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Feb. 29, 2020 - The Political Cesspool - James Edwards
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You're listening to the Liberty News Radio Network, and this is the Political Cesspool.
The Political Cesspool, known across the South and worldwide as the South's foremost populist conservative radio program.
And here to guide you through the murky waters of the Political Cesspool is your host, James Edwards.
Well, welcome back.
It is a very rare occasion that we have a guest stay with us longer than an hour.
And sometimes we don't even have a guest stay for a full hour, maybe a segment or two, a full hour.
That's not unusual, but to stay over more than an hour, that is.
But I think Tom Kaczynski deserves it tonight.
What a fantastic job he's done breaking down the coronavirus scare.
He may not be a doctor himself, but I guarantee you the information he is giving to you tonight is more credible and more reliable than you'll get from 99% of your healthcare professionals.
You know, my kid could fall off a bike.
We'll go take him to the pediatrician and they say, oh, you fell off your bike.
Well, let me give you 37 vaccines for diseases you'll never have.
And by the way, are you on Retland yet?
So this is the kind of show.
Look, TPC, we shoot you straight.
And we always have for 16 years.
And I'm very proud of that.
16 years, we shoot you straight and we bring you the guests that we think are the best suited to deliver any given message to this audience.
And that is why we picked Tom Kaczynski tonight.
But no, what you should really be saluting Tom Kaczynski for is for the reason he first became known to us at all.
And that was a couple of years ago.
He was the former town manager of Jackman, Maine.
You ask, what's a town manager?
Well, that's your mayor.
Everywhere else we call it a mayor.
In Jackman, they call it the town manager.
Well, Tom was, it became known that while serving as the town manager or mayor, if you will, he was a pro-white advocate.
God forbid.
He was a pro-white advocate.
And the national media with its full weight and fury came down on him, came down on this little town for having a man in the position of power there that was not ashamed or afraid to be white.
And much more than that, he advocated for the best interests of his own people.
Well, you know what happens nine times out of ten when that weight comes down, the people crumble, they apologize.
Tom didn't do that much more than not apologizing.
He doubled down in the face of that adversity and maintained his integrity.
And that is why I love Tom Kaczynski so much.
And Tom, that should be reminded.
People should be reminded of that fact every time you come on because you can never receive enough credit for what you did.
You set an example in a time when so few men are willing to do so.
Well, I thank you for the compliment and for the kind word.
And, you know, I always speak up for our people.
That's a goal for me.
And one of the things that, you know, I do is I say the truth, just like you guys do here in the political cesspool.
And even when it's hard, I tell you what I think.
And look, I know a lot of people don't draw the same conclusions I do.
They don't draw out about politics that we've been right about that.
And with this virus, the same thing applies.
I'm saying things that if I'm wrong, people probably won't ever believe me again.
But I'm saying it because my conscience would not allow me to not speak.
And I say what I think.
And right or wrong, you get an honest opinion from me.
So I appreciate that.
And I appreciate your friendship as well.
Well, I appreciate your friendship.
That has been the greatest payment that I have received over the course of these 16 years we've been doing it.
I mean, we scrimp and we scrape and we barely make it.
And we're always, you know, hand to mouth and donation to donation to keep this show on the air after 16 years, even in spite of all of the national and international publicity we've gotten.
It's a tough road to hoe.
And we're in our, by the way, folks, and I'll mention this at the end of the hour, we're in our first quarter fundraising drive for 2020 just started yesterday.
We'll give you more information about that in a minute, but don't forget us.
Anyway, another man that I respect and appreciate and admire just as much as you, Tom, and that's a high honor indeed, is Rich Hamlin.
Now, this is a guy that I came to know as a result of our work on this show as well.
And he, too, like you, has taken an active interest in the coronavirus.
Rich is a good friend of ours here at TPC, and he wanted to join the conversation for the next two segments.
Rich, how are you doing, buddy?
I'm doing fine, James.
Thank you for having me on.
Well, it's always an honor.
We like having your wife on more, but we'll settle for you tonight.
Second fiddle again.
Hey, we're familiar, Tom, so I can talk to him like that.
But no, this is one of the finest families I've ever met.
Rich and Janice Sandler.
She was on our Valentine's Day show just a couple of weeks ago.
And again, last week, for that matter.
But anyway, no, these are fantastic people.
So, Rich, you share some of Tom's concerns about the coronavirus, especially the effects it may have on the global economy and how that will affect us here.
What's your take?
And what can you share in the conversation with Tom?
Yeah, first off, I want to thank Tom for his efforts at studying all this.
I mean, he's as knowledgeable as anyone I've listened to, and I'll have to start following him more closely.
It's remarkable.
I mean, you're tackling it from a statistical and a mathematical point of view, which I think is extremely important.
The thing that concerns me the most is that even if no one in the United States gets so much as a case of the sniffles, which obviously isn't going to happen, I mean, it's going to be worse than that, our way of life is going to be affected by this interruption in the global supply chain.
China accounts for, I think, somewhere around 15% of the world GDP.
It's the second largest economy in the world after the United States.
And I'm in the construction industry.
I've got a glass business, mirror and glass company, and I install glass and shower doors and expensive houses and mirrors too.
And practically everything we use comes from China.
And we've, I mean, all the hardware comes from China.
And a lot of the glass comes from China too.
Most Americans don't really understand the extent to which the manufacturing economy here has been hollowed out and moved overseas.
I always tell people that if they can't move the factories overseas, they're going to import the labor, you know, because it's just, you know, it's dollar-driven.
It's these MBA types that are driving the economy, and nobody was really any strategic planning.
So what I'm looking at, I mean, I look at, like I say, I'm in the construction trade, and Nashville is a booming market right now, and it has been, and it continues to be.
But I was talking to one of my contractors the other day.
I said, you know, this thing's going to be bad because can you think of anything that we use that doesn't come from China?
And he had to agree with me.
So that's one of the main concerns that I have.
Obviously, the disease is scary, but I'm 65 years old.
I remember flying flu and Ebola and Zika and all this stuff that was going to kill us.
It seems like every two years, something comes along.
And I do remember back in the swine flu back during the Ford administration that nobody died from the flying flu, but a whole bunch of people died from the vaccine that the government rushed out and put on the market.
So I have no faith in the state or federal government in being able to deal with this thing in any manner that resembles intelligence.
If I can add to that, I would say that I share your concern about vaccines.
I think that this is a false promise being made.
And the desire for people to have hope for a solution that I don't think is going to bear out whether this is a very mild disease or an extreme one.
But the point being made about the number of goods that are manufactured in China is absolutely true.
And one of the things that, you know, has been a real weakness of our system and not looking at things from a nationalist perspective, is that state capitalism in China basically can use slave labor and artificially reduce prices to these monopolistic firms where the government subsidizes the hell out of the businesses in China and they're able to send goods over where no one else can compete with them because they basically are.
The government can put money into it and the WTO has not held them to account for that.
Whereas if America or other countries did, they would.
And China's become very adept at playing global institutions, whether it be the World Trade Organization or the World Health Organization.
So those fears about what happened economically, you know, corporations were chasing these margins, right?
And we had such a consumer-based economy in the U.S. where we were just trying to increase consumption all the time to never have the bubble burst.
So that, you know, and we've dealt with the price of this.
Look at it in inflation, right?
That, you know, you go to the supermarket, you buy a can of food, you look at it every time it gets smaller, it used to be 16 ounces, then 14 and a half, 12.
And instead of paying 50 cents, it's 99 cents, $1.29.
And some of that is scarcity, but a lot of it is the fact that you are having the dollar inflate like crazy.
As part of that whole network, the way we've made this work is to drive down costs.
And that's why we've ended up importing everything from China.
So like you're talking about, construction, textiles, automotive, all these industries that are dependent on Chinese-based manufacturing, chemicals, we're going to have a huge problem.
And even you say, let's go to India, let's go to Mexico, they import from China too.
So how we're going to get around this is a real problem.
And even if you don't believe a single thing about COVID, the risk of an economic depression from this is great and growing every day.
Rich, we got seconds before the break.
Anything else?
I just wanted to point out that the last ships, last shipments of goods have left China.
I don't think they're shipping.
They're exporting anything right now.
And so they'll hit the shores around March, beginning of March.
March is the beginning of March.
So I think the second week of March.
And once that's here, that's going to be it for the pipeline.
So, you know, in a matter of weeks or days, you're going to start seeing empty shelves at places like Walmart and all these other places that import the stuff.
The other thing, a good point that Tom made was about the antibiotics.
And I'm dependent on some prescription medicines, and I've heard that something like 70% of the pharmaceuticals produced in the world have a key component that comes out of China.
And if that stuff stops, I mean, I'm trying right now to get my physicians to issue me a 12-month supply of my medicine for my diabetes and my heart condition because I just know that by the time I run out of my next prescription, it's going to be hard to get.
And if nothing else, the price is going to increase dramatically because it's not going to be available.
And if you think about all these people that are dependent on psychotropic drugs, you know, to keep themselves from, you know, more or less sane, you know, and able to function in society, when that stuff disappears, can you imagine what it's going to be like?
In the 1950s, before the first classes of SSRIs came out and they still had the artist colonies for people, they estimated as much as one in six people in the United States were, by that time's definitions, insane.
And we, you know, as much as we criticize those sorts of drugs today, and you know, there are big problems with them.
Like you say, we're going to have a lot of people who are dependent who are going to be unable to go ahead and use these again.
And as well as the people who have chronic conditions and people who are on drugs where, you know, withdrawal symptoms are potentially fatal.
And hopefully, you know, someone's preparing for these people.
You are very wise to be seeking that supply.
I don't know if you'll get it, but I've read some of the drugs that are going to be in low supply, and a lot of them are related to heart problems.
So I hope you succeed at that.
I'm in here.
We have an anomaly here on the Liberty News Radio Network.
For whatever reason, the break didn't.
Well, a couple of other things I'd like to throw in the mix.
I had a long conversation today with a friend of mine who's in Hanoi, and we discussed this down there.
And plus, I've got a few things to say about Africa, which is kind of really addressed yet.
And so I had a conversation with a friend of mine named Craig, who's in Hanoi, Vietnam right now.
I met him actually during my first trip to South Africa, and we just stayed in touch, and he's doing world travel and all this kind of stuff.
And I asked him, well, what's the situation like down there?
I mean, you see a lot of people on the street with masks and is there lockdowns and all this kind of stuff.
And the Vietnamese have closed the border with China because they do share a common border.
And I think there's one major county or town that's quarantined with about 10,000 residents in it.
They had some guest workers, I think, that came from Wuhan.
So the Vietnamese will basically just shut that down.
And I understand from another source that the schools are closed right now.
But he said, otherwise, it's business as usual down there.
Nobody seems to be sick.
They don't have a whole lot of that stuff going on.
And he said Vietnam is an extremely dirty country.
I mean, hygiene is almost unheard of down there.
And in fact, they're having to run commercials on the television 24 hours a day, a video of a pretty lady showing everybody how to wash your hands.
I mean, that's how the society is down there.
Of course, which leads me into another question.
I mean, there have been rumors that Chinese are especially susceptible to this virus, and it seems to be affecting South Korea and Japan heavily, but it hadn't really penetrated Cambodia or Laos or Vietnam or Indonesia as far as I know.
Have you got any kind of research on that, Tom?
A little bit.
Yeah, I can comment on that area roughly.
You're right, Vietnam has been okay and largely because of the quarantine of the 10,000 people.
Thailand is somewhere we think the problem is spreading to.
They're only reporting 40 cases publicly, but what they've been doing is listing a whole bunch of deaths as being due to viral pneumonia far beyond what's expected.
They're now up to about 4,000 deaths from that in Thailand.
Now, Vietnam has been much better about separating themselves, as have Laos and Cambodia.
So I think a lot of that has to do with quick action from them.
And, you know, China and Vietnam have a difficult and complicated relationship that I think allowed them to separate in a way that was very helpful to them.
So we see it in clusters.
Iran has a really terrible cluster, and Italy's cluster is now spreading heavily into Germany and France.
We have over 100 cases in each of those places.
So when you talk about economic downturn and you're talking about world economies, you're going to have Japan shut down all its schools.
You have China's down.
You have Germany's probably going to go down in about three weeks.
And South Korea is down.
These are a lot of really big companies.
I mean, even for the production of American goods, who's going to consume them and who's going to move the ships between?
Because as you said rightly, the ships aren't moving.
So I don't know too much about the other ones, except I know Malaysia is starting to have a little bit happen down there, but the coverage of the medical system is so poor.
And you know, the thing is, if you're at the ground level, you don't have far to fall.
That's one of the issues that becomes real clear with coronavirus and why you don't see poorly developed areas, in my opinion, so heavily impacted, that people are so sick there anyway, they are willing to accept a level of medical issues that we in the West would consider unacceptable, at least in certain ways.
Tom, hold on right there, brother.
We have to, another break.
If we take a second break, we're all at the mercy of the computers here.
We're just going to keep on trucking.
At some point, we've got to transition.
Yeah, I want to ask you this.
Well, actually, I want to read you this.
This is from the same gentleman up in Michigan who asked the question earlier.
He said, he wrote back, thanks so much for asking my question.
Tom's answer was honest and frank and left me with confidence that despite the lack of formal medical background, his intelligence, level of interest, and degree of research makes him a very worthwhile voice on this issue.
Thank you for having him on the show tonight.
That comes from Jim up in Michigan.
I gave a speech up in Michigan in October of 2016.
Jim and I went out to lunch or dinner, I guess, afterwards and had a great time with him.
Jim is strict but fair.
He's a guy that will send in constructive criticism as much as he will a compliment.
So a compliment from Jim is high praise indeed.
Here's what I want to ask, though.
Tom, what should we be doing here in America?
No matter what the truth is about the coronavirus, what should we be doing?
And where can people learn more if they've enjoyed this conversation tonight half as much as I have?
I know you said you're doing this every day.
You've got a podcast.
A two-part question.
What can people be doing to better prepare themselves for any eventuality that may come?
And where can they continue to learn more from you going forward?
Absolutely.
Thanks for the question.
And thank you also to Jim for the kind comments.
I just tell you what I think to be true.
And I let the facts assert for themselves.
What I would recommend for people is to begin preparing under the expectation that at some point in the next month, you may end up having to experience 30-day quarantine, regardless of where you live.
If you're going to have a 30-day supply of food and access to fresh water, that would be good.
90 days would be better.
We already see that there's a run in Seattle and Portland and other places on those sorts of goods.
I do anticipate other services will stay up.
If you have critical medicines or other things that you need, please get them now.
And I don't think I need to tell listeners of the political cesspool to not believe everything you hear from the politicians and media.
So that's pretty easy.
If you want to listen to the podcast, coronaviruscentral.net is where you can find it.
We're also on iTunes, Spotify, Google Play, and I put it up on YouTube as well.
Coronavirus Central will have all the links.
And I want to thank you for having me on, James.
And if you, at some point during this, as this evolves, want me to come back, just let me know.
I'm always happy to speak to the good people down in the Southland.
Well, we're always happy to have you on.
And, you know, Tom is one of those guys that is a utility guest, as I call them.
He can speak with authority, in fact, about just about any issue we would want to cover.
And my goodness, has he not impressed tonight on the issue of the coronavirus?
Rich, your thoughts on, yeah, I know you were listening to Tom for an hour before we brought you on to join in the conversation.
Your thoughts on what he presented tonight and a final word to you.
You get the final word on this entire topic.
Well, I echo what he said about prepping.
In fact, my wife and I, this past week, we bought a second freezer, which we're in the process of stocking with stuff we normally eat so that we'll have it.
And, you know, if we don't have to use it, it's stuff we normally eat anyway.
We've gotten, we're putting in water.
We're putting in, I got just today was delivered eight 20-liter Swiss Army gas cans that I'm going to fill with diesel for one of my vehicles and gasoline.
For my generator just in case, you know, power gets interrupted or any of that kind of stuff.
Right now it's clear that president Trump is in cheerleader mode and it was a very interesting contrast in the uh press conferences over Hell over the last couple days, the one by the CDC and then the one uh following that, that Trump, you know Trump kind of tried to walk all that stuff back.
I mean, he's he's clearly concerned and I think he's, you know Trump, i'm I don't have a very high opinion of him and I think he's uh really worried that uh, this is going to affect his uh, uh reelection prospects.
And uh, I think that's also the powers to be, whoever they are, are using the coronavirus as an excuse to cover up the faltering U.s economy.
Because you know, if you look at the actions of the FED since last, what was october, when the overnight rate, the repo rate, hit 10 and then they started doing their not qe again, you know have been pumping money into the market.
Well, now I think those chickens are starting to come home to roost and we're seeing that effects in the.
You know this, last week what we had, a 3900 point drop in the Dow and um the the S?
P Five, which it should be more rightly called the Spik.
Like you know, Apple and Google and Amazon and and such uh, Apple's kind of dead in the water right now because, if you, they can't sell phones, if they can't get them.
You know, and it's the same thing.
Uh, we have friends that work at Nissan plant here in middle Tennessee and they're having to furlough people now because they can't get parts.
So when you start seeing the ripple effect on all that, Trump did say he wanted to bring manufacturing back to the United States, but that's going to take a year, you know.
So it's going to be a.
The next 12 months are going to be staggeringly bad, i'm afraid, and i'm afraid my business is going to go up and smoke, because once the uh, you know, once the once, houses can't be built and once uh, people start getting laid off and the banks start suffering, then it's listening to Liberty NEWS Radio.
Thank you, Rich Handler, thank you, Tom Kaczynski.
We'll be back later.
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Well, welcome back, everybody, to TPC.
And what a great show tonight with Tom Kaczynski.
Thanks to Rich Hamblin for contributing.
Of course, Keith Alexander, the first two hours as well.
I'm James Edwards, and it's time to do something that I hate to do on this show, but it must be done.
It is our first quarter fundraising drive without the benefits of which we wouldn't be here.
And so we have to take time to do it because we want to be here throughout the rest of the spring and into the summer.
We're a show that's renewed a lot of sitcoms or television shows, whatever.
They are picked up on an annual basis.
We're picked up on a quarterly basis here at TPC.
And for the last 16 years, you've never failed us, but we do need you again.
The reason we schedule our fundraising drives to be on a quarterly basis is because we wouldn't make it with just one or two a year, but we don't need more than four a year.
Thanks for your generosity.
We don't try to perpetually fundraise, but the fact of the matter is four times a year, we have to put an emphasis on it, or else we couldn't continue our work.
And I put on the website this week, I joke that the reason I always stand so tall when entering a room is because I walk in with the full knowledge and authority that I am going to be the only man there who has been personally denounced by Hillary Clinton and the United States Congress.
And I guess we could also include Donald Trump in the list of those who have denounced me.
But as you know, folks, we've been through a lot here at TPC.
And one of the most famous incidents is the panel of judges who once decided that I must be known by the company I keep.
That's fine with me.
I want to be judged by the company I keep because I'll never betray a brother.
But let me also be judged by my enemies because that is something that's truly distinguishing.
That is something that separates the men from the boys.
Interestingly, while the sociopaths and sellouts here at home seek to stymie our efforts, TPC is simultaneously building a network of support amongst various European leaders.
Now, we've made mention of this over the course of the last few weeks, but just a few days ago, a retired major general who fought in the Croatian War for Independence contacted me in hopes of working with us to get word of his efforts out to an American audience.
Now, this is a man who is currently a member of parliament, which is the equivalent of a congressman.
And he will be featured in an upcoming special series in March, during which we'll interview a different leader across the Western world.
So there's always something special cooking here at TPC.
And we've got the Confederate History Month series coming up in April.
So long as, of course, we have a successful first quarter fundraising drive, which kicked off yesterday and will run through the month of March.
We're making these plans in anticipation that the support will hold out.
But in March, we're going to have a different leader from across the Western world.
As I said, different European nations, whether it be Canada, Croatia, we're going to go to Australia.
We'll go to the UK.
And we're going to see how our brothers and our kinsmen are faring in those ports of call.
And of course, I'm very proud of the accomplishments we've garnered outside of the studio.
But it is our work here on the radio that continues to make the engine run.
We're in our 16th year now.
But thanks to you, and thanks to God Almighty, we're showing no signs of slowing down.
Got a great comment.
I shared it with you once before, but a listener in Virginia recently wrote, quote, I'm thankful to have an organization that I can support with a clear conscience.
There are others that I can support on certain issues, but none other than yours that I can support on every issue.
Now, as you know, folks, the success of our quarterly fundraising appeals make the difference in whether the work of our radio program can continue.
Without your support, we will not be here.
I can tell you that flat out.
We don't do this for effect or to be dramatic.
I only do this when we have to do it.
And I wish we never had to do it.
I wish we had the support of all of our enemies, and then we'd never have to bother you, and I wouldn't have to be bothered, and we wouldn't have to waste time on the radio.
But no, that's not how it is.
This is a truly grassroots endeavor.
And we've got people who donate every month.
We've got people who donate every quarter.
We have people who donate intermittently.
We have a lot of listeners who, of course, never donated.
But the fact of the matter is, without you folks, we can't survive.
Our first quarter fundraising drive kicked off yesterday.
And I'm asking you to please make a much needed contribution.
I believe that the work here at TPC is unique.
And I believe in many ways we've taken our cause closer to the mainstream than any other entity.
But forget all of that.
Even if that weren't the reality, I would still gladly suffer the slings and arrows that come with being a public leader, if for no other reason than to share in the struggle with you.
I meant it what I said earlier.
The greatest thing in $100 contribution coming in or a $50, that's what keeps us going.
That's what's always kept us going.
$25, $50, $100.
A few of you give more, but not many.
And I'm thankful for everybody.
But together, we have built something that is matchless.
And I want it to continue.
I want to continue to serve you.
You know, that, to me, after all these years has been the real prize is getting to know people like Rich, who was on the air with us in the previous segment.
All the guests that we so regularly featured.
And so many of you out there that I've been able to meet at different events and through your correspondence and emails and letters.
We've built a community here, a real community.
And that is the true treasure of TPC is that, yes, I mean, yeah, the Southern Baptist Convention bases their entire church philosophy.
Maybe not that dramatic, but I mean, they base their political opinions and pass resolutions specifically to oppose us.
And we know that.
One of the black preachers in the Southern Baptist Convention wrote a resolution specifically despite our commentary.
And it got passed by the convention.
I mean, that's power, folks.
I mean, I wish we were influencing people in different ways, or at least bodies like that in different ways.
But I mean, people respond to what we do.
We've done a lot of great things.
But the greatest thing we've ever done is build a community.
And we've got that here.
We've had it here for a long time.
And anybody who's been to any of our events and anybody who's come to our conferences, you know it.
And you feel it.
And you see it.
And it's something tangible.
I want it to continue.
If I could self-fund all of this, I would do it.
And I'd never, never, never ask you.
But I can't.
So I need you.
$100 or more, you're going to get what I consider to be the most perfect broadcast TPC has ever aired.
Now, I had my cousin.
This is how we do things.
I had my cousin and I had my brother over at my house last night.
And we packaged a whole lot of envelopes.
And we're sending them out to established TPC donors.
So you're going to find out exactly what I consider to be the greatest PPC episode ever aired.
And for a contribution of $100 or more, we're going to send you a copy of that.
And you listen to that particular three-hour episode.
And you're going to be reminded of why our work is so incredibly important.
$100 or more.
You can make that contribution tonight.
Folks, we need you.
Todd, I know you and James are listening in the man cave tonight.
We were talking about Cowboy Movies and Western said they were listening to TPC while they were simultaneously watching gunsmoke.
That's how incredible our audience is.
They can listen to radio and watch TV at the same time.
That's how big their brains are.
But listen, I love you guys.
You know how much I love you guys, and I appreciate you getting together and listening to us every week.
They come together and they crack open a beer and they listen to the show and then they do it in the man cave.
But we need y'all's support.
We need the support of the people who donate occasionally, the people who donate every month, the people who donate quarterly.
We're not here without you.
We're going up against multi-billion dollar entities.
I mean, we have been denounced by everybody from judges to Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump's campaign and the Southern Baptist Convention and every hate group like the AD on the SPLC.
And I mean, we need our friends to match that vigor.
And we need it now.
And we need it throughout this month.
So if you can go tonight, maybe you could do that right now.
I love waiting to the last minute.
That's the way I do things.
So I'm not shaming those of you who wait and keep us on pins and needles until the last day of a quarterly fundraising drive to send in your support.
I'm with you.
I do that in my life.
But, you know, if you can tonight wouldn't be a bad idea either.
And get us off to a good start.
It's really a struggle to make up the difference when you start off poorly in these fundraising drives.
You've got a lot of ground to catch up in just a few weeks.
And anyway, we're sending out all of these letters to our established donors on Monday.
So you'll get those in the mailbox.
Check your mailbox Wednesday, Thursday.
They should be there, and you'll know what your prize is, your incentive offer, if you contribute.
But it all helps.
We have people who donate $3, you know, $5, $10.
It all adds up, and it all makes a difference in whether or not the most tenured pro-white broadcast in the world continues.
And that's what we are.
And we've done a lot, and we want to continue to do more.
And I love the stories, and I love the history, and I love everything we've done.
But I think our greatest work is still ahead of us.
But it all depends on you.
And that's all it is.
I mean, Keith and I still have the zeal.
And, you know, Sam and the rest of the team here, the people that we regularly feature, I mean, we want to keep on going.
We've got the fight in us, but we can't do it without you.
It's a team, it's a symbiotic relationship.
And I'm excited about the future.
In spite of the last hour and a half, we've been talking about the coronavirus.
I'm excited, but we need your support.
Support us tonight.
Support us during this commercial break.
You can do it.
And we'll be back on a much more solemn and important note.
We'll be back to remember the life of Bill Rowland, our longtime co-host.
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Well, I'm glad we got through that fundraising segment.
Boy, I hate to do it.
But we don't survive without it.
So I want to keep on going, and I hope a lot of you want us to keep going.
And I want to thank Ken up in New York, who made a contribution in the commercial break, and all the way up in New York.
We've got support all over the world, but we need it to be shown.
And we're going to continue to show you support by doing our best to educate and inform and enlighten and to the best of our ability, entertain you.
I mean, you don't always have to serve medicine bitter.
I mean, we'll give you the truth and we'll try to put it in an attractive package as well.
But the most important thing I think we're going to cover tonight is remembering one of our heroes and one of my mentors, and that was TPC co-host Bill Rowland.
And Bill Rowland, you know, when I started this show in 2004, Bill was one of the first I brought on as a regular contributor and co-host.
And he was with me through all of those formative years.
And this is what I wrote on February 25th, 2013.
I'd like to read it to you again.
If we don't remember our brothers, who are we?
This is what I wrote on the morning that Bill Rowland passed away.
It was seven years ago this week.
As many of our listeners know, political accessible co-host Bill Rowland had been valiantly battling cancer for over two years, and that fight came to an end this morning.
Bill is now in heaven.
This was on February 25th, 2013.
The loss is devastating to me.
In addition to being one of my very best friends in life, Bill was largely responsible, and he was, folks, more than you know, for the development and cultivation of TPC from its inception.
I mean, he gave me so much business.
I mean, how much can a 24-year-old know, and how much experience can he have?
Bill was an incredible mentor.
Everyone who follows the show knows that Bill co-hosted with me, going back to that message I posted on February 25th, 2013.
On a regular basis, he was always my right hand behind the scenes.
I talk to him at length every week for nearly 10 years.
I never made a decision without his counsel.
What value I may have as a leader is due in large part to Bill's Sage Counsel.
His impact on me personally and the radio program, specifically over the course of the past decade, cannot be overstated.
In addition to his value as a compatriot and a mentor, he was an incredible role model.
Those of you who did not know him as well as I did were robbed of a tremendous blessing.
And those of you who did know him well can understand what I'm saying barely scratches the surface of his true value as a man.
He represented the very best of what anyone can aspire to be.
He cannot be replaced as a leader or as a husband or as a father.
And the fact that he was taken from us at 54 years of age is a loss from which we cannot recover.
But I must thank God for the time that he allowed Bill Rowland to be a part of my life.
I miss my friend.
I still miss my friend.
Bill and I shared many mutual friendships, one of which was that of Sam Dixon, who had this to share.
This is what Sam Dixon wrote about Bill Rowland.
Bill was one of the finest men I've ever known.
Truly noble, sound, intelligent, tactful, polite, and brave.
He is one of the rare few who had something to lose, but were still willing to step up to the plate for our people.
As well as one of the even rarer and fewer who have done so while being an all-American family man with a lovely wife and two wonderful children.
Bill soldiered on despite cancer working both at his job and on the radio with James Edwards.
All of you might consider sending his note, sending his family a note recognizing his brave devotion, shown through decades of hard, dull, day-in, day-out work for the resurrection of our triumphing kin.
And another mutual friend wrote this, Bill was as a courageous a man as I've ever met.
I never saw fear in his eyes.
He was truly worthy of his southern patrimony, which he never failed to acknowledge and honor.
We all miss him greatly.
Ladies and gentlemen, I stand here in this last segment on tonight's program to remember my friend Bill Rowland.
I am still in his debt for the incredible impact he made on my life and my activism.
He left a lasting legacy.
I'll never forget him.
Things will never be as good without him here.
But I do look forward to one day hugging my friend as we do here in the South in the kingdom of heaven.
The loss of Bill still hurts us deeply.
As much as the show has accomplished since his passing, I wonder what more we could have accomplished had he been here to help guide us.
But he would have savored every second of our 15th anniversary celebration last October.
He would have considered the day we were denounced by Congress to be our most significant triumph.
He would have beamed with pride at those 500 people that gathered with us at Nathan Bedford Forrest's grave a few years ago.
We helped organize that.
But nothing would have pleased him more than the unprecedented list of accomplishments we have made over the course of the past few years.
And without question, Bill would have been so proud of all this show has accomplished in his absence.
But from beyond this earthly realm, Bill is still part of our fabric and he shares in all that we do.
His lasting impact on this radio show will continue to be felt until we turn the lights off in this studio for the last time.
I'm looking at a video on YouTube of me and Bill in the radio studio back in 2010.
My God, time does go by.
Thank you, Bill.
I've told the story before.
My first, I'll tell you the truth.
I only tell you the truth.
You know that, folks.
I only tell you the truth on this show, no matter what.
And I remember the first time ABC, NBC, CBS was calling me, emailing me, trying to find me to put me in front of a camera.
The SPLC had added us to the hate watch list.
This was just a year into our run.
Now I'm still green, and I'm not nearly as seasoned as I am now.
And my first reaction is to just, you know, try to disavow, apologize, do anything to make them go away.
And so that's why I can not relate or understand, but I can see it from the other side.
I mean, that was my initial reaction.
I tell you that.
I tell you that.
As a 24-year-old young man, I thought that was the way to just end it quickly, just make him go away.
And I told Bill, you know, he said, you got all these people calling you.
What are you going to say?
Well, I'm just going to say, you know, you got it wrong.
We're not this.
We're not that.
And he said, James, I love you and I respect you.
And I'm with you.
But if you do that, that's going to be the end of this show.
Nobody will want to support anybody that does that.
That's not, we're better than that.
And I talked to him and I listened to him and I considered what he had to say.
And then I went on for the first time in my career.
I went on in front of the national media and they asked me, what's your reaction to being called a racist and all of this and being put on the SBLC's hate watch list?
And what's your reaction?
You know what?
99% of the white men out there do.
Well, I'm sorry.
I apologize.
It's a misunderstanding.
You know what I said?
And I'll never forget what I said.
I said, I'm ecstatic to be on that list.
I'm ecstatic to be on that list.
You have not arrived as a leader until you have enemies.
And I'll never betray my people.
And I don't know if I would have said that without Bill Rowland.
But I did say it.
And that's what I meant.
And that was what was always in my heart.
That was what was always in my heart.
But I was taught right.
And none of us are who we are without our mentors and without our betors.
And so that was Bill Rowland.
And that was just one of many things that he did to make me a better and more effective leader.
And that was the thing I wanted to say.
But, you know, you let the fear creep in, you know, especially the first time.
Well, that's the, we cast the die that day, and we've never looked back.
And of course, that's what I meant.
And that's what was in my heart.
That was what was in the mirror of my bone from the very beginning.
And I wanted to push back.
But he gave me the support to do it.
And I stood by myself that day.
And I did it.
And I've never looked back.
And from then, that's been the motto of our show.
No retreat, no surrender, no apologies.
Bill wrote that motto.
Well, anyway, I look forward to seeing him again in heaven one day where there's a lot of work left to be done between now and then.
And I want to continue to do it to the best of my ability here on this radio program.
This is the outlet and the voice that God has given us.
And folks, we don't exist.
We don't continue.
It doesn't happen without you.
For 16 years, we have stood stronger than most.
I think we do it better than most.
I can't lie to you.
It's not easy to do.
You know, my wife is expecting our third child.
And I'm not going to pretend that it's easy to be the leader of a growing family while also juggling my duties here at TPC.
So I ask you for your help on the latter.
Okay.
The success of these quarterly fundraising appeals makes the difference in whether our work on the radio can carry on.
So help us.
And we will continue to serve.
And we will do it without retreat, surrender, or apology.
I am so glad.
You know, a lot of people never know the behind-the-scenes stories.
And it's not the behind-the-scenes stories that matter.
I could have said, well, I was really brave with Bill behind the scenes, but by God, when the camera lights went on, I cucked.
No, I didn't.
I didn't do that.
And I never will do that.
And I never have done that.
I was just honest enough to tell you that when I was a kid, you think that that's the easiest way to make it all go away.
Well, we know better.
And it's because we know better and because we were in that position and we chose the path that's taken and we chose the path that others need to choose that we can pass judgment on the people out there that are betraying our people and betraying their principles and their beliefs.
I have never done that and I never will do that.
And I'm proud of the man that I am today.
And I'm proud of the men in my life who have made me that way.
My father, people like Bill Rowland, people like Keith Alexander, Sam Bushman, and all the rest, all the people we have on this show.
We love you folks.
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