Feb. 17, 2024 - The Political Cesspool - James Edwards
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You're listening to the Liberty News Radio Network, and this is the Political Cesspool.
The Political Cesspool, known across the South and worldwide as the South's foremost populist conservative radio program.
And here to guide you through the murky waters of the political cesspool is your host, James Edwards.
Folks, we're continuing the conversation from the first hour into hour two tonight.
And I'll tell you the truth.
Give me any presidential candidate.
Give me any congressman, senator.
I don't care.
Every town, every local market has their aspirational Rush Limbaugh or Sean Hannity that can read the RNC press releases.
They can read the press releases from Conservatism Incorporated.
They can have on the members of Congress.
That's never what I wanted to do.
All I ever wanted to do was have conversations like this with guests like Sam Dixon.
I mean, that is what we have built this program on for two decades and running now.
This is the kind of radio that people need to be hearing.
And this is the radio that no one is going to get anywhere else.
For example, I've listened to all sorts of podcasts about the Carson Putin interview, and I have a hot scene one that compares with the meat, basically, and the substance that we've had in the conversation with Sam.
Being provided by our guests tonight, and that's the thing.
I mean, I was just the guy who got the phone numbers that could call up guests like this to add substance to talk radio.
This is what we do here.
And it's nights like this.
Again, I say it from time to time that remind me of why we ever started to begin with.
But back for an hour number two with Sam Dixon, author, attorney, orator, everybody.
Long-time listeners all know Sam.
But Sam, we got to go quick here.
We have to make haste because we have still more to get to than even two hours will allow.
I'm going to read very quickly some reactions to this.
First from Paul Craig Roberts, a quick take from you, and then we'll go on and on and on like that.
And questions from the audience as well.
Here's what Paul Craig Roberts said, Sam, former secretary of the Treasury under Reagan, also assistant secretary.
Well.
Well, we'll promote him here.
But anyway, no, he's a great guy.
Tucker Carlson did a good thing by giving us a two-hour view of how Vladimir Putin thinks the neoconservative warmongers and the shills for the armament industries are angry because Putin did not present as they have portrayed him, an evil aggressor out to conquer Europe.
My concern, this is Paul Craig Roberts' writing, remains that Putin's reasonableness will continue to be taken advantage of by Washington until the conflict Putin seeks to avoid becomes unavoidable.
Sam?
Well, you know, you wonder, Putin did not make any appeal to the American people.
I don't know whether that would have been wise or not.
He didn't make any effort to go over the heads of these misrulers who control us.
I'm sure you noticed that, that several number of times, does he really think that they are capable of being changed and changing their tune?
He can't be that.
I don't know.
He may have felt that it was impertinent.
It is impertinent to go to another country, to tell people another country what to do.
But I think he should have.
He should have made these points that we're talking about before the break and told the American people what's happening to them.
There were a lot of things he could have said that I don't think, no, that he knows how to say them because he isn't an American and he doesn't know what's going on here.
But, you know, again, who am I to critique who's risen to be the state of one-sixth of the world?
But there are things I would have done that would have, I think, with efforts to appeal to people, especially people like us, who are usually called right-wing extremists and conservatives.
I don't feel I'm a conservative or right-wing extremist at all.
I feel I'm a moderate.
But anyway, people like us, people, dissidents, people who see the truth instead of believing what they're told.
There are things he could have said.
Here's one of them.
Schuma, Chuck Schuma, senator of New York.
By the way, there was an amazing thing.
Someone got a tape of Schumer speaking to a Jewish organization in which he said, y'all may have heard it, it needs to be distributed widely, that every single decision he makes as a senator and elsewhere is dictated by his loyalty to the Jewish community.
No kidding.
That's all that he cared about.
He told the truth for watching his lives.
Every single decision is made with reference to how it will affect the Jewish people.
And you know, and I got to say this, Sam, that is how every single white person in the world should base their decisions on.
Not by principle.
All the principles are good, but is it good for our people?
Exactly.
Exactly.
Sabos Popoli Lex Suprema, as the Romans said, the health of the people is the supreme law.
That's the first law.
Is it good for our people?
But anyway, having said that, two days ago, Schumer was in the news gloating over the passage by the U.S. Senate of this aid bill, the $200 billion aid bill, not merely to Ukraine, but also to Israel and to Taiwan.
This is just breathtaking.
America is a country in decline.
Our roads are full of potholes.
The bridges are falling down.
We have a $30 trillion debt.
We can't get people to join the army.
We couldn't field more than 140,000 soldiers when we invaded Afghanistan and Iraq, even pulling up the National Guard and the reserves.
We have 800,000 people, aliens, invaded our country in one month, last month.
And America is going to take on 200 million Russians with this aid package, 1 billion Arabs and Muslims with this aid package, and 1.5 billion Chinese with this aid package to Russia, Israel, and Taiwan.
Well, you did the math on this, Sam.
You did the math on this.
The entire world.
The entire world is opposed to Israel now.
In the United Nations.
And opposed to the United States as a result.
Well, the United States stands alone, except for Israel.
We are opposed to the entire world in our support of Israel's brutal attacks on Gaza.
These people hate us.
And if I were a Palestine, I would hate the guts of Americans.
We have earned their hatred.
And mark my words.
I'm old and I will not be here much longer.
But mark my words, you young people, there will be a hell of a price to pay for this.
9-11, that wasn't even a dime little gesture at the beginning of the meal.
The bill for this kind of catering to this brutal, horrific campaign of Israel, the killing of 40,000 Palestinians, the burning of babies alive This is going to be tremendous.
At some point, and mark my words, these desperate people are going to find a way to get an atomic bomb.
And when they do, they're not going to detonate it in Israel because they live in that area themselves.
They're going to either take out Washington, D.C., or New York.
And that's going to be the price for this policy.
3,000 Americans died in the trade center because of these policies.
Millions will eventually die when these people manage to get their hands on a nuclear bomb and bring it to America.
Well, I got to ask you this: do dissidents like us get a reprieve or are we just lumped in with the rest of them?
Stay out of DC and New York City.
They can't.
And the unfortunate thing is, the righteous have to suffer with the wicked.
There you go.
You know, we are Americans.
Our country is pursuing these deeply immoral and wicked policies that are against the interests of our own people.
And people like the three of us and our listeners, we take our lumps.
I've taken plenty of lumps through my life for saying things like this.
I've had my properties attacked.
I've had death threats.
I've had people contact my clients to tell them they need to stop using me as their lawyer.
We've all been through this kind of stuff.
But nevertheless, when a Palestinian whose kids have been burned up with a bomb provided by Israel, Israel by the United States, he doesn't look at me or you and say, oh, that's Sam Dixon, the king Alexander or the Jane.
He's okay.
And that's what it was in World War II.
The people who genuinely hated the Nazis, they didn't look at the Germans.
Oh, that's Hans.
He really wants a democratic Germany.
We're not going to drop the bomb.
Our bombs on Dresden aren't going to kill his family.
No, that's not how it works.
But this is brutal reality that Americans don't seem to catch on to.
But moving, continuing, we're going to interfere with Taiwan and China.
As I said before, a responsible country, a decent country, a Christian country, does not foment hostilities between people like we did in Ukraine.
Nor do we go to a little place like Taiwan, which is historically part of China.
And the Chinese, for sound racial, linguistic, cultural, historical reasons, believe it's part of their country.
We agreed with them back in the 70s.
We've already taken the position that China has a legitimate claim on Taiwan.
And you don't tell these 10 million people, you don't go there and encourage them to adopt an anti-Chinese policy.
You don't tell them, look, look, you're like Hong Kong.
Hong Kong cut a deal.
They have some upfront autonomy.
You need to cut it back.
Sam Dixon, our guest.
Quick break.
Right back with it.
Stay tuned.
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When you're starting to look at the clock and it seems as though even two hours with a single guess isn't going to be enough, you know you're into something good, as Peter Noon would say, right, Keith?
That's right.
Herman's Hermann.
But I want to go quickly back to Sam on this.
He was breaking down the math from Chuck Schumer.
This aid package worth tens of billions of dollars that would go to Ukraine, Israel, and Taiwan.
I actually saw some interesting and some funny memes that put Ukraine, Israel, Taiwan on the border with Mexico, and they said maybe now they'll fund it.
But we were actually talking with Steve King about this two weeks ago on the program.
He said it's dead on arrival in the House, but you know, who knows?
We'll see.
Well, they're down to one person now because of the stupidity of the Republican Party and selecting a candidate to replace George Santos.
So it's a wiser-than margin.
There you go.
That's that's a great observation, Keith.
Well, anyway, Sam has crunched the numbers on this to it down to what it would cost the average American.
And Sam, back to you on that.
The aid package is $20 billion.
There are 310 million Americans.
When you divide 200 billion by 310 million, the average every single American in this country, the baby to 102-year-old people in old folks' homes, and everything in between, it's $700 per person in this one giveaway to Chuck Schumer's community.
If you have a family of four, James Edwards has a family of five.
For the James Edwards family, the price tag on Chuck Schumer's generosity to the community and to these war and to the military industrial complex comes to $3,500.
That's the price tag on this one thing of the whole Cheney, Bush, Schumer, John McCain structure of warmongering and interfering and picking sites all over the world.
How many American families of four?
You have an average, average Joe working in a plant, if we have any left in the Midwest, can afford $2,800.
The average American family has what a $50,000 a year income.
One blow, Schumer has taken 5% of their entire income and spent it around the world to create enemies for the United States.
And he hadn't finished yet.
And I can tell you, Sam, this is in a day and age with rampant inflation and where it costs, you said family of five, family of five goes to McDonald's, $50 to $60.
McDonald's, the lowest end of the fast food chains, $50 for a million hungry three hours later.
Yeah, I mean, why, I'm happy now, as you pointed out, there is some movement among the general American people against this, among our constituency, our demographic element.
You know, 30, 40, 50 years ago, that wouldn't have happened.
But I think there is a radicalization of our people as it begins to dawn on them that this, the ruling element in America, hates us.
Well, look, if you had a plebiscite, Sam, on any of these issues, like, you know, spending 200 billion in this aid package and whatnot, they would have been voted down ever since the Kennedy administration.
But again, what the people want doesn't count.
We have a ruling elite that is basically anti-American, and they show it in a multitude of ways.
And this is one of them.
Yet, Hope Springs, gentlemen.
And then in our third hour, we're going to give you some more reasons for long-term hope.
And that's coming up in the third hour.
But, Sam, back to you.
Well, there are many things.
And I know you've got many things that you want to touch on.
And you are the host and the boss man.
But every kind of accusation imaginable against Russia is embraced by this wretched media and the government it serves.
We all heard in the last couple of days about this guy, Navalny, who died in a prison in Russia.
And all kinds of speculation.
Oh, Putin killed him.
Putin killed him.
Putin killed him.
The first basis, the first principle of any criminal investigation is qui bono.
Who benefited?
What kind of benefit would Putin get from killing this obscure person who's been convicted for corruption and fraud in Russia and is in jail?
But what would he get out of that?
There were two people in Britain that had been spies against Russia and defected to Britain.
And they say they were killed by nuclear pellets.
And the American media, Western media, and the governments have proclaimed that Putin killed them.
Why would Putin kill these two traitors, these nobodies, who are living in exile in Britain?
Who would benefit from that?
Qui bono.
Who benefits?
It's the CIA, Liz Cheney, Dick Cheney, the Bushes, the whole, the Bidens, the Mary Louise Kelly's, the Anderson Coopers, the whole rotten warmongering element that rules America.
They would benefit from the death of those spies.
But when you look at Americans, you should look at yourself first before you judge others.
Just look at how they played the suicide of Epstein and how they ridiculed anybody like the three of us in our audience who said that sure was a suspicious suicide.
But they immediately, oh, that's conspiracy theory.
It's a conspiracy.
But they like those conspiracy theories when they just pull this rabbit out of a hat and announced that Putin has killed this nobody in jail.
They don't entertain any kind of charge against him.
And beyond that, the big thing, all the Russia gate stuff about Trump and how Russia is trying to influence our elections.
Every year, the American Congress votes to appropriate money for various CIA fronts.
Huge sums of money, billions of dollars are appropriated for groups, government agencies, the express purpose of which is to interfere. with the politics of nations all over the globe, including Russia.
We were funding anti-government agencies and groups, the NGOs in Russia.
You may remember, Putin passed the law.
You can't bring foreign money into Russia to fund these anti-Russian groups and these political attributes.
And what happened?
Senator John McCain, the post-savoy of the warmongers, he angrily said that for Russia to deny America its right to interfere in Russian elections was an act of war.
Cacus Bella.
Well, he apparently thinks that CIA apparently thinks that they have the right to choose the leaders for every other nation in the world, which is in Ukraine.
And that's a big part of the problem now.
Now, Sam, I got to ask you this.
I want to get back very quickly.
We're running out of time even after half the show.
I want to ask your reaction to this from Pastor Chuck Baldwin, friend of ours, been on the show recently, as recent as December.
He wrote this about, this was his take on the Putin Carlson interview.
And I'd like to get your reaction before the break, which is only about three minutes away.
Chuck Baldwin writes, by sitting down and having a prolonged, meaningful, televised, face-to-face discussion with Russian President Vladimir Putin, Tucker Carlson likely delayed global nuclear war.
Of course, the War Party in D.C. and its lackeys in the mainstream media are crucifying Tucker to no end.
Tucker Carlson did the unthinkable.
He conducted a televised interview with the second most powerful leader in the world without the controls and restraints of the deep state.
He went off the reservation.
He allowed Mr. Putin to talk freely and directly to the American people, who you said, Sam, earlier, that is exactly who he was talking to.
And the War Party guardians of discourse were helpless to stop it, Chuck Baldwin continues.
It has been decades since the majority of American people have been able to hear or see unfettered, unrestrained, uncontrolled, unscripted, truthful news reporting.
Decades, Tucker Carlson tore down the media's iron curtain.
Back to that and back to you, Sam.
Well, I think he's absolutely right.
The shamelessness of these journalists in America, somebody with the American Free Press that you advertise, coined a word I like, the prostitutes.
They should be called prostitutes, not journalists.
They're denouncing Carlson.
This isn't the first time that they have denounced Carlson by far.
But you remember, he also interviewed President Orban of Hungary.
Yes, he did very recently.
All over America, the New York Times, NPR, the Washington Post, Atlanta Journal, all these newspapers and radios and televisions and so forth said that they all say the same thing.
It's almost like somebody is scripting them all.
I'm not a conspiratorial of mine.
I don't think that's happening.
They're just aping the flagships of American journalism.
The little mantra they had was, Tucker Carlson's interviewing Orban proves that he is not a real journalist.
Imagine thinking about it.
That's news speak.
That's Orwellian news speak in the purest form.
They're all admitting.
They're all admitting they will only hear one side.
And it's so startling.
I'm a masochist, I guess.
I listen almost every day to all things considered on National Public Radio.
And they are now the liberal.
When I was a kid in college, the liberals were against the, the leftists were against the military-industrial complex.
I was too.
I was against the war.
Not because I loved the communists, but because I was an isolationist.
And that was a very lonely position.
All the other ROTC cadets were all for the war.
The other young republics were all for the war.
And I was against it.
And the people who were fought against the war were all in love with the communists.
It's not an easy kind of subject to deal with when I was a college student.
But at least back then, the Citizens of the Democratic Society and the leftists, they would talk about the military-industrial complex.
Now, they are utterly in love with the Pentagon, the CIA, the Cheneys.
They love Liz Cheney.
Afredo Pareto, right, Keith?
That's right.
Afredo Pareto.
Yeah, it means one thing when it starts saying it.
It means something else when you say it.
When I look at Liz Cheney, the wheelchair stretching to the horizon, all the guys whose legs are blown off so she and Daddy Dick can make money.
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James Edwards, Keith Alexander, Sam Dixon, continuing to talk about the Tucker Carlson interview with Vladimir Putin, but much larger than that, Russia, the United States, and so many other things.
Sam has already responded this hour to comments from Paul Craig Roberts and Chuck Baldwin.
Here's one from Ron Paul.
We'll get Sam's take on this.
Ron Paul writes, There's been much written and said about Tucker Carlson's interview with Russian President Vladimir Putin last week.
As of this writing, the video on Twitter alone has been viewed nearly 200 million times, making it likely the most viewed news event in history.
To me, Ron Paul writes, however, perhaps the most interesting aspect of the Tucker Carlson interview with Putin was the U.S. mainstream media reaction.
As Putin himself said during the interview, quote, in the world of propaganda, it is very difficult to beat the United States, end quote.
Even a casual look at the U.S. mainstream media's reporting before and after the interview would show how correct he is about that.
In the days and weeks before the interview, U.S. media was filled with stories about how horrible it was that Tucker Carlson was interviewing the Russian president.
There was danger.
They all said that Putin might spread quote unquote disinformation.
And Keith, you even mentioned how hard it has been for Tucker to even get back to the United States after he cannot go through Europe.
He either has to fly to Istanbul and come back or to Dubai and come back.
And this is the same thing.
Well, Sam, to you on this, I mean, what was interesting to me was there were so many media entities, so many media reporters, the controlled media, establishment media, mainstream media, whatever you want to call them, who were lambashing Tucker for interviewing.
But they said, well, we wanted to interview him too.
He wouldn't take our interview.
So I don't know which side of it it was, that they wanted to interview him and couldn't, or that he did and didn't do what they would have done, which was tout the party line.
But your reaction to Ron Paul's comment.
Well, I can say that on this issue, Ron Paul and I are obviously ditto heads.
We've said exactly the same thing that the, you know, it's just remarkable.
There were even proposals that Tucker be Carlson be stripped of his citizenship.
Yeah.
I think Bill Crystal was at a head of the pack on that.
Bill Crystal, before the interview, was a Jewish new conversation.
The conservative and National Review, former National Review contributor, Bill Crystal.
Exactly.
The action is in the reaction.
These people expose themselves, what they are.
But I get so irritated with my fellow Americans.
This stuff is so obvious.
It's so in your faith.
And they can't see it.
I was saying that I listened to National Public Radio as all things considered under the odious Mary Louise Kelly, who I find especially self-righteous and self-reverential and pig-headed and narrow-minded.
Everything you look for in a woman, right?
Yeah, I mean, she's really, she is really the pits as a journalist.
But in the civil war in Syria, which we've kept going now for 10 years, we've destroyed Syria, which of course helps Israel because Syria has been removed now as a military power that might give some help to the Arabs in the event of a war with Israel, the periodic wars that Israel wages against its neighbors.
But my guess is that over a period of 10 years, Mary Louise Kelly had at least 500 interviews with people in Syria.
And I heard only one with anybody that was supporting Assad.
Now, you know, the Assad has to have many people in Syria who support him.
By the way, the Christian community in Syria, which is about one-eighth of the country, are his strongest supporters because he has protected the Christian community from persecution.
But anyway, you never hear these people.
It's always somebody.
We're going to call him Mohammed because we can't use his real name because Assad is so bad.
He might hurt the family or something.
They're always Muhammad with the Free Syrian army.
It's always a critic.
One time she interviewed an official of Assad's government.
It was just like you were saying, what you or Rand Paul was saying.
The guy could hardly get a word in edgewise.
Every question was just gripping with hate.
Every question was very one-sided.
When he would try to answer them, she'd just interrupt and overrule him and correct him.
Oh, no.
Assad is killing children.
Oh, no.
Blah, She would never let him get his point at all.
And she did the same thing.
And she's done the same thing in Ukraine.
Earlier on, every day they'd have an interview with somebody in Ukraine, usually a woman, usually with a baby, and they literally would play soap opera music in the background.
They get the baby crying that you hear on younger than restless.
Yeah, and not once has Mary Louise Kelly ever interviewed anybody in Russia that supports Putin or anybody in Ukraine, nobody in the Crimea, which is ethnically Russian, or in the Donbass region, who wants their area to remain Russia.
They've never been given a minute, a second, on national public radio.
It's only one side is ever presented on national radio.
They talk all the time about diversity.
There is zero diversity of opinion, okay?
Now we're talking.
I don't think there's a single Republican that works on national public radio nationwide, even a Mitt Romney Cheney Republican.
It's the left wing of the Democratic Party funded with our tax dollars.
They feel they have a sheet.
Mary Louise Kelly feels she's got a right to put her hand in your wallet and take your money and exclude any point of view but her own and run a run a 24-7 propaganda agency nationwide.
But the American people, you'd think there'd be some embarrassment by Mary Louise Kelly about the imbalance, that she might be afraid that people might catch on.
They're just what how what a prostitute she is.
But she's not not concerned.
And quite frankly, obviously she's right.
Nobody seems to catch it.
Sam, this is Keith.
We have something from Alexander Dugan we'd like you to respond to if we could.
Well, I mean, I think what Keith's asking, did you read Alexander Dugan's comments about the Carlson Putin interview?
No, someone has sent them things, but I have not read them yet.
Okay.
We'll get to it later.
Continue on with your thought.
Well, I don't know what he said.
In general, I think he is somewhat of a Russian mystic.
Well, what he thinks is that basically, well, Keith, you have read it, Keith.
I have read it.
I'm like Sam.
I haven't read it either.
I've seen it, but I haven't read it.
Well, he thinks that, again, like two of the other people that we, you know, have commented about, Paul Craig Roberts and Ron Paul, that he has delayed the potential of a.
But basically what he was saying is that he thinks that this is an attempt to— There's much hope to be gained from this type of dialogue, and he hopes it continues, uh on, and he sees it as a plus uh, both for Russia and for America.
That is interesting, because that is now three people of you know, fairly well renowned, who are saying that this delayed a nuclear conflict.
Do you put that much Emphasis on it?
Sam?
Yeah, I think obviously anything where Russia can or Assad can speak directly to the American people, all that's healthy.
And genuine journalists and generally thoughtful people want to know what the other side does.
As a lawyer, you can't go into a courtroom unless you know what the other side's point of view is.
But the way America is run, the way the gung-ho, you know, back our boys, let's go to war, fight for democracy, make the world safe for democracy, that type of American, they're happy to have a situation where the other side has never heard.
But yeah, you've got to have to hear the other side.
And it's very, very useful.
I don't think it'll prevent a war, but it's certainly useful.
It could be useful.
Well, I think what they're trying to say is that they feel like Putin and any other adversaries of the United States basically are despairing of getting any type of fair treatment and being allowed to state their position.
And that by doing this, Carlson has basically given them some hope that there is a way to basically get their viewpoint across.
Well, I think this is key, gentlemen, is that the calls for Tucker Carlson to be sanctioned, to be taken.
You know, he was already fired from Fox News.
He was the most popular cable news host in television history.
He lost his position.
Now he's got an audience even bigger than what he had with Fox.
And that, Sam, I mean, goes back to what you've said so many times before.
I mean, in the 50s and 60s, we were reduced to putting flyers on windshields.
And now through Twitter and social media, if you can operate there, the internet.
Thank you, Keith.
You can reach an audience even greater than that of the most coveted position on cable news.
But they're calling for him to be sanctioned, if not have his citizenship taken away by merely doing what?
What used to be called journalism, interviewing and reporting on people in the venue travel through Europe.
Good or bad?
One is doing the bidding of to you know, listen, I tell you the heroes are Tucker Carlson, Ed Snowden, and Julian Assange.
We've got to take a quick break.
We'll be right back.
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In Message 1, we said that Satan, the father of lies, John 8:44, gave the left evil spiritual power the more they use the lies.
The political left today is the beast.
Now, the Bible confirms that the dragon gave him the beast his power.
Revelation 13, 2.
The extra evil spiritual power that comes from the beast by their lying is what accounts for the string of the leftist criminals in the government that have never yet been prosecuted.
It also explains why American capitalists support communism in the 21st century.
Note one, that behavior of capitalists was predicted by Vladimir Lenin, a cell of the beast.
Note two, Henry Ford was a capitalist, and he would have never gone communist.
The difference between Ford and the present-day end-time capitalists is that Ford was born and educated in the kingdom of Christ, 19th century America, the New Jerusalem, Revelation 21.
An interview, a topic so important, we have to leave things on the table.
I'm looking at my notes right now, and there are going to be important things left on the table.
That's just the nature of the beast.
But there are questions that have come in from the audience that I want to get to as many as we can with Sam in the 10 minutes we have remaining.
So, Sam, we're going to have Keith start neighing like a goat after what, two minutes?
Two minutes.
We got to get to as many as these as we can.
You and Keith are both trained attorneys, trained in your used to holding court.
But we have to, I want to get to as many of these.
Some of these are very interesting, and I really want to hear your take on it, but it has to be brief.
Here's one: and this is something that I found interesting watching Putin and the narrative, they're fighting Nazis, so on and so forth.
I mean, what are we talking about here?
This is a question for you, Sam, from the audience.
The reliance by Putin on the defeat of Nazism as a justification for both past and present Russian government existence.
If you take away, the listener writes, the justification for the great patriotic war by pointing out that Stalin was just as much as responsible for World War II as anyone, and in fact had more blood on his hands, the blood of his own countrymen, then you remove the only thing that a patriotic Russian has to hang his hat on.
World War II victory parades are still a big deal in Russia to this day.
Just like the Jews, the listener writes, modern-day Russians have to see Nazis lurking behind everywhere just to justify their conduct.
Your reaction to that, Sam?
Well, I think we have to understand Putin's position politically.
Russia does have a degree of political freedom.
They do have the Duma, their parliament, and their various parties that are represented in the Duma, many of which are hostile to Putin.
Putin's base lies among patriotic Russians who are like the three of us and our audience.
The unfortunate thing is that that base is split into two groups that hate each other.
You know, these are the traditional Orthodox Russians, many of whom are monarchists, who hate the Soviet Union, who lost members of their family.
Their ancestors were killed by the Soviet Union.
And they're a big chunk of the country.
The Orthodox Church is the greatest state church in the world.
It's the only state religion that decided it's absolutely.
I belong to the Presbyterian Church, the Church of Scotland.
I tell other Presbyterians that we belong to the Church of anti-Scotland because our church hates the Scottish people in Scotland and in America.
The clergy does work 24-7 to destroy us.
But the Russian Orthodox Church is not like that.
The other wing, the other part of the base that Putin has politically consists of what they call national Bolsheviks.
And these are people who still believe in the propaganda.
They still believe that Comrade Stalin extended the borders of Russia to their greatest extent in the history of the country.
And they're very much wrought up over the war.
They believed it was the great, as they call it in Russian, the great patriotic war.
And so he has to try to keep these two sets of people under the same umbrella.
And this is not an unusual problem.
Le Pen had the same problem in France.
And perhaps his greatest political achievement was that he was the first person since World War II to be able to get the Gaullists, the decent elements that had fought the Germans, the patriotic Frenchmen who had supported the Free French, under the same umbrella with the people who had supported Peter and Vichy and collaborated.
These two groups were both patriotic.
They shared similar opinions on the issues of the day, like immigration, but they hated each other.
They spent five years killing each other.
And so Putin has a real problem in terms of just practical politics that he has to do that.
Let's pause right there because that leads in, I think, expertly, almost supernaturally, to the next question, which I think is a build upon of what you were just talking about, Sam.
Listener writes, people ignore the fact that Ukrainians really, really do not like the current central government of Russia because of the conduct of the USSR government, to wit, three distinct Holmodors dating back to the Russian Civil War and the subsequent conquest of the newly created country of Ukraine, which was set up under the terms of a treaty which Lenin signed to stop the war with Germany in World War I.
The three Holmadors were in the 1920s, the famous one from 1930 to 1932, and a subsequent one after World War II.
Our listener continues: Ukrainian resistance was not finally suppressed until the mid-1950s.
I cannot tell you, he writes, how many German accounts I have read of the liberation of prisons in the Ukraine, only to find them full of freshly tortured and murdered corpses of men and women who were deemed to be enemies of the USSR.
And since the many of the men of the security organs who carried out the torture and executions were Jewish, the local Ukrainians took out their vengeance on them.
Martin Armstrong, I'm not familiar with this gentleman, of Armstrong Economics, who does extensive business in the area, says that even today, he cannot place Ukrainian and Russian employees in the same room together without a fight breaking out, Sam.
Yes.
It's unfortunate.
Putin is partly right that Ukraine was part of Russia.
Russia liberated Ukraine.
It means in Russia Ukraine.
It means at the border, at the frontier.
And Russia pushed the Turks out.
And the first capital of Russia was in Kiev.
But there has been this effort to create this hostility between Ukrainians and Russians.
And it dates back, as Putin said, to the strategies of Austria-Hungary to try to drive a wedge of division.
They speak a somewhat different form of Russian than Russia.
They're mutually understandable.
And then the Germans set up an independent Ukraine with the Treaty of Brestlatovsk when they made their separate treaty with the communists.
But yeah, there is a massive effort now to stir up Ukrainian hatred of Russia, which is not what was done before, before America is like Bush going there and urging Ukrainians to stay in the Soviet Union.
The previous policies in America were never to embrace Ukrainian nationalism.
Now that Russia has returned to the old Russia, we are fanning the flames of hatred in Ukraine and in the most shameless way of claiming that the de-kolakization, the collectivization of agriculture was done by Russians in order to crush Ukrainians.
The people who implemented that were not Russians.
They were not Ukrainians.
The unspoken issue.
The unspeakable truth is.
Key salivating over here.
Keith is salivating.
Yeah, the same newspaper, the New York Times, that lied to the American people about the terrible Holomodor and said there was no famine in the Soviet Union.
That same newspaper now claims, oh, the Russians did all these awful things to the Ukrainians.
They don't have a problem with identifying a nationalist, national group, an ethnic group to blame, but don't blame their ethnic group that actually carried this stuff out.
And also, the collectivization wasn't confined to Ukraine.
It went on throughout the whole country, and millions of Russians also died of hunger.
You never hear that in the quote American end quote media.
Well, how about this?
One more question from a historical perspective.
Two hours not enough.
I mean, we could have gone three and still left things on the table.
Listener writes, you need to ask Sam about Putin's distorted and self-serving views on the history of the USSR and the world from 1917 until its fall.
The listener writes, I was astounded to hear Putin claim the Poles collaborated with Germany in World War II, completely ignoring Stalin's invasion of Poland two weeks after the German invasion.
Sam, a final word to you.
We've got a minute remaining.
Well, you know, different people see things differently.
And Putin was, he grew up under the Soviet government.
His parents did illegally baptize him and named him for Russians' patron Saint Vladimir.
But, you know, he's got a big chunk of his people that believe this stuff, and he has to go along to them.
I would love to give him a dose of sodium telethol and ask him if he thinks better for Russia to ask him if he thinks it would have been better for Russia for the whites to have won the civil war.
That would be very interesting.
And real quickly, if I've got time, one of the most interesting things when I was there in 2018 was going to the Russian Military Museum in Moscow, where for the first time ever, I saw the white Russians, who were the ones that fought with Admiral Kolchak against Lenin's army, were given respectful treatment in the museum.
And the museum exhibits identified the non-Russian original names of the head communists in parentheses after the Russian names.
No wonder America hates Russia.
You're here.
Hey, folks, I'm glad he brought it up again.
Go to thepoliticalcesspool.org.
Go to the broadcast archives.
Do a search query for Sam Dixon.
Go back to August and September of 2018.
You will hear not one, but two hours, two full hours, just on the reflections and observations of his trip to Russia.
He spent a month there in 2018.
It wasn't that long ago.
And it got a lot of attention at the time.
If you go back, you're a new listener, you tuned in in the last five years, you'll want to go back and listen to that.
Sam, two hours tonight, my friend.
What a fantastic discussion.
What do you think about it, Keith?
I tell you what, two hours well spent.
Couldn't have done it better.
Thank you for giving us the time.
Dasvidanya Slavorusi, Gorja Tsariakane.
Glory to Russia.
God save the Tsar.
Amen.
And I tell you this.
Well, I'll ask Keith.
Keith, who's the world leader of your choice?
Well, Putin over Biden for sure.
Well, we'll be back with more of the third hour.
We'll clean up this.
There's no cleanup to be done.
I mean, this was a fantastically executed two hours.
But this is cold.
Hey, good night.
Love you, Sam.
Talk to you soon.
And we got more reasons for hope long term.
It's all coming up at the third and final hour with yours truly, Keith Alexander.