Nov. 30, 2019 - The Political Cesspool - James Edwards
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You're listening to the Liberty News Radio Network, and this is the Political Cesspool.
The Political Cesspool, going across the South and worldwide, as the South's foremost populist conservative radio program.
And here to guide you through the murky waters of the Political Cesspool is your host, James Edwards.
Well, welcome everybody back to the second hour of tonight's live holiday weekend installment of TPC.
It's Saturday evening, November the 30th.
As the stuffing and turkey and all the fixings settle, we hope that this verbal dessert of TPC tonight is doing you right.
We had an hour, opening hour with Jared Taylor.
Now to Pastor Brett McAtee.
As I just mentioned before the top of the hour break, Pastor McAtee has been with us three times this year.
Now his fourth, he is the husband of a wife without peer, father of three children who walk as heroes in the land, and grandfather of nine.
He is the author of Iron Inc, which is committed to thinking God's thoughts after him.
He has pastored Christ the King Reformed Church in Michigan for over 20 years and counting.
Pastor McAtee continues to minister to his flock every week, every Sunday.
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Pastor McAtee, welcome back tonight.
James, it's excellent to be back.
Thank you.
Well, thank you.
And thank you especially for coming on this holiday weekend.
Now, you were with us a few weeks ago.
I was out.
Great interview.
But there was so much to cover and so little time.
There were some left on the table.
And I wanted to have you back on in short order as soon as we could to pick up the pieces that we couldn't quite get to with Winston.
And from there, of course, go and explore a few other avenues.
But you put up a Facebook post, I believe, what I didn't get to tonight on the decline of the West.
So let's just start with this question.
How have Western governments and parliament contributed to the West's decline?
I think there's a couple of different reasons that you draw from.
Sure.
The West has contributed.
The governments have contributed specifically because the governments have become largely centralized, being largely centralized and largely increasingly incrementally socialist.
They are taking more and more responsibilities to themselves.
That responsibility includes finances through taxation and also through inflation.
They garner that, they gather that, and then they have control over the institutions of the rest of the culture.
And what that happens is that as the centralized government waxes strong, the family wanes, and the family gets weaker and weaker as the government becomes stronger and stronger, and the government takes more and more responsibilities the family should have, one of which, the key one I want to focus in on, is education.
The government then becomes the educator, so-called.
Actually, it's an stupidification process.
They bring in the little kiddies.
They delete the whole concept or notion of Christ as Lord and our thinking.
They say that they can't allow that because that would be unfair to the other gods.
But what they're really doing is inserting themselves as God, then their humanism, and they teach that to the kiddies, and the kiddies then take that out.
And what's interesting is that If they then continue going to church, they bring it into the church and they reinterpret Christianity to that humanism that they've learned from the government and their government schools.
I don't even call them public schools.
It's a misnomer.
It's government schools.
It's no different than children in the former Soviet Union going to school.
That's what we're doing to our children.
That's one way the governments have continued to push this antichrist agenda.
Well, that certainly covers quite a bit of the aspects of it you'd mentioned militarily, educationally, with regard to immigration, of course, legislatively, discouraging children, which that truly is a form of genocide.
Economically, all of these factors create a synthesis that has disturbed our nesting grounds and has impacted our families spiritually, morally, financially, in any way that a people can be discouraged.
Our government and media have worked in cooperation with immigration is another slice of that.
We no longer have an immigration policy per se.
We no longer really have borders per se.
So one thing that you do in order to get rid of a particular people that you don't like, a particular angle or aspect of them, is that you dilute them.
You dilute their numbers.
And so the Christian presence in the United States has been diluted by our immigration policy, not just illegal immigration.
We have a bigger problem with a legal immigration policy.
We have a problem with our asylum policies, our refugee policies.
All these things are working to dilute what's left.
There's not much of it left, to be honest.
They're working to dilute the idea of biblical Christianity.
And so immigration has become a huge thing, a huge vehicle by which the government and the parliaments, and this is more true in Europe even than it is here.
Europe, I don't know how much Europe is going to be able to come back when you combine immigration with the low replacement birth rates.
But immigration here is diluting biblical Christianity, and that's not accidental.
That's being done on purpose in order to, once again, dilute the faith.
So that's another angle.
Another angle that we could talk about is the judicial decisions and how the judicial decisions have removed us away from a foundation of biblical Christianity as the source of law and instead has given us a kind of humanism which is evolving law.
And we've had that ever since Benjamin Cardoza, Christopher Columbus lying down, Wendell Holmes Jr., this idea of evolving law, whatever the 51% of the people want is what they get.
And so the government has really been involved in the diminution of biblical Christianity.
And I would go so far as to say that you will know if we're having reformation by the fact that the government is being brought to heal, the federal government.
As long as the government isn't brought to heal, I don't think that you'll be able to say or speak about having reformation again.
I'm just reading through your notes and what you posted is I guess it's not necessarily an epiphany, but it really should be understood to the full extent that our people have been targeted.
Talk about the wars that drive centralization, the university system, which has just so corrupted our people.
Immigration, you just touched on legislatively, the whole anti-child thing.
You know, of course, in Europe now, Pastor McAtee, they even have billboards that encourage, you know, they target it towards white Christian people, of course, targeting them, encouraging them not to have children, that they need to do their part.
It talks about how each child, how much carbon they exhaust over the course, you know, crazy things like that over the course of a lifetime.
You know, if you don't have a kid, you could save this many trees.
It's unimaginable.
Wow.
But it's being specifically targeted.
Yeah, we've got listeners.
I'll have to send you the picture or perhaps post it on the website or to Twitter.
But there was, yeah, you know, billboard, you know, billboards and, you know, bus posters.
And, you know, it's a campaign over there.
One of our listeners in the UK sent it to me.
And then, of course, we're all under the yoke of the Federal Reserve and the corporate welfare and this whole thing with corporate America.
Anyway, when we come back, we've got a lot of problems to resolve.
But you have to understand the problem, and you have to understand how these different strains are being used against us before you can come to a conclusion and then arrive at a course of action.
We're going to talk about how this decline of the West affects our people, our Christian people, and so much more, and including some things that Pastor hadn't touched on, that we will.
Stay tuned.
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Okay, again, not exactly breaking news, but we're talking with Brett McAtee, Pastor McAtee, about how governments and their various agencies have adversely affected white Christian civilization, the West.
Let's define, though, the West very quickly and succinctly, if we can, Pastor McAtee.
Define the West, its distinguishing features.
How would you put it?
Well, I would say the West is defined by Christianity.
Some, I think it was Ranke, the historian, who said that America, for example, is the grand, Calvin is the grandfather of America.
So the West is defined as Christianity, as that Christianity has been poured over, embraced by the white European peoples, and as well as others who have, other peoples who have decided to embrace that paradigm in ethos.
Though we must say that civilizationally speaking, at least in the last five to eight hundred years, it's only been white Christianity that's been civilizationally Christian.
So the West is defined as Christianity as it's poured over and embraced by a white European peoples.
And intellectually, we got to say it's Christian.
And by the way, we would say that Christianity is the life of the mind.
That's one thing that we're getting tripped up on.
But the West is defined intellectually as Christian, sociologically.
The West is organized patriarchally.
So what we're saying here is that to be part of the West, to be a part of Western man, is to understand that sociologically speaking, we are a patriarchy.
That is, men are the head of their homes.
Men are the head of their families.
This is not a denigration of women.
It's just the understanding that that's what scripture teaches, and that's what the West has always embodied where it's been healthy.
Religiously, the West operates consistent with the revelation found in Scripture alone.
And so it's anti-mystical, anti-superstitious, anti-any kind of Christianity that wants to say that something besides scripture should form our understanding of what truth is.
And so we are a people who, epistemologically speaking, the West has always stood on the idea of revelation.
Our common law, for example, was rooted, English common law is rooted and grounded in Christianity.
Now, that's not to say it's 100% perfect, but that's what its roots are.
That's where it comes from.
It's going all the way back to Alfred the Great.
So Revelation, Scripture alone is our epistemology.
That's what it means to be Western.
And we move away from that, which we are in spades.
When we move away from that, we become less and less Western, as that's been historically understood, ethically.
That's ethically what it is to be Western.
It's to be ruled by God's law.
Now, people don't like that.
They're doing everything they can to get away from it.
But the West has been ruled by God's law because the West understood that in God's law, we found God's transcendence.
And what's happened is that increasingly, man wants to get rid of God's transcendence and instead embrace a transcendence.
So they want to get rid of the objective transcendent and replace it in its place a subjective transcendence, much like a totem pole where you find at the very top of the totem pole the most important being.
And then everything behind that is lesser being, but it's all creational.
It's eliminated the creator.
And so we're trying to get rid of God's law, which is historically what it means and what it's meant to be Western.
You do have some exceptions to that.
For example, in the French Revolution, they also, in 1789, they revolted against God's law.
The whole communist push, the Red Push, and whether it's 1789 or 1815 or 1848 in Europe has been to try to overthrow Christianity.
Overall, when you talk about the West, its ethics has been ruled by God's law.
And its highest value, that its axiological center, is not economic profit, but the extension of God's kingdom.
And this is another place where finance capitalism or corporate capitalism has come in and has displaced this idea of the extension of God's people for economic profit.
Economic profit for the sake of economic profit is of the devil and smells of sulfur.
As God's people, we want to see God's kingdom extended.
And part of the extension of that kingdom is the idea of giving a solid good for a fair price.
But economics is not the highest value for the Western man.
In history, the highest value has been the extension of God's kingdom into every nook and cranny of every area of life.
Fantastic, insightful commentary.
This is what a radio audience needs to be hearing.
And I know you've touched on it, but how will we define the West, its distinguishing features?
How, though, specifically will this decline of the West affect the people who built this civilization that is so under attack?
Well, in brief, as men turn away from Christ, because that's really what we're talking about here, as men turn away from Christ, as they turn away from revelation and the ethics of scripture, men become animals.
The more men turn away from God, the more they become like the animals.
It's as if God created man and hung him, as it were, between himself, that is between God and animals.
And the more he turns his face away from God, the more he turns his face towards the animal and becomes more and more like the animal.
We're seeing that all the time with the whole idea of sodomite marriage, with the whole idea of transgenderism.
We're becoming animals.
It's disgusting.
And so another impact is that we just lose the sense of civilization, the sense of the good, the true, and the beautiful, which can only be defined in the context of biblical Christianity.
You move away from biblical Christianity, you lose the good, the true, and the beautiful because you've lost the creator who defines the good, the true, and the beautiful.
So in turning away from that, we've turned away from Christ.
The only way that we can return to this is by once again turning our face towards Christ, repenting of our sins, crying out to God for forgiveness, and once again seeking his face.
That's the only way that this thing gets turned around.
And you said your radio listeners need to hear this.
Well, I want to tell you something else.
The church needs to hear this.
Most Christians that attend churches today are not attending Christian churches.
They're attending Marxist churches.
And the church needs to hear this.
From California to Maine to Florida, this message has been diluted and lost, and it needs to be returned to pulpits.
Well, I certainly, we're going to spend a segment minimum talking about that.
You're right.
I mean, it would be one thing if we had all of these other institutions against us, but we still had that refuge in Christ's church.
But now it is almost impossible to differentiate many of these churches with their worldly counterparts.
And so we're going to get to that.
Before we do, before we do, let me quickly revisit what people can find at your website.
You write there that the website is a service to God's kingdom people.
If you would like the opportunity to support your ministry, you'd be grateful, but they can also, you write to, if you cannot give, I'm glad that you can profit from what is written.
here.
They can, well, you tell us.
I mean, you've got a blog there.
They can watch here.
What with your sermons?
And how can they do that?
They can go to Iron Inc.
No, Iron Sermons, and you can get the download for the Sunday sermons there.
And you talk about the need for finances.
Our videoing equipment is really antiquated and could be spruced up for the sake of the listeners because often we'll break down the middle of the sermon.
So Iron Sermons, you can follow on the sermons on Sunday.
Iron Inc., you can read what I wrote.
I just posted a couple articles last night.
One has to do with the loss of transcendence in the West, and one has to do with the idea of what culture is and how culture should be defined.
You also, there's another site we have called Iron Theologians.
These are all fledgling websites.
We're a small congregation.
We do what we can.
And I think it's on one of those sites.
You can donate your tithes and offerings if you want to.
No pressure cells here to the church directly.
All right.
We're going to get that website again when we come back.
And we're only halfway through this conversation with Pastor McAtee.
We've talked about some of the other institutions that are targeting our people.
We're going to talk about the church itself and where it stands in this degenerate and corrupt day and age when we come back.
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Pastor, give us that website again for Christ the King Reformed Church in Michigan.
Yes, it's ironsermons.org.
We're also irontheologians.org.
But if you just Google around Christ the King Reformed Church, Charlotte, Michigan, you'll come up on one of our websites, I'm sure.
Okay.
All right.
Yeah, I see it here as well, as people would spell it, charlotreformed.org.
I know that's not the exact pronunciation, but Charlotte, as if it were in Charlotte, North Carolina, Charlotte Reformed.org.
There, you can browse around and visit the service schedule.
I'm there actually here as we speak.
So sermon audio also carries my sermons.
If people just want to listen to audio.
Okay, so it's all there.
And people need that spiritual nourishment.
And we're going to get to that and why and how.
And they're not finding it in the churches to the extent that they should, if at all, and what recourse we have for that.
But again, just to plant the seed, this website is one of them.
Now, you have a great quote.
I actually saw this quote for the first time today, and it was just really powerful.
And it reads, My orders are to fight.
Then if I bleed or fail or strongly win, what matters it?
God only doth prevail.
The servant craveth not except to serve with might.
I was not told to win or lose.
My orders are to fight.
If everybody adopted that mindset, where would our people be today?
A lot further off, a lot further along than we are now.
I mean, I get it, though.
People are in situations where it's hard to fight because fighting would mean losing their jobs, losing their careers, and oftentimes even far braver things, such as the social justice warriors, the communists, had created such an environment.
But where we can fight by God's grace, we ought to fight as much as we know how.
And part of what fighting means, if I might say this, is learning the lay of the land.
It's by, as you can, being in your library reading if you're a pastor.
It's by listening to good lectures of men that are still alive and even some now are gone because of the technology we have.
It takes a lot of work to be able to be like the sons of Issachar who knew the times and what should be done.
And part of the fight is thinking clearly, and that can only be done by just downloading as much information, good information, biblical information as we possibly can, which starts, of course, with having an understanding of the scriptures.
And again, you can get that there at this website, too, ladies and gentlemen.
Now, I want to bring just the most recent example that is out there about what's going on in the churches.
Now, you know, of course, Pastor McAtee, that I have a Southern Baptist background and have starred in one of their productions of The Crucible in recent months.
But listen to what's coming out of this church in Naples, Florida, which is not necessarily a bastion of conservatism down there on the, you know, it's a very ritzy area.
Anyway, this article appeared at VDARE.com, and it begins with this.
It's not news that bureaucrats like Russell Moore and the Soros Evangelicals who now control the Southern Baptist Convention, the country's largest Protestant denomination, have adopted one leftist PC agenda item after another, not least on immigration and quote-unquote diversity.
But now, patriots and local churches are fighting back, and the bureaucrats and allies in local churches are moving to crush them.
Here's the story.
The First Baptist Church in Naples, Florida recently began hiring a new pastor.
Eventually, the congregation's leaders and search committee put black pastor Marcus Hayes up for a vote.
According to Naples' First Baptist rules, an applicant must receive 85%.
Hayes received 81%.
So he didn't get the job.
81%, he needed 85%.
81% confirmed him.
But it was hardly surprising that he didn't get the job because it came to be known during his, I guess, interviews that he supports Kamala Harris, reparations, intersectionality, critical race theory, and Eric Mason's woke church concept, among other things.
He was simply too leftist for a significant group of that congregation.
But rather than move on, the Southern Baptist Convention has gotten involved.
And this is what they write, Pastor.
What happened at First Baptist Church to Naples is disgusting and most likely, of course, they don't know for sure, most likely fueled by resurgent racism in Southern Baptist life.
It's very sad to see this church come to this place.
The president of the Southern Baptist Convention, J.D. Greer, said, thanking God for the bold, gospel, faithful response that is needed at First Baptist Church in Naples.
Sin has to be taken seriously in the church and racial bias contradicts our gospel.
Let us be united in lamenting that any vestige of this kind of sinful racism remains in our churches.
So basically, what has happened here is that, you know, I don't know if you know this, but churches interview candidates to become pastor.
You don't get interviewed, you know, not everybody that interviewed gets the job.
This guy got 81%, but it turned out that he didn't get the job.
And because a black man was not hired to be their pastor, instantly this church is excoriated for the quote-unquote sin of racism by a man who, by the way, J.D. Greer of the Southern Baptist Convention also just in recent days writes that he prefers to call transgender people by their chosen pronouns.
He calls it pronoun hospitality.
So that's where we're at.
But anyway, your reaction to this church, 81% vote for they needed 85.
The guy didn't get it by hair.
But they are now being, again, just completely savaged by their own church leadership as these racist, intolerant, sinful people.
How dare they not put this left-wing black man as their pastor for any reason at all?
Any reason at all is racism.
Yeah, it's interesting.
Actually, I did read some on that, watched a video of a guy before the congregation basically wringing his hands and blaming some kind of cabal or conspiracy to stop the chap from getting the job.
So I am a little familiar with this.
I would also say that anybody, any man who says what J.D. Greer has said is outside the faith.
And I don't care what they say.
That stuff is just pure between the gender pronoun and between the idea of critical race theory, which is behind the intersectionality, which is the presupposition behind what the man's saying.
All that's born pure of Marxism.
So increasingly what we're having in the clergy is we're having guys that are trained in Marxism with a thin subpoena of Christianity.
They've emptied Christianity of its meaning.
They've filled it up with Marxism and cultural Marxism.
What's happening now with the whole race issue is akin to what classical Marxism was, except they went after the whole class structure and went after the bourgeois.
Instead, what's happened now is it's gone into the race, instead of the class, and the new bourgeois is the white Christian, usually white Christian male.
And that's the dynamic that's going on.
Just as classical Marxism had to get rid of the bourgeois, so cultural Marxism, as it's seen in intersectionality and critical race theory, has to get rid of the white male.
And the white male has to do everything he can to grovel before the presence of the perverts and the minority who make up the new proletariat in this new kind of Marxism.
And Greer is part of the chap who's leading the march, the long march to the institutions.
No respect at all.
Man needs to be disciplined in the same world.
He would be disciplined.
And so would many, others who call themselves ministers of the gospel of Jesus Christ right now.
So I think that's a travesty.
I think it's one of those cases where they're going to keep voting until they get the result they want.
Reminds you what Stalin says.
It doesn't matter who votes.
It matters who counts the vote.
Eventually, they'll get the vote they want.
Well, we've seen this before in Southern Baptist, the actual convention convention, where they just keep revoting until, right, the truth prevails at last.
I read stories like this, and this is just the latest of any number we could draw from.
But, you know, I wonder, though, and lament, Pastor, how many hundreds of thousands of people have been driven away from Christianity because of these virtue signaling people, these people who, as A.W. Tozer put it, you know, society is smilingly accepting their surrender.
They're not raising the world up to the church's level.
They're having the church descend to the world's level and seeing that as some sort of a victory because they're being pat on the head.
Right.
I would say the church is losing people, and they should be losing people, to be honest.
Oh, they are.
You know, we see the numbers in the Southern Baptist.
Again, I keep drawing to the Southern Baptist because that was my, you know, that's been the one that I've been familiar with.
But I mean, just the numbers are plummeting.
I mean, you know, the baptisms and memberships are just, it's hemorrhaging year after year after year for many, many years now, decade plus.
Yeah, and, you know, actually, that's good news.
I mean, I hate to say that, but that's good news.
Well, when we come back, I cannot believe my goodness how quickly this hour, I thought we'd done two segments, we've already done three.
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One more segment with Pastor Brett McAtee, and we're talking about the most important issue, really, when it all boils down to it, is our spiritual health and our eternal soul.
And it's a real privilege to be able to bring you a program that addresses these matters along with our other very serious concerns that we face politically and culturally.
But this is really what separates one of the things that separates TPC is that we are never far removed from the eternal.
And I wish more organizations in our ranks would put a focus on this.
But when we do talk about it, Pastor, there's a passage that was written some years ago by a website, faithandheritage.com, that I think just really paints a perfect verbal picture here of what we're talking about.
And they write, an excerpt from this article reads, evangelical churches are dying because they alienate men who are the natural spiritual leaders of families.
The church today, with its cucking on race, feminism, and immigration, demands that the saving grace of Christ come attached at the hip with a sick suicide cult of Nambi-Pamby feminized leaders.
Does this even qualify as gospel when any sane person must reject the suicidal package offered by the modern church?
Any reasonable person would reject such ridiculous practice of religion out of hand, meaning that the very best people will be alienated from Christianity.
We can only hope that there is some measure of extraordinary grace at work today for the reasonable unbeliever, the disproportionately non-religious conservative white who supports Trump cannot but look at the church and gag.
Now, I bring this up to show that we are being very fair and even-handed on this issue.
We recognize the insufficiencies of modern-day church leadership, but we also are able to reconcile that with the faith in Jesus Christ that led so many great people to be more than what they would have been without it.
So that leads me to the question.
What would you say, Pastor, to the heathens in our ranks today, those who see the weak, emasculated so-called leadership of the various Christian denominations and quite understandably recoil?
How can they be reached and come to be equipped with the faith in Christ that was a catalyst in developing some of our greatest warriors, whether it be Jackson and Lee or Charles Martel?
Well, you take your pick.
How do we reconcile what the church currently is and what our people need in order to be the best versions of themselves?
Well, what they need is, first of all, they need to be told that's not the church.
That which they see is the church that is the visible church.
It's just not Christianity.
And that's, to be honest, that's hard to sell because that's where they see it everywhere.
I've dealt with these people.
They're hard to get through to because all they've ever seen of this Christianity is the kind of stuff that you said, they gag it.
I gag at it too.
I don't want to be anywhere near it.
In fact, it's so bad.
I don't even want to tell people when I meet new people that I'm, I don't want to tell them I'm a minister because they have this predesigned idea in their head of what a minister is.
So I try to tell them I'm the custodian or, you know, I'm a nonprofit organization or anything to say, but I'm a minister.
But the thing that we need to do is we need to tell them that's not the church.
And then secondly, we need to give them the gospel of Jesus Christ.
We need to tell them that God is big, that God is transcendent.
He's holy.
That man is fallen, that he's a sinner.
That God thus is justly wrath being holy with.
He's justly wrathful towards sinners, and there's only one solution to that problem, and that is the blood and work of Jesus Christ and the cross for sinners.
We need to return to the strong Calvinistic doctrines of total depravity and unconditional election and limited atonement and irresistible grace and perseverance of the saints.
We need to once again talk about the sociological impact and influence of Christianity upon culture, once it's embraced in its in its essence and its form.
We need to return to these churches as missionaries and we need to remember part of telling them that that's not the church is telling them that Jesus said you don't put new wine into old wineskins, and that these churches today, the overwhelming majority of them, are old wineskin.
And so we have to do something to make ourselves distinguished and distinct from what passes today as Christianity and what that is in our culture.
In our time, for Luther was justification by faith alone, but in our time that what distinguishes and makes us distinct is the understanding that the scripture says, it's all right to love your people and it's all right to understand that God calls people groups and nations as people groups and nations, but that all people groups, in all tongues and all tribes have to bow to the lordship of Jesus Christ, and the lordship of Jesus Christ is patriarchal.
The lordship of Jesus Christ excludes critical race theory and intersectionality.
The lordship of Jesus Christ excludes the whole notion of white privilege.
It excludes all those things, and we can find the exclusion of that in the scriptures if we study to show ourselves approved workmen who need not to be ashamed, holding forth the word of God.
Fantastic answer uh pastor, and I and I appreciate you sharing that uh, sharing that with us.
And you know, can I I was talking in the previous segment, uh hour rather, with our guest and I, he and I agreed that Western civilization is not going to go out the way that we see it right now with this, this satanism, this.
You know the drag school.
You know literal demons coming into the, the schools and and um uh, libraries and and reading.
You know about transgenderism and sodomy.
You know to these innocent precious, impressionable little children, I mean, you know five years old, six years old that's just one example transgenderism in corporate America.
That the bad, I mean, just everything.
I mean we would never finish if we, if we started going down the litany of uh absurdities And demonic advancements that have been made throughout the West in recent years.
But I was talking with our previous guest that I know in my heart that we're not going to go out that way.
And I don't have to be able to tell you exactly what will be the catalyst, when it will turn around, what day, what time, what chain of events that will lead to our people's awakening.
I just know that our people are not going to go out.
And I think, as I put it in the last hours, this mueling, apologetic, weak, effeminate people.
Our men, by the way, are where it's going to begin.
I mean, and our men have to be manly again.
Our men have to be armed with the truth and the courage to tell it.
But anyway, I do believe, Pastor, that all that's going to happen.
And I guess this is going to be a rhetorical question.
Can any of that happen without Christ being at the center of it?
Can we have a revival in our nations that isn't born from the Christian faith?
We look in Eastern Europe and we see they are revisiting the faith and they are becoming healthy again.
In the West, where we have abandoned the faith, we are becoming weak.
There has to be a direct correlation there, at least I see it.
Is there any way we can have a positive, healthy resurgence without faith?
Absolutely not.
Absolutely not.
Anything that presents itself as an answer that isn't anchored and lodged in Christ and his role as high priest and our great liege Lord, any answer that presents itself that isn't anchored in that is just going to take us down rabbit trails that'll be just as bad as where we're at now.
It must be the scene as the supremacy of the Lord Christ as he is found walking through the scriptures that we must return to.
And I would even go further, and some are going to take exceptions to this, and that's okay.
But I would even go further and I would say it's got to be reformed Christianity.
It's got to be that old Calvinism that animated Western Europe and brought Reformation to Western Europe.
It's got to be that kind of Christianity that's going to reform the West if it's going to happen again.
And one thing that is connected to all this is we need to be people crying out to God for that.
We need to be in our prayer closets, crying out that God might give us reformation, crying out that God might remove from us these wicked, wicked men and pulpits all across the nation and all stripes of denominations.
We need to be people that are looking to God in prayer, soliciting and begging and pleading that God might give us reformation.
And we need to stand up from there and put hands and legs and feet to our prayers, working for reformation, remembering that our orders are to fight.
And so, no, there won't be no reformation without biblical Christianity.
And that excludes the idea of theistic evolution that some people try to promote as Christianity.
It excludes all kinds of stuff.
But the West was built on biblical Christianity of the Calvinistic variety, and it's only going to be reformed in that same way.
That's my conviction.
Pastor, it's been a fantastic, uplifting hour of truth.
If you could give us that website one more time, we want people to hear from you, learn from you, not just on the appearances you make on this show, although we do hope that they will be more frequent and we will work with you towards that end.
But let's give them that website one more time because people are searching for this, I believe, and are better when they find it.
And it is hard to find churches in some communities.
We have listeners all over the country, indeed the world, but they can find that spiritual nourishment at your website, if nowhere else.
And give us that website.
It's at Iron Inc. I-R-O-N-I-N-K dot O-R-G.
There's also material at ironsermons.org, irontheologians.org, and they can listen on sermon audio.
And if I might, another good place you can find me and some other chats that are really excellent is tribaltheocrat.com.
Oh, interesting.
All right.
I'll certainly bookmark that as well.
And with only seconds remaining before the music starts, a final word to you.
Yes, I think that our focus needs to be on this fact of returning to Christ, of understanding biblical Christianity and all of its glories.
That's how we'll meet great men and great women once again, is by returning to the Christ that walks in scripture.
Ladies and gentlemen, Pastor Brett McAtee, it will not be the last time you hear him on this show.
Pastor, Godspeed.
We'll talk to you again soon.
Thank you, brother.
God's blessings.
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