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Aug. 20, 2022 - The Political Cesspool - James Edwards
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You're listening to the Liberty News Radio Network, and this is the Political Cesspool.
The Political Cesspool, going across the South and worldwide as the South's foremost populist conservative radio program.
And here to guide you through the murky waters of the Political Cesspool is your host, James Edwards.
All day long, they work so hard until the sun is going down.
Working on the highways and byways, everywhere, wearing a frown.
You hear them moaning their lives away.
Then you hear somebody say, That's the sound of the men working on the chain.
Yay!
That's the sound of the men working on the chain.
Gay.
Can't you hear them saying it?
I'm the way.
Well, ladies and gentlemen, sometimes the life in service of a cause can feel like that, except far from having a frown and a moan, a frown on our face and a moan in our voice, we have done it all with a smile and a skip in our step.
And so many of the people we feature on this program are lifers, people who have done this longer than me.
And from time to time, we have people who are newcomers, and it's always great to have first-time guests and people who are just getting active and involved.
But I got another real hero of mine, one of my dearest and closest friends in all of life, and that is Sam Bushman, as you know, is the owner of the Liberty News Radio Network that syndicates TPC, host of the Liberty Roundtable program Monday through Saturday here on this network.
And I just had the opportunity to sit down with Sam earlier this week for another appearance on his wonderful broadcast.
We're excited about the fact we've been on the air 18 years.
Last year was Sam's 25th anniversary.
And Sam, first of all, welcome back.
And you look back on it all, your life's work, the life's work of the people that you interview and the people that you work with and you talk to.
And this man is truly on the road, making connections and making things happen all the time.
I can't even, I get exhausted just hearing where Sam has been and what he does on a week-to-week and month-to-month basis.
But do you see it now really beginning to bear fruit in ways that it hadn't quite done earlier in our lives?
You know, I see that things are changing rapidly in America.
I'll tell you what right now, and people are waking up like never before.
You know, more people have woken up in the last two, three years, or even the last five years, more than the first 20 plus that I've been involved on the radio.
And before that, in politics, et cetera.
I've been in politics over 30 years.
And I'm telling you right now, there is an absolute awakening.
Now, let's be clear, because the woke people who are socialism, whatever you want to call it, socialism identified or communism identified, they're woke in a different way than I'm talking about being awake.
And the problem is they're so good at stealing all the words that relate to things.
But more people are in the know and are concerned and are aware that we're losing the culture war, that government's flat out gone rogue and criminal, et cetera, than ever before.
People understand this.
You know, it used to be when I used to bring up something, somebody would go, you're nuts, you're crazy.
Are you kidding me?
You really believe or think that?
And now they're going, how did you know?
And Sam, what's coming up next?
And now I become the source of credibility and stability for these people because they're just going, wow, how right you were.
You know, you were a man before your time in a way.
And my response is, no, I just understood it before you guys did because it didn't affect you.
For example, you know, they'd call a racist a racist.
Well, that was really maybe somebody who does hate other races.
But now everybody's a racist.
I mean, you wake up in the morning and you're white and you're a racist.
You didn't do anything.
You didn't even breathe.
You didn't even get out of bed.
You're just a racist because you are, right?
It's so inherent, so native.
In fact, if you deny it, it just proves how true it really is.
They lie, right?
So, and people are starting to cognitively understand that and go, hold on, something isn't adding up here.
And that's where we find ourselves, James, to answer your question.
Well, I agree, and you've been a big part of it, Sam.
And of course, with regards to our development and whatever good we've been able to provide to anybody tuned in tonight, thank Sam Bushman first.
And that's just a fact.
So anyway, that's not even what I wanted to say.
But I'm okay wanting to grow the white race.
I'm white, and why wouldn't I want to grow my own race?
That's why I have eight kids.
Yeah, but you're a racist for that, and you know that.
In fact, that's one of the things.
Hey, there you go.
And that's where the buck stops.
And if everybody adopts that mentality, then we'll reach true equality.
Call me whatever you will.
Was Jesus a racist?
Because, hey, just put me in that camp, please.
Heroes are renegades in my mind.
Well, that's right.
Well, I'll tell you, one of those renegades had a pretty good week.
We have been talking about so much good news in recent months.
And there was another bit of it that you covered expertly.
I believe it was on your Tuesday broadcast.
And it concerns Roy Moore.
Everybody remembers Judge Roy Moore, the former Chief Justice of the Alabama State Supreme Court, the man who would have been undoubtedly a United States senator had it not been for this unprecedented, truly unprecedented media smear that likened him to a pedophile.
And one pack actually went so far as to run an ad, a campaign ad that aided in his defeat, suggesting that he had actually been banned from the Gadsden Mall in Gadsden, Alabama for preying on young girls.
Well, he took them to court, and something happened this week that you might not have expected.
You know, it's fascinating to me how they can just lie with impunity.
When did this all take place?
Think about this.
When did this all take place?
When did he run?
Was it 2016?
Yeah, it was 2016.
Yeah, I thought that was a rhetorical question.
Yeah.
But what they're saying happened would have happened back in, I guess, the 50s or 60s.
Right, right, right.
So here's what I'm saying, though.
Something they claim happens in the 50s.
It's 2015, 1-5, because in 2016 was the election, right?
Yeah, but those stars came out, obviously.
Well, it was actually a special election.
It was a special election that was actually in 2017 when those ads would have run.
So in 2017, so you're talking about five long years.
What about a speedy trial, ladies and gentlemen?
What about due process of law?
What about innocent until proven guilty?
These allegations have taken him five years to prove he was right and they were wrong.
However, they literally stole an election over it.
If you want proof of election fraud, ladies and gentlemen, they run around and say, you know, we make these allegations of election fraud without evidence or without proof or what.
Hey, how much proof you need to know?
He was right.
They lied.
They knew that he didn't go to the mall and sexually harassed children or sexually, you know, prey on little girls and everything.
They knew that it wasn't true.
But they also knew they could win election if they perpetuate the lie.
Did you know the very same thing happened to Richard Mack?
Talk about it.
Richard Mack was running for office and they claimed he went after little girls too.
After the election that he lost, they had no evidence, no information.
They had no documentation to assert their claims.
But what are you going to do about it?
Now, the reason that Roy Moore can do something is because he's an attorney, number one.
His wife's an attorney, number two.
But guys like Richard Mack or me or you or anybody else, hey, unless we have a ton of money, as you wisely know, James, how do you fight that battle?
Even if you fight it, you're likely to lose because the judges are corrupt.
Now, I'm grateful we got a win here, but think about five years.
Yes, 8.2 million is a pretty good win if they ever pay him.
But in the end of the day, you know what?
They literally committed election fraud over that.
What's election fraud?
When you literally make allegations against a candidate that is flat out not true and it's libel, proven in court nature, you have tampered with an election.
Where's the accountability for that, James?
That's what we'll get to when we come back.
So good news: Roy Moore has prevailed in court.
He would have been a United States Senator if things like this didn't derail.
And make no mistake about it.
This is what cost him.
It was these allegations, okay?
We'll be back.
He won an $8 million judgment just this week.
Stay tuned.
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Back with the great and the legendary Sam Bushman, and we're talking now about Roy Moore.
So Roy Moore would have been a United States Senator had it not been for all of the dirty tricks and the media lies and smears.
But in this one case in particular, even though many had alleged possible, it was completely fabricated and made up.
Know for for the 50 60, 70 years from the time that these events supposedly occurred up until the time when Roy Moore ran for for office, none of these women ever said anything.
Nobody had ever heard anything about this until he ran and then, after he lost, it all went away okay.
So you know it was bogus, you know it was.
It was BS.
But one pack that existed.
I guess to help the Democrat, Doug Jones could add a Christ-centered constitutionalist like Roy Moore in there representing the people of Alabama, a natural fit.
And he did win a very contentious and contested Republican primary.
He was obviously on the track to win.
And then all of this came up with the girls.
And that stopped him.
But this one PAC went so far as to do something that was actually actionable.
And that was suggest that he was banned from the Gavsden Mall for actual crimes, not just whispers and smears.
But he was able to take him to court and take him to the cleaners.
Now, Sam, you were talking about it took five years, five years from the time that this ad ran that derailed him from being a United States senator to the time that he got this $8 million judgment.
Now, we don't know anything about if he's going to, it's not like he sued Exxon where they're just going to pay the $8 million and they're never going to miss it.
This pack could declare bankruptcy.
He might not ever get a dime.
And even if he got the full $8 million, it's hard to imagine that that is recompense for not being a United States senator.
I mean, that's one of the most prestigious and powerful offices in the world, and he deserved it.
So this doesn't make that right.
However, you got to understand the timing of this, Sam.
What makes it so interesting, I think, to us is this came right on the heels of what I went to court for in 2016 in my libel case.
So the media was so emboldened around this time, 2016, 2017.
We'll call you the leader of the Ku Klux Klan if we want to.
We'll call you a child molester if we want to, and there's nothing you can do about it.
Well, I wish my case had been decided in an Alabama court instead of Michigan.
I might not would have won, but Roy Moore did, and I'm happy for him.
And I hope, I hope that this will have a chilling effect on the next outlandish libel and slander and defamation that they may have for a dissident voice.
I don't know how to respond, James.
To me, this is so egregious.
They claim that we have no evidence of election fraud.
They claim that we have no evidence for literally anything we say.
We say, hey, the COVID vaccination doesn't work.
They say, you're on crack.
You're crazy.
You're a terrorist.
You don't know.
You're not a medical professional.
Listen to Fauci.
Then two years later, they go, yeah, the vaccine doesn't really work.
We say tests don't work.
They say, you're crazy.
We didn't do the international tests because we wanted to do our own.
Ours are better and they work.
You're crazy.
Now they say, hey, Jill Biden did a test and it was wrong and she did another test and it was right.
Going forward, you guys need to take two or three tests.
So you take one test, it's negative.
You take one test, it's positive.
You better take a tiebreaker test to know the truth.
Everything we say turns out to be true.
Everything we allege turns out to be facts.
Everything we speak up, we say the FBI is criminal.
They're off the rails crazy.
They say, oh, my gosh, how dare you?
Now it turns out that Ammon Bundy served for two years in prison.
He gets out and he was guilty of nothing.
And the government, the judge, said the FBI was criminal.
They withheld exculpatory evidence.
They literally committed criminal acts.
Ammon was guilty of nothing, but the FBI, it's so egregious, we have to dismiss the case.
Then we say the FBI is like Nuremberg thugs.
They're crazy.
They say, how dare you compare our FBI to the Nuremberg?
Look, then in Michigan, you had gentlemen that wanted to commit a citizen's arrest on the governor because they believe she's criminal.
And she is, in my opinion.
Well, then they do this, and it turns out that there was FBI provocateurs among them.
They all go to trial, supposedly kidnapping the governor.
Nobody guilty.
FBI guilty of entrapment, but no accountability.
Now the FBI is trying to create double jeopardy and try these guys again.
Then they raid Trump's home.
And we say they're criminal, and they go, oh, you're crazy.
Now we say the IRS is criminal.
They say, oh, my gosh, you're crazy.
Come on.
Then it all comes out.
Catherine Engelbrecht, dear friend of mine, true the vote.
She literally was one of those people trying to get a 501c3.
They shut her down because she was conservative.
They abused her.
She literally was in a decade-long battle with the IRS.
She finally wins $2 million.
Problem is now they won't pay her.
She won $2 million in court.
Now they won't pay her.
What does she do now?
So this is kind of what I mean.
Where are we today in America where, hey, I say there's election fraud.
They say you have no proof.
I point to Roy Moore's proof and they say, that's not election fraud.
There's no association between lying about a candidate before the election.
Now, I don't know if you know when Richard Mack ran for sheriff in the state of Utah, he lost, by the way.
You want to know why?
Three days before the election, the FBI raided his office.
There you go.
And they announced it in the media.
Okay?
So he lost.
Well, then later, there was no charges filed of any kind.
Now, what do you do?
Do you sue so you can lose and spend a bunch of money, James?
Do you pray on a winner that you win?
Do you call the government criminal so they can say you're a racist?
Did you lie and you're a terrorist?
Do you go to January 6th?
No.
We said don't go to January 6th.
Now they come back and say, you're guilty of it even though you didn't go and even though you told people not to go.
You're still guilty.
Now what?
This is insanity, James.
Well, I tell you, now what is the question?
Because you've got these rogue federal agencies and these rogue federal agents, but this whole thing, I mean, we've mentioned it two or three times over the course of the last two weeks, but you always have good takes on situations like this, Sam.
This is certainly a little bit more in your wheelhouse than my own.
But the conscription of the IRS, you know, these 80,000 agents, what are they going to be up to?
What are they going to be doing?
Oh, don't worry.
They're only going to attack the rich, James.
Yeah.
But you want to know what they're going to say next?
You ready?
Yeah, I'm going to kill you.
You're rich.
If you don't live in Tent City, you're rich, I guess.
Now, listen, James.
They all have to wear firearms, too.
James claims without evidence that he's not rich.
See?
There you go.
And so I'm just saying this is insane.
And here's the problem.
I don't see anybody standing up against this for guys like me.
The Republicans wring their hands.
Oh, golly, isn't that awful?
But I don't hear any Republicans really against the IRS on this, do you?
Well, I mean, there is some anti-IRS rhetoric, but this is what we were talking about earlier in the program.
When the Republicans, well, I'll say this.
This is progress, I guess, because 5, 10 years ago.
How many of them are calling to shut down the IRS?
Never.
Five, ten years ago, you wouldn't even hear Republicans saying things you agree with.
Now they at least say things they agree with, but they actually haven't got to the doing something about it party.
There have been some, and there have been some, you know, Bobert and Green and others are saying abolish the FBI.
You are hearing that, but I don't know if that vocal minority is going to be enough to overtake the Mitch McConnell, Kevin McCarthy, you know, cuckwing of GOP.
But, you know, it's all still happening in real time.
There you go.
I don't even know what to think about it.
It's just insanity.
But anyway, the good news is that Roy Moore won.
I hope he gets money, and I hope he gives him hell with it.
That's all I can say.
Well, I'll tell you what, with $8 million, Roy Moore could wage another campaign.
I think so.
I think for $8 million, he could do a lot of things.
So who knows in God's perfect timing, and nothing happens that surprises God.
So all of this is, you know, we don't understand his mysterious ways, do we, Sam?
But whatever comes from Roy Moore, there has at least been a little bit of indication on his part and the fact that, hey, you know, this is good.
Maybe this will stop the next so-called journalist or the next so-called PAC from saying whatever they can think of to harm.
And that whole thing with me was just basically to harm Donald Trump's candidacy.
It had really not a lot to do with me at all, other than the fact that we had received press credentials.
They were trying to hurt Trump.
They were trying to do to Trump what they were doing to Moore, try to stop him from winning the nomination, stop him from winning the presidency.
That's what that whole thing was about.
And I was just a pawn of the whole thing.
But, yeah, maybe this causes them to think it over.
You know, an $8 million judgment would certainly, you know, if you got that against the New York Times, for instance, and I know our friend Peter Brimlow has sued the New York Times, and like me, he came up short.
But the New York Times would probably have to pay that.
Okay, this PAC that we know little about that maligned Moore and defamed Moore, they could declare bankruptcy.
But this could cause CNN or the New York Times or the Washington Post or organizations like that that aren't going to go away if they lose a judgment to think twice about it.
And maybe even the Detroit News, for God's sake, would think twice about it after a win like this for Moore.
And Moore is not a guy.
You know, you talked about this on your program when you covered it.
This is not an unknown guy.
This is a guy that reaches that celebrity level or public official level where the calls to prove actual malice and all of that in a defamation suit is much higher for him than it would be a normal person.
This is a guy that come back.
Let's talk about his history for a second, too, because I think it's relevant.
Okay, we'll do it.
We'll be right back with Sam Bushman.
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Back with Sam Bushman.
I know there were some other things that you wanted to cover before we run out of time tonight.
But to wrap up the coverage and the significance of the Roy Moore victory in court.
Number one, he's a Southerner.
Let's not forget that.
Number two, he really got his claim to fame on a national scale when he literally would not reject the Ten Commandments of Almighty God.
Yeah, that's right.
And so he's a very grounded person.
But what I find fascinating is every time the government finds a way to shut him down.
So they shut him down over the Ten Commandments.
They literally kicked him out of his judgeship because he wouldn't back off.
He wouldn't stand down.
Then he basically went back and got elected again in Alabama.
Every time the people have their say in the matter, James, they elect him again and again and again and again.
And this is where fraud takes part.
You kick him out from being a judge.
You malign his character, abuse him.
Then he gets re-elected and then you find a way to kick him out again.
Then he goes ahead and runs again and you go ahead and commit fraud, lying about his character, defame his character and create libel against him.
And now you have to pay $8.2 million five years later.
And every time this guy seems to bounce back in a very productive, meaningful way, we need to take a page out of that playbook, ladies and gentlemen.
We need to stand our ground.
We need to, quote, take no prisoners.
We need to literally keep coming back, back, back, back like he does.
We could take a page from this playbook, James, because we have, and he's proof.
And he wasn't supposed to win his primary for senator that year either, and he did, and they had to pull out the final stop, and that was all of this sexual sex scandals.
But he does remind me, I think, of that old meme, the picture you see from time to time.
It's the frog that's been swallowed by the pelican, and all you see is the frog's arm reaching out of the pelican's mouth and choking it.
You know, something like that.
Just never give up.
You know, never stop fighting.
And he did that.
And he's lost some court battles, too.
You know, when he was pranked by Sasha Barrick Cohen in that whole ordeal and defamed by him, he took it to court and lost.
He took this to court and won.
He's a fighter.
It's a good example for the rest of us to follow.
Give me one second, James.
No, I got you.
I got you.
In fact, while you're doing that, I will remind people to go to LibertyRoundtable.com, LibertyRoundtable.com.
Earlier this week, I was on Sam's show, as was an old name in TPC history, Jerome Corsi, who wrote the book about Obama's birth certificate and all of that.
And we recited in that book.
And of course, he's done a lot of good work.
He was back on to talk about his latest project there with Sam, the aforementioned Patrick Randigo.
Always a regular with Sam.
In fact, we had a good talk.
I don't want to shift abruptly, Sam, but talking another friend.
Anyway, that's the only point I wanted to make about Roy Moore.
I just wanted to say there's an example of how you do it, though.
You just keep coming back.
You never give up.
You don't back down.
You tell the tale of freedom.
You stand with God, family, and country.
You stand with our people.
And he does that.
Well, then we were talking about Sheriff Mack, too.
Richard Mack, who was featured by CNN just a few days ago.
And that's another story.
You just keep going after him.
You keep going after him.
It's a huge story.
And I've literally invited CNN to come on the radio and talk with me about this, but they're chicken and won't return my calls.
So there you go.
Well, yeah, long gone are the days where they'll talk to us, but talk about us.
Now, that's still in play, which was a little bit surprising that they wouldn't.
Well, they lie back on it.
They don't really talk about us either.
They used to talk about you, James.
Now they lie about you.
Well, that's right.
But it was interesting with Mac.
Every experience I had with CNN was a live appearance.
They taped Mac's appearance, and they taped it for an hour and a half and then cut and spliced about two or three minutes together.
What was that all about?
Well, so the issue is we have had some incredible events over the last, or I should just say this summer.
Let's put it that way.
One of the events was our election fraud press conference was incredible.
Mike Lindell was there.
I introduced Mike Lindell on stage, Richard Mack, about 10 sheriffs.
There's literally four sheriffs' investigations relating to vote fraud or election fraud underway currently.
There's serious allegations and serious evidence.
They claim there's no evidence for what we say, but how do they know if our investigations aren't complete?
Answer, they lie.
Answer, they don't have any respect for the rule of law, etc.
But we digress.
We had this incredible press conference, and that's kind of what got them interested in us.
We are also standing on the Second Amendment.
You know, they pushed for gun control, and we're really standing up.
There's a lot of sheriffs now saying, look, there's a sheriff in Missouri that simply said, hey, you know what?
I am not going to go along with your gun control gathering schemes.
I'm going to stand against it.
And if you take me down too, I don't care.
So sheriffs are standing up, and a lot of them are involved with the Constitutional Sheriffs and Peace Officers Association.
Everybody's familiar with the video of the gentleman who the BATF came to his house and they said, hey, we want to see your guns.
And anyway, he didn't want them to.
But anyway, long story short, they didn't have a warrant.
Well, now Bob Songer, a CSPOA sheriff and currently elected sheriff in what's called Kleckatec County, Washington, literally saw that video and freaked.
And he issued an international press release.
So it went all the way from his local county to every government official all along the way, all the way up to the Attorney General of the United States and even to an international news market.
And he basically said, listen, when the BATF comes to your house, if they do, understand they are not welcome in my county.
I'm putting them on notice right now.
They are not welcome here.
They have no authority.
They have no jurisdiction, and they're flat out not welcome.
And if you have them come to your house, you need to ask them if they have a warrant.
And they better show it to you, and it better be legitimate.
And if they will not show you the warrant, and if they continue to harass you, call me if you live in my county, and I will reason with them.
And if they'll reason, we'll have them leave.
If they won't reason, I will flat out arrest them.
So there's a press release out now from a lead sheriff that's a sitting sheriff saying that.
There's other sheriffs that have election investigations underway currently.
One of the sheriffs conducted an investigation because here's what happened.
They say there's no evidence, but here's the evidence.
A person in his county came to the sheriff and said, hey, he's in Wisconsin, by the way.
His name is Sheriff Schmeling.
And anyway, he had a constituent come to him and say, hey, my mom is incompetent.
She's old.
She's got illnesses and she's not, you know, all the way there.
However, she voted in the latest election, but she doesn't know she did.
This is a problem.
And can you please investigate this?
And the sheriff said, yes.
Well, anyway, he dug in and found out there's all kinds of nursing home fraud.
Yeah, they took a bunch of votes in the nursing homes and da-da-da.
It's a long story, but suffice it to say, they say we have no evidence.
But in my opinion, when a citizen comes to their sheriff with this example, how do you say there's no evidence?
Well, the only way you say that is if you just lie.
Then what they'll say, if we show the evidence, they'll say, well, it wouldn't change the election outcome.
So let me understand this.
Fraud's okay as long as it doesn't change the election outcome.
So I robbed the bank, and my excuse is going to be, well, the bank can get money from the Federal Reserve.
It won't take down the bank.
It's not really a big deal, is it?
See, this is just psychotic.
I like that.
Okay.
So anyway, the bottom line is because we're standing up on the Second Amendment, because we're standing up on election fraud, because we're doubling down.
Then we went to last weekend a place called the pit.
And it sounds like a weird name until you scripturally or scriptorally understand it.
In the Bible, it talks about, hey, the enemies dig a pit for us, but the Lord can turn that pit around, and the pit they dug will be for themselves.
So the wicked will dig a pit for us to entrap us, but yet the pit will eventually backfire and be used by God to entrap those who are evil and dug the pit in the first place.
So that's why they call it the pit.
And Greg Phillips and Catherine Engelbrecht of Through the Vote had an event and they had about 150 plus, maybe 200, lead new media people.
And we attended that.
I attended as Liberty News Radio and with Richard Mack, CSPOA.
And there was a lot of new media influencers.
A lot of them are on Truth Social.
A lot of them are on Telegram and a lot of other new media services.
And we basically got an update from Greg and Catherine, a summary of their whole story, how 2,000 mules fit in, and what's happened to them since.
And the summary of this story, James, is as follows.
They got proof of election fraud.
They went to the FBI with that proof of election fraud, and the FBI sounded shocked and went along with them and helped them gather a ton of information and literally used all the information they had gathered.
But then one day, all of a sudden, the FBI called them up and started to accuse Greg and Catherine as the criminals instead.
So they worked with them, and then they betrayed them.
They had a discovery phase, an operational phase, and a betrayal phrase is the way they taught it.
The discovery phase is we get all the information that we have.
The operation phases, we dig in operationally and prove what we have.
And the betrayal phase is when the government literally betrayed us.
It's kind of fascinating when you hear their story, but here's the summation of their research and what they've discovered.
All the election information in county after county after county is ran through the communist Chinese internet backbone.
And we have the proof.
And when we tried to have the FBI blow the whistle and stop it, it turns out the FBI is in bed with the communist Chinese.
I'll tell you how and what and where and when in seconds on your radio.
Hey, a pros pro.
Who needs me to do an outro?
We've got Sam Bushman on and we got into one more segment.
Stay tuned.
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One last segment in tonight's live broadcast.
We'll be back with you next week, of course, as we're inching closer and closer to fall.
Another year of TPC, not only in full tilt, but beginning to transition into the last couple of seasons of the year.
And well, listen, week after week, month after month, year after year, coming up on decade after decade, as we approach ever more closely to 20 years on the air, it's just every minute, every minute has been wonderful.
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Sam Bushman, one last segment.
It's all yours, my friend.
All right.
So I was telling you that they discovered that the elections go through the communist Chinese internet backbone on communist hosted servers.
You say, Sam, are you sure?
Do you have the proof?
Yeah.
At this pit event we attended last weekend, they delivered the proof to us.
And how the story goes is there's a man who was a Chinese citizen who came and moved to the United States.
Before you know it, he was naturalized.
Before you know it, he started a company.
And all of this stuff goes through this one Chinese character.
He created a company called Conic.
K-O-N-E-C-H.
Let me see.
Is it one N or two N's?
Anyway, Conic.
And, oh, it's K-O-N-N-E-C-H, Conic.
And oftentimes when you search for it, you have to add an apostrophe at the end to find it.
But long story short, Conics developed a ton of vote software.
And one of the softwares that is used by this group, they have a whole suite of software.
One of them is called Poll Chief.
Like polling, Poll Chief.
And the Poll Chief software, ladies and gentlemen, is kind of an end-to-end ERP, so to speak.
Of course, as you know, ladies and gentlemen, it's an 10 guy too.
Yeah, it's an end-to-end ERP.
I'm so sorry.
I don't know why I'm getting all these calls all at the same time.
Anyway, it's a polling software that's like end-to-end ERP software.
What does that mean?
Well, it takes care of the accounting.
It takes care of the payroll.
It takes care of who can access the polling locations.
It's employee information.
It's called Poll Chief.
And that software, ladies and gentlemen, is ran by the communist Chinese.
And what happens is we're able to track IP addresses.
And so the same IP addresses that are from China, because you can verify where IP addresses are in the world.
There's software that'll tell you, hey, this IP address, that goes to, say, Comcast, American Fork Utah, or whatever.
And hey, it's easy to determine that Sambushman's IP address or whatever.
Long story short, these addresses track to the communist nation of China on the Chinese backbone through this company called Conic.
And so these polling softwares literally control everything.
Well, on the same URL, they have vote and then a given city, vote a given city, vote a given city.
And they literally control all this.
In their suite of products, they have another piece of software called what's it called?
Fast ballot counting software.
Fast ballot counting software.
Think about that, James.
Are you comfortable with fast ballot counting software?
That way they can count it up real quick, and if they see they're kind of under where they need to be, they can suspend the election there.
Everybody can go to sleep, you see.
Anyway, long story short, they've documented this.
And they've documented where the votes go and how it all happens and everything else.
And the information that they have is shocking.
And so what Catherine Engelbreck and Greg Phillips are going to do is this.
I don't know if you know this, but there's 81 government-controlled fusion centers across the country.
And these fusion centers team up state government, federal government, your county, your city, along with a bunch of other, quote, third parties, and they gather information on you and me.
Did you know that?
And so we don't like those fusion centers because they're all controlled by the government.
Greg Phillips and Catherine are going to create a fusion center that sheriffs can access and that we, the people, can access and submit information to so that we can gather information on their fraud and their abuses.
And they've got a whole clearinghouse fusion center in the private sector that we're going to build.
The one that relates to voting that they're going to build is going to be available on an app that you can use, and it's called Open Inc.
And Open Inc. is going to be the fusion center for the reporting of and the real-time tracking of elections.
And so we're making serious progress.
Well, anyway, the whole point about that is when the CNN and others started to hear what we were doing with all these different things from the Second Amendment to election fraud conference to this pit event that we just went to, they're starting to freak because sheriffs are organizing and assembling and standing up against the government tyranny.
And they are livid about the FBI raids that have taken place.
They're livid about Adam and Bunny sitting in prison for two years and guilty of nothing.
And the FBI literally trying to create entrapment on January 6th and in Michigan against the governor.
And all these different things.
And people are starting to wake up and sheriffs, duly elected officials, are starting to take action and create accountability and say, look, this isn't happening in my county.
You're not coming in here and doing this or you'll get arrested.
And so the CNN and all the liberals are starting to freak because we're making real headway.
And they're starting to want to talk.
So they wanted to interview Richard.
And they literally spent the whole time attacking Richard, saying, you know, hey, how what are you doing?
At the end of their segment on Richard Mack, they said, can you believe this guy used to be in law enforcement and now is training law enforcement officials?
As if he was some kind of a nutcase.
And me and Richard Mack's response is, Can you believe these people are really controlling your news, ladies and gentlemen?
They literally have an hour and 25-minute interview.
The highlight was Richard Mack beat Bill Clinton at the Supreme Court over states' rights issues, the greatest 10th Amendment decision ever rendered in America.
And they do an hour and 25-minute interview.
They use three minutes and don't even mention that fact.
And they're the credible news people that we're going to depend on.
Can you believe these people are in the news, James?
That's the thing, ladies and gentlemen.
And what Sam's been talking about here for the past segment and change just goes to show that as much as there is overlap, Sam does talk about issues, and you've got a little taste of it here, that we're not quite as proficient at covering, quite frankly.
And so it's a lot of similar content, but also a divergence.
And together and collectively, we get it all done.
But you do want to check out Liberty Roundtable, the Liberty Roundtable show with Sam Bushman, LibertyRoundtable.com.
He's always, always up to something and always got an interesting guest on him.
We mentioned Jerry Corsi and Sheriff Mac and others.
And James Edwards.
Well, yes, fantastic.
By the way, you know, when they call you a racist, James, you just know that it means you're winning the race.
Oh, I like that.
That's catchy.
That's catchy.
I might use that.
But yes, I'm on there.
And of course, a lot of people that you won't hear on TPC, but it is a wonderful program.
And as I said, Sam's always up to something, always talking to someone, always going somewhere.
And he has been at, well, he was on with us just a few weeks ago to talk about dual conferences in Las Vegas that he spoke to, the CSPOA conference, followed immediately by the Freedom Fest.
He was a panelist there.
So Sam is networking, literally running this network and networking with others.
And together, it just makes the collective coalition that much larger.
And just a quick little tidbit.
Yeah, I know a lot of people have been shut down with their credit card services and everything else.
I found a guy who runs a credit card processing service, and he goes by the nickname of Pepe the Frog.
And he's ready to make sure you don't get shut down, people.
And I literally tested his mettle, and he says he's serious.
And we'll find out, right?
Well, that's the thing.
So, you know, we have been deplatformed from receiving credit card contributions for two years, two years now.
And it's been mail-in contributions, checks, or money orders, or well-concealed cash.
We get a handful of those, not a lot.
But we appreciate it all.
And I know it takes a little bit of extra effort to put a stamp on a snail mail envelope and put it in the mailbox and wait for it to get here and get cashed and all of that.
So we appreciate y'all doing that the last couple of years.
But yes, Sam has talked to this gentleman, and he told me about it a couple of days ago, and he specifically mentioned our story and what happened with us and what they say about us.
And this guy says he's going to play ball.
Now, there is a problem.
You still have to go through certain other vendors and parties to get this to happen.
But a lot of times, the Deep.
He's confident he has enough sway to even change that game.
He says, you want to hang out with me?
Hang out with Pepe the Frog.
We'll leap you ahead.
So we'll see.
I'll tell you what.
So stay tuned for that.
Just another piece of evidence that always goes to show that we're always working on things behind the scenes here.
But that would be very interesting.
So hopefully, knock on wood, fingers crossed.
We're not counting our chickens before they're hatched, and we're not even counting on it at all.
But there's at least a conversation to be had there.
And if this guy is willing and able to platform us, and we can get back plugged into the online credit card processing, maybe others who have been universally blacklisted into platforms like Jared Taylor and our friends Henrik and Lana at Red Eye.
So we're all checks only.
It's a check-only business.
So long as the USPS still delivers mail, that is.
And so far, that doesn't look to be going anywhere, even for dissidents.
So we'll see where it goes.
But Sam is always talking to people, and it's for the veterans of all of us.
And we appreciate that.
So, Sam, what's coming up the rest of the year?
I can't ask you what's coming up in the indefinite future because we've only got four minutes left and we'd fill the hour in that alone.
But what do you got planned for the rest of the year on Liberty Roundtable?
And the pit, that there was a bunch of new media people there.
I mean, there was literally 150 new media people, and a lot of them have some real followings.
We're going to be partnering with a lot of those people to spread Liberty News Radio, to spread my show, James, and your show.
These people are not afraid of you and what you stand for at all either.
Like I said, this one guy that leads a group of 50-plus media people, he basically goes by Pepe the Frog.
And so he's not afraid of any of that.
I talked to him and I said, well, you know, they call you a racist.
He says, what are you talking about?
I'm just a frog.
He's just mocking these people.
So I'm going to be working with over the next several months all these new people that I met.
They are influencers in a very big new media way.
And they were, you know, all together.
This is huge in terms of the impact.
They're reaching a younger audience.
They're reaching an audience in different platforms that we haven't traditionally been on.
And it's going to be tremendous, and you're going to be part of it.
I tell you what, I host a radio program.
I think I do a good job of it.
But Sam Bushman does that, and he's a visionary to boot.
And he makes connections that I don't think many people can.
And I love him.
And I love him for it.
One of the greatest men I've ever known.
Sam Bushman, thank you so much for being with me again, brother.
We will talk to you again very soon.
God bless you and your audience.
God bless you.
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