Nov. 26, 2022 - The Political Cesspool - James Edwards
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You're listening to the Liberty News Radio Network, and this is the Political Cesspool.
The Political Cesspool, known across the South and worldwide as the South's foremost populist conservative radio program.
And here to guide you through the murky waters of the political cesspool is your host, James Edwards.
Ladies and gentlemen, you probably recognize that bit of music as What Child Is This?
And it's true, those lyrics were put to the tune, but that song's actual title is Green Sleeves, and legend has it that King Henry VIII composed it for Anne Boleyn.
Now, there's no historical consensus on that, but we do know that that song dates back to 16th century Europe.
And I thought it would be a perfect way to kick off this special season of faith, family, and tradition, this season of hope and goodwill.
We're now officially post-Thanksgiving, so welcome to the Christmas season here on TPC.
I'm your host, James Edwards.
We're broadcasting live this Saturday night, November the 26th.
And joining us from Iowa right now as we kick off this festive and spiritual time for our people is a man who truly needs no introduction to this or any audience in America, I don't think, making his debut on the program tonight is former Congressman Steve King.
Congressman, it is truly an honor to have you here.
And I know that turkey may still be settling, but is it too early to say Merry Christmas?
Oh, it's not too early.
My wife went shopping today and hasn't returned yet.
So I think it's all right.
She's getting ready, James.
I'm happy to be on with you tonight.
I'm really pleased and honored.
Well, I assure you, the honor is entirely ours.
And ladies and gentlemen, over the course of the next hour, by the way, my wife has been out today too, so we're in those trenches together.
That and others, as it would turn out.
And over the course of the next hour, we're going to be talking with Representative King about his time in Congress, his vision for the future, and a must-read book, Walking Through Fire, My Fight for the Heart and Soul of America.
You can find it at steveking.com.
But first, you sat down with Tucker Carlson recently for an absolutely riveting interview.
There's so many things I want to get to tonight with you.
But just a few days ago with Tucker, you were talking about how Washington operates.
And even Tucker Carlson, who, of course, has spent his entire life covering politics, said that the interview, throughout that interview, he learned so much from you about how Congress actually worked.
Now, could we just start there, maybe just boil it down while focusing on your personal experiences for just a couple of minutes before we get to the meat of the matter?
Well, James, I think the thing that people are missing is, and by the way, I missed some of it when I was in that arena, the power structure that's been built by leadership itself, the way they've coveted power.
And for me, I saw this, though, by the time we got to 2010, Democrats are in the majority, elected, and won the majority in 06.
They lost it in 2010 because they passed Obamacare on us.
And when we took over that majority, we had 87 new freshmen.
And I didn't want to see Republican leadership reflect the kind of power-centric at the top that Nancy Pelosi had.
So I went to work to change the rules, change the steering committee, and take this thing so it would be membership-driven, bottom-up, rather than top-down imposed.
And I recall that it got so bad that John Boehner was to be the speaker and became speaker.
It got so bad that when they were changing the map on where the steering committee came from, which states by each representative, they were doing that on the fly because they'd already decided who was going to be on the steering committee and they were writing this map verbally to us.
And so I wrote it down and I brought an amendment that codified what they were explaining.
And I should have been honored that I was going to put them in a place where they had a chance to keep their words.
But John Boehner stood in front of me and his hands were just trembling.
He came out from behind the podium and approached me, just stood there and his hands were shaking because I had challenged their power.
Well, that just grew and grew.
So I guess fast forward is this, that they consolidated the power base even more while John Boehner was speaker.
And they passed legislation in 2013 or 14 that let them draw thousands more money into the leadership team, the leadership pact, and the party, and limited, of course, capped it for members to now it's $2,900 per individual per primary, and then, of course, another one for the general election.
So I said this on Tucker that for every dollar that a candidate can raise and meet the caps from an individual contribution from one individual, for every one, I said this on Tucker, it's $132 that can be raised by leadership.
And then, but actually, I had to go back and recalculate that.
So I want to correct it here.
That must have been anyway.
It's $88.
For $1 a candidate can raise from an individual donor, it's $88 to leadership.
But if you calculate then, the RNC, the Republican National Committee, that number goes from $80 up to $214, $214 to $1.
And so how do you compete with people like that who then say you go down to the NRCC, get on the telephone, and you spend your time down there raising money and giving it to the party.
And if you raise enough money, you're going to get a committee assignment that you might want.
You could even become a chairman one day or a subcommittee chairman.
And so it's, not only do they hold the leverage of a vast majority of the money, they decide who in the primaries is going to come out of that.
Kevin McCarthy has been picking the rhinos over the conservatives.
So this is way too power-centric and it doesn't reflect we the people.
What it is is leadership imposing their will on the group rather than leadership bringing out the will of the group.
You need to watch this entire interview with Tucker Carlson.
I retweeted it a couple of days ago.
I guess it had to have been a day or so before Thanksgiving.
Check it out, folks.
Your eyes will widen and your jaws will drop as Steve King pulls back the curtain on the inner workings of Washington.
And I asked you on the phone the other day why there aren't more men like you in Washington, why men and women of honor are so scarce up there.
Are people worthy of leadership just too busy working and raising families to run for office?
Or are people who get elected just looking after number one?
Are they too concerned with maintaining their position to face the wrath of the media once they're in office?
Are they susceptible to bribes and threats?
What's going on here?
You know, all of those options apply in some places or other.
But generally speaking, you get freshmen that come in that are generally, they generally have ideals and they have objectives and goals, and they think they're going to be able to accomplish that.
But I went through 11 days of, they called it orientation, and it was about, oh, I'd say four days of orientation and seven days of indoctrination.
And they tell you what you should never do, like never vote against the rule.
So that keeps them in control of you even more.
And about you need to raise money because you can't change the world if you don't come back next time.
These kind of things.
And the leverage just keeps going and going and going.
I recall when that class elected in 2010, I was walking over to vote one evening, very early in that session with a freshman.
And he said, well, I got appointed to the rules committee and I'm pretty happy about that assignment.
And I said, oh, well, you ought to be happy, I guess.
You get to vote the way leadership tells you to on the rules committee.
It is the speaker's rules committee, and that's not what that is and long has been.
And he said, oh, no, they told me I could vote my conscience.
I'm a free man.
And if I do well enough on the rules committee, then I'm going to be able to get out ways and means in a couple of years.
And that's my goal.
Well, okay, but he learned.
And 10 years later, he was still on the rules committee and he was voting the way leadership wanted him to vote.
Now he's retired.
That's kind of what happens to a lot of them like that.
So that's why we don't have more champions, more representatives, let me put it this way, championing the issues of, in your case, the Republican Party, which I'm a conservative.
I'm a populist.
That's why we don't have more representation up there that are willing to talk about the tough issues like you talked about, like defending Western civilization.
And folks, we're going to get to all of that with the one and only Steve King.
SteveKing.com.
Check out this book.
We're going to talk a little bit more about that, and then we'll get into some topics that are going to make those intrepid journalists, so-called journalists at the Huffington Post and Daily Beef, absolutely salivate.
Stay tuned.
It's all coming your way this hour.
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Because they get spiritual power from lying.
The lies come from Satan, the father of lies.
John 8:44.
Here's how the political lying process works: Satan provides the beast with a lie.
Then the more they use the lie, the more spiritual power they get.
Look, the media is a lie multiplier, and this multiplication gives more evil spiritual power to the beast.
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The churches today are incorporated, so they're subordinate to human government.
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All right, and back we are with Congressman Steve King.
Folks, I want to remind you to check out steveking.com, this book that we are going to be talking about this segment, Walking Through Fire.
And surely he did that if you followed his career.
My fight for the heart and soul of America.
I will just give you a cornucopia of topics are covered in this book.
Political treason by the Republican hierarchy, media defamation, libel, and slander.
Again, talk about Western civilization, King's early life, President Trump and Congressman King.
The illegal alien invasion and its magnitude.
As he puts it, the lying mendacious duplicity of Kevin McCarthy and so much more.
So much more.
And folks, you know how it works around here.
We don't ask you, we will promote a lot of things.
We will have people on to promote things, but we won't purposefully, I will not specifically ask you to support something and buy something unless I have done so myself.
Earlier today, I made the purchase and I can't wait to receive the book.
Congressman King, I don't even know where to start with all of the topics, but let's start with Trump, who just made that announcement.
You said the other day that your opinion on the 2024 race changed not too long ago.
Let's talk about Trump, his prospects, and your experiences with him.
Well, yes, I think I'd start with this, James, that I've said to people, and I believe we had this conversation on August 7th of this summer.
If you'd asked me what my preferred approach would be, it would have been if Trump would step back and become the godfather of Trumpism and encourage one or two or several candidates that would be aggressive and active to carry forward.
That seemed to me to be the best route because he has been pounded so much and he's got anchors he's dragging.
But the next morning, about nine o'clock, then Merrick Garland's troops showed up at Mar-a-Lago.
And when that happened, when they raided Mar-a-Lago, that means all bets are off.
All pretense is out of the way.
They have weaponized and they are using that Department of Justice for a political agenda, an aggressive, an aggressive political agenda.
That tells me that it is so corrupt.
We have to have a president on our Republican ballot that will go in there and pull every one of these characters out.
If he can't fire them, put them in a warehouse for four years, let them sit there till they get tired of it.
But they need about, I'd say, about three tears down.
And when I think of, say, a DeSantis, who has all the skill sets to be a really good president, if he came in as president in 2024, he would clean up some of the Trump mess that's there.
I'm talking about the people that are the entrenched people who are undercutting Trump from the executive branch of government.
He would clean up some of that.
I don't think he would clean it all up because he'd have his agenda and his legacy to worry about.
There's only one person that has the motive and the knowledge to go in and straighten this government out, and that's Donald Trump.
And however hard it might be to get him re-elected again, we're hearing pushback come from the establishment wing of the party.
They sure don't want him there because they're the unit party partners on the Republican side.
And that's so that the press is actually, I think, standing DeSantis up to try to create a foil for Trump.
But they're not going to be any nicer to DeSantis than they were to McCain after he was, you know, after he won the nomination.
That's right.
And I don't mean to interrupt you, but you are, that was the take that we had after Trump's announcement.
And I was reading things, and I mentioned this last week, and I don't want to dwell on this because there's so much we need to cover.
But I saw a CNN op-ed written by David Axelrod talking about how wonderful DeSantis was and how that was the best choice for the Republican Party.
I was wondering, why is this lifelong Democratic operative, why are they being so nice and so helpful?
You figured it out right away when you saw Axelrod endorsing DeSantis.
Yeah, that's part of what they want to do.
They fear Donald Trump and they will try anything to avoid having him sent back into the White House.
But I think we have to step up.
We owe it to him after all.
Here's something that happened that I think people don't know about is that when he was elected in 2016, I believe the date was November 8th.
But in any case, the following Sunday, the Occidental Mandarin Hotel in Washington, D.C. had been reserved by the high-powered Democrats.
They came in on Sunday, checked in on Sunday afternoon, and Sunday, Monday, Tuesday, and checked out at noon on Wednesday.
The lead there was George Soros, but all the top people were there.
They had planned to calculate how they were going to exploit Hillary's presidency.
Of course, they had to change their plan.
And there, they plotted the resistance movement.
They decided Donald Trump would not be allowed to govern this country.
They would time up every possible way.
And I believe out of there, and this part I don't know for a fact, I believe out of there came the plan to impeach him because we heard right away on the floor of Congress at Lame Duck, we're going to impeach Donald Trump before he was ever even inaugurated into office.
So that's women with pink hats, a million of them in Washington, D.C. for the inauguration, demonstrations in nearly every major city in the country.
It was all, I believe, orchestrated out of that hotel with George Soros calling some of the shots and some of the minions following through.
So I don't know if that particular part is in the book, but you're going to get these behind-the-scenes observances of Congressman King, how the political lynching of his own party against him.
Let's talk about that.
Set the conservative movement back for years to come.
I mean, Kevin McCarthy.
Look, Kevin McCarthy, the GOP has a House majority now.
What would you like to see with regards to the next leadership there?
And what should Republicans attempt to do over the course of the next two years?
Well, I say the first thing is that Kevin McCarthy does not have the moral character to be Speaker of the House.
And it's been his singular objective since he came into the House of Representatives.
He was chief of staff for Bill Thomas out of California prior to that.
So he's been steeped in this.
Bill Thomas knew how to pull the levers of power too.
But I watched McCarthy when he came in as a freshman.
I could see that pattern.
I could see him maneuvering constantly.
And almost everybody in that conference agrees that his singular goal is to be Speaker.
Now, if you want to be something, that's not necessarily means you want to do something.
And he is a rhino.
For example, here's, I authored the Heartbeat Bill at the national level and brought that in and moved that into Congress.
And we worked it really hard.
We got to 174 co-sponsors, almost twice as many as you would normally need to get a hearing in a markup before the Judiciary Committee, where I was seated for 16 years.
And at the end of the lame duck session, near the end of the lame duck session, we had about two weeks left.
And that needed to come before a markup, before the Judiciary Committee, according to a 100% promise given to me by the chairman about Goodlap.
But Kevin McCarthy killed the heartbeat bill.
He killed it when all we had to do was bring it through the committee.
And we would have said to the world, you know what?
Congress is on the side of life, and we don't have exceptions for rape and incest, and we're going to protect every baby with a heartbeat.
But he killed it dead.
And that would be about mid-December of 2018.
By late January, early February 2019, I got my fundraising letter from the Susan B. Anthony List, the lead pro-life organization in the country, which Marilyn and I have supported for a while.
And on that letter was a four-page letter from Kevin McCarthy.
He's now the new pro-life champion for Susan B. Anthony's list.
That's just sickening to me.
The babies that have died because he stood in the way and that he's raising money and calling himself, now he's calling himself pro-life.
And now this week he's calling himself pro-border security.
And he came to me once and said, how do I get my numbers up on immigration?
He gets like a D.
I don't remember exactly, but I think it was a D from Numbers USA.
And the answer back is, why don't you do something positive to secure the border?
Of course, he didn't until now.
He thinks he has to.
It is not just smoke and mirrors.
It's cynical.
And he thinks he's smarter than everybody else around him.
And we don't see this.
And I put this out in a tweet the other day.
It came into my ear from others that knew him, but I knew it to be true.
He said, Kevin McCarthy will look you in the eye and he will lie to you even when he knows you know he's lying if that gets him to the next step.
And he's lied to me.
It does.
And I've had him on tape.
That's a pretty scathing commentary coming from a former United States representative about the speaker or at least current speaker of the house.
Well, it is, but, you know, I live that.
He's the one that orchestrated the nationwide ambush on me because he had concluded, I believe, that in the final analysis, there are a number of things.
They didn't want me securing the border.
They didn't want me standing in the way to repeal Obamacare.
They sure didn't like the idea that this conservative in Iowa, where we're first in a nation caucus, was getting more and more leverage as the candidates came through here and ensuring that the principled constitutional conservatives were going to be the ones that came out of Iowa.
All of that created enemies.
And so, and that, and that's some within the state of Iowa, many of them at the Republican elitist level, the Jeb Bushes, the Mitt Romney's, the Chris Christie's, those people, those never-Trumper Republicans, they came to Iowa.
I treated them nice, but they didn't get any traction.
And so they wanted to be able to nominate the candidate of their choice.
But Kevin McCarthy was right there in the middle of this because he needed to get rid of at least one person that would perhaps lead the way to deny him the speakership.
And this cycle we're talking about right now.
Ladies and gentlemen, the book at SteveKing.com, Walking Through Fire by the gentleman you are listening to right now, has been endorsed by a lot of the heavy hitters.
Jim DeMint, Louis Gomer, Colonel Oliver North, Michelle Bachmann, yeah, Ollie North, Tom Tancredo, and Foreword by Michelle Malk.
And you want to know how Washington operates behind the scenes?
I'm not going to say this is a tell-all book, but it is a book you'll want to read.
I can't wait to read it.
I have not read it yet.
Let me be honest about that, but I have ordered it, and it's going to be something that's going to be on my Christmas reading list and so much more.
We're going to shift gears here after the break, Congressman.
But well, there's the music right now.
If you can answer in 10 seconds, what is the reason people need to read this book?
To find out what goes on in the inner workings of Congress and understand how devious the leadership can be and why we don't have our voice heard in Washington.
There it is.
And you heard it from the man himself.
We'll be right back with him, Steve King, the one and only live on your radio.
We'll be right back.
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Had a little false start that last segment.
Well, it is the first week into the Christmas season after all.
And you know, one of the things we like to do here is to play a lot of that feel-good music.
Am I right, ladies and gentlemen?
It is a very special time of year for yours truly, and I believe this entire listening audience and our guest as well tonight, Congressman Steve King.
Congressman, I want to get into what your plans are for the future and hit some heavy topics as well.
Now, on this particular program, we do hit the heavy topics.
So I'm going to hit you with a few things here and feel free to take a pass or answer them or say, you know, it's much to do about nothing or take it in any direction you'd like.
But at Merriam-Webster online dictionary, which is where I'm at right now, they define genocide as being the deliberate and systematic destruction of a racial, political, or cultural group.
Been a lot of talk this year, a lot of talk recently about the great replacement.
The media calls it a theory, but it's not a theory.
The white population of this country was well over 90% in the 1960s.
Today it's much closer to 50%.
Now, that's a fact.
You can argue why that's happening and whether or not it's intentional, but you cannot argue that it is not occurring, not at least in good faith.
Several polls have shown that a majority of Republican voters, Trump voters, base Republican voters, now recognize that this is happening and are in opposition to it.
What is your opinion on the issue, Congressman?
And do you think that it rises to meet the definition of a genocide?
Well, I don't know if I'd quite say genocide because it's not pushing for a mass death.
It's just pushing for a mass exploration of lower birth rates among whites is one of the things that they like to see.
And bringing in massive numbers of aliens of all kinds, whether they're legal or illegal, from every culture, almost except without almost everything but white culture.
I'll say European culture is one of those things.
And so I have to say, I've looked at this for a long time, and I've had my concerns that go back a quarter century or more.
And I've been down to the border over and over again.
And I just began doing a calculation.
What happens when you bring in, I'll say, military-age men by the millions from the cultures that are violent and they don't accept our American civilization.
And I will argue this, that you bring in one person from another culture, you're importing their culture too.
It's axiomatic.
When you bring a second one in, you can still assimilate.
And then greater the number, sooner or later they become an enclave and they reconstruct their home country here in an enclave in the United States.
And the others will say, oh, all the cultures are equal.
They are not.
Western civilization is a superior civilization.
And it is actually the first world, James.
First world is Western civilization.
It doesn't exist outside of Western civilization.
And then you've got the second world, the Marxists, the Communists, and the third world are the people that are living in survival.
So why would you want to destroy the first world?
But they do.
They despise what has been accomplished by Western civilization.
They've created this racial envy.
They've said that Western civilization is white civilization, therefore it's evil, and that babies born with white skin are inherently racist.
I mean, this thing is accelerated in such a way that it's a whiplash in America.
And why would a people that have built the greatest civilization in the history of the world hand it over out of something called white guilt?
I think we're entitled to accepting some gratitude for all that's been built here and the comfort that's there for all the people in this country.
And by the way, this also is happening in Europe in a big way.
I went over to Europe and spent several trips.
I don't know how many trips I made in there, but I made several that were intentionally to walk among those hordes of people that were marching from horizon to horizon into Europe, primarily aimed for Germany.
And I've gone into the no-go zones in most all of those countries, walked in there unprotected when the State Department said, we're not going.
I just walked in.
I've seen it.
I've talked to them over there.
It is strategic.
It's being pushed again by George Soros and others.
And the objective is to hold and maintain democratic power, but tear down Western civilization.
And then they believe in the chaos created, they can take total power.
And that total power would be a Marxist-type government with a few oligarchs at the top, engaged communities, and chaos everywhere else.
That is one hell of an answer, Congressman.
And I thank you and I applaud you.
I salute you for giving it.
Listen, let's just get into it a little bit deeper.
I heard a joke one time, and there's truth in it.
Okay.
The joke is, what do you call a black man who is thankful for the way God made him?
You call him a black man.
What do you call a white man who's thankful for the way God made him?
A white supremacist.
And so this is my take on this.
I believe that every group of people ought to be proud of their unique history and their ancestors and their heroes and their culture and their folkways and their faith.
But humanity does consist of unique groups who oftentimes have conflicting interests.
And to put them all in one living space breeds, I think, discontent.
If you asked any member of Congress how they plan to help African Americans or Hispanic Americans or homosexuals or whomever, they would have an answer lock-loaded and ready to go.
It wouldn't even be an afterthought.
But if you ask them, for instance, what their plan would be to help the white working class, for instance, and you're likely to be escorted out of that town hall by security.
Why do you think that is?
And do you think that the day will ever come when elected Republicans will mention the name of the group that actually votes for them?
Well, it seems like there's a sort of a movement in that direction.
In fact, I know there's a movement in that direction.
And there's several different groups in the country that are starting to form that way to defend the core, the core culture and civilization that built the United States of America.
And they're less and less apologetic about this.
But I can tell you the pressure in Washington is just so utterly high.
And if you looked at what they attacked me for, because I had said in a New York Times, I was misquoted in the New York Times.
But even that quote, if you look at it and understand it, shouldn't have been anything that gave anybody any heartburn.
But I've been making this argument that...
Remind the audience what you said.
Remind them what you said.
Okay.
Yeah.
Well, what I was quoted as saying is that Westerns, oh, no, it was white nationalism, white supremacy.
Western civilization, how did that language become pejorative?
Why did I sit in the classroom hearing about the merits of Western civilization just to see it become a derogatory term today?
The last part didn't get quoted in the paper, but they conflated white nationalism and white supremacy with Western civilization and said that I had asked, how did those first two terms become pejorative?
No, I was defending Western civilization exactly.
And I'd done that before.
I had never even been quoted as using those other two terms.
We went back in the LexisNexis, the year 2000, and I had never even uttered white nationalism or white supremacy.
I didn't think in those terms, but I had defended Western civilization quoted 276 times in that same timeframe.
And they still decided that was all enough reason to eventually squeeze me out of Congress because, well, because they had other motives, and they set it up.
They set it up in advance.
And I knew they were going to trap that and unleash it.
I just didn't know what the trigger was.
And so that's all in my book, and it lays it out factually.
No one has challenged one word in that book for fact.
And the conclusions you can draw yourselves in there.
But that's what it was.
And so maybe I should take you back to another little incident here that really brought my attention to it.
Opening night of the 2016 Republican National Convention in Cleveland, I did a panel with MSNBC.
Chris Hayes is the moderator.
They had April Ryan, a black commentator there, and a fellow by the name of Charlie Pierce.
Well, we had our little banner going back and forth, and maybe it wasn't all that friendly.
I didn't notice it was bad.
And then at the end, at the end, Charlie Pierce said, one could be an optimist and hope that this would be the last Republican convention or any last Republican convention where old white people have anything to say about it.
And then so they were ready to cut away.
I couldn't let that go.
And I said, Charlie, that's getting kind of tired.
I'm tired of hearing that.
I'd invite you to explain to all of us what other subgroup has contributed more.
And Chris Hayes leaned over and leered at me and said, more than white people, thinking he had me trapped.
And I said, more than Western civilization itself, defined by everywhere where the footprint of Jesus Christ laid the foundation for civilization.
And that targeted me in 2016 as a white supremacist and a white nationalist.
Yeah, you don't have to earn it anymore.
Basically, being born white will do it for you.
And I wrote a book about that in 2010.
And it was ahead of its time, I think.
But it's anyway.
Well, I mean, wow, where to go from here with only about a minute remaining?
I will try to work some of this in.
I want to talk to you in the next segment about where you're going from here personally.
Obviously, folks, get the book at SteveKing.com.
Well, first, I think very quickly, I'm just speaking, I don't want to give anybody the kiss of death here, but just speaking from my seat as a commentator, I like what I'm seeing out of Marjorie Taylor Greene, Paul Gozer, maybe Josh Hawley.
Who are some of the people in Congress that we should be watching?
Who are some of the people that, you know what?
There's something there, in your opinion.
Well, I think you've named several good ones.
I'd add Andy Biggs to that.
And let me see.
And it'd be solid.
People that are kind of client back behind there a little bit.
Andy Harris from Maryland.
He's a solid principled conservative.
Matt Gates is a flamboyant, but he is strong and bold.
We need strong and bold people, and I hope Lauren Boebert doesn't get weaker here after her close race.
So some of the things I'm thinking about.
I'm glad she won.
Yeah, I was glad she squeaked that out.
I was watching that.
I was actually refreshing that one all the way through.
It came down to like just the last couple of hundred votes.
But anyway, hey, folks, steveking.com.
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those Christmas kinks, the breaks on these Christmas songs.
That was that.
That was my fault.
But anyway, it makes me feel better just to hear a snippet of Carol of the Bells there.
Back with Congressman King, and I want to talk with him about his plans for the future.
Now looking forward.
But first, I want to make mention of this because I think we should.
Coming up next in the following hour, the next hour, as soon as you're clear tonight, Steve, is Peter Brimelow, the editor of V-Dair, former editor Forbes, author of Alien Nation, Common Sense About America's Immigration Disaster, best-selling book some years ago.
You were the keynote speaker at Jared Taylor's American Renaissance Conference just last week.
Actually, as we sit here tonight, a week ago at this time, you were there.
Now, Both of these gentlemen are gentlemen and scholars and friends of mine, longtime friends, in fact.
Now, not very long ago, you would routinely see men like Peter and Jared and even me on occasion on a featured on primetime cable news programming.
But now, of course, the media has libeled and slandered people like that and like us as white supremacists and so on.
And so that's that.
And that's fine.
I expect that out of our wholly dishonest and criminally corrupt media.
But what concerns me is that establishment conservative voices are allowing their enemies and ours to dictate the terms of whom they can associate with and speak to.
Now, at some point, I think public figures will have to be able to speak with such advocates without fear of what so-called journalists think about it.
Now, I guess you agree with that because you were there last week.
And what led you to make that decision to speak at American Renaissance?
Well, I think that we need to lend voice to the values and the principles that at least the ones that I voice there.
And I've just now, I've had this attitude for a long, long time.
I've been a strong, strong advocate for freedom of speech.
And when I see people's freedom of speech curtailed because the other people disagree with it, and then they organize to muzzle them, that says that's not what made America.
It's got to be a robust, some competitive freedom of speech.
And so if I go in there, I gave a, it was supposed to be, I think, a 30-minute speech and 15-minute Q ⁇ A, and I got kind of carried away and didn't sit down for an hour and 15 minutes.
And I only saw Jared look at his watch once.
But anyway, I was having fun and they were paying attention.
But I think the sport is this, that give people a perspective, tell them what you believe in, let them sort out what they hear, come to their own conclusions, and then conduct themselves accordingly.
Why should we fear speech?
Why should we try to muzzle someone who says, I have a European heritage, and look at all the things we brought with us over here.
Look at the things we developed once we got here.
What's wrong with any of this?
And I don't happen to believe there's a reason why anyone of a different race or ethnicity can't embrace Western civilization and succeed within the parameters that have been set up by it.
Free enterprise, freedom of religion, free speech, the press, assembly, keeping bare arms, all the way down the line, the pillars of American exceptionalism are accessible to everyone.
And when you muzzle people like Peter Brimlow or Jared Taylor or Steve King or James Edwards or anyone else out there, what you're saying is you don't have confidence that your ideology can come.
That's right.
And so that's, I've been, actually, I want to just go off on a little sidewind here because when I heard the commercial in the earlier part of the segment for DixieRepublic.com, it made me think of a freedom of speech that I dove into as a Yankee.
I probably have to apologize talking into your listeners, but I can't help where I was born.
Anyway, I was walking through my office one day and there was a debate going on on big screen.
I always kept that on on the floor.
And I didn't take time to listen.
I just turned to my staff and said, what are they debating down there?
And they said, well, they're debating amendments that Democrats are bringing to take the Confederate, I'll say, battle flag, to keep it correct, down anywhere where it happens to have a federal wall or a federal nexus.
And they keep bringing amendments and debating it.
And so I just listened to maybe 30 seconds of that.
Then I realized what was going on.
I ran out, went down the elevator to the tunnel.
I ran through the tunnel over the Capitol up onto the floor and commanded the floor.
I got recognized to speak.
I was puffing probably through the whole five minutes, but I made this argument that that battle flag is about southern pride.
It's not about advocating for slavery.
It's about southern pride.
And if you go to Google and Google in Southern pride, by the time you get the barbecue out of the way, it's all battle flags after that.
And if you Google slavery and hit images, you get about seven or eight pages of black and white slaves picking cotton and doing things.
There's not one battle flag in the whole thing.
It never, it didn't, in the modern era, at least since the end of the Civil War, it did not mean an advocacy for slavery.
It meant southern pride.
And so they're tearing that all down.
Now they've turned it into a verboten symbol that NASCAR.
Bubba Wallace got it taken down from NASCAR.
You can't fly the battle flag at NASCAR anymore.
And they're crushing Southern pride.
And I also, I want to give credit what happened at Appomattox when Lee and Grant negotiated the surrender.
Lee asked Grant, these boys need to keep their arms and they need to keep their horses.
They own their horses.
They need to go home and farm.
And Grant said they can keep the horses, tell them to stack their arms.
The officers can keep their sidearms.
And when that was announced, that there was, I'll say, I'll call it a surrender of peace, a Republican, or excuse me, a Union regiment fired off a volley in celebration, and Grant shut that down immediately.
And he said, that's not the way to celebrate.
From this day forward, these rebels are our countrymen.
And that meant they got to keep their southern pride and their horses.
And the officers kept their sidearms, and they became countrymen at that moment.
And by the way, put more troops that was a percentage of their population in the front lines of subsequent wars than any other region in the country.
So I made that argument to them.
I lost, but I put a Confederate flag on my desk as a symbol of freedom of speech.
I saw it.
I respect for Southern pride.
Okay.
You know what?
I told you on the phone that you probably wouldn't have remembered it.
It was just a short thing, but I bumped into you at Radio Row at the Republican National Convention in 2016, and I thanked you for your comments on Western civilization.
And I actually had just done a Google search, and I saw that flag on your desk.
I saw that flag on your desk.
And let me tell you something, brother.
Speaking from a man who descended from those brave soldiers, the descendant, a son of Confederate veterans, I guess would be the way to put it.
I had ancestors that fought at Shiloh.
And let me, we weren't the privileged ones.
I can tell you that.
I joke that I descended from the only private in the Confederate Army.
But every time you hear somebody talking about their ancestry in the South, it's a general or a lieutenant colonel or something.
But no, I descended from privates, but I am proud of them.
I am proud of that patrimony.
And I will never dishonor them.
And so I appreciate, I didn't intend to get into that with you tonight, but I appreciate you bringing it up.
I appreciate it.
And my DNA appreciates it as well because it is something to be proud of.
Anybody that's willing to fight and die for something, and they weren't fighting and die, I can guarantee you my pauper ancestors weren't fighting to die for slaves that they didn't own.
So that's right.
Thank you again.
By the way, the poorer you were, the less you wanted slaves competing against you for the value of labor.
That's absolutely right.
Well, we could do an entire hour about that.
And I have a feeling, I hope at least that you will return for an Encore appearance.
Let me ask you this very quickly.
Boy, I don't know if we have the time.
Let's just go to this.
And if we have time, we'll double back.
I want to talk to you about the future.
So you spent so many years in Congress and in fighting the good fight.
And now here we are looking forward to the future.
By the way, we mentioned this a couple of times.
Great talk on the phone a couple of days ago with Congressman King.
Talked about family and background, even a Pat Buchanan connection.
We talked about that a little bit.
So what's next for Steve King?
And what ways might you be able to serve that higher calling to which you answered to as a congressman?
And as opposed to sitting in Congress, what may you be able to do now?
You still have connections and power and influence that most do not.
And with regards to the restoration, look, we're talking about Christmas, the birth of Jesus Christ, the restoration and preservation of Western Christian civilization.
I like what I hear from Victor Orban, for instance.
What kind of coalition can be made there for the future of nationalism and Christian-oriented nationalism?
And what are you going to be doing?
James, we do have a lot to talk about.
And you mentioned Victor Orban.
I call him the gold standard of Western civilization.
He knows what he's doing.
He's methodically protecting the Western civilization within Hungary and influencing outside of there.
I met with him for two hours and 40 minutes back in about 2015 or 16, and it was fascinating.
But I also went through Europe and I met with the patriotic party leaders that have sprung up across there since the left had pushed so hard in the European Union.
And I won't go through those names now because the time's short, but I was laying the foundation to build an international organization to restore Western civilization for the world.
And we were very close to announcing it and launching it when this ambush came in on me and more or less destroyed my political capital and everything else I had going on.
So, but that's not, that part's not over.
We still need to do that.
The short version would be pulling all the countries in Western Europe, Eastern Europe that our Western civilization founded.
And then, of course, the United States, Canada, Oceania, Australia, New Zealand, and pull those countries all together with at least one representative that represents the civilization, the Western civilization, that means principled conservative patriots.
And each one of these countries needs to have their own identity.
They have their own language.
Let them go ahead and hold all that identity, but pull together under the larger umbrella of Western civilization.
And then with all of that, build, I wanted to put up a national organization and start it, or excuse me, an international organization that's founded and planted in Vienna, where we turned the Turks back in 1529 and in 1683 and saved Western civilization and then grow from there.
But a university that's dedicated to gathering all the history, all the knowledge base, the intelligence and the study of it all, and then be able to exchange students and teachers, instructors back and forth and plant these cells in acceptable universities around Western civilization so that we have a knowledge base that's proud of what's been accomplished and will defend it with great vigor.
And that's what I'd like to do in the future.
I think we've got a chance to get it done.
It's going to take some work and money.
Hey, decades.
You have decades left in you, Steve King.
And folks, get the book.
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It makes a great gift.
A book fits very nicely in a stocking.
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