Jan. 4, 2020 - The Political Cesspool - James Edwards
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You're listening to the Liberty News Radio Network, and this is the Political Cesspool.
The Political Cesspool, known across the South and worldwide as the South's foremost populist conservative radio program.
And here to guide you through the murky waters of the Political Cesspool is your host, James Edwards.
What a fun show tonight, folks, and what a big way to kick off 2020, the year, the decade in our broadcasting calendar here at TPC.
I'm your host, James Edwards, Keith Alexander.
It is the first show of the new year and the new decade, January 4th, 2020.
Another decade.
Here we go, and you have heard from a wonderful cross-section of mainstay guests, Jared Taylor, Paul Ramsey, Jason Kuna, Tom Kaczynski, still to come tonight, Brad Griffin, Brett McAtee, Paul Fromm, and one of our very favorites, Dr. Michael Hill, the president of the League of the South.
Let's not forget that first hour, too, though.
I don't consider him a guest, certainly part of the inner core and team here at TPC.
Sam Bushman, our network owner here of Liberty News Radio, he was on as well to kick this whole thing off.
So it's been a big show tonight with a lot of big personalities, perhaps none bigger than the Viking king himself, Michael Hill, the Scottish warlord.
Let's get it straight.
Michael, how are you?
I'm fine, James.
Happy New Year to you and your family.
Well, Michael, this is Keith Alexander, and I have one question for you.
Is this decade going to be the decade when secession becomes a reality?
Well, that is actually the question is the question is, you know, we're talking about the 2020s, but we want to talk specifically with you and exclusively with you, Michael, about a subsect of that.
What is the future of the South over the course of the next 10 years?
I think the future of the South over the next 10 years will be determined by the decisions that the Southern states make once the Democrats take power again, whether or not they're going to put up with everything that the Democrats will want to shove down their throats, and certainly the GOP won't keep them from doing it.
So the Southern states are going to have to make a decision.
Are they going to live in a godless multicultural empire or will they leave it and form their own political entity in order to live by God's law, which the Southern states have done since the beginning for the most part.
So I think 2020 is going to have a lot to say about that.
Obviously, if the Democrats come back into power this year with the elections, this process will be speeded up.
If Trump wins again, who knows?
But I'm seeing this decade as being a crucial decade for the South, and we'll have some major decisions to make as individual sovereign states.
What about secession now, Michael?
Are you buying or selling?
No, I'm buying.
I'm buying.
I don't think the Southern states will have any alternative, Keith, but to secede from this godless multicultural empire if they're going to save anything resembling what we've known for most of our lives.
Chief, you bring up a good point here that I hadn't exactly considered in the way you just put it, because we know that Trump, you know, he's three years in, going into his fourth year, which we spent entirely on reelection.
And, you know, a lot of the promise that he had in 2015 and 16 has just not been realized.
And that's just putting it politely.
So if trends persist and whether he's re-elected and it's extended another few years or if he is defeated Later this year, the Democrats gain control.
The Republican Party will very soon, if demographic trends persist, they will become a regional party.
And they'll never again compete on a national level for the White House.
Now, that can happen as early as this November, perhaps as late if he does nothing as 2024.
But that is on schedule to take place.
But the South will remain mostly solidly red, at least for a while longer.
And coming to the reality that you just mentioned of it being a one-party country, the South will have decisions to make.
Yes, it will.
And as Keith, I already chimed in there, and the South will remain predominantly white.
I think that will be true if immigration can be dealt with very quickly.
If immigration trends continue, there might be certain southern states like Alabama, maybe Tennessee, Kentucky, that will remain majority white, but a lot of them are going to be majority non-white if this trend keeps up.
And then we have a disaster on our hands politically and socially and culturally.
So we have got to do something within the next couple of years to get the immigration thing under control.
I don't know what it is other than make Trump fulfill his promises, and I really don't know how you do that.
Or the state simply say we're going to devise our own immigration policy, and it's going to be to basically keep anybody out that we think will fit in with our demographics.
Here's the thing, and it's perhaps the same.
I mean, Kay Ivey might be a little better than what Bill Lee has turned out to be down there in Alabama.
We're talking about the governors of Alabama and Tennessee, respectively.
But Tennessee has a pretty decent state legislature as far as Republican-dominated state legislatures go.
I mean, it's weak T compared to League of the South material, but it's okay.
I mean, they took some issue against the city of Memphis, you know, with regard to the Nathan Bedford Forest Monument.
It's all right.
Okay, it's a pretty solid state legislature.
But, you know, here we have this cucked-out governor of Tennessee, Bill Lee, who we just mentioned in the previous segment.
He positions himself as this rural Tennessean.
He got pictured in college wearing Confederate uniforms and all of this stuff.
But by all accounts, you would think that this would be a guy that would hold the line.
And then, lo and behold, he gets elected in the most recent cycle, and he's bringing in more refugees.
He's virtue signaling against Forrest now.
He was given the opportunity by the Trump administration to deny any additional influx of refugees, and he turned it down.
Listen, this is the thing.
So, even in the white red states like Tennessee and Alabama that have good state legislatures, you still got a governor at the top that's going to screw everything up.
Sure, that's exactly right.
And that has to be taken care of.
You know, somebody's going to have to step up who goes to the people of the state and say, look, I'm operating in your interest.
And I think if somebody does that, I think they'll have a decent chance of unseating people.
That's the campaign he ran, and that's why he won.
And then he gets in there and he's, you know, legislating.
That's why we need Michael Dukakis.
That's why we need identity politics for white people down here.
These people like Bill Lee, unlike black politicians, they know that turning on their base will bring forth no negative consequences for them politically.
Where a black politician, for example, if he turned on his base, he knows he'd be toast in the next election.
Michael, final word to you and be sure to give out the contact information for how people can join the League of the South and please do so with our most heartiest endorsement.
I certainly will.
It's www.leagueofthesouth.com.com.
And you can find all the other contact information, mailing address, phone number, et cetera, on there.
And we'll be glad to send you out a free issue of the free magnolia or a full membership packet if you like.
All right.
Well, we will certainly encourage people to do that, and I am doing so in, in fact, right now.
Let me tell you, the League of the South is a group that will do the work that the Son of the Confederate veterans won't do.
Okay.
Well, we will get their hands dirty.
And so we were talking about the fact that in Tennessee and Alabama, you have a handful of members of the state house that are probably good, solid people, but you've got a governor at the top, even if he campaigns on our issues that once elected doesn't go that way.
Well, the South will have a decision to make once it becomes a one-party country, and we'll look to people like Chief Michael Hill to help us guide in that uncertain future.
It'll be an interesting decade.
We're lucky to have people like him out there on the front lines.
Michael, thank you so much.
Happy New Year.
We'll be talking with you a lot more as this calendar continues to turn.
God bless you.
It's a good easier.
God bless.
All from us.
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What a great lineup, folks.
It continues right now with Paul Fromm, the director of the Association for Free Expression and the Canada First Immigration Reform Committee.
Paul, longtime friend, one of the best.
And it's always fun to have him on.
It's just a party every time.
Paul, how are you?
I'm very well, James.
And Happy New Year to all your listeners and your great crew.
You've done a fantastic job in the 15 years now you've been broadcasting.
15 solid going into 16.
So long ago that we remember when you were with us at Shoni's in Bartlett, Tennessee.
I remember.
Paul used to control.
Hey, but Paul, we've been on the air so long.
We remember when you actually could leave Canada.
They didn't have a hate speech law in Canada.
Put it a little differently.
You remember when I could actually get into the United States?
That's right.
Yeah, I guess I was talking, you know, my wife loves you.
And I was talking to my wife last night and she was asking who I was going to be on the show because she knew we were going to have a big show.
And I was talking to her about you not being able.
She says, yeah, I hadn't seen Paul in a while.
I was like, well, yeah, remember, he can't come to the United States anymore.
And I had to tell her the whole story again, but I said, don't worry about it.
They still let him fly back and forth in Canada.
And you're actually over on the left coast of Canada tonight.
So out from your normal stomping ground.
We need to get El Chapo's tunnel builders to help you out.
You're in the mountains of British Columbia tonight.
Well, and I'm sure doing good work over there as you do across that continent.
You do still, you are still able to go into certain countries of Europe, and we're thankful for that.
But anyway, we've got to get you back down here, man.
We miss you.
But until then, let's talk with a little bit broader scope.
So we've been talking with everyone tonight about their predictions for the coming year in the coming decade, new year, new decade, 2020s.
If we've talked about any country in particular, it's been, of course, the United States.
But let's look at it more broadly across Western civilization.
What do you see?
The Anglosphere.
Hey, there you go, Keith.
What do you see over the course of the next decade playing out in Canada, in Western Europe, and in Eastern Europe?
In Australia, too.
The Anglosphere.
There you go.
Okay.
Well, I'm always reluctant to say, you know, the end is nigh or, you know, the apocalypse is around the corner.
But with a great deal of thought, I'm going to say the next decade is going to be make it, is going to make or break.
Are we going to remain the majority, the European founding settler people of Canada, the United States, particularly?
With the massive third world invasion that started off with the Immigration Act of 1965, America's gone from 90% European or white in 1961 when JFK was elected, or was inaugurated, to about 61% now.
Every demographic projection says that if you keep up the present immigration rate levels, 85% each year from the third world, whites will be a minority by 2041.
We've got 21 years to turn it around.
But that's we can't keep kicking the foot of the ball down the field.
Kick your can down the road.
No, we can't do it.
Same in Canada.
Although we were like 98.5% white in 1960, we're down to 78%, which sounds pretty comfortable.
It's not.
We are being invaded.
Our two major biggest cities in English Canada, Toronto and Vancouver, became majority non-white a couple of years ago.
The projections are that before 2050, maybe 2048 or so, we'll become majority non-white.
So we've got very, very little time to turn it around.
So what happens in the next decade, I think, is going to make it or break it.
Either we're going to basically allow ourselves to slip into minority status with stronger and stronger white-hating minorities or they will become a new majority ranged against us.
They've been hopped up on a white-hating ideology by our wretched mainstream media and most academia and even some religious institutions.
They believe that they are the longtime victims of racism and we have white privilege.
And once they have a majority, they will take it away from us.
We're the only race altruistic enough or stupid enough, whichever term you prefer, to actually devote ourselves to the betterment of other people.
Everybody else only works for themselves.
We play by the rules, in other words, and the others don't.
Well, here's the thing, Paul, about it.
You touched on it, the demographic displacement.
I mean, it's a common theme on this show, of course.
Low birth rates.
They're hitting us on two different ways.
Low birth rates of whites and immigration from non-white nations.
So you're getting pounded on both fronts.
But I have to think that a people as wonderful and as brilliant and as strong and as intelligent and as good as ours will not exit the stage of history because we are too comfortable and too afraid of being called the R-word.
I mean, do you see a future where white people just completely commit Harry Kerry because they're too scared?
They're too scared to be called a racist by somebody on TV.
And maybe we need to be less comfortable.
We are more comfortable.
But no, no, I mean, Paul, I mean, with only a minute or two remaining, we're not going to go out that way, are we?
Surely.
No, I don't think so.
And I take a lot of encouragement from the fact that America elected a wildcard like Donald Trump, and I think we'll re-elect him this November.
He's not everything we want, but he did challenge some of the sacred cows on immigration.
First of all, he challenged the makeup of immigration.
A lot of the people you're getting are criminal trash.
Secondly, he also is beginning to challenge the numbers.
And to get immigration under control, basically, we need essentially a moratorium.
But if we can't achieve that, then a massive reduction in numbers and allowing people, as the 1924 Act did, that will not upset the ethnic balance.
And right now, immigration is basically population replacement of white people.
So I see that the next decade has been a crucial battle on that front.
Doing nothing is not an option, basically.
We don't want to be proved T.S. Eliot to be prophetic in his poem, The Hollow Man, where he said, this is the way the world will end, not with a bang, but a whimper.
Well, hey, it's like our friend Rich in Nashville is saying tonight, fight, fly, or die.
What are our people going to do?
Fight, fly, or die.
Well, that's, and, you know, leaving the country is not an option.
I mean, people have said to me, well, why don't you leave country Canada?
I said, it's my home.
Where would I go?
You know, well, you have an easy life in Costa Rica.
Yeah, maybe so, but it's not my home.
My home is Canada, and as America is yours.
And I'm sympathetic to the idea of the ethnostate.
I'm on a weekly show called the Ethnostate.
But there's a part of me that says, hell no, this land is my land from the Vancouver Island to Newfoundland.
And America is your land from the Pacific.
And you talk about jumping from the frying pan into the fire, leaving Canada for Costa Rica.
That has to be the stupidest idea ever.
Well, yeah, no, believe me, that was not my idea.
But people, basically, I want to reclaim the whole of North America for the European folks who built it.
We built it.
We built this continent from a wilderness.
We've made it one of the most blessed places that has ever existed.
Why should we give any of it up?
Now, we may strategically have to give up portions of real estate to creating an ethno state.
I don't know, but ideally, let's save the whole of it.
Hey, whatever happens, Paul, we're going to find out together.
So proud to have you as a brother and as a friend.
And I wish we had an hour with you.
And we're looking forward to seeing you back here in the good old US of A shortly.
That's right.
God willing.
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Well, when you have all these fantastic guests on, it sure makes a show go by quickly.
How are we going to keep up this pace the rest of the year, Keith?
We've really set a standard tonight.
Well, they keep getting better and better.
And following that rubric, here's Brad Griffin, the founder and editor-in-chief of Occidental Descent.
He actually wrote a full-length featured piece in advance predicting the 2020s, and we're going to have him break it down right now.
Brad, what are your predictions for the coming decade?
Hey, James.
Hey, Keith.
Thanks for having me.
A little sick.
I've got a cold starting 2020.
So bear with me on that.
Yeah, I wrote a piece about an article looking ahead to the 2020s.
I think I wrote it in November, getting a little ahead of the curve there.
I predicted, number one, that Trump would lose the 2020 election, even though it seemed at the time that he had the, it seemed like at the time he had the momentum.
And the Democrats were kind of in disarray and he had the upper hand.
But I figured something would come along.
Something would come along.
And just in terms of the, you know, the sheer number of, you know, it's a different equation.
You had like a lot of black voters fat out the last 2016 election.
The left was kind of cocky, you know, had the guard down and didn't want to vote for Hillary.
So I expect just looking at the numbers, I expect that Trump will lose in November.
Hey, Brad, Brad, I want to, but before you go on, and I know we only have you for one segment, which is only 10 minutes, and you got these 10 points, and I know we got to move quickly, but I want to share with you a little Twitter poll we ran.
I shared it with Tom Kaczynski in the last hour.
You'll find this interesting.
Of the people who follow my Twitter, which is, I guess, an extension of the listenership of this show, we ran a poll.
If the election was held today, would you vote for Trump, someone else of the field, or would you set it out?
Trump got 56% of the vote.
The field got 10%.
Setting it out got 33%.
Does that surprise you?
No, no, no, it doesn't.
This election has a totally different feel than the 2016 election.
And of course, now that we've stumbled into this crisis with Iran, which I wasn't expecting, I wasn't expecting this to come to a head until after the 2020 election.
I figured he would keep a low profile in Iran, that he would, you know, run on having pulled troops out of Afghanistan and Syria.
And then after winning the election, we'd go to war with Iran.
But it looks like it looks like now, you know, he might start to start it off all early.
That really changes everything.
And if we end up going to war with Iran now as opposed to after the election, then the rest of the year is going to be about, it's going to consume everything.
You know, Brad, this is Keith.
I think it was Mark Levin who said that Trump is our first Jewish president, and this really is a manifestation of that.
Yeah, look at Brad's banner over there at OD.
Yeah, I've been documenting him going to all these fundraisers lately, raising, you know, millions and millions of dollars from hardcore, extreme Orthodox Jewish donors in New York City.
And he went down to Shuttle Allison's thing in, I think, Florida last month and held a big fundraiser down there.
And so, yeah, so I think, you know, I think if Donald Trump stays president, whether it happens now or a year from now, we're going to end up in a war with Iran.
I'm pretty sure of that.
And, you know, we've been beating up these third-rate countries with our military when we wanted to, but now we're getting a second-rate country that is backed by two first-rate countries, Russia and China.
So this could be very interesting.
What's the old Chinese curse made you live in interesting times?
I have the feeling we're going to find out about that.
Well, Brad, like I said, you had a series of 10 predictions for this decade.
We only have about five minutes remaining.
You talked about the election, which is huge.
Let me run through those.
Okay.
Okay.
Number two, the biggest thing is going to be China is going to have like a huge decade.
And if you can look at the post-war era, you can see that we've kind of gone from, you know, defeating the Soviet Union, a period of hubris that ends in the Iraq war that brings on nemesis.
This being this war with Iran will be the thing that brings down the American empire.
We're headed into a world that has, you know, more, unlike the Cold War where there's two superpowers, it'll be a more multipolar world.
China will lead the new, China will take over America's place in the world order in the next decade.
You're going to have, of course, the biggest thing of all being the disruption caused by automation in terms of jobs, robots, and automation, and how that's going to drive millions of people into unemployment.
And we have absolutely no idea what we're going to do about that.
That's another thing.
You'll have advances in genetics, which will pale in comparison to anything that's happened in the last 20 years because you'll have AI.
AI will be doing that, and we'll find all kinds of patterns we've never even seen before.
So the genetics of intelligence, 10 years from now, the genetics of intelligence, all kinds of things we don't know about the human past will be figured out.
And it'll just, you know, be completely unable to deny that, you know, that there's a genetic basis of intelligence.
And all that stuff is coming.
We're just going with this.
I had some other things I'd written down.
Oh, yeah.
A culture, our culture, yeah, oh, yeah, conservatism ink won't exist ten years from now because the demographics will tip tip and they'll end up losing a few states, whether it's Arizona, Georgia, it could be Texas.
This, you know, that that House of Cards is going to come crashing down.
I think in Europe, nationalism and populism is on the poise, on the press precipice of a huge breakthrough.
I think the national front, whatever it's calling itself now, will come to power in France.
You'll see populist governments take power in Sweden.
You'll see Salvini come back to power in Italy, I think.
So there'll be a huge breakthrough.
The next step, this decade, this is going to be a lot more fast-paced than the previous two.
I'll put it that way.
A lot more disruptive.
With China taking over in the world, automation going on, you'll see huge, the boomers in the United States will lose their grip as they start retiring en masse and starting to die off.
The grip of the culture will go away.
You'll see a huge demographic shift over the next.
Well, who's going to take over that grip?
Is it going to be the millennials, even ever more liberal millennials?
Or what's going to happen?
Unfortunately, we're heading into like a no, that's another thing.
Yeah.
So, yeah, there'll be the millennials, and you'll have a huge divide between the woke millennials and everyone having a huge backlash against that.
I predicted, I called it the woke lash.
It's our politics will, you know, quickly become divided over that after I think Conservatism Inc., I think it's like in its absolute twilight.
I don't expect it to last.
Death throws death throats, yeah.
It's on borrowed time, I'll put it that way.
And something like a war with Iran is exactly the sort of thing that will finish it off for good, I think.
So, well, is America going to, you know, is it going to be like T.S. Eliot said in his poem, The Hollow Men, this is the way the world will end, not with a bang, but a whimper?
Or is there hope for the founding stock of America that you see materializing over this next decade?
Oh, it's going to, it's going to be quite a shock when all these people who are supporting Trump and think they're making America great again.
When he loses, first of all, he loses, and you've got a radical Democrat, whether it's Sanders or Warren or whoever else takes power and they have all this woke stuff.
And that's, you know, there's going to be a period of hell with that.
I think Ramsey Paul also talks about that.
What about sanctuary counties?
You know, what they're doing in the counterattack would be to use the theories of the left.
They have sanctuary cities where they don't enforce federal laws they don't like.
And we're having sanctuary counties developing in Virginia because maybe, possibly.
What do you think about that?
Yeah, I mean, I mean, kind of, you know, I would say kind of what's, you know, holding us, this House of Cars together is, you know, the perception that America is still a great country and that it's on top.
But a decade from now, that's not going to longer being the case.
China will be the leading world power.
America's grip on its empire abroad and the whole order, liberal order it's built up since World War II, that will be a thing of the past as well.
And the country will be well on its way to, like I said, like with the sanctuary.
Well, one thing, let me say this.
I saw a very interesting map.
90% of the North American landmass or the United States landmass is red.
Only 10% blue.
Now, that's something.
What are the consequences?
Well, I'll tell you, we'll be able to follow it.
Brad is one of our most incredible scribes, and you can follow his thinking and thoughts and writings at OccidentalDescent.com.
And Brad, we'll talk to you again soon, brother.
Thank you.
All right.
Talk to you later.
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I'd advise Mr. Trump to stop whining and go try to make his case to get votes.
The press has created a rigged system.
They even want to try and rig the election.
Well, I tell you what, it helps in Ohio that we got Democrats in charge of the machines.
And poisoned the mind of so many of our voters.
At the polling booth, where so many cities are corrupt and voter fraud is all too common.
And then they say, oh, there's no voter fraud in our country.
I come from Chicago.
So I want to be honest.
It's not as if it's just Republicans who have monkeyed around with elections in the past.
Sometimes Democrats have to.
You know, whenever people are in power, they have this tendency to try to tilt things in their direction.
There's no voter fraud.
You start whining before the game's even over.
Whenever things are going badly for you and you lose, you start blaming somebody else, then you don't have what it takes to be in this job.
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Well, folks, I hope you've enjoyed tonight's show.
It's been a real pleasure to present, to be able to work with so many fine men.
I've got another three hours in me tonight, Keith.
I tell you what, if we can keep it going like this, we may just stay here all night long.
It is like a roller coaster ride.
You know, you're not going anywhere.
You know it's not doing you any good, but when it's all over, you know you've been on a ride, right?
Well, that's for sure.
Well, I think we are doing some good.
Yeah, that's what I was going to say, too.
Yeah, right.
That analogy breaks down because we've gotten some really good insights from some really smart people.
Well, I guess to hold tight with the roller coaster analogy, you're going to get on the train at the beginning of the show.
You're never going to let you off at the end of three hours.
But the longer it is, the better it gets.
That's for sure.
Just bring a barf bag with you.
Well, not with the guests we've had on the night, that's for sure.
And we've saved, if you can believe it, folks, perhaps the most important question for last.
And to cap off tonight's show, and our parade of guest is Pastor Brett McAtee.
And we're talking about the 2020s.
We're talking about this year, the new year, the new decade.
And the question needs to be asked.
We asked Michael Hill, what is the future of the South over the course of the next 10 years?
We asked Pastor McAtee, what is the future for our faith, for the church, for the Christian faith, over the course of the next 10 years?
Pastor?
Thanks for the opportunity, chaps.
I can only answer this question based on the current trajectory.
And I have a lot of information, so let's see where we go.
What I'm talking about here when I talk about denominations is I'm talking about denominations that were heretofore considered conservatives.
So what I see for the 2020 is in the denominations that are embracing critical race theory and intersectionality as cultural Marxist tool by which the broader culture can be understood.
I see that as a trajectory that ends in disaster.
What I see are denominations that can't find the will to discipline those who want to continue to embrace their queer identity.
In other words, you have denominations with pastors who are saying, I have this queer identity and I'm not practicing it, but I still have it and the church can't find the will to discipline that.
What I see are denominations can't find the will to discipline those who have social justice warrior pastors sprinkled throughout their mist.
I see theology and denominations that refuse to deal with theologies which are pagan, works-oriented, and are cultural Marxist that is liberation theology.
And as I see these patterns and trajectories, I can't help but see that for the 2020, unless God rends the skies, so to speak, I see these things continuing to happen as God's discipline upon us, his justice discipline upon us.
Secondly, the demographic change in the country is affecting the church as well.
And of course, all this is being aided by the church through the voluntary agencies of the church that relocate and make money.
Catholic charities.
Right.
Not just Catholic, but Lutherans, and they're all kinds of them.
The effect of this demographic change has translated both in the church and the broader culture as a continued lurch to the left.
This means the church will continue to lurch to the left, and this will manifest itself most clearly in the continued pursuit of demonizing the heirs of Europe, the original stock.
The historic Americans will continue to be told to repent for all their alleged sins of their forebears, and that immigration demographic will push left, that it will push left, is proven by the voting pattern of immigrants when they come here.
All of this means that just as the broader culture of the old Americans is being squeezed out of leadership, so it will be in the church.
Increasingly, white Christians will either conform to the New World Order Christianity or they can worship in their living rooms alone.
And those who stay with the church during this transformation can expect Christianity, according to Czechist or NKVD principles, be the grip that comes from the pulpit.
Thirdly.
Well, as Pat Buchanan said, Pastor McAtee, it may be to the catacombs.
Well, and there's nothing wrong with home churches.
That's how the church began.
But, Pastor, I would ask you this, and please continue on with your thoughts.
I know it's a brief segment and just a single segment at that, but we've talked about this in your previous appearances over the course of the last year, and that is we do need a great revival in our church for our faith so that the church can once again be something that ministers to our mind and body as well as our spirit, whether it takes place over the course of the next year or 10 years.
As you said, trends don't suggest that it will, but one day, well, we've seen it in Eastern Europe already, that certainly can happen.
What could be a catalyst that would lead to a great revival of authentic Christianity in the West?
Well, you know, I was going to say this for later, but I'll interject this now.
If you had asked me in the year 1510 to broadcast what the 1510s look like, I never would have been able to guess or forecast a Martin Luther.
All right?
So, amen.
Good point.
1510, I could never have seen 1517.
What could be a catalyst today?
Well, the catalyst, to be honest, is probably not going to be, it could not be well received, but it could be persecution.
Persecution tends to purify the church.
The persecution may be primarily economic as Christians find it harder and harder to work in the marketplace as the draconian cultural Marxism continues to wax and wax.
So that could foster Reformation.
And I do think it'll come from the catacombs.
I don't think that the denominations, they're old wineskins at this point.
You don't pour new wine into old wineskins.
So I don't look for Reformation revival in the institutional denominations.
I think they're already over the fall.
Well, you know, back in the...
That's a great comment.
Yeah, back in the 80s, I really thought fundamentalists were going to be the faithful remnant.
But now, fundamentalist groups, and particularly the Southern Baptists who cast a long shadow down in our neck of the woods, you know, they've not only embraced the social gospel with a zeal equal to or greater than that of mainline Protestants, they've also embraced a heresy that they don't even know in mainstream Protestantism, which is Jewish dispensationalism.
And it seems like everything is happening.
What is happening, you know, the Jews can do no wrong.
He who blesses Israel is blessed.
He who curses Israel is cursed and all of that.
I had a guy today tell me, you know, that's where is that in the Bible?
I said, he was quoting it to me.
I said, where is that in the Bible exactly?
And I did quote to him, you know, the blood libel in the Gospel of Mark, which he was surprised to hear about.
But, you know, we hear now that Christianity is shrinking.
And I say, that's great.
That shows that the denominations are driving people out, but that doesn't mean they're giving up Christianity.
We've got to have a way to foster the growth of individual churches that do hold to the true faith.
Well, this leads me to my final question for Pastor McAtee, and then we'll let him have the final word in whichever way he'd like to take it.
We've talked a lot about predictions, you know, things that could maybe happen over the course of the next 10 years.
But what should our people be doing over the course of the next 10 years?
For the practicing Christians of our audience, what advice would you give them going forward?
I think I've said this before, but I think the most important thing is we have to keep our children.
We have to have children and lots of children.
So those that are young should plan on having large families.
And they have to keep their children, which means they have to engage both in catechism training and in worldview training.
And so we're not going to win the broader culture unless we can keep our children.
Now that may become an issue also for the church in the 2020s, a return to trying to clamp down the homeschooling.
But if we're going to triumph and have reformation, we have to keep our children.
And they have to keep their children.
That's the way that reformation happens.
And we haven't done a very good job of that in the last 50 to 70 years.
I would add one more thing to that, Pastor McAtee.
Older men need to consider having second families because, and that is if they're widowed or something like that, because, you know, menopause is a misnomer.
It ought to be called womenopause.
Men don't suffer it.
And we need to have all of the children we can.
And I think from every source that we can have, you know, to build white families.
Yeah, yeah, I wouldn't disagree with that in the least.
Let me round off with one.
I had a list of six.
I knew I wouldn't get to all of them.
But I think that we have to realize also that parachurch organizations, or they might be called parachurch organizations, who are usually considered in the circles that we run in, are considered our friends, in the end, will be of no help to Christianity and the church.
And in point of fact, I don't think they even care about that.
These organizations are too often led by men who have a Darwinian worldview, and they have speakers and writers who are more concerned with sociobiological evolution as a tool of analysis than they are concerned with the word of God.
Further, many of them boldly admit that they're not interested in positing the future vision of America on biblical Christianity and the kingship of Jesus Christ, but rather are trying to rally a broad tent approach that allows leadership to any pagan white man, so long as they prioritize the white man, quite apart from a Christian confession.
So what I'm saying here is that whiteness alone, apart from a biblical confession, cannot rescue us and will only contribute to our destruction.
And I think that there are a lot in our circles that need to realize this, that we have to look to the word of God for our analysis, not sociobiological.
Well, I think we need to remember this too, Pastor McAtee.
The alternative name for Europe during most of the two millennia since the death of Christ is Christendom, and Christianity is seen as a white man's religion, and that's why it's being demonized by our enemies.
And to the pastor's point, there's no shortage of white men who are out there working against us, and that's for sure.
Pastor Brett McAtee, thank you so much for rounding out our lineup tonight.