to which she quite rightly pointed out.
There's not a labor shortage.
There's a shortage of slave labor or cheap labor.
And I said, you know, wouldn't it just be less expensive to incentivize existing American families to have more children than to bring in?
And of course, David, that was something you were touching on.
And I know that that's something that your poll touched on as well.
Very quickly, Keith.
You got to turn that mic on, though.
What we're missing, though, with that type of analysis is the 800-pound gorilla on the living room sofa, which is that we want to increase white birth rates.
They already have plenty of incentives out there to increase black and other non-white birth rates.
The problem in America is that if we want to have that leave-it-to-beaver world of the 50s that was so competent and so functioning, the housing days, yeah, the housing days, we're going to have to find something to kickstart white birthrights specifically.
Well, and I think David touched on it right before the break, and that is, you know, of course, when you upset people's nesting grounds and you fill them with contempt for themselves, I mean, that's going to play a role in it as well.
Right.
So it's not just like policies or money.
I think money was a huge driving force here.
For example, the inability to afford a family on a single income was a huge issue for our pollsters.
But this is very, very true.
There's a lot of other issues like feminism, immigration, urbanization.
Urbanization is another thing.
It's something we have in common in South Korea.
South Korea is highly urbanized.
They're all packed into seal, which makes them a good target for artillery.
I wouldn't do that.
But it's another thing, too.
Like, this always happens in every society.
This isn't just modern.
It happened in ancient Rome, ancient China.
This is something that Oswald Spingler observed in his Decline in the West.
Urbanization tends to drive this.
And he also had other ideas about low birth rates being driven by a civilization and injury winter.
Now, those are huge global perennial topics.
They're outside of discrete policies.
But yes, there is these awkward questions also about who does this affect.
So I'm going to start with the first question I asked, which is about, no, I only polled white Americans.
However, I did break it down by party line.
And what's interesting amongst white Republic is that among white respondents, Republicans are going to have a lot of kids already.
I ask them how many children do you already have or plan on having, along with how many would you have if you could have as many as you could.
Republicans are going to have the most kids overall.
And they also would have even way more kids if they could have as many as they could.
And this kind of ties into how Edward Dutton has discussed that there is a very strong biological component to politics.
People who are naturally pronatal are going to outbreed those who are not, I think, in the long term, but we cannot rely upon that.
I'll probably touch on that later.
Just because the stakes are so high.
But that's why I'm going to skip ahead to some of the later questions about these specific policies.
So the policy that was a cornerstone of Hungary was a, they do have a lump sum, that's correct.
And I did ask about a lump sum of $10,000, but the most popular policy when I asked, what is the single most policy that would make that would most likely induce you to have children?
It was across the board, an income tax break, which is good because this will really only benefit people who are already productive and that will tend to be white.
We cannot explicitly target white people unless, say, we have a national divorce that leads to a new constitutional convention or case law is burned up, overturned.
That's not going to happen anytime soon.
So we have to work within this system, whether we like it or not.
And a income tax break would probably, by helping productive people, you're basically helping whites.
Black people, if you look at the average income, the average financial impact of whites, Hispanics, and blacks on the budget over their lifetime, Hispanics are a net negative, blacks are a huge net negative, and whites are a positive.
So who's paying income taxes?
It's going to be white families.
I'm not sure if maybe our respondents were thinking about like, like, I don't want to just start another welfare program.
For example, a lump sum of $10,000, that might work in Hungary because you only have, you know, it's a very homogeneous society, not an issue.
In Poland, they tried $150 a month.
That actually didn't work.
I don't recommend it, although it was good for fighting childhood poverty in Poland.
But also, it would just be abused in America as another welfare system.
But the graduated income tax break, where the income tax break I proposed was 50% for parents to have two children, 100% income tax break for their whole life for three or more.
Of course, we won't put a ceiling on that.
We're not going to allow someone who makes a billion dollars a year going to write all that off just because they have three kids.
But for a middle-class family, they'd be like upper ceiling of $100,000 or something.
And that's what they wanted.
And it worked in Hungary.
Hungary, this was a flagship policy in 2011 as part of a suite of other policies.
And their birth rate rose by over 0.3.
That is huge because they were at 1.2, I believe, or something.
They were going to go extinct.
They were like Japan.
Are they at replacement level?
No, but they're at a decline that I think can be managed.
And anyone who's gone to Eastern Europe sees that these policies work.
I've kind of went on vacation there and it looks beautiful.
You see happy, normal families like we used to have in America in the 90s and night and day.
These policies do work and Hungary proves that it can be done.
And this is another huge thing that Hungary proves too.
The abortion rate between 2011, when these policies were first enacted in 2021, dropped precipitously by 41%.
And this is hugely important because for any of these policies, you might say, well, this work in theory.
If it can't be passed, it won't, it's not important.
So we have to look at electoral viability.
And I asked about that too in the poll.
And this is huge because after the Supreme Court overturned Roe versus Wade in the summer of 2022, abortion became a hot topic again.
And I do not like abortion personally, even though it tends to be only dysgenic people who use it.
But it's one of those things where it tends to galvanize the left.
And so this might be a creative solution where we can be pro-life without necessarily triggering the liberals.
They're not going to like this policy at all.
There's something about Democrats, about natalism that just triggers them.
They don't like babies or something.
The Democrats were very, very much negative Nancies about all this in the poll.
Yeah, David, this is Keith.
Let me jump in at this point.
Having lived through the 50s where families with six children were not unusual at all, and if you didn't have at least two children, people wanted to know what was wrong with you.
You had to be married and you had to have at least two children to just fit in in society.
I think that it gets down to this, this basic question.
If people, if the parents, the people having children think that their children will have a better future than they have, or at least as good, they have children.
If they think there's declining prospects for their children to either do better than them or even do as well as that, if they think that basically their standard of living is going down, they don't have children.
Now, black people see their prospects going up, so they're having plenty of children.
People come into this country.
Go ahead.
Sorry to interrupt you.
It's also K versus R reproductive strategy where whites are more quality over quantity, blacks are more quantity over quality, and therefore they're going to reproduce more regardless.
Whites are much more sensitive.
Well, same thing for the illegal immigrants.
They think that their children are going to have it better by living in America than they were, so they're having plenty of children.
The people that are not having plenty of children are the whites who see it's been ever since Brown versus Board of Education, when they put that tremendous expense on white families of having to either throw their children into the black hole of Calcutta, which is what the public schools had become after Brown, or paying for private school, they just exalt that what they did was they had fewer children.
And furthermore, don't just say that the abortionists or the people that had abortions were dysgenic.
Basically, I'm sure there were a lot of parents that said, you know, I can afford to send three children to private school, but fourth will capsize the boat.
So I just can't have another abortion.
I think that, you know, the economic reality certainly factored in.
I'm sure David wouldn't disagree with that.
And then also, as David mentioned before, so many whites have become drunk on this liberal mind virus, whereas blacks have been affirmed as a culture worthy of preservation and so on and so forth.
We're getting all the government jobs, which are, you know, you're not troubled with pesky concepts like productivity and profitability.
You've just got a job and a paycheck.
And just about if you're in an all or a majority black city, almost every government job is going to black people.
So, you know, they don't have to worry about productivity and profitability, but they are getting good jobs so they see their prospects improving, therefore more children.
I'm sure, without question, it's all of that and more.
But David, we have about a minute before our next break, and it's yours.
Yeah, so one of the other things we found was that a minor factor was the rip was there is a ripple effect because one of the factors asked about was what would happen if your if your friends had more children.
And going back to what you said about the 50s and how it was affected, like six two to six was like the norm.
There was a size, there is not a huge amount, but there was an amount that said that that would actually influence them to have children.
Was that their first?
I also asked, was the first most likely, second most likely, third most likely.
No, but before that, I asked them to rate on a scale of one to five.
And a lot of people picked four to five for that.
It wasn't a lot.
It wasn't compared to other ones, it wasn't a lot, but it was overall a lot.
And that shows that there is, they admitted that they're open to peer pressure.
And the ones who actually are open to peer pressure, it's probably more than the ones who think that they are.
So that's very optimistic if we can jumpstart this.
Coming up on a break, we're going to pick up right there.
And I'm going to reiterate the importance of this interview and of this poll conducted by the Homeland Institute with David Zutty right after this.
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And again, I'll reiterate the point.
There's so much that we could be talking about this hour and so much we will talk about.
We're going to cover everything in the news and in the headlines and in the current events, everything that you want us to talk about tonight over the course of the next two hours.
At least I think we're going to cover it all.
But again, if you don't have a strong and healthy civilization that is replicating itself, what's it matter if people are going to be able to do it?
If you don't have white people reproducing in sufficient numbers, it doesn't matter what the laws are, what the policies of the government are.
You're still going to be able to do it.
And that's why this poll is important because, again, these are scientific polls pulling hard data.
This isn't David satisfying his confirmation bias.
And you need to poll to better understand, first of all, why our birth rates are where they are and what policies could be implemented that could reverse these destructive trends.
And that's exactly the purpose of the Homeland Institute, to better understand these questions so we can better provide solutions.
And I'm just going to read very quickly, David, from the preface of this poll.
You can read along, folks, and check out the questions and the data for yourself at homelandinstitute.org.
Just go to their poll page, their poll tab.
But I'll just read very quickly the preface.
In February of 2024, a BBC article about South Korea's catastrophically low birth rate sparked a broad discussion about what exactly is driving low birth rates across so many countries.
Birth rates substantially lower than 2.1 births per woman are dangerous because a rapidly dwindling population often leads to calls for immigration as a quick fix instead of addressing the underlying problems.
This is a perilous because immigration oftentimes escalates to such an extent that it begins to replace the native population, which is, of course, what's happening here.
And by design, I might add.
However, while ironically exacerbating many of the issues that led to low birth rates to begin with, when these immigrants come in, they see better prospects for their children, so they have a very high birth rate compared to whites who, Comparatively speaking, see their children with fewer and less prospects than they have.
And to that point, such a high cost of.
I'm sorry to interrupt.
We also did it when you said intentionally.
We also, one of our earliest polls from last year was on the Great Replacement.
So if you go to our website, click on the polls and scroll down, you'll find that poll in the Great Replacement.
And we will most likely be repeating that poll this year to track progress in the public mind on that issue.
A follow-up.
Now, that is very interesting to follow up on a poll that you've already done.
We will certainly talk more about that when that time comes.
But just to very quickly wrap up from the preface, talking about why the birth rates are where they are, high cost of living, especially for housing, combined with lower wages and a hyper-competitive labor market, that prompted the Homeland Institute to explore which pro-natalist policies, this is what we're talking about this hour, would best ameliorate America's low birth rates, along with which ones would be the most electorally viable.
And more importantly, to what extent can low birth rates be solved by state intervention at all?
So these are all the questions.
Now, it's difficult to get into something so in-depth in an hour of commercial talk radio, even with the full hour.
But the Homeland Institute polled 779 respondents characteristic of white Americans aged 18 to 35.
85.6 of the respondents were registered voters.
14.4% were unregistered.
The poll has a margin of error of plus minus 3%.
And it was conducted in the first two weeks of April.
So that's the foundation.
That's what we're talking about this hour.
That resets everything for the last half of this interview.
David, it's back to you.
Right.
So this is important because we need to solve this.
And if you look at the birth rates right now, they are very projected to be extremely low.
But if the people I polled could have as many chills as they could, the birth rate would be at 2.0 for all white America, almost at replacement level.
For white Republicans, it would be over that at 2.3 or 2.5 something, which is huge.
So this isn't just a lack of interest.
That's mostly driven by Democrats who just have very, very strong anti-natalist tendencies.
And that came out when I explored electoral viability.
Democrats are just vehemently opposed to this for whatever reason.
And that does kind of go to Edward Dutton's ideas about politics being biological.
I don't get it.
It's like you dislike babies.
That's like you dislike sunshine and puppies.
There's something wrong with you.
But independents and Republicans.
So I asked them to say if they were strongly opposed, a little opposed in the middle, didn't care, in favor of strongly, a little bit and strongly.
And there were more people among independents and Republicans who were more, at least a little bit more in favor to some degree of natalist policies and opposed.
So that's a bit because these nasty, angry Democrat voters who don't like kids and scowl and wear masks probably, their votes aren't in the cards to begin with for a populist Republican candidate.
But Republicans, absolute yes, even more independents.
That's good.
You get independence.
And I also, usually I stick to pulling registered voters.
But this time I included some unregistered ones to check out how they're doing.
And what's interesting is, yes, they also were, like the Democrats, very hostile towards supporting natalist policies.
But they can't vote any less than they already do.
They already stay home.
And you might say this might trigger them to get involved and vote against a candidate.
That's not likely simply because there are so many hot topics out there that could trigger them into registering Democrat and voting.
That hasn't happened yet.
If Orange Band can't trigger them to get off the sofa and vote, I don't know what will.
Let me say that.
Let me say this, David.
David, let me just say this in regard to how the Democrats got to have the anti-natalist position they did.
It's called the sexual revolution.
It happened in the 60s.
Sex was no longer for the purpose of creating a new generation.
It was fun.
It was no longer procreation.
It was recreation.
And that's how, and they came up with all these ways to prevent having sex to result in a child being born.
They bought into that.
I don't think that a lot of the rest of the white population, the conservative population, ever did.
Well, you know, this is an aside, but I've wondered if when extrapolated, this culture of death that has been adopted by the left, if at some point in the future the tides don't turn where fundamentalists reinherit the earth.
And I'm talking about, you know, not only Christian fundamentalists, but Muslims as well.
I mean, that's something to think about, but that's not necessarily.
Well, I guess it's tangential to the conversation right now, David.
Well, Keith, actually, Keith Woods today actually wrote, he posted an article on Telegram and his Substack about that very issue about what will happen with birth rates kind of springboarding off of Ever Dutton's opinion that it's biological.
I think that could happen.
That's good.
But I don't want to rely upon it happening naturally alone.
I want to have Pro-NATOS policies to give us a cushion so that we don't go into that death spiral I talked about earlier, where you just go into this demographic catastrophe of dictatorship of the elderly, calls for mass immigration as a quick fix, which is actually just going to make it worse in the long term.
And you know, Japan is very scuffed, like Christian Secret's article talked about this otaku issue in Japan, where you have, like adult man children living with their elderly parents and it's just we want to avoid that, we want to like hungry was might have been headed that way and they got up to 1.5, 1.55 I believe, or 1.6, but it's true this, I think there will be a huge turnaround because if people could have as many Children as they couldn't in the poll.
It was 2.0, and Republicans are going to replace the liberals over time generally.
So that would be good.
I hate to say this, but white genocide, at some extent, it's also liberal genocide.
They're destroying themselves.
This is like, I know it's a little odd reference if people don't know it, but it's like the Cthulhu cult.
Cthulhu is this monster that devours his most loyal followers first.
That's like liberalism.
The people who really drink this Kool-Aid and chug it, they go extinct.
Well, see, that's what we were talking about, David.
Very interesting and a great point.
The situation is that we do not have less sex now than we had in the 50s.
If anything, we have more, but we don't are having less reproductive sex.
And also, regarding the age issue, I think that something you ought to consider is that, you know, menopause is a misnomer.
It ought to be called womenopause because women are the ones that can't reproduce as they get older.
Men can reproduce as long as they're otherwise healthy up to the end.
So consequently, you know, we ought to look into the possibility of men who have lost their wives, one reason or another, older, but they have the income and the prospects for having more children.
Our good friend, Exhibit A, Peter Brimelow, with two fantastic families, one after the other, because of the situation he helped in life.
Good point.
Yeah, well, you know, we need those old-timers having children too, if they can sustain.
We got to throw the kitchen sink at this thing.
Yeah, I do agree that I think we do need to try all sorts of stuff.
This isn't just like, I really prefer the income tax break, but also, yes, do that.
Attack feminism and the big thorny issues like single-family income, school desegregation.
But really, it's this corporate greed that's made it hard to support a family.
A lot of businessmen are not going to like that, but they need to watch out because they are not immune to demographic collapse.
They might think they are, but that's an assumption that they should not make if they're wise.
David, don't go wipe up and find out they don't have a job.
Don't go anywhere, David.
I want to keep you for the last segment of this hour.
I want to get to the summary, to the conclusion of these polls.
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TheEpicTimes.com Ladies and gentlemen, David Zutty, fantastic stuff, fantastic work being done by the Homeland Institute, particularly with these polling.
We don't have any other institutions on our side.
The focus on all polling, and polling is so important because think of all these U.S. Supreme Court decisions that have been decided on the basis of polling.
Now, that's right.
Well, we need people doing it on our side, doing it right, always right.
But in order to better crystallize our message.
Now, I got to say this, though.
You need to read the whole thing.
The whole thing is fascinating.
The entire poll, all the results, all the data.
If you're one of those people that just like Brad Griffin, who just dives into statistics and never comes back up for air.
But the conclusion, the Cliff's notes.
Now, I have to come clean.
I know you probably never did this, Keith.
But if my seventh grade English teacher is listening right now, that was back in 93, 94, I think.
Mrs. Kraft, I might have used the Cliff's notes on Old Man in the Sea.
I've been waiting to come clean on that.
But you shouldn't do that, folks.
But you can get some stuff from a summarization and a conclusion and some key takeaways.
And David does provide that for people who need it boiled down, okay?
And here are the findings of the poll when summarized.
If we do nothing about this, America will face a demographic collapse, particularly right America, which is what we're concerned about.
Fortunately, we can do something about this.
Again, these are reading from the summarization.
White Americans, especially Republicans, would have more children if they could afford to do so.
That is the result.
And if they had better prospects.
The financial cost of raising children overall was the top barrier to having more children for respondents of all party affiliations.
The number of women who just don't want to have children is almost the same as that of men.
Okay.
However, more Republican men than Republican women report the difficulty of finding a suitable partner being a barrier to having more children.
That's another whole topic, but that's important.
Pronatalist policies.
I got four more.
Pronatalist policies are electorally viable for populist candidates.
It may attract independents, previously unregistered voters, and even some Democrats.
And that was something that a friend just texted me as she listens live tonight saying, you know, I don't like all of this left-white stuff.
That's left-right stuff.
That's a Jewish category.
And to an extent, she's right about that.
Pronatalist policies may be a creative way for candidates to be pro-life without galvanizing as much opposition from the left as restricting abortion does.
This is a key one, David.
And I want everybody to listen.
An income tax break for parents followed up by a lump sum of $10,000 would be the most effective of all the pro-natalist policies.
While a monthly stipend for parents would probably decrease child poverty, it would probably have a very limited effect on the birth rate.
And finally, the difficulty of raising.
And we've got to find something, like you said, that will impact white reproductive rights without encouraging non-white rights.
Because if you want America, America is white.
What draws people to America is white civilization.
They're not coming here to go to Harlem.
I grew up in a single-income family.
My dad worked two jobs.
Okay, that was in the 80s.
It was certainly a little more atypical even in the 80s, in the early 90s, when I was a child, a boy, than it was when you were growing up, Keith.
But the final finding here in the summation is the difficulty of raising a family on a single income is probably a problem which policymakers may have to address if they're serious about fixing the birth rate, even if this clashes with powerful interests.
David, those are the summaries.
That's the conclusion.
Back to you.
What did we miss?
You summarize it extremely well.
I just want to foot stomp the thing about how women are not that more antinatal than men.
Now, sometimes in the electoral viability, they were.
For example, they were more opposed to the policies.
But I really want to challenge this meme, which I think is very subversive of you see all these women, usually white women, on TikTok or Instagram, all these silly social media things that I do social media because I have to for my job.
I'm not really into it.
But they're always like, I'm on vacation, I have no kids, it's fun, blah, blah, blah.
And what I discovered here is that maybe they're being more ostentatious about it, but for every decadent, silly girl running around into Morocco and hopefully not being brutalized by the locals, there's probably a soy boy playing with his punko pops that you don't see because they're more quiet.
And that's the thing.
I've realized this from some of the other polls that I'm seeing a general trend.
It's not that scientific yet, but left-wing women tend to be very loud or left-wing men very quiet.
Right-wing men tend to be loud and right-wing women tend to be quiet.
So what happens is that this gets on social media and it creates these echo chambers and bubbles and it sometimes what we call black pills or demoralizes people because they're like, women are so horrible.
What's all these loud liberal ones?
The nice ones aren't there.
They're probably at church or whatever and not bragging about how they're children.
Yeah.
And so that's important.
There was kind of like a difficulty of Republican men finding mates.
That's important.
But it isn't, you know, white women are not this disaster that people make them out to be.
Liberal white women are, but so are liberal white men.
It's like, yeah, the Instagram celebrity also, there's all these Funko Pop playing soy boys.
So it's that's what I'm seeing here.
So I think that should give people hope because from one of the other polls I did, people asked about, well, what about women?
And so they're very concerned about that, about finding a mate.
So I broke down the information by gender and we found interesting stuff there.
And that's the thing here.
The people who push this thing as white women are horrible.
I think that is subversive propaganda meant to divide and conquer our race.
But then on the other hand, Dave, let me say this.
There is a cause for this feminist baloney about women jump leapfrogging men in job prospects and whatnot, because women tend to go for an alpha man.
And for an alpha man in a civilized first world economy, that has to do with earnings as much as anything else, not going out and whipping somebody in a bar fight, but bringing home the bacon so that you can afford to send the children to private schools or to otherwise provide the resources necessary to have a successful family.
And, you know, feminism has hurt that.
Basically, women getting preference for managerial jobs, those are jobs that used to go to men.
And in the 50s, it was a lot easier for a woman to stay home and take care of the children without losing social status.
I totally agree, and I have two points about that to piggyback off of it.
That's a military term.
We'd like to piggyback off stuff, and I was a former NCO, but AI is going to possibly change that because AI is going to eliminate, it's not real AI, but what we call AI.
It's this advanced computing.
It's going to eliminate a lot of these kind of like womenly office jobs.
And at that point, are we going to go to UBI?
Are people who do work who will mostly be men are going to be paid a comparable salary?
And that's the huge issue that we had this computer revolution in the country and across the West, but we never saw the benefits of that.
It all went to the rich people.
The wealth gap got even more extreme despite how there is more wealth from computers.
Computers were a huge revolution.
Now we're in the incipient stages of a so-called AI revolution.
And where's the wealth going to go?
It cannot be gobbled up by these mega corps.
It has to come back to the people where we can actually have families.
And an honest day's work should get an honest day's wage.
And that is going to clash the powerful interests.
Like those powerful interests, the two are identified with me, feminism, which lauds women in the workplace, even if it makes them miserable and it's not efficient.
And also this basic vanilla corporate greed.
I just want to squeeze every nickel out of the people, unlike Henry Ford, who actually paid his people well so that they would buy his products and be happy and he could pick the best laborers.
So, of course, Henry Ford was a very European-minded person.
He was woke on certain questions as opposed to the more vulture capitalist.
Adolf Hitler is probably the most vilified white man of the early 20th century.
If you read what I have on in Wikipedia and things like this about him, he was this racist and he was this anti-Semite and this, that, and the other.
But guess what?
His policies worked and worked to create widespread prosperity among American whites.
Another hour come and gone.
One minute remaining.
David Zutty, thank you for your time tonight.
Thank you for your work.
Ladies and gentlemen, I can't reiterate this enough.
HomelandInstitute.org, this is a new organization, just not yet to its first birthday, if I'm not mistaken.
And David Zutti leading the charge there and manning the helm.
And David, with just seconds remaining, I want to thank you again and give it to you for anything we've left out, anything you would want to part the audience with before we talk to you again.
I just want to say real quickly that we do polls that other people don't do or they do not report upon.
I've had a lot of feedback from poll takers and a lot of them will say this poll is unique.
I'm not having taken one like it.
So either people, it's not just that they aren't sharing the data, they may not be asking for it at all.
So this really is groundbreaking work.
We're asking polls and questions that nobody else does, or if they do it's under lock and key, that is important because knowledge is power.
And hopefully this will get on policymakers' desks and we, despite it being an alternate institution, will do mainstream things and make a better America.
Yeah, here, here, and thank you for your work.
And yes, again, this isn't just to satisfy our own curiosity about the current decline.
It is to come up with workable solutions and to get these findings, as David just mentioned, working on polls and conducting polls that nobody else is doing to get this on the desks of policymakers.
And, well, I mean, you know, that's a worthy cause, and it's a cause worthy of support.
HomelandInstitute.org.
David, thank you again.
We will talk to you again soon.
Keep in touch, and I know you're working on something with us.
You emailed me about it, or rather, I should say.
Yes, you emailed me about it.
Good stuff is in the works.
Yes, keep me posted on that.
That'll be very interesting if it pans out, ladies and gentlemen.
And in any event, we'll stay in close contact with David and get all of the latest information from the Homeland Institute as they make it available.
Thank you again, David.
We'll be back to get into all the news that is news, the current headlines, the breaking news, the trends, and all of that stuff.