Oct. 20, 2018 - The Political Cesspool - James Edwards
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Our guest this evening, our featured guest, Paul Nalen.
And I'm going to read his bio.
And he is truly, I think, one of the most fascinating people that I've come to know and read about over the course of the past couple of years.
And we're just going to have an extended sit down for the entire hour tonight.
We're going to learn more about Paul, his background, his hopes, his dreams, and his vision here in the opening minutes of the show tonight.
But Paul Nalen, of course, is a Wisconsin business executive with over 30 years of experience in the manufacturing industry.
He got his start on the shop floor when he was 18 years old and worked his way up through middle management and into executive positions.
He's run business operations for Fortune 500 companies throughout North America, Europe, and Asia as an inventor.
Paul holds seven patents in the United States, more abroad, and has others pending.
Paul became known around the world in 2016 when he challenged Speaker of the House Paul Ryan in Wisconsin's first congressional district.
And as I said, Paul is going to tell you his story this hour.
Paul, welcome.
Hey, thanks for having me on, James.
Really glad to be with you.
Well, we're really glad to have you with us, and let's just get right into it.
For the benefit of folks who, I don't think there's really anybody who won't know who you are, but let's go back to the very beginning.
Let's go back to Paul Nalen, the businessman, before he became Paul Nalen, the worldwide known candidate for office.
Tell us about that success story.
That's the American dream right there.
Sure, it is.
In high school, I was a pretty good student.
Not great, but pretty good.
And I tried to get a Navy scholarship and I didn't get it.
And I had applied only to colleges who had Navy ROTC programs.
So my folks couldn't afford to send me to those schools.
And there was a factory.
I had moved from Ohio to Delaware the summer before my junior year high school.
There was a factory nearby.
And they said, well, if you hire on here, we'll pay for you to go to school at night.
I was on the get your engineering degree at night program while I was working as a maintenance mechanic and pulling overtime in production and just worked my way into the engineering department and through school at night and eventually ran several departments in that business and ran that business.
And then that factory was relocated to Florida and I helped move it there.
We were progressively bought by bigger and bigger corporations back in the 90s, as you recall, that was all going on.
And so I did some consulting work for two years.
One of my customers was Dover Corporation, Fortune 200 company.
I was there every month for a week or two and they hired me on full time and it got my two boys out of high school and into college.
And they so I moved to South Carolina, I lived in Augusta, Georgia, worked in South Carolina, got my MBA while I was there.
After I got my MBA, I hired on to a Fortune 500 and then I started moving all over the country and then all over the globe.
I lived in North Carolina, Florida, Wisconsin, London, England, spent a ton of time in Poland and Germany, was all over Europe really, moved back to the States to Texas, ran an oil business, oil machinery.
We built pump, built valves for oil pipeline.
And then they said, we want you to move to Michigan.
And I said, no, I don't think I want to move to Michigan.
And they said, why not?
I said, well, because I'm from Ohio.
Ohio and Michigan people don't like each other.
And they said, no, no, this is a really tough union and we think you'd be good there.
And so I, you know, I moved up there and we were turning things around there.
And I had an opportunity to hire on with a private equity group based out of Atlanta.
And so I hired on as division president there and I was there for a while and then had the opportunity to move back to Wisconsin.
So I did and went with another private equity.
These have all been highly engineered manufacturing companies.
We built things.
We built things that last a long time.
So moved to Wisconsin, was traveling a lot out of Wisconsin, and then we sold that business.
In fact, we were in the process of selling that business when a reporter figured out who it was that was going to wage the battle against Paul Ryan in 2016 and called me and said, you don't give us a comment within two hours.
We are going to basically put your name out there in the media.
And I had never been in the media before.
I was a manufacturing guy.
The only media that I ever had was if I invented something and the company put out a notice saying, hey, we got a new patent.
Neil and just patented something.
That was, or a new product design, something like that.
It was really odd.
So the reason and the reason I ran, so we ended up selling that business a couple weeks later, but it was very rocky.
We were right in the middle of the sale as everybody found out that I was going to run for Congress again, the Speaker of the House.
The reason I ran is I read an article that was an excerpt of a letter that Senator Jeff Sessions at the time, Senator Jeff Sessions, wrote about the Trans-Pacific Partnership.
I could not believe that my Congressman Paul Ryan was selling out the United States.
I totally believed in the guy.
I thought he was everything he said he was back here in the district.
I had met him.
You know, I had donated money to the cause here in the district.
And I had the keys to the local GOP office.
I passed out signs.
I was a guy.
I was a guy who volunteered in the background that didn't want any publicity, didn't want to be known for anything.
I didn't go to, you know, big dinners or anything like that.
I passed out signs.
I passed out shirts.
I donated my money and my time.
I called people when I was sitting in the airport to make sure they were going to go vote.
That's who I was.
And I was betrayed.
I was betrayed by my own congressman, and I said, you know what?
God has been very good to me.
I've made a lot of money and I'm going to run for Congress now.
Paul, hold on right there.
That is a perfect spot to push pause on this conversation as we take our first break of the evening.
This is really an incredible story.
And I'm going to tell you when we come back from the break why I asked Paul to start with the story of his life in the business world.
When we come back, we're just getting started.
We've got him for the whole hour.
Stay tuned.
Abby Johnson was once director of a Planned Parenthood clinic in Bryan, Texas.
After a moral crisis, she quit, and now she campaigns against what she once endorsed.
They implement abortion quotas in all of their clinics.
What do you mean, quotas?
You have to perform a certain number of abortions every month.
One of the reasons that I left...
Are they explicit about that?
Yes, it's in your budget, right there on the line item.
One of the reasons I left Planned Parenthood was because in a budget meeting, I was told to double that abortion quota.
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They are the largest single abortion provider in our country.
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Back with Paul Nalen right now.
I purposely wanted to start with Paul tonight, asking him about his success in the business world, in the corporate world, because when you think of the heads of corporate corporations, Fortune 500 companies, you think of these vapid, soulless, rootless individuals, sociopaths that have no real core convictions.
When's the last time you heard of a man who has been this successful in business who is at once both a Christian and pro-white?
Well, we've got the guy.
We've got the guy right here right now.
And I may have made mention of this, Paul, last week when you called in very briefly, that when you are in a movement such as ours that is currently not in power, any movement that is on the margins will attract one of two kinds of people.
It will either attract the very best, the people who are motivated by convictions, people who are the most brave, the most courageous, the most disciplined.
It will either attract those people, the very best of people, or it will attract the attention seekers.
It will attract the people with nothing to lose.
It will attract people who are not from the top dresser drawer.
So what led you to make the decision?
You had been very successful in business.
You could have certainly enjoyed the rest of your life counting the money made with what I'm sure has been a very lucrative career.
You could have just done that as so many people in your position have done in the past.
But you decided to go in full force and hold back nothing.
Was there a moment when the light bulb went off or was this a gradual step towards entering into the public arena?
A man of your stature?
Tell us that transition.
I think it was more a light bulb going off because it's one thing to find out what you believed to be true was not true.
And you made an honest mistake in your own mind, that inner monologue that people talk about.
Something just didn't make sense and you assumed something and you assumed wrong.
Well, that wasn't the case here.
I really felt betrayed by my congressman because, you know, he said he was for Wisconsin jobs.
He said he was for America.
He said he was for all these things, smaller government, blah, blah, blah.
And here he is whipping votes for this trade deal that's going to turn the United States of America into the United States of Asia.
And it was that betrayal that I had donated my time.
I didn't have a lot of time, extra time.
I'm running businesses.
We're moving factories around.
We're creating jobs and creating opportunities.
And I've seen jobs move to Mexico, move to China, move to other countries, and my friends lose their jobs.
I had a lot of buddies when I was going to college who worked for DuPont Company.
That was a big draw.
And DuPont had moved a lot of its operations offseas, overseas.
And so I really felt like, you know, I was born into an America that had a lot of opportunities.
And when NAFTA came along and they said, you know, you're going to hear this big sucking sound, that was true.
That really was true.
Ohio was really hard hit where I grew up with NAFTA, and as was a lot of the country.
And so I just could not, you know, I'm still designing equipment.
I'm still doing what I love.
I'm still able to apply my trade as an engineer and work on equipment designs.
Nobody's going to take that away from me.
The opportunity presented itself because I had been successful.
I had had that measure of success and I'd lived all over the globe.
So I had some greater, broader understanding of how the world works.
Europe is not the United States of Europe.
Okay.
It's always funny to me when they say, oh, Americans are racist.
But, you know, the Brits hate the Danes and the Danes hate the Germans and the Germans hate the Poles and everyone hates the French.
I mean, Europe is one of the most racist places there is.
And so I felt that strongly I had followed politics.
I'd followed policy, obviously running Fortune 500 businesses and all the inner workings of how that plays out against a government backdrop, understanding how to run a business and interact with the government at the same time, thinking, well, you know, if I'm doing this from the other side, maybe I can help create more jobs and actually do something.
And so, you know, as I got into it, it was all about that trade deal.
But then I had some women reach out to me from the Remembrance Project, Maria Espinoza and some others, and some of these moms who had tried to reach out to Paul Ryan because their children had died at the hands of illegal aliens in this country.
And Paul Ryan wouldn't see them in Washington.
He's like, oh, I'm a Wisconsin congressman.
I'm not your congressman.
You go take it up with your congressman.
Well, their congressman wasn't doing anything for them.
So they went to the speaker of the house and he wouldn't do anything for them.
So I said, sure, I'll be a spokesman for you.
So they came up here a couple of times and did a couple of events with me.
And then Trump picked them up.
And Maria's been on stage with Trump a number of times.
I've met President Trump.
I met him a few weeks before his election in 2016.
And I have to tell you, meeting that man one-on-one, I gained an immense amount of respect for him.
It was in a very small setting.
It was in a conference room in Houston.
And it was with the parents who had lost their children to illegal alien violence.
And there was probably a dozen sets of parents in there.
So there was less than 40 of us total.
Trump, Stephen Miller was there, just a couple of security guys, and it was all family.
And there were just like three of us who, my wife and I, and another guy who weren't family members.
And afterwards, you know, Trump was asking questions.
He stayed in there like a full 40, 45 minutes asking questions.
A little girl got up to give him a gift, and she burst into tears right in front of him.
And he, you know, stood up and he, you know, comforted her like a, you know, a dad would to a child.
And then somebody at the end said, you know, can I get my picture taken with you?
And he said, yeah, sure.
You can all get your picture taken.
And he was taking pictures with all of them.
And we waited till everybody went up.
Everybody had gone up.
My wife and I started walking up.
And Stephen Miller stepped out in front of me and he said, I don't think it's a good idea if you get your picture taken.
And I said, I get it, Stephen.
I would just like to tell the man thanks for what he's doing.
And he didn't have to do this.
I'd like him to sign my book.
And he goes, oh, yeah, that's no problem.
So I walked up and I put myself between him and the camera.
And I reached out my hand and I said, Mr. Trump, my name's Paul Neal.
And he goes, I know who you are.
Big smile on his face.
I know who you are.
He's pumping my hand.
He goes, you ran a great race up there in Wisconsin.
You ran a great race.
I'm looking around for my wife.
I'm like, and this is my wife.
He's grabbing, he's shaking her hand, shaking her arm off, right?
And, you know, so we had a really nice conversation.
I handed him Aunt Coulter's book in Trump Lee Trust.
And I said, well, you sign my book.
He goes, oh, yeah.
He looks down and he says, you'd like this book.
And he opens it up to sign it.
And I said, nope.
And he looks at me and I said, I love it.
And he starts to laugh.
And he said, he's not signing the book.
He goes, you ought to think about, you ought to think about running again, maybe for a different position.
He goes, not that one.
And I said, no, sir.
I want that one.
And he looked up at me and he smiled and he grinned and he shook his head and he said, Good.
Good for you.
And so we talked a little bit more.
And then we left.
As I'm walking out the door, I'm walking out of the conference room.
I mean, it's a small conference room.
He leaned over the table and hollers at the top of his lungs, Paul.
He gives me the big thumbs up.
I'm like, that guy, I mean, I'd crawl across broken glass for him now, you know?
What a story.
I don't know if that's been mentioned publicly.
I certainly haven't read it anywhere.
Thank you for sharing that with us.
Hang on one second.
We're going to take another break.
We're going to pick it up right there.
Fantastic story.
We'll be right back.
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We'll do it next segment, Sam, no problem.
Thank you again, Paul, for sharing that story.
I think that's some behind-the-scenes stuff that makes for great radio.
And it actually leads me into the next question I was going to have for you anyway, which was, of course, you became a household name during your campaign against Paul Ryan.
We've learned a little bit about why you ran that campaign.
But when you initially announced, and for those first few months, you had garnered a pretty impressive coalition.
I know Ann Coulter, Steve Bannon, Breitbart, and some other heavy hitters were very much behind you.
But it seemed as though the more truth you told, the more tepid some of these people became.
And if I hang my hat on one virtue, that virtue is loyalty.
And I am loyal to a brother through thick and thin, especially if he's being frank and candid as you were.
What was that experience like for you to see all of these people run like scalded dogs when you said what they know, what they have to know is true, when you were being so outspokenly honest about these sensitive issues?
And you saw these mainstream commentators and politicians run.
To me, it was so disappointing.
I watched this from afar, having not been yet in touch with you at that point.
It's certainly par for the course.
It's to be expected, but we must do better than that going forward if we're ever going to have ultimate success.
It was disappointing, I have to tell you.
You know, you don't publicly show that when, Particularly, somebody like Steve Bannon.
I met Bannon prior to announcing I was going to run because I went to DC to meet with people to see, you know, can I build a coalition?
Can I build a network of people?
I've built a great network and business.
Can I build a network of people to run?
I'm running against the speaker of the house.
It wasn't like I was running against some schlunk in, you know, Omaha, Nebraska.
You know, it was, I was running against the real deal here.
So the top elected Republican in the nation and the second in line to the presidency.
So, so Bannon and I hit it off really well.
At the time, Bannon was still supporting Ted Cruz.
He wasn't supporting Trump.
And so I, when after, after some time, I started noticing that the attacks that were coming at me had a certain tribal flavor to them.
They had a certain, there was a certain small group of rootless internationalists, globalists who were primarily the ones attacking me.
And so I didn't get it.
I didn't understand it.
I mean, but I started noticing it.
And, you know, I'm an engineer.
And so I make spreadsheets.
I log things in.
And if you all recall, I was on Twitter at the time.
I had about 100,000 people follow me on Twitter.
And I was working, raising money for Judge Moore down in Alabama.
I really wanted to see when I raised, I'd raised over half a million dollars for him between his primary and his final race.
And I'd spoken down there at his rallies.
And I showed up at one of the rallies.
And Bannon said to me, Did you tell somebody to eat a bullet?
And I said, look, this guy has been attacking me for over a year.
And he said, hang on a minute.
Paul, hang on one minute.
And I hate to interrupt, but didn't Eric Trump say that he wished somebody would put a bullet in David Duke's head?
Oh, really?
I mean, there was that.
But that did happen right before the election, but that's an aside.
I'm just saying.
So, I mean, people speak with rhetorical hyperbole.
Sure, right.
I mean, telling somebody to say, why don't you eat a bullet is really to me no different than saying, why don't you take a long walk off a short bridge, right?
I'm not suggesting somebody go drown themselves.
I'm not suggesting that somebody put a bullet in their own head.
The guy, and it was, you had to take it in context.
So the guy had said, Nealon's brain is shrunk like a pee.
Maybe he needs to eat something.
And this guy had been picking at me.
And it was in the midst of a conversation with two people about gun control.
He had nothing to do with it, but it was, again, a Jewish guy out of New York City who was pushing my buttons.
And I'd had it with him.
And I told him to eat a bullet.
So I said, yeah, and here's why.
And so Bannon said, shrug it off.
Well, then a couple of days later, I had been on a podcast a few weeks earlier on TRS.
And so Bannon's, Fannin's secretary said to me, Hey, were you on some white supremacist station?
And I said, What are you talking about?
And she and I said, I said, Those are Trump supporters.
I said, I go, I said, why weren't you calling me when I was going on the very furthest leftist station, bunch of communists up in Madison, Wisconsin?
I was on their radio station.
You don't have a problem with me being on their radio station?
You've got a problem with me being on a radio station that is a bunch of race realists.
And so that was when Bannon jumped ship.
And around that same time, it was December 14th, I released a proposal called Shall Not Censor.
And it basically said that your freedom of speech, your legal speech, as it's been defined by the Constitution, and two centuries of legal arguments and case law, settled case law, would be protected on Facebook, Twitter, YouTube, Google, that type of thing.
And so immediately I was attacked the next day by GoFigure, a Jewish guy out of Chicago who works for a free speech group, right, called FIRE.
It's such a sham.
So he starts coming at me about, I said, I just finished my 18th public town hall in Wisconsin.
And he wrote on Twitter, yeah, but only for you white people and none of you Jews either.
He wrote that.
And so I knew he was coming at me from a Jewish attack vector.
And I said, why would you say, why would you attack white people?
You know, to kind of get him off balance a little bit.
And he said, why would I attack white people?
I'm white.
Guy's name's Cohen.
Okay.
So I said, my district is predominantly white.
Why would you attack white people?
And he said he was white.
Well, then all of people on Twitter start attacking him saying, you're a Jew.
Your name's Cohen.
And he goes, oh, but none of these white supremacists, so let me for my name won't let me forget I'm a Jew.
And I said, are you trying to start a race war with me?
What are you doing?
Well, the next morning, I woke up to five articles out of Israel, the Times of Israel, the forward.
I mean, just all of these articles attacking me as an anti-Semite.
Now, I didn't go looking for this argument with these guys, but I certainly wasn't going to back down to it either.
So that is where the attacks went just vertical.
I mean, the number of attacks on me were just astronomical.
So after about 30, 40 days of this, I went into my Twitter verified notifications and I made a spreadsheet of all the people who had attacked me on Twitter.
And there were over 80 people, 81 people, who attacked me on Twitter.
And 74 of them were Jewish, ethnically Jewish.
So I published that list.
I published their name, their Twitter handle, and whether they were Jewish or not Jewish.
And everybody's head exploded.
They said, look, Nealon is Hitler because he's publishing lists of Jews.
I said, no, I published lists of everybody.
And I'm showing that 92% of the attacks on me are coming from Jews.
That is not a coincidence.
Okay.
And we ought to have a conversation about this.
So the attacks just kept coming, and I kept not backing down.
And eventually I got bounced from Twitter.
And, you know, everybody wants to say I got bounced from Twitter because I posted a picture of Prince Harry and his fiancé at the time.
I remember that one.
Cheddarman picture over it.
Yeah, with the Cheddarman picture over it.
And that Cheddarman was a hoax, right?
That never really happened.
They didn't find 10,000-year-old bones and say, oh, look, these bones were from a brown person.
You white people, this isn't your land.
That's what they were trying to do.
We don't belong anywhere.
We don't belong in Europe.
We're not Americans.
We're not Africans.
Yeah.
We really just came from nowhere.
Yeah, Mexico for Mexicans, China for Chinese, Japan for the Japanese, but America for everybody.
Israel for the Jews.
Europe for everybody.
And so it's it's just it's hypocrisy and I've called it out.
Well at the same time I made that tweet I was also tweeting about the fact that the porn industry The porn industry is largely run by Jews and I was tweeting out clips Hold on right there the music's about to start It's so it's funny.
I made that I made that observation 12 years ago and the SBLC still attaches that to my my bio on their website.
We got to take a break.
I could go three hours with this guy.
I feel as though the interview, we haven't even scratched the surface with Paul Nalen and yet we only have one segment left.
But we're going to get to it in about three minutes.
Stay tuned.
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Getting the kids to school, cleaning the house, doing the laundry.
It seems that the work routine as a stay-at-home mom is never ending.
And even though I'm a prime grocery shopper in our family of four, I simply don't have time to scrutinize all the labels on the countless food products I buy.
Oh, sure, I've noticed all the latest certification seals, organic, non-GMO, gluten-free.
It definitely seems to be the latest craze.
But it was only recently that kosher certification seals caught my attention.
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I also noticed a question mark at the end of the app name.
And that makes great sense as there's far more questions regarding this industry than answers.
In fact, the developers refer to this as the kosher question.
Sure.
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Welcome back.
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Well, I guess we're kicking off the anniversary music a week early, but next week we've got a big 14th year anniversary show coming up.
We're going to look back.
We're going to remember.
We're going to reminisce.
We're going to have a good time.
It's going to be a fun, festive show next week, but it's not going to top this one.
I tell you again, I'll say it again.
We could go three hours.
I don't say this with every guest.
We could go three hours with Paul Nalen, no problem.
We've had him for 45 minutes already, and it just feels as though we're just beginning to get started.
It's just a riveting guy.
What a story.
And it's a story that I can relate to.
Having been a part of this for so many years, having been attacked incessantly for so many years.
And, of course, in 2016, Paul's year, the year of Paul, when we had interviewed Donald Trump Jr., and that stayed as a fixture in the press for really the entire campaign.
They tried to act as though we were intimate with the Trumps when it was just an interview that their publicists had arranged.
But nevertheless, I know what the media is about.
I know who's in control of the media.
Everything we're talking about here is absolutely true and verifiable.
And it needs to be discussed.
And it needs to be, now I agree with the Bible.
Only a fool speaks his whole mind.
You have to be tactful.
But at the same time, all of this nonsense that these Republicans do, these views have no place in the Republican Party.
Who do you think your base is?
It's like these churches now.
And of course, my church was recently expelled from its convention for having harbored me.
Who do you think actually sits in the pews?
These people agree with what we're saying, with what we have said for all of these years.
Who do you think goes and pulls the lever in rural middle America for the Republican Party?
Who do you think goes to these churches?
It's our people.
And fundamentally, these people agree with us.
And I think things will turn around.
We've seen it.
I bring up this example all the time.
Who would have thought that it would have turned around in Eastern Europe who were under the oppression of Bolshevism and communism for so long?
And now they are leading the renaissance of the West with healthy pro-Christian, pro-white governments.
It's incredible.
And what can happen there can happen here too.
But it's going to take men like Paul Nalen.
It's going to take men that will actually risk a little bit of discomfort, that will risk being called a name.
And those are the men that I can relate to.
That's the kind of man I am.
And so we're here with Paul Nalen now.
What a story.
Paul, you've got to come back as soon as possible.
We've got to do another one of these because as I said, this time is passing far too quickly.
I would ask you, though, we've talked a little bit about your experience in business, a little bit, of course, about your campaign.
Again, just cursory reviews, if even that.
But what's next for Paul Nalen?
What's the vision?
What are you doing now?
Have you suffered in your business relationships as a result of your honesty?
What's going on?
Well, it's suffered in my business relationships.
I would say no because there's so much business out there.
You know, there may be some friendships that were lost along the way, but there were many more made, many more made.
So, and look, I'm not on my path.
This isn't my path.
This is God's path.
And if I'm doing something wrong and I'm praying about it and I'm figuring out, hey, I'm on the wrong path.
I got to get on the right path here.
You know, I don't post anything to Facebook that I don't check out firsthand.
I make sure anything that I research, I had heard all these terrible things.
I didn't even know what the Talmud was.
I heard all these terrible things being written in the Talmud.
What is the Talmud?
Well, that's the writing down of the Jewish oral tradition.
Well, I didn't know anything about that.
Well, they talk about it in the New Testament, right?
Christ talks about the Jews following the laws of man instead of the laws of God.
Jesus talks about it.
Well, I didn't know what it was.
And so I purchased all 20-some volumes of the Talmud, the uncensored Sansino Babylonian Talmud.
I've got it here.
And I've read some of it, and it's despicable.
It's no wonder that the Nazis, the books the Nazis were burning, they were Talmuds.
They were pornography.
They weren't burning math and science books, people out of their mind.
They were burning books that were absolutely tearing their culture apart, tearing their nation apart.
And this book, honestly, it ought to be burned.
It is horrific what they have written about Jesus Christ and about the followers of Christ in this book and what they write about the Gentiles.
So I am a firm believer in the truth.
And wherever the truth takes you, you ought to pursue it.
And you're right.
You have to be tactful.
You have to know your audience.
And look, I didn't know about a lot of this stuff several years ago.
I grew up in the church, was confirmed in the church.
I was an acolyte as a kid, lit the candles at church.
And so, but I'm, you know, as I gain in age, I hopefully gain in wisdom.
And, you know, I get to learn my Bible more.
I go to Bible study classes so that I fully understand what the word is and how I should live my life.
And I felt like I've been called in a direction to open people's eyes up to things.
And, you know, will I ever run for office again?
I'm not sure.
I'm not sure.
But I do know, I do know this.
I will not stand idly by while little white kids are told they have white privilege and they need to feel bad about that because as a little white kid myself, whose folks got divorced when I was 10 years old and my brother was seven and my sister was one, we didn't have any white privilege.
We had to work hard and we did work hard and we've all been very successful.
And by, you know, by the grace of God, we have had hardships in our life and we've had good things in our life.
And so I want to make sure that other little white kids have that opportunity that I had as a little white kid and aren't made to feel inferior to anyone because we are not inferior to anyone.
And they should feel proud of what their forefathers created in this world, the civilizations that we've created and the good that we've done, the good that Christianity has done.
So I won't back down to that.
That's God's word.
And I'd love to come back on and talk to you more.
I love your show.
I love what you stand for.
I told you I saw you on a podcast the other day, maybe two weeks ago, and I was gobsmacked.
I was like, man, this guy is nailing it.
Wow.
And I just couldn't wait to come on your show.
And, you know, I've been on with Dr. Duke.
I'm really disappointed to hear that Donald Trump Jr. said that about Dr. It wasn't Trump Jr.
It was Eric Trump.
And it was right before the election.
In fact, the owner of our network, who also moonlights our producer tonight, is a great guy, Sam Bushman.
It was November 3rd, 2016, Eric Trump.
David Duke deserves a bullet.
So anyway, I mean, I'm just saying, every new, there was a big story right before the election.
And David's a great guy.
He's been a friend of mine for many, many years.
In fact, that's one of the things the media so often attacks me for is for having had interview David Duke.
And what I always say, and this is an example I think others should live by, and that is when they say, well, you've interviewed David Duke, I don't say, well, everybody's interviewed David Duke.
You can't hold me accountable for that.
You know, what I say, Paul, is that, no, you're not reporting it right.
Let me make it clear for you.
I haven't just interviewed David Duke.
Anybody can say that.
I'm close personal friends with him.
I want to repeat to you that I'm close personal friends.
He's been a guest in my home.
I've been a guest in his home.
He's friends with my wife, my children.
We all spend time together.
I talk to him.
I said, if you're going to report it, report it accurately.
I want to be clear and for the record that this is the relationship.
So that's what I think.
Never betray a brother.
Never betray a brother.
Stand as men, stand together and move forward and fight.
And I would ask you this.
Well, I guess I should say this.
Donald Trump was right in his meeting with you when he said you shouldn't run for that seat again.
Paul Nalen for president, 2024.
But hey, Paul, before we run out of time and we've got a minute or two left, give us all the contact information.
And I'll tell you, I'm going to be in touch with you.
I know this is going to get a huge response from the audience.
I'm going to be in touch with you.
We're going to do this again as soon as we can arrange it on both of our schedules.
And I mean, within the next couple of weeks, hopefully.
Great.
Because there's so much more I wanted to talk about tonight that we didn't get a chance to, but I don't think it was a wasted minute.
I think everything that we covered was necessary and important, especially for a debut appearance on this particular program.
But give us all the contact information.
People who want to support you, people who want to know more about you, how can they do that?
Sure.
Well, they can go to PaulNealon, Paul-N-E-H-L-E-N.com.
That's my website.
It'll probably take you, I probably still have it forwarded to elect Nealon, but don't worry about that.
You can read all sorts of things there on Facebook at P-N-E-H-L-E-N.
I'm on YouTube at P-N-E-H-L-E-N.
As we all know, I'm not on Twitter right now, although I do have an FEP campaign grinding through the gears of government right now against Twitter.
And we're very hopeful that that gets some traction because they're doing some terrible things to cannabis out there.
And maybe we can talk about that when I come on the show the next time.
But I've been on Dr. Duke's show a number of times.
I consider him a friend.
We've talked on the phone a number of times.
You see what people can do to malign somebody.
They turn you into a caricature.
He's a man, and he's well-read, and he cares about this country.
And he, you know, there's a lot of people like Dr. Duke out there in the world.
None to the level is him, I wouldn't say, but there's a lot of good guys out there.
Well, I'll tell you what, we've talked to one for the last hour.