April 1, 2023 - The Political Cesspool - James Edwards
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You're listening to the Liberty News Radio Network, and this is the Political Cesspool.
The Political Cesspool, known across the South and worldwide as the South's foremost populist conservative radio program.
And here to guide you through the murky waters of the Political Cesspool is your host, James Edwards.
We are a Bandler brothers and native to the soil.
Right in their liberty with treasure blood and toil.
And when our rats were threatened, the cry rose near and far.
Hurrah for the Marlborough flag that bears a single star.
Hurrah, hurrah, we'll serve it back to rock.
Hurrah for the Maribel flag that bears a single star.
Welcome back, everybody.
Hour number two is now upon us.
We are live in South Carolina as we kick off Confederate History Month 2023.
I could come with you with a couple of clichés right now.
Pushovers get rolled.
If you don't stand for something, you'll fall for everything and anything.
And that's the thing, is it not Rick Tyler?
And by the way, anytime I'm at an event where Rick Tyler's at, I grab him and I say, you got to be on the show tonight because I always appreciate and value the commentary and the content and the perspective that you give us here.
And it's always so well-worded and powerful.
Well, it can always be guaranteed that an event that you are present at, doing a broadcast from, is going to be so rich with content and things to observe and analyze and render commentary on that it's really easy James.
Well, I don't know about all that, but I appreciate it and any event, it's just in order to be a good person.
In order to be a good, acceptable person in this degenerate society and culture of ours, you have to be nothing more or less than a cheerleader for the latest ideas of wokeism, and if you push back on it anyway, you're a hater, you're intolerant.
There's no place for you in this, in this country, and my god, I mean it's good.
People have to say no.
I've heard that put somewhere in recent months.
The most powerful word in the English language is no, and that's a word that our people are going to have to learn, and it's not done out of hatred or bitterness or jealousy or spite, but it has to be no.
No, we're not going to go along with this.
We are going to protect our families.
We wish you well, but you're not going to, we're not going to give you a voice, we're not going to accommodate your sickness in our, in any healthy society, and it should not be tolerated.
Well, I would go one step further and say we shouldn't wish them well, we are not to bid them godspeed.
The bible says.
And, of course, getting back to our roots and our foundation is what this is really all about, because the scripture says, woe unto them that call good evil and evil good, and you have to understand that there is a sadistic component and characteristic to these people that they're not happy enough to get you to accept their perversion.
Acceptance is not good enough.
They want you to actually endorse it, they want to force you to bow down at that altar, and until they get that, they will not be satisfied.
I feel though Rick, in a way, that it was necessary, when talking about the need for secession, to just highlight just a couple of the things that have happened in the last few days in this country that is spiraling towards oblivion.
There will be a balkanization here, there will be a breakup of of these United States one way or another, and where we land on the end of it all uh, we'll find out, but the fact that that's coming, uh is, is inevitable uh, and I don't want to spend more time than is necessary.
This program during Confederate History Month talking about all the heinous things that are happening in the world around us.
The primary focus of this month is to celebrate the good and decent people of the South, God's people in the South, and our Southern forebears.
What does Confederate History Month and your Confederate lineage mean to you, Rick?
Well, I have to be a little bit negative again because, James, I get extremely angry.
You tell us the truth.
I get extremely angry.
I get livid, in fact, with rage when I think about the unpunished crimes, the capital crimes that went on in the name of this country against our Confederate ancestors.
This is unfinished business as far as I'm concerned.
I believe that there's no statute of limitations on murder.
I believe that the mass murder that was perpetrated against our ancestors has to be redressed one way or another, and the truth must go forth.
It must go forth with resounding clarity.
Now, also, we need to be heartbroken for all of the devastated lives, not only then, you know, back in the era of that horrific travesty, but also today, the ongoing, continuing ripples in the pond that still emanate from the crimes that occurred under the so-called auspices of the Civil War.
Now, here at Dixie Republic, though, it's like stepping into a different dimension.
It is like stepping into something that is indescribable by today's terms.
Try, because if anybody can do it, you're one of those eloquent wordsmiths that has the talent and ability to do it.
What are the people who are not here tonight missing?
What do you feel when you're amongst your people in a setting such as this where everybody's safe and everybody is sharing in fellowship and camaraderie with one another in good spirits and under God's authority?
Well, the fellowship and camaraderie are so fantastic, but the foundation of truth, it is so prevalent here.
It's absolutely, you know, 360 degrees.
You walk through the doorway.
Well, really, even before you get there.
We hear in the commercials that it ends at the asphalt.
This is God's world ends at the asphalt.
And they say there are no strangers, just friends who haven't met yet.
And that's what you feel like.
This is your first time here.
Did you feel that?
Absolutely.
But I had been listening to your excellent rendition of what goes on here and had been savoring the opportunity to be here for an occasion such as this.
And now, finding out that there are going to be more events upcoming in May, for instance, I'm planning on making this a regular stop.
I brought my whole family, those that, you know, are under the roof, and everybody's loving it here today.
Again, it's like stepping into, well, like stepping through a time warp back into a bygone era.
And of course, you're completely surrounded and inundated here by iconography and by symbolism of the great Confederacy, books that resound with truth that are on the shelves, all kinds of decor that somebody can put in their home or in their business.
And it's all done so beautifully with such a great aesthetic that really, I mean, I can't think of a better store in the Babylonian corrupt world system that could even begin to hold a candle to what we see here.
Everything from the atmosphere to the ambiance, obviously we're doing a live broadcast right now, so the music's turned down, but they've got music, the lighting, everything about this store is just so welcoming.
Everything about this place and the people are so welcoming.
You really do feel like you're at home.
It has become, I told my wife we were driving back up.
This is my fifth or sixth time here.
This is my favorite place in the country right now.
I love this part of South Carolina.
I love the people.
I love everything about it.
Well, I love the fact that it's so conspicuous and it's so in a prominent, prevalent location right here in this beautiful area.
And that says to me that there is boldness, there is courage.
How big is that flag up on the flagpole?
Big.
I don't know the dimensions of it, but it is very, very big.
20 by 30 feet?
20 by 30 feet.
That's phenomenal.
We need those fluttering in the breeze.
The wind was long enough today to get it going, too, and it looks beautiful in a flutter.
It really does, and it speaks against the best.
It's hardly the only flag on display, but it was certainly the biggest.
That's right.
The Christian flag is on display, and the Gadson flag, and just so many flags that are so important to our race and our people.
That's absolutely right.
Confederate History Month.
Why do we celebrate it?
In your words.
We got about a minute.
Well, because those who obviously forget the mistakes of the past are condemned to repeat them, as the historian said.
But also telling the truth in a time such as this is a revolutionary act.
And we have to fight tooth and nail against this campaign to exterminate and extinguish the truth because the truth is what sets men free.
If people reject the truth, then God will deliver them over to strong delusion.
We are the evangelists for this truth, and we have to go out and pound the pavement and get the truth out.
This guy is a truth teller, extraordinaire.
He is Rick Tyler, longtime friend, and always a welcome guest on this program.
You'll be hearing more from Rick as the evening in the broadcast continues here on TPC, Confederate History Month.
It's Saturday, April 1st, and we are red hot and rolling.
Still not even halfway through yet.
Stay tuned, everybody.
We'll be right back.
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As long as the union was faithful to her trust, like friends and like brethren, kind, we were and just.
But now when northern treachery attempts our rats to mar, we'll hoist on high the party blue flag that bears a single star.
Hoorah, hoorah, for some of the rats, hoorah, hoorah, for a single star.
I just want to, the people here gathered at this live remote broadcast didn't hear what was playing because it's not played through a speaker here at the facility, but we could hear it in our headsets.
We're going to do special music at the top of every segment of every show this month.
And I get more emails around the last week of March, first couple of weeks of April.
is the People's series.
Confederate History Month is the series that I get more emails about than any other thing we do throughout the year.
People sending in music.
We're going to play music on the show even now in this, our 19th year of doing this, Confederate History Month.
We're going to play music on the show that I've never heard before.
And I'm going to hazard a guess.
Many of you perhaps haven't heard of it yet either.
There's a lot of Confederate music besides Dixie and Bonnie Blue Flag.
There's a lot of good stuff out there.
And a lot of people have sent in their requests.
And so we're going to honor those requests.
We're going to get to as many as we can with that extra Saturday that we have been given and gifted this month of April.
But you just heard a little bit of Bonnie Blue Flag.
I want to read just a few excerpts from the lyrics.
And when our rights were threatened, the cry rose near and far.
Hurrah for the Bonnie Blue flag that bears a single star.
As long as the Union was faithful to her trust, like friends and like brothers, both kind we were and just.
But now when Northern Treasury attempts our rights to mar, we hoist on high the bonny blue flag that bears the single star.
Then here's to our Confederacy.
Strong are we and brave.
Like patriots of old, we'll fight our heritage to save.
And rather than submit to shame, to die we would prefer.
So cheer for the bonny blue flag that bears a single star.
There is power and there is integrity and there's dignity in those lyrics.
That was the mantra of our people.
And I saw a picture that a listener in South Dakota, John, if you're listening tonight in South Dakota, longtime supporter of the program, he sent it to me last month.
We're going to post it up on Twitter here, probably tomorrow, maybe even after the show.
It was of a group of teenagers, maybe college-age students in the 1960s in Mississippi, wholesome, healthy young men and women in one of those big tank-like convertibles that you might have been driving around in the 1960s, festooned with Confederate flags.
And that culture and that society, even as late as the 1960s, was superior by every standard of measurement to that which we have been inflicted with today, that has been inflicted upon us today.
And I've told my wife and kids, I was having lunch, Sam Dixon's old, old friend, and in the mid-2000s, I was having lunch with him.
I've told this story before.
And I said, Sam, what is stopping them from just kicking down our door and trumping up charges and putting us in prison?
And I'll never forget what his answer.
His answer was very little.
And I know I'm not going to go out and commit a crime.
I'm not going to FedPost.
I'm not going to do anything to warrant being arrested or thrown in jail.
But I have told my wife and children, whom I love and whom we're here today, and so many of you have met and many of you know well, that that day may come.
And if it does come, I will stand and face it and bear it as my betters, not as my forefathers, not as my ancestors, although they were, as my betters faced it.
And that's got to be the mentality of our people.
Patrick.
There you go.
There we are.
I know this well.
I mean, I've lived it before.
I've had the federal government come at me.
They put me in prison.
It was in prison where I wound up coming up with the concept that we needed to change the way we approached secession.
What we have done for years has allowed the left to define who we are.
It was time for us to define who we are.
It was time for us to say we are a unique people, a different people.
And it was in prison where I had the opportunity to, and I wound up facing charges after saving dozens of lives and hundreds of millions of dollars of freight and all this other stuff.
And yet they still put me in prison for four false statements to the government in 2014 in Afghanistan.
Now, I know why they sent me there is because I was convicted of wrongthink.
I wound up going to Charlottesville.
They couldn't get me on anything there, so they decided to throw me in prison.
Now, I took my charges, and I sat in my cell, and I decided to make myself into a new grad school.
And I studied every single revolutionary movement that's been successful around the world.
And I used that opportunity to speak with other men inside there, and I took that opportunity to hone a new strategic path.
And the strategic path that I decided upon was, A, we need to define who we are.
We need to define our movement, no longer allowing the left to define us.
They've got too much of that already.
They've defined us for way too long.
We've let them do it.
We need to define ourselves, and we need to start defining them.
And that's got to happen.
That's the next phase is what we need to do to start defining them.
And that's where we're at right now.
Well, I have said for years to the point of repetitious exhaustion on this program that all of this support for wokeism is a mile wide and an inch deep.
Most people are just going to inherently and instinctively and naturally fall in line with whatever side is in power because people want to be pat on the head by a teacher.
They want to be told by the authority figure that they are part of the good guys.
And, you know, but all of that is very tenuous.
I mean, throughout history, this has changed from nation to nation and civilization to civilization and empire to empire.
They rise and fall.
Leaders change and situations change.
And they can change here again.
And when it does, a lot of the people who are cheerleading for the latest manifestations of the left are going to fall right back in line with the new leaders.
And that's just human nature, and it's a sad thing, but that's just the way it is.
I wish that everybody could be a true believer one way or the other, but that's just not the way most of the world works.
Going back to the reason for this book, Patrick, you wrote this, and this was something you were just touching on.
For too long, you wrote, our political and cultural enemies have been able to drive and define this conversation, the conversation about southern nationalism and independence.
This book, The Honorable Cause of Free South, as you write, will serve as a vital tool in retaking that communications mantle back from those who seek our destruction and ruin.
And I liked what you wrote here as well, that this book answers questions on our own terms and in our own way, and that it details how the South can achieve status as a nation state with a right of self-determination for its people.
Do you really believe that that could happen?
Yes.
Yes, I do.
I do believe that can happen.
I think what we have to do now is we need to be apostles for a new mission, and that mission needs to be for Southern freedom.
We need every individual, whether they are a child or an adult, I don't care if they are five or they are 50 or if they are 75, we need to be speaking to these individuals.
We need to stop fearing the consequences of telling the truth.
The consequence of not telling the truth is apparent.
We fall, we die as a group.
But the consequence of telling the truth is eternal glory.
And that has to be part of our mission.
We need to have tools available to explain why we are unique, why we have a right to freedom, why we should be seceding.
And we need to begin working on a granular level.
It's got to be those conversations we have one-on-one, small groups, shaking hands, meeting folks, having a beer or a cup of coffee.
We can do this.
We can do this.
But we need to be willing to come out there and say, I support Southern secession, and here's why.
And that has to happen.
And we can't fear that.
Well, Patrick, what you've got now is, as we mentioned at the top of the program, 47% of Republicans, that's tens of millions of people that are believing in, they don't want to call it secession, call it a national divorce, call it what you will.
Why this book is so important is these 47% of Republicans who have responded to Rasmussen polling and saying that they are in favor of a national divorce, they don't need to wait for this to be hijacked and co-opted and run into the ground like so many other movements have been.
They need to get behind a book that has been written by 12 authors who have been marinating in southern nationalism for most of our lives, people who have seriously considered it before it was a rising cause and a rising tide.
Absolutely.
And I think that's what was so important about it.
Getting the authors together was, and the reason why there was no micromanaging, as Rebecca stated earlier, was because there wasn't a need to micromanage.
These are folks that are passionate about the cause of southern secession, southern nationalism.
So there was no need to micromanage people that care.
So now we have a way in which we can approach different conversations.
We have Aprons of Resistance, which talks about women.
It's a chapter.
It talks about women and how women can show and take a stand for the South.
We have a chapter by Rick Dirtwater.
It talks about where it's breaking down.
If we have 47% on a nationwide level that's in support of a national divorce, that is a good start.
I want it to be somewhere closer to 100%.
And so we need to have every tool available at our disposal.
And when folks push back and say, well, secession can't happen or this won't happen, that won't happen.
I tell you right now, I come from an Irish background.
My mother is Irish.
We seceded from England.
Now, it was a bloody mess.
We don't need a bloody mess here.
What we need is a political will and a social will to push forward and continue to hammer home.
We have 47% of Republicans today.
Let's make it 100% after the election 2024.
And you're going to give us a possible scenario in the last segment of this hour on how it could happen.
I want you and Rick Tyler to bat that around back and forth.
We're going to have Rich Hamlin in the next segment.
But you mentioned it earlier in the conversation with Rebecca.
Half the states are passing legislation to further radicalize, go further to the left of the transgender issue.
Half the states are doing something different.
I mean, you know, basically that.
I mean, we're already two different nations.
Let's make it official and let's go from there.
We'll be right back, everybody.
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Or raised on high the public blue flag that bears a single star.
Hurrah, hurrah, for southern razor.
Hurrah for the flying blue flag that bears a single star.
Well, that's right.
As the lyrics remind us, it all started right here in South Carolina.
That's where it all started.
And that's where it's starting for us tonight as we kick off Confederate History Month 2023 on this program.
Well, I say it 19th.
It's our 19th year on the air, but we didn't start until October.
So I guess technically it's our 18th Confederate History Month.
But I digress.
Rich Hamlin is with us now.
Rich the Magnificent and his lovely wife, Janice, who is always a mainstay on our ladies' nights.
Dear good friends, both, and really suddenly much more than that, true family members as we count them.
And Rich, you've been here all day.
You traveled in this morning, and we had some lunch, or excuse me, we had dinner.
That's what we have at lunchtime is dinner.
Rebecca, Rebecca's nodding her head.
We haven't had supper yet.
Yankees have lunch.
We have dinner.
That's right.
That's right.
All right.
Well, interesting point made a moment ago, and that is that even in the states that are passing laws restricting the mutilation of children's genitals, and I have to put it that frankly, they're being overturned by federal judges.
So it just goes to further reiterate the point that there is no voting our way out of this, and there's no legislating our way out of this.
If that could have happened, the South would have never changed.
And it goes back to Brown versus Borden and even before that.
But no voting legislating our way out of this.
So what do you do at that point?
Well, that's a very good question.
It's a very dawning question.
At least in 1861, we had state legislatures that would pass ordinances of secession and would stand up to the federal government.
And if secession was illegal and unconstitutional, then why did the North require all the seceding states repeal their ordinances of secession before they could be admitted back into the Union?
That was one of the preconditions, that in the adoption of the 14th Amendment.
So we have a situation.
Yeah, the courts are against this, but, you know, this is a case I really wish Michael Gaddy had made it here because he's.
Michael Gaddy, everybody, break out.
He is a real scholar on this stuff and points out the fecklessness of trustee in the U.S. Constitution because some flaws that are basically built into it, one of which is the judiciary having the veto power.
And you can thank John Marshall for that and Marbury versus Madison for judicial review.
As long as that stuff's going on, and the other major flaw is that there's no enforcement mechanism in the Bill of Rights.
You know, if the federal, if a central government violates it, there's no measures in there for punishing the guilty parties.
But to speak back to the court cases, it's even worse than that.
A single federal judge can overturn a state statute.
A federal judge can order a state to spend money in the school system, like happened in St. Louis about 30 years ago, I guess it was.
They had made him redistrict and redefine the, you know, reallocate the budget to his liking.
I lived through it in Nashville, where, and I'm sure a lot of people in this room have been in the same situation where they were victimized by forced busing and any kind of school districting plan, as well as voting plans now, had to be passed the scrutiny of the federal district judge before it can go into effect.
But now we've got a situation.
Tennessee recently introduced a very strong nullification bill.
And it was directed, it was narrowly focused at nullifying executive orders, you know, because in a proper interpretation of the Constitution, the executive officer, the president, should only have control over the executive agencies.
He can't make blanket orders, no matter what, where they pull the justification for that kind of stuff out.
But what happened to the bill?
It got tabled in committee.
So you've got supposedly conservative Republican administrations like Tennessee.
Tennessee has super majorities in both houses.
They own the governorship, yet they are continually failing to look out for the rights of the people and even follow their own constitutional oaths, you know, the oaths they took when they assumed office.
And so it's like they want to have their cake and eat it too.
They want to spew a little firewater and do some fire eating.
But when it comes down to it, they want to make sure that they protect themselves and their own people.
I'm old enough, I'm 68, I remember the government shutdown under Newt Gingrich.
And it was a big national catastrophe and everybody was wringing their hands about it and so on and so forth.
And they got nowhere.
And one of the reasons was at that time, and I'm talking about 1993 or 1994, 40% of the American population exists on government largesse, whether it's a salary, a direct salary, a pension.
They are a private contractor that contracts with the government.
They have an agricultural subsidy.
They have a student loan guarantee.
They have a housing guarantee, an FHA loan.
So when you got that much of claws into the population, and God only knows what it is now, that was 30 years ago, and the budget then was barely a trillion dollars.
And now next year's budget's going to be $7 trillion, and they're throwing money around like they actually have it.
They're spending like drunken sailors, and that's kind of an insult to sailors.
Yeah.
So, yeah, I think the wheels are going to come off.
How they're going to come off, I don't know.
There's a lot of work to be done.
The school system has successfully brainwashed the population into just idiocy, I guess is the best way to, they don't have a questioning attitude or don't care, you know, or they're more concerned about what's on TikTok or this other stuff.
But by the same talk, by the time they turn 18, if you look at the working class today, and I mean, I've got a glass business, you know, and I hire people, and I'm around construction trades.
And one of the biggest problems out there right now is alcoholism and drug abuse among the working-age population.
So when you have them in la-la land all the time, they're not going to listen to lofty ideals about freedom and liberty, and all they're going to care about is where their next check is coming from, where their next fix is coming from, and where their next meal is coming from.
And that's unfortunately a sad state to look at.
But I mean, that's what we're doing.
Well, you know, a lot of that abuse of substances that you're talking about, especially amongst our people, is because they've been giving nothing to be hopeful for.
They've been told that they're evil.
They've been told that they are worthless, that their only history is colonialism and slavery.
And they've lost their sense of purpose.
They've lost their sense of identity.
They've lost their sense of goodness.
And Patrick, that's something that you were mentioning last night is that for our people to embrace the idea of independence and secession, they have to believe that they're worth it.
That's absolutely right.
There's never been a successful revolutionary movement of any kind where the people did not feel that they were worthy of freedom.
If you don't feel that you're worthy of freedom, you're not going to fight for freedom.
And so that is where we have failed.
We have failed to make this argument for our folks.
I do believe that there's going to come now these hooks, these federal hooks have come in from various elements.
You talk about student loans and contracting and federal insurance programs for housing and so forth.
That's going to come off the rails when the U.S. dollar collapses.
And we're right about that corner.
It's about to happen here.
Every indication right now shows that the Chinese, Russians, and Saudis are talking about a new alternative to the U.S. dollar.
When that happens, I think these programs lose the weight.
And we need to begin arguing now to our people that they are worthy of walking away from this current system and building something that's based on their own beliefs, their own values, and their own people.
We need to be working on that because if they don't feel that they're worthy of it, they're not going to pursue it.
Final word to you, Mr. Margaret.
No, I agree.
I agree on that.
The other thing we need to be telling them is how to survive.
You know, because if the dollar crashes and the money's no good and the ATM stop, I mean, I remember reading stories from a few years ago when the debit cards for the ECB cards didn't work, you know, out in California.
There were literal riots.
And we've got a large percentage of the population, especially down south.
I mean, we talked about this problem 30 years ago in the league, that, what, 40% of the population of South Carolina is black.
You know, that's a lot of people.
And when they stop getting their Gibs and the machines run dry, then they're not going to be real happy and they're not going to be respectful of anybody else's property.
I mean, it's going to be gimme, gimme, gimme.
Sorry, that's when they can go to San Francisco and get their $5 million for the reparations that have just been passed.
I don't know if this is, it's like you said, I don't see how the Babylon voice has, the Babylon B has a voice anymore because I can't differentiate between satire and reality.
I heard that they voted to give them $5 million and 40 acres in a tractor.
Is that real?
I swear, I think that's real.
We'll be right back.
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From South Carolina to Tennessee and all of those great southern states in between.
And we're looking at you too, Kentucky and Missouri.
We know what happened to you in Missouri.
You count.
We count Missouri, right?
We count Missouri.
Yeah, we count Missouri.
We love Missouri.
Missouri's got good people.
They're still holding the line up there.
There's good people up in rural Missouri.
You know, you get out to, yeah, exactly.
You get up to those rural areas and it's still southern.
Absolutely.
As I saw, I said on an earlier show, Joe Prisch today, he asked me 11 states in the CSS.
And no, there are 13.
Yeah, that's right.
That's right.
Absolutely.
So, yeah, absolutely.
Bonnie Blue Flag didn't mention them, but we do.
Anyway, so having a great supper last night with Patrick Martin.
By the way, editor of the book, The Honorable Calls of Free South, available right now at Amazon.com.
Patrick, just 30 seconds on this.
It has held steady, as you mentioned, in the top 10 to 20 on Amazon since it's released nearly two weeks ago in the nationalism category, almost two weeks.
Yeah, it's about a week and a half, actually.
It's about 10 days, and we've held steady, and we have not had anywhere near the kind of promotion we've done this weekend.
Yeah, and we're competing against millionaire publishing companies, multi-million dollar publishing companies, and folks with really big, you know, a big national profile.
And our little group is just plugging along.
Thanks to all the people.
John Friend, who gave us some press, and the American Free Press, who's doing an article on it, Tom Sunik.
A lot of people, I was on with Patrick Ryan last week, and still many more interviews and reviews and articles that are going to be coming out as quickly as they can get put out.
It's hard to get everybody to do it on the same day because of different people's production schedules and deadlines and things like that.
But there's going to be much more you'll hear about this book.
But we are doing it as intensely as we can tonight, encouraging you to go to Amazon.com, the honorable cause of Free South.
Now, I want to get Rick Tyler in on this conversation with you.
So I'm going to toss my mic over to Rick.
And Patrick is going to paint a possible scenario that could kick off this whole thing balkanizing.
And it deals with the Trump indictment and Ron DeSantis.
And what did you tell me last night, Patrick?
Again, we're not saying that this is the way it's going to go, but it's just something to think about.
It could be one of the many ways things could crystallize here.
So, yeah, so it's interesting because a lot of conversations go on around Article 4, Clause 2, Section 2 of the Constitution, specifically in which a governor is required to honor the extradition requests of another governor in the country.
Now, there are some very limited exceptions there.
One would be that in the event they were to say this request was illegally done, but they can't actually argue about the merits of the case.
Now, in this particular scenario, what could occur is the following: Trump himself could say, I don't want to, I'm not going to engage in this indictment.
I think it's false.
I'm not going to go turn myself in.
Holtral would then come around and say, she would say, New York's governor, Hochul, she would say, you got to get extra out of him, send a message over to DeSantis.
DeSantis has come out and said he will not assist in the extradition.
Now, that's when we get to a constitutional crisis.
That's the point in which Hokul would then turn around to the federal government and say, you have a governor who has openly and by virtue of the Insurrection Act has decided not to honor his constitutional obligation to turn over Trump.
In this case scenario, the state of New York still has an indictment against Trump, so there's a warrant for Trump's arrest, but the federal government would then open up a warrant for DeSantis' arrest.
In such a scenario, it would be questionable whether DeSantis decided to turn himself in or not.
Now, if DeSantis did not turn himself in, that is when the federal government would come after DeSantis.
Now, there is an interesting new change in Florida where the State Guard specifically is directed by the governor.
And the governor does not have to turn to the legislature to activate the State Guard.
The State Guard is currently being run by a Marine Corps lieutenant colonel with no emergency background, no emergency skills background.
He is a former combat pilot.
He was drumrolled essentially out of the Marine Corps.
He was forced to retire when he became critical of the transgender ideology that was taking over the Marine Corps and the military in general.
And this is a guy who actually stepped out of his helicopter to go fight on the ground and lead battalions in combat in Iraq.
This is not some pushover kind of character.
He's the one who's in charge of the State Guard.
And what he's building in Florida right now in the State Guard are not individuals, even though they said it was going to be hurricane preparedness in response to the federal government's lack of a response to the tornadoes that struck in early 2022, that DeSantis would, instead, the State Guard could order them to protect him from a federal arrest.
If that were to occur, you would have a state guard standoff against federal authorities who have already been ordered, by the way.
The Florida Department of Law Enforcement was ordered middle of last year not to cooperate with the FBI on anything that was not a current investigation of a fugitive or some other kind of interstate criminal matter.
So in other words, the FDLE is no longer sharing information or resources with the FBI.
That ended last year.
And that was over a dispute that occurred between the DeSantis administration, Ashley Moody, the current AG, and the Biden administration.
So you could have a scenario where you would have Trump, who just happens to be standing around in Mar-a-Lago and DeSantis up in Tallahassee with a face-off between the federal government and the Florida State Guard.
That is a possible scenario.
Do I think DeSantis would go that far?
I doubt it.
But if he were to do that, now you're talking about a genuine secession movement.
Because then you get all of those tens of millions of Trump voters for all of his faults and for even all of the faults that DeSantis may have.
If they can help play a role in this thing, that's the eventual outcome that we seek.
Now, I want to get Rick Tyler in on this, but DeSantis has said to date, now he hasn't been served with the order yet, but that he would not extradite Trump, correct?
That is correct.
He actually said he would not assist with the extradition of Trump.
And some folks think that's a play on words.
I don't believe that's a play on words for one reason.
There is no federal option at the moment for anybody to grab Trump because this is state charges.
These are not federal charges.
So right now, Trump is protected by the Secret Service.
Now, if it were to go into a federal matter, that would be a different story.
Then Biden can order the Secret Service to grab him and they would just fly him up north.
But right now, those are state charges.
There's no federal option here.
So the only option is a state-to-state option.
That means that Florida would have to act on the request of the extradition predicated again on Article 4, Clause 2, Section 2.
So again, just a hypothetical scenario, a situation.
Maybe all moot.
I hear now that Trump has already flown to Trump Towers to prepare his surrender, but I don't know.
That was a good thought anyway.
But anyway, Rick, what do you make of it?
I mean, how do you see this whole thing playing out with Trump?
Well, while the scenario that's been outlined is certainly hypothetically possible, I think that it's pretty evident if you really look at things through a total realistic prism that Trump's plan is to run vigorously for the 2024 nomination of the Republican Party or the election and then become president again.
No, no, because even Alan Dershowitz, who is ideologically way on the other end of the spectrum, makes it readily apparent that Trump will inevitably win on appeal.
And even though they've judge-shopped and they've put a judge on this case that's very anti-Trump, there still is a limit to what will be done.
The public isn't ready to just take total, complete capitulation.
So there's a limit to what will be done.
Trump will not have his movements restricted.
He'll be able to campaign vigorously.
There are many who are cynical among us.
I won't mention any names, but some of us, you know, even suspect that Trump might be nothing more than controlled opposition.
And if that be the case, then, of course, January 6th was a big setup in order to demonize and label everybody to the right of Sean Hannity a terrorist.
And Trump will win again so that we can have round two, you know, of this escalating phenomenon of marginalizing and polarizing us into a position where then they can maybe even, God forbid, do some kind of false flag activity, blame it on the movement, and then use that for the total crackdown.
James, you mentioned earlier about, you know, this idea of possibly going to prison sometime in the future, you know, for standing for truth.
A lot of greater men than us have gone to prison for a lot less.
And so, you know, this is something that the enemy is angling toward, I'm sure, in their playbook.
God can deliver us, and God can, you know, with him, all things are possible.
But I think that our secession is going to have to start on a smaller scale, the county level.
Agreed.
I totally agree with you.
You said last night, too.
That's right.
That's where the real power play is, is county level.
What we have to do as a movement is target those school boards, those town councils.
That's what we need to be focused on at a very granular level.
I just wanted to ask, Patrick, you informed me of something last night that I had never heard of.
And this seemed to be something that would be almost elementary in nature that you would understand.
And I've never heard of it.
The very interesting political situation Florida has on a county-by-county basis.
I think you're going to shock some people with what you're going to tell me.
Yeah, so Florida still has a county unit system for statewide elected officials.
So you can lose the popular vote in Florida and still win a statewide election.
It's the last holdout, if I understand it correctly.
I think Georgia did have it and got rid of it, unfortunately.
If you had it in Georgia, Atlanta and Savannah would not nearly have the kind of power that they have right now.
What happened back in the late 60s, early 70s was a group called the Pork Chop Gang in Florida.
They were very afraid of what was going on with Yankee transplants and Cuban migrants.
They didn't know which way they were going to go.
And so what they did to protect the rural counties in the center of the state was that they created a county unit system.
So Marion County is a good example where I was raised.
Baker County, Clay County, these are counties that are rural counties equal one vote.
Then you've got Miami-Dade, where you got Dade County, so you've got one vote.
You've got in Polk County with Tampa, one vote.
So the major cities cannot overpower the rural counties on statewide elections.
Now, Florida still has that system in place, which is what makes Florida, has kept Florida going to more and more red, despite the number of transplants we've had over the course of the last 20, 30, 40 years.
So that flood comes down.
It doesn't change our political dynamic.
In fact, our political dynamic continues to move left.
I'm sorry, right, which is why the counties are so important, especially in places like Florida.
We can push them further and further to the right, which we are doing, we're working.
That's when you really have that power.
That's when you get that power.
You get that legislator in the state that says, I want to push forward a nullification type clause or something of that nature.
Rick, you've been big on that in Polk County, Tennessee.
Yes, and I would also like to add at this point that really, when you consider the fabric of our people back at the time of the American Revolution, we had a basically a moral, upright type mentality among our people.
And we don't have that now, especially statewide.
But there could be a county, a small rural county that could secede and show the world that it can be done.
Well, the music begins to play.
We were talking about this last night.
I mean, I believe it's already passed the Idaho state legislature.
I don't know whether or not that's going to pass the state senate and get ratified, but there's a movement afoot for greater Idaho.
And it's not just the South.
And by the way, when this whole thing falls apart, it won't just be the old Confederacy that's going to be a part of whatever is to come.
It's going to be a lot of Mountain West states and a lot of these conservative heartland states as well.
Rick Tyler, Patrick Martin, Rich Hamlin this hour.
And we'll be back for the third and final hour right after this.