April 18, 2020 - The Political Cesspool - James Edwards
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You're listening to the Liberty News Radio Network, and this is the Political Cesspool.
It was time out and in the way.
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And welcome back, everybody, to TPC.
We're getting into the continuation of our Confederate History Month series right now in the hour to follow.
The third and final, don't go anywhere.
Mark Weber, one of our all-time favorites, one of the most regularly interviewed guests on this program of the Institute for Historical Review.
We'll be reviewing Southern history with Mark in the third hour tonight.
Always great to have him on.
You know, he was on during our March Around the World tour, even though he's a California.
And anyway, we'll get to Mark, but first, let's get to Dissident Mama making her debut appearance on the show tonight.
I came to know this incredible woman a year or two ago, probably, I believe memory serves, through our rancor with the Southern Baptist Convention, or at least it was around that time.
But nevertheless, Dissident Mama is a truth warrior, a Jesus follower, a wife, and a mother, an apologetics practitioner for Christianity, the Southern tradition, homeschooling, and freedom.
If you can believe it, folks, she is a recovering feminist, socialist, atheist, and retired mainstream media journalist, turned domesticated bell and rabble-rousing rhetorician.
A mama who's adept at triggering statists.
She's going to bang as loudly as she can.
Rebecca, it is great to have you tonight.
Welcome to TPC, especially on this month so precious, near and dear to our hearts.
Well, thank you, James.
I'm just delighted to be here.
Well, again, the privilege is entirely ours.
Now, this is Confederate History Month, and you are appearing as a part of that particular series.
But before we get into that, let's talk about your background, your bio.
How does that happen?
I mean, certainly it does happen.
And if it didn't happen, we'd be wasting our time here just preaching to the choir.
But how do you go from one thought process to the other?
How does that transition occur?
Going from a feminist, a socialist, an atheist, as you describe yourself in your bio at dissidentmama.com to what you are now.
Is that how you grew up?
Do you have parents that were college professors?
No, actually, my parents were just kind of run-of-the-mill Reagan Republicans.
And I grew up in Richmond, Virginia, went to a high school.
We were the rebels.
We flew Confederate flags at our football games.
Douglas Southall Freeman High School, you know, named after the famous Southern historian that wrote the awesome Lee biography that he won a pulitra for.
So apparently, Douglas Southall Freeman would salute the Lee Monument on Monument Avenue, going down to his job at the Richmond Times Dispatch or whatever it was called in those days.
So I kind of grew up just in Richmond, normal people being southern and not really thinking that much about it.
I was, I guess, proud of it, but I didn't really think that much again about it.
It was just kind of a part of life.
But I guess because I didn't have the warning that when I went away to a university, that that was not the norm.
So this is the mid-90s.
I graduated in the late 80s, took a while, went to college.
And when I got there, I was completely, I was completely reconstructed.
I thought as if I had never been told the truth before, that the scales were being peeled from my eyes.
And, you know, glory be hallelujah.
I could see truth now.
And, you know, I just dove into the deep end of all the crazy stuff you get in the universities.
And even in the mid-90s, it was pretty bad.
And I was a journalism major and a women's studies minor.
And I just kind of went from there.
And then I also went to the University of Wisconsin, which has been a bastion of insanity since the 1960s or before.
So I just thought I've always wanted to know truth.
And I just thought this was truth.
And because I'd never really been prepared the way that people, I think, need to prepare their kids now if they're going to send them off to the university, like this is what's going to happen, I just was blindsided.
So anyway, I kind of dove into that.
And then, long story short, fell in love with a Texan and got married and took seven years to have children and all this stuff.
And reality just had a way of gnawing at me until I came full circle.
I've been through many, many phases, but here I am kind of back to square one: traditionalism, family, trying to be a good wife and a good mom, and honoring my ancestors.
It's a much more complicated story than that, but y'all don't need all the gory details.
Well, I guess you could say, Keith, it gives us hope that there are people out there who, Keith was saying before the show, we had an hour, we have an hour-long pregame before the show tonight, and I was reading your bio.
He said, well, I went from a conservative to a hard.
What did you say, Keith?
A hardcore right winger.
But no, anyway, it's a fantastic story.
All kidding aside, Rebecca, it's a fantastic story.
I misspoke the website URL a moment ago.
We're going to be plugging it throughout the hour, but it's dissidentmama.net.
DissidentMama.net.
Let me ask you this, Rebecca.
If you had it all to do over again, would you go back to the University of Wisconsin or somewhere else?
I would not go to a university at all.
Okay, good.
Now, that is a fantastic answer.
And especially.
I think you find it like that in the South now, too, by the way.
Yeah.
In my major, journalism.
I mean, it's one of those things you just have to kind of do it.
And I probably had some good professors, and I can think of a few things I learned there, but I could have fully done that on my own, especially now with distance learning.
And, you know, one of the greatest things I ever had was a mentor who mentored me before I went to the University of Wisconsin who wrote for the Richmond Times Dispatch.
And he just kind of mentored me, you know, and helped me write tight and kind of taught me how to relate to people, you know.
So, I mean, all those things can be done.
I'm a big believer in apprenticeships and just learning as you go.
And, you know, a lot of the things I've had to unlearn, because of course, you know, back when people go into journalism school back in those days, and I assume they still do it now, they want to change the world and not report facts and all those kinds of things.
But they believe in objectivity, but there is no such thing as that.
We're all subjective.
And I actually did learn that from one of my professors that to know what your subjective preferences are and, you know, just understand that when you're trying to tell a story.
But now I'm not doing hard-hitting journalism.
I'm very much coming from specific angles and trying to relate to people who I think may be able to relate to me.
Ladies and gentlemen, we're just getting to know dissident mama, dissidentmama.net.
That is Rebecca's internet headquarters.
I am there every week.
You should be too.
Really delighted to have her on as part of our Confederate History Month coverage 2020.
A little bio.
I thought a little background on her was important for the first segment.
We're going to get into the meat of the matter next.
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Well, welcome back.
It is Confederate History Month, and Dissident Mama herself is appearing as part of that series.
And we're about to get to the southern meat of that matter.
But I thought with Rebecca making her debut appearance tonight, it was very important to share, especially with her, I think, to share a little bit with you about her background since she had not appeared on this program before.
What a remarkable transformation and what an encouraging lesson for the rest of us that that in fact can and does occur.
Keith, we need to get to the South and her thoughts on that, and that's why she's here.
But you had an interesting observation about our local newspapers since she is a retired media journalist, formerly with the establishment.
Well, our local newspaper has been sold to a national group, Gannett, and it's basically now a cut and paste job from USA Today with a few random local stories.
One thing I can say about it, that if you read that newspaper for a year, you will know everything that was ever known, said, or thought about Emmett Till, but very little else.
What do you think of your local newspaper now based on your life's journey so far?
Not much of it.
There are a couple independent things around here from kind of, I guess, neoconnie conservative to some extra special liberal things.
But yeah, I don't think the daily newspapers are doing that great of a job.
What's interesting is I kind of live out in the sticks, and there's a little community paper that you can pick up for free at the gas station.
And they actually write some really good stuff.
You know, they actually care about the community and what's going on.
And, you know, I don't really think they have much of an agenda other than just their natural subjectivity.
But, yeah, just daily newspapers, like you said, they're all owned by conglomerates.
And, you know, you've probably seen those things where it shows the narrative and everybody's using the exact same words to they speak with one voice, as we all always so often say.
I lived in the civil rights movie and I saw the whole thing.
You used to have locally owned newspapers.
National Change would buy them up.
And the first thing they would do would be to hire, I mean, to fire the local editor and bring in somebody from Portland, Oregon to be the editor of the Memphis newspaper, for example.
Yeah, so you think about, you know, Douglas Southall Freeman wrote for the Richmond paper back in, you know, the 40s and 50s.
I'm assuming his writing was much better than what's there now, you know, having read some of his stuff.
You know, Clyde Wilson, the great Southern historian, the John C. Calhoun expert, he wrote for my local newspaper back in the day.
You know, I mean, these are people that went to universities and got probably good back, probably decent educations back in the day.
You know, I mean, there was still, I'm not, you know, I was just born in 1971.
So I felt like growing up, people could disagree.
And I always loved having debates with people.
You know, I'm a woman.
Sometimes I'd cry.
I'd get all emotional, especially when I was a feminist.
But I enjoyed, you know, bandying about ideas.
And that's just not acceptable in the local newspaper anymore.
I mean, I would not be hired there, I'm sure, today, unless it was as a toilet cleaner or something.
Well, I tell you what, you landed in all right company, if I do say so myself.
We were actually joking a little bit last night about what you were doing when you were 20 and what I was doing when I was 20 with the Buchanan campaign.
But it's so interesting, and it's just, I love life, and I love the interactions I've had as a result of this work.
And being able to talk to you tonight as a part of that journey and our paths intersecting.
And it's just a wonderful thing.
Last week, of course, Easter converged with our Confederate History Month coverage, and we had a great couple of guests with John Friend and with Mike Gaddy and then Pastor Brett McAtee sort of blending it all together.
And so I'm going to ask you that too.
As a Christian, how does our faith correlate and coincide with our appreciation and our reverence for our forebears?
Well, I think ancestry is obviously an important thing.
As a recent convert of just a few years ago to Orthodox Christianity, you know, we study the saints.
And all this, all studying the saints, excuse me, all studying the saints does is let you have a glimpse into history and to see what people who came before us, what they did, how they dealt with struggle, how they dealt with persecution.
I mean, to me, it's all the same thing.
Looking at people, we're standing on the shoulders of giants, whether it be our political ancestors or ancestral forefathers here in the southern United States or Christian ancestors.
And you take the best from them and you look at their struggles and you try to learn from it.
So, you know, to me, and then April is such an interesting month.
You know, Easter changes date or whatever.
Sometimes it's in March, but typically it's in April.
And April is just this overwhelming month in southern history.
You know, you have Richmond surrendering, you know, Lincoln being assassinated.
One of my ancestors, A.P. Hill, being killed at the siege of Gettysburg, you know, right before Lee surrenders, you know, all these insane things happening in April.
It's just the firing, not to interrupt you, I know Keith wants to get a word in too, but you're talking about it.
I mean, the firing on Fort Sumter.
It literally began and ended in April in 61 and 65, respectively.
Well, of course, being in Virginia, you're going to have a viewpoint on the Eastern theater.
What about the Western theater?
What about the war in Tennessee and one of our favorite heroes, Nathan Bedford Forrest?
Have you ever had any background in any of that Confederate history?
I know way less about that stuff.
And I have some Missouri friends who, you know, are talking about P. Ridge and Jesse James and all this stuff.
I mean, I have just a light overview of that stuff.
But, I mean, I want, I'm a student of history.
I'm a student of lifelong learning.
I mean, I want to learn all of those things.
And, you know, y'all would know way more about Forrest than I would, but what I know, I like, and I see nothing that he did to be ashamed of, you know.
And that's the thing.
They were people.
They're going to make mistakes.
But the more I look at Confederate ancestors, you know, maybe even ones I'm not related to, but just the general tenor, you know, these were a noble people.
Again, didn't mean people didn't make mistakes, but I just find it something obviously to be proud of.
And I think more people should tap into that.
Yeah.
Well, Robert E. Lee, you know, Robert E. Lee casts a large shadow on the whole Confederacy.
And I think he's a perfect example of the truth of Leo DeRocher's famous observation that nice guys finish last.
I think there was only one Union town burned to the ground by Southern troops.
It's either Chambersburg, Pennsylvania, or Maryland by Jubal Early's forces under Lee to protest Sherman's March to the Sea.
Meanwhile, Union troops were engaged in total war.
For example, in Mississippi, which wasn't even a major front on the war, 43 towns were burned to the ground.
So, you know, that's something to keep in mind.
Robert E. Lee would never have countenanced what the Union troops did among his own troops.
At least that's my opinion.
What about yours?
Yeah, I agree.
You know, I have a real appreciation for the people that wanted to take the fight to the hills, you know, and fight a guerrilla war.
Hey, you know what?
We should probably come back with that because that was sort of like the Jesse James mentality.
And I think it would have been a totally different outcome.
Of course, Robert E. Lee, after the fact, after certain things came to light, said he would have fought to the last man if he had it to do over again after what the North had done to Forrest definitely would have done it.
Well, anyway, well, as you can see, folks, we're getting into the Southern history aspect of Confederate History Month right now with the United States, informing citizens, pursuing liberty.
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You know, that song is a beautiful song.
It's a historically accurate song.
It talks about Stoneman's Cavalry coming and tearing up the tracks that were supplying the last bit of food and munitions to Richmond right before the end of the war.
It is an emotional song.
The group that sings it is called The Band.
I mean, that was their name.
They also had the song The Wait, which was one of the greatest rock songs ever.
But the man who wrote that was a Canadian.
And one of the bandmates in the band was a Mississippian.
And when the Canadian writer of that song was visiting with the family of the bandmate who was from the South, he was talking to the bandmate's grandfather.
And they were talking about the South.
And he said, he said, the grandfather said the South is going to rise again.
And there was so much emotion in his voice.
And his eyes glistened as he said it.
He said, there's a song there.
And I'm going to write a song that this guy, the Mississippian in the band, could sing better than anybody else in the world.
And he researched Southern history and he researched stories.
And that was the song that they put together.
And that is one hell of a song.
That's right.
That's right.
Good on you, Keith.
That was right.
Well, dissident mama, you might know more with me about it.
We're the distant papas.
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Well, it's funny.
I was taking notes during the commercial break and I just recently watched The Last Waltz, the Martin Sports Station.
Yeah, right.
Retiring with my whole family, and we love Levon Helm.
He played Loretta Lynn's mother and Coleman's daughter.
He was Sissy SpaceX dad.
That's Lee Von Helm.
I'm a huge Loretta Lynn fan.
But anyway, Levon Helm is awesome.
And I just always assume that he wrote that.
So I'm assuming maybe Robbie Robertson did because I think the whole rest of the world.
Robbie Robertson.
Yeah.
Yes, Robbie wrote the song.
Robbie wrote the song for Levon to sing.
And if you like Loretta Lynn, you need to come to Memphis because you'll go right past her home there on the Tennessee River.
Okay.
That's awesome.
It's on Interstate 40.
When we were watching The Last Waltz, you know, there's all these hippies and they have like Ferlin Getty doing a poem during their last waltz thing.
And it's all this weirdness.
It's this mix of these southern people and Canadians and hippies and artists and intellectuals.
And it's just this weird mix.
But in the back of the very last scene, Robbie Robertson is giving like his last quote of the movie.
And there's a battle flag hanging right behind him.
And I'm just like, that's so awesome.
Why does that not happen anymore?
You know, and he still catches hell for that in interviews, and he's never really backed down.
And he tells the story of meeting Levon Helms', it was either his father or his grandfather.
I don't remember which, but whichever the one that was, they were talking about the South.
They said the South's going to rise again.
There was so much sincerity in that sentiment that it just shook him.
And that was really one of the most beautiful and heartfelt emotional songs that I think I've ever heard.
And anytime you listen to it, especially that live version of that, the version we're playing tonight is from The Last Waltz.
I didn't intend to spend a half a segment talking about this, but there is real history in that, and it's a beautiful story.
And it's amazing that a Canadian wrote it, but my God, could Levon Helm sing it?
And Levon was in Ronnie Hawkins' backup band.
He was an early rock billy sar.
You need to check out a song called Mary Lou by Ronnie Hawkins.
It's really, it's like an old blues song almost.
Awesome.
Well, in any event, we are at right now in the studio as we speak.
We are at dissidentmama.net.
And her tagline there is smashing sacred cows with a bang, not a whimper.
And that's a little bit better than ours, which is we don't worship sacred cows, we eat them.
Anyway, Rebecca has got a couple of great recent entries there, articles that she's written that we want you to read.
One deals with the coronavirus issue, which we were talking with the British barrister Adrian Davis in the Last Hour, live from London, Co-opt the Chaos.
Read that at dissidentmama.net.
Also, her most recent article, which we're going to get into in the next segment, in the next segment, we're all secessionists now.
But as we go back to our Confederate History Month coverage, Rebecca, I have been reading you for at least a couple of years now.
As I said earlier, I'm at your website every week.
You write a lot about Confederate heroes, Lee and Jackson in particular.
So let's just turn it over to you from your own personal who do we need to know about?
Well, what's the word I'm looking for?
Personal preferences, maybe?
Who are your favorite heroes?
Your favorite stories, your favorite anecdotes from the South.
Anecdotes.
Yeah.
Oh, my gosh.
That's really hard.
I like just anyone, an antidote or an antidote.
I'll do it all.
I love reading stories.
For example, I just read a book with my kids.
It's called Southern Grit by Michael Martin, published by the awesome folks at Shopwell Publishing.
And it's about, it's seen through the eyes of Michael Martin's ancestor.
And it's all about the 10-month siege of Petersburg and especially like eclipsing in the Battle of the Crater.
And, you know, Petersburg is just a little bit south of Richmond.
I really didn't know a lot of what happened there other than A.P. Hill died there.
And that was kind of like the last hurrah, like before Appomattox, like the last stand.
But just hearing about normal people who went through things we cannot even imagine.
I mean, we are all whining and complaining about quarantine.
And I get it.
There are reasons to be upset.
But the things that people went through and still sing God's praises still went out there.
They had starvation parties.
They would go out and like party together and like share carrots and beets with each other because there was nothing to eat but whatever, candle wax and stuff.
I mean, it was insane.
And they would just stick together because they had this thing that they were all fighting for and they had community.
So sometimes I think just hearing about normal stories from normal people, well, they're not normal stories.
They're insanely abnormal stories, but of normal people and how they deal with the struggle that, God, we may never see anything like that.
You know, I hope maybe we don't.
I don't want my children to live through something like that.
But it made men, you know, it made people understand that this place we're at here, it is temporary and our home here is, you know, very fallen, but you got to pull together with people to get through.
And there are things to fight for here.
So, and then just being a Virginian, you know, I love Jackson.
I love Lee.
You know, like I said, my Confederate ancestor, my biggest one, by adoption, so not even by blood, but I think he's awesome, A.P. Hill.
You know, he roomed with McClellan at in military school at West Point.
Then he was, I mean, just learning about this, then he was engaged to McClellan's future wife.
But I think that that lady's family didn't like him.
Like he had gonorrhea and stuff.
Like he knew he partied.
So I think he called himself partied.
He did.
And in fact, he had really horrible health issues his entire life.
And that's, he and Jackson did not get along because one partied and one didn't.
One ate lemons or whatever.
One party and one prayed.
And it got on each other's nerves, right?
But when Push came to shove, they were there for each other.
A.P. Hill's light cavalry was there.
I mean, he was an able subordinate and he did what had to be done.
So he was fallen and a mess and literally physically a mess.
And because of that, he's all grumpy.
But when Push came to shove, he was there.
Well, I can relate to somebody like that.
I don't have gonorrhea, but you know what I'm saying?
Like people who are, you know, you're rough around the edges.
You're barely holding it together, but you're loyal.
You stick there.
And when you're supposed to show up, you show up early and you kick butt.
Like, I like stories like that.
Rebecca, that whole era that you're talking about, it was a rolling battle that started when Lincoln finally found somebody to head the Army of the Potomac that would fight the war.
He wanted, fought.
He knew he could lose every battle and win the war because the South would run out of men and material.
And that's the way that Grant, when before you'd have a big battle every couple of months or something, once Grant took over, it was just one rolling battle until the end of the war.
It was the wilderness, Potsylvania courthouse, Petersburg, Battle of the Crater, all of this.
And Lee won, I think, every battle strategically and tactically, but he was losing the war because he couldn't replace his casualties.
At least that's my understanding.
Well, let's take a break right there.
My God, when you've got quality guests on, does a show not roll by?
My goodness.
With Rebecca at dissidentmama.net, Adrian Davis is the first hour, Mark Weber still to come.
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Well, there it is.
We are back with Dissident Mama, as Keith said a moment ago, as she's teamed up with us with the dissident mamas and the papas.
Yeah, that was it.
I don't know if they quite had our outlook on things, but they had some good songs.
Are you calling me on the cast?
No, no.
No, you're Michelle.
You're Michelle.
Awesome.
Perfect.
Okay, what I was going to say, though, before we get off it, have you ever seen the movie Santa Fe Trail?
I don't think so.
Nobody's ever seen any of the movies, Keith Watches.
It's on YouTube.
It's free.
Getting that movie.
It tells you about John Brown in Kansas and then at Harper's Ferry.
And it stars Errol Flynn as Jeb Stewart and Ronald Reagan as George Custer.
And it has all sorts of people.
It's a great movie.
You know, John Brown is a cuss word.
You can't say cuss words.
But I'm telling you, it portrays John Brown the way that we do.
Somebody wrote in the comments it must be Ku Klux Klan propaganda.
So I will check it out.
Anyway.
All right.
We got to quit having so much fun, folks.
I got to remind you to go to dissidentmama.net.
Rebecca started this blog, which is really just high quality, not just in terms of content, but in terms of graphics.
I mean, it's just a real high-quality production all the way around back in December of 2016.
So, you know, it's only about three and a half years old, but I am telling you, there is a ton of great content on there on current issues as well as southern issues.
But I can tell you, you won't have to go between many blog posts before you run into things of a southern nature.
And, of course, that's why she's on with us tonight in our capacity as host of a Confederate History Month series.
She's welcome to come on, talk about anything she'd like.
We're going to talk about her most recent column, though.
We're all secessionists now, right after we talk about her column immediately before that, Co-op the Chaos.
And it has something to do with the coronavirus.
And it's really a real nuanced take.
I think it comes as close to matching my opinion on the matter as anything I've read.
So please do check it out at dissidentmama.net.
But one thing that I found so delicious that I think really ties into our Confederate History Month coverage with regard to the coronavirus, and I'd like to get both you, Rebecca, your take and Keith's as well, is the fact that the left now, the left in the media are excoriating Trump about demanding that the governors reopen commerce saying that, well, there's something in the Constitution, you know, about states' rights and the governors don't have to listen to presidents.
Well, now that is the first time ever that the left has ever taken a pro-states' right issue.
They didn't certainly didn't take it in the 1860s.
They didn't take it in the 1960s.
Keith and then Rebecca, go very quickly.
Well, see, the left are just opportunists.
They'll grab any stick they can find to hit and beat you with.
Were they for states' rights in the 1960s when they were sending state troops in to forcefully integrate the schools?
And not only that, that was a direct violation of the Posse Comitatus Act, which was the first federal law passed by the Southerners after Reconstruction to make sure that they were never again occupied by a police force disguised as the U.S. Army.
And that's what happened in Little Rock.
That's what happened in Oxford, Mississippi.
Okay, Rebecca, to you.
So the left are totally in favor of states' rights now because Trump has said we need to have these governors lift the restrictions and reopen the economy before we all die of poverty.
But go on that and then let's get into we're all secessionists now.
Well, my mother-in-law thinks Trump's still playing like 4D chess and he said that on purpose just so they would like say that.
I'm not there.
I'm not thinking that.
I'm just thinking, you know, like he said, they're opportunists.
But I almost named my blog, we're all neo-Confederates now.
But then I thought people may not click on that.
Secession is still a pretty volatile word, too.
But I thought, hey, people might click on that.
But yeah, I mean, 10th Amendment, man, I mean, if they're embracing it, that's kind of even goes into my blog before where it's co-opt the chaos.
Everybody's throwing everything into this, you know, and the scales are falling off people's eyes as we speak on all sorts of things, all layers of centralization and who cares about us, who doesn't.
Are we really safe?
Does anybody care if we're safe?
You know, the whole shebang of 320 million people living under this thing called America.
It's all coming to a head.
So I'm just like, let's run with it.
You know, I mean, when the nation and left-wing outlets are talking about how they don't want to live with red states anymore and sheriffs are doing what they want to do in Michigan against, you know, their governor, you know, so they're even, you know, bucking the trends of their executive within a state.
I mean, I think nothing's off the table.
And I just think.
I pray every night that California will secede from the Union.
Yeah.
And Trump will be reelected and that will be their response.
Then that will solve all of our problems.
I mean, they have a huge secessionist movement out there.
I psyched the guy, Marcus Ruiz Evans, that when I went to a secession conference a couple years ago, he runs Cal Exit, man, and he said, you know, the rest of America doesn't have California values and we are the sixth largest economy in the world or whatever.
And we just think we can do it without you.
And we all said, don't let the door hit you on the way out, but we can ally with people like that who don't want to live in forced associations with each other where nobody likes each other and we're all scratching to the top to get a piece of the pie.
I mean, it's ridiculous.
Look, our ancestors are right.
We should be two nations at least, maybe three or four.
Okay, so Rebecca, a dissidentmama.net, what a fast and furious debut interview on this program.
With our guests tonight, I don't know if this is unusual because we always try to give you the best show we could possibly give you every single week.
But I mean, I think we have three guests tonight that could have dominated a full three hours and it still not have been enough with Adrian Davis, Mark Weber, of course, Dissident Mama right now, and to try to jam them in in an hour.
It's just flying by.
But do make dissidentmama.net one of your weekly reads at least.
And let's refocus our attention now, as it is Confederate History Month, to that article that we had just mentioned, the We're All Secessionists Now.
Just break it down and any parting shots, Rebecca, anything we've left on the table, the floor is entirely yours.
Oh my goodness.
Well, I guess just the gist of my blog in general is, you know, I'm not trying to reach left-wingers.
You know, I'm this former left-winger who's seen the dark side.
And so I just understand that some people can't be reached.
God, thank the Lord that I was able to come out of my stupor of insanity.
But so I think we should focus on, you know, getting people who understand, you know, like I said, red-pilled a little bit, you know, they're understanding that the gig is up, you know, that things aren't going the way they're supposed to.
And just, you know, try to set these fires under them that things are not going back to normal because we haven't had normal for 150 years, you know.
And instead of worrying about what left-wingers say and what Bill Gates says and whatever, you know, just he's not going to force me to take a vaccine.
He's just not going to.
Stop worrying about all that stuff.
Instead, build coalitions with people who you have, you share a like mind on at least some issues and build bridges.
And that's the only way, I mean, we're going to go forward.
And if secession does take hold, God willing, it won't be horrible and violent because we will have made these, I don't know, these allyships with people, these alliances, and we can build from that.
Because right now we're so disparate.
You know, I mean, all my people live all over the place.
You know, my family lives three hours away.
We need to fix these things.
And I put myself right there in the list of people who need to break bad habits and kind of get back to basics.
And I'm hoping that the horror that is this pandemic, you know, socially, physically, whatever, politically, that we can build from it.
And I just think it's a really good opportunity to, yeah, build from the ashes.
Well, we can tell your family already, Rebecca, and you and your family need to come through Memphis sometime so we can show you around.
You're already getting the personal invite.
Yeah, you need to come on down because we should not be able to talk you into moving down here.
You can show us all the safe places to go.
I would love to hang out with them.
Well, that'll be a short list.
It'll be a quick tour.
But we do have good barbecue, don't we, Keith?
We do that.
Oh, my husband, he's a barbecue man.
He would like to see what y'all got down there, that's for sure.
Well, we got to rate, according to Dr. Death on Joe Biden's coronavirus task force.
We've got to wait 18 months for the restaurants to reopen.
Plus, you go to the good barbecue restaurants in Memphis.
You'll have to dodge a few bullets, too, probably.
We're adept at doing that.
We can show them how it's done.
That's not a problem.
It doesn't phase us here.
I don't know about that.
Well, Rebecca at dissidentmama.net, what a fast hour for a person.
And I say we often joke after 16 years, we've got our regulars and we don't typically.
She seems like a member of the family already.
100%.
After one hour.
Well, we'd love to collaborate with you much more going forward.
And in all seriousness, folks, dissidentmama.net is a website you need to become well familiar with.
Rebecca, final word to you.
Oh, I just wanted to say I have felt like I've known you for a while, James, and it's just been a pleasure to speak with you, you know, in person over the phone.
And yeah, anytime, it's been a real pleasure and it was a lot of fun.
I was really nervous at the beginning, but y'all made me feel real welcome.
That's what we do.
Southern gentlemen, to the end.
And I'm glad to hear that.
I'm not glad to hear that you were nervous, but glad to hear that you were comfortable.
And I tell you what, we didn't pick up on anything.
You are a fantastic guest, fantastic interview.
And we look forward to the next time already.
When we come back, folks, Mark Weber back to talk about southern history.