Oct. 16, 2021 - The Political Cesspool - James Edwards
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The Political Cesspool, known across the South and worldwide as the South's foremost populist conservative radio program.
And here to guide you through the murky waters of the Political Tesspool is your host, James Edwards.
Well, the hits just keep on coming tonight, as they do every week, but tonight especially so when we welcome back right now Jared Taylor, the editor of American Renaissance, the author of Paved with Good Intentions, White Identity, and If We Do Nothing.
I've always said, well, I should say we're welcoming Jared Taylor back again because he has made a lot of appearances over the course of the last 17 years.
Jared, how are you?
I'm very well, thank you, and it's always a pleasure and honor to be on your program.
Well, I do say I must stress again, my friend, because a very well-financed organization in Montgomery, Alabama actually counted the number of appearances you've made.
I was going by feel and saying, I think you've made more appearances than everyone else, but no, they actually took the time to count it.
That's good work if you can get it.
52 appearances, they said.
This would be number 53.
So that's something.
Well, yes, I read that analysis that they put together, and they basically baptized you, the godfather of the entire radical racial movement.
I was very impressed.
You're a very good person.
I think they missed it.
You are the center of the web that stretches out to all the different organizations, including American Renaissance.
So congratulations.
No, no, James Edwards.
I think they got me and you confused in that assessment.
I don't know what was happening there, but they put the names in the wrong places.
But no, that was an interesting read nonetheless, but I am thankful for what we've been able to do in media.
And, of course, the great connections and cross-pollination we've been able to do.
And always, Jared, all kidding aside, always an honor to have you on the show.
Great to have you back this mid-October evening.
So what I wanted to bring you back for, though, was to talk about this eye-popping findings of this poll that you recently commissioned with American Renaissance.
We've been talking about polls that have suggested these trends for most of the year.
You commissioned your very own.
Tell us the methodology in that, how you did it, what prompted you to do it, and what the findings, in fact, were.
The method we used was online.
I don't want to go into too much detail about what platform we used, but there are a number that are available to anybody who wants to pay a fee.
What you have to do is go into a system, and you have to be willing to pay people a small amount of money to answer polling questions.
And we had a fellow who was willing to do this.
He is really an expert in this business.
He's done it many times, and he set it up in a way that I thought was very, very effective.
And what we wanted to find out was what white people really think about racial questions.
Now, because these are commercial platforms and we don't want to give the hand, tip our hand too much, we couldn't ask really radioactive questions such as, well, do you think blacks and whites have different average IQs, for example?
Or would you rather live in a majority white or all-white neighborhood?
So what we did, we asked sort of tangential questions such as, do you support Black Lives Matter?
Or do you want to strengthen affirmative action for minorities?
Or do you want to decrease or increase immigration?
Or do you disagree that whites have some kind of advantage because of their skin color?
We asked a whole bunch of other questions, too, to kind of put these in camouflage, not make it clear what we were really getting after.
But these four questions, if we found that white people answered, first of all, they don't support Black Lives Matter, they don't want to strengthen affirmative action, they want to decrease immigration, and they disagree about this idea of white privilege.
We counted those, if you answered all four of those questions that way, we considered you a racial conservative.
Now, believe it or not, 26% of whites came out as racial conservatives on that basis.
And if we're talking about the adult population, that's 41 million white people.
41 million.
Yes.
And interestingly enough, we classified everyone who answered in the other way.
In other words, support Black Lives Matter, want more affirmative action, want more immigration, and believe that white people have unfair privilege.
We called them racial liberals.
And as it turns out, only 16.8% of the people that replied were racial liberals, and that makes 26.6 million, as opposed to 41 million.
So by this definition that we put together, there are 41 million racial conservatives and only 26.6 million racial liberals.
So we have a situation in which the 26.6 million are essentially imposing their will on the conservatives and the rest of the country.
Now, again, it's important to note that we were polling only white people.
And if we had included non-whites in the polls, I'm sure we'd have gotten substantially larger number of racial liberals.
People want more immigration, think whites have privilege, et cetera, et cetera.
Now, the fact is, though, whites still pretty much set the intellectual cultural trends of the country.
So we do have this very interesting phenomenon of the 26.6 million pretty much running the show for the rest of us.
This is such a fascinating topic to me, Jared.
I'm so glad that you did this because we've been citing polls that were issued by their polling companies, you know, these establishment polling companies, the system polling companies, who have come to similar conclusions when asked of Trump voters.
These are, of course, the 75 million people who voted for Trump.
And last November, I believe it was a majority responded that said, yes, we believe that white people are under attack in America.
And something along the lines of what you were finding answered affirmatively when asked the very loaded question, do you have a somewhat or a very favorable view of white nationalism, even terms that we don't like to use?
And I believe it was something along the lines of 20 to 30 percent said yes.
So this is incredible.
I think what we're finding here, very astonishing, the more totalitarian our system becomes, it seems as though the more people are, for lack of a better word, radicalizing.
I do think you are having, we're witnessing a realignment of the GOP base, certainly of the Trump portion of the GOP base, which basically is the de facto GOP base.
I think, Jared, you wouldn't have found percentages this high in response to your question even five or ten years ago.
I think the more heavy-handed they become, the more people are beginning to see the light.
And that is in fact the title of your article here, White Americans Waking Up on Race.
Do you believe there's a correlation between the oppression and the censorship that is correlating with the people who are beginning to become, as you put it, racial conservatives?
Yes, I think there is unquestionably a reaction to the very heavy-handed treatment that whites have been getting.
And another interesting finding in our poll was that 34.1% of whites say they are more conservative than they were 10 years ago.
26.8% say they are more liberal.
So 34% more conservative, 27% more liberal.
That's an important trend.
We're going to take a quick time out.
We've got Jared for another segment, and we're going to continue to talk about this.
But in the meantime, put this in your mind.
Go to Amran.com.
That's A-M-R-E-N, Amran.com.
There at the top center, you can scroll over a couple of featured articles and you'll find the Amran poll, White Americans Waking Up on Race.
This is a data-driven survey.
You are going to want to read the complete findings.
Thank you.
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If I had a glass in hand, I would raise it right now in a toast to Jared Taylor and say, Jared, here's to the next 53 interviews.
If you'll indulge me, I would share a very quick story to the audience.
So a year or two into our run here, you and I shared the stage at a conference, and I was a speaker, and you were the speaker, and perhaps this was our first time to ever meet.
Then some years later, which would still be more than a decade ago now, if everybody's following the timeline, you shared with me the story that you had remembered meeting me at that conference, and you said, well, he looks interesting.
He sounds interesting.
Let's see where he goes with it.
So I would hope that in your estimation, as we are now one week shy of our 17th anniversary, in your estimation, we've held the line because I must say you have played a role in the development here and you've been a big part of it.
And I thank you for that.
Well, gosh, no, you certainly have held the line.
Very few people have been as consistent, as outspoken, and as dedicated as you.
And your audience recognizes that, and that's why it keeps growing.
So may you prosper and succeed in all of your ventures.
I get nostalgic on the cusp of an anniversary.
What can I say?
And that ends coming up again.
And again, we remember the people who have stood shoulder to shoulder with us.
Very few have done it as steadfastly as Jared Taylor.
And it's always great to catch up with Jared, whether it be in person or here on the air.
So let's go back to this poll.
I call it eye-popping findings, Jared, that you've uncovered here, which run congruent with some of the statistics we've seen other people putting out this year.
So that would lead us to the conclusion that there are right now, as we speak this evening, tens of millions of Americans who are fundamentally with us.
I have always anecdotally said I believe that.
Now we have data to back it up.
The question is, I guess, where are they?
What are they doing?
When do they come into the fold?
Because those are numbers you can win with today if properly organized and properly motivated and following the right leadership.
That's enough to turn a rudder now.
Oh, yes.
That is the remarkable thing.
And I have been thinking for years, as the pressure builds against whites, and this last year or two, ever since really the death of George Floyd, the insanity has got up to fever pitch.
This is really the first time that grade school children are being told in public schools, Whitey, you are bad.
You are bad because you were just born bad and that you are an inherent oppressor.
This is shocking to white people.
And that's why all around the country, PTA groups are getting together and going to school boards and really raising a stink.
And people are reacting against this clear assault on their race.
But they're confused.
After all, white people tend to be more patriotic than anyone else in America.
And every time they turn around, they're being told that they are bad.
The people that they've respected and admired all their lives from our history, George Washington, even Abraham Lincoln, for heaven's sake, Teddy Roosevelt, you name it.
Any white hero from the past is bad because he's a racist.
What in heaven's name is going on?
So I think they are starving for people like you and for people like me who can put things into perspective and see the pattern that this has, that this is, of this pattern of assault on whites as white people.
Now, part of the trouble, of course, is that the internet has been structured in a way to make it very hard to find us.
I'm sure that you have people that are blocking access to your website.
We have very much the same problem.
If you type in a long sentence unique to an American Renaissance article on Google, you may not find us at all.
You have to go through pages and pages eventually to find us.
DuckDuckGo is much better that way.
But, of course, American Renaissance used to have YouTube, we used to have Facebook, we used to have Twitter, all very successful accounts.
They've been blasted out of the water.
Because, as I said earlier, if we take the racial liberals by the definition that we used in this poll, there are only 26.6 million white adults who are racial liberals as opposed to the more than 41 million racial conservatives.
They have the media power.
They have the political power and they are imposing their will.
Now, another interesting factor that we discovered is that racial conservatives, people like you and me, tend to be men.
60% turned out to be men.
Only 40% of women are racial, of the racial conservative group, only 40% are women.
So this is something that we have been contending with for a long time.
It is generally men who take a more hard-nosed, realistic view about racial matters than women.
And as the country becomes increasingly feminized, with more women in positions of power, more women making editorial decisions, that makes it more likely that we have this overwhelmingly anti-white, we have to put it state it what it is, this anti-white ideology gets a boost from the increasing feminization of American society.
Ladies and gentlemen, I would bring your attention now as we wrap up this interview with Jared.
It's something, Jared, that Andrew Yang had actually put out recently on his Twitter, and it is a graph that documents the political stress level currently and leading up to the war between the states, what they call the civil war.
And there is a very similar timeline, and both are spiking off the charts right now, 1861 and 2021.
Now, I don't know exactly what organization put together this data and how they came to their conclusions, but I think that's something that you can palpably feel as well out there.
So I don't know where all this is ending.
I think, ironically, that same suppression and censorship that we've all faced has really played a role in this awakening that people have had.
People see it.
People see things more and notice things more than I think the system gives them credit for.
And I don't know how it's going to end.
I don't know if there will be a national divorce, if God forbid it turns violent, if there's an economic collapse.
But I will say this, and I say again every show, let's not do anything to hasten that, ladies and gentlemen.
Let's not go out there and do anything stupid.
Let's not advocate or certainly commit any sort of illegal acts.
It'll fall apart on its own.
I will say, though, Jared, I am more, I've always been a happy guy.
I've always been a forward-looking, optimistic activist.
But I think with just a minute or two remaining, I think I am more Excited about the future right now, even while simultaneously we face what would appear to be losses on every front with the monuments, with the courts.
I mean, there's nothing really going good for us out there except for the simmering that we see presented in this data.
I just think there's something about that.
There's just something, the old Latin saying, While I breathe, I hope.
I have hope right now.
I don't know why.
I don't know tangibly where this is going to go, but I think something could happen.
I feel hopeful about our future, even as whites on this continent.
Well, James, I share your optimism, as do many of my colleagues in this movement.
And when you see the figures for the number of Republicans and even Democrats who are in favor of regional secession, that's a remarkable thing.
And I've been saying for some time now that although, of course, I wasn't living in 1860 or 1861, but surely there's never been a time in American history other than that break just before the war between the states where there was such division, such unwillingness for people to get along.
And I foresee some kind of break.
I don't know when it will happen, but we simply cannot go on with this much tension and this much division.
Things do break apart eventually.
And it may get worse still before it gets better.
We may have people like us going to jail for thought crimes.
I don't know.
I certainly don't want that as a father.
You're a family man as well.
We don't want any of these things to happen.
But at the same time, we will, as the greatest American Robert E. Lee, encouraged us to do, we will do our duty.
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So certainly an unusual flow to the program tonight with once again, well, I guess we did this last week as well, but typically, typically, it's Keith and I in the first hour covering the news and announcements and current events that have popped up on our radar for any given week.
And then we have a featured guest or two in the second and third hours.
So we sort of turned all that on our heads tonight.
And to make it even further bizarre, we're going to have Keith for 30 minutes now.
Keith and I, as you probably have picked up on, are not in the studio together tonight.
And then 30 minutes in the next hour.
So we're just breaking things up, keeping you on your toes and keeping you alert.
You know, we don't want you to get too complacent there.
We've got to keep your ears tuned in by mixing it up and putting it all in a blender from time to time.
But Keith, great to have you tonight, brother.
How are you?
Well, it's good to be here.
Well, let's get down to it.
So last week, we were talking with Brad Griffin about, well, some of these polls we've been, again, talking about tonight.
And increasingly, articles really all over the place.
Agreeable, disagreeable, no opinion.
But the question is a national divorce.
And so we had reprinted one of Brad's articles about a national divorce at thepolitical cesspool.org this week.
You said that's something you wanted to revisit.
So take it away.
Right.
It's a national divorce.
It was a Thursday blog post on our blog.
And as always, Hunter does an excellent job.
I just take issue with one thing that he said, which is that, now I'm quoting now, both sides in that conflict talking about the original American Civil War from 1861 to 1865 agreed that slavery was the instant or occasion of the war.
It was the issue that broke the union and triggered secession.
You know, I respectfully disagree with that, and I wanted to give my opinions about that and my reasoning.
But basically his larger subject, which is that we are more divided now than we were at the time of the Civil War, is absolutely on target and is really what's driving this.
The historical basis we can argue about, I think, without missing the gist of what he says.
But in the first half of the Civil War, you got when you look back, what were the causes of the Civil War?
You need to look at it from a southern standpoint because it was southerners who triggered the events by seceding from the Union.
First, there were the seven Gulf states, South Carolina, Georgia, Florida, Alabama, Mississippi, Louisiana, and Texas that seceded.
And then there was kind of a phony war period in which we had our friend Abraham Lincoln trying to provoke the South into firing on Union troops, much like the Polk administration was interested in having the Mexican troops fire on American troops to start the Mexican war in the late 1840s.
Well, then when he wanted to raise 75,000 troops to invade the South and put down the insurrection, so-called the secession, that's when the other four states, Arkansas, Tennessee, Virginia, and North Carolina, secede from the Union.
Well, the real reason why the South wanted to leave the Union then were economic reasons, as usually is the case in all wars.
Economic reasons are always a part of the Union.
And they'll use an incident like John Brown's raid or Duke Ferdinand.
Keith, you're starting to break up just a little bit.
You may need to step.
I know you're probably in your limestone keep, as I tell people, Keith lives in a limestone keep.
So I don't know if the signal is not penetrating.
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Yeah, there you go.
Okay, let me do that.
But see, the real reason was that the South, in essence, was financing the entire operation of the federal government, and they thought that was unfair.
Back in 1861, there was no such thing as an income tax.
In fact, it was prohibited by the U.S. Constitution.
Lincoln passed one as an emergency war measure during the Civil War.
But right after the Civil War, they had to give it up until they passed the 16th Amendment in 1913 to allow it, to change the Constitution.
So if the income tax, which is now the primary source of money for running the federal government, wasn't available, how did they run the federal government back then?
Well, they ran the federal government on excise taxes.
Excise taxes were taxes on the production or the purchasing of certain items.
For example, in 1793, the whiskey rebellion was in response to an excise tax passed by the federal government on the production of whiskey, which Hill farmers depended upon as a way to make money off of their corn crops.
Without it, they couldn't raise anything but feedlot corn, which wasn't going to bring enough money in to basically pay the cost of production.
But another excise tax, in fact, the major one, as it turned out by the time of the run-up to the Civil War, was on foreign manufactured goods.
The South had to buy foreign manufactured goods in order to induce European nations like France and England to buy their agricultural products, cotton, tobacco, indigo, things like that.
Well, because the South had to buy those things, they were the ones that were bearing that tax.
And the tax was oppressive.
It had started out at 15%.
Then you had the tariff of abominations kerfuffle back in the early 1830s, where they were proposing for it to go up to 27%.
There was John C. Calhoun who came up with the nullification doctrine, saying that it was important that any state has an inherent right to disregard any federal law that is against its basic folkways and customs and outlook, white guys, basically.
And of course, Andrew Jackson, the president at the time, threatened to invade South Carolina and hang every nullifier from the nearest tree, but Cooler Heads prevailed.
Rather than going up to 27%, it went up to 22%.
Well, Lincoln, after he'd been elected, and there was a great split, basically because the South wanted to felt that the North was not going to honor its constitutional rights.
They were going to continue to rule dictatorially over them, and that the North was going to always be in charge of the federal government based on the way things were falling out.
So the South would always be basically like a U.S. colony, the agricultural colonies that England had had, you know.
Hello?
No, we're still here.
Keep on trucking.
Okay, well, here's what it is.
Somebody's trying to call me, so don't just forget that.
Here's what's going on.
The South was trying to operate as, you know, not as a vassal state or colony of the North, which is what we were doing.
We were basically paying 80% of the money used to run the federal government.
And to add insult to injury, whenever the Whigs, who were the predecessors to the Republicans and Lincoln's party, got in, their constant project was what they called internal improvements.
Just like the Democratic Party now, welfare is always a part of a plank of their proposed government when they're, you know, running for a president, for example.
Well, what happened was these internal improvements tended to be transportation systems like the Erie Canal or the Pennsylvania Turnpike.
And in addition, they were more and more being railroads.
Well, the railroads, 90% of these internal improvements were located out of the South, but 80% of the money used to do them was being raised from the South.
So the South thought their cow was being milked through the fence.
That was the real reason.
Slavery was not a big issue with Americans, either North or South, before the war.
The fire-breathing abolitionists, the William Lloyd Garrisons, the Frederick Douglasses, the John Browns, were less than probably at the most 5%, probably like 1% of the population.
It was an irritant to the South because it allowed the abolitionists to put a moral face on an immoral system that they were trying to basically rob the South of its money to run the federal government.
So Keith found this national divorce article from Brad Griffin at Occidental Descent, and he has gone back now to give us a little taste of his Confederate History Month commentary.
Now we're going to take it and fast forward to current events in the present day and see what he thinks about that.
Stay tuned.
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And you will hear once again from our co-host here, Keith Alexander the Great, in the third hour.
We were kind of splitting things up tonight a little bit.
Next week, by the way, is going to be our aforementioned 17th anniversary show.
It all started on October 26th, 2004.
Here we are now, 17 years later, on the cusp of yet another birthday.
And it is going to be a very lively and entertaining show.
We've done some interesting things over the years for these anniversary shows.
Sometimes we have conferences and we have in-person live broadcasts from, I think, the best conferences that our movement is able to put on.
We have live entertainment.
It is just such a familial, such a high-energy gathering at a TPC conference.
Other people do great conferences, just no doubt, to each their own, and people have different tastes.
But for my taste, it is just a true, wonderful sense of family that manifests itself at a TPC get-together.
It's something you really need to experience next time we do one as you get the opportunity to come.
Don't pass it up.
But last year, we didn't do a conference, but what we did do was we had members of the audience call in.
And we had a show that was just wall-to-wall on phone calls.
We've never done that before.
But we had more calls than we could take.
People who couldn't even get through.
They were getting busy signals through all of our lines.
And last year on the anniversary show, it was a full three hours of just people who listened to the program, our longtime supporters, members of our listening audience and listening family, calling in for a full three hours, just sharing thoughts and memories and best times and favorite interviews and all that stuff.
It was just, that was a show to me as a host that I'll never forget.
And we're going to try to do something fun next week as well, still working on the particulars and a little something different, but it will be a fun anniversary show.
That's what's coming up next week.
But anyway, Keith, back to this national divorce article.
I mean, undoubtedly, slavery played a role.
It was a factor in the war between the states.
But I think Brad's bigger point was that both sides in that conflict also agreed that the deeper constitutional issue of whether a state could voluntarily and unilaterally leave the Union was paramount.
Now, I don't want to relitigate that.
Let's go, though, to, I think, what is the most interesting part of his article.
So we've been talking about the political stress indicator and how all data seems to be pointing towards that there is going to be another meltdown in this country, whether it looks like the meltdown that took place in the 1860s or something entirely different, maybe worse.
Is it going to be guerrilla war like we saw in Ireland?
What's it going to look like?
We don't know, but something's going to give, something's going to change.
But here's the thing that Brad gets to.
And he writes, contrast the divide over slavery and secession with the divide that exists today.
And here's the point.
Americans no longer share any of the four major pillars of American identity that were shared by the Union and the Confederacy, who were, by and large, of one race, one religion, one culture, and one ideology.
Unlike the Union and the Confederacy, the two sides in the conflict today don't share a common history or ancestry.
They don't share common heroes or common holidays.
Both sides in the war between the states celebrated and claimed the 4th of July, which is now controversial.
To the extent that Americans do share common history, academics have convinced him that this is a terrible thing.
So this is where we're at, Keith.
The point is, I think the biggest takeaway is Americans are more divided today on the fault lines that cut to the very core and fabric of a nation than they were even then.
And we saw that that led to, of course, the most violent and bloody conflict in American history.
So where do we go now that we have nothing in common?
That's the million-dollar question.
Well, you know, slavery was not important to most people back then.
And most families, for example, were not willing to sacrifice their son or their husband or their father to war to liberate another entire race of people.
This all about everything about slavery and about mistreatment of black people or supposed mistreatment of black people is just a stick to beat the South with, and they're still using it today.
That is basically behind a lot of their criticisms of red state America.
But the real reason it became such a big issue was when Lincoln realized that the South could not win the war without a big European ally like Britain or France.
And he knew that Britain had a particular Achilles heel on the slavery issue because they alone of all the nations of the world had legislatively abolished slavery in 1833.
So if he could transform the war, which up till then he adamantly denied was about slavery, then he could keep the British out of the war.
So that's what he did beginning with the Emancipation Proclamation on January the 1st, 1863.
But what's happening now is that some things, you know, never change.
They're still using the specter of slavery, you know, and black rights and rights of other minorities who are proxies for blacks to drive the left-wing effort to basically turn Red State America into a vassal state, just like they tried to turn the South into a vassal state in the run-up to the Civil War.
Now, we don't have a, you know, much in common at all.
And the main problem now is exactly what it was back in the run-up to the Civil War.
The other side does not want to recognize that we have any rights that can be defended and protected and asserted to thwart their will.
And because of that, this is in many ways a replay of the Civil War.
But as Brad pointed out, we have many more fault lines now than we had back then.
They were basically economic, and slavery was used later in the war by Lincoln to keep Britain out of the war.
But now, just about anything from vaccines to foreign trade to immigration policy to, you know, just anything that you name, there is a liberal and a conservative viewpoint.
And today's liberals are not like yesterday's liberals.
You know, liberals back when I was growing up in the 50s and 60s liked to quote Voltaire and say, I don't agree with what you're saying, but I will defend to the death your right to say it.
Well, that type of abstraction is not going over well with these millennials that seem to be populating Black Lives Matter and Antifa.
So they've given that away altogether.
They're trying to stuff a sock in the mouth of Red State America with hate crime laws.
They're angling for hate speech laws.
They want to be able to deplatform people with impunity from social media and even the internet altogether by force and by dictate rather than recognizing a First Amendment right to have another viewpoint find an audience.
So I really don't think, though, that the left is willing to fight.
I don't think the South is willing to fight.
Is there going to be an official breaking up of the country?
I don't know.
It would be good if that could happen.
Of course, there would be some fallout from that.
One of the fallouts would be that America's dollar would no longer be the international currency that it is now.
It would not be the primary benchmark.
It would probably be the Chinese equivalent of the dollar, the J-U-A-N.
I don't know exactly how to pronounce that, so I won't.
But something else is going to take its place.
And this is what Lincoln really feared from the Civil War.
He didn't want America to be half as big, half as populous, and half as wealthy.
Well, with America being that, which is what would happen if we had a red state, blue state breakup, all the people that want to project power onto the world stage through America, like Jewish power and influence, like, you know, NATO and some other groups, they're going to be disappointed because America will basically revert the vision of the founders, which was we're going to tend our own knitting here in America and maybe,
just maybe, Western Hemisphere, but not the entire world, which is going to leave, for example, the state of Israel in a quandary because they've been depending on America's wealth and our military to secure their position in the Middle East.
Well, we need to get out of these entangling alliances, as George Washington would have called them in his farewell address.
He said, the surest way to lose our freedom was to foster favorite nation status with foreign nations or to get entangled in foreign wars.
Well, that is standard operating procedure for America today.
And not doing that would be a natural consequence of America dividing into two nations.
Of course, the popular term for it now is national divorce since secession is freighted with all sorts of negative connotations that have been loaded onto it by the left over the years since the Civil War.
But, you know, America does not need to be a power player in international politics.
We kind of took over Britain's position when they basically exhausted themselves in World War I and World War II.
And it was proven in the Suez Canal controversy in the mid-50s that they no longer had what it took and they passed the baton off to the U.S.
Well, it's time for us to pass the baton off to someone else or just basically tend our own knitting over here.
Abraham Lincoln did make a good observation.
He said that America is so abundantly blessed with natural resources and so naturally protected by two large moats called the Atlantic and Pacific Ocean, that I conclude that America must either endure forever or die by suicide.
Well, I think the trends suggest that it'll be the latter rather than the former on that one.
We'll see how it goes.
The game ain't over yet, but boy.
All right.
Hey, we're going to call Keith back in 30 minutes.