May 9, 2020 - The Political Cesspool - James Edwards
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You're listening to the Liberty News Radio Network, and this is the Political Cesspool.
The Political Cesspool, known across the South and worldwide as the South's foremost populist conservative radio program.
And here to guide you through the murky waters of the Political Cesspool is your host, James Edwards.
Well, it's certainly been a unique show tonight, even if because of unfortunate circumstances, that being the passing of one of our local friends and supporters, but it has brought together a great group of people, Rich and Janice Hamblin, Matt Goodwin, of course, yours truly, Keith Alexander, in the studio, as always.
And even my wife and children are here tonight with one on the way.
Well, anyway, I'm James Edwards.
This is the broadcast for Saturday evening, May the 9th.
And what we're going to be talking about this hour is what's really going on in South Africa.
So, you know, we've always taken an interest in South Africa for obvious reasons, and typically coming on to provide us with updates from a first-person eyewitness perspective is Simon Roche of Sightlanders.
For whatever reason, an oversight being the main one, we didn't get to South Africa during the world tour we did in March.
Of course, our longtime correspondent, Jack Ryan, has been in South Africa since January, and we figured we would catch up with Jack when he got back stateside.
But the problem is coronavirus did, and we're stranded.
He is stranded there.
He's stranded and can't get home.
And he said, well, I'm willing to stay up to three in the morning if you'll have me.
And so anyway, Jack came on last week for an hour and talked about what he has seen, his perspective.
But it wasn't a full perspective in terms of he hasn't traveled the country as extensively as Rich Hamblin has done.
Rich has gone over to South Africa twice for three weeks on each turn.
Jack has obviously been there since January, but he is there as a tourist, and he is there in Cape Town and seeing the sights there now under lockdown.
So anyway, with that being said, Rich, as I just mentioned, you've traveled the country extensively on a couple of different trips, six weeks total.
Where should we begin?
It's, well, to give Jack his due, he did go there as a tourist.
I mean, he basically said he wanted a change of scenery, and he ended up in Cape Town, which is a beautiful place.
We went there on our second trip, and he was describing what he saw, and unfortunately, he hadn't seen very much, I guess.
I mean, I was really excited when you announced previous week that he was going to be on the show because I said, great, here's somebody that's stuck in South Africa, and they can talk about what's the effects of the lockdown and what the situation is on the ground there and so on and so forth.
And then I was kind of, you know, a little let down.
And all we got was basically a travel log of him in the luxury suburbs of Cape Town.
Well, we didn't get into what's really going on in the places that the tourists wouldn't normally trod, but you're not a normal tourist.
Well, we went over there on fact-finding missions, pretty much.
I've had an interest in Southern Africa since the days of the Rhodesian bush wars and back in the 70s and have kept up with it more or less.
And then we became good friends with Simon Roche of the Sightlanders, who was when he was here on his America tour.
And in fact, he and I and Matt Goodwin and Eddie Miller and Gene Andrews drove up to Charlottesville to participate in the Unite the Right rally up there.
He was there as an observer, and we were there as participants, and we were on the ground there, and I was on the ground, literally, actually, in front of the parking garage.
But so we became good friends with him, and he kept saying, come to South Africa, see the situation for yourself, meet people, talk to them, and find out exactly what's happening for yourself.
Don't believe the media because the media is not going to give you a balanced view of what's going on.
And so we said, okay, fine.
So we went the first time in December of 2018 with the intent of being there for the, what was it, the 180th anniversary of the Day of the Vow, which was on, which is on December 16th, 1838.
So we were there for the 100 and whatever that is, anniversary of it.
And there was a nice ceremony there on the Orange River.
And we were received well.
And, you know, we got to meet a lot of people from all over South Africa, people that we saw again on this last trip we went.
And so we made some friendships over there, and we keep in touch with these people.
And Janice and I are always, we're watching YouTubes, and we're subscribed to services that provide news of what's actually going on on the ground over there.
So when I heard Jack talking about what he saw in South Africa, I'm going, man, is he even talking about the same place?
Even in Cape Town.
Cape Town, you must understand, is not representative of South Africa.
It would be like saying that you spend time in Los Angeles and you think that the whole United States is like Los Angeles.
It's not like that at all.
Cape Town is a very wealthy area.
It's highly developed from the late 1600s.
And so, I mean, it's had a European presence there.
And it's a banking center.
It's a jet-setting center.
I mean, all the resorts are down there and so on.
So you have a lot of European money that's slowing in and out of there.
And it's built up pretty well.
And it's run by a party called the Democratic Alliance, which is separate from the ANC, the African National Congress.
So they keep things picked up a little bit more, a little tighter, and so on.
But that being said, there's only 600,000 whites in Cape Town.
There's about 600,000, what they call colors, Cape Colors in Cape Town.
And there's about 2 million blacks.
So, I mean, it's a very big city, then.
It's a big city, and it's got a large minority population.
And it sounds like Jack was not exposed to it.
Well, right.
I mean, so look, I mean, it was interesting to hear, even if it was Jack's reflections and perspectives from his vacation.
That was his vacation.
That was his story.
But with what we typically associate with South Africa, he didn't get into because, again, he didn't see it.
You have read more about it, and you've certainly been to more vast and varied parts of the country.
So that's what we're having you back on for to give people the other side of the reality of it.
Yeah, that being said, I mean, I listened to the replay of Jack's hour three times because I really couldn't believe some of the stuff he was saying, actually.
But that being said, Jack's there for a tourist vacation.
We went there for a fact finding and we found out facts.
And to talk about South Africa, there's about six key things that are going on there.
And if you make a report on South Africa and you leave out the farm murders, the enormous amount of crime there, the Cape Town status, stature as a world leader of organized crime, I mean, it's got the highest crime rate in the world.
I mean, that's just a fact in Cape Town.
I mean, there's murders and violence and everything going on there.
There's unbelievable levels of unemployment in South Africa right now, especially with the lockdown.
There's gross corruption from the ANC.
They've looted trillions of random economy there in the last 25 years.
And right now, the economy is imploding because there's no work going on.
And there's a population of somewhere between 55 and 85 million people in South Africa.
Of that number, maybe 6 million are white, and there's probably about 6 million colored.
And then the rest of them are various blacks.
And you got to understand.
Now, remind us again of the difference between a colored and a black.
A color is, we'll get to that one.
Oh, what a cliffhanger, folks.
We'll tell you, because here they would be interchangeable.
That might be what you would have called them a few decades ago.
Anyway, Rich Hamblin's perspectives and eyewitness observances.
Having been to South Africa a couple of times, spent nearly two months there.
We'll be back.
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All right, welcome back.
Rich and Denise Hamlin in the studio with us live tonight and talking about family dynamics, relationships, the traditional roles, the God-ordained roles of men and women.
But now with Rich Hamblin, we're talking about South Africa.
So last week, of course, as we've mentioned a time or two, we had our friend Jack Ryan on who gave us the observations he's made from his vacation and that has now been extended indefinitely as a result of the lockdown.
Well, of course, some of the things Jack didn't see and hasn't seen on his vacation in Cape Town has been the farm murders and some of the desolation and some of the economic collapse that has gripped South Africa in recent decades since the fall of apartheid.
And that is something that Rich Hamblin knows well.
And so going back to Rich, Rich, you're sharing with us some of the things that are going on in South Africa currently.
Now, you were on last year.
We did a couple of shows on this.
Simon's been on in the meantime.
We haven't covered South Africa until last week, really much at all in the last few months.
So this is an important update.
It's going to bring us up to date.
But before you continue, we were talking about the difference in South African parlance between coloreds and blacks.
Yes, the coloreds are generally a mix of the indigenous people that were in the Cape, who are the Khoi people or the Khoisan.
And they're diminutive in stature, fine-boned.
They're not really suitable for enslavement, so they were never exported as slaves.
But they were gradually, you know, they made deals with the Dutch when they moved in there and traded lands for compensation and all this kind of stuff.
And they grown into a fairly good-sized population in Cape Town.
Now, one thing I'll take issue with Jack is Jack said that the colored areas were more squalid than the black areas.
Now, the blacks are, when we talk about blacks in South Africa, we're talking about Bantus, the tribal people, who generally came down from the north, northern parts of Africa in the 17th and 18th centuries.
When the Dutch came to South Africa, it was largely an uninhabited land because the climate was too extreme for people from equatorial Africa.
So there wasn't a whole lot of blacks that came down.
The blacks have only started migrating with Shaka Zulu in that area, starting back in the...
Now, that's interesting.
That's interesting.
Now, we've covered that before, and it has been mentioned before, but it should be mentioned again.
When the whites settled that region of Africa, South Africa, it was virtually uninhabited, for the most part.
Correct.
Yes.
So it wasn't like they were coming in there and shifting blacks off their land.
They just weren't there.
They didn't come until whites made it a garden spot.
Made it, yeah, habitable, I guess that's the word to use.
So the colors that were retaining identity, for the most part, colored speak Afrikaans as opposed to English.
The blacks are mostly, will speak English or a tribal language.
You've got to understand there's 11 different languages spoken in South Africa.
South Africa is basically a creation of the British Empire.
In fact, it used to be called the Union of South Africa.
And you had the Cape Province, which is roughly mostly the Western Cape, the Northern Cape, the Eastern Cape, as it exists now.
And then you had Zululand, and you had Nantal province, and you had the two Boer republics, the Orange Free State and the South African Republic of the ZAR, also called the Transvaal.
And this was all united as a result of the outcome of the Boer War in 1902.
The union was formed, I think, in 1910, is where it was.
That's when they adopted the flag and it moved forward.
So you've got a heterogeneous population.
The colors do not like the blacks.
The colors are very middle class.
And Simon Roche says they're as middle class as you can imagine.
Every year in Cape Town, they have this cultural festival or a music festival or whatever you want.
It's time to get a big celebration, and they call it the Coon Fest.
And it just drives the ANC government up the wall.
And the ANC has tried to get these people to change the name of it.
And the colors are basically thumbing their nose at the ANC and retaining that name.
Now, the distinctions of black, colored, Indian, and white are legal distinctions under the apartheid regime, under the apartheid government.
I don't call it a regime.
It was a government.
It was a legitimate government, which was turned over to majority rule in 1994 and became the rainbow nation that we know and love today.
Yes, Keith was asking me about Mahatma Gandhi.
Yes, he was a newspaper man of Indian birth in South Africa because the British imported a lot of Indians.
Most of the Indians that are in South Africa are a result of being imported by the British as labor during the colonial period.
And there's quite a few of them in South Africa.
There's big communities throughout.
So that's the question of, I hope that answers your question about colored versus blacks.
It certainly did.
Okay, now please continue.
And rather than, you know, there's a few other things that Jack said, and then I'll leave Jack alone.
He was talking about the exchange rate being good for Americans.
It's 20 to 1.
Well, bear in mind, throughout the up until the 80s, the exchange rate between the Rand and the dollar was $1.5 equals one rand.
That's how strong the currency, that's how strong the currency was then because of well-run government, natural resources, commerce.
I mean, it was a functioning first world country under white rule.
And when you travel throughout South Africa, you can see vestiges of what was the grandeur of South Africa.
There's more of it left in Cape Town than anywhere else because there's money in Cape Town and the international community has their eyes on Cape Town.
And I think the parliament meets in Cape Town.
But when you go, you travel to other towns throughout the provinces and even large cities, they're basically run down.
I mean, it's sort of like going into downtown Memphis, you know, and you see what it looks like.
There's trash everywhere.
There's weeds growing up in the sidewalks.
There's broken down fences, buildings burned out, all this kind of stuff.
I mean, it's just really a society in retrograde.
There's approximately 6 million taxpayers in South Africa.
There's like 18 million people on the dole.
They get what they call social grants.
So, I mean, it's a tremendous welfare state.
And it's breaking the back of whatever productive economy was still there.
So, yeah, 20 to 1 is great for a tourist, an American if you got a strong dollar, but it really, it really sucks for South Africans because they're seeing they can't buy anything.
Their standard of living is just being driven into the dirt, Except for the extremely wealthy people, the jet setters, they're doing quite well.
And of course, the ANC government's doing quite well, the government officials now, because they're basically robbing the country blind.
There are a lot of Germans, Swedish, English, tourists, people that have summer homes down there.
I mean, people like Elon Musk and people like that, of that genre.
There's a fairly large amount of Jews down there still.
Jack said there wasn't any real hostility between the white population.
He said it's not as bad as it is here in the United States.
A little bit different because back during the 70s and the 80s, Israel and South Africa were both pariah states in the international community, so they surreptitiously assisted each other with whatever they needed, trading and whatever else.
And of course, the Israelis probably got the materials they needed to manufacture their nuclear weapons out of South Africa.
And once that was accomplished, they basically kind of, you know, they turned their back on it.
People call the Israeli occupation of Palestine the apartheid regime of Israel.
And that's really, it's an insult to apartheid to call them that because that's not apartheid in South Africa was, I mean, it just meant separate development.
And it was established, or the chief architect of it was Hendrik Vervort, who was assassinated by the globalists in 1966.
He was extremely popular with the white and black population, and he was basically trying to carve South Africa up into constituencies that would match the populations that lived in them.
So there would be, you know, an independent place for the Petty or an independent place for the COSA and so on.
But that all ran counter to what the internationalists wanted.
And so he paid for it with his life.
And since then, it's been kind of a sellout.
When the music started, I looked at the clock and I was thinking, how are we already halfway through this hour with Rich Hamblin?
But we're talking about South Africa.
I love insight.
Anybody can go on the internet and read and get on here and recite what they've read.
I like people who have been there, who have seen it, who have certainly studied it as well, but have seen it with their own eyes and have traveled.
And that's what we're getting tonight.
The Insider's Take on South Africa.
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All right, folks.
Always great to have on someone who has personal experience.
Again, eyewitness accountings.
That's what we like to do when we can.
And so Rich has seen a much different South Africa than our friend Jack has whilst on vacation.
And, you know, when you think about South Africa, again, you think farm murders.
You think rape, pillage, and carnage.
And I know, Jack, you're going to get into that with other personal observances.
Yo, yeah, we've the rather I called you Jack.
Come on Jack Rich.
I accept your apology.
The rate of crime in South Africa is just astronomical.
I mean, since 1994, the transition from white rule to black rule to majority rule, there's been approximately 500,000 murders, you know, in that time period.
For the 40 years prior to that, under the apartheid government, I think it was less than, it was less than 500, maybe even less than that for the entire country per year.
So, I mean, it's just gone nuts.
I mean, it's mostly blacks killing blacks, but there's also a lot of whites being killed.
There are two farm murders that I know of that happened in this last week.
One of them was very close to one of the families that we stayed with outside of a place called Craddock.
And that's in the Eastern Cape.
And everybody out there has, on their farms, they have big dogs.
They have razor wire around the house.
They carry weapons.
They have doors with massive deadbolts on them.
Their windows have bars on them.
We were talking about this at lunch today, and you were telling us about this.
And then I asked, I said, if they're so lucky enough to fend off an attacker and, God forbid, have to kill them to protect their families.
You said, basically, I mean, they have no chance once they go to a South African.
Yeah, if you're a white man and you defend yourself successfully against a non-white attacker, you're going to jail.
It's either you let them come in and kill you or you fight back and then you die in prison.
Yes.
So that's the choices.
And exactly.
And, of course, you know, and blacks never attack singly.
They're always in gangs because they're basically cowards.
I mean, it's part of their character.
And they'll attack elderly people on farms.
And they have a collusion of the police forces with them.
I've seen surveillance videos where they're mounting an attack on a farm, and you can see one of the blacks carrying a man transportable cell phone jammer.
You can see this piece of electronic equipment on his back with all his antennas protruding out of it.
So police have been caught participating in the farm murders, the farm attacks.
Weapons mysteriously disappear out of the police armories all the time.
They've lost thousands and thousands of people.
This begs the question, though, too, that we talked about at Lunch Rich.
And I know you've got a lot to cover with time beginning to become fleeting, but I asked, you know, what's to stop them then, if that's the reality, from just wiping out all whites in South Africa?
Obviously, the answer is nothing, but do they need them for anything?
Do they need them to keep what little infrastructure, any high-tech jobs?
Yeah, sorry.
Or are they even thinking that far?
Is it just pretty much just random?
No, I mean, that's the plan.
They've got a long, they've got a long timetable plan.
And Rama Post himself, who's the current president, was actually caught in a recording from about 25 years ago about how they were going to deal with the white population, which was to treat them like a frog in a pot of water, where they just gradually turn the heat up until they can no longer stand it.
They're trying to drive the whites out of the country for the most part.
They've got these ridiculous BEE laws of black economic empowerment, which require that any enterprise that does any business with the state or are above a certain size have to have 51% black ownership.
Now they've got BBBEE broad-based black economic empowerment, which is even more stringent.
They've got more racial laws under the ANC government than they did under the previous national government.
And most of them are anti-white.
They regularly will post job offerings and saying whites need not apply.
Right now there's a big controversy that the government is requiring that all charitable donations of food packages be handed into the government for distribution to who they think is worthy people.
So as a result, the white people are starving.
There's approximately 250,000 whites, lower class whites that live in shanty towns, squatter camps, you want to call it.
And they're out of the way because the blacks won't let them settle anywhere near a populated area.
So Jack kind of gave the impression that he said, well, people were there because they want to be.
Well, the people are there because they can't get work.
They can't get a job doing anything.
So, I mean, they're just eking out an existence in these camps, and they're filled with children.
I mean, I've seen videos of them.
We didn't actually go to one of these camps because we didn't have time.
But, I mean, they exist, and it's really sad.
Well, you mentioned they're trying to drive the whites out if they don't kill them.
Is there a place for white South Africans to go?
Not really.
I mean, when you were in Rhodesia or, you know, former southern Rhodesia, you could escape to South Africa.
From South Africa, there's no way to go except in the sea.
You know, the United States.
I mean, can they go to Russia?
Is there any place that will take them?
No, if you've got money, yeah, you can move out.
But if you're just an ordinary middle-class or lower-class person, you're pretty much stuck there.
Now, a lot of these people have been there for 400 years.
Their families have been there for 400 years.
A lot of them don't want to leave.
The one farm we stayed at near Craddock, it was, what was it, Genise?
The 11th generation of the same family in that house in the Eastern Cape.
And they had the deed to it.
And we saw the deeds.
They had the original deed.
400 years ago.
So there's not really any place for them to go.
And Europe is not very receptive to them.
Sometimes you can get to Australia.
I mean, there's a pretty sizable colony in Australia.
And some children of one of the men we knew there went to New Zealand just recently.
They found a job over there, and he sent for the rest of his family.
And there's a pretty good, there's fairly large amount of them over here, too.
But there's a lot of people that aren't going to get out of there.
And going back to what I was saying earlier, that the gradualism and all this kind of stuff, South Africa is slowly becoming a communist state because they are run by communists.
The ANC was riddled with communists, and they've got a thing called the National Democratic Revolution, where they want to remake society.
Ramaposa himself has said he wants to use this crisis now to create a new economy.
And they've got this myth, I guess, or this illusion or delusion, more likely among the native blacks there.
It says, before the white man came, everything was a paradise.
Well, we know that's not the case.
If it was a paradise, I mean, they hadn't even invented the wheel.
So, I mean, that's how developed and how civilized they were.
So they're just thinking that if they can drive all the white men, all the white peoples out, all the white, because the whites, you know, stole the land from, even though there's trees and there's deeds and everything else showing legal possession of the land, that they can, you know, that everything will be, everything will be marvelous.
They put the blacks back on the farms.
And, of course, we'll be able to feed ourselves, Ramaposa says, and we'll have nobody will starve.
And it's all this ridiculous nonsense.
In the meantime, Ramaposa and the other ANC cadres have got Swiss bank accounts and they've got multi-million dollar houses and they're driving fleets of Mercedes and Lamborghinis and everything else you can imagine.
What foreign nation has the most influence over across the white things?
What foreign nation now?
I would say China.
Keith asked, what foreign nation has the most influence over South Africa now?
Yeah, I'd say China.
China is there because China is basically doing an economic colonization of Africa.
They are going in and taking a page out of the playbook of the Anglo-American.
Yeah, I thought that was racist when we did it.
Yeah, it's racist when we did it.
But according to the ANC and the South African government, Chinese are blacks.
They are blacks as far as the law is concerned.
So the BEE doesn't, you know, it doesn't apply to them, but it does to, of course, anybody else that's got a skin like us.
Like I say, the economy is imploding over there.
The tax base is just shrinking.
There's huge numbers of people that are receiving social grants.
The national airline, South African Airways, just went belly up.
And we flew one leg of our trip from Johannesburg down to Cape Town on South African area.
And we flew from.
Well, yeah, it was a contract for South African.
And then we flew from Bloemfontein to Johannesburg, I think it was on the first trip.
But that airline no longer exists.
It was founded back in 1919 or 1920.
And it used to be known as the premier airline in the world.
I mean, back in the 60s and 70s, I mean, they had, it was like a luxury flight.
You know, almost every seat was like first class, and you'd eat off of China and everything.
I mean, it was just so different from the way air travel is nowadays.
You can't even imagine.
And you've got to remember, South Africa, in South Africa was the world's first heart transplant in Cape Town.
So it wasn't the Aztecs.
No, they did it without anesthesia.
But yeah, it was Christian Barnard.
And so, I mean, they were on the cutting edge of scientific technology and all that kind of stuff.
And nowadays, you do not want to get sick in South Africa and have to go to a hospital.
And plus the national health system is accepting witch doctors.
But maybe it would be like the Aztecs now, except the Aztecs didn't really do transplants.
They just took them out.
They didn't have to worry about putting them back in.
Anyway, fascinating, fascinating report.
We've got one more segment with Rich Ambler.
What a fast three hours tonight.
We'll be right back.
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Well, welcome back to the final segment of the show tonight, which has been a unique and unusual show, lively show with so many people actually in the studio with us.
Very rare occasion indeed, but one that has been quite interesting and enjoyable.
Well, Rich Hamlin is with us, and it's impossible to cover the entirety of what's going on in South Africa.
I mean, you could pick any single topic as a focal point, and it's been at least an hour on just that.
So we're trying to paint in broad strokes here, obviously, based upon your personal experience and observances over there.
And where would you like to conclude?
Well, a couple of things.
I mean, it's if you go to certain parts of South Africa, it's easy to believe that everything is normal, nothing bad is happening, and so forth.
I mean, South Africa is a beautiful country.
We drove, like I say, from Cape Town, we rented a little pickup truck they call a Baki, and we drove along the south coast over to Muscle Bay, and then from there went inland and ended up at Johannesburg.
And we passed through some spectacular scenery.
We went through some really old Dutch towns that still have nice museums and nice architecture.
But by the same token, we could see behind the scenes in some respect.
In Cape Town, we stayed with a couple of the sightlander leaders for that area, and we got taken on a tour of one of the retreat sectors, I guess is what you want to call it, for one group.
And it borders up to the northwest, excuse me, northeast of Cape Town.
And right out of, there's a mountain range there that's with a little town called Franchhook, which was a center for Huguenot settlements.
And there's a museum there that's very nice.
It's a very picturesque little tourist town.
You don't see the big walls there necessarily, and it's really trendy restaurants.
And it's not a cheap place.
We didn't really stop at any of the shops because we were kind of pressed for time.
We did go to the museum.
But when we left that town there and we took the road up to where the sector was defined on the mountains overlooking it, you could see down there that here's this little jewel of a town that's very picturesque.
And then right next to it, there's this area that's twice as big that's basically a black squatter township.
And I mean, and it's like I turned to our host there and I said, don't these people realize what's on their doorstep when things start going south?
I mean, haven't they given any thought to any kind of personal protection or what they're going to do or how they're going to get out of there?
And it's, you know, if you've got your head in the clouds and you're only seeing, you know, the travel log type picture of South Africa, you can see that.
Same thing with Massel Bay.
It's on the point where the Atlantic Ocean and the Indian Ocean come together pretty much.
And it's a very beautiful town, a lot of antique shops.
But there again, right next to it is a huge black township.
And these are, you know, the contrast between the two is enormous.
And when things, you know, when the court comes out, it's really going to be bad.
And driving up through the Northern Cape and then the Eastern Cape up to the Northern Cape and then into Bloomfontaine and then from there into Johannesburg, you just go through all these little places that once you get off the main highway, where you see what was, you know, what was a really highly developed farming system, towns, small towns where the residences and all this kind of stuff.
And it's just all falling into decay.
And you pass these enormous townships.
We went through, we went around the periphery of Soweto.
Everybody's heard of Soweto because that's where the big riots were back in, you know, back in the 80s, the violence that preceded the transition.
And I mean, it's just huge, huge.
Nobody pays for electricity in Soweto.
It's all stolen from ESCOM, which is one of the problems that the utility has there.
But you see these telephone poles, and it's like there's a jillion wires hanging down from them that are going into everybody's little toaster or whatever.
Just run over the ground, open ground, some of them not even covered with insulation, you know, going to all these shacks.
And nobody wants to pay.
Nobody pays for the electricity, which is why ESCOM is in such a, you know, it's got like a half trillion dollars worth of debt on it.
It may even be more than that.
But so, I mean, that's, you know, there's a South Africa out there that most Americans are not aware of because they're not going to get it on the news.
Everything's cheery, you know, about Obama going down to the Mandela's funeral and all that kind of stuff.
Right, right.
And the Rainbow Nation and all this kind of stuff.
And if you are an American tourist, an average American who's on their vacation, you're not going to necessarily see this either.
Yeah, you're not going to see this either.
And Jack said something about Kruger National Park.
Well, you know, there's a big problem with poaching up there, which they didn't have when whites ruled the country.
And we saw pictures of former municipal game reserves where they just quit feeding the animals.
And you'd see these lions who were once magnificent creatures, and they're just basically skin and bones.
You count their ribs and everything else.
I mean, it's just horrible.
The black-run governments are there to give jobs to themselves and their cronies and to pocket the rest of the money.
They'll let out contracts for hundreds of thousands or even millions of dollars for work to be performed, and then it's never performed.
And they get a kickback of it, kickback from it, and it's just, you know, everybody goes into their pockets.
And there's a mentality in South Africa.
It's a very tribal mentality that exists throughout Africa.
And basically what it amounts to is that people will put up with poverty as long as their man's in charge.
If they got bragging rights on, you know, our guy's a president and he's a COSA, you know, and they'll all go bragging, even though they're living at a shack, don't have running water, you know, they're crap it in a bucket, you know, and throwing it out in the ditch, which is, don't laugh.
I mean, there's like 40 sewage treatment plants on the Vaal River, which runs up there by Johannesburg, and none of them are operational.
I mean, it is just an environmental disaster that you just got to see to believe or smell to believe.
And I mean, there's just rivers flooded with plastic and discarded trash.
And the blacks have this mentality that as long as the trash is on the other side of the fence from their little property, they're okay.
So, I mean, they just take it and you sweep it up and then throw it over in a neighbor's yard.
And that's just a fact of life.
Now, I would imagine that the South Africa you've described for the bulk of this hour wasn't the South Africa that you would have seen in the early 1980s.
Definitely not.
Even up till the early 90s.
It's been a gradual change.
It'd been a gradual change.
And, of course, I would ask you what has changed and what has been the catalyst in this remarkable decline.
And of course, we already know it.
But before we run out of time, Rich, and we have three minutes remaining, we have to mention the Sightlanders.
What's the latest?
First of all, with three minutes to go, and again, I want to thank y'all for being here tonight.
I love y'all.
It's been a great day with y'all.
But remind everyone of the purpose and the mission of Sightlanders and what the latest updates is on their concerns.
Yes, the Sightlanders is the world's largest non-governmental prepping organization.
Their legal authority is found under the protocols additional to the Geneva Conventions of, I think, 1948 or something like that, which gives them the ability to organize themselves and defend themselves in case of a state of civil war arising within South Africa, which is a real possibility.
All the groups down there, from the extreme right to even to the ANC and the allies and stuff, they're saying they don't think things are going to last a year down there.
They really do expect for it to blow up pretty quick.
And with the government, with the economy shut down like it is and people starving, you know, the blacks are looting stores.
They're burning stuff.
Jack said there was no public transportation in Cape Town, which is not exactly true.
They got a train service, actually.
The problem is the blacks keep burning the trains up.
So they'll burn the train up one day, and the next day they'll riot because the train hadn't arrived.
The one that they burned up the day before.
So, I mean, that's how short-sighted and how idiotic they are.
You got to remember, you know, the average IQ in the country among the black population is probably about 80.
And again, you know, we're not joking around here, but I mean, you know, you look at the IQ scale and you're getting dangerously close to textbook retardant level.
Now, you know, there's only, there's probably just a minority of, but of course, even a minority of 50 million is a lot, you know, that are really adamant and really bloodthirsty and all this kind of stuff.
I think a lot of people kind of would go along and get along.
And I think the older people that had the experience of the difference between the white rule and the black rule would, you know, in private conversations, they would admit to you, the blacks would admit to you, yeah, things were better off under the white government than they are now, you know, because for one thing, they were a lot safer.
I mean, crime was like, you know, compared to now, it was virtually non-existent.
I mean, so it's not like all black crime in South Africa is directed at whites.
No, there's a lot of it directed at other blacks.
I mean, the biggest amount of the casualties during the period of struggle, as they call it, was between rival black, you know, between the Ancatha Freedom Party, which was Zulus, and the ANC, which was COSAs primarily.
And they were killing each other.
What tribe was Zuma?
Zuma is a Zulu.
Ravaposa.
Ravaposa, I think, is COSA.
Julius Malema is a petty.
The EFF, which is the economic freedom.
And these tribes, see, that's another misconception that all racial conflict is, you know, minorities against whites.
And if whites didn't exist, everyone else would exist in racial harmony.
Well, that's the myth that they have.
So before the white man came, it was the Eaton down here and all this kind of stuff.
But there are a lot of illegal aliens or whatever you want to call them, other blacks.
They're down in South Africa, and the native blacks and the incoming blacks do not get along.
See, there you go.
I mean, if whites ceased to exist, the other tribes, the other nations of the world would still be at each other's throats.
There's a group here that tries to keep order.
And isn't it the most vilified?
Anyway, that's it for tonight for Keith Alexander.
I'm James Edwards.
Thanks to Matt and Janice and Rich, and it's been a great day.