Aug. 21, 2021 - The Political Cesspool - James Edwards
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You're listening to the Liberty News Radio Network, and this is the Political Cesspool.
The Political Cesspool, known across the South and worldwide as the South's foremost populist conservative radio program.
And here to guide you through the murky waters of the political cesspool is your host, James Edwards.
You know,
probably only on TPC could you see an otherwise serious conversation about what happened in Afghanistan depart into a battle of the band between the turtles and the grassroots.
Now, we would never pull monkey shines like this unless it was somebody like Gene Andrews with whom we are so familiar.
So we feel comfortable enough with Gene that we can do that and not take away from a completely unrelated topic.
But yeah, so what we're going to do, folks, we're just going to let you decide.
Now, Keith and I agreed as gentlemen that they battled to a duel during the long commercial break in between hours.
And then we even interjected a little, hey, what about Gary Puckett?
You know, that was another one that's on that level of talent and hit making.
Harmony.
Well, no, we already said they were bigger.
Anyway, anyway.
Hey, you got to have a laugh.
You got to have some fun.
It's a hard world out there.
But George.
I'd much rather be talking about the turtles and the grassroots than about America in another Middle Eastern war.
Well, we don't have to worry about that, at least for today.
And I'll tell you what, we may get Gene.
I mean, Gene is a former Marine with the 3rd Division.
So we might ask him his take after we first get to the reason we brought him on.
Now, Gene was last with us.
Gene is a regular guest, of course.
He's always featured during our Confederate History Month showcase and a couple of other times throughout the year as well.
But he's back on with us again tonight because when he was on with us in July, he came on just for a couple of segments to give us a save the date announcement.
And now we're going to give you much more details, all the up-to-date news right now coming from Gene Andrews, a former commander of the Sons of Confederate Veterans, the Tennessee Division, current caretaker of the Nathan Bedford Forrest Boyhood Home in Chapel Hill, Tennessee.
And he's going to tell us, again, as I just mentioned, the details pertaining to General Forrest's forthcoming reinterment service.
We know what happened.
It's disgusting, but we're not going to focus on that.
We're going to focus on what we can do to celebrate one of America's greatest heroes and one of the greatest military leaders in the history of civilization.
How can we do it, Gene?
First of all, my friend, welcome back.
Thank you, James.
Really honored to be on the show and certainly appreciate your invitation to be here tonight.
You've been working very hard today.
I know you were on with Eddie, and I think you may have even taped a dissident mama's podcast today.
Did that get off the ground, or did y'all have to punt?
No, I can't figure out how to do that.
I'm going to have to work on that tomorrow to try to get that done.
You know, I have no luck with electronic equipment because computers and things like that, even the cash register at Walmart, they don't work when I get around them.
Because electronic.
I'm glad I'm not the only one, Gene.
No, no, because this electronic stuff, they're like animals.
They can tell when you don't like them.
And they know I don't like them, so they don't work when I get around them.
You know what's like.
You've seen how when we talk about computers and things like that, we go from cause and effect to magic and voodoo and things like this as being what's actually going on.
I'm going to try the Zoom thing again tomorrow.
See if I can get this disaster on my desk to work and do it right.
Disaster on my desk.
That's great.
Well, anyway, I bring that up.
Gene's been working hard today and pulling some overtime.
Coming on with us to end his day of interviews.
The reinterment of General Nathan Bedford Forrest.
As we know, there is going to be another funeral for the general and his wife.
When, where, how.
Give us all the details.
All right.
That will take place on Saturday, the 18th of September at 10 a.m. at the Sons of Confederate Veterans headquarters by the Antebellum home at Elm Springs in Columbia, Tennessee.
And what you need to do for that or for Friday the 17th, the viewing, people will be allowed to come through Elm Springs there and view the caskets just like you would have for visitation for any type of funeral.
Either one of those days or both, you need to register ahead of time.
And what they're trying to do is make sure they get people in there that are Southern patriots and not a bunch of Antifas or Black Lives Don't Matter to Other Blacks.
Or, you know, these animals are going to try to do anything they can to tear up and destroy our Southern history.
And they would even come on private property and try to do that.
So what you need to do is go to scv.org, the website, click on home page, and then they have a segment on that homepage which is entitled Forest Reinterment, and you can register there.
Now, if you are in the Sons of Confederate Veterans or the United Daughters of the Confederacy, you give your name and your SCV camp or your UDC chapter and your membership number.
But if you are a friend or a relative of somebody in the Sons of Confederate Veterans or the United Daughters of the Confederacy or the Order of Confederate Rose, you can register under their name.
So what they're trying to do is get as many people as they can registered ahead of time.
And so if a busload of scraggly looking terrorists show up, they can say, sorry, you're not registered.
You're not coming on this private property here.
So that's for the two days, Friday the 17th and Saturday, September 18th, at Elm Springs in Columbia, Tennessee.
Now on Thursday the 16th, there will be also a viewing at the Nathan Bedford Forrest home in Chapel Hill, Tennessee.
And so that would be from 8 in the morning until 5 p.m. in the evening.
But the same thing.
You would register ahead of time and then be able to come there and pay your respects to General Forrest and his wife, Mary Ann Montgomery Forrest.
And so we've been working to get a lot of people to help us with parking, mainly with security.
I met last week with the sheriff of Marshall County and setting up getting one of the patrol cars and an officer out there.
We've hired our own private security.
So we want to let our people know it's going to be safe.
We're going to have a lot of people there on site and checking individuals coming in the front driveway and coming up the driveway there to the home.
And they're going to be doing the same thing over at SCV headquarters in Columbia as well.
So we're trying to, you know, over-prepare for any events that might be coming up.
And you have to in this day and age.
We have very little of our legal system left in this country.
The leftists are using the legal system to turn against us.
And they're using the terrorist groups, the anarchists, Antifa, and the Communist Party, basically, as their shock troops to attack us out on the streets or even on private property.
Well, they've been doing that since Brown versus Board of Education, Gene.
But it really was who I am.
Cranked it up to a new level last year after Minneapolis and Portland and all of these places like that blew up.
Hold on right there, my friend Gene Andrews.
We're talking about the reinterment service of Nathan Bedford Forrest, one of the South's group heroes in the world.
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Well, there's the grassroots weighing in on this, our battle of the bands.
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Gene Andrews, retired history teacher who served as a combat officer with the 3rd Marine Division in Vietnam.
As I mentioned earlier, former commander of the Sons of Confederate veterans, Gene now serves as the caretaker of the Nathan Bedford Forrest boyhood home.
And he is helping organize the reinterment service that's going to be coming up less than a month from now.
Folks, let me ask him one question.
Yeah, we're going to get to that.
I just want to say very quickly, then I'll toss it to you, my friend, that this is coming up now in less than a month.
So if you want to make travel plans, Gene has given you the dates, the times, and the locations.
Mark them down, commit them to memory.
And if you want to be there, this is how you get there.
I have told you many times, one of the most memorable experiences of my life was being able to go and witness and participate in the service of the crew of the Hundley, their burial service.
You don't want to miss the reinterment of somebody like Nathan Bedford Forrest if you've got a chance to be there.
I was interested and pleased to hear Gene say that there are some safeguards being put into effect.
If you are not a member of the SCV or any of these other ancillary organizations, you can still get in by being vouched by a member of those organizations.
And we're going to continue to get all of the details.
Keith, you got a question?
Well, my question is totally off topic.
But the question I have is this.
Gene played football for the Cincinnati Bengals, right?
No, no, no.
I had a tryout.
I had a tryout.
Did you ever play for the Quantico Marines?
Yes.
Oh, yes.
That played me.
I was playing with Memphis State every year back when I was growing up.
Yeah.
And now we didn't, the schedule I had, we didn't play Memphis State.
I was trying to think.
We played Delta State.
We played Northern Michigan.
We played Xavier.
We played Northern Arizona.
Let me see.
I'm trying to think of some of the others where we played.
The Naval Air Station down at Pensacola.
You got to see Roger Starbach play.
I didn't play against him because he was on offense and I was on offense also.
But I did see him play.
And so, yeah, we played a lot of the small colleges all over the country.
This is going to be one of those.
This is going to be one of those shows.
It's one of those, what do you call it, trivia shows.
And so Let me ask you this, getting back to the topic.
I understand that the mayor of Columbia is a big liberal.
Oh, gosh, yes.
Tell us about that.
Oh, guy's a total idiot.
Well, that's being redundant.
He's a liberal in saying he's a total idiot.
That is being redundant.
Just a little dweeb that hates the South, hates anything Confederate history.
He's trying to tell the SCV, and I don't know if they've been able to get out of this or not, but he's telling the SCV they have to have a parade permit for the hearse to bring the caskets from the funeral home in Columbia to the SCV headquarters in Columbia.
Now, the problem is the Sons of Confederate Veterans headquarters is within the city limits of Columbia.
Now, if they were a mile further down the road, they'd be in Murray County.
And the Murray County mayor is an outstanding individual, top-notch, all the way.
Wouldn't have any problem.
But inside the city limits, this Goober has to appease the, well, shall we call them the lower strata of society that lives in any city.
So that's why he's trying to give the SCV a hard time.
Now, Gene, this is taking place in Columbia.
Now, the viewing, the visitation that is going to be held at the Nathan Bedford Forest Boyhood.
That's in Marshall County.
That's in Marshall County.
That's at a few minutes away.
Marshall County, Chapel Hill, those people have been over backwards to help us.
And that's going to be taking place earlier in the week, but we're on Thursday.
And then on Friday and Saturday, on Thursday in Chapel Hill, Tennessee at the Boyhood Home.
On Friday and Saturday, it's going to be at Elm Springs, which is the name of the plantation where the SCV is headquartered in Columbia, Tennessee.
And they have this property and they have the sprawling complex.
They already have possession of the Nathan Bedford Forest Equestrian Monument.
General Forrest and his wife will be laid to rest there, hopefully this time permanently.
And there's a new Confederate Museum there.
It's a beautiful plot of land, and that's where you're going to want to be on Friday.
And then for the service itself on Saturday morning at 10 a.m., September the 18th.
Now, Gene, we've been talking about, hey, you got to be vouched for.
If you're not a member of the SCV, you've got to be vouched for by someone who is or you're not getting in.
How do people register?
Where do they go?
Which website?
What do we need to do?
Okay, go to scv.org, and then when you go there, hit the little marker, whatever you want to call it.
You know, you can tell I don't know any of the technical terms, but go to homepage, and then on homepage, there's forest reinterment.
And that's where you put in your name and all your information to get registered for that.
I'm here now, and I'm browsing around, and I'm sure I'll stumble upon it.
And if I do, or when I do, I'll let people know better where to go.
But nevertheless, scv.org is where you want to go.
And I see it right there.
Okay, ladies and gentlemen, let me just break it down this way.
Gene did a fantastic job, and it's because of what he said that I have been able to find it myself.
But if you go to scv.org there in the smack dab middle of the page, you'll see the word home.
If you move your mouse cursor over the word home, a drop menu appears, and the very first thing you can click on is the forest reinterment service, the forest reinterment registration.
And there you'll be taken to a page where you can do what you need to do.
And it's got all the information there, by the way.
By the way, everything Gene is telling you verbally here on the program tonight, it's all there in print.
If you go to scv.org, go to home, and then click on the forest reinterment registration page, and it's got all the facts, all the dates, all the times there in front of you so you can look at it at your own leisure.
You mean I actually got it right?
You did it.
I found it, buddy.
I knew we had a great guy.
I need to get me a medal.
I want to get some kind of big gigawatt to wear for that.
I see the schedule.
I see the registration for spectators.
I see the venue information, the contact, anything you need.
SCV.org, click on the home menu.
The drop page will appear.
Click on the forest reinterment.
Pete, here comes something I'm sure not related at all to anything we've talked about.
No, no, I've been waiting patiently.
We've heard all about the internment and about the caskets.
What about the statue?
The equestrian statue that was taken down in Memphis.
It's there.
All right.
The statues that was taken down, one of them was taken down was President Jefferson Davis down there at Confederate Park right on the river.
And the SCV got that.
That was part of the deal they cut with the criminals there in Memphis and got that and the Forest Equestrian statue.
And there was another Confederate park that they stole some things from also.
But that statue of Jefferson Davis is already in place right outside the new Confederate Museum there at SCV headquarters.
The pedestal and the statue of President Davis standing on top of that.
And that was dedicated, I think, back last fall.
They got that put in place.
So that's already there.
Now, the Forest Equestrian statue is we have that also at an undisclosed location in Columbia.
And once they get the general and his wife reburied in a concrete vault and they pour the concrete slab over that, they're going to rebuild a pedestal and put the equestrian statue back up on top, just like it was at Forest Park in Memphis.
So it's going to be part of the grave, right?
Once again, sir.
Yes, just as it was.
But you've really got all the information now, the who, what, where, when, and why, and the website you can go to, so it's all in front of you.
But we're keeping Gene for the rest of the hour.
We're going to talk about the man himself, Nathan Bedford Forrest, the man who you can go and honor on September the 18th in Columbia, Tennessee.
Stay tuned.
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Ladies and gentlemen, back now with one of my favorite people in the world, Gene Andrews.
And I'll give you a little history on Gene, and then Keith wants to start this segment in earnest before we toss it back to our dear good friend.
I first met Gene unexpectedly.
I didn't know him at the time.
And he was giving a speech at a Council of Conservative Citizens meeting probably at the early part of 2010, 2012, something.
29, something like that.
I had him in Nashville back then.
That's right.
He gave his Fort Pillow presentation.
And I watched that and I was completely spellbound.
And I said, you know, this is stuff that should be on PBS or C-SPAN or the History Channel or something like that.
Forget about Ken Burns.
He's got real action.
It was incredible.
And I said, we got to have him on the radio.
And of course, he started making regular appearances.
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And he's done the Fort Pillow presentation on the program.
But much more than that, when we started having our own conferences with TPC, starting with our 10-year anniversary conference, I had Gene asked him, and he did us the favor of coming down there to give that Fort Pillow, that same Fort Pillow presentation that I watched at the Nashville CFCC years earlier.
He gave that presentation to open our 10-year anniversary conference.
And I have had Gene speak at every single TPC conference I've ever done.
And he, of course, led the tour we did to Fort Pillow when we chartered a bus for our audience.
Gene is very much a big part of the fabric here.
And Gene, I thank you for that.
I thank you for your service to the Confederate cause and to our southern patrimony and to our southern people.
But I thank you for your friendship and your willingness to go out there and do the jobs that most Americans refuse to do.
Well, thank you, James.
I appreciate that.
And I do have a request since the show tonight is sort of on a southern theme for our next bumper music after the break.
We need to have you play Charlie Daniels, The South's Going to Do It Again.
So we're proud you're a rebel because the South's going to do it again.
There you go.
All right.
Well, I'm Charlie Daniels.
It's going to curtail our grassroots and turtles battle, but I'll tell you, we'll do it for you, Gene.
You call it a favor.
We can make that happen.
Keith, you had something you wanted to say coming back.
Oh, go ahead.
Go ahead.
About the Forrest statue.
I think it is, without a doubt, the finest equestrian statue I have seen anywhere in the world.
It beats anyone that I've seen.
And it is beautiful.
Compare this with the crazy, dumpy statue they have of Martin Luther King that they've erected in Washington, D.C.
It's like now.
Yeah, it looks like one of those Chinese soldiers in a Chinese emperor's.
Terracotta.
It's just ridiculous.
But this is our heritage.
This is our history.
They're trying to drive our history underground.
Oh, absolutely.
I think what has happened now, the fact that Memphis was able to run it out, this is a consequence of white flight.
This is what happens when you leave places like Memphis.
What's left can desecrate your history.
Like they used to say, General Forrest and his wife are now going to a better place.
Now, it's alarming to hear that liberalism has crept into the mayor's office at Columbia, but I know it hasn't at Chapel Hill where you are.
No.
We need to have our statues and our history out beyond the grimy mitts of BLM and Antifa and left-wingers generally.
And this is something that we need to get behind as people who have Confederate veterans in their ancestry.
Yes, sir.
We need to protect that history.
Gene, I think.
You know, here's an ironic.
Go ahead.
Oh, here's an ironic point.
You know, when they took the Forrest statue down back, I think it was December 2017.
I'm sure y'all were just as upset as I was and wanted to see a nuclear strike brought in on Memphis.
But, you know, in the long run, that's the best thing that could have happened because that statue was taken down, put in a warehouse, and then through litigation and Edward Phillips and the Forrest family and the suit they filed against the city council and the mayor of Memphis, we got it back.
If that statue had been standing last spring and last summer, when everything blew up from Minneapolis to Portland to all over, it would have been torn down and torn to pieces.
The animals would have gone wild and had a field day down there tearing that statue up.
So as angry as we were at the mayor and the city council in Memphis when they took it down, just by the hand of God or whatever you want to call it, that saved the statue, really.
I think, well, the Lord does work in mysterious ways.
That's cliche, but it's true.
And I think you may be on to something there.
And of course, it's more than that.
Just like in Afghanistan, there is an element of a money grab going on here.
What people who are not in Memphis or have not visited Forrest's grave don't understand is that the University of Tennessee's medical complex encompasses all of the surrounding blocks.
And this park, it's a very huge piece of real estate where Forrest was formerly buried, the erstwhile Forest Park, is right in the middle of this district.
And you're talking about multi, multi-million dollars.
They've always cast covetous eyes on that park.
The only surrounding property is an empty office max and a Scottish Rite temple.
Everything else is part of the medical complex.
But, I mean, so there's that, I think, that played a role too in all of this.
And of course, it's a disgrace what has happened, but since it has been thrust upon us, we're going to make sure he is honored and given the respect that he deserves.
But, Gene, let me ask you this.
There's no doubt that Nathan Bedford Forrest is another target of unbridled and irrational hatred.
Do they hate him because they're jealous and incapable of the honor and heroism that he possessed?
They're capable of being a man like that.
Yeah, they're very, well, there are absolutely no politicians with the character and the intestinal fortitude and the courage and the leadership and the determination that Forrest had.
There are none, zero, today that even can come close to him.
Well, just think about Bill Lee, for example, the governor of Tennessee.
What a shameful thing.
Slick Willie?
Yeah, Slick Willie pulled a fast one on us.
That lying dog campaigned as a conservative, and there were SCV members that asked him directly to his face, will you protect our Confederate monuments?
Oh, yes, I will.
Yes, I will.
We voted for him, and I voted for him once.
I'll never vote for that lying SOB again.
We voted for him, and he wasn't in office six months until he started crawl fishing and backing out.
And he appointed a bunch of blacks and a bunch of lackeys to the State Historical Commission and the Capitol Commission.
And they were the ones that voted to remove the Forrest bus.
So now Slick Willie can throw up his hands and say, oh, oh, I didn't do it.
I didn't do it.
The Capitol Commission voted for it.
I didn't do it.
Well, yeah, Bozo, but you're the ones that pointed your yes men to the Capitol Commission.
And the only people you appointed were ones that were going to vote to get rid of the Forrest bus.
He's Tennessee's version of Nikki Haley.
I've got one that even tops that.
When Jim Strickland was running for mayor of Memphis at a fundraiser, I asked him specifically in front of witnesses how he stood on the Forest statue in Forrest Park.
And he said he was all for keeping them.
Another guy that would lie when the truth would sound better.
These people, Jim Strickland, by the way, he doesn't have the same profile, I guess, nationwide as Bill Lee.
He kind of reminds you of the combination between the Michelin man and the Pillsbury Doughboy.
He's this overweight wimp who moved down here from Indiana.
Oh, that's great.
That's who we need.
Yankees running our government for us.
Yeah, and everybody thought that he might stand up for white heritage in some way or Confederate heritage.
Forget about it.
No, when the wind blows, they just tip over.
That's all.
That's all it takes.
And they look at the constituents of what we've, and y'all were talking about white flight and what we have left in these cities.
Well, Nashville's no better.
I mean, you know, they got that doofus cooper for a mayor.
This idiot was telling the rioters and the looters to wear your mask and maintain social distancing.
Now, how brilliant is that?
People that are going after businesses in downtown Nashville.
So the riders and looters paid him back by breaking into the courthouse and setting the courthouse on fire for him.
That was good.
Well, you can say this about it.
Everything that is wrong is all right with them.
Yeah.
He's got a Harvard degree and a degree from Vanderbilt.
So he's so much smarter than the rest of us.
You know, we just peons out here working on them.
We need just to sit back and buy our batteries.
When we come back, we've got one more segment with Gene Andrews.
We've done the work that we brought him on to do, but as promised, and that is, of course, give the dates and the times and how you can be a part of this reinterment service for General Forrest and his wife.
Go to SCV.org.
We've given you the instructions.
We've given you the information.
I'm going to talk about Forrest as a man and why Gene Andrews respects him and admires him so, as we all do.
We'll be right back.
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So we know that the hatred of white people has become particularly bloodthirsty.
And so it's gone so far now as they're actually exhuming the bodies of our heroes in an attempt to disgrace them.
It has become the official policy of the United States of America's government now.
And so that's what's going on here.
A couple of things, though, that I want to bring to Gene's attention.
He already knows this, but I want to get his reaction to this.
It doesn't matter much, but Confederate sailors, soldiers, and Marines who fought in the War of Northern Aggression were made U.S. veterans by an act of Congress in 1957.
That was U.S. Public Law 85-425, Section 410, which was approved on May 23rd, 1958.
This made all Confederate veterans equal to all U.S. military veterans in terms of their status, in terms of how their graves, for instance, should be.
Legal rights.
All of that.
But much more than that.
I think that's interesting, and I think that that should be remembered.
But General Forrest's mortal enemy, General Sherman, said after the war, he described Nathan Bedford Forrest.
Now, we remember during the war, everybody knows General Sherman made the remark, Forrest must be hunted down and killed if it costs 10,000 lives and bankrupts the Federal Treasury.
That's widely known.
What he said after the war might not be as widely known.
What he said is, quote, General Forrest was the most remarkable man our war produced on either side.
That is what his greatest enemy during the war had to say about him.
And I've got another little historical anecdote here, Gene.
In September of 1870, the Shenandoah Herald reported a conversation, reported on a conversation between General William DeCumste Sherman and General Nathan Bedford Forrest on a riverboat somewhere on the Mississippi River.
This was five years after the war ended.
The article reported that Sherman explained to Forrest during this conversation they were having together over drinks, no less, all the trouble that Forrest had created for him and that it filled not only his every waking thought, but his dreams as well.
Sherman told Forrest that he would have nightmares about Forrest regularly.
Forrest replied by telling Sherman that if he had been given the command that he had asked for, that he would not have only haunted his dreams, but it would have been a real nightmare pressing on Sherman's flanks and that his march to the sea would have never happened.
Now, these are two mortal enemies being able to talk about this and come together and have a drink and share war stories.
The people who litigated war against Forrest and his countrymen, they made their peace with them.
But the people who now live nearly 200 years after that, they know better than the actual people who fought against the South.
And they have hatred for the South that the people who actually engaged in this terrible atrocity never did.
There's something about that that's worth commenting on.
I would ask your reaction to that, but most importantly, Gene, I want you to remind the audience as we consider how we can get to this reinterment service and participating in it, why you respect Nathan Bedford Forrest so much and why he should always be remembered.
He was against secession, and he voted against secession.
He thought it was bad as a businessman.
He thought it was bad for his businesses that he had around the Memphis and northern Mississippi area.
But once his, as Lee was against secession, but once his state voted to leave the Union, he went with the Confederacy just like Lee did in Virginia.
Once Virginia left, Lee threw his lot in with his state.
And what we don't understand today, and the people that attack our southern heroes don't understand back then, the local government was our most important government.
The government of Shelby County, the government of Tennessee, and then finally down the list was the national or federal government.
So Forrest and Lee both saw that as defending their family, their home, their neighbors, their church, everything in that area.
We do not have that much attachment to our homeland today, like those people had back then.
We moved from California to New York, from New York to Michigan, from Michigan to Alabama to Florida.
You know, we just jump around all over the country.
We don't have that same type of attachment to our— That's one of the consequences of the Civil War, that the outlook of antebellum Americans, both North and South, and their devotion to their states has totally changed.
Absolutely.
Absolutely.
And even, you know, before the passage of the 14th Amendment, we were citizens of states.
We were not citizens of a national mythological government off in D.C. somewhere.
But with the 14th Amendment, we were made national citizens, and the states were made submissive to the national government.
So that's something that we lost with the result of that war as well.
So I think people today just cannot understand how somebody like Forrest or those Confederate soldiers, any of them, sailors, Marines, could lay their life on the line and go through the hardships and the wounds that they suffered and coming back into the military and being wounded a second and third time,
Forrest shot five times during the war or wounded five times during the war, and go through something like that to try to preserve what they thought was the original intent of this country and what it was set up to be.
And we have gone so far away from that today, and there's been so much brainwashing in our schools that you talk to these little wokies that are out there protesting, you talk to them about history and the character of the individuals that lived in the 1800s.
They have no idea what you're talking about.
They cannot even comprehend that because that is something that they have totally nothing like that, nothing like that in their lives today.
It's totally gone from their lives.
Forrest may as well have come down in a spaceship and landed here as try to explain to these people why Forrest and Lee and Sam Davis and all of the Confederate heroes that we honor are so important to us.
And they've been so brainwashed after the last two or three generations that they just, you can't even talk to these people.
Because I've been to these protests and tried to talk to these people.
And you might as well talk to that wall on the other side of the room there as try to talk to some of these people about historical facts.
They don't deal in historical facts.
It's all emotion and what they feel and what they perceive as being social injustice and equity and all these terms that they throw around.
But as far as historical facts, they're totally clueless.
Well, it's the most common denominator thing of Gene.
What it is, slavery and Forrest are associated.
He was a slave trader before the war.
Well, so were a lot of people.
I know, but see, what they want, as far as they're concerned, slavery was the only cause of the Civil War, the only cause that they will allow to be discussed.
They want history to serve their woke agenda.
And that's why, one, you have the slavery connection.
Two, you have Fort Pillow, which was basically just a ploy by Lincoln's reelection committee to try to raise up a kind of anti-Southern feeling among Northerners because he was running against George McClellan in 1864 for the presidency of the United States.
Lincoln was.
And there were a lot of people that they called copperheads up there, like the governor of Ohio, that basically wanted to make peace with the South and let the South go their own way.
So because of propaganda, and also slavery was another piece of propaganda by Lincoln.
He basically made the war in 1863 into a crusade against slavery to keep England out of the war because England was unique in the world as being the only nation in the world that had ended slavery legislatively.
And he knew that England was unlikely to get in the war on the side of the South if he made it a crusade against slavery.
Well, I mean, again, the whole thing, Forrest is remembered for what he did as a soldier and what he did as a soldier with no military training is beyond historic.
It's almost mythological.
And I've said that before.
He is a hero.
He's an American hero.
He's a military hero.
And you will be able to pay your respects to him, ladies and gentlemen, on September 18th at the funeral, but for the two days prior to that at both Chapel Hill at the Boyhood Home and then again that Friday at a viewing at Elm Springs in Columbia at the SCV headquarters, scv.org for the Son of the Confederate Veterans SCV.org.
Right there in the top middle of the page, you'll see the word home.
Put your cursor over that.
A drop menu will come down.
The very first option is the forestry interment service.
You have to either be a member of the SCV or an ancillary organization or have someone who is a member give you a vouching.
And then you can be there.
And we want you to be there.
Gene's giving you all the information.
You can further study it at the website.
And we want to thank Gene again.
Gene, thank you again.
James, thank you.
Let me say one last thing for you too, buddy.
Tell people why it is that I think he's hard to get.
Why Sherman said it is, you know, I think he's probably the preeminent soldier in the Civil War.
Perhaps of all time.
Hey, you'd have to put him up in all time, all-time war heroes of any generation, of any war of any time.
We'll be back with the third hour of Virginia Abernathy.
We're staying in Nashville.
We're going from Gene's house right on down the road.