July 22, 2023 - The Political Cesspool - James Edwards
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You're listening to the Liberty News Radio Network, and this is the political cesspool.
The political cesspool, known across the South and worldwide as the South's foremost populist conservative radio program.
And here to guide you through the murky waters of the political cesspool is your host, James Edwards.
Well, it's great to be back with you tonight as we get back to business as usual after two weeks of travel and special events and quasi-party shows.
You just heard from John Friend of the American Free Press and the Barnes Review coming up later still.
Columnist Jose Nino of Big League Politics is going to be talking about the growing backlash against wokeism, the reaction to country music superstar Jason Aldean's latest hit.
But first, or I should say, but now is right in the middle of it all, right in the middle of all the action.
The star of the show.
Really?
I think he's a guy who is sort of an unofficial producer of the program or at least a writer because we mention inside his work in just about every single day.
An imitation is the sincerest form of flattery.
Well, if it is, feel flattered, Brad.
Brad Griffin, editor-in-chief of Occidental Descent, really a brother of mine.
We're same age, same season of life.
And he's back tonight to talk about the many arrests of Donald Trump, the death of liberal conservatism, and how radically charged the political climate is becoming and what opportunities could come as a result of this growing radicalization.
But first, let's say hello to him.
Brad, how are you?
Hey, thanks for having me, guys.
Always great to have you back on.
Why don't we just jump into it, man?
I got it right here.
What do you think about Donald Trump?
What is the end game for this?
What is the purpose of it?
And how do you think this is going to play out in the election?
I'm going to read actually from Brad himself right here and get him to answer your question, Keith, and comment on his own take.
But this is it.
What Brad writes at Occidental Descent, the former president and the leading candidate for the Republican nomination is about to be indicted and arrested by his rival for the third time in less than six months.
So we see things are moving at a face faster than ever before.
If there's going to be a crackup of the system, Brad, you're right.
We could be closer to it now than at any point in certainly generations.
And we really haven't seen anything like this before.
I mean, you have to go back to Abraham Lincoln before you had a president that was locking up political rights.
Woodrow Wilson.
You know, he had Eugene Debs.
Yeah.
I brought him up.
Are and how the stakes have increased dramatically.
So for Trump, this isn't 2016 or even 2020.
He's facing several lifetimes in prison.
And here's what you write, Brad.
Being indicted and arrested twice, likely two or three more times still to come.
Biggest land war in Europe since World War II has broken out.
It could spiral out of control at any moment.
Normans have radicalized over the course of the last three years under Joe Biden than we could have ever done with our collective.
More people expect a civil war now to happen in their lifetimes than ever before.
The polarization is off the charts.
Where are we going?
We're the beneficiaries, and we're basically just along for the ride.
You know, the left is driving the wagon.
Yeah, I mean, I sat there the other day and I was turning it over in my mind.
It's like, you know, it's for me at least, it's been like just a slow, slow-moving, calm summer.
But then I have to remind myself, you know, at the same time, and even the news, the news that it was kind of news where the Trump was arrested the third time, first time, then the second time.
Now it's like, oh, he's being arrested again.
We're getting kind of used to it.
And I had to like, I sat there and I thought about it.
And I'm like, well, you know, things are getting like really extremely radical.
I mean, stuff that hasn't happened since, I mean, since really the war between the states, I mean, you could, like, Raskeech was saying there, we could cite Eugene Debs being arrested by Wilson.
But stuff that is just really radical moves and become normal.
And political crime is so combustible right now, and I just worry about it.
Well, it pretends a lot of different things.
One thing that it pretends is the end of trial by jury, you know, which has worked so well for most of American history.
Diversity has killed trial by jury.
Well, Keith, to your point, my friend, this is something, and this is an amazing thing.
And it's to Brad's point and to your point, Donald Trump said he didn't even appear in the Eugene Carroll situation in New York because he said there's no way he could get a fair trial there.
Now, this is a president of the United States saying there's no way I can get a fair trial in a diverse place like New York.
Of course, that observation leads to the question, why not secede?
Why do you notice that?
Let's get to that in just a moment.
I don't want to get too far ahead.
But Brad, I mean, you have written about this extensively, and we cite you all the time in terms of how and why the radicalization has occurred.
It is a totally different world than it was in 2015.
2015 is completely unrecognizable to the political landscape of 2023.
And right below the surface is the simmering.
I say the only thing keeping us together is a very tenuous economy, consumerism.
That's the only thing tying Americans together because you got two halves.
One side hates the other.
And you write, Brad, that the system is destabilizing.
It is losing its legitimacy.
The courts, elections themselves, government, people are poised for a revolutionary change.
Could you give us a little more reason as to why you believe that?
Well, I mean, we're at the point where, you know, people are losing faith in law enforcement, losing faith in the justice system.
I mean, and that's just like, you know, the latest thing, losing faith in the military as well.
Yeah.
And it's just, you know, it seems to be, it's not getting better.
It's getting worse.
This trend is totally in the direction of, you know, destabilization.
And if you just project it a few years forward, I mean, I mean, you can easily imagine right now, you know, it hasn't come to blows or anything because a lot of these people, they think, you know, oh, well, you know, Trump will just, remember, there were people who believed even after Biden was inaugurated that Trump was still president.
And they explained it away.
But, I mean, can you imagine like next year, like, if he's actually, he's won the Republican nomination and he could possibly be president.
In theory, he could win that, he could win the White House and be sent to prison.
I mean, can you imagine how destabilizing that would be?
Well, that is Third World Banana Republic, you know, Par excellent.
But this is where we're at now.
And this is where you inevitably reach.
This is the terminus of a diverse society because it could only end this way.
I mean, it was inevitable that it would end this way.
It's going to end in an event.
Well, we'll get to that.
You wrote something that was absolutely poignant today, and we'll get to that in just a second.
But what's going to be the spark?
Because I am telling you right now, you've got many different nations comprised in two different blocks, the red block and the blue block, the red state, the blue states.
They are diametrically opposed.
There is no common ground whatsoever.
This isn't the war between the states where you still had a racially homogenous nation.
You had a lot of commonality.
There's nothing that these two groups have in common.
They both want to see the other one done in for.
And what's going to be the event?
What's the scenario that brings upon this climax?
Well, you just mentioned one.
You've got Blue State America arresting the president of Red State America.
He's been arrested twice, about to be a third time.
He's still going to get arrested in Georgia with Fonnie Willis.
So you got the scenario where Trump is convicted and incarcerated as he runs for president.
He's in prison before the 2024 election.
You got the situation that's being so mismanaged in the Ukraine and Russia.
Perhaps a nuclear war, an economic collapse.
It's one of these things that's going to play itself out.
The toothpaste isn't going to go back into the can.
And we can't say it's definitely going to happen in a few months, but you are writing that this could be the last peaceful summer we know.
I really do believe that.
I mean, I get a real sense of the fact that we're going to skip the column before the storm.
Let's skip this part and stick with Brad.
All right.
Yeah, go ahead, Brad.
He wasn't talking to you.
No, no, no, no.
I was talking to the producer.
I want to skip this commercial break because I don't want to end this conversation.
I think we're on to something here.
But you're writing, you wrote recently that this could be the last peaceful summer.
It feels like it's taking forever for the inevitable collapse to happen.
And by the way, and we say this all the time, don't go out and hasten it, everybody.
Don't go out and do something foolish and foolhardy.
Don't advocate for violence.
Like I said, we're along for the ride.
And quite frankly, the wagon has gone down the road.
Well, the system are under the mismanagement of their power by the left.
And the right wing could ever have made it.
Well, this is, yeah, I mean, the system is going to do itself in based upon the sheer absurdity and by the sheer force of gravity.
I mean, it's going to end in some inevitable conflict.
But go ahead.
People have been saying that for forever, for years, for at least once 20 years I've been around.
But it does feel different now.
I mean, and what's different about it is, like you said, I mean, when you got the leading candidate, the president of one party had in his Justice Department arrest his opposition.
I mean, yeah, people have been, I mean, that was just what's in the cards now just wasn't there in the 90s, I don't think, in the 2000s, or even like as late as 2015.
I mean, a huge number of people still trusted the media as late as 2015.
It just seems incredible now.
And even the justice system, the military.
I mean, even when Trump was president, things seemed far more stable back then.
But I mean, the way things are going, I mean, I really do think we could be on the brink.
Go ahead, Keith.
I'm normally cynical about these things.
Yeah, I'm a husband and a father, too.
I don't want to see my kids go through hardship, but I'm also a realist, Keith.
Well, we don't need to overestimate our strength even in Red State America.
Last Sunday was a perfect casing point.
We had Sam Bushman, you know, the head of our radio network here with his son-in-law.
And we went to one restaurant, an old-fashioned meet-and-three place in Midtown Memphis.
And later for the evening meal, we went to this place way out in the country outside of Hernando, Mississippi, to a catfish place.
And the difference was like night and day.
In the first one in Memphis, this was supposedly a working-class crowd.
There were plenty of women with blue hair, plenty of women with half of their head shaved, plenty of women with tattoos on their calves and thighs and stuff like this and body piercings.
It was, you know, it looked like San Francisco back in you understand there are going to be blue enclaves in red states.
Yeah, but then on the other hand, you go out to the country and it's like 1955.
That's right.
Well, there's a huge difference between rural and urban.
I mean, there's really no doubt about it.
And even you've got those college towns down there in Alabama, like Auburn and Tuscaloosa and where I'm at right now.
Yeah.
Well, this is another thing.
Speaking of Alabama, I don't want to get off track, but I do want to talk to you about the very interesting thing that Kay Ivey signed off on this week in reaction and in response to the Supreme Court ruling that they had to, I guess, make all the congressional districts skewed to where blacks would be.
We'll get to that in a second.
But you touched on something a moment ago, Brad, that I think is important because it is true.
It's just like every heavyweight boxing match.
It's the fight of the century.
Every fight is the fight of the century.
And since the 1970s, people have been saying this is as bad as it's going to get.
It's about to collapse any minute.
But it is, it really is different this time.
And it is different this time because, well, for so many reasons, but the polarization has never been to the extent it is now.
Just the sheer demographics, the racial animosity.
You write it right here.
It's difficult.
I'm reading now from Occidental Descent, as I do every show, ladies and gentlemen, at least in part, at least at some point.
Reading the words of Brad Griffin here, it is difficult to exaggerate.
You're right, Brad, how radical and unprecedented a move this is.
You're talking about the multiple arrests.
And remember, he was in Pizza Pout five or six times before that of Donald Trump.
Even though it feels like nothing is happening, we are much further down the road to the inevitable crisis.
It sometimes is frustrating because history doesn't happen on our preferred timetable, but this is it.
I mean, in America, it's going to be no different.
I mean, you had the Soviet Union.
Nobody thought during their time there that it would ever end.
And then it did.
You had the Muslim occupation of Spain for hundreds of years.
I don't think it's going to change.
They had any idea that things are going to play themselves out as quickly as they did in the late 80s and early 90s.
But you had to do it.
Look at this now.
I mean, we're feeling now it's just inevitable.
It's like you're in Pompeii and you're seeing Vesuvius, all the smoke.
Well, I'll give you an even better example.
2026 will be the 250-year anniversary of America, 1776 to 2026.
Well, that's about as long as the Aztec Empire made it.
And a couple of years before the Aztec Empire ended, I mean, they were on top.
They were subjugating, enslaving, sacrificing every tribe within their grasp.
And nobody, I'm sure, those other tribes would have ever thought they would have been.
And then here comes Cortez with about 500 Spaniards and they took down an empire of millions.
So it can change very gradually and then all at once, right, Brad?
Yeah, I mean, like I said, it feels, you know, it feels calm.
Well, actually, nothing here is all sudden getting ripped up, like it's storming.
It's about to start pouring.
Here it was calm a few minutes ago.
It's a perfect analogy, right?
But I mean, I just take the things, I just tick off the things in my head.
Like, it's not, Trump isn't facing just one of these cases.
It's like at least, what, three now?
Uh, possibly four or five.
Imagine he wins like two or three of them.
That's still like, you know, he's still in jail for the rest of his life if they have their way.
They only have to win once.
He has to win all of them.
And another thing is, is like, I mean, it seems boring because, you know, we've seen how it's before Trump versus Biden.
But the stakes for Trump personally are radically different.
In this election, I suppose, 2016, 2020, he could be going to prison for the rest of his life.
He could lose everything.
They could really like, and Trump himself has been radicalized for all the stuff that's happening.
Yeah, which just wasn't the case.
I do believe that.
Just wasn't the case in 2016.
I mean, they're going to take it.
I mean, they're actually, I think, going to do this.
Really winding up, find some way to prevent him from either taking assuming he wins, even assuming he wins, you know prevent him from taking office, or take him out in the Um primary.
I don't know what the exact uh schedule is with all these trials.
Well, they've scheduled all these trials to be smack dab in the middle of the primary.
And see Brad, the left is driving all of this.
They don't have to drive it like this.
If they can cheat in elections like they did in 2020, they could cheat again.
I was talking quietly, but instead they are doing everything they can to rub to help us.
It's actually helping us.
They are doing the job that we could never do and that is radicalizing our people in the best sense of the word.
I was talking with this about John Friend, the other day.
All they had to do in 2015 was just dismiss Trump as a blip on the radar and as an anomaly.
But because every single thing Trump did he could walk on water, he could have cured cancer, eradicated poverty, World Peace.
He was a racist Nazi anti-semite blah blah, white supremacist and people got numbed to it.
Every article ever written about Trump was the exact same stuff like that, but the left felt like they could not lose and when they lost to Trump, they pushed the panic button and threw everything and all they had to do.
All they had to do Keith And Brad and everyone listening is set on the ball and wait for the great replacement to run its course.
But they overreacted and the left, more than any of us, and even Trump himself I think he was an inadvertent savior in this regard brought about the radicalization of the base, and now it is leading towards something.
And Brad, it's interesting.
Am I talking to Brad?
I'm reading Brad's words to Brad.
Brad, you're right.
Trump's various arrests, the deep state attempts to take out Trump before the next election election, the sweetheart deal between the DOJ and Hunter Biden Uh, you conclude that it's just part of the process we have to go through that is destroying the legitimacy of the system in the eyes of a critical mass of people who are waking up to these issues.
And the left is saying, we're doing this, we know it's wrong and what the heck are you going to do about it?
But but they are playing with fire, and you right here as well, Brad.
We're at a stage now, or approaching a stage very nearly, and I don't think we're going to be able to sidestep it.
I think it's going to come to a resolution and a blow, one way or another, where the confidence in the system has collapsed.
Both sides see each other as mortal enemies in existential conflict, like in the south around 1859.
And you're right Brad, and you're right, this was unthinkable even four years ago.
We're sitting here now, in the current year 2023, even into Trump's first term, we could have never thought it would be here now like it is.
Well, I mean even.
I mean even as recently.
I mean, think about it, James Is Re Is Re even when Biden was being inaugurated and we went through uh, january 6th and all that.
Did anyone uh, did anyone at the time think that um, the Russia, Ukraine stuff would bowl over and NATO and Russia would be essentially at war within like two to within two years?
Did it did?
Was anyone that cynical?
Anyone thought?
Thought it would be that bad if uh Biden won in 2020?
And yet here we are.
In the closet is not Russia, it's China.
You know the right thing.
What about China?
That's that see, that's a whole nother thing.
Um, suppose it doesn't bowl over uh domestically um, one of these bureaucrats like Toria New on, is the one who comes foremost to mind.
Could you know, could easily set in motion a chain of events where this war uh, in Russia and Ukraine has been getting more and more serious, that hundreds of thousands of people died in this.
Um I, I just think you, I just think you know there's just so many things are so combustible, just both internationally and domestically, and there's so many different scenarios where I can see it just going off the flames.
And the whole Russia Ukraine thing is another example.
It could, it could, something could bowl over there and we could really be in a hot war with Russia.
I mean, people are not taking that seriously enough and People think and go into Taiwan that should be North Korea as a proxy to be the one that actually pushes the nuclear button on something and sit back and say our hands are clean and whatnot, Well, we're talking about all this.
If it's a bad thing, I am more hopeful that there will be an event that will give us at least an opportunity.
Now, I'm not sure that we'll come out on top, but we will have a chance that we haven't had before and that did not appear anywhere even on the radar of just a few years ago.
The question, James, keeps me is: do things ever get this serious, this dire, this bad, this close to the brink?
And do they reach this point, then all of a sudden just simmer down?
And there has to be a venting, there has to be some sort of a conflict, right?
Right.
That's that's that's the way it's going.
And we're going to be there in a few years, if not like next year.
And they can't leave this in our fate, though.
See, Brad, we can't do derby.
We're just innocent bystanders.
Well, they'll say whatever they want to say.
They'll blame it all on us, but there's no doubt about that.
They already are, and they have.
You know, I have to see provocateurs in all of this.
Well, we know that, but it doesn't matter.
I mean, the point is, we need there to be a resolution.
We need there to be a reckoning.
And we need to have a chance.
We haven't had a chance my whole lifetime.
I think that we are rapidly heading towards some sort of an event, and it could play out in many different ways sooner rather than later.
But yeah, I think you're right, Brad.
I don't think this whole thing just gets, you know, everybody just goes along to get along again.
And the whole thing from the attacking of the president, I mean, this Banana Republic stuff, you're arresting this guy over and over and over again now.
You had all the impeachments.
It's all trumped up.
You think Trump, even if he is, I don't think he is.
But even if he was criminally corrupt, he's the only criminally corrupt guy up in Washington.
I think Trump derangement syndrome is a real thing, and that's what we're seeing play out.
Well, in any event, though, something is these people are reckless.
And it's evident in the foreign policy as well.
Yeah, well, all right.
We do have to take this as a hard break.
We do have to take this one, but you can read all of this at occidentaldescent.com.
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Even when he's not posting, I'm there every day, waiting for him to post.
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Back with our friend Brad Griffin of OccidentalDescent.com.
And Brad writes that we are approaching the end times of this particular era.
And not even being subtle about it.
You're right, Brad, that we are seeing separate fires everywhere, smoke everywhere.
We seem to be sitting on top of a smoldering volcano, but it hasn't exploded yet.
But you think that it will very soon.
And you're not the only one, by the way.
We're going to talk about Neil Howell and Peter Turchin in just a moment.
Well, it's like this, James.
Let me just say this.
The left is saying, we're corrupt, we're crooked, and we're in charge.
We know we're being unjust.
What in the heck are you going to do about it?
Well, Brad puts it even more to the point in many ways.
And he says, let us count the ways.
Why are we rapidly approaching an event now that didn't exist 10 years ago, 20 years ago, 30 years ago?
People have been saying it's going to collapse.
The end is near forever, right?
But why now?
Here's what Brad writes.
It passed his prologue.
We're due for a major upheaval, which tends to happen every 75 to 80 years, roughly, in American history, which is the span of time between the American Revolution and the war between the states and the Great Depression and World War II, on and on and on.
The sheer radicalism of the social atmosphere and the paranoia and the deep distrust of government has reached a level now only seen a couple of times before in American history.
You had bad riots and bombings and assassinations in the late 60s, early 70s, but you still had voters who were primarily of the World War II generation.
They still trusted the system in a way that just isn't true anymore.
And with that greatest generation, the silent generation, they're now dead and dying.
No one alive today has experienced a major war, Brad.
You're right, which makes such a thing far more likely to happen.
And it goes on and on and on.
War itself is cyclical.
We're due for a major war, not a sideshow like the War on Terror.
People in charge of the Biden administration have already started a war, for God's sake.
Lack of trust in the institutions, government, courts, media, you name it, academia, churches.
As recently as 2005, there was still a trust for the system and the laws of the world.
Long march through the institutions has been collapsed.
But it's collapsed and on and on and on.
I mean, you write, you actually have about 20 bullet points here as to why the time may be near.
I just read about the first five or six.
Continue on on that thread, Brett.
Oh, I don't have it in front of me, but you know, I just was thinking, I was, you know, I was surprised to learn about the Neil Hoguck that he had a new book out.
And I heard about that Peter Churcham had a new book out.
So that was kind of, you know, just in the news last week.
And, you know, and I just sit there and I just spelled it out in front of me.
I was like, you know, I don't, things feel, you know, extremely boring to me.
You know, it's a slow summer.
There's having, you know, many riots.
Like the thing going on this weekend is whether people are going to see Barbie or Oppenheimer.
It seems pretty calm, but it's not.
And I pointed out there, like, first of all, you have the biggest land war in Europe since World War II, which is going on.
That's going on in the background.
Then you have the Trump arrest going on in the background.
So you can look at, you can look out.
You can look out and say, oh, there's fire over here, this one over here.
People absolutely hate.
I mean, Congress is holding hearings on the weaponization of government against conservatives, right?
That's kind of a political theater sideshow, but just the fact that that sentiment is mainstream.
People think this isn't like a fringe sentiment.
This isn't like the militias in the 90s.
There was a lot of that.
We had Oklahoma City bombing.
But these views are soaked in and are accepted by most people on the right today.
We saw that in that Michael Anton article today.
What I was going to say is that the left basically overplayed their hand when they said that we're going to make sexual perversity a civil rights issue.
I think the transgender issue has been a big overplay.
Well, see, what they do, they are showing people critical race theory.
It's now undeniable.
The left is evil.
The left intends to destroy you and your family.
And people are being, and you know, for example, they talk about if we got into a two-front nuclear war with China and Russia, we would surely, and North Korea, we would surely lose.
But there are crazy neocons out there like Jake Sullivan and Victoria Newland and others who are telling people that we can win a two-front nuclear war.
This is insanity.
Who is believing this, even on the left?
Well, I mean, this is, Brad, you're right about this.
Not a lot of people, because we're at a point now where huge, huge, you're talking about tens of millions of the voting public, huge swaths of the population have totally lost confidence.
And not just the media, which Trump did more to erode, and it was so necessary that it happened, the trust in the media that this country had.
But not just that, but the law enforcement, the military, the judicial system, not the strange love is in control.
You're right about how, I mean, an economic collapse.
A lot of people are trying to get off the dollar now.
We'll see where that goes.
But this is, I mean, basically, and I'm quoting you again here, Brad, the population has never been this prime for a major upheaval at any point in our lifetime or even the lifetime of our fathers, perhaps even our grandfathers.
The people are taking social stability for granted.
This isn't going to continue for a variety of reasons.
It wasn't ripe in the last several decades, but it is ripe now.
And we're building up to a climax.
Am I right about that?
You don't see any way this can be alleviated beyond some sort of assorting.
Sorting out.
No, I really do think it's building to a climax and I really do think it's gonna uh boil over.
And the thing is, the thing is, the amazing thing about it is, I mean, if you look at the late 60s, the early 70s, it was just chaos, with riots that dwarf anything we've seen today, bombings that you know, um dwarf any things we see today.
In the 70s um, what was i'm gonna say there?
Um, you had uh, the whole collapse of the Jim Crow system and stuff, and you have to ask yourself well, why didn't, if it think was going to bowl over, why didn't it bowl over back then?
And um, and it's just, i'll tell you, i'll answer that, i'll answer that people, even well, and they were comfortable, they were still comfortable.
I mean, this is it.
I mean you can, people are gonna have to suffer before they will do what they know they need to be there.
And while they were still bringing home the bacon, while they were still making a living, and you can't say well yeah, you should go out and martyr yourself and and never be able to make a living for your children and you know so on what happened in the last year, people have to suffer for it.
But when this economic, when the economy collapses and I think this might be what it is when the economy collapses, here you already have everybody primed mentally and physically and spiritually.
When the economy collapses, that's when you're going to see uh the, the cards, uh be reshuffled.
Because yeah look, I lived through the late 60s, early 70s.
That was a sorting out within the left, within the Democratic Party.
You had the hippies and the yippies at the Democratic National Convention in 68, but you also had mayor Daly and the police force cracking heads and even though the white people didn't like what was going on, the American dream was so alive and well, everybody was getting a house.
I mean the 50s and the 60s, the boom.
Oh yeah, in the late 60s it was the new left taking over.
They didn't like it, but they weren't gonna risk.
They weren't gonna risk everything.
Now I think they will risk once the, the bottom, falls out of the economy.
They have nothing left because they're already there.
The radical new left has totally taken over the Democratic Party.
So there's no dissension within their ranks whatsoever and they're going after the rest of America and telling, we're going to convert you to our viewpoint or we're going to kill you.
Yeah well, and and people are pushing back, and I think they're being backed far enough, and when they have to suffer a little bit, the cream will rise at the top.
Brad, we'll give you the final word, this segment, before the next break.
You write the present trends.
This is at Occidentaldescent.com and the most recent posting, as a matter of fact.
The present trends, you write Brad, of cultural disintegration, polarization and political instability cannot continue in the long term.
Once it reaches a certain threshold, instability devolves into conflict.
Conflict resolves polarization by vanquishing one side or the other and establishing a new normal.
Is that the future?
That's exactly the future, and and and I see it playing out within like next five, six years, and I think like, and I and I and you know, for different reasons, I just I mean, I i've seen a lot of people, not just church in or covet um, a lot of people.
You know there's a general consensus out there that we're headed for some kind of major conflict and then that's that's that's, that's gonna be, that's what's gonna resolve things.
Either one side or the other is gonna win and triumph and just suppress the other side, and that that's how it ends.
How does it end positively positively for the good guys, I mean into the balkanization.
I mean secession has been talked about more now than at any point in our lifetime, and by not just the usual suspect.
Do you see a balkanization of America and then we get a piece of it, or how does it end favorably for us, in your opinion, can it?
Well, it ends favorably.
Favorably for us if our side prevails in the conflict.
That's it.
Um yeah, that's one way.
There is yeah, there is uh.
And if it doesn't, then uh, I guess we'll just be like our ancestors for after the war.
But um Yeah, like I said, things don't ever get this bad, and you know, it just all of a sudden, you know, tapers down and everybody's friends again.
And you remember, just, I mean, going back to 2001, even though I have a very different opinion of the canon of 9-11, but there was a sort of a coming together after 9-11 where everybody was like in America, they're all waving the federal flag.
I don't realize we were lied to.
Well, I mean, I get that, but I'm just saying the difference between 20 years ago and now is like the difference between 20 centuries.
That'll never happen again.
That'll never happen again where everybody starts waving the flag because of the...
I don't know.
The only future is in separation if we're going to have a salvation.
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We're back with Brad Griffin, who has made his decision, ladies and gentlemen.
He has made a hard decision on which side of the fence he's going to fall on.
Is it going to be Barbie or Oppenheimer at 9 o'clock tonight, Brad?
The Oppenheimer.
You wanted to see it.
Jewish America will be proud of your choice.
No, no, no.
I love seeing movies.
I love seeing movies like that.
I want to go see it.
And yeah, Brad mentioned his wife.
We love Renee.
Brad is one of the very rare few who was able to move in, marry into Movement Royalty, the daughter of Gordon Baum, our longtime friend, and God rest his soul.
I remember when we first met him down there at one of those Council of Conservative Citizen annual meetings down in Nashville.
The CFCC had no shortage of fingerprints on the cultivation of this program.
Gordon, a longtime friend, regular guest, his wife, Linda, still a friend and supporter.
And Brad knocks down the scent as well.
Absolutely.
I mean, it's all in the family.
And Brad, speaking of that, it's got growing family.
Brad, about to welcome a new child into his equivalent.
We'll keep writing for sure.
We wait for you like we wait for the Oracle at Delphi to speak on the issues of the day.
He's certainly right about this.
We have seen, we're talking about the inevitable conflict, what may bring it on, but the fact that it will happen at some point.
In the very near future, and it's not like the people who said they were going to see it in the 70s.
In the 70s, you still had an almost all-white nation.
I mean, it just, I know it felt that way, but it really is going to happen.
It really is going to happen.
It's a changing of the guard of the old left to the new left.
Daly and his people could afford to buy a house, go to school.
Yeah, all of them.
The affordability of everything, the affordability of everything was just so radically different in the 70s.
Well, that's it.
I mean, people were too comfortable.
It was never going to happen.
Then people were too comfortable.
They're getting increasingly less comfortable now.
You can buy a new car for $2,300 back then.
I remember when I was in high school.
Can you imagine?
But in any event, the one good thing that has already happened as a result of what's coming is the death of liberal conservatism.
Now, we talked about this last week with Sam Bushman.
We went to Freedom Fest, which was a group of liberal conservatives, as I identify them as.
Libertarians, by the way.
They were libertarians, but they were also liberal conservatives.
And you write about this, about freedom conservatism.
That, you know, our solutions are liberty and the pursuit of happiness and prosperity.
And strict adherence to the Constitution.
All of this stuff, though, National Review, the Weekly Standard, I mean, that sort of conservatism that was the beep cop of conservatism as recently as the early 2000s, that's gone.
You're either hard left.
You're hard left or hard right now.
There's really no middle.
And that's a good thing because these guys sucked.
The paper, paper issues is not going to save you.
Yeah, imagine believing in the paper constitution after watching your leading presidential county get arrested three times and then the FBI try to, you know, spent years trying to take him out.
We've been over that a million times.
You know how that all played out.
But yeah, I mean, I was, I'll follow a writer named Damon Winker, and he had said something about that on his sub stack, this freedom, these Never Trump people were having their freedom conservative manifesto.
It was just all these, you know, all these old chestnuts and stuff and rhetoric from like the 80s and the 90s.
And even he said, you know, this is just so out of touch.
This is just so it was like, no one, no one cares about your principles.
They want to about your judgment.
I like being in a time.
And all that I link to it.
Right.
It was a good piece.
I'm reading from it right now.
Yeah, I mean, this is.
These people want to eat 2012 vibes.
You know, that seems even that's not, that's just a decade ago.
It seems like a lifetime ago.
Oh, yeah, you'll never get again.
The whole thing, the Mitt Romney, the John McCain, the Barack Obama, the Ben Shapiro.
I mean, you are either a pro-transgender, anti-white, anti-Christian zealot, or you're right-wing now.
And there's not, I mean, I did see some of the people who are the remnant of this principled conservatism, whatever you want to call it.
And it's a dying breed and in good riddance to that.
But you write, Brad, for nearly, and I met them at this conference last week, this Freedom Fest.
We were there and we were poking around, taking a look at it.
But you write for nearly two decades.
I'll send you a picture of some of the people I talked to.
It was pretty interesting.
But for nearly two decades, these people represented mainstream conservatism.
And we were the outsiders and the insurgents.
But today, conservative liberalism, and it's funny you mentioned that because I said it on the show last week, a few days before you printed this article, or you posted this article on Occidental Dissent.
I called them conservative liberals.
You write conservative liberalism was the hegemonic ideology of the right.
Today, it just sounds quaint.
Nobody cares about these people or the prince.
The first avatar of it was Mike Pence.
Mike Pence is terrible.
How can Indiana turn out both Dan Quayle and Mike Pence?
Well, this is the dumbest white men ever.
I got to say this.
I mean, you know, we got our start with, again, the royal we, Pat Buchanan.
It would have never happened had it been with anybody else.
Can you imagine if I said I got my start with Mike Pence, and that's how I got on the radio?
I got my start with Dan Quayle.
Well, yeah, right.
Dan Quill.
I got my start with Jack Kemp or Rick Santorum.
It just doesn't have that sort of, I mean, Buchanan is more idolized today than he was in any of his presidential runs.
You look, I mean, he was the one that, what, Keith?
Very quick.
He was the guy that broke through the iron curtain of the left and called things by their proper names.
As my wife's late grandfather said he'd call a spade a dirty shovel.
And we were talking about, we were reading Death of the West.
Death of the West, state of emergency, and a Republic non-excuse me, a death of the West, state of emergency.
That's the sign of a superpower.
Which, you know, two of the three he came on to talk about on TPC.
Now, the SBLC, the ADLR, I call them white nationalist screeds.
When he came on to promote them on this show, it was sort of like dumping a ton of TNT into a swimming pool of gasoline and seeing what happens.
I mean, nobody could believe that.
There was still an article this week still talking about an interview that Pat did on this show.
Yeah, that's right.
I showed that to him.
I sent you that.
We're getting off track.
But anyway, it took people like Sam Francis and Pat Buchanan to basically blow up the paradigm and make people understand just how weak the supposed conservatives are.
Establishment.
Yeah, right.
That's it.
And that's what Brad writes.
What good are your principles when the, you know, what good is the Constitution?
What good are principles?
Sense of fair play.
The left doesn't have that.
If you have a sense of fair play against a group that doesn't have it, you're going to lose every time.
And that's what conservatism has done since the day of R.L. Dabney.
But, Brad, you're right.
What good are your principles when the current president can simply have his political opponents arrested like in any third world country?
And that brings about what's the solution.
You know, I did meet at this conference last week a lot of secessionist movements, people from secessionist movements.
You know, in Texas, Brad, that the state GOP last year in Houston at the convention voted to put in secession to the platform.
You got, of course, what's going on in Idaho at a county government level.
This is serious stuff.
I mean, the counties are voting to leave Oregon and join Idaho.
This is different.
But I met somebody at this Freedom Fest thing last week from New Hampshire.
Secession is polling at 20% in New Hampshire and asked me, what are the issues for secession in New Hampshire?
He said, you know, the usual stuff, you know, out of control government, blah, blah, blah.
A lot of stuff we would agree on.
But it actually went to the state house floor in New Hampshire and 13 people voted for it.
13 members of the state house in New Hampshire.
So you got on a county level in, I didn't either until last week.
On a county level in Idaho.
You got the Cal Exit movement in California.
And you got on a state GOP level in Texas, the largest Republican Party in the country.
New Hampshire, it actually went for a vote.
Only 13 members of the state house voted for it.
But hey, that's a start.
And so I think that is going to be the future.
It's going to be, you're going to see a balkanization of America one way or another.
Hopefully the piece of blood.
Well, exactly the scenarios we've been talking about.
There's any number of things that could just, you know, push it over the edge.
You know, when people finally, you know, you know, lose confidence.
And even though it seems like a huge leap, even today, I mean, I can see people getting there.
Like, especially the most incredible thing about it, though, Brad, is this.
The left is driving all this.
It's like they're on a suicide mission.
Let's get Brad.
Kill themselves.
Go on, Brad.
No, I mean, oh, absolutely.
They're absolutely completely the ones who are driving it.
Even like, I mean, like, I don't even really care for Trump.
I don't really like Trump, but like, they're turning him into like this, like going after him the way they are.
I mean, I mean, they're doing this part of it because they think they have the best chance of beating Trump if they can get him hit with all these charges and strangle, you know, make him into a loser for independence so they can win.
I guess I think it's a good idea.
If they can't get him out any other way, they're going to assassinate him, I think.
Whatever it takes for our people to wake up, I mean, you know, none of us are going to live forever.
We've got to play a role.
But, hey, Brad, let me ask you this.
We've got about two minutes remaining.
I've got to go the full three hours with you tonight, brother, because, I mean, we always have so much to say.
But I want to talk specifically about two Alabama issues, one minute each.
Number one, your thoughts on the Jeff Sessions kerfuffle?
Not Jeff Sessions, but Tommy Tupperville, excuse me, Tommy Tupperville on white nationalists being American.
They got to walk back a little bit, but not all the way.
And then Kay Ivey, basically, the Supreme Court said you got to redraw your congressional maps.
And they said, okay, we will.
But it's still just 42% black.
All right, let's get bread.
He's the Alabamian.
Go, Brad.
You got two.
Yeah, yeah.
Real quick, I saw the Tuberville thing, and the thing that was shocking was that he was actually defending white nationalists instead of just saying, like, they're the worst things ever, you know, throw them all in.
I don't know.
He kind of like, you know, moderated his comments later, but just the fact that it made me wonder how bad the military recruitment situation is that he would, you know, say something like that.
And number two.
Let's go with these congressional districts.
Yeah, I'm wondering if that's going to say, I've not looked into it.
I wonder if that's going to affect my districts because, you know, I live in the black belt and we already have one majority black district that's carved out of Birmingham and West Alabama around Selma.
I'm wondering how they're going to have to do that.
How they've just drawn the map out of the middle.
It just gets down to this.
It's the National Republican Party has a very tenuous hold on the House.
And if you vote to create a majority black district, you're going to have a Democrat representing them.
So, you know, the whole Republican Party is having to come to terms with the fact that they are the party of white people.
But it was good that the Alabama state legislature basically said, we'll redraw them.
And they redrew them in a way that was still beneficial to their electorate.
All right.
I said, well, I'll have to look at the exact map.
I have been wondering how they're redrawing.
Are we losing a House seat this time, too?
I think we might.
Well, basically, it's not going to mean there's not going to be equity unless every congressperson out of Alabama is black.
I mean, that's, of course, what the media want.
Oh, yeah, even though it's a fast-majority white state.
But, Brad, we only scratched the surface tonight.
I can't believe it.
I mean, we're already out of time.
But you can follow his writing, and you should.
The best, he has no peer at occidentaldescent.com.
Brad, enjoy Oppenheimer.
I want to see your review because I want to go see it if I can ever get a babysitter, which is a tough one.