Oct. 8, 2022 - The Political Cesspool - James Edwards
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You're listening to the Liberty News Radio Network, and this is the political cesspool.
The Political Cesspool, known across the South and worldwide as the South's foremost populist conservative radio program.
And here to guide you through the murky waters of the political cesspool is your host, James Edwards.
Two heads are better than one, and that's what we are presenting to you this hour.
A very unique hour coming your way when we pair the great and good Dr. Virginia Abernathy with Sam Dixon.
Tandem interview and appearance tonight as these two intellectual heavyweights discuss our democracy.
The system media is capitalizing democracy with a capital D these days and matters pertaining to it.
Dr. Abernathy is, of course, emeritus professor of psychiatry and anthropology at Vanderbilt University School of Medicine.
She has an MBA from Vanderbilt and a PhD from Harvard University.
She is the author of several books, including her latest, The Vanishing American Dream.
Sam Dixon, one of our most popular and most interviewed guests, is a renowned orator and distinguished attorney who has represented many individuals and groups stigmatized and demonized by the system.
And I look forward to this pairing tonight.
This is going to be a tag team match to match anything that's with the WWF.
That's absolutely right.
These two, you can't go wrong.
So Dr. Abernathy, it was actually you who got the ball rolling on this particular installment.
What was your vision for the things we would cover this evening?
I suddenly realized that the people who are calling conservatives racist, anti-seminist, anti-Semite, and now they're calling us insurrectionists, that they are the tyrants.
We are not.
We're not the threat to democracy.
They are.
And I go back to Joe Biden's unbelievable speech in Philadelphia, the home of the Liberty Bill and so forth.
Joe Biden's unbelievable speech when he said, half of all Americans, all of you conservatives out there, are fascist.
But the people labeling us as unbelievable names are the ones who are the real threat to democracy.
And I know that Sam has all kinds of data on that.
And all I would say just in introduction to this is on several fronts, these people who are labeling us, they're the tyrannical ones.
They're the fascistic ones.
They're the totalitarian.
Totalitarian.
And I think we can use our discussion here tonight to document that.
Well, Sam, before I toss it over to you, I know one thing, Virginia, that you had emailed me about a couple of weeks ago when we started to really get the ball rolling on your next appearance on this program, and you're always such a welcome guest, was your concern over the never-ending hearings and now the trials.
There's trials going on now with regards to the January 6th, so-called insurrectionists.
That was really, I think, sort of the thing that was the base layer of this cake.
And I know certainly you have loaded Sam up and he's ready to go.
So Sam, where should we begin tonight with our democracy, the J6 hearings?
And you and I actually were talking about that just a moment before the program a couple hours ago.
Well, first I'd like to begin with about the Lady Abernathy.
I am president for life of the Virginia Abernathy Fan Club.
I think she's one of the most wonderful people in existence, and a nickname for her.
Too kind, too kind as always, Sam.
No, no, not kind enough.
My nickname for her is Bladicea, for the queen that led the British resistance to Rome.
So whose statue is in front of Parliament.
So anyway, I'm glad to be here with Bladysea.
Belladasea, I don't see quite eye to eye.
I'm much more radical than she is.
She's a genuine conservative, and I'm much more radical.
But I would say that, first of all, the civil liberties shouldn't be bracketed with democracy.
Our civil liberties were brought to us and defined in Old England by a system that was not democratic at all.
A system in which you had a monarch, you had an aristocracy, you had a House of Lords, and you had a House of Commons that was elected by about 10% of the middle population.
So when we talk about our democracy, we're really talking about a universal suffrage democracy, which Plato and all the founding fathers said would be ruinous, and I think it is ruinous.
And so I think the civil liberties violations are different from that.
I would say this, that we talk about, they claim we live in a representative democracy.
And I think Virginia would agree that we actually live in an unrepresentative democracy.
Don't you think we live in an unrepresentative democracy, Virginia?
Well, yes, I do certainly agree that the founding fathers wanted a republic, which would have been a representative system of government.
But instead, we have much more universal voting.
That was not the objective of the founding of the country at all.
But that's what we've got.
The original system before it was changed, I think, in an amendment to the Constitution in 1916, was that senators would be chosen by the individual state legislatures.
And that would have led to a quite different set of people in Washington than when that amendment, I think it was the 16th or 17th Amendment, came along and said that there would be popular vote for senators instead of the legislatures choosing them.
So go on with your statement, Sam.
Well, I think democracy is a tremendous threat to freedom.
When you start letting everybody vote, the unfortunate fact of the matter is that the mass man doesn't really care for things like freedom of religion or freedom of speech or freedom of the press.
Repeated studies have shown that when you go around and poll average people, they will say, oh, yes, I believe in freedom of speech.
But then when you start asking follow-up questions, should the Nazis be allowed to have a meeting?
Should the Communists be allowed to have one?
Should the Jehovah's Witnesses be allowed to go door to door?
A strong majority of people say, oh, I believe in freedom of speech, but I don't think Jehovah's Witnesses should be allowed to hand out pamphlets.
So once you get everybody voting, the system of restraints and of rights, historic rights, that originally applied only to a racial group, a racial and national group, people who live in the British Isles, they will be eroded and eventually destroyed by universal suffrage democracy.
And we see that personified in Joe Biden.
Biden's second debate with Trump was highly informative, and we should go that name.
Should always revisit that.
Anderson Cooper and National Public Radio are very careful.
They've never, never visited that.
But Biden was asked by some journalists who scrained off the reservation if he would ever prosecute Antifa for crimes.
And Biden replied, no, that his administration would never prosecute Antifa.
Well, I mean, that'd be like somebody saying, I'm not going to prosecute the Klan.
I mean, that was just a clear indication of Biden.
These are my bullies.
They're my thugs.
And I'm going to give them free reign to go after people out of the park.
And his quote.
They're my quotes.
Well, I have an even newer if we have time before this segment's over.
We don't have time before this segment is over.
The music is already playing.
Virginia, get ready.
Yes, get ready because we're coming right back to you as we continue this TPC tandem team up between game extravagance and Dr. Virginia Abernathy.
Stay tuned, everybody.
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And what a great start to it.
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We're talking with Sam Dixon and Dr. Virginia Abernathy about our democracy, quote unquote, and with a capital D no less, as the system is now actually capitalizing that word in articles now.
What is our democracy?
Who are the threats to it?
What is a democracy at all?
The proponents of it.
We'll continue to take down those questions as the hour continues.
But Virginia, you were about to make a point when we ran out of time just a moment ago.
I'd like to offer you the opportunity to pick up where we left off.
Sam had that wonderful example of Biden refusing to prosecute Black Lives Matter in ALTIFA.
Well, much more recent, in the place where it shouldn't be occurring, you all know that Liz Cheney is the Wyoming representative to Congress right now, and she just lost her primary to a woman who is very well qualified an attorney in Wyoming.
But Liz Cheney says that this, her opponent, should lose her law license, should be disbarred from practicing law in Wyoming because she said that the 2000 presidential election was rigged.
Well, I don't know if it was or not, but I do know that she had a perfect right to say it, and there's some evidence in her support.
And it's a threat to free speech.
And a threat to free speech is one of the things that we support because we conservatives are the real protectors of democracy with a small D.
And I think Liz Cheney ever get elected a representative from Wyoming.
That's a whole nother conversation.
That's a good question, though.
Well, I'll tell you, it's a very closed system, and there's some very influential families in Wyoming, and the Cheney family is one of them.
After all, Vice President Cheney helped to get us into that ruinous war in the Middle East.
But I'm getting off the subject.
You get back to it.
Yes.
Okay, so, Sam, listen, how would what Dr. Abernathy just shared with our audience have fit in on that national public radio broadcast you were tuned into during your drive when we spoke earlier?
Sam had an interview between a woman named Nina Jankowitz or Jankowitz.
And this woman was nominated to be head of the National Homeland Security Disinformation Government Board.
And it was just a love-in, of course, with her and the journalista.
But it was like something from George Orwell.
She said that she talked about how she had been victimized and attacked by right-wing extremists, and she had all kinds of death threats.
Well, you know, that's a lie.
If she had death threats on the internet, the government would be prosecuting them.
There'd be nothing that would delight Biden more than to arrest people who made death threats on her.
That's just a lie.
But the best part was it was all double think, like what we'll talk about might be before.
She said that she was upset about the possibility of Musk buying Twitter because she said he's a so-called free speech advocate.
And if he takes over Musk, it will actually diminish free speech because it will lead to the intimidation of historically underserved communities like blacks, gays, and women who will be afraid to speak because people will be criticizing them.
And so the way to get real freedom of speech is to shut people up.
It was just one double think thing like that after another.
It was incredible.
We never intended to violate the First Amendment and control what people said.
We just intended to direct the removal from the internet of people who are haters.
Double talk.
Double talk the whole way.
And of course, the journalist knows it's all a pack of lies, but she, like everybody else who works at NPR, is signed up for the life movement.
All right.
Virginia, before you answer, I want to interject this because I sent this to both of you, and I believe you liked it.
And this is a definition of our democracy.
What is our democracy?
Who are its proponents?
Who are its enemies?
Who are the threats to it?
This is how our friend over at Occidental Descent defines democracy.
Generally speaking, he writes, our democracy is white people with college degrees who live in metropolitan areas on the coasts, who tend to have professional class jobs, who do not believe in God, who are liberals or progressives in their politics.
These people are synonymous with democracy, with the capital D. Their faction.
Their political faction is democracy.
The rest of us here are to be ruled by them.
And you mentioned Liz Cheney just a moment ago, Virginia.
When Donald Trump won the election in 2016, that was not democracy.
He conspired with the Russians, they told us.
He was an illegitimate president.
When Liz Cheney lost her primary in a landslide in Wyoming just a few weeks ago, that wasn't democracy either.
When Georgia tightened its election laws, that was an attack on democracy.
When the Supreme Court struck down Roe versus Wade because liberals lost too many presidential incentive elections, that was not democracy either.
Our democracy is progressive activists and establishment liberals who are around 19% of the American population.
And extremism is any deviation from their views, no matter how popular or widespread these beliefs are in the other 80% of the country.
See, we lynnheads need to be kept under control by the PMC's professional managerial class.
So your response to that and what you heard from Sam, Dr. Abernathy, take it away.
Well, this is, of course, their rationale that we are out to destroy democracy because we're the 80% that definitely wants to challenge that highly educated 20%.
So I think I completely agree with what you read by Brad Griffin.
And I'm pleased that in one part of what he wrote, he said that these, quote, people who identify themselves as democracy, that they're the ones who launched us into unprovoked foreign wars.
And that's exactly what they've done.
And I'm very afraid now of what the recent thing they've launched us into, which is this Ukrainian thing.
And I don't think a whole lot of Americans are in favor of the billions of dollars that have been sent over there now.
We can use that money at home, and we certainly don't need to be supporting Ukraine in this war, which in which Russia definitely was provoked by Biden.
I think it's important to remember that no action of this type began when Trump was president.
North Korea was under control.
Did you notice, though, that Elizabeth, I mean, Virginia, excuse me.
I keep trying to tell you what.
Well, she's a queen either way you say.
Yeah, right.
She's a queen, that's for sure.
The neocons and the our democracy PMCs all have interventionist tendencies.
And if you are not an interventionist, you're an isolationist.
You're to be put down.
When you have your country at war, you have many more opportunities to rule everybody in your own country in the interest of fighting this war.
Another example, though, that shows their tyrannical impulse was what happened during the COVID-19 so-called epidemic.
And early on, there were hints after the vaccine came out, after the vaccine came out, there were hints that this vaccine was having dreadful side effects, including things like myocarditis for young, healthy males.
Some of them an enormous, unusually large number of athletes dropping dead, for example.
And that these vaccines might have other very serious consequences.
But that information was suppressed.
So that was our own CDC, Centers for Disease Control, suppressing information about the dangers of the vaccine at the same time that they were demanding that everybody take a vaccine, including people who'd worked bravely with people ill with COVID-19 before there was a vaccine.
And now it's being demanded that even these people get vaccinations, even against their will.
And if they did not, they would be fired.
Now, that is an example to me of tyranny.
And that is what they are trying to impose on us in one realm after another.
Well, this is something, Virginia, that was actually mentioned in that last definition.
We'll give Sam the last couple of seconds this segment.
We'll come right back to him at the top of the next segment.
But, well, the music's already playing now.
We'll come right back to Sam Dixon after this.
But democracy, it's only democracy when that 19% gets its way.
Everything they do, like spying on us, censoring us, censoring their opponents, arresting them.
What you were just mentioning, be reasonable, do it our way.
Yeah, that's right.
That's right.
Be reasonable, do it our way.
Only democracy only works when they get their way over the rest of us, the majority, in fact.
We'll be right back.
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Two all-time pillars of this program, true mainstays they are, Dr. Virginia Abernathy and Sam Dixon, Esquire, talking to us about our democracy.
I want to give you just two quick pieces of program trivia and program history before we toss it back to Sam.
You know, we went on the air for the first time in October of 2004.
So a little bit later this month, it'll be our 18th year on the air, 18th anniversary.
But it wasn't until the spring of 2005 that we first introduced broadcast archives.
For those first few months, if you didn't listen live, you didn't catch the show.
And then we implemented the broadcast archives.
And the very first guest who ever appeared on a show that was archived was Virginia Abernathy, who I go back all the way to 2000 and the Buchanan campaign with.
And I have known her, and she has been near and dear to me for a long, long time.
I actually had the opportunity to break bread or break quiche in her home not too terribly long ago in Virginia.
I'll always remember the day.
It was a mean cook on top of everything else you know and love her for.
I had a great time at her home a few months ago.
But we'll get back to that in a moment.
First, let's go back to Sam Dixon.
So, Sam, we're talking about our democracy.
I am looking at your notes right now.
Items you had listed regarding our democracy.
You wrote, you won't have time to cover them in depth, but perhaps a rapid fire session.
So many things.
Let's just quickly name a couple of things that have been done.
Let's just move directly into the thing.
First off, I've already mentioned Biden seeking to be the chief magistrate of the Republic of the government, the executive branch that enforces the law, promising the American people that he would never prosecute political thugs that were on his side in the Antifa for attacking his opponents.
I mean, that's unprecedented.
How do these people talk about democracy?
They've got a president they all love who's up there saying, I'm going to give these people free reign.
Then you've got his history.
Biden presided over the largest violation of the Bill of Rights in American history, where the government was intercepting every email that any American citizen sent or received.
That Biden was involved in that.
And these people went before the American people in their Congress and lied and denied the program existed because they knew it was a criminal act.
Ed Snowden revealed the truth.
Biden personally undertook the pursuit of Snowden and called the nations all over the world threatening sanctions against them if they didn't seize him and bring him back so that the whistleblower could be sent to jail.
Biden and Obama never prosecuted a single person who implemented this unlawful program, this criminal program.
They never prosecuted anybody that perjury.
The only man they wanted to prosecute was the guy that told the American people what they were up to.
And it just goes on and on and on.
You got this, the politicization of the FBI.
You've got the FBI going around and pressuring news outlets and social media, not to mention the Hunter Biden laptop right before the election, because the FBI, which is just a totally corrupt and political group of political cops and thugs, didn't want an issue that would hurt their candidate, the FBI candidate for President Joe Biden.
And we know now that the Hunter Biden laptop was legitimate.
And we know that Biden lied to the American people in the second debate with Trump when he claimed it was Russian disinformation.
He knew it was legitimate.
He just coolly lied to every American voter in the country and national public radio and Anderson Cooper and all the others.
There's never been a follow-up question.
They like that lie.
They like to get their snouts in that trough because they smell it, they sniff it, and it smells like them.
It just goes on and on.
The insurrection, the prosecutor, the FBI has 2,800 people they want to indict because 140-something people got inside the Capitol, most of whom didn't do anything but pose for selfies.
If you applied that to the Black Lives Matter riot out in Dallas, when a Black Lives Matter advocate killed five cops, well, why aren't we trying to indict everybody that was at that Black Lives Matter thing?
The completely inconsistent stuff.
The crime escalation, the escalation of misdemeanors into felonies, like that Roman Catholic guy up in Pennsylvania recently, who got in a shoving match at some sort of a rival person over the abortion issue.
He's now being prosecuted for a felony for a shoving match.
And the armed FBI invades his house and frightens and pushes around his 10-year-old son.
Is this make you proud to be an American?
Make you like the FBI?
You're a juror.
The general said all animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others.
Oh, it just goes on and on and on.
The same thing, they did the same thing to General Flynn.
This business of the lawfare, they call it, these 19% you were talking about.
In the legal community, they call it lawfare, the use of lawsuits and law to intimidate people, like at Charlottesville, to sue people who didn't know each other, who had never conspired.
But with a system judge, the jury was told, you can be a member of a conspiracy and not know it.
You can be a conspiracy and not ever intend to be.
Mere physical presence make you a member of a conspiracy.
And if you go to a meeting and somebody gets into a fight with somebody, you can be in a conspiracy.
You can be sued.
If that's really the law, no prudent man in America, a woman either, would ever go to any political meeting.
You could say, you know, we went to law school, Sam, and learned about Scientor in criminal cases.
Apparently, that is obsolete now.
The law sits in this country is so bad.
The American people can't even begin to get their minds around how bad it is.
We could say we're afraid of being, I mean, we are being intimidated now in many, many respects.
These SWAT teams make the news sometimes, but there's ever so much more that you know about that we don't, most people don't know about.
I certainly don't.
It's unbelievable.
But we are being intimidated so that we are afraid to talk, we're afraid to act.
That is tyranny.
Is that our democracy?
I mean, that comes back to the theme of this hour.
And Virginia had asked, you know, of course, every time she appears, she appears in her own right, and rightly so.
But for this particular show, in this particular topic, she asked that we have some lawyers on.
And so we've got two.
We've got Sam.
We have Sam.
And Keith.
And Keith as well.
So we've got two here.
But the thing is, I mean, Sam just rattled off a litany of examples.
And Sam said we could talk for hours about this.
Virginia, I believe you made the comment that we could have had an entire weekend conference about the content we wanted to jam into an hour of commercial talk radio.
We got about a minute or two left this segment, and then we'll try to bring it to summation.
It's all yours, dear lady.
The only reason I suggest a longer period is that the charges that are being made sound so unbelievable that it's got to be well documented.
And it takes time to document and say this was reported here, this was reported that.
We've got the videos to show Capitol police inviting the marchers into the Capitol.
We see them removing barriers, opening doors.
It takes time to document things.
Otherwise, it can be brushed off as these are just hysterical people talking.
And that's my main reason for saying you need a long time to talk about this so you can document and show, convincingly show, demonstrably prove that these charges are true.
True, we're being intimidated.
Free speech is being taken away from us because we're afraid to speak, because we're afraid to go to a political meeting, as Sam just said, because then we can be charged with conspiracy for having been in the same room, say, with a parent who protested how their children are being taught critical race theory.
So there is widespread intimidation.
I think that, to me, is one of the silent and damaging effects of tyranny.
Virginia, I will ask a question to Sam with just seconds remaining.
You said, can you get lawyers on your next program and the next to analyze these goings on at the J6 trials and to what lengths we should go to support the poor SADS, as you put it, who walked into the Capitol at the wrong time?
I'm going to pick back up on the free speech being intimidated.
But Sam, your answer to J6 very quickly.
I mean, you've covered it and it's been covered already this hour, but I think that's one thing we should end this segment on.
I'm sorry, I didn't understand.
You want to agend it on what?
Just your opinion on the J6, the January 6th, that these people.
It was the kind of thing that happens.
You have tens of thousands of people who are angry and they have a demonstration, and some of them go to the capital, and some of them break into the capital.
It's a minor thing.
It really is not a big deal.
Or as Virginia put it, invited in in some accounts.
How's that compared to what Bill Ayers did?
He bombed the Capitol and caused $200,000 worth of damage.
Not to mention Black Lives Matter, but as Virginia mentioned, who are we going to believe that the system or our lying eyes in regards to these doors being opened?
We'll be right back.
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All right.
Talking.
I think this ties in wonderfully to what Virginia was saying just a moment ago in that last segment about free speech being taken from us.
The intimidation that those who speak against the system's narrative.
There's criminal liability without scienter.
Okay, I think Sam would probably agree with that.
Do you, Sam?
Yeah, it needs to translate to Latin.
It means you can't commit a crime without the intent to commit a crime.
And, you know, the idea that you can be a member of a conspiracy and not know it and not intend it.
That actually has taken some criminal conspiracy law, and the feds now want to apply that to political meetings.
If you applied that to the new left when I was in college, they would have all been financially ruined and gone to jail, but it was never done then.
All we heard then was about their right to dissent.
But you don't hear that about us.
You can quote Vilfredo Pareto about that, can you not, Keith?
Yeah, Vilfredo Pardo said that when I'm weak, I ask you for equality and justice because those are your principles.
When I'm strong, I deny equality and justice to you because that is my principle.
That's where we're at.
That's the double standard.
I want to say one more thing.
Go ahead, Sam.
That's a very profound point, Keith.
At least another point that I think Virginia will probably disagree with me on.
And that is, I don't think you can live in the same country.
with people who are doing this.
I don't think we can live in the same country as the FBI agents.
I think we need a different country, and they need a different country.
I don't think we can live in the same country with the Cheneys and Pelosi and Joe Biden or the staff of National Public Radio.
If we were to somehow win an election, which I don't think we can do in America anymore from progressive demographics, but if we could, it would just be a short period of time for these people to be back and they'd be pursuing these oppressive measures.
You know, we cannot deal with these people.
But if we do deal with them, I feel they have chosen the rules.
And if we ever get an inning at that, I think they need to be dealt with in their own currency.
They have chosen the rules.
This is something I shared a story a moment ago.
We'll get Virginia's response to this, and then I've got to read something to Virginia, sort of a segue.
But yes, Sam, you and I have talked about this, and I agree, but I am willing to have someone offer a voice of dissent.
Virginia, can there be a reconciliation?
Can all of us come under one tent going forward?
Or is that secession in the wind?
Is that long gone?
Hey, I'm not for reconciliation.
I'm for fighting.
Deborah.
But somehow I want to stay in the country.
I've got to stay in the country to fight, haven't I?
I mean, so in that sense, the country is big enough for all of us because you have to stay here to fight.
That's right.
That's right.
You need to go back to the articles and come back.
That's a good answer.
I want to say one more thing about Sam Dixon, though, in terms of his biography.
And it's been fast-paced and frontic this hour, but Sam was one of the earliest advocates of the creation of an ethno-state for white Christian Europeans on the North American continent.
And if you want to know why I bow every time I find Sam at any of these events on this movement, so to speak, speaking circuit, it's because his paternal cousin, Dushka Pickens, was the daughter of the governor of South Carolina who lit the fuse for the first cannon shot at Fort Sumter.
So royalty indeed.
We have Boadicea and Sam Dixon.
Cousin Dushka did other.
I'm not in favor of all of this anti-Yankee stuff either.
That's fine.
It was a brothers' war.
And if you're going to talk about Dushka Pickens, I'm more like to talk and think about when she led General Hampton out into the amphitheater to start the campaign to overthrow the Reconstruction government in 1878.
Redeemers.
Outlawed the playing of Dixie is against the law under the Reconstruction government.
And she rode out in the nighttime torchlight rally.
She rode out on the colossal white stallion and she unfurled a huge Confederate flag and waved it at the Yankees.
And the bands broke out in Dixie.
And that was the beginning of the thing to re-restore native rule to South Carolina.
I wish I'd have been there for that moment in your ancestors.
They've banned playing a Dixie down at Old Moose Now.
I wish I'd have been there then, though.
Listen, all of this ties into what I want to ask Virginia about right now, her opinion on this.
So, Sam, you and I became privy.
I saw it in the news.
I passed it along to you.
And this is a situation that happened in South Carolina just this last week.
So it's a situation at Furman University.
I don't know if you know Virginia, but a tenured professor there, apparently he's been there for 23 years.
He's been placed on leave because it was just discovered that he went to Charlottesville five years ago.
They just found out about that.
So the university is bringing in mental health professionals for all of the non-white students who have been traumatized to learn that a southern man might want to preserve a statue of Robert E. Lee.
Now, Sam had a great quote on this, and I'm scrolling down to find it.
And here it is.
Sam says, this is a sick case.
All of this stuff about minority students being able to seek help and counseling because they will be so distraught to find that someone at the school attended a rally to keep Lee's statue in place.
It's a cliche, but you could not invent a people or a country as ludicrously sick as this.
And so this, I think, you would have an expert opinion on Virginia.
And the question is: as someone who has paid a price for her beliefs as a tenured professor at Vanderbilt University, the Ivy League of the South, what advice could you offer this professor?
And what would you say about this intimidation of freedom of speech and association that has been taken from us as it is applied on college campuses?
Yes, the college campuses are talking about microaggressions.
Micro.
That means infinitesimal, small, unseeable, practically.
Microaggressions against people whose feelings might get hurt by the wrong pronoun, for example.
It is so ludicrous.
My mother had the answer to this.
She always said sticks and stones will break my bones, but words will never harm me.
Now, I'd like people to pull up their socks or whatever the proper metaphor is and just toughen up a little bit.
Where your big boy pants.
Yeah, that's the word.
That's the phrase.
And I'd like, I think this whole business of microaggressions and people getting their feelings for it is so idiotic.
The whole country is being weakened by it.
The whole country is becoming infantilized.
So really, if we all get together, it should be easy to beat these people who love victimization.
I mean, if they're all victims, they must be weak as all get out.
Sam, I know you want to respond.
They never are concerned about our feelings.
They insult white Christian Americans non-stop 24-7, you know, day after day after day.
They attack us.
They have programme teachers teach whole courses about misrepresenting us and attacking us and degrading us.
But the slightest thing that they themselves are so privileged, they're entitled to psychiatric treatment.
The thing that I was telling you about was the state, the president of Furman University issued a statement.
At the end of her statement, she listed a quite long list of groups to which women and gays and the usual victim clubs, they could go to seek professional help and therapy to cope with their distress at finding out that one professor at this huge university actually went to a demonstration to save a lease statue.
This may never be, they may never be able to function in life.
They're so crazy.
They just cannot win a debate.
And it's far down to the Furman University is in Greenville, South Carolina, which is a very red county and a lot of southern sympathizers there.
And so this is it, Sam, in Virginia.
I mean, I guess last question, our democracy, freedom of speech, freedom of association, who's for it, who's against it, who's really eroding the foundation of capital D or lower D democracy, whatever it is, this thing, this professor went, Robert E. Lee, in my opinion, and this is just my opinion, he was the greatest American in terms of duty and honor and sacrifice.
He was the greatest American.
I don't get, if somebody wants to go to a meeting to praise God knows who, who was that guy that killed all the people, the Muslim down in Florida, they killed all the people at the gay bar.
If somebody wants to go to a Muslim meeting and celebrate him, it would run off my back like water off a duck.
That's right.
Good point.
I would have to go to a therapist to him because I was so upset that somebody went to a meeting and honored that Muslim.
It's just ludicrous.
But in the so-called insurrection, there was no Cromwell or no Charles de Gaulle in the U.S. Senate or the House of Representatives.
What did they do when these people were outside demonstrating?
They ran.
They fled.
None of them went out and confronted the people.
Cromwell would have been out in their faces.
De Gaulle would have been out in their face.
Not them.
They all ran.
And then one of them, there's a black Democratic congressman from Mississippi who's actually filed a civil lawsuit because of his post-traumatic stress syndrome.
He just may never be able to recover.
He's just so distraught.
He'll be in therapy forever.
He's over.
He has to log in.
He can't win a debate.
That's the final question, Virginia, with seconds remaining.
And what a team-up it has been between you two.
We've got to do this more often.
But Virginia, you have spent a lifetime on campus as a professor.
These are supposed to be the leaders of tomorrow.
They give them sidewalk chalk and let them go out and express their feelings.
They're bringing in psychiatric help for a man who went to preserve a Lee statue.
Heaven help her.
I mean, are these the people that are going to lead tomorrow?
I don't know, but I'll leave today.
The country is being weakened by this.
The whole country is weak.
It's getting weaker from this.
It's a sad, sad thing.
Hey, listen.
Well, I'll tell you what.
I'm glad there is a remnant and a strong remnant and a faithful remnant, but a strong remnant, strong in body and spirit and in mind.