Nov. 24, 2018 - The Political Cesspool - James Edwards
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Ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to the second hour of tonight's live broadcast of TPC this Saturday evening, November the 24th.
I received an email about a month ago from an old friend who has not appeared, as come to find out, in nearly 10 years on this show, although it doesn't seem that long.
It just goes to show how fast the years do go by.
Time slies when you're having fun.
Absolutely it does.
But nevertheless, I received this email, and of course, I was excited to have him back on.
Tremendous oversight on my part, but we've been he's been a great occasion for this, though, because he's the author of a newly released book.
Well, that is, of course, the occasion, and I guess the reason we're having him on, although any reason would do.
But he has been traveling abroad quite extensively over the last month, so this is the soonest that it worked for our mutual schedules.
But the gentleman in question is none other than Greg Johnson, the owner of Counter Currents Publishing and the authors of nine books, including his most recent, The White Nationalist Manifesto.
That's the book he's going to be on to discuss tonight.
It has received rave reviews from a number of friends of TPC, including Dr. Roger Devlin, Tito Perdue, Gregory Hood over at Amran, and many others.
Greg, how are you tonight?
I'm fine.
It's great to be back on.
Yes, it's been entirely too long.
So let's talk about the book.
And it is an epic.
Folks, let me just tell you very quickly, I'll just go through the chapters because this is apparently an all-encompassing magnum opus, if you will.
Just some of the chapters, white extinction, white genocide, ending white genocide in the short run, restoring white homelands, the ethnostate, whiteness, supremacism, what's wrong with diversity, homogeneity, whitopia, politics, metapolitics, and hegemony, a winning ethos, the relevance of the old right, white nationalism is inevitable.
That is painting with a broad brush, but it gets into the specifics in fine detail.
Greg, where to begin on such a book?
Well, you use the word epic, and you shouldn't – well, I'm not going to say that that's a bad word, but epic connotes length in people's minds.
And one of the things I tried to do with this book is to keep it brief.
So it's 138 pages of text.
It's written on a level that starts out with an eighth grade reading level and ramps up to about an 11th grade reading level.
It's written very simply.
It's very short.
It's the kind of book that a fast reader can read in a day and that a slower reader can knock out in two days.
And my goal was to make this briefest, most accessible case for why white nationalism exists, why it's a movement, why it's a thing, what it means, and what's the rationale for it.
And I make an argument based on population biology.
It's the kind of argument that you get from people who are arguing for policies to save the whales and save the rainforests, namely that whites are afflicted right now with the major biological causes of extinction.
And these causes are not accidental.
They're not natural.
They're caused by political policies.
And so I argue that the white genocide thesis makes sense.
It really is genocidal.
These policies in the long term will lead to the disappearance of our race, and therefore we need habitats preserved for ourselves.
And for that, we need to have white nationalism, white ethno-states, as I say.
Basically, we need to have control of our own homelands and create societies where our people in all of its different cultures, in all of its cultural diversity, can flourish rather than dwindle into nothingness, which is the path that we're currently on today.
We're going to give people all the information on how they can learn more about the book and, of course, get the book before the end of the hour.
We're going to spend most of the hour on this topic.
And in fact, Greg is our guest for the entire hour.
Papa JF over at the public space wrote with his endorsement that the White Nationalist Manifesto sets the modern standard for arguing for nationalism for white nations.
Greg Johnson accomplishes this tour de force in an impressively concise manner.
The book must be read by everyone.
Now, that is a compelling endorsement indeed.
But before we get into the book itself and the contents of the book itself in any more depth, let's go back to the title.
A very provocative title, The White Nationalist Manifesto.
So white nationalists would be, I guess, Greg, your preferred nomenclature.
Now, I have said before and in the past that the controlled media uses white nationalists interchangeably with white supremacists, but of course, the way you've written this book is in such a way that if people give it a fair hearing, they're going to come over to your line of thinking, no doubt about it.
But do you think that the term white nationalist can be accepted by our broader community outside of those who would tune in to this program or read countercurrents?
Well, yeah, I mean, that is a problem.
It's a term that a lot of people use with abusive connotations, the term of abuse in the mainstream.
But it's an honest term.
I think that therefore we have to redeem that term and try and scrape away some of the mud that's been caked on it by the mainstream media.
The way I define white nationalism is very simple.
I say that white nationalists believe in the right of ethnic self-determination for all white peoples.
And beyond that, as an ethno-nationalist, I believe in that right for all peoples.
Any people that is large enough and has the will to have its own government, to have its own sovereignty, I think has a right to its sovereignty.
And to say that we have a right means that we don't have to exercise it.
There are some stateless peoples who are perfectly content maybe with their present situation.
But if there's a people that wants a state, that wants a homeland of its own so that it can better control its destiny and preserve itself through time, then I don't believe anybody in the world has the right to stand in their way.
So white nationalism is just a form of ethno-nationalism.
It's the view that every people has a right to self-determination.
Before I came on, I was listening to the ads and there was Michael Hill from the League of the South.
You know, an ethno-nationalist would say that the southern people in America have a right to self-determination if they elect to go their own way and have their own state.
So I think that this is the antithesis of the supremacist attitude because supremacism is the idea that we want to rule over other peoples.
I don't want to rule over other peoples.
I want other peoples to have as much autonomy as they can.
And I want different peoples to go their separate ways.
That's the ideal situation.
I don't believe in ideas like assimilationism, which is just sort of a cultural imperialism.
I want different peoples to have homelands where they feel comfortable and where their way of life and their particular genetic lines can flourish and reproduce themselves on into the future.
That's the purpose of a homeland.
Greg, this is Keith Alexander.
Let me just ask you, what does this have to do with identity politics?
And identity politics, we've always argued for on this program.
And we think that if white people aren't allowed to engage in identity politics, we're perpetually being put into the position of taking a knife to a gunfight.
This is the way of the left, and anti-white activity is rampant in America.
Well, hold on right there, Keith, and hold on right there, Greg.
Greg Johnson, our guest for the entire hour.
We're talking about his book, The White Nationalist Manifesto.
Find out more at counter-currents.com.
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All right, folks, our featured guest for the evening tonight, Greg Johnson, editor of Countercurrents, countercurrents.com.
That's counter-currents.com.
His new book, The White Nationalist Manifesto, that is what has brought him back to the program this evening.
And it has been widely praised.
And we want you to learn more about it and get a copy of it for yourself.
We're going to be spending the rest of the hour learning more about it.
But Keith is only with us.
My co-host Keith Alexander, only with us for one more segment.
I wanted to give him a couple of questions with Greg, and you were asking one just before that last break, Keith.
Well, let me just put it this way.
Every other racial and ethnic group besides whites are not only permitted but encouraged to have a sense of racial solidarity that expresses itself politically.
And my understanding is all you're claiming for us is equal treatment with all other groups.
Is that a fair assessment or not?
Yeah, well, in the book, I have a chapter called In the Short Run.
And in there, I make the argument that identity politics is absolutely necessary for white people because the way that politics is played in America today, it's like playing poker.
All the different groups have their stack of chips and a place at the table, but all the other groups in society get to play a wild card, namely the race card, that white people don't.
We can't advocate explicitly for our interests.
That's considered a taboo.
But every other group can pursue their interests.
And if you play poker under those rules, no matter how many chips you had at the start, the more hands you play, the more you're going to lose.
And you're going to lose everything eventually.
And that's really the trajectory that white Americans are on until we overthrow this basic, this taboo against white identity politics and start taking our own side in ethnic conflicts.
And most of politics today is ethnic conflict.
Whites are supposed to be blind to that.
We're supposed to pretend, really, that we're only interested in the interests of all mankind.
We can't just take our own side for once.
And that's how we're losing our culture.
It's how we're losing our political power.
It's how America is slipping away from us before our very eyes.
and it's how European societies are basically melting away.
Well, you know, equal outcome.
Equal rights has been abandoned by the left now.
That's yesterday's news.
That's passe.
They believe that people they identify as oppressed groups have more rights than their putative oppressors, which are always white people.
So we've got to reclaim equal rights.
Is that part of your message?
Reclaim equal rights.
Or let's put it this way.
There are two ways you could understand that claim about equal rights.
One is to go back to a system where everyone pretends like identity politics is off the table and it's all just we're all equal or we're all individuals or whatever.
That is.
The left will never consent to that.
They will never consent to that.
But conservatives pretend that that's what they can do.
They can take us back to those days before identity politics.
The only way forward, though, is for everyone, whites included, to get involved in identity politics.
We have to do it as a matter of self-defense.
If we don't, we lose.
We've taken a knife to a gunfight, as I said earlier.
Yeah, exactly.
We've taken a knife to a gunfight, and we're going to get shot.
So, yeah, it's not a winning thing.
And if you look at the trajectory of white society, it's on the decline in America, in the culture, in demographics, and in political power.
We are declining.
The left is openly gloating about how white demographic decline is going to give them a permanent block on power.
The only people who don't get this and don't act like it's a thing are the mainstream Republicans.
They're going to try and pretend to the very end that this isn't happening.
And they're going to lose, though.
They're going to lose.
And really, I look at Donald Trump as the beginning stirrings of white identity politics.
White people voted for him overwhelmingly because we were afraid of white demographic displacement, and we were hoping he would build a wall and deport people and put limits on our demographic decline.
Well, I was reading an article in Emprimus, which is that publication that is sent out by Hillsdale College by somebody named Matthew Contadetti, some type of neocon, talking about the pitfalls of identity politics.
But as you said, everyone else is doing it.
And if we don't do it, then we're going to be at a competitive disadvantage.
And we are at a competitive disadvantage because we're waning and other groups are waxing right now.
Their influence on the culture and in politics is growing.
Ours is declining.
And we better wake up and smell the coffee.
Exactly.
Yeah, and the neocons are starting to get worried.
And they have tasked some of their brighter people to deal with white identity politics.
Francis Fukuyama's latest book, Identity, really was written.
He says it in the first line.
This book was written because Donald Trump was elected.
A lot of these people are worried about white identity politics rising.
They want to head it off.
And one of the tactics that they discuss is trying to get the left to back off a bit on identity politics because they realize that left-wing identity politics is driving right-wing identity politics or non-white identity politics is driving white identity politics.
That's really the most important issue.
It's not left or white.
It's white or non-white.
Yeah, the left basically, they're not going to back off at all.
This is the fundamental message of progressivism now, which is identity politics for me, but not for thee.
Right.
Yeah.
The neocons are kind of delusional.
Why would the left back off on a winning strategy?
It just doesn't make any sense.
And that means that the left is going to continue putting their foot on the accelerator and pushing anti-white identity politics.
And that means that white identity politics will continue to rise.
And here's the white pill, as we like to say, the encouraging bit of news.
Even if they completely deplatform us and prevent us from speaking and addressing the public, it's still going to rise.
White identity politics is still going to rise because it's not rising because I've written a book called The White Nationalist Manifesto.
It's rising because of the problems created by multiculturalism itself.
And as long as they keep doubling down on anti-white identity politics and multiculturalism, more white people are going to come to our side.
Even if all of us are silenced, de-platformed, whatever.
This is a problem that's not going to go away.
Censorship is not going to stop us.
I agree with you entirely, Greg.
And I've always been a happy warrior.
I've always been a man who has viewed the cup or the glass as half full.
I think that whites are going to persevere, and we are going to prevail, and we are going to be victorious ultimately.
In other parts of the Western world and the white world, we have already seen stirrings far greater than what we've experienced here in America.
America is almost an outlier when compared to Eastern Europe and other places.
The difference is we haven't suffered enough yet in America, and we may have to suffer a little bit more before the path is revealed.
I'm sure the left will see that we do.
I'm sure that there's people there ready to administer our lashings.
There's no doubt about that.
But the place where we have suffered.
We're going to be partying like we're in the minority.
And that's one of the things that's most educational is just all the unseemly gloating.
They're already planning our funeral and crowing about it.
And people are noticing that.
Well, Tim Wise's comment after the 2012 election.
Remember that?
Where he said, you know, drink up.
You know.
Yeah.
Yeah, TikTok.
Yeah, we all remember the TikTok.
Yeah, right.
So, Keith, I want to thank you for your contributions.
I know you have to leave after this segment, but I wanted to give you a little run there with Greg.
I will be back after this break.
Unlike a lot of the ubiquitous live streams that we have on YouTube, folks, you got to remember this is commercial AM Talk Radio, so we have these hard network and local breaks that we've got to take, but we're going to be back with you in three minutes' time.
Still, a half hour to come with Greg Johnson, editor of Countercurrents, counter-currents.com.
Get his book, The White Nationalist Manifesto.
That's brought him back to our show this night.
We're thankful for that.
We'll be right back.
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As we transition into the second half of our interview with Greg Johnson of Countercurrents, talking about his book, The White Nationalist Manifesto, I want to thank Keith Alexander for his service tonight.
Keith has left the building.
He'll be back with us next week, of course.
I want to read now a little bit more information on the manifesto.
And here it is.
A specter is haunting the world, the specter of white nationalism.
Trump, Brexit, Le Pen, Orban, Salvini, white identity politics is on the rise, even though the entire political establishment, left and right, is committed to globalism.
Populist nationalism is sweeping Europe and put Donald Trump in the White House.
In the White Nationalist Manifesto, Greg Johnson defends the most radical form of white identity politics, white nationalism, which upholds the right of all white peoples to self-determination.
Multiculturalism is a social experiment imposed by international elites on unwilling nations.
That experiment has failed.
Diversity is not a source of strength, but of alienation, hatred, and violence.
But even those problems pale before the fact that the white race in all its historical homelands is on the road to biological extinction unless there is radical political change.
White nationalists aim to end multiculturalism, restore unified national cultures, reverse non-white immigration and white demographic decline, and affirm the right of all peoples to self-determination in racially and ethnically homogenous homelands.
Written with great simplicity and clarity, as Greg mentioned before, the White Nationalist Manifesto offers a compelling moral case, keyword, moral case for white nationalism, presenting it as a logical extension of endangered species conservation policies to the human realm.
The manifesto also clarifies fundamental white nationalist ideas, patiently refutes common objections, outlines broad policy objectives, and maps a path to power.
The White Nationalist Manifesto is required reading for anyone who wants to understand both the intellectual principles and ultimate aims of the rising resistance to globalism, multiculturalism, and liberal democracy.
Greg, this goes back to what you said in the first segment.
You wrote this as a sort of an introductory read to people that we need to join the ranks of, well, what would you call it?
White nationalism, racial realism.
You can call it what you want, but I think everybody gets the picture.
You wrote it that way.
I use the word epic because even though it is a fast-paced read, it covers with a lot of clarity the fundamentals of everything that we are advocating for, both here on the radio and you with countercurrents.
And of course, that's what we're here to talk about.
So continue on there.
What would you say is something about the book that we've yet to cover that you would like the audience to know?
Well, I'm flattered with your kind words about it, for one thing.
The reason I wrote this book is because I feel like somebody had to write it.
It was a book that needs to be written.
There's been so much talk, especially since 2014, about our sorts of issues.
There's been a rising awareness of white identity politics and a sense that white people are threatened in all of our homelands.
In the United States, Black Lives Matter, the Michael Brown case before that, Trayvon Martin, that had a lot of people thinking.
And then the migrant crisis of Europe got a lot of people thinking.
People that I had known all my life who had never uttered politically incorrect thought were suddenly saying, oh, this is terrible.
It'll destroy Europe.
People were frightened.
And there was a tremendous growth starting in the fall of 2014 in the traffic at Countercurrents and at a lot of other websites.
And in 2015, when Trump announced a lot of our people got behind him, we had a really glorious couple of years.
The alt-right, white nationalism, white identity politics was a big thing.
It was being discussed very broadly.
And I thought, you know, there needs to be one little go-to book that anybody can read to get a basic introduction to this.
But I didn't want it to be just a dry introduction or, you know, a non-committal introduction.
I wanted people to read this and come away feeling, yes, they need to get on board.
So it's written with a lot of passion, but it's out there.
And I'm hoping that, you know, 20 or 30 or 40 years from now, it'll still be in print and it'll still be the first place that people go.
There are all these little books that come out from, say, Oxford University Press.
They're very short introductions to populism or they're whole like book cases full of these little thin volumes.
When I was an undergraduate, I was getting these books, these little introductory volumes, Past Masters, and other series like that, just to get my feet wet in a topic.
And I consciously modeled this manifesto after those kinds of books, as well as looking at historical political manifestos that had some impact on the world.
Well, it's needless to say, we need introductory pieces.
Now, I know it probably was somewhat difficult for you to write an introductory piece, being the learned scholar that you are, but you wrote something that can be digested by very academically savvy individuals, but also it could serve as an introductory piece to the folks.
Look, it can't just be the echo chamber.
Need to increase our ranks, and we need to reach out to people who aren't currently readers of countercurrents or listeners to this program or supporters of American Renaissance or whatever.
We need more people on board in a very explicit way.
And so, this book can service all aspects of your evolution, whether you're just getting started.
It's something that won't scare you away.
I know, as I say often on this program and on other interviews that I give, that talking about Kevin McDonald's theory on pathological altruism, whites have this need that other races don't have to have social acceptance.
So, everybody needs food, water, and shelter, but whites have that one additional fundamental need, and that's for social acceptance.
And so, this you can give to your normie friend, but you can also give to somebody who's already begun their intellectual journey.
And it will, one of our best writers, Jeff Costello, wrote a piece on how to survive Thanksgiving as a white nationalist.
And I reread that recently.
A lot of our folks go home for the holidays and they get in these heated political discussions with family and friends.
And it's kind of burdensome for a lot of us.
One of the things that I was thinking of when I wrote this book is this, I wanted to create a book that could be a resource for people who have difficulty explaining this to their families.
This is a book that you can give your mother, and she's not going to think you're some kind of insane monster.
In fact, one of the ways that I wrote this was to basically establish that, you know, look, we're sensible, moral people.
And in fact, our positions on these matters are the only viable alternative to hatred, violence, bloodshed, and ultimately, if nothing is done, racial extinction.
We're the ones on the sides of the angels here.
And we have the moral high ground, and we need to act like it.
Well, that's key, Greg.
That's key.
That goes back to what I just read a moment ago, and it needs to be reiterated.
This is the moral high ground.
I know whites crave to have that morality about them, but what is morality?
What is love if not loving your own family a little bit more than you love others?
It doesn't mean that you want hardships or mistreatment of other people's, but you're not a man, you're not a father, you're not a husband, you're not anything if you don't put your children and your extended family first.
That's just the way I see it.
So, this is a book that can go to everyone.
Now, we're coming up on a break, so we're going to keep this caller beyond the break if he's still there.
He's been waiting very patiently for about 15 minutes now, and I regret that.
But caller from Arkansas with a question and a comment for Greg Johnson about the white nationalist manifesto.
Let's see if we can get it in before the break, and we'll carry you over, sir.
Take it away.
Okay, basically, I have a suggestion, and one of the things that you haven't thought about is the issue of overpopulation.
The carrying capacity of the United States was estimated in 1920 by two scientists named Pearl and Reed, and that's basically what the title of their article.
And they proved that there's only enough resources in the United States for 191 million people.
You need to pick up on that idea because when you get right down to it, immigration is a crime because immigration is pollution.
Now, let me talk to you for a second or two about the water supply.
In California, right now, you are, it's against the law to wash your clothes and take a shower on the same day.
You can't.
Where I live in Arkansas, our water is always contaminated.
We're always having boiled water notices in the paper and on the radio.
We're being told not to throw out our prescriptions because it's contaminating the land water.
Now, another thing that's really scary, the reason we have so many welcomes here is because you want me to wait?
Well, you hear it as well as I do.
We do have the music, so that means a commercial break.
We have one more separate with Greg Johnson.
So what we're going to do when we come back, we're going to let this caller conclude his point and question, Greg's response, more contact information about the book, and a few more things about contemporary politics.
Stay tuned.
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The press has created a rigged system.
They even want to try and rig the election.
Well, I tell you what, it helps in Ohio that we got Democrats in charge of the machines.
And poisoned the mind of so many of our voters.
At the polling booth, where so many cities are corrupt and voter fraud is all too common.
And then they say, oh, there's no voter fraud in our country.
I come from Chicago.
So I want to be honest.
It's not as if it's just Republicans who have monkeyed around with elections in the past.
Sometimes Democrats have to.
You know, whenever people are in power, they have this tendency to try to tilt things in their direction.
There's no voter fraud.
You start whining before the game's even over.
Whenever things are going badly for you and you lose, you start blaming somebody else, then you don't have what it takes to be in this job.
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It goes by far too quickly.
We have but one segment remaining with Greg Johnson.
I want to ask our caller from Arkansas to quickly conclude his point and his question for the author of the White Nationalist Manifesto.
And then after that, we're going to get the contact information for how you can buy the book.
And we highly encourage everyone to do just that.
And then we're going to talk with Greg a little bit more before the time runs out this segment about contemporary issues and current items in the news.
All that's still to come.
Go call her from Arkansas.
Okay, it's important to understand that we have huge Muslim populations here because there's no fresh water for them to drink in the Arab nations.
And the people in the Arab nations tried to establish desalination plants and the plants were clogged by red algae.
Now you're going to say, well, that's over there and it's not here.
It is here.
Both shores of Florida, the East Coast and the West Coast, are completely contaminated by poisonous red algae, and it's going to be the entire coastal area of the United States.
So we need to restore all of our minority populations to their homelands.
And when our soil and our air cleans up, then we can start selling them fresh water out of the Great Lakes.
And we will be in the world.
Look, I completely agree.
I think that we need to weaponize environmental concerns to help us.
Because honestly, one of the things that's driving pollution and other urban congestion and things like that, rising housing prices, a lot of negative problems in the United States, especially a lot of environmental problems are being driven by immigration.
So this is why years ago, the Sierra Club actually spoke out against immigration until they were basically bought off by a major Jewish donor who didn't want them to talk about that anymore.
So yeah, I completely agree.
My whole outlook in the manifesto is an outlook based on population biology.
I take a biological approach to this.
I look at myself as somebody in the tradition of Madison Grant, who was not only an advocate for white preservationism in America, but also for the bison and wilderness and other kinds of wildlife that were being endangered.
So I want the United States to be a great national park for white Americans.
And I want Hungary to be a great wildlife preserve for the Hungarians and so forth.
So that's how I look at this ethno-nationalist argument that I create.
So yes, we can weaponize environmentalism in our favor.
And I think it's a very sound tactic.
Well, Greg, as you said.
All right.
We've got to move on, but thank you for the call from Arkansas.
I really appreciate it.
Great points and a great response from Greg.
But before we run out of time, I want to be sure to get to this.
Greg, you mentioned that the book was something that you could give to your mother, who is presumably uninitiated, or as old salts as we are, or listeners to this program may be.
They could buy it as well and glean a lot of interesting information from it.
Let's go to how they can get it.
Plug it specifically, and then I want to talk to you.
I want to talk to you with the time remaining.
There's not very much of it, about contemporary politics and where we stand as a race and as a community in the age of Trump and in the current year.
Go, Greg.
Yeah, okay.
You can buy it from my website, which is counter-currents.com.
You can buy it from amazon.com.
You can buy it from all the Amazon platforms in Europe, amazon.de, co.uk, Amazon in France, Amazon in Canada.
Barnes ⁇ Noble carries it in their online store, I believe.
So you can pretty much get it through all the major online booksellers and direct from the publisher account of her.
And I am going to be going around to various conferences in the new year.
And so I might catch you at American Renaissance next May.
I'll be signing and selling copies there if everything goes according to plan.
Yeah, if the state of Tennessee doesn't appeal that rule.
That ruling is a good question.
Yeah, of course we ran into each other there last year, Greg.
And that was quite pleasant.
And yeah, and you've been all over the world, in fact.
You've been in Europe.
You've been abroad, which is why it took us a month between our initial exchange and tonight to get you back on because you're a busy man and you're promoting this book and we want people to buy it.
Now, Greg, I would ask you to get the time remaining listening.
Go ahead.
No, no, no, go ahead.
Go ahead.
Tell the folks where you've been.
I know, but I want them to be.
Yeah, I gave talks recently in Denmark, in the Netherlands, in Germany.
And then I've also in Ukraine.
I also have visited Hungary and I visited Poland.
I was there for their big 100th anniversary of Independence March when more than 200,000 Polish patriots carried flags through the streets.
And that was a profound experience.
That was very, very inspiring.
So yeah, I've been in Europe and I'm going to be doing the conference circuit, such as it is in the United States, too.
So, you know, I'll be around.
But if in the meantime, the best way to get the book is just to go online to counter-currents.com or amazon.com.
Buy the book, folks, with the endorsement of yours truly, James Edwards.
Buy the book and support the author, Greg Johnson, counter-currents.com or dash, if you will.
But that's how you spell the URL, and we want you to go there.
Now, Greg, with the time remaining, we have about five minutes left.
There seems to be, I don't want to say a herd-like mentality, although one of our very loyal listeners has referred to it as such, but sort of a mass exodus of support from the Trump administration by those in the alt-right.
How would you assess the current state of our people, and that is the white race, in the age of Trump?
Are we better or worse off than we were before he descended that golden escalator?
And is, this is a separate question, but somewhat related.
Are the apparent gains that we are seeing in Eastern Europe legit?
Yeah, there are a lot of gains going on in Europe, and they are legit.
I think that Europe is far more ethnocentric and far more healthy, and the demographics are far better in any European country than they are in the United States.
We have a much greater task ahead of us.
Whites are maybe 60% of the population in the United States.
And even after everything that we've been through and all that we know, only about 15% of Americans think that immigration is the number one political threat to the country.
That's amazing.
In England, half the voters think that immigration is the number one problem.
So we've got a bigger problem, but Trump is a great first step.
And I was hoping that in his first two years, he would have done a lot more to deal with voter fraud and also with building that wall, which is the most important thing.
Because if we don't turn around the demographic problems in America, there's not going to be another Trump presidency.
He got in by a razor-thin margin, and four years of uninterrupted demographic decline might be enough to keep him out of office.
And then America is in a terrible situation.
So I'm very optimistic for Europe.
I'm less optimistic for America.
I do think that we've got a chance, though, in America.
But it was a long shot when he got elected in 2016, and it's getting to be a longer shot with each passing year.
And I'm afraid that he has not gotten on the most important issues.
He's allowed himself to be distracted by things like foreign policy stuff, moving the embassy, and all that nonsense.
He needs to focus laser-like on stopping the demographic decline of whites.
And the other thing he needs to focus on is he needs to push legislation to regulate the social media like public utilities.
And beyond that, I would like to see a law against politically correct terms of service and employment throughout the entire economy.
If we got legislation like that, we would win.
And even if we don't get legislation like that, though, we're still, I think, in the long run, going to make a huge amount of progress, certainly in Europe.
But I still am cautiously optimistic in the United States.
That might not survive as a 50-state union, but I think that the white race in North America will have a fighting chance and that we will survive.
I think that the tide is turning ideologically in our favor.
I agree with you, Greg, and that is a fantastic answer.
And I think that covers exactly what I wanted to hear from you, which is, of course, your opinion.
And it could have been concurrent or different than mine.
But so you would say overall, even though a lot of the luster has worn off of the Trump phenomenon, you would say still, though, that you are, I guess, thankful this is Thanksgiving after all, Thanksgiving weekend.
You're thankful that he's in there and that ultimately it has moved the window to a better place for our people, whether or not he realizes all of his potential or not.
We're in a slightly better shape with him than we would have been with Jeb or Hillary or whomever.
Oh, oh, yes, definitely.
We're far better off with him.
I knew people who have this accelerationist idea that I had this one guy say, even after Trump won, he said, maybe it would have been better if Hillary won, because then people would be alarmed.
Yeah, and it's like, yeah, I mean, we have to get outside this mentality that we win by losing.
Ultimately, the only way we win is by winning.
But even Trump, I think Trump was far more of an accelerationist candidate than Hillary would have been because the left has gone completely nuts.
And that's been very instructive.
I agree with you 100%.
I know a lot of people are turning on Trump, and he certainly hasn't lived up to my expectations.
Candidate Trump has fallen short of President Trump, but I still have a slightly favorable opinion of him, and I hope for a lot more.