Sept. 21, 2019 - The Political Cesspool - James Edwards
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The Political Cesspool, known across the South and worldwide as the South's foremost populist conservative radio program.
And here to guide you through the murky waters of the political cesspool is your host, James Edwards.
All right, the second hour is now upon us, ladies and gentlemen, this Saturday evening, September the 21st.
We are live, unrehearsed and uncensored, as always.
James Edwards and Keith Alexander here in the studio.
You just heard a great first hour from Mark Weber, who helped us make sense of the ongoing and continuing developing situation in the Middle East.
In the third hour, Paul Fromm will be back to talk about the Justin Trudeau brownface fiasco.
What's going on in Canada, Paul Fromm, our favorite Canadian free speech activist, will be filling us in on that.
But now, Roger Devlin, Dr. F. Roger Devlin, returns to the show.
He is, of course, a contributing editor to the Occidental Quarterly and the author of a book that I trust everyone in our listening audience will have in their home library, Sexual Utopia and Power, The Feminist Revolt Against Civilization.
Roger.
Welcome back, and how are you?
In an audio edition, I should say.
Now, do you voice the audio edition?
That's interesting.
That's right, yes.
So you can get it from Countercurrents.
It's me reading it.
You can't get it from Amazon, unfortunately, because they have censored it.
But I do have an audio book now out through Countercurrents Publishing.
Now, that book is that Sexual Utopia Power.
That's the Utopian Power.
That's the epic.
Yes.
Well, now, this is interesting.
How long did it take to read through that?
I think it's several hours longer than I expected.
I'm not actually sure the exact length of it.
I'd have to look it up myself.
But it took quite a while to record it.
We had to redo most of the takes.
You know, it was a complicated process.
I had to learn some unfamiliar technical skills in order to do it.
Well, if it's available on a cassette tape, Keith will be a buyer.
I've written to Keith Carl.
Yeah, right.
I'm still back in the cassette age.
Well, is it just the article Sexual Utopian Power or is it the other articles that are in the United States?
It's the whole book.
It's the whole book.
Yeah.
They didn't shortchanges.
That's a great announcement.
Wow.
I should have known that, but I didn't know that.
But we certainly want you to buy the book.
And now the audio version.
Yeah, in the dulcet tones of Roger himself.
Yes, right, right.
Well, he doesn't just write books.
He also writes engrossing articles, one of which we saw recently, even though it actually came out a few weeks ago.
But it's one that I think tackles the topic of our age, and that is the continuing deterioration of our political discourse.
I think, Roger, if we go much further, our political discourse will come to the point where we just grunt and make angry gestures at one another.
We throw rocks at one another.
Yeah, something like that.
You had a great article that I think originally appeared on VDARE.
I've seen it in other places as well, such as uns.com.
But let's talk about the devil term that was invented to dispossess Americans.
Give us your treatment.
That's right.
I originally called it the white supremacy smear.
But I cite this concept that was, as far as I know, coined by the southern philosopher Richard M. Weaver, one of my favorite authors.
He noticed in his time, and I'm talking about the middle of the last century, like 1953, in his books, The Ethics of Rhetoric, he talked about God terms and devil terms.
And what these terms have in common is that they don't clearly refer to anything, but they bias you either in its favor or against it.
Like, for example, God terms would be democracy, progress.
In his time, science was an important term.
You know, even Karl Marx claimed that his socialism was scientific.
Freedom, of course, is a God term.
And then devil terms are terms that are meant to manipulate the reader or listener into disliking something without making clear what it is.
Like, well, in past ages, if you didn't like somebody, you might call them a heretic or an atheist back when we still had a Christian culture.
Nowadays, of course, we know what the devil terms are.
The things you and I get called, racist, white supremacist, fascist, neo-Nazi, and a lot of the times opponents really don't have much else to say except to call us those names.
And you know, Roger, back in the 50s, we had to analyze this a little bit and to talk about how a devil term such as white supremacist works.
It's not a special kind of word.
It has, as I say, I introduced the distinction between denotation and connotation, which is like what you learn in Linguistics 101.
A word has a denotation, which is an objective reference.
And then it can have negative or positive connotations, too.
And a devil term is simply a term that has extremely negative connotations, but does not clearly refer to any class of people.
So that, you know, anybody can be called a racist.
Now they're calling Justin Trudeau a racist.
And, you know, nobody is immune from it.
Not just people like, you know, even hardcore liberals.
Roger, this is Keith Alexander.
Let me just say, you know, the right has been guilty of this too, like in the 50s.
Oh, sure.
The right used communist as a devil term, I guess.
Although it did have more of a denotation than just simply connotation.
There's probably more of an element of truth in those accusations.
The way they're being applied today.
The difference between communists and white supremacists are that communists actually exist.
There was a Communist Party in the Soviet Union.
Now, most of the Americans who got called, well, many of them who got called communists loosely back in the 1950s, maybe were just liberals, or at least some of them.
But yeah, that is a good example of a devil term for our side.
Well, there is something interesting, too, Roger, about that, is that the liberals of the day decried McCarthyism as this intolerable evil.
And now they have taken McCarthyism to the third house.
Yeah, to the third power to an exponential degree.
I mean, they actually, what they do with their denunciations of everyone with whom they disagree as a racist, Nazi, white supremacist, terror leader, et cetera, et cetera, all the way up to and including the president.
I mean, they make a parody of what they claimed was wrong doing with McCarthyism.
That's right.
They call it a witch hunt.
And that wasn't so true of McCarthy since communists exist and witches don't.
But it certainly is true.
I've never met any white supremacists.
You know, Jared Taylor says the same thing.
He's been advocating for whites for 30 years.
He's never met anybody who's interested in seeing whites rule over non-whites.
It's just, you know, you can't find people like that.
You know, I'm glad you mentioned Jared.
Jared was on the show last week.
So if you missed last week's broadcast, Jared's, of course, a regular guest in our rotation as well, as is Roger, as is Mark Weber and Paul Fromm, who will be back with us tonight, too.
A great stable of talent here at TPC.
So catch that if you missed it last week.
And certainly we talked about this.
Now, we did talk about this very topic with Jared last week.
He was talking about how the Democrats are now saying that, you know, to a man or a woman, every candidate in the Democratic primary is calling Trump a white nationalist or a white supremacist, which of course they use interchangeably.
They've really graduated from racist and racism to white supremacists and even a terrorist in some cases or terror leader or someone who inspires white nationalist terrorism.
We're going to get to that as well because we have this now from the Justice Department.
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Back with Dr. F. Roger Devlin, author of the book, Sexual Utopia and Power, The Feminist Revolt Against Civilization, now available as an audio version, thanks to CounterCurrents and Greg Johnson.
Dr. Devlin, though, back with us this evening to talk about a relatively recent article for V-Dair, syndicated at UNS and other places as well, about the devil term for the dispossession of traditional Americans.
Now, this is nothing new.
We know that leftists, and it's really a lot of projection in play, I think, Roger.
A lot of projection.
They say we're racist.
We're the ones that are full of faith.
But really, it is them who are full of racist hatred, anti-white racist hatred of the founding stock of this nation.
And be that as it may, this is not a new phenomenon.
I wrote a book about this in 2010, Racism-Schmaism, how liberals used the R-word to push the Obama agenda.
This isn't a new thing we're uncovering tonight for you folks, but it has escalated.
It is escalating.
It is moving on now.
I can just say, again, even with writing about contemporary mainstream paleoconservatives like Pat Buchanan, now Pat Buchanan is universally defamed as a white supremacist, whereas before they may mention, yeah, you know, he's a racist and he's, you know, out of touch, but now he's a white supremacist.
Donald Trump, the president of the United States, is a white supremacist.
I was talking about this last week with Jared Roger, and we want to continue to go back to your article.
Keith read your article as well.
I know he's got a question for it.
But do you think that in some way, some unintentional way, this actually helps those of us who are out there who are similarly defamed, that if they say, do you think normal Americans say, well, look, if Jim Trudeau is a racist, then who, heaven tell, is not.
No, if Donald Trump is a white supremacist, maybe we should go back and give these other guys a second hearing.
We know they're lying about Trump.
Maybe they're lying about Devlin and Taylor and Edwards and Alec Carter.
When a word applies to everybody, it doesn't apply to anybody.
Words are intended to distinguish one class of people from another.
So when you remove all the denotation from a word, you render it useless and it just becomes like, you know, something like a primal scream or something like that.
Well, I think it was Orwell back in the 30s that said that the word fascist had been overused to such a degree that when he heard someone say that Jones was a fascist, he just interpreted that to mean that I don't like Jones.
A question for Roger, Keith.
You read the article.
You read the article.
We were prepping on this.
You read it.
Observations, a question for the author.
Well, it seems that racist, white supremacist, white nationalist, all of these things are used almost interchangeably now.
I think that the left is intending now to try to impeach Donald Trump for being a racist.
And now, because of the white privilege theme, anybody who is white is a white racist.
Am I overreacting?
What do you think?
Well, the impeachment is supposed to be for high crimes and misdemeanors.
Being a racist is usually, you know, of course, we don't, it doesn't really mean anything, but it seems to refer to people's thoughts.
So this is an example of, well, what George Worwell called thought crime.
The idea that holding certain thoughts is criminal in itself.
And I've actually seen people say, well, white nationalism is an inherently violent ideology.
And they say this because, you know, most white advocates are not violent people.
So they'll say, well, it's just the ideology is violent.
And what they're getting at there is the concept that Orwell called thought crime, that we're criminals just for harboring certain thoughts.
And so, you know, if it ever gets to the point where they're impeaching politicians over that, then, yeah, we will have become a kind of totalitarian state.
1984 was a satire mainly of Stalin's Soviet Union.
And those are the kind of ideas that we're seeing from the left today.
You know, support for the idea of thought criminalism.
Well, the left today has ideas that would have made Stalin blush.
Well, I was laughing about it because, yes, I think, you know, obviously Roger's right, but now it's Russia maybe the key to our people's survival, and it's America that actually took it further in some ways.
Oh, yes.
Stalin.
Yeah.
But it's pretty easy to trace the evolution from Soviet communism to our cultural Marxism.
That's probably a subject for another conversation, but it definitely goes back to what we call cultural Marxism.
It goes back to the old Marxism, certainly.
You know, I don't think in the last 15 years, maybe there's been a handful, and I mean five or less, that have been attacked more often or more times than the royal we here at this radio program.
And so we've been subjected to it for a long, long time, 15 years and going strong.
The most recent attack piece came out just this week.
And I have noticed in reading this article that they don't just call you these dirty names.
And really, obviously it's unfair and not applicable.
But they don't just call you at once.
They cram it in there like it's no tomorrow.
I mean, I actually sent it out to our email list.
I said, try to count the slurs in this piece.
And again, interchangeably, the words white supremacist, white nationalist, Nazi, anti-Semite, racist, you know, they use them all, and they do use them all, but they use them multiple times.
I think the word white supremacist or the two words, the phrase white supremacist alone appeared five or six times in one article, one article of normal length, one normal length article.
They will pack it in about, you know, they will pack it in.
There was one paragraph where white supremacists appeared four times.
Okay, four sentences four times.
You see this in the SPLC's writings, the Southern Poverty Law Center.
There's a rhetorical analysis of the Southern Poverty Law Center.
This is one of the things they do.
Constant repetition, constant emotional manipulation through adjectives, you know, and labels like that.
And it's something that's characteristic of the whole left.
You can actually find it in Lenin's writings back in, you know, a century ago.
Roger, you're absolutely on to something because, as a matter of fact, the headline was exactly copy and pasted from an SBLC piece.
It's like they copy and paste it and then just change the date and a couple of facts to make it to get across the point of this particular story.
But no, it actually reads like the literary term for the prose of an SBLC piece in that every word, Every person or every idea that they want to denounce, they put one of these words in front of it immediately before.
I imagine.
And the overuse of intensifiers is another thing you'll notice.
Like, instead of calling people violent, the SBLC will say that they're ultra-violent.
Now, does anybody know how to distinguish between being violent and being ultra-violent?
This is the same thing.
That's like being super, super cartoon character instead of just reactionary, you know.
Well, and obviously, they have to feel as though it is.
I mean, obviously, there are outliers like us and you and the people we regularly feature on this who are impervious to these attacks.
And although they may be inconvenient and we may not particularly like them, we're not going to let lives of others inhibit our good work.
But they certainly feel as though, they must feel as though their tactics are effective in silencing a great deal of people who would naturally agree with us on these issues.
And that's why they do it.
Why else would they do it?
Oh, sure.
I'm sure there are a lot of people who are torn between believing the way we do and being afraid to kind of, well, to express themselves or even to think their own thoughts to their logical conclusions because of this ritual denunciation.
Hold on right there, Roger.
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Welcome back, Roger Devlin, great man, great intellect.
He's talking to us about the tactics of really, and let's just put it bluntly, the white-hating racists.
Well, it's demonization.
We called it devil terms, but really it's the old-fashioned concept of demonization they're using for it.
Well, there's some demons involved here, that's for sure, because, I mean, forget the fact about the lies being told, about those who have an affinity for their own culture.
You know, Europeans, rather, European Americans who have an affinity for their own culture, who prefer their own family to that of others, but while hating no one, you know, certainly love their own family a little bit more than others.
And that that's some sort of an evil, that that's some sort of white supremacy.
I mean, they lie about that, we know.
But I am telling you, they lie about everything.
I have seen in official reports that we have White House press credentials.
They just make it up.
They just make it up now.
Well, if you read an article on James, you think he's the personification of Yosemite Sam.
He's in a whirling dervish of sputtering rage at every moment in his life.
But at the same time, every waking moment.
You know, even according to Hillary Clinton, even Hillary Clinton said during the campaign that I would be wielding the rudder of the Trump administration if he should be elected.
She put that on a fundraising appeal.
So, I mean, I'm just saying they make it up.
They lie.
That's what they do.
If only.
Maybe someday we'll.
Exactly.
If only.
If only is true, Roger.
But here's the point.
I mean, we can laugh about this, and it is laughable.
Let's make no mistake about it.
It is laughable.
But at the same time, it is quite serious.
So here we find a headline this weekend, Roger.
This is, again, part and parcel to what we've been talking about tonight, about how they discredit dissenting voices by trying to shout them down.
Now they have silenced so many people because white people are afraid of being disinvited to the next cocktail party.
They are afraid of being socially honest.
They want society validation.
They want to be pat on the back and told they're good people.
And so the risk of being shouted down as a racist or all of these scare words, these terms, has done a lot.
But it is getting more serious than that even.
And so we read here just this week that so-called white nationalism, whatever that is, is now recognized as a major terror threat by the Department of Homeland Security.
So, yeah, your thoughts on that, Roger?
I mean, this is serious.
A couple of weeks ago, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez was trying to make out that white supremacism was terrorism, and the fellow who was up before the house testifying was trying to explain to her that a terrorist is somebody who commits terrorism.
Now, actually, Roger, not to interrupt you, but Jared and I were talking about this last week on the show where Elizabeth Warren said her first day in office, she's going to appoint a new czar that will go after white supremacists.
And then only after being pressed, she said, well, yeah, they'll have to commit a crime first.
But no, I mean, that goes up with the interpretation negotiable terms.
That's right.
Right, exactly.
And, of course, again, there we're back to what we were talking about before, the Orwellian concept of thought crime, also seen in the gambit, the gambit that white nationalism is somehow inherently violent.
That's an attempt to finesse, to blur the distinction between thought and action, obviously.
So, yeah, that's the way it was in the Soviet Union.
If you didn't believe in communism, you were an enemy of the state.
You were a criminal.
Maybe Joe Biden was right when he said we believe in truth rather than facts.
Yeah.
Yeah, go ahead, Roger.
No, you were making a point.
No, no, I'm sorry.
I'm finished.
Well, let's get back to this whole thing about white nationalism being the newest, biggest, greatest threat to American security, according to the DHS.
Brad Griffin over at ISIS, dissent.com.
Very quickly, Brad Griffin pointed out the facts.
I mean, if you take into account white people who have behaved badly and committed these heinous crimes, and we'll own that, there have been a handful of them.
I mean, literally, you could count them on your fingers.
Sure.
And no one's not associated with you or us.
And they're not associated with anybody.
That's what Brad Griffin wrote.
Nobody could have stopped Dylan Roof because no one knew Dylan Roof.
He wasn't a member of any of these organizations.
Nobody could have stopped Patrick Crucius.
No one knew who he was.
No one could have stopped Britton Tarrant in New Zealand.
Nobody knew who he was.
He wasn't a part of or a follower of organizations.
He's not a part of a member of our version of the Communist Party.
No, there was none of that.
There was no contact.
So if the federal government, this is what Brad writes, knew how to stop these mass shootings, they would have done it already.
But since they can't, and since they don't know how, they're going to go after people who talk about ideas that they think these shooters may have been attracted to or motivated by.
And those are the people they're going to put into jail because they have to do something.
And Brad writes this in closing.
Do you remember the last mass shooting?
This is just a couple of weeks ago.
It's already been memory hold in Odessa, Texas.
So that was sent down the memory hole by the media because it didn't fit the white supremacist terrorism narrative.
But Seth Attor, the shooter there, called the FBI tip line before the shooting.
He had been calling them for years.
He personally red-flagged himself to the FBI, and they still couldn't or didn't stop him because they were too focused on flagging, you know, what, Jared Taylor, maybe.
I don't know.
But this is the thing.
I mean, this is where we're at, though, Roger.
They're saying this is the greatest threat.
You're talking about a handful of guys.
Right.
And their biggest threat to.
They're all loners, people who are not connected.
You know, a movement can actually sometimes serve to control people.
If you have an organization, it can serve to keep people in line.
These guys tend to be very, very alienated loners, guys without many friends who lash out like this in a futile way.
Yeah, well, and it's so obvious that, you know, we are not encouraging people to do what they do.
They're not members.
They're not affiliated.
They don't belong to any organizations.
They don't even visit the website.
Well, we've always been very clear about violence and illegal activities.
I mean, obviously, stay away from that.
You're just asking to ruin your life.
We're all family men here.
We don't want to risk that.
We have children.
We have wives.
And what could be more futile than killing random strangers?
You know, that's the most foolish move that anyone can make that's trying to change the policy of the government or of society.
Well, that actually brings another question, Roger.
If the government, if the Department of Homeland Security truly believes that so-called white nationalist, well, let me just read the headline again.
Let me just read it again so I'm sure to get it right.
That white nationalism is now a major terror threat.
If they really believe that, how far off and disconnected from reality is our own government?
And that's scary if they really believe that because it's so untrue and so disconnected from facts and logic.
Right.
There's very there really isn't any white terrorist organization in the way that Muslims have their Muslim Brotherhood and Hamas.
You know, those are there.
They have real networks that support this kind of action and the kind of people who do it.
There's nothing like that.
That's why they use terms like Nazism and the Klan and whatnot, because in the historic past, there may have been organizations that did that, but there are no organizations now that have any footprint to speak of that are advocating or trying to mobilize violence against people on the left.
But when you do have the very rare occasion when a white person goes on, breaks bad, so to speak, and goes on one of these shooting sprees, they will attach him to us in imaginary ways in order to discredit our very heartfelt and logical.
And they will just out of thin air conclude that they're Nazis or Klansmen, for example.
Right, right.
I don't see that.
Of course, made more convenient by the manifesto, undoubtedly, that the agency wrote for them.
But, you know, we've never actually heard any of these people with manifestos own up to the manifesto.
We'll just take their word for it, I guess.
But anyway, it all ties into your article, does it not?
No, sure.
Yes, this is, yeah, that's right.
That's how it's a form of scapegoating, I suppose.
Tying certain beliefs to certain actions that don't necessarily follow and kind of erasing distinctions between people.
I think many people on the left don't have any idea that the Nazis in Germany in the 1930s weren't really exactly the same as the Ku Klux Klan.
I mean, if you're a historian and you know about these organizations, you know that they were, you know, not interchangeable.
But, you know, the part of the different categories is very confusing.
Yeah, but they're all right.
I mean, Roger, we've been talking about this.
The words, the terms are interchangeable.
The organizations are interchangeable.
Nazism is interchangeable with the Klan, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera.
Now, there's no distinction.
And of course, you can do that when you have a dumbed-down Meroffi society, a disguised society like we have now in America.
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And they made it easier to trademark.
Now, did I tell you that the letters SCH still make the shh sound?
As in all those American food producers saying, shh, let's keep it really quiet that our product is kosher certified.
Think about it.
Nearly one century of kosher certification, and hardly anyone outside Exclusive Observers knows that most packaged food and kitchen products are literally certified by religious intermediaries.
Well, because you, consumer, are indirectly paying for this, the Coach Certified app is here to make kosher certification awareness an inclusive matter for people of all faiths and identities.
And it even boasts a unique database of products not kosher certified.
We call that NKC.
Start meming it.
It's fun.
NKC, not kosher certified.
Now, to confuse our audience even more, we put a question mark at the end of our name.
And that really cinched our trademark approval.
It relates to the website where you can begin your new shopping behavior, thekosherquestion.com.
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Roger Devlin, our featured guest for tonight, on a night that features any number of fantastic contributors.
Mark Weber and Paul Fromm.
Roger Devlin anchoring the show tonight as he is on for an hour.
The others are on for a half hour.
But we're talking about the devil's term to dispossess traditional Americans.
And of course, it is an interchangeable term, white nationalist, white supremacist, racist, anti-Semite, Nazi, neo-Nazi.
They use these terms to pretty effective degrees.
But, you know, what is amazing is that you now have the Department of Homeland Security just this week saying that so-called white nationalist terrorism is one of our greatest threats.
Now, if they truly believe that, and they're not just pretending to believe that, we have a situation where the inmates are running the asylum because you can literally name on your fingers, on two hands, the number of white men who have gotten, you know, gone berserk, frankly, and committed heinous acts.
But you can do it on your two hands.
In other words, it'd be a slow weekend in Chicago if you put all of the so-called white nationalist terrorists on.
Body count would be a slow weekend in Chicago.
That's right.
There you go.
That's what I'm talking about.
Roger Devlin's been our guest.
Keith, what do we like about Roger before we toss it back to him?
Well, Roger stalks the wild taboo.
I think there used to be a website by Louis Andrews that used to go by that name.
I remember it well.
He is Trader Hoen on this or Trader Horn.
He goes into the deepest, darkest jungles of American and Western European life, and he will tackle these wild taboos, shining light into the dark corners of experiences that are really impacting our plight.
For example, female sexual carnality.
That's not something that's really a topic that a lot of people want to talk about.
How do we not get into that tonight with Roger?
I know, but see, that's his signature article about that.
He identifies and analyzes that with precision and with clarity and with intellectual rigor.
He does that with every topic that he engages in, and he's an invaluable resource, not only to people on the political right, but to mankind and humankind generally.
You know, he is doing the work that most intellectuals refuse to do.
There you go.
Wow, Roger, that's high praise.
Well, thank you, Keith.
Yeah, yeah.
I used to be in the academy, but now that I'm out, I can write about anything I want to.
It's wonderful.
Well, Roger, very quickly, your thoughts on what we just touched on.
If American law enforcement agencies truly believe what they're pretending to believe or what they're putting out, I mean, what does that say about the American government and intelligence community?
Somebody needs to ask them the same question that Elizabeth Warren was asked.
And, you know, are they going after people's thoughts or are they going after actions?
And these recent shootings by white people, I don't think, like the El Paso shooting, I don't know that there were any clues beforehand.
You know, these loners, they sometimes don't really leave much in the way of traces.
So you really can't anticipate lone wolf attacks like that if the guy's halfway through.
Of course, when they do leave a manifesto like Patrick Crucius, the El Paso shooter, where he specifically denies being a white nationalist or a white supremacist, he's just angry that the immigration laws of our society, of our nation, are not being enforced.
They blithely ignore everything he said and continue to call him a white supremacist.
Well, they've done that to all of us, I mean, as far as that goes.
But that's another good point.
Thank you, Keith.
I mean, Roger, your thoughts on that?
So if anybody believes that, hey, you know, we need to have border security, are you too then a white supremacist terror threat?
Apparently, you are.
Yeah, anybody, anybody who wants to enforce the law, anybody who might, you know, think of voting for Donald Trump, you know, that's and of course, it's obvious that the term has been relieved of all meaning at that point.
So, you know, it's, but a lot of people don't see through it.
I try to explain the kind of the mechanism behind the trick.
It's a little bit like a shell game.
You start with a, there is a dictionary definition of white supremacy, which is something like somebody who believes that white people are superior or should rule over other races and should rule over.
Right, yeah, yeah.
And then you see it applied to anybody who wants the border enforced, which would make, you know, all of our forefathers white supremacists.
And the current president, you know, right.
Presumably.
I think that shows more about the left and their motivation.
They realize that basically having an open borders policy is an anti-white policy.
And they don't want, and they recognize it, and they are basically validating the correctness of that analysis by attacking people that have that opinion as white supremacists.
The whole point, the whole point of the open borders is to displace white people.
I guess you heard about Mark Potok's little chart that he puts on his wall showing how the...
Yeah, we have, but explain it to the audience.
Yeah, it was, I think it was an image that was accidentally captured in some kind of documentary.
Mark Potok, formerly of the Southern Poverty Law Center, actually keeps a chart on his wall which shows the white percentage of the American population declining year by year, which just makes it obvious.
That's the motive.
That's the motivation for what people like that do.
They want to see whites displaced.
They talk about preventing hate and preventing bias, but what it's really about is obviously replacing us, replacing legacy Americans of European descent.
And we've said this before, Roger, but let me repeat it for this.
If you look at every left-wing movement that we've had since Brown versus Board of Education forward, feminism, the No-Fault Divorce Initiative, homosexual rights, all of these things have one common thread that runs through them, and that's they work to reduce white birth rates.
Yes, yes.
Roger, with time running out, give us some contact information where you would direct people to go to learn more about your work and to support your work, even if it's buying your book, whether it be the print version or the audio version.
Well, my book, Sexual Utopian Power, is available from Countercurrents.
It's also still available from Barnes and Noble.
They have not censored it yet, but Amazon.com has censored my books along with Jared Taylor's and a lot of other of our friends.
My article on the white supremacy smear, it's called The Devil Term Invented to Dispossess Americans, is available on VDARE.
It was the lead article for August 16th.
You can find it at VDARE or at unst.com.
So read it for yourself.
And how much time do we have?
There's one other thing I wanted to mention before we go off the internet.
By all means.
No, Roger, by all right.
You're the guest.
We have three minutes remaining.
Take it away.
Okay.
I believe that Kevin McDonald has been a guest on your program.
Isn't that true, James?
Only about 100 times.
Okay.
And as recently as two weeks ago, he's a great friend and a regular guest.
He has a new book out.
I think probably a lot of your listeners don't know about this, but he has a new book out.
It's been out for about a week.
It's called Individualism and the Western Liberal Tradition.
I'm proud to say that I helped to edit it, and I have a review that I've submitted to VDARE.
I hope that'll be up in the next couple of days, followed by maybe an excerpt or two from the book itself.
But you can get it for the moment.
You can get it from Amazon and grab it before the censors get to it.
I just ordered my book.
Give us a few choice bon mots from that book or from your reading of it that you think you'd like to share.
Well, answer Keith, but I should make mention that when Kevin was on two weeks ago, he made mention that the book would be imminently forthcoming.
He was still providing the index, completing the index.
And so now it is out.
Yes, I did know that.
And thank you, Roger, for making mention of that.
You know, I do, in addition to Kevin being a regular guest on this program, I do a monthly YouTube show with Kevin as well, T-O-Q Live.
And this is big news.
This is his magnum opus.
It's a wonderful book.
Don't fly and intrigues you.
He's famous for writing about his trilogy about Judaism.
And in a sense, what he does here is something similar for us, for European-descended people.
He talks about the deep sources of Western civilization, of our culture.
It's a very interesting story, and he shows how these deep sources are still expressed even in modern political debates.
Like conflicts between different white groups in the past can be expressed as like conflicts between different political alliances in the present.
It's fascinating stuff.
Well, thank you, Roger, for making mention of that.
He's a good friend to you, to me, to Keith, to all of us, to all the fearless intellectuals who stalks the wild taboo.
A friend to all of Western man and to the traditions of the West, Kevin McDonald.
And he and I shared a speaking engagement a couple of weeks ago.
I was actually with him a couple of weeks ago under In the Flesh, and just a great man.
And thank you for making mention of that book.
We'll talk more about that as well.
Roger Devlin, thank you.
Wow, a full hour and a complete hour is already come and gone with Roger Devlin.
Thank you for providing your insights and intellect to the broadcast.