April 13, 2024 - The Political Cesspool - James Edwards
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You're listening to the Liberty News Radio Network, and this is the Political Cesspool.
The Political Cesspool, known across the South and worldwide as the South's foremost populist conservative radio program.
And here to guide you through the murky waters of the Political Cesspool is your host, James Edwards.
We are a bamboo brothers and native to the soil, fighting for our liberty with treasure blood and toil.
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As long as the union was faithful to her trust Like friends and like brethren, kind we were and just But now an old century attempts our backs to mar, will I still have a bunny boy flag that bears a single star?
Hurrah, hurrah, for southern rights to go.
Hurrah for the bodybuilder flag that bears a single star.
Ladies and gentlemen, Dr. Michael Hill has been a friend and a role model for me for as long as I can remember.
He's just one of those guys who just seemed to have always been there.
Been there so long, I can't even remember the first time we met.
But every time we talk and every time we collaborate, it is to my benefit.
And he rejoins us now every time he's on the show.
It's a great program.
But to have him on during April, his annual visit during Confederate History Month is something that I always look forward to.
Of course, Dr. Michael Hill is the president of the League of the South, a retired university professor of history and author of two books on Celtic warfare, which we have discussed on this program.
He's in the archives all throughout it, throughout all these years, a lot of appearances, all of them.
Noteworthy.
Dr. Hill, it's great to have you back tonight.
James, always good to be on your show, brother.
I always appreciate the invitation.
I always appreciate you accepting it, especially during Confederate History Month.
So let's start there.
We're going to get into some hard and hot topics this hour.
But first, I want to start off a little bit on the lighter side.
Well, I don't know how light it is, but I'd like to mention this.
And you may not even remember this.
So apologies in advance for putting you on the spot.
But about 10 years ago, you wrote an article that we republish every year on our website.
And we're going to republish it.
In fact, again, this coming up week, folks.
So be sure to check it out at thepoliticalcesspool.org.
It was entitled, Why My Heart's in Dixie.
Do you remember that one, Mike?
I remember that, James.
I certainly do.
I appreciate you publishing it.
Every year we do, and that tradition will continue this Confederate History Month 2024.
If you could break it down in maybe two or three minutes, what would you convey to the audience?
Well, this is where my family put down roots when I came here.
This land is part of who I am.
It's molded and shaped me into the man that I become.
And these roots are blood and soil.
That's pretty much what this article was about.
And, you know, so many people just don't really understand what we Southerners understand about our particular part of this beautiful world.
And that is, you know, it is a part of us that should we lose it, it would basically destroy who we are.
We couldn't thrive, I don't think, anywhere else outside of this area because this is this is home.
I mean, I know that sounds incredible to some people, but they don't understand the connection that we have, the intangible connection, I guess you might say, to this land and our blood has soaked into this soil in our toil and our fighting to preserve our rights here and what our Confederate ancestors did 160 something years ago now, I guess.
It's just something that's very difficult to explain to an outsider, but it is go ahead, Michael, please.
No, I was going to say that once your heart is here, that it's not going anywhere else.
You may take the rest of your body somewhere else, but your heart is going to remain where your home is.
And our home is sacred to us.
And that's something that we Southerners largely as a Christian people have understood: these connections that we have to this land and to the blood that has built it.
These are really very deep, deep connections that go straight back to our Creator and what He has endowed us with here as Southerners.
It's really hard to explain that to somebody who's an outsider, James.
You know that is hard to explain it.
You can read it for yourself.
It's almost autobiographical in nature.
It talks about the land and Michael's grandparents and all of it.
We're going to repost it.
I believe it's scheduled to post on Friday of this coming up week.
And so check it out at our website.
And I wrote one similar after the fact and far inferior.
It's called It's Personal that talks about my ancestry here in the South and the two very small rural communities in Mississippi from which both sides of my grandparents came from.
And of course, going back to the war, I am just a second generation Tennessean.
My parents were the first.
Before that, it went back to Mississippi prior to the 1860s.
But tell me if this sounds just about right.
This is one of the perhaps the most beautiful thing I've ever read written about the South.
And the hair on my arm stands up every time I read it.
This is, it'd be very well familiar to you, Michael, Edward Carmack's Pledge to the South.
It reads, The South is a land that has known sorrows.
It is a land that has broken the ashen crust and moistened it with tears.
A land scarred and riven by the plowshare of war and billowed with the graves of her dead, but a land of legend, a land of song, a land of hallowed and heroic memories.
To that land, every drop of my blood, every fiber of my being, every pulsation of my heart is consecrated forever.
I was born of her womb.
I was nurtured at her breast.
And when my last hour shall come, I pray God I may be pillowed upon her bosom and rocked to sleep within her tender and encircling arms.
That is something that only a southerner could truly know and feel.
That's exactly right, James.
That's so beautiful.
And it does make the hair on the back of my neck stand up as well.
So I just can't get enough of your something like that.
Beautiful words, beautiful and true.
Michael, as we transition a little bit, and I wanted to be sure to make mention of that article that you wrote nearly a decade ago, or it was at least a decade ago when I first read it.
It may even be older than that, but people can read it again this week.
And thank you for using that time to set up this hour that we're going to have together.
I want to make one more mention of something before we get into, again, as I said, the hard topics throughout the next three segments.
It was this time last year, in fact, April 1st of 2023, that the book, The Honorable Cause, came out.
And that was a book that featured 12 authors.
You and I were included in that company.
And it did quite well, and it was well reviewed.
And it was a real honor to have participated in that endeavor with you.
Tell us a little bit about the chapter that you wrote, which was really a standout chapter.
Well, I appreciate that, James.
I thought all the chapters in that book were excellent.
I was very, very proud to have been asked to be a part of it.
I think my essay in there, the crux of it was organic nationalism versus liberal democracy.
You know, Americans have been sold to Bill of Goods on that liberal democracy is the only proper political system for America.
And that's because basically our history has been hijacked in the last hundred years and we've been told lies.
Organic nationalism, which is just a fancy way of saying blood and soil connections and relations, as I mentioned before, that's really what you have to have to have a true, true nation state.
Because what is the definition of a nation?
It's not a land with borders.
That's a country.
And the state is the government.
Exactly.
The nation is the people, the people.
And we're talking about a distinct people, a people that are connected by blood, by culture, by their folkways, by their language, all the markers, civilizational markers there are in line for a people.
And you are able to identify with each other.
That's why we Southerners, you know, we go somewhere else and we run into other Southerners and we have this immediate kinship with them, you know, because we know we are a people, a distinct people.
And that was my crux of that whole article is that until we get back to the political system that is based or grows out of that realization of what a real nation is, that we will never, never be a free and prosperous people again, because liberal democracy is antithetical to the South.
It has no roots or origins in the South.
The South was a hierarchical society.
It's one in which democracy, if there was such a thing, I mean, you could say that there was a sort of Athenian, ancient Athenian democracy that was in play in the South, but this modern liberal democracy where, you know, everybody that can sneak across the border is a legitimate vote, it's nothing but a racial headcount.
And my point in the end was, if Southerners continue to embrace this, we're going to be swamped by Okay, we've got to take a quick break.
I hear the music will be.
The Honorable Cause, A Free South is a collection of 12 essays written by Southern Nationalist authors.
The book explores topics such as what is the Southern nation?
What is Southern nationalism?
And how can we achieve a free and independent dictionary?
The Honorable Cause answers questions on our own terms.
The book invites readers to understand for themselves why a free and independent diction is both preferable and possible.
The book pulls in some of the biggest producers of pro-South content, including James Edwards, the host and creator of The Political Cesspoo, and Wilson Smith, author of Charlottesville Untold, Arkansas congressional candidate and activist Neil Kumar,
host and creator of the dissident mama podcast, Rebecca Dillingham, author of A Walk in the Park, My Charlottesville Story, Identity Diction, Patrick Martin, and yours truly, Michael Hill, founder and president of the League of the South, as well as several other authors.
The Honorable Cause is available now at Amazon.com.
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Her skylined South Carolina, nobody made to stand.
Then came Alabama and took her by the hand.
Next quickly, Mississippi, Georgia, Florida, or raised on high the funny flag that bears a single star.
Hurrah, hurrah, southern Iceland, hurrah for the body.
The men of valor gather around the banner of the right.
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South Carolina, Alabama, Mississippi, those are the ones that kicked it all off.
I am proud to say.
I am proud to be a Tennessean.
I mean, Nathan Bedford Forrest is a Tennessean and a born and bred Tennessean.
I am proud to be born in Tennessee, but my people at the time of the war were in Mississippi right next door to Michael Hill.
And, you know, Michael, our ancestors were together on the battlefield back then.
And here we are today.
And there's something poetic about that.
And I appreciate it.
Through time and space, we find one another.
That is through time and space we tend to find each other.
Yeah, I think a lot of us Southern boys and the ladies among us too could go back there and find a lot of ancestors who fought together and they knew each other and through time, brother, we know each other.
And that is a marvelous gift right there.
It is genetic predisposition.
I do believe that.
I mean, what are the odds?
I mean, you know, I know that our ancestors were together on the battlefield.
I mean, they truly were at Shiloh.
And so.
Yeah, we know that.
I mean, it's an absolute fact.
We know that.
And then here we are now fighting in the way that we can.
But yeah, I just want to say very quickly the book, we were talking about your contribution to it, The Honorable Cause, still as good today as it was last year.
And we did a kickoff, a book signing that first weekend in April of 2023.
People lined up for that book.
Michael, you had a prior commitment or conflicting commitment that weekend, but I was there with Patrick Martin and Ann Wilson Smith and Rebecca Dillingham there at Dixie Republic.
And it was a wonderful turnout for the launch of that book.
And I want to read something to you now that a listener sent in.
I have been saving this for over a month, and I was saving it for your appearance, Michael, because it is an earnest and a sincere question from a listener in Indiana who supports the show financially, helps support the program.
He writes this: James and Keith, keep up the good work, but do you have to continue to make such a big deal of the war between North and South?
That was almost 200 years ago.
95% of the people now don't know what it was about, nor would they fight in it today.
Hopefully, a majority of whites see themselves in brotherhood with fellow whites, especially with this country being taken over by third worlders from Africa, Asia, and Latin America, Middle Easterners, also, just so Biden and his puppet masters can retain power.
There is truth in what he's saying, but I would say this: yes, we are part.
And I want to get your opinion on this, Michael, and your answer to this, which I'm sure will exceed my meager attempt at it here.
Yes, of course, we are all part of a greater and a wider European family.
However, for us, for people like me and Michael Hill, and the people that you'll be hearing from on the program this month, our southern patrimony is the nearest healthy branch of the family tree.
They were the last people to fight like that on this continent.
And that is something that is just, it goes to our very soul, our hearts, the very fiber of our being.
And so while the southern expression may be the nearest and dearest to our heart due to time and where we are at in this world, yes, we share a fellow kinship with our European brothers, both outside of Dixie here in the United States, the so-called states, or wherever they may be in the mother continent.
We are not trying to continue to fight these provincial battles.
We are all one European family.
However, we are proud of the southern part of our being, and we will never do anything but highlight that, especially this month.
This is a month of remembrance for their sacrifice on behalf of all of us.
Michael, your take.
Well, Jared, I agree with you.
I can see his point.
We are part of a wider pan-European family, the white race.
I mean, just to come right down to it.
And the way I look at it is, I think, very similar to the way you look at it.
Southern men and women are my immediate family.
They're my brothers and sisters.
Whites from other places are my cousins.
And I love my cousins, but I love my brothers and sisters even more.
That's it.
You nailed it.
Yeah, so I identify with my brothers and sisters.
You know, that's where my first loyalty lies.
You know, I went on, had an architect with Richard Stitcher about this.
He's, of course, a pan-European, pan-white.
You know, so I've got no, I told you, I got nothing against that.
I said, what do you think the world would be like if we didn't have the different ethnicities?
You know, Southerners, Englishmen, Scots, Irish, French, Germans, Swedes, etc.
It would be, you know, kind of a dull, dull world without the differentiation of those ethnic groups there because we've all contributed different things to the overall general white experience.
So I think you can look at this two ways, but you have got to say that your first loyalty and allegiance is to those closest to you.
And for us Southerners, it's fellow Southerners.
Exactly.
And it's not at the exclusion or the expense of other right-thinking people who agree with us on the issues.
I mean, this program receives support from all 50 states throughout Europe, throughout Canada, Brazil.
I mean, you name it, Australia.
But yes, I mean, this is who we are.
And of course, we're going to be proud of that, not at the expense or the exclusion of other people who are right-thinking, who have not the shared experience of having been born in the South and fought as our ancestors fought.
So I think that is a more than sufficient answer to that particular question.
James, I got one thing else to add, too.
Please.
I'm a reasonable man.
When these northern white folks will say four words, they can come back in and all will be forgiven.
The South was right.
That's what I want to hear.
I just want to hear it.
Michael folks were right.
Michael, a lot of them say it, and you know that they say it, and I know that they say it, and I am thankful for the fact that they say it.
There are a lot of people who are copperheads and people who just so happen to have been born outside of Dixie, but are thinking just like us.
But I got to say this.
I got to say this for just my own personal part.
The South was right.
And there's no shame to bear.
In fact, and I wonder, you know, if I'd been born outside of the South, you know, how would I reconcile that?
I would reconcile it in ideology, no doubt.
But having been born in the South, I got to say, I feel as though I won the genetic lottery for God to have allowed me to come into this world as a Southern man and to have that patrimony, that fighting spirit in my blood and in my bones, and to have been raised in a former Confederate state.
This is a birthright.
And I wouldn't trade that for anything.
And it's a great sense of pride that we should all share if you're a Southerner.
And for anybody born outside of the South, yes, you know, be a fellow ideological traveler as so many of you are.
And I'm so thankful for everybody listening.
Got big-time supporters outside of the South that are, you know, certainly every bit as much as our brothers, Michael, as certainly much more so than the odious Russell Moore, who had Confederate ancestors and who was born in Mississippi and who was repudiated.
You know, so what about that?
What about people?
What would you say about the people who have that same patrimony as we do, but have gone that route versus the right-thinking people of the North and in Europe who are with us in spirit?
Yeah, they shame their birthrights, exactly what they've done.
Absolutely.
That's what they've done.
And that is truly shameful to do that.
And I don't think God smiles on it because of the fifth commandment, honor thy father and mother.
That means to honor your ancestors, whether they were perfect or not.
And of course, everybody's ancestors have got flaws, but it seems like they really want to point out the flaws of ours more so than anyone else's.
But, you know, Russell Moore can go straight to hell as far as I'm concerned.
And I mean that.
He's dishonored his heritage or his inheritance from God.
And that is a sinful thing.
Especially with the fact that they were Christians and they were right and they were right about it all and they have been proven right.
Go to Birmingham or Atlanta or Baltimore or Memphis or Detroit.
They were right about everything.
They were right about it all.
They were right about the cause.
They were right about everything.
Nothing that they did was wrong.
The only thing that they did that was wrong was that they didn't listen to Stonewall Jackson and raise the black flag.
They were too good.
That was their only fault.
That's exactly right, James.
When Jackson said, you know, when somebody's invading your homes and trying to burn them down and destroy everything and everyone that you love, you kill them all.
And that's exactly what you do.
And they didn't listen.
They were too good.
And, well, I mean, we're all great Monday morning quarterbacks, and hindsight is 2020.
But I was talking about this with Mike Gaddy last week.
And again, I don't want to chase a hare, but that first Manassas.
It was right there.
Right there.
Anyway, but I'll tell you this: with regards to our wider European family, so many outside of this country certainly agree with us and celebrate the South as we do, even if they don't share the genetic heritage.
That book we were talking about, The Honorable Cause, was well reviewed and well-reviewed outside of the United States.
My goodness, we've just had two back-to-back series: March Around the World, where it's exclusively European or international guests, I should say.
And now Confederate History Month, where it's exclusively Southern guests.
But reviewing the book, Tom Sunich of Croatia, who was on the show last month, this book represents a timely sequel to the prose of the early Southern Agrarians.
It should be read twice, not just as an aspiring for an aspiring nationalist in America, but by the larger academic community in Europe and America.
It was well reviewed by Sasha Ross Mueller for his magazine in Germany and many others.
We'll be right back with Michael Hill.
Stay tuned.
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And here's to brave Virginia, the old dominion state, with the young Confederacy at length has been to fate.
Impelled by her example, now other states prepare.
So hoist on high, the fun will be flagged, but there's a single star.
Hoorah!
Hoorah!
There's a single star.
Then cheer, boys, cheer, and raise a joyous shout.
For Arkansas and North Carolina now have both gone out.
And let another rousing cheer for Tennessee be given.
The single star of the bunny blue flag has grown to be 11.
Hurrah!
They fought.
They fought.
Will there ever be another fight like that?
Well, we're going to get to Michael Hill's opinion on that according to a recent poll.
But I want to say one more thing, and I ran out of time on it in the last segment.
But yes, we love all of our extended European family, and they love us.
We read the review of the book, The Honorable Cause, that was released last year, this month, last year.
We still play the ads.
It's still selling.
Michael Hill and yours truly had a chance to be two of the 12 authors who pinned a chapter in that.
This comes from Sasha Ross Mueller, who you also heard from last month, representing Germany during our march around the world for his magazine, his print magazine.
He wrote this as part of his review.
The South is rising again.
If a manifesto is needed in order to back up this claim, it's already been written.
The Honorable Cause, a Free South, qualifies as a written work for liberation because it addresses not only the head, but also the heart and soul.
The reader experiences the resurrection of the southern states in a visionary orientation that is not limited to a nostalgic retrospective.
Michael, when you hear a former Croatian diplomat like Tom Sunich, when you hear Sasha Ross Mueller writing for a German print magazine that is on sale in newsstands in Germany, writing reviews like that from Europe about a book about secession from a southern perspective, how does that make you feel?
Well, it makes me feel very happy.
I know Tom Sunich very well.
I'm just overjoyed that the book got such good press on the right in Europe like that, because I think this is a global issue, really.
What happens in the South, what happens in America affects everybody else in the world.
And what happens in the South is going to be the most important thing that happens in America one of these days.
Wait and see.
Well, you know, one thing that I hear time and time again when I talk with our European comrades is that to them, and the Confederate flag can be seen all throughout Europe.
And they say to them, when they see a Confederate flag at any of these nationalist demonstrations in Europe, wherever it may be, it is the symbol, to them, it is the symbol of resistance to tyranny, a global symbol of resistance to tyranny.
That's what it is.
It's become a global symbol of freedom for whites.
And I love it when I see people in other countries waving that banner.
It's a great honor for us that they do that.
Absolutely.
Absolutely.
And with that being said, let's go to this.
This is a new poll.
Now, I am being repetitive here because we did make mention of this in the first hour, but I think it's important to bring it back to the attention in the second hour, first as a point of emphasis, but also to get Michael Hill's opinion on it.
This is a PBS News Hour NPR Marist poll, Michael, just been released, and it was a poll being conducted because the big new movie out is called Civil War.
And in this movie, dissident factions take control of the Capitol, and they begin executing journalists.
And, you know, that's just a terrible thing.
But, wow.
So this is in the movie.
And I think Brad Griffin is seeing the movie this week.
He's going to write an article about it, a review about it.
And I said jokingly in the first hour.
I said jokingly in the first hour.
I don't know if this is supposed to be a cautionary tale or instructive, but anyway, this is the big movie, and it's supposed to be a big-time film.
But anyway, On the back of this movie being released, there's a new poll out, and these are the findings.
One in five U.S. adults, that's 20%, Michael, believe that Americans will have to resort to violence to get their own country back on track.
And experts say this puts the nation on, quote, an incredibly dangerous path, end quote, in the months before the 2024 election.
41% say Americans, 41% of Americans say they will need an authoritarian ruler willing to break the rules.
And it goes on from there.
So 20% say only violence will solve the struggle.
Soap and water aren't going to clean up this mess.
41% saying you're going to have to have a leader, a strong man that's willing to break the rules.
That's 56% of Republicans, by the way, in that 41%.
84% of Republicans saying all illegal aliens should be deported.
77% of Republicans saying that discrimination against white people is a bigger issue than discrimination against other groups.
77% of Republicans saying America is too politically correct.
That's half the country.
84%, 77%, 77%, 20% saying it's violence or bust.
I'm not saying we're endorsing that.
We're certainly not advocating for it.
You go out and you do something stupid.
You're going to get arrested.
You're not going to be a martyr.
You're going to be put in jail and taken away from your family.
However, Michael, it just goes to show that Humpty Dumpty isn't getting put back together again as it exists today, not on this continent, not ever.
What do you make of these findings?
Well, I think that 20% is only going to grow because I think the closer we get to the election and the subsequent inauguration in January of next year, we're going to see the system falling apart.
I mean, it already, to people like you and you and me and your listeners, we know that this system is falling apart.
And we've known for a long time that it would fall apart.
But it's in the process of doing that right now.
And how fast it continues is going to have an impact on what kind of future we see.
Is a civil war in America possible?
It's not only possible, it's getting more likely with the passing of every week.
Because I'll say this until I'm blue in the face, I guess, but in the current situation, you know, having behind us now one stolen presidential election and probably a stolen off-year election as well, neither side is going to accept the results of the election in November.
And if you've got two sides like that, and I don't know how evenly divided they are, but there's certainly a substantial number of people on either side, and they all are full of passionate intensity, as Gates said.
I just can't see either side accepting the other's victory.
And when that happens, you don't have a country.
You have two quarreling sides.
And the only way to avoid a civil war in that situation is to separate off into separate ethno, what I'd call ethno-states.
Because this is going to be this war, if it comes, and I pray it doesn't.
I've seen war.
I don't want to see it again up close if it's possible.
You know, I just really think that it's almost inevitable that some kind of conflict is going to happen unless something just amazing happens to stop it.
And James would like me.
I don't see what that is.
Well, Michael, look at that.
You had irreconcilable differences in 1861.
And think of how much more commonality we had with our northern adversaries in 1861 than we do now.
Now, this Tower of Babel, there is no commonality.
There are no ties that bind, not race, not religion, not language, not culture, not anything.
Nothing.
Nothing is going to keep this thing together.
It's just a matter of how much violence is going to have to be.
It's just a matter of how much violence is going to have to be.
That's exactly right, Jace, because, you know, 160 years ago, you had two groups of white men fighting each other, and there were cultural similarities there, even though there were major differences.
And there were certainly racial similarities.
But in this case, you know, you've not only got an ideological conflict looming, it's going to have a racial component and ethnic components.
It's just going to be one of those.
It's going to be like the Balkans in the early 1990s.
Anybody who doesn't know what went on over there, you need to educate yourself about it and prepare yourself for something like that.
And there's nothing.
You don't have two sides.
You have multiple sides.
And there's nothing that is shielding America from that eventuality.
What makes us special?
Because we live here.
There's nothing different about America.
There's nothing that's going to protect or save America from those fates because we have entered into this situation where, I mean, you cannot have all of these quarreling tribes occupying the same living space.
It just doesn't work.
It's not going to work.
The only thing tying us together now is a tenuous economy.
Other than that, everybody hates everybody.
Very tenuous, James.
And it's beginning to show signs of some very, very big changes.
Big gold and silver prices, bond prices, all kinds of things are just really, really out of the ordinary right now, which leads me to believe that the economy is just on the verge of some kind of tipping point here.
And when that goes, I mean, the mask, as you said, the mask is off.
That's the only thing, the tenuous thing that holds this country together right now is an economy that still functions a little bit, you know.
Vapid consumerism.
You know, that's the only thing that connects Americans is our love of entertainment and consumerism.
But listen, the first time I went to McDonald's, it was 50 bucks to feed the kids.
I was like, you know, something's up.
Something's up.
And we'll be right back.
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I really don't want to talk about this, but I will.
I'm just so mad.
I didn't get asked to the junior prom, and it's raining, which means by the time I get to school, I'm soaking wet.
Dad picked me up just after I left, and I was so mad I got out and he said, wait, your mom said to give you this.
I forgot my lunch money, and then I dropped it in the water, and I was late for history.
And so at lunchtime, I had to find something on Jon Stewart Mill, which, of course, our library didn't have.
So I had to walk all the way down to the office to call my mom and she found something on the internet and call me back.
And Karen, she wouldn't even help me.
And that's a whole nother story.
But dad helped me conjugate nouns or whatever on the way to the swim team workout.
And then he read my history paper while I was in the pool.
And of course, I forgot the bibliography.
So I had to do that with my mother when I got home.
And it made me totally forget that I put my jeans in the washer that morning.
I hate it when they sit wet like that all day and smell like mildew.
But my mom said she put them in the dryer while I was at the swim team.
And, you know, I'm just not going to go to the prom no matter who asks me.
I just want to stay home with my mom and dad and just hang out.
Isn't it about time?
Unless Dustin asks me.
From the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.
Then here's to our Confederacy, strong we are and brave.
Like patriots of all we'll fight our heritage to save.
And rather than submit to shame to die, we would prefer.
So cheer, cheer for that wonderful flag if there's a single star.
Hurrah, hurrah, southern Alexander.
Hurrah for the body of man if there's a single star.
Hurrah, hurrah, for southern Atlas.
Hurrah for the body of man if there's a single star.
That's our anthem, that and Dixie.
And before I go any further, and we've got to make haste here, I want to make mention of the fact that the League of the South is an organization worthy of your support and your membership.
I am proud to be associated with it, proud to be a member.
We call him Chooth Hill in the League of the South.
And Michael, please give people just maybe 60 seconds on where they can find out more information and the stated mission of the League.
Yeah, James, we've been a Southern Nationalist organization that seeks a free and independent South.
Now it'll be 30 years in July, I mean June, when we'll mark our anniversary.
You can reach the league at www.leagofthesouth.com.
And on there is a means of contacting me by email or by telephone.
And I'll be glad to talk with you.
I'd be glad to send you an information packet, including a sample copy of the Free Magnolia, our fine quarterly cowboy publication.
So we're a Southern Nationalist group, and we make no bones about the fact that we want a free and independent South, our own ethno-state.
As all unique individual people groups should have.
Whoever, whatever your race is, whatever your ethnicity, whatever your background, everybody should have self-determination.
Unfortunately for the left, I have to say that includes white people, and that's why we're here.
So that being said, League of the South.com, join up.
You'll be glad you did.
Michael, we were going back to this new poll out.
PBS, okay?
NPR poll.
20% of Americans.
This isn't James and Michael.
We called five people.
One of them said, you know, we've got to go the violent route.
No, this was the PBS poll.
20% of Americans now think that violence is the only way to reconcile the discontent.
That's a scary thing.
As Michael said, we don't want that.
I'm a husband.
I'm a father.
I've got three kids in the nest.
I don't want that to befall them.
I want a peaceful separation.
I am a separatist.
We have to be separate.
We cannot.
There is no future for our people, for white Christian southerners on this continent.
There is no future under the present arrangement, Michael.
None.
No, there's not.
Except death and despair.
That's it.
Now, this is a go ahead.
If you want to pontificate or elaborate, not pontificate, elaborate.
Yeah, absolutely.
I don't think it's 20% of people want this to happen.
I think it's 20% of the people who are looking at this closely as a great possibility of it happening.
And I would include myself in that 20%.
I certainly don't want to see it.
I mean, there are certain things that are worse than war and death, and that is slavery.
Subjugation and dispossession and subjugation.
Exactly.
I'd rather fight and die than be subjugated by these people.
So, you know, I certainly don't rule that out because violence does settle a lot of things.
But in this case, I think that those 20% are simply saying, yeah, I see this as a great possibility or maybe even a probability or maybe something that's absolutely going to happen.
Well, the dividing lines are only going to be realistic.
Well, it is.
It's honest because the lines that divide us are only going to further widen.
Whether we want that or not want that, I mean, we're not going to become any closer because we have nothing in common.
Why would we want to?
Now, this new poll, I think, continues on a trend, Michael.
You gave me the opportunity to speak at a League of the South conference last fall, and I used some of the findings that I presented in my American Renaissance speech a couple of months earlier, including these polls.
Now, these were polls that were conducted last year.
We just gave you that poll.
This is a Rasmussen poll from last year.
47% of Republican voters support a national divorce.
And by the way, that was the majority because it wasn't, do you support it?
Do you not support it?
It was, do you support it?
Do you not support it?
Or are you unsure?
And out of the three options, 47% saying, yes, we need to separate was the majority.
So more Republicans now, according to this Rasmussen poll, now support a national divorce than oppose it.
And so whether it's opposing anti-whitism or the great replacement or desiring a national divorce or so-called extremist views, Michael, sure are going mainstream pretty rapidly.
And the country is more polarized than ever before.
Irreconcilable differences.
Millions of people now are open to secession.
And most expect to see a civil war in their lifetimes.
20% now say violence is the only answer.
The public has begun to accept the fact that this cannot continue.
And secession movements, and I'll move very quickly on this.
We're running out of time.
Secession movements are spreading up all over the country, and none of them in theory.
You know that counties in Oregon are trying to break away and join Idaho on a county level.
That's happening.
Greater West Virginia, counties in Illinois, just in the summer of 2022 in Texas.
Well, I'll read from Salon magazine here.
It reads last weekend in Houston is talking about in 2022.
Texas Republicans got a taste of just how far right their party has become.
At the GOP state convention, delegates officially voted to declare Joe Biden an illegitimate president, proposed repealing the 1965 Voting Rights Act, and Texas state representative, Brian Slayton, introduced a bill that would place a referendum on Texas's secession from the Union.
It was House Bill 3596 in Texas.
Now, obviously, it didn't pass.
You would have heard about it.
But even in Maine, Michael, in Maine, they actually got a vote to the floor to secede from the Union in Maine.
The Portland Press-Herald report, New Hampshire, excuse me, not Maine.
It was in New Hampshire, but it was the Maine newspaper, the Portland Press-Herald.
New Hampshire House votes on seceding from the United States.
Read this very quickly.
The proposal called for independence from the United States and all references to the United States in the New Hampshire state constitution statutes and regulations be nullified, end quote.
As I said, as you probably surmised, it failed, but 13 lawmakers in the New Hampshire State House, Michael, voted in favor of seceding from the Union last year.
And in doing so himself, Representative Matthew Santosaso argued that it was just a matter of time before the union collapses.
He said this, and I quote, national divorce is going to happen.
It's inevitable.
And we have an opportunity to get ahead of this, end quote.
Oregon, Texas, New Hampshire.
Michael, something is different.
It is not just our gatherings and our meetings anymore.
County governments, state Republican parties, and setting representatives of state legislatures are calling for secession.
And they're not all calling for secession for the same reasons we might want it.
But this is something that is happening not just in the South, but in the Northwest and in the Northeast.
What do you make of that?
Well, I think people are seeing the handwriting on the wall.
This system, as it exists now, can't continue to function.
It is broken, beyond repair, and we don't need to even try to repair it.
We need a new system.
And people are realizing that.
And I'm so gratified.
I've been working at this for 30 years from a southern point of view, but I'm tremendously gratified to see people picking up on this.
And I think this movement is real.
I really do.
I would say this: to close out another fantastic hour with you, my friend.
Our issues are no more or less true and valid today than they were in previous decades or generations or even centuries.
All right?
But the timing wasn't right.
That's right.
Conditions weren't yet favorable.
They're getting there, observably so.
The political rhetoric has become far more strident and apocalyptic and revolutionary on both sides.
And the present trends of cultural disintegration, polarization, and political instability cannot continue indefinitely.
I just don't believe that they can.
I don't believe that they will.
And once it reaches a certain threshold, still to be determined by the population at large, that instability that we are feeling right now is going to devolve into conflict.
And conflict resolves polarization by vanquishing one side or the other and establishing a new normal.
That is what's coming.
Yeah, James, it's like a big pile of dry kindliness.
It's just waiting for the right spark.
And again, I got to repeat: don't go out and do anything stupid.
Don't hasten the day.
This is all coming apart by the sheer gravity and the weight of its absurdity.
This current transgenderism and whatnot, all of it.
Don't go out and do anything stupid like engaging in or advocating for violence, but know that this is coming and it is coming.
And what can you do?
What should you do?
Engage and build parallel communities of like-minded people, support one another.
There's a lot of ways you can do that.
Absolutely, James.
Yeah, I think the spark for this thing will come from the left or from D.C., which is the heart of the left.
I think it will come there, and then it's going to explode.
I don't see any way around it.
Right now, as we speak, I mean, Iran, I mean, I'm live on the radio and I haven't been able to follow this, but apparently, according to news reports, at this very moment, Iran is bombing Israel.
So, I mean, there are so many things that could change, that could change on a dime and on a pivot and have unintended but potentially very beneficial dividends for us.
You better believe it, James.
Anything that weakens this system and brings it down is going to be a net positive for us.
We may have some hard times to go through.
And as you said, prepare.
And the first thing you need to do is make sure you yourself are in good health.
Work out, eat right, get yourself ready for what's coming.
That's right.
And it's not coming because we want it, but it's coming because it was inevitable because you cannot have different quarreling groups occupying the same living space and there'd be harmony.
There is going to be discontent.
There is discontent, and it is unraveling.
And whether we want it or not, we need to be prepared.
And we're looking at the polls and we're just talking about them here.
Leagueofthesouth.com, if you want to be part of the solution, Michael, thank you so much.
Happy Confederate History and Heritage Month.
And we will talk to you again very, very soon.
And see you soon, too.
Yeah, thank you, James.
I'm looking forward to it, brother.
All right.
My friend and yours, my brother, Dr. Michael Hill, Lake the South.
We could put together a real good TPC university.
Dr. Michael Hill, Dr. Kevin McDonald, Virginia Abernathy, so many others.